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Speaker 1: We're back for another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Coors Light. Right here on Giants dot Com,

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Speaker 1: Schmilk Meadow you two four or five on three, hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants chat on Twitter. While we watched a lot of practice,

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Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about guys running around in their pajamas.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about guys running on the pads and helmets

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Speaker 1: on the practice field. Well, tonight, everybody, we get to

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Speaker 1: see our first facts similar of football since two thousand

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Speaker 1: and eighteen. Good afternoon, the first preseason game. This here,

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Speaker 1: He's lands mead on, John Schmilk and Lands. We've been

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Speaker 1: waiting a long time to see how all the stuff

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Speaker 1: we've been seeing on the practice field might translate. And

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Speaker 1: while obviously the first preseason game in the large scheme

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Speaker 1: of things doesn't mean a whole lot, it's still exciting

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Speaker 1: to finally see how that work might pay off against

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Speaker 1: a live opponent. Yeah. Absolutely, especially since there's a relatively

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Speaker 1: young team. John, So I think it great opportunities for

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Speaker 1: a number of guys on the depth chart from top

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Speaker 1: in a different atmosphere. It's good to see players go

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Speaker 1: up against a different opponent, for one, instead of going

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Speaker 1: is the first preseason game, and I get it, the

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Speaker 1: wins and the losses don't necessarily add up too much

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Speaker 1: of anything. But this is about the players tonight. There's

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Speaker 1: about evaluating in conjunction with what they've seen during the

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Speaker 1: course of practice, and I think that based on what

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Speaker 1: we've seen over the course of Giants history, now there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of players that have earned roster spots john

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Speaker 1: as a result of what they've done in the preseason games,

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Speaker 1: whether it be the first game, the second game, the

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Speaker 1: third game, and so forth. So to overlook this, I

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Speaker 1: think would be doing an injustice, I think, to the

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Speaker 1: whole process. But it is going to be refreshing to

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Speaker 1: finally get to see these guys actually in a game atmosphere,

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Speaker 1: and all fans are excited to see the starting players

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Speaker 1: that they haven't seen on the field for a long time.

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Speaker 1: That's not what tonight is about. Tonight's about the other guys.

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Speaker 1: It's about the second stringers, the third stringers, the rookies,

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Speaker 1: the undrafted guys, even the high draft pick guys, to

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Speaker 1: see exactly where they are. These are the games where

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Speaker 1: guys earned spots on the roster, and we've seen stars

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Speaker 1: born in situations like this. Go back to Victor cruz

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Speaker 1: Um another team, go back. You know, no one thought

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was gonna be anything until we had to

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Speaker 1: come in that preseason game I think against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Cowboys have a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And you've seen the time and time again, these preseason games.

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Speaker 1: You can find things out about guys that you don't expect.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's fun about it. You don't know what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. The Giants obviously having a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do this year to become a better football team,

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Speaker 1: and it begins tonight. Tavares Kings another guy that comes

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Speaker 1: to mind who I think has made a name for

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Speaker 1: himself in the preseason. John As we go through the

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Speaker 1: list of some notable players, and you know, when you

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Speaker 1: positions that you could focus on in a game like this,

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Speaker 1: I think the wide receiver respond is maybe somewhere to start,

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Speaker 1: if at all. So the young guys, whether it be

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Speaker 1: Cody Lattimer's, the Benny Fowler's, and the Russell Shepherds. Those

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Speaker 1: games as well as practice. Alonso Russell is another guy

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Speaker 1: Darius Slaying obviously probably not gonna play with the hamstring exactly,

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Speaker 1: and we know Sterling Shepherd already came out and said,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a valid point. The only thing that

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Speaker 1: I think gives them an edge here, John is you

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Speaker 1: So what helps those guys who you just mentioned when

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham was banged up and limited in the latter

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Speaker 1: could argue those players nobody's saying they lit up the

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Speaker 1: box score. But they made plays, whether it be touchdowns

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Speaker 1: this is my personal opinion, John, compared to an Alonzo Russell, Uh,

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Speaker 1: their roster spots a certainly safer than the young guys.

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Speaker 1: Your point being though the young guys are trying to

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Speaker 1: Golden Tate and Darius Slayden, John, that's six right there.

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Speaker 1: We don't even have to factor in any of the

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Speaker 1: absolutely with you, not a lock, but certainly a leg

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Speaker 1: Otherwhere elsewhere, I should say underwear, Wow, that is interesting,

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Speaker 1: I said otherwhere. Well, I was, I was, I was

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Speaker 1: But beyond that lands they have so many injuries at

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Speaker 1: Chad Wheeler's gotta back. Maholk hat a stinger in practice

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Speaker 1: the other day. A. Yeah, we don't know these guys

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Speaker 1: So that is certainly an intriguing player to watch tonight.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Bunch who brought up John, He was with the

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they want to see how far he's come along.

