Speaker 1: What's a family. It's your girl to Mika D.
Speaker 2: Mallory, and it's your boy my son in general, and.
Speaker 1: We are your hostess street politicians.
Speaker 3: The places and politics.
Speaker 1: I don't even hear any sirens.
Speaker 2: Listen, I do.
Speaker 1: The new the New Zoom is.
Speaker 3: Like it's one thing about COVID and the pandemic and
Speaker 3: the zoom life.
Speaker 1: And all of that is that people were not so
Speaker 1: perfect anymore.
Speaker 3: Okay, so when you go to work, everything was quiet,
Speaker 3: called no disturbance, this and that. Then it became stuff
Speaker 3: happening in the house. Kids running by, the people with
Speaker 3: their the bottom short, no pants on, just having the
Speaker 3: shirt they got caught, Folks falling to sleep on the zoom.
Speaker 3: Like everything you could think of happened. And it's even
Speaker 3: to the point where me, I don't even try perfection
Speaker 3: thing anymore. It's like, sorry, I tell y'all here. I
Speaker 3: was doing a panel a couple of like days ago,
Speaker 3: and the folks just decided, I promise you all morning
Speaker 3: there was nothing so quiet around my house. Soon as
Speaker 3: the panels started, they start drilling, not even like a
Speaker 3: little bit of knocking with nails. They start like like
Speaker 3: a damn whatever those things are called. I was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I mean what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're trying to say people need to go back
Speaker 4: to work. You know, they want people out of the house.
Speaker 4: Ain't it ain't working. The house ain't working, the house,
Speaker 4: my house ain't working. They want you to bring your
Speaker 4: ass back to the offices, go to the spaces where
Speaker 4: work was being carried out.
Speaker 3: You know, it depends on who you ask, because there's
Speaker 3: some come it needs to have found that the expenses
Speaker 3: is better then, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyway, do you see.
Speaker 3: How I have two my eyebrows are on two different
Speaker 3: sides of my face.
Speaker 1: So this is a this is a thing.
Speaker 3: That I'm oh, this has been I struggle with it ever.
Speaker 2: Since you came on here. It's been something.
Speaker 1: But listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 3: The people in the comment section, the people in the
Speaker 3: comment section on my page, especially when I do lives.
Speaker 1: They say it. They they'd be.
Speaker 3: Like, why your eyebrows on two different levels. They'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: your makeup artists didn't get your eyebrows right. But it's
Speaker 3: not that. You know, my makeup artist she's one of
Speaker 3: the best. She does an amazing job. It's not that
Speaker 3: it's that my face literally has like a drop on
Speaker 3: one side.
Speaker 1: So I've been struggling with.
Speaker 3: Whether or not I'm going to get botox because or
Speaker 3: just leave it alone and just be lopsided looking.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna be lopside looking. So this is
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 3: And as I'm talking to you, I actually see how lopsided.
Speaker 1: My face is.
Speaker 3: I mean, what like that was a vulnerable moment and
Speaker 3: you just like brushed it off.
Speaker 4: Well, you started the whole show with vulnerable moments. Everything
Speaker 4: is a vulnerable moment. This ain't right, This ain't right,
Speaker 4: this is wrong, this is right, Mercy.
Speaker 3: The other part of these this technology is that it
Speaker 3: becomes a mirror, especially for women, so we get a
Speaker 3: chance to see what we look like, and I don't
Speaker 3: have I mean, listen, I'm telling you my face is lopsided.
Speaker 3: And since we're on the topic, I have one more issue,
Speaker 3: and I'm really I'm gonna make it my thought of
Speaker 3: the day today. Lately, I've been talking about why folks
Speaker 3: don't understand the need for pockets and clothes, and my
Speaker 3: whole social media I can post about anything. We're about
Speaker 3: to go shut down the streets. Daniel camera we're gonna
Speaker 3: stop him. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that.
Speaker 3: I get very good response.
Speaker 1: You know that my people engage with me on social media.
Speaker 3: But when I post about there being no pockets and clothes,
Speaker 3: how we want to we want quality clothing and not
Speaker 3: cheap shirts for fifteen hundred dollars and five hundred dollars
Speaker 3: tank tops, and I post that, you would think that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, and you would. You would?
Speaker 3: You just see in the comments section there's five hundred
Speaker 3: people that have something.
Speaker 1: Because they know. So my thought of the day today,
Speaker 1: Why do.
Speaker 3: Companies discontinue products that people love? I don't understand that
Speaker 3: for the life of me.
Speaker 1: What is wrong?
Speaker 3: Why is it that you know this is a sold
Speaker 3: out product, people keep buying it, people love it, it
Speaker 3: seems to be working, and the next thing you know,
Speaker 3: they're on to some other thing and the product is discontinued.
Speaker 3: I don't get it, and so I know it's not mine.
Speaker 3: I don't get it. But that's my thought of the
Speaker 3: day that I'm struggling with trying to understand. I tried
Speaker 3: to order something today that I use regularly, and they
Speaker 3: were like, oh yeah, no, we don't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: What but for five years, for five years, I've been
Speaker 3: using the same thing. And I know I'm not the
Speaker 3: only one because sometimes when I go to buy it,
Speaker 3: it's sold out for a minute, they have to bring
Speaker 3: it back and they are discontinuating. And then you know,
Speaker 3: they had the audacity to say to me, we're gonna
Speaker 3: send you some pictures of some other stuff that you
Speaker 3: should get. Look, I don't want that's the thing.
Speaker 4: The stuff, Oh my lord, in different times, and that's
Speaker 4: that's just a normal thing. It's like, it's like we're
Speaker 4: in times where people try to force you things, right,
Speaker 4: they try to force you ship that you don't even
Speaker 4: like and take away the ship that you like, and
Speaker 4: you're like, no, this was fine. And it's just it's
Speaker 4: like even even in sports, right, it's players that's good players,
Speaker 4: and what they do is they diminished to play it
Speaker 4: because they feel like, okay, we want to play it
Speaker 4: out of here, right, we don't want to play it
Speaker 4: no more. You know, the players still got about five
Speaker 4: six good years in them, but we're moving in a
Speaker 4: different direction. We want to introduce new players to you.
Speaker 4: We want to get these players out of the childe.
Speaker 4: So that's what happens. And it's just like even with
Speaker 4: TV shows, like your favorite TV show, they be like, okay,
Speaker 4: we're ending.
Speaker 2: It's like the fuck you ended. It's the number one
Speaker 2: TV show in the world, the number one show. Why
Speaker 2: we have to do.
Speaker 1: With people's attitudes moods. They don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 4: That's what happened. And I think that's that's another thing
Speaker 4: probably happens too. I think a lot of these brands
Speaker 4: get so successful and they feel like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I don't want the hustle or bustle what it takes
Speaker 4: to keep creating and doing it, so they stop it.
Speaker 4: They discontinue it, and they live off, you know, the
Speaker 4: billions of dollars that are made off of us.
Speaker 2: And then they're like, you know, I don't have I
Speaker 2: don't got to do it no more.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's the reason, because they still
Speaker 3: who they are. Mac is still a Mac, and they
Speaker 3: still somehow or another are starting to like their product
Speaker 3: line is starting to change. Certain companies they're start they're
Speaker 3: just it's just not the same, right, so, and they're
Speaker 3: still in business.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 2: There doesn't.
Speaker 4: I think what they think is exclusivity. It's just like
Speaker 4: you know, they like, Okay, this is one of our
Speaker 4: biggest sellers. If we stop it, we discontinue it. When
Speaker 4: we want to re into the market. The words coume
Speaker 4: of words that we say, yeah, we're bringing this back.
Speaker 2: We know that.
Speaker 3: I think they just be experimenting. But like I don't
Speaker 3: like it. I'm just saying I don't like it. So anyway,
Speaker 3: let's get into some other news. Because my thought of
Speaker 3: the day is very personal. It's very much in line
Speaker 3: with the fact that my eyebrowser on two different levels
Speaker 3: and I'm lopsided. That's happened. That's something I noticed today.
Speaker 3: And the middle of the park in my head is
Speaker 3: not actually in the middle. It's off centered and it's
Speaker 3: very right.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: See this is this is what you're doing right now
Speaker 4: is disingenuous because you and to this part that you
Speaker 4: have right now is intentionally not centered. But that's Look,
Speaker 4: look what I'm trying to say is this no, no, no,
Speaker 4: because I'm trying to tell you that I don't agree
Speaker 4: with which your original point. So people are looking at
Speaker 4: this right now, they're gonna say, oh, yeah, that's not
Speaker 4: in the center.
Speaker 1: Now, if you had a yeah, the other one isn't either.
Speaker 4: That what I'm saying it is, So I would like
Speaker 4: for you to at least let the people see so
Speaker 4: I could see if I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: I want to do it.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, no, that's not what I said.
Speaker 1: That's not what I said. I didn't say whether it's
Speaker 1: centered or not.
Speaker 3: Today I said the middle part of my head is
Speaker 3: off centered.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's just my reality. After all, on top.
Speaker 3: Of my head here everywhere, it's off centered. And therefore
Speaker 3: I struggle with finding the middle of my head. So
Speaker 3: I just happened to come today and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: whoo today today.
Speaker 1: But there are other things going on in the world.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: First of all, we're now, as you all know, we
Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. We're filming days before
Speaker 3: the release, so the release of this episode will be
Speaker 3: in a few days. But right now, the submarine and
Speaker 3: the folks down there that went to the bottom of
Speaker 3: the water too, they wanted to go see the Titanic,
Speaker 3: and you know, obviously the Titanic has sunk and sunk
Speaker 3: and sunk and sunk and sunk or sank and sank
Speaker 3: and sank and sank, and it's at the bottom of
Speaker 3: the damn ocean somewhere god knows where.
Speaker 1: That is just wreckage basically, So.
Speaker 3: These folks wanted to go see it, and they also
Speaker 3: something happened, and hopefully by the time this airs, there'll
Speaker 3: be more information about what happened. It could have been
Speaker 3: a fired, it could have been hurt, all these different scenarios,
Speaker 3: but the submarine is not in sight. They thought they
Speaker 3: heard banging, or they did hear banging, because multiple agencies
Speaker 3: and their sound listening systems or whatever heard banging over
Speaker 3: and over every thirty minutes increments of it, which seemed
Speaker 3: like it was some type of communication to at this
Speaker 3: point have said that they ran out of oxygen based
Speaker 3: upon the normal hours of ninety six hours to maintain
Speaker 3: oxygen is gone and so the whole like everybody, Japan
Speaker 3: was sending some equipment that goes deep down in the water.
Speaker 3: The obviously the coast guard is out there managing all
Speaker 3: of the stuff. They said that the search area was
Speaker 3: as large as Connecticut and which for people who may
Speaker 3: three I didn't know that, Okay.
Speaker 2: Three Connecticuts, not just one.
Speaker 3: Oh I thought it said one. But okay, So and
Speaker 3: if you're listening, you're like, what's Connecticut? But you should
Speaker 3: know it's a state, so you know, that's a big state.
Speaker 3: But I do feel like we as people, most humans,
Speaker 3: and especially black folks, we're so sensitive about anything that
Speaker 3: happens to anybody. It doesn't matter what they've done to us,
Speaker 3: doesn't matter anything. We still have a level of sensitivity
Speaker 3: for people and then being harmed. And I feel like
Speaker 3: in this situation, so many of us, our friends, you know,
Speaker 3: you and I've discussed people are really struggling with this.
Speaker 1: They really are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's really a tragic situation, man.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I just think about just the scenario in itself, being
Speaker 4: in some two under the water, knowing that that there's
Speaker 4: amount of time that you have before you run out
Speaker 4: of air. It has to be in itself as traumatized.
Speaker 4: I think it's probably some people that didn't even make
Speaker 4: it to run out of it. It's probably the people
Speaker 4: that with so much level of trauma in shock, you know,
Speaker 4: that probably went into cardiac arrest.
Speaker 2: Like that shit is a thing. That's that's a real
Speaker 2: that's a real thing.
Speaker 4: So, you know, I think about that like a lot
Speaker 4: of people, like I always dread like being buried alive
Speaker 4: and shit like that, Like those things are things that
Speaker 4: I know our biggest fears for people. I remember you
Speaker 4: said things like that, that's one of your big fears.
Speaker 4: So I think most of us are sensitive to really
Speaker 4: just thinking about the dynamics of what that is. And
Speaker 4: then when you know a man and his son is
Speaker 4: down there, young boy twenty two years old, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm perplexed. I'm sad, you know, because the likelihood
Speaker 4: of them actually surviving at this point is very low,
Speaker 4: you know, but God can do amazing things.
Speaker 2: But I'm perplexed as to.