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Speaker 1: the field for the first time. And there are times

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Speaker 1: when early success does portend really good things. Very rarely

428
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Speaker 1: do rookie quarterbacks come out look great and then regress. Now,

429
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Speaker 1: you will see quarterback star poorly and then improve. But

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Speaker 1: if you see Jones come out and his first preseason

431
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Speaker 1: action look really comfortable and look like an NFL quarterback

432
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Speaker 1: right away, that's a dawn good sign. Now, is it

433
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Speaker 1: just positive that something else is going to happen down

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Speaker 1: the road? Of course not. But look, I'm excited to

435
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Speaker 1: see it. I've been watching this kind in practice. I

436
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Speaker 1: watched a full season and him the duke over the

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Speaker 1: course of the spring, getting ready for the draft, and

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Speaker 1: you know, reviewing his tape after they took the kid.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what he does in an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm pumped. I can't wait. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean so am. I I don't know necessarily if

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Speaker 1: I would have huge takeaways over one performance. Not that

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Speaker 1: you were saying that you were, I just talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe looking at it from a bigger perspective. Wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: you're telling me there might be an overreaction on a

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Speaker 1: backpager newspaper tomorrow based on I actually the reason that

447
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Speaker 1: even the state of the media today, I can't believe

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Speaker 1: they would overplay one perform it. Why would they? I mean,

449
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Speaker 1: you can tell me that the battle of the backup

450
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 1: left tackle job is not spicy enough. I should point

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Speaker 1: out that is not a shot at the writer, because

452
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Speaker 1: the writers are gonna write their stories. Look, there's nothing

453
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Speaker 1: people aren't getting excited about Yankees Orioles and in August

454
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Speaker 1: if tomorrow the backpage will be Giants Jets, it's just

455
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Speaker 1: a matter of what it's gonna say correct, depending on,

456
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Speaker 1: of course, how the game develops and what plays out there.

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Speaker 1: But the point is, I've seen games no no worries.

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Speaker 1: I've seen games where quarterbacks have played a good preseason

459
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Speaker 1: game and then it hasn't transferred too much of any

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Speaker 1: So that's why I think everybody should temper their expectations,

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Speaker 1: temper their takeaways. Essentially A case in point Davis Webb,

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Speaker 1: if you remember he went up against the Detroit Lions,

463
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Speaker 1: not last year, I think it was two preseasons ago,

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Speaker 1: John his rookie year, and I thought Davis Webb had

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Speaker 1: a good series or two in that Detroit game that

466
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Speaker 1: was on the road, that was the second preseason gave

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Speaker 1: me play the first prison, to give me a playing

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Speaker 1: He was a disaster, correct, So it was the second

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Speaker 1: season game, all right, So it was a nice bounce

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Speaker 1: back opportunity, right. He looked comfortable, he drove down the field.

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Speaker 1: I believe he finished with a touchdown. Okay, fine, positive, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, you move beyond that, and he

473
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Speaker 1: wound up, you know, ultimately not making the roster. And

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of the factors involved. There wasn't

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Speaker 1: just one preseason game. And I'm not saying Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: is all of a sudden concerned about his roster spot.

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Speaker 1: The bottom line is treated as if it's one game.

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Speaker 1: Be anxious, be excited. You want to see encouraging signs.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but it's not the end all be all.

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Speaker 1: And these four preseason games, by the way, is not

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones a super Bowl? Okay, Daniel Jones when he

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Speaker 1: gets into regular season games, you know, then we could

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Speaker 1: start talking about high expectations. So forth. This is for

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Speaker 1: him to get comfortable John against another defense that he's

485
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Speaker 1: completely unfamiliar with. The timing should be on point, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the execution of the offense. I mean that to

487
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Speaker 1: me is the key components that you want to see

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Speaker 1: him be able to go out and do tonight. Jeff

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Speaker 1: and Rhode Island to you. He's up next on Big

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Speaker 1: Look Kick Off Live. What's up, Jeff? Hey, guys, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing today? Great? Jeff, what's up? Good? Anxious

492
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Speaker 1: for the game tonight. I know everybody will be wanting

493
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Speaker 1: to watch the quarterback, but my focus is going to

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Speaker 1: be on the defense and particularly uh, you know, if

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Speaker 1: they can apply any kind of pressure to the opposing quarterback. Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's important to see if their

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Speaker 1: pass rushers have win one on one. But I will

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Speaker 1: promise you, promise you that the Giants defense is going

499
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Speaker 1: to be very vanilla, because the last thing you want

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Speaker 1: to do is show a team like the Jets. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's gonna be the same in Week

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Speaker 1: two when the Giants play another team they're facing the

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Speaker 1: regular season, the Chicago Bears. They're not going to show

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Speaker 1: those teams anything, so it's gonna be really, really vanilla.

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be so much concerned with the results

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Speaker 1: as I will be. How maybe individual players perform in

507
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Speaker 1: their matchups. If you know where I'm coming from, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I understand exactly. I uh, it's you know pretty much

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Speaker 1: what I was thinking as well, because I always like

510
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Speaker 1: to see watch the kids that were drafted and you

511
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Speaker 1: don't see what they're looking like out there, and now

512
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Speaker 1: they're moving around, you know, and so on and so forth. Um,

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Speaker 1: my bold prediction, My bold prediction would be that someday,

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Speaker 1: perhaps our friend from Maine will have something more than

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Speaker 1: dubious suggestions and solutions for the problems that the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants maybe experience and at any given time, well,

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Speaker 1: I like that bold prediction that may have been the

518
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Speaker 1: best one given out on this program thus far. To

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Speaker 1: pick on anybody, but pick all you want, keep picking,

520
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Speaker 1: keep picking until you get down to the bone, bare bone.