Speaker 4: Why, you know, like I'm you know, certain things I
Speaker 4: kind of get, but I don't understand how and why
Speaker 4: why would you sign waivers? They talking about pretty much
Speaker 4: the waivers waived everything that you had, every right you had,
Speaker 4: like you couldn't really suit them for anything. You pray
Speaker 4: basically just said, look, hey, you rolling the dice, you know,
Speaker 4: And I don't know why someone would roll the dice
Speaker 4: with their lives and their children and their children's lives.
Speaker 4: It just taking a trip that was ill advised. You know,
Speaker 4: is if somebody has to sign away all those things,
Speaker 4: that means it's not really that safe.
Speaker 2: And they know it's not that safe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's the call caascity for me. I
Speaker 3: have to be honest. And I know people will say
Speaker 3: this is not a raised thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah it Actually you ain't see one black person there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's other Well, first of all, it was a white.
Speaker 3: Man who made the decision to put this together, and
Speaker 3: he well the company. You know, I'm just listening to
Speaker 3: the news as I do. I listened to every news station,
Speaker 3: including sometimes Fox News, and I just let it run
Speaker 3: in the background as I'm doing whatever in my house
Speaker 3: and moving around or going wherever I'm going. So one
Speaker 3: of the things I kept hearing looping around was that
Speaker 3: the owner said this wasn't the core of the business.
Speaker 3: They did it because they were trying to raise money
Speaker 3: to do other things with the business. So this area
Speaker 3: and there have been other employees who said they didn't
Speaker 3: think it was a good idea. They told them they
Speaker 3: didn't think it was a good idea, They raised safety concerns,
Speaker 3: and still this guy decided to get these people together
Speaker 3: and take this ship down into wherever it is or
Speaker 3: submarine whatever you know, however you describe it, and it's
Speaker 3: just really no, it's bad. And the reason why I
Speaker 3: say it's the caucacity of it all is because I
Speaker 3: don't know too many black people that are even gonna
Speaker 3: try to come up with something like this, let alone
Speaker 3: more black folks that's going to join them and go
Speaker 3: down there. I just don't know many. That's one and
Speaker 3: two the type of search efforts and the money that
Speaker 3: is in the water right now and in the sky,
Speaker 3: because they say you can hear things in the ocean
Speaker 3: from overlooming machinery and equipment and all of that. We
Speaker 3: all are getting a lesson if you're watching the news
Speaker 3: in how this type of like.
Speaker 1: Water search works. And so I feel like.
Speaker 3: The way the money that is being spent to find
Speaker 3: these people in fact applies posted. Can y'all please look
Speaker 3: for these missing children with the same intensity. And so
Speaker 3: a lot of people feel like we're always talking about
Speaker 3: race or we're always talking about classism, but it has
Speaker 3: to be said because there is a disparity.
Speaker 1: There's a disparity when we have a.
Speaker 3: Situation where you can see how much they're doing to
Speaker 3: find these people and yet somebody could go missing today
Speaker 3: or tomorrow, people, sex, traffic, all types of stuff, and
Speaker 3: it's not the same energy. So I think I agree
Speaker 3: that keep the same energy off the water, on the water,
Speaker 3: in the water, under the water around town, in the hood,
Speaker 3: keep the same energy, use the resources. Not just for
Speaker 3: the white people that went to the bottom of the
Speaker 3: ocean on some elective stuff. They chose to do that. Please,
Speaker 3: there are people out here who are missing, more harms
Speaker 3: or that need help and they did.
Speaker 1: Not choose to be in those situations.
Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right, man.
Speaker 4: So my prayers go out to the families you know,
Speaker 4: of those things, and it also goes out to the
Speaker 4: families of, like you said, those who have been missing,
Speaker 4: you know, all kids who've been missing for years that
Speaker 4: haven't gotten the same level of you know, concern, you know,
Speaker 4: because for whatever reason, they don't believe it's that valuable.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you know what, there was a video.
Speaker 3: I watched it a few days ago, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go pull it up and hopefully we can put it
Speaker 3: in this clip. I forget which state it's from, but
Speaker 3: all these young people have gone missing in X amount
Speaker 3: of time, So it was like over the last year
Speaker 3: or so, all these people have gone missing. It was
Speaker 3: a bunch of young people. And the reporter says, however,
Speaker 3: the sheriff for the police basically in the town, they
Speaker 3: don't want people to be alarmed because even though they
Speaker 3: said they didn't have most of the pictures, most of
Speaker 3: the faces, they don't even have.
Speaker 1: They couldn't even put their pictures up.
Speaker 3: They was running it, running in and it was like
Speaker 3: lots and lots of young people. They said, while we
Speaker 3: make we don't have all the pictures and all of that.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. Most of the people are runaways.
Speaker 3: How do you if you don't even have the picture,
Speaker 3: how do you know that they are runaways? And I
Speaker 3: said that is with a dog whistle or what you
Speaker 3: call it, aka black and brown, that's what that means.
Speaker 3: It means they black and brown. They've already decided moving
Speaker 3: on age ow aj Owens was shot by her neighbor
Speaker 3: after the neighbor was menacing her children. In fact, the
Speaker 3: neighbor threw skates at the children, rollerblades at the children
Speaker 3: for playing in.
Speaker 1: A nearby.
Speaker 3: Open field that is common area for everybody in their community.
Speaker 3: But this woman, Susan Larenz. She is one of those
Speaker 3: Karens that believes that the field and every damn thing
Speaker 3: else she owns it, and nobody could do anything unless
Speaker 3: she sells them that they can. Several reports of people
Speaker 3: are saying from the community that this happens frequently and
Speaker 3: that she basically is constantly harassing children. She has had
Speaker 3: an encounter in the past with aj Owens over her children.
Speaker 3: And on this particular day, this is in Okalla, Florida,
Speaker 3: for people who may not know most of you know
Speaker 3: about it, but they're in Ocala, Florida, and the young
Speaker 3: man AJ's son left his tablet outside and he was
Speaker 3: going back to look for it after all the kids
Speaker 3: have been called in to go homes end of the
Speaker 3: play day and he was looking for his tablet. When
Speaker 3: he went back to the area, Susan Lorenz was outside
Speaker 3: with the tablet in his hand. He asked her to
Speaker 3: give him the tablet back.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't.