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Speaker 1: I can't be killing a fellow Giants fan. But when

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Speaker 1: somebody calls up and says that, you know, there's them

523
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Speaker 1: in the Browns and the Super Bowl and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have fifty sacks, I'm not getting it. Thank you, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: We have a good day, fellow. Dubious suggest ends and

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Speaker 1: solutions A polite way to put a problem. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was put very very well. Yeah, dubious

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Speaker 1: suggestions and solutions to those problems. Jeff laid out a

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Speaker 1: very elongated euphemism for Charlie and Portland, Maine, because I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I could go that deep in terms

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Speaker 1: of spinning in and a way where maybe you're not

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Speaker 1: necessarily taking too deep of a singer. The word dubious

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Speaker 1: as yes, absolutely on a more serious note, because there's

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Speaker 1: no point of wasting as much time we do on

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Speaker 1: Charlie considering he's probably gonna call anyway, so waste our

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Speaker 1: time here in the early portrait of the program, when

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Speaker 1: Jeff brought up you know, wanting to see the pass rush,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, you know, your response was on point

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Speaker 1: in terms of you want to see if guys could

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Speaker 1: win some individual battles, but team production James Betcher is

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Speaker 1: not going to be very aggressive, let's face it. And

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Speaker 1: here's another thing, and this is not being a debbut

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Speaker 1: downer again, this is perspective. Ottawalle a Jomo. Okay, I'm

544
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Speaker 1: gonna rehash and I'm gonna reminisce on this program name

545
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Speaker 1: from the past, Ottawa Jomo. It for you Giants fans

546
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Speaker 1: who may not recognize the name most of you. I'm

547
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Speaker 1: sure go look at what he did during the preseason

548
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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen, I don't remember. The year, may been

549
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Speaker 1: even slightly earlier, perhaps, and Ojomo made the roster, by

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Speaker 1: the way, okay, and every single week, why isn't a

551
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Speaker 1: Jomo active? Why are we not seeing a Jomo's productivity?

552
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: And a lot of it had to do with his

553
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Speaker 1: work ethic and practice and not earning his way onto

554
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Speaker 1: the forty six that are active. But Jomo had an

555
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Speaker 1: outstanding preseason two thousand and twelves. Yea even earlier. But

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Speaker 1: that's a guy, right, had a really good Preseason's long

557
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Speaker 1: time I will throw out another guy and this is

558
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Speaker 1: the complete opposite end of the spectrum. And you know

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Speaker 1: what I Actually, he made the roster in two thousand twelves.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and thirteen is when he had his

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Speaker 1: big summer. So, okay, thirteen, but we're still removed six

562
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Speaker 1: seasons ago. Man, We're not talking about a player that

563
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Speaker 1: was around the corner. Another guy who was a late

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Speaker 1: addition to the roster performed very well and then ultimately

565
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Speaker 1: did not make the roster. Who is israel A Dona

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Speaker 1: Jane who I thought did enough to maybe take carry

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Speaker 1: Wind spot, and then carry Wind ultimately got that final

568
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Speaker 1: roster spot. So the reason I'm throwing that out there

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Speaker 1: is to say, what a guy does in a preseason game,

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Speaker 1: even if he flashes, is far from locking up a

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Speaker 1: roster spot, or is far from perhaps saying he makes

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Speaker 1: the roster, and then that impact translates over to the

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Speaker 1: regular season to one four five, one three. Back to

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Speaker 1: the phones, What up, Chris and Buffalo? Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Lands and John um Lance. I was listening to Hugh

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Speaker 1: and Jeff yesterday and I know you guys just talked

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Speaker 1: about this, But Charlie, what tackles are out there right now?

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Speaker 1: What are you looking at the need of the Bengals.

579
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: The Bengals just signed Bobby best tackle in the league,

580
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Speaker 1: Turnstyle Heart to a huge contract for the same exact reason.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody out there, and you either have underdeveloped college

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Speaker 1: players that need a lot of time to catch up,

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Speaker 1: or you have players that are so old I shot

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Speaker 1: that putting them out there would be basically the same

585
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: as giving them cardiac arrest. You can't, you can't do it.

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00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: There's nobody out there right now. That's why when injuries happen,

587
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: you're in a very tough predicament. Offensive lineman might be

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Speaker 1: the biggest position of scarcity, specifically offensive tackle in the

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Speaker 1: whole league. Right now, there just aren't a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys out there. Yeah, that's pretty but I mean I

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Speaker 1: just hearing Charlie yesterday going off about that. I just

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Speaker 1: had to call it the only other thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: to put out there in real quick. And I'll let

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Speaker 1: you guys go. Um. I know Sam bial is injured, uh,

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Speaker 1: And I know Courty Valentine's but gets good snaps and

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Speaker 1: he's been looking good. Do you think Corty Valentine has

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Speaker 1: kind of surpassed deal? I know Bill has playing with it.

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Speaker 1: Would you if Bill comes back from his injury, do

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Speaker 1: you think Valentine is now higher on the echelon then

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Speaker 1: Bill would be I'll take it out there. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? I appreciate phone called Chris Well right now.

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00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: I think Balantine is building up confidence amongst the coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, if we had a meaningful game to

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Speaker 1: discuss this weekend. Yeah, I think Balantine probably has jumped

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Speaker 1: ahead of Sam Bille because at the time that Bill

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Speaker 1: has missed I think Balantine to me, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: putting words at Pat Schremer's mouth, John, but Balantine is

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Speaker 1: right now the equivalent of how Schermer looked at Darius

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Speaker 1: Slayden in the spring and how he made the jump

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Speaker 1: from rookie minicamp. If you recall John and then said

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Speaker 1: he's probably the most improved player, Valentine is the most

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Speaker 1: improved player right now based on the production he's putting

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Speaker 1: out in practice. So you know that's not hype, that's

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Speaker 1: actually I test. So based on that, I would say

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Speaker 1: i'd probably pencil him in slightly ahead of Sam Bill

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Speaker 1: if this was an actual meaningful game. Here's how I'll

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Speaker 1: state it. When Bill gets back, I still believe Corey

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Speaker 1: Ballantine will be taking snaps with the two's in practice.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be relegated back to the third team. Now.

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Speaker 1: Might he be taking snaps with the two is with

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Speaker 1: Sam Bill instead of Antonio Hamilton's Maybe would. I'd be

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Speaker 1: shocked if Sam bial is with the threes the first

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Speaker 1: time he's back off the hamstring. No, that wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 1: me either, But given how Balentine's played, I'd be shocked

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Speaker 1: if they would And again, it depends how he plays

626
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Speaker 1: in this game. If he's a disaster in this game,

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Speaker 1: then maybe we have a different conversation. You're only basing

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Speaker 1: it off of practice right now at this point, that's

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Speaker 1: all you could do. If he plays well in the

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Speaker 1: game and Bill gets back and Balentine shows starting to

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Speaker 1: show that he belongs in a game situation, I do

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Speaker 1: not see him getting demotive back to the third team.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it. Yeah, I'm with you, And that's

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Speaker 1: more of a reason why that's a position. If you

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Speaker 1: were to ask me what to watch for one on

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Speaker 1: one battles, look at the corners, and I'm talking about everybody.

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Speaker 1: Look at what they do against unfamiliar wide receivers. Let's

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Speaker 1: see who hangs with the opposition. Let's see who goes

639
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Speaker 1: up and makes a play, maybe an opportunistic play. That's

640
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Speaker 1: what I'm looking for, because I think that's going to

641
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Speaker 1: then determine what the depth chart is moving into next

642
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: week's practice and then following it into the Chicago Bears game.

643
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Speaker 1: Nick is all they out in Colorado. He joined us

644
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: next day. Nick. Hi, how are you doing guys? Well? Great? Nick?

645
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm gonna talk Daniel Jones. First, I could

646
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: be don't mind, Nick, go right ahead, man. So I've

647
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: been watching, you know, since he got drafted at two

648
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: because I was just thinking that, you know, I'm finally

649
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: starting I wasn't happy when they drafted him, but now

650
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: since I've seen him in training camp and practice and stuff,

651
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm finally starting to like become Daniel Jones team. I'm

652
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: just not sure how he's gonna match up against some

653
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: of the offenses that he's gonna be of defenses that

654
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna be based against. Well, Nick, well, Nick, I'll

655
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: say this, I'm happy that you've turned around. But and

656
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: I wrote this in in the in my cover three

657
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: article on giants dot Com too, once we get to

658
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: a game here, no one is going to care one

659
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: iota where he was drafted, what picked the Giants used

660
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: on him, how he's played in practice all. Eventually that's

661
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: going to matters. How he does in games. Now, how

662
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: he does in the first preseason games. Land said before,

663
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: not a big deal is not necessarily going to be

664
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Speaker 1: a telling factor in the type of player he's going

665
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: to be. But all this stuff is great, and I'm

666
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: glad you're more optimistic and by the way. Pat Charmer

667
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: has said this a million times due to the Factory.

668
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: I sent a little frustration from him that he keeps

669
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: getting these questions about Jones because his first answer is always, well,

670
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: let's see him do it in a game. Let's see

671
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: him do it in the game. And I think that's

672
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: where we're at, Okay, perfect well, thank you guys so much,

673
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: thank you, And look, Giant fans that and and there's

674
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: still a group of at there because I see your tweets.

675
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: I might not respond to him, but I see him that.

676
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Or just assuming Daniel Jones is gonna be trash because

677
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: of what these media scouts said before the draft. People

678
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: are assuming this, okay, and that's silly. It's also silly

679
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: to say this guy's our future franchise quarterback and I

680
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: have no doubt about it. Or were some practice videos

681
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: that our buddy Matt Cohen put up on the Giants

682
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: Twitter cats. Both things are equally not maybe not equally silly,

683
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: because at least you're seeing the videos and you're not

684
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: just going by what somebody else told you. But the

685
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: bottom line, folks, is that we're gonna see, We're going

686
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: to see, and I would like I would like, and

687
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: I know this is never gonna happen. It would be

688
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: a great world lands if everyone could go in with

689
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: a blank slate, in an open mind, with no preconceived

690
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: bias or no biases or notions into that first Daniel

691
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: Jones chance, and you know, really let what he does

692
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: instruct what you think of him. I think we all

693
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: know that's not gonna happen. But that's really where we

694
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 1: should be at this point, absolutely, And that's why the

695
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: whole purpose of this conversation is to keep expectations in

696
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: check and not overreact over one game, one series, and

697
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: so forth. But I understand when a player is picked

698
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: that high, and I know this was you know, opposite

699
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: of your point, and I agree with you. Once the

700
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: regular season comes and there's opportunities out there or seasons ahead,

701
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: you know, nobody remembers Tom Brady being a sixth round pick.