Speaker 3: They went back and forth. She threw skates at him
Speaker 3: and hit the young man somewhere on his body, and
Speaker 3: then she told him you can go and get your
Speaker 3: mother and tell your mother and bring your mother back
Speaker 3: or whatever. So he went and got his mother. AJ
Speaker 3: goes back. She knocks on the door, telling the lady basically,
Speaker 3: you know, like, what the hell is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Why do you keep messing with my son? I mean,
Speaker 3: obviously we were in theater, know what she said. But
Speaker 3: I'm just going by what I assumed, because I know
Speaker 3: what I would have been saying. And I don't know
Speaker 3: whether or not she was saying it the way I
Speaker 3: would have been saying it, because I know what I
Speaker 3: would have been doing, acting like somebody whose child just
Speaker 3: got hit by a woman that I already have told
Speaker 3: you ten five times stop messing with my children, and
Speaker 3: you don't stop. So now I'm coming to your house
Speaker 3: to let you know that you got a problem with
Speaker 3: my kids, you need to have the problem with me,
Speaker 3: right So that's a natural thing. And again nobody said.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what the words were that she said.
Speaker 3: I'm just filling in because I don't want anybody to
Speaker 3: think that we somehow are sitting here like we dumb
Speaker 3: and don't know that she didn't go over there.
Speaker 1: And go hi, miss Susan. No, you think you could
Speaker 1: know she's a black woman.
Speaker 3: I'm sure she went to defend her children, However, she
Speaker 3: had no intention of going over there to kill the
Speaker 3: lady because she didn't bring a gun or weapon or
Speaker 3: anything with her. The woman who was inside of her
Speaker 3: house with a bolt lock on shot through the door
Speaker 3: and killed aj Owens. Now here's a problem with these
Speaker 3: this thing. So first of all, let me just make
Speaker 3: sure I say this so I don't forget on July.
Speaker 1: No, this is June.
Speaker 3: On June thirtieth, On June thirtieth, the state's attorney from
Speaker 3: Akyle of Florida, who was responsible for trying this case
Speaker 3: and getting justice for aj Owen's family, right, he will
Speaker 3: announce whether or not the charges will.
Speaker 1: Be increased from manslaughter to murder.
Speaker 3: Now, remember they let out go home based upon stand
Speaker 3: your ground, the standard ground law, and her claim of
Speaker 3: self defense. So they let her go home after they
Speaker 3: questioned her for a while. Then they had to bring
Speaker 3: up back because the whole everybody, all of America and
Speaker 3: probably some other countries combined, went crazy about the situation
Speaker 3: her family. They did everything they need to do. Shout
Speaker 3: out to A Takima who has been one of the
Speaker 3: organizers and also our girl Christy Henderson. They have been
Speaker 3: organizing all the efforts and keeping people engaged in this.
Speaker 3: You had celebrities, you had everybody, common man to the whatever,
Speaker 3: to the most far land away saying put that so
Speaker 3: and so in jail, lock up, and so she was arrested.
Speaker 1: Now this is why we're talking about this.
Speaker 3: So what I'm saying about increasing the charges for manslaughter
Speaker 3: because manslaughter was given to her at one point. But
Speaker 3: there is more information that has come forward, and it's
Speaker 3: based upon a fifteen page maybe more, maybe two or
Speaker 3: three pages less arrest record. So it is the report
Speaker 3: from the investigating officer who's also I guess he was
Speaker 3: there to arrest her the second time. I don't really
Speaker 3: know all of that, but I know he got a
Speaker 3: report and it is a full account from the beginning
Speaker 3: until the end of everything that happened the first time
Speaker 3: she was arrested. Second time was she said she let
Speaker 3: them see her phone to look at the iCloud for
Speaker 3: the camera footage, all of that. Now, here's important details.
Speaker 3: Number one, I mean, these are things that stood out
Speaker 3: to me. That stood out to me. Number One, she
Speaker 3: says that she bought the gun and when they.
Speaker 1: Went out her home they found it was more than one.
Speaker 3: What she did say, looking at the garbage pail in
Speaker 3: I think in her bedroom, you'll find probably another gun
Speaker 3: in there. So they did go in there and they
Speaker 3: found that she had a few guns in her bedroom.
Speaker 3: She says she bought the weapon for the weapons for agent.
Speaker 1: And that's what she said. She bought the weapons for agent.
Speaker 1: That's what she said. So that stood out to me.
Speaker 4: One, what eve moved a little past just regular murder.
Speaker 2: But keep talking.
Speaker 3: Two, they left her in the car for two hours,
Speaker 3: this officer. So obviously the reason why I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't really know who's arresting and who's whatever whatever
Speaker 3: is because the first officer must have arrested her. And
Speaker 3: then this officer says he showed up and he saw
Speaker 3: a light in the car, and so he went over
Speaker 3: and asked that she have a cell phone, and she
Speaker 3: says she don't know, and then they searched her and
Speaker 3: found the cell phone, and she had been in the
Speaker 3: car for two hours with her cell phone under arrest.
Speaker 1: Now here's what I will say. That is not It
Speaker 1: is not.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say unlikely, but you're right, it's uncommon, right,
Speaker 3: It's not uncommon that sometimes you still have some of
Speaker 3: your possession until they get you to this precinct where
Speaker 3: they search you and they take all kinds of things, Jujerry,
Speaker 3: your shoelaces, yeah, this year, that and the third.
Speaker 1: So let's just put that out there.
Speaker 3: But they generally don't they don't leave you with your
Speaker 3: cell phone for two hours. Okay, So she was sitting
Speaker 3: in the car for two hours. He saw the light,
Speaker 3: he and he mentions it without reason. I'm sure he
Speaker 3: didn't say, he didn't tell He didn't tell you that
Speaker 3: the sky happened to be turning purple on this side.
Speaker 3: He didn't say she was crying, she was this, and
Speaker 3: that he tells you for a reason that her cell
Speaker 3: phone went off and he took it from her and
Speaker 3: you and booked it as evidence. Then, five six seven
Speaker 3: pages later in his report, he mentions that when they
Speaker 3: bought her in for questioning, and they asked to see
Speaker 3: the footage of the two cameras outside.
Speaker 1: Her house, because they asked her for when.
Speaker 3: They wanted to see the footage for the two cameras
Speaker 3: outside her house, he says, she first said no. They
Speaker 3: went back and forth, and then finally she decided to
Speaker 3: unlock her phone to let them look at the footage.
Speaker 3: So pause, go back to the time that this incident
Speaker 3: is happening. She's being arrested. There were mothers, Like there
Speaker 3: was times like eight forty six and you know, nine
Speaker 3: oh two and eight something. So all of this from
Speaker 3: the incident, like when the phone calls first came in,
Speaker 3: Like I was seeing times like eight forty six over here.