702
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: The bottom line is Tom Brady has built his own

703
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: reputation what he's done on the NFL level, and Daniel

704
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: Jones is gonna have to do the same thing, because

705
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: once you get into the league beyond the season, that

706
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: rookie resume doesn't mean much of anything. What you did

707
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: as a senior in college. A junior in college doesn't

708
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: mean anything. So you know, for the critics, I get

709
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: where you're coming from. Yeah, he's gonna have to show it.

710
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: But also for the people that are critics, I think

711
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: you have to understand that he's not gonna be able

712
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: to quiet you if he does go against what you're

713
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: thinking in one game in one night. We're gonna have

714
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Speaker 1: to wait and see onto those circumstances. And the problem

715
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: with today's society is patients is not something that most

716
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: people subscribe to. So that's what's working against Daniel Jones. John.

717
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the truth, the instantaneous gratification, the call

718
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: for that. He can't control that. And I don't care

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Speaker 1: how this preseason plays out, I'm still going to shy

720
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: away from making any judgments until we actually get to

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00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: a meaningful regular season game or the shoulder is placed

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00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: in a position where he now has to take on

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Speaker 1: the offense, he has to guide the offense in a

724
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: meaningful game or whatever it may be. Until he's put

725
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: in that position, there's only so much he could take away.

726
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: And and the point I was kind of making in

727
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: terms of where he was picked was if he turns

728
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: out to be really good. No one's gonna go back

729
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: and say, well, the Jones should have got him at seventeen,

730
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: that that that's not gonna be say they made the

731
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: right decision. I mean you remember, I mean you were

732
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: I think you're hosting Chosen college at this point I graduated.

733
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: I think you were still around where people would call

734
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: up altitude to your college, call and show and be like,

735
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: the Giants gave up too much free line manning. Of course, yeah,

736
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: they Sean Merriman and Nick Katie and all these guys

737
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers that all this stuff and people complaining

738
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: about it. Once you like won the Super Bowls, nobody

739
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: gave it damn anymore. It was all right, great, good job,

740
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: awesome trade guys, terriffic well and not to get off position.

741
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, also Eli stunk his first year

742
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: in the pros. He turned out pretty good. Of course.

743
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: Well that's more of a reason why even after Daniel

744
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: Jones ultimately plays his first few regular season games, we

745
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: may still not know correct where his ceiling is. But

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00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll give you even a more recent example, John, and

747
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: this is not the quarterback position. What was the reaction

748
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: when the Dallas Cowboys gave up a first round pick

749
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: for Mary Cooper at the trade deadline. I know that

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00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the reaction was, what are they thinking.

751
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: I didn't like the movie either. Cooper is not somebody

752
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: that has shown he can consistently deliver. And then you

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00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: look at what Cooper did in the second half of

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00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: the season, and I would think, right now you understand

755
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: maybe where they were coming from. Now, granted, he still

756
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: needs to produce, and we'll see whether or not the

757
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys give him a new contract. I get it, there's

758
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: still time to tell. But once again, the initial reaction

759
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: does not have to be synonymous with the reaction after

760
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: we see some stubs all disappointed within you. I thought

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00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to your favorite quarterback, my favorite quarterback,

762
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I got a lot of favorites Alex Smith. Okay,

763
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: in terms of I mean he was people thought he

764
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: was a bust. They did for years. That's a good one,

765
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: and then he got to the chief he's winning. Well.

766
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: But see my counter to anybody who says he's a

767
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: bust is well, then look at the environment around that.

768
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: But that's my point where you know, and it takes

769
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: a quarterback a while. He had different coordinators that slowed

770
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: down his book brushing and all that sort of stuff,

771
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: and you know, eventually got a good team, right obviously

772
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: like a pretty good players. So anyway, three Scott in

773
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: New Mexico was up next. They Scott, Hi, guys, what

774
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: are you doing today? Question? I don't put a lot

775
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: of stock in preseason games. I always think that players

776
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: actually get their kudos in training camp. But I'm intrigued

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00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: about the Daniel Jones scenario tonight, And for this reason,

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00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm just the conditions tonight probably won't be ideal because

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00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: you'll be missing personnel and he won't have you know,

780
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: a limited amount of time with the tackles, etcetera that

781
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: might play. Do you glean more information about a quarterback,

782
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: especially somebody like Daniel Jones if conditions are not ideal

783
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: in other words, they're adverse, and if he performs well,

784
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: does that give you actually more information about the the

785
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: back because he didn't have his starting receivers because the

786
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: sort of a bilk and excuse how he didn't have

787
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: this or he didn't have that. But if he performs

788
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: as well in adverse conditions, doesn't that give the coaches

789
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: a lot more information about how he's going to perform

790
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: when everything is not ideal, and I was just curious

791
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: what your opinion was on that. It's a good question, Scott.

792
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: I think it really is, and I think you kind

793
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: of hit it on the head with the way you

794
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: asked your question. If he plays well despite things around

795
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: him being poor, then yeah, I think that is a

796
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: really good sign. You learn a lot about the kid.

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00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: But the problem, though, is that if he plays poorly

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00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: and everything's around him is a mess, I don't think

799
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: it's fair to bury him, you know what I mean?

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00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: So I would like to I think, before you worry

801
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: about whether or not he can succeed on their adverse conditions,

802
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: can we see if he can succeed on their good

803
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: conditions first? You know, you know, you know what I mean.