Speaker 3: Nine oh two was like when they probably arrived and
Speaker 3: had her in the car. So all of this is
Speaker 3: in the eight forty, eight thirty or let's say eight
Speaker 3: to ten time frames.
Speaker 1: Right the last.
Speaker 3: Video when she showed them her videos of the surveillance camera.
Speaker 1: The last video was at eight forty so she.
Speaker 2: Was on her phone for that two hours deleting.
Speaker 1: From her camera.
Speaker 3: Wow, there's other stuff, but we got other things to
Speaker 3: talk about.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna rest my.
Speaker 2: That's just crazy.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, first of all, I don't understand how
Speaker 4: it took them so long to really arrest in charge
Speaker 4: and that. So that just based off that. If you knew,
Speaker 4: That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: What are the police doing.
Speaker 1: In this town?
Speaker 3: The investigative officer doesn't it doesn't work on the weekends.
Speaker 1: Or on the like, that's just crazy to me, and
Speaker 1: that he'd be back in two days. They told them
Speaker 1: he's not around for a few days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just trying to That's crazy to me
Speaker 4: is that you did all of that, You got a hold,
Speaker 4: You have statements that you made that shows how you
Speaker 4: were so negligent the police. When I say you how
Speaker 4: the police was so negligent and their investigation and the
Speaker 4: procedures that they took they carried out like you've seen
Speaker 4: her doing all these things like you can like it's documented,
Speaker 4: like when when you read those statements that they made,
Speaker 4: we basically saying that this shit might be premeditated murder.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, that's why I said I rested my
Speaker 3: case because I could go on. I could go on
Speaker 3: to when she says the door. They asked her, did Susan,
Speaker 3: did AJ twist your door.
Speaker 1: Knob or anything? She says, no, she was just banging
Speaker 1: on the door.
Speaker 3: But you had a new bolt lock that the owner
Speaker 3: of the property had a new bolt lock installed in
Speaker 3: her house not long ago, so she was you would saying,
Speaker 3: so long story short, Like I said, I rested my
Speaker 3: case on it because just with that little bit of information,
Speaker 3: along the state's attorney should be raising those charges, and
Speaker 3: so on the thirtieth he's gonna announce it. And all
Speaker 3: leading up to the thirtieth, the local organizers in O'calla
Speaker 3: will be holding different rallies. They will be protesting, they'll
Speaker 3: be organizing, they'll be doing vigils. I'm going to join
Speaker 3: them until freedom will be joining them throughout the week
Speaker 3: for some of the activities. And so, folks, you should
Speaker 3: watch out and figure out how you can be supportive
Speaker 3: and make sure you lift your voices because you got
Speaker 3: two days from now when you're seeing this show, until
Speaker 3: the thirtieth, when the State's Attorney in Okalla, Florida will
Speaker 3: announce whether or not he will increase the charges from
Speaker 3: manslaughter to murder for the murder of aj Owens by
Speaker 3: Susan Lorenz.
Speaker 1: And so in the next.
Speaker 3: Couple of days, tear it up, you know, use your
Speaker 3: social media and make your phone calls.
Speaker 1: Make sure your voice is heard.
Speaker 2: It's just a.
Speaker 4: Lot, man, It's terrible, man. You know, once again, my
Speaker 4: Candolas to the family. You know, I don't this system
Speaker 4: America is crazy, man, Like when every time I hear
Speaker 4: shit like this, you know, it's just it's mind boggling
Speaker 4: to me, Like.
Speaker 2: It's literally literally literally mind boggling.
Speaker 4: But this is where we live, man, this is how
Speaker 4: our justice system has always treated, you know, us. So
Speaker 4: it's even though it's not something that's uncommon or new
Speaker 4: to me, it still doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2: It's not right. I'm not jaded to the point.
Speaker 4: I'm not like I'm always outraged and confused at how
Speaker 4: you know, a justice system on any system that's supposed
Speaker 4: to be built on righteousness, constantly intentionally gets it wrong when.
Speaker 2: It comes to us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they overcharge black folks all the time, and they're
Speaker 3: trying to undercharge a white woman for killing a black
Speaker 3: woman because the children was playing in the yard and
Speaker 3: the lady thinks she owned everything. I saw a video
Speaker 3: of a Karen inside of a man's house upstairs in
Speaker 3: his house.
Speaker 1: She's gonna tell him what he can and can I do.
Speaker 3: Anyway, We're gonna find a way to truncate this particular
Speaker 3: topic into five minutes. So you know, the last few months,
Speaker 3: we have intentionally not talked about the Tory Lane situation
Speaker 3: and Tory lanees and Meg thee Stallion. We have intentionally
Speaker 3: not talked about it. Because I know for me and
Speaker 3: sometimes you but sometimes you don't really care.
Speaker 1: But I know for me.
Speaker 3: One of the things that are very, very very conscious
Speaker 3: of is when certain topics become divisive and people it
Speaker 3: starts to be very clear that black folks are fighting
Speaker 3: back and forth on the internet. I don't like to
Speaker 3: participate in that. So when I make a statement about something,
Speaker 3: I said what I said. If I changed my mind,
Speaker 3: I'll come back and say that. And if I think
Speaker 3: I need to double down, I might do that. But
Speaker 3: I tried not to be a part of a constant
Speaker 3: bickering back and forth with black people. And all of
Speaker 3: us is fighting because we got enough damn exposure of
Speaker 3: our issues and we just don't need that. And this
Speaker 3: situation is extremely divisive even fright now. Of course, friends
Speaker 3: and family members, we talk about it offline all the time.
Speaker 3: People call me, hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: Did you see this? Did you see that? So the
Speaker 3: last time that we kind of discussed it, and I'm
Speaker 3: not even sure if we really discussed it or not,
Speaker 3: was when he was convicted.
Speaker 1: Right after I sat in the courtroom.
Speaker 3: And what I continuously explain to people is that what
Speaker 3: goes on in the court. I don't care how it's
Speaker 3: articulated to you in on the best blog, whoever your
Speaker 3: best blog or YouTuber is. What goes on in the
Speaker 3: court is different from what we see when it comes
Speaker 3: to the news period. The way that the titles are
Speaker 3: written for the stories from even your best reporters, the
Speaker 3: people from freaking Robin Roberts, who we consider to be
Speaker 3: a stellar journalist right she is.
Speaker 1: She is an unscathed record of you.
Speaker 3: Know, providing people with true, fair and honest information. She
Speaker 3: is not somebody I would consider to be an activist
Speaker 3: or a radical activist in the social justice space, because
Speaker 3: she certainly is for black women's health. But in the
Speaker 3: social justice space where I'm worried about, like is she's
Speaker 3: saying things from this way or that way. I don't
Speaker 3: see her as being super conservative that she's down with.
Speaker 3: I just see Robin Roberts as a flatline great.
Speaker 1: Journalist, even when when when she says.
Speaker 3: Things it comes from a specific mindset. That's just human nature.
Speaker 3: So if you if Robin Roberts is writing her titles
Speaker 3: for stories herself, she's still gonna write it the way
Speaker 3: that it sounds best to her and the way that
Speaker 3: she thinks is gonna grab the attention of the public.
Speaker 3: That is not necessarily how the topic is being discussed
Speaker 3: in court.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2: There's no there's no real sensationalism.
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's that's part of media and media,
Speaker 4: social media and media. They have to say certain things
Speaker 4: that that peak your interests, that even may insinuate or anything,
Speaker 4: even if it's not true. This insinuation and they put it,
Speaker 4: they frame it in a manner in which it does.
Speaker 4: What they're saying is not wrong or right, but it
Speaker 4: intrigues you. So it can mean so many different things.
Speaker 4: So so that's what that's what media does. Like that's
Speaker 4: what a lot of they do when they say, you know, clickbait.
Speaker 4: A lot of some people overdo it. Some people utilize
Speaker 4: their personal interests, but some people know the interests of
Speaker 4: people in general. So they make titles and they and
Speaker 4: they base the story around a certain theme that they
Speaker 4: know captures the ears in the eyes of the people.
Speaker 4: But when you inside of a courtroom, they going by
Speaker 4: that law, they.
Speaker 3: Start getting into them, and then people start objecting and
Speaker 3: they start narrowing information.
Speaker 4: And the thing is, but you but you got two
Speaker 4: different you got two different lawyers that's presenting their cases
Speaker 4: and the same way that they do in the media.
Speaker 4: So if you're a biased media, then you're gonna you're
Speaker 4: gonna go with whoever you like the way they the
Speaker 4: prosecution just said, Oh, the prosecution, that's what happens.
Speaker 2: What happened.
Speaker 4: And that's where they have judges, because the judge at
Speaker 4: that point is.
Speaker 2: Going to pull out strictly.
Speaker 1: The law exactly, and.
Speaker 2: A lot of facts in the law to go INtime.
Speaker 3: If they are a good judge, if they're a good judge. Right,
Speaker 3: and we understand that everything we're saying can be also
Speaker 3: skewed based upon whether or not you and the kangaroo court.
Speaker 3: You're in a racist court, you in the whatever. But
Speaker 3: the jurors for the most part, are able to when
Speaker 3: they're deliberating and when they're going through whatever, they are
Speaker 3: going through evidence that is very very specific. Right, they
Speaker 3: heard they hit the media for the most part, unless
Speaker 3: they've been sequested, but they did in this case.
Speaker 1: They were not. They hear the media. They hear a way.
Speaker 3: The defense asked the question, the way to prosecute and
Speaker 3: move things around. Now they see the judge's motion, they
Speaker 3: pay attention all that they watched what's going on, but
Speaker 3: that evidence isn't what they come back to when it's
Speaker 3: time to deliberate it. So now that I sat there
Speaker 3: right and I heard and saw, so I already knew
Speaker 3: that it was a very slim chance, a slim chance
Speaker 3: that Tory Lanez would be acquitted acquit it.
Speaker 1: It was very slim.
Speaker 3: It's possible, because anything can happen, but it was very
Speaker 3: slim based upon the little bit of stuff. And then
Speaker 3: of course we had people in the courtroom on a
Speaker 3: regular basis, folks, was there almost on a daily basis
Speaker 3: reporting about some of the stuff that was happening some people,
Speaker 3: you know, until freedom people. So that's that's how I felt,
Speaker 3: but again didn't know, chose not to speak on it.
Speaker 3: Then the results are what they are, which was very
Speaker 3: much in line with what we know. Okay, so that's
Speaker 3: that since then, this is what I've been trying to do.
Speaker 3: Go First, they try to accuse the judge of misconduct.
Speaker 3: This judge, I sat there. He's a black man. Now,
Speaker 3: I know some judges that ain't shit that this man
Speaker 3: was sitting up there and the only thing the judge
Speaker 3: was doing, he was a real, real, like black man,
Speaker 3: like he's just like, now that ain't happening. Okay, let's
Speaker 3: hear that. I understand exactly what she's saying. Don't worry,
Speaker 3: you don't need to repeat. I don't need no help.
Speaker 3: We clear moving on. He was very all the time.
Speaker 3: Then they Okay, so first they tried that, then they
Speaker 3: tried this whole thing about ineffective counsel. So they're saying
Speaker 3: the lawyers didn't do a good job. So I never
Speaker 3: really I mean no, no, I've read that his lawyer
Speaker 3: in the mess that he was trying to do in
Speaker 3: court wasn't making sense.
Speaker 1: So I agreed with that.
Speaker 3: But now we know why because the lawyer that presented
Speaker 3: the case in court was not his original lawyer who
Speaker 3: was supposed to be there to defend him. The lawyer
Speaker 3: who was supposed to be there was a woman. I
Speaker 3: think her name is Sean Holly or something, Sean, I
Speaker 3: know it's her first name. She was his original lawyer.
Speaker 3: The second person, the man who actually defended him in court,
Speaker 3: was a person that they bought in because Sean attorney,
Speaker 3: Sean did not want to participate in trying to blame
Speaker 3: Kelsey for.
Speaker 2: The shooting.
Speaker 3: She said she didn't think it was viable, and she said,
Speaker 3: we need to go. You know, she said, you gotta.
Speaker 1: Get somebody else to do it. Yeah, that's what she said.
Speaker 3: She said, you gotta get somebody else to do it,
Speaker 3: and she went and got or.
Speaker 1: However, this other man came into it.
Speaker 3: And so the ineffective counsel question that is being raised
Speaker 3: by his new attorneys is based upon the idea that
Speaker 3: this woman was compromised because Kelsey mentioned in her statement
Speaker 3: that his lawyer was going to connect him for this
Speaker 3: money that was supposed to be between the two of them,
Speaker 3: which is being called bribe money, right, and so Kelsey
Speaker 3: mentions that. So the woman in her documentation, in her
Speaker 3: letter to Tori, she said to him, I, first of all,
Speaker 3: I'm they're bringing up my name and some shit about
Speaker 3: some money exchange and that never happened.