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00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: If this was happening in preseason game number four, after

805
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: I saw him play well on their great conditions in

806
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: the first couple, then yeah, I'd probably be on board

807
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: with what you're saying. But I'd like to give the

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00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: kid a shot with a good offensive line and some

809
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: talented players around him before I see him trying to

810
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: scramble with a bunch of guys around that I have

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: no idea what to what they're doing, which, by the way,

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00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be the case tonight. My

813
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: guess is that they'll figure out a way to get

814
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: him in there with at least some of the starters,

815
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: so they'll get a good feel of you know, maybe

816
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: given some protection. We know Greg Williams will blitz even

817
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: though it's the preseason. You don't want guys breathing down

818
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: his neck. You want to give the starters a chance

819
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: to protect him a little bit. So I do think

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00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: you'll get to see him under pretty decent conditions tonight,

821
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: even if even since we're not gonna see a guy

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00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: like Starling Shepherd. Yeah, they're not gonna throw him to

823
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: the wolves, Scott. I think they're gonna want him to

824
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: play with some of those ideal conditions to see what

825
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: he can do, and then obviously the backups will come

826
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: in little by little. But I don't think Pat Tremer

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00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: has any plans to put Daniel Jones behind you know,

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00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: fourth and fifth string players that are fringe, even practice

829
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: squad guys. I just don't see how that's a wise

830
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 1: game plan for him, as well as the coaching stand which,

831
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: by the way, once you get past your first two

832
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, at this point you're looking at well, to

833
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: a certain degree, you are looking at the offensive tackles

834
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Speaker 1: as third teamers. No, and that's fair, but I guess

835
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it also as a guy like Malcolm Bunch,

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Speaker 1: for example, if they put him out of tackle, they've

837
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: already seen him last season, and it's not as if

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00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: they're throwing him out there with a guy they just

839
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: pulled in off the street. Even though technically Malcolm Bunch

840
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: did recently joined the team, there's at least some familiarity there.

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00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: I guess That's where I'm going is opposed to he

842
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: does out the land of the unknown. He does provide

843
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: good veteran depth. Well, I don't know if it necessarily

844
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: goes so far to give him a veteran title, but yes,

845
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: he does perhaps provide depth. The other thing, in all seriousness,

846
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: as Shmok wants to continue to throw some jokes out

847
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: comedy one on one, and it didn't go over my head.

848
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: I knew where he was the subject. It was funny obviously. Yes,

849
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: getting back to your point, and once again, there is

850
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: this thing difference between even preseason football and college football.

851
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: What you did, Scott, But remember Daniel Jones, the majority

852
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: of his collegiate career has been with adverse conditions. That's

853
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: a really good So is this really anything new? I

854
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying. If they throw them out there

855
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: a little with some backups, considering what he went through

856
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 1: a duke and considering the wide receiving corps, I really

857
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: don't think it's anything new. Hey often too. I mean, dude,

858
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: in all seriousness, when Duke plays Clemson, which happened that

859
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: when he was a junior there, it was reality for him.

860
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: You're basically playing with players that maybe your backups on Clemson,

861
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: maybe their third teams on Clemson, going against clemson S daughters. Now,

862
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones would never say that. I mean, people realize

863
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: that there wasn't one player drafted out of Duke while

864
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was. There's not one. I mean, I can

865
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: go back and count the number of guys can't draft

866
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: out of Clemson the last three years. Just probably close

867
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: to twenty, if not more so. Yeah, I think Lens,

868
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: I don't even think about it that way. You made

869
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: a great point. Oh thank you. He's I know, it's rare,

870
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: he's he's used to play. I don't know the conditions.

871
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: One question also I have tonight. If c J. Con

872
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: really shines, Uh, does that is that the death knell

873
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: for Scott Simonson? Or do you think because they have

874
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Red Ellison to have an ingram? I was just curious

875
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: what your opinion would be. Uh. I don't know where

876
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: the depth charges on those two guys, But in regards

877
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: to how they perform, would c J. Conrad be the

878
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: replacement or what is there a possibility would keep both?

879
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, I appreciate the call. I think there's a

880
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: chance they keep, no problem. Thanks for calling a good

881
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: excellent points today. Um, I think there's a chance they keep.

882
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: For you gotta see, like Lance at early in the show,

883
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: what they do with the fullback and if that impacts

884
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: it at all. But I think there's a scenario where

885
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: Simons and Conrad could both be on the team in theory.

886
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, I could easily see them keeping for tight ends.

887
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: And I think it also depends on the versatility they

888
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: see out of that group, because remember Rett Ellison, We've

889
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: talked about this in the past. John, you could tend

890
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: technically put him in at fullback if you needed to,

891
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: if they wanted to throw him in there, you can

892
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: move him around. He's got that ability, that skill set.

893
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: So that may be more of a reason why they

894
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: would want to keep four tight ends. If they feel

895
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: that they're gonna put one or two of these tight

896
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: ends in different positions or play Ingram out wide and

897
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: toy with him in that regard, then maybe you want

898
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: a truer tight end to have to put him in

899
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: the game simultaneously. So four, I do not think it's

900
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: a stretch at all when it comes to the tight

901
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: end position. To five one, three, I thought Scott was

902
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: going to one. Okay, I forgot that we had a

903
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: goodbye to one, but then I did, and so I

904
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: moved on anyway. I glad that we're putting two and

905
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: two together. Final caller of the show. It's along two days. Lens,

906
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Mike and Florida will wrap us up today and then

907
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: I'll take a couple of tweets before we say goodbye.

908
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: What's up? Like, thank guys, how are you doing? Just

909
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: a couple of quick points, Um, I'm really excited tonight

910
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: about watching the Young DBS. I think that's where might

911
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: is it going? To be. I just want to see

912
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: where we're at with those guys. UM, really, Corey down

913
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: tie con forward to watching him play. Um one day,

914
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: is this Joernaris Jenkins last uh year on his contract?

915
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Now he is, well, he has one more left after

916
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: this season. But remember it's a situation that wealth of

917
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: information for these young guys. It's a situation though, where

918
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: there's not a ton of guarantee money left on that contract, Mike,

919
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: So if the Giants wanted to not bring him back

920
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: next year, it could be a decision they decided to make.

921
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: But he is under contract for one more year. Al right, great.

922
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: And the other point, Um, we're talking about what you

923
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: guys were talking about wide receivers before and at three

924
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: you were naming Cody Latimer, Russell Sheppard and and polish

925
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: what I say, Ben Faller. Okay, those are three key

926
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: team also. So, UM, I think it's getting real hard

927
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: for you for the Reggie Whites and the Um the

928
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: um the other guys to to kind of, you know,

929
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: get in there, maybe for the first four games because

930
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be gone. Um maybe hopefully not. But uh,

931
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: those guys are core special teams guys. I you know,

932
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: I give them the advantage there. Well, I agree with you.

933
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: I think that's a really fair point, Mike. And and

934
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's something that John and I didn't emphasize off

935
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: the top when we were talking about wide receivers. But

936
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: another reason you're right why Lattimer, Shepherd and Fowler have

937
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: an advantage over some of those unproven guys is, Yeah,

938
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: it's not just because they can be reliable to fill

939
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: in and also produce. It's because you're right they play

940
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: special teams. That Latimer did that during the majority of

941
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: his tenure in Denver. If you look at his offensive snaps,

942
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: they were limited Fouler to a certain degree. And Russell

943
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: Shepherd has been a key Corps special team or no

944
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: matter what team he has been on. So yeah, Alex

945
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: Wesley and some of these other younger guys are gonna

946
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: have to prove not only can they go out there

947
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: run routes, catch passes, but also you're right that they

948
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: can go out and cover or maybe b key contributors

949
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: the return game. I think that's a very valid point. Yeah,

950
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: And let's one quick point um that Russell Shephard miked

951
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: up the other the other day that that boy is

952
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: funny that practice systical I have around. I think his

953
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: energy is terrific for for for that team. I appreciate

954
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: the call him my friend. Thanks Mike, take care. Shepherd

955
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: really is one of the vocal leaders, especially on the

956
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball well, and that's one of

957
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: the reasons why Dave Gentleman wanted to bring him in.

958
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: Remember Gentleman knows him from the Carolina days, so I

959
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: mean he understands you bringing a guy like that it's

960
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: a good locker room presents a high energy guy who's

961
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: gonna keep things loose. It's time for tweets, giants. You

962
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: got some good ones coming in here. Clayton Harding at

963
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: Clayton Harden fourteen. I think Conrad's already on the fifty three.

964
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: But I'm really hoping we cut or trade Ellison, not Simmons,

965
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: and we need the cap space at least for injury purposes.

966
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: Ellison savings are much greater than Simonson's. Clayton, there's no

967
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: chance that's happening. They really value what read Ellison brings

968
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: us a football player in your twelve personnel. He can catch,

969
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: He's one of the better blocking tight ends in the league.

970
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: He will help your running game. He's not the first

971
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: person that's mentioned, you know, want to move on from

972
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: right Ellison? Why do they need the cap space exactly?

973
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: I would rather renegotiate someone else's deal that is a

974
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: long term deal. Since they have so much space last year,

975
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: you can push, you know, kick the kick the can

976
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: down and run a little bit. I don't want to

977
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: let go of one of my better football players in

978
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Red Ellison, and no, thank you pass well. The reason

979
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: why they need the cap spaces because there's a number

980
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: of unsigned tackles right now that they should eventually in

981
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: the coming days go out and sign now. He points

982
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: out that it will be in case as an injury

983
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: during the season, you spring somebody in. And I I

984
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 1: get that need money for that, but I think you're

985
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: just opening a hole if you let go of Ellison.

986
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna trust C. J. Conradt to step

987
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: in and be a starter in year one. Is an

988
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: untracted for Asian out of a small school. I don't

989
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't can tuck. He's not a small school, but

990
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: it's a smaller football school. Well, he's an unproven player though,

991
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to label him. John

992
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: Redd Ellis and has been out there. He's done that,

993
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: so I think they value that also, as I brought

994
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: up earlier when Scott, the earlier carler was talking about

995
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: four tight ends, I said, Red can be moved around.