Speaker 1: And because of that, I don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 3: Also, I don't feel that this defense that you guys
Speaker 3: are trying to use about, you know, Kelsey being the shooter,
Speaker 3: I don't think that's a viable option.
Speaker 1: So either way, even and so the new.
Speaker 3: Lawyers is basically like, this is ineffective because one she
Speaker 3: couldn't possibly prepare the man who ended up being the
Speaker 3: defense attorney who you know, cross examined or whatever, Kelsey
Speaker 3: and whatever on his on Tory Lane's bad, she saying.
Speaker 3: The new lawyers are saying because of the fact that
Speaker 3: she briefed him and helped him prepare, if she didn't
Speaker 3: feel confident in the strategy, she couldn't have possibly briefed
Speaker 3: him properly. And if she felt like she was going
Speaker 3: to be implicated later on in some question about whether
Speaker 3: or not she was involved in a bribe exchange, then
Speaker 3: she also was compromised and would not have been able
Speaker 3: to present him with the best counsel because she was
Speaker 3: protecting herself.
Speaker 1: That's their two points.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna just say this and I'm totally and
Speaker 3: I have nothing else to say, even the way you
Speaker 3: look at it, the lawyer being involved in a bride
Speaker 3: to shut somebody up for what, or moving to your
Speaker 3: second option, which is that she just didn't think that
Speaker 3: they were going She wasn't willing to participate in trying
Speaker 3: to blame somebody she knows did not shoot that girl.
Speaker 1: So no matter how you look at it, I'm so confused.
Speaker 4: I think for me, right. And I'm just gonna be
Speaker 4: very clear. You know, I had I've had communication back
Speaker 4: and forth with Tori about the situation. I've been vocal
Speaker 4: about it on social media, you know. And I think
Speaker 4: for me from the beginning, it just wasn't right. Right,
Speaker 4: And when when you morally as a man, when we
Speaker 4: stand up as men, it's certain ship that's right. There's
Speaker 4: certain things wrong. We've been in the streets. I've been
Speaker 4: in the streets. I've been surrounded by the most notorious.
Speaker 4: I've been surrounded by people who taking people's lives. I
Speaker 4: have friends who have taken people's lives. I have friends
Speaker 4: who have shot and done all types of things right,
Speaker 4: and and and when I understand that those things are
Speaker 4: they're not they're not good things. You know, the level
Speaker 4: of violence and in things that I've been around my
Speaker 4: whole life has not been good. And but there's levels
Speaker 4: of integrity and honor that even those people that people
Speaker 4: say are the most notorious people that they've had, right,
Speaker 4: there's levels of ship that. Okay, I was engaged with
Speaker 4: somebody who was in the streets. We had a beef.
Speaker 4: This is how we were taught to handle it. We
Speaker 4: dealt with how we dealt with it. I suffered the
Speaker 4: consequences they suffered. The conference, current lives was lost. I
Speaker 4: didn't want to take a li life. It was minds
Speaker 4: over as I've been around those things, you know, and
Speaker 4: men have been held themselves accountable with certain things, you know,
Speaker 4: And I was never comfortable with just the way that
Speaker 4: Tory's whole energy was in this situation, knowing that even
Speaker 4: if you thought that Kelsey shot that woman the way
Speaker 4: that you went about thought thought, I mean, I'm just
Speaker 4: I'm giving.
Speaker 2: I just want you to just hear his full either,
Speaker 2: even if you if.
Speaker 4: That was your stance that Kelsey did such and such
Speaker 4: to the way that he went about piling on a
Speaker 4: woman who everyone knows the shot was just wrong as
Speaker 4: a man, it was morally it was something that integrity
Speaker 4: didn't fit well with me. And that was always my
Speaker 4: my my thing with it. I always I never thought
Speaker 4: that Kelsey shot because it just never made sense to me.
Speaker 4: It never made sense to me that a woman who's
Speaker 4: been somebody's best friend decided to all you over anight
Speaker 4: who's never been a street person and just decide that
Speaker 4: she's gonna shoot and kill her best friend or attempt
Speaker 4: to shoot.
Speaker 2: A over argument. It just never made sense to me.
Speaker 4: You know, it never made sense to me that a
Speaker 4: woman who was shot didn't know who the person was
Speaker 4: that shot her. Like I've never heard a person say
Speaker 4: that person shot me and that person didn't shoot me,
Speaker 4: and when they knew.
Speaker 2: The person that shot heim.
Speaker 4: I also knew that I've never seen a victim get
Speaker 4: shot go to court and say that person shot me
Speaker 4: and a person beat the case. It's just those things
Speaker 4: I've never seen done right. So from the beginning, just
Speaker 4: watching how this whole thing was played out.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't watch jail on anybody.
Speaker 4: I don't, but I think as men, as black, especially
Speaker 4: as black men, especially in a hip hop community, we
Speaker 4: gotta start holding ourselves more accountable for shit. We gotta
Speaker 4: be we have to actually man up. It's certain shit
Speaker 4: we just can't be okay with. I can't call myself
Speaker 4: a g and all of this shit and I'm co
Speaker 4: signing that nigga shine a girl for any reason.
Speaker 2: I just can't.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of dudes that I've seen do
Speaker 4: it that I had levels of respect for, and it's
Speaker 4: just like for me, you know, to continue to put
Speaker 4: out any type of energy other than with fifty to
Speaker 4: fifty said.
Speaker 2: Y'all apologize as a man. He said, damn.
Speaker 4: You know, first I thought this and I've seen her
Speaker 4: line about this, But when I heard him on the tape, toe, oh,
Speaker 4: I know what this is, you know, and I had
Speaker 4: to apologize as a man for the jokes and all
Speaker 4: this shit. I mean, and I think, I think, you know,
Speaker 4: at some point Tory is gonna have to live with
Speaker 4: a level of honor, some level of.
Speaker 2: Integrity and just be like and I don't want to. Man.
Speaker 4: I understand he finds for his freedom and they're gonna
Speaker 4: do what he gotta do. You know, these lawyers are
Speaker 4: just basically utilizing and taking his money.
Speaker 3: Because that's what the lady was doing.
Speaker 4: What's going on is I've been incarcerated, and I know
Speaker 4: what ineffective assistance a council. Ineffectiveness as a counsel is
Speaker 4: not that you have a bad strategy, right In effect
Speaker 4: sens the council means that you didn't object to certain
Speaker 4: shit that was supposed to be objected to, You didn't
Speaker 4: present certain evidence that you were supposed to not because
Speaker 4: your strategy failed. Your lawyer was a bad lawyer ineffective.