996
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: And remember one of the things Pat Schremer has said,

997
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: if we're gonna have a tight end slash fullback on

998
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: the roster, he'd better be a reliable receiver, because if

999
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna put him on the field, we want to

1000
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: make sure that the defense has to recognize he could

1001
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: run a route, he could go out into the flat,

1002
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: and he could become a threat if they know Red

1003
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: Ellison's out there, he can't catch, if his life depended

1004
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: on it, then you don't become as an unpredictable offense

1005
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: as you should be. A J. Marshall, Paul Perkins hasn't

1006
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: played in two years. Can't wait to see what he

1007
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: does out there tonight. My prediction is he's gonna lead

1008
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: the team in rushing yards. This is the big preseason

1009
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: with Paul Parkins. He's been here for two years, miss

1010
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: last year with that torn peck, and he's gonna get

1011
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: an opportunities to carry the football. You know, maybe he

1012
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: can challenge from them or two running back spotty with

1013
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: Wayne Golman. But worst comes to worst, he's battling for that,

1014
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, third and final running back spot with Rod Smith,

1015
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: John Hilliman, the undrafted rookie free agent, and he'll have

1016
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do at last. He's gotta show he

1017
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: can catch it, like you just said. And he also

1018
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: has to play special teams something we haven't seen a

1019
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: lot of Paul Perkins. Can he be a factor in

1020
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: special teams coverage units the way a guy like Rod

1021
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: Smith is, who's a much more versatile player. And by

1022
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: the way, rod Smith also played fullback early in his career. John,

1023
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: So as we try to unravel all of these competitions,

1024
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: you know, those things can sometimes help solidify roster spot.

1025
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: But I'm an agreement. Paul Perkins is a huge preseason

1026
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: for him. It's a huge camp, whatever you want to

1027
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: label it. But I will say this, and I've brought

1028
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: this up on the program before, the fact that he

1029
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: remained a part of the team and they brought him

1030
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: back then when they did not have to, I think

1031
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: says a lot about what the coaching staff use him

1032
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: and the fact that when healthy, what he can contribute,

1033
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: So you can't dismiss that. You can't overlook that. But

1034
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: Perkins his coming out party. I always bring this up

1035
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: John against the Cleveland Browns and two thousand sixteen and

1036
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins who has gone back and forth with the

1037
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: Patriots and the Browns. The linebacker for Cleveland at the time,

1038
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: he blitz his up the middle. Paul Perkins steps right

1039
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: in and protects the line manning and that was his

1040
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: moment where they said, well, you know what, we could

1041
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: put Perkins in there on a third down situation. We

1042
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: can trust him. He's got to also prove that he

1043
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: can continue to do that. Pick up the blitz into

1044
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: your point contribute On Specialty Final tweeter the show before

1045
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: he's a goodbye and we promo what's coming up later

1046
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: on today with the Giants and Jets. Anthony Underscore Rivardo.

1047
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to watch Daniel Jones played tonight, but

1048
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: I think I'm just as excited to see Alonzo Russell

1049
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: play alongside of him. He's had a real strong camp.

1050
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: I think many fans are slipping on him. Hopefully he

1051
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: proves that tonight. Well, he's different. He's six four, he's

1052
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: almost two twenty. He's a bigger guy. He's not a burner,

1053
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: but he's been a lot more consistent in camp this

1054
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: year in terms of catching the football, running routes, things

1055
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: of that nature. And he's probably been Daniel Jones favorite

1056
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver with that second group once see all the

1057
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: injuries kind of pushed a lot of the traditional backups

1058
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: into that first first unit. So, yeah, I think Alonso

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Speaker 1: Russell has got a shot here. He's a as a

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Speaker 1: unique body type that nobody else on the roster has

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Speaker 1: and this is a big preseason for him if he

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Speaker 1: can figure out a way along those other young guys

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, to earn their way into back end roster spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what Russell's advantages compared to the rest of the group.

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Speaker 1: It's his size. Because if the Giants as a coaching stand,

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Speaker 1: if they're looking across the roster a wide receiver john

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Speaker 1: and they say, you know, can we use somebody who

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Speaker 1: brings something a little bit different to the table, a

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Speaker 1: red zone thread, A big bodied wide receiver could go

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Speaker 1: up and catch those fifty fifty balls. He can offer that.

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Speaker 1: The other guys we named cannot offer that. Even some

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Speaker 1: of the veterans can't necessarily offer that, So if he

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Speaker 1: shows consistency, that to me, if you were to ask

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Speaker 1: me right now to assess of the young guys who

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Speaker 1: can push for maybe that six spot, I would probably

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Speaker 1: lean towards Alonzo Russell. Also, he's also been around longer

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Speaker 1: than the league. That's another reason. And then the other

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Speaker 1: factor being that if Golden Tate suspension is upheld, remember

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Speaker 1: he doesn't count against the fifty three man roster, so

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Speaker 1: you can keep an extra wide receiver as a result,

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Speaker 1: and that's where maybe the opportunity arises for somebody. Look,

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Speaker 1: I believe the way that rule works though, Tate has

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Speaker 1: to be on the initial show fifty three and then

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Speaker 1: you add afterwards. Correct, that is correct. Yes, that's a

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Speaker 1: fair point. But I guess the Giants could also look

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Speaker 1: at it. If they feel as if that guy is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be claimed that they could always cut them

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Speaker 1: and bring them back those circumstances if they want, Or

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Speaker 1: you can keep the six wide receiver right away and

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Speaker 1: cut somebody else in a different position, someone else somewhere

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Speaker 1: else afterwards, however you want to handle. It's fine, al right, guys,

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Speaker 1: to hear Paul Datino called the game. And when I

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Speaker 1: tell you he's excited, it would be the understatement of

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Speaker 1: the century. I might murder him before the game begins.

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