Speaker 4: It's bad lawyers everywhere, right, So he's fighting what he
Speaker 4: has to fight, and these lawyers know that there's really
Speaker 4: nothing they could do, but he's holding onto anything.
Speaker 2: So they drained him for the little bit of money
Speaker 2: he has.
Speaker 4: You know, from the beginning, what I told that man
Speaker 4: to do, you know, when we had our carge. Yo,
Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on, but I just know
Speaker 4: the way you're going about this ain't right as a man,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I don't wish any
Speaker 4: harm on that man, you know. And he's gonna continue
Speaker 4: to fight. They're gonna fight, They're gonna say whatever they
Speaker 4: have to do, and a man wants his freedom back.
Speaker 4: But I think at some point, not only just Tory,
Speaker 4: you know, but I think the industry in general, the
Speaker 4: way that we deal with accountability as men and doing
Speaker 4: shit that's just bad and just wrong. Like everybody was
Speaker 4: so like I was. I love the fact that people
Speaker 4: weren't okay with with what's his name, k so Cyrus,
Speaker 4: whatever his names. Yeah, I'm saying, but I love the
Speaker 4: fact that people was like, Yo, that's some bullshit you did.
Speaker 4: We're gonna hold you accountable. That's that's something that's some
Speaker 4: sucker ship. You know what I'm saying. But I don't
Speaker 4: understand why we're not saying it's some sucking ship that
Speaker 4: a nigga shot a woman, and continue and we continue
Speaker 4: to go back and forth and try to make the
Speaker 4: man shot the woman. This is what the course said,
Speaker 4: like we we stop playing this game. We're not gonna
Speaker 4: keep playing a game. We know what happened.
Speaker 2: You see, we literally watched all of this. We see
Speaker 2: what Kelsey got an old statement out. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying that.
Speaker 4: You see, we know what happened in that any street
Speaker 4: nigga knows real street.
Speaker 2: Let's stop sitting here playing this game.
Speaker 4: You know what I hope is that Toy is dealing
Speaker 4: with you know, maybe he's getting some religion in there,
Speaker 4: he's getting in faith, whatever he needs to do so
Speaker 4: when he.
Speaker 2: Comes home that he started carrying himself different.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, as a man, we just
Speaker 4: gotta be just gonna start moving better as men. And
Speaker 4: you know, and I'm talking about myself as general, like
Speaker 4: we just can't peacefully coexist.
Speaker 2: With suckershit that we know is sucker shit. Let it go, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like I feel like in this particular situation, the
Speaker 3: approach and the reason why the first thing I mentioned
Speaker 3: was them trying to go after the judge to me
Speaker 3: and I'm and again, like you said, fight with whatever
Speaker 3: you have.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a good strategy because you.
Speaker 3: Didn't really have a true claim of anything about this
Speaker 3: judge being a bias or whatever they were trying to use.
Speaker 3: You didn't really have a true claim for that. And
Speaker 3: so now what you have done is made the judge
Speaker 3: feeling for you nothing.
Speaker 1: Like now you put the judge, You put.
Speaker 3: The judge, You put the judge in question to the
Speaker 3: point where, even though nothing has happened, the appeals board
Speaker 3: or whomever, they are not going to look at it.
Speaker 3: Nobody's doing, not the appeal excuse me, whatever board gets
Speaker 3: to review the issues with judges. They haven't found the
Speaker 3: misconduct on behalf.
Speaker 2: Of the judge.
Speaker 3: Right, So now the judge, even though he doesn't have
Speaker 3: any like you know, bad.
Speaker 1: Mark on his report card, is still.
Speaker 3: Something in his file that says someone tried, so he
Speaker 3: still has a stain in terms of when you look
Speaker 3: at it, you will at least see that someone else
Speaker 3: accused him of this in the past, whether or not
Speaker 3: they were successful, the accusation is there. So now human
Speaker 3: instinct is that instead of you like, Judge, please don't
Speaker 3: you know, like he said at first, you know, please
Speaker 3: don't ruin my life or whatever whatever, all of that
Speaker 3: stuff cool, but now you put the man's credibility in jeopardy,
Speaker 3: and then you think that he's not gonna I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that that Judge is gone because I really, honestly
Speaker 3: don't think that Judge is gonna be all super hard handed.
Speaker 3: I think he's just gonna give whatever he already was
Speaker 3: gonna give from when he first knew this young man
Speaker 3: is gonna get convinced.
Speaker 2: Why would you put a musician to where where he now.
Speaker 3: He can Now he can't, he even says. He even
Speaker 3: says because another thing, And this is why I can't
Speaker 3: stand about social media. Oh, it's not social media. It's
Speaker 3: not social media. It's people that don't read. Because if
Speaker 3: you read the documents and the report instead of going
Speaker 3: to make a comment so fast, you will find that
Speaker 3: the reason why the records are public because people were like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is misconduct, it's this and read it says in
Speaker 3: the first few lines that the way that this information
Speaker 3: came forward is because Tory agreed to it in order
Speaker 3: to release records that shows ineffective counsel.
Speaker 1: So he had to prove that the that.
Speaker 3: The the lawyer knew about, you know, Chelsey's statements that
Speaker 3: she might have had something to do with the bribe,
Speaker 3: and that the lawyer was going to help to to
Speaker 3: to brief the new lawyer. They had to show all
Speaker 3: of that. So they had to make these documents available
Speaker 3: the judge despite everything else that's going on all the way,
Speaker 3: so that the judge may feel says.
Speaker 1: To Tory in court, you sure you want to do this?
Speaker 1: You're sure you.
Speaker 3: Want to open these documents because there are things in
Speaker 3: the The judge tells him, there are things in the
Speaker 3: documents that's not so favorable, and there's gonna be a
Speaker 3: lot of eyeballs on this, So are you sure you
Speaker 3: want to do it? Tory asked him, can you repeat
Speaker 3: that again so he could understand the man.
Speaker 1: Repeats it, he speaks to his lawyer, His.
Speaker 3: Lawyers probably like bro I told we already told you.
Speaker 3: We ain't got a lot to work.
Speaker 2: It's all we got. We gonna just need you to
Speaker 2: keep paying dropping that money.
Speaker 4: Man. It's really just sad, you know. And I pray
Speaker 4: for him because, like I said, I say all the time,
Speaker 4: I don't wish jail on nobody. I don't want the
Speaker 4: man in jail.
Speaker 3: I wish the man would have never even My thing
Speaker 3: is the reason why we keep saying all of this
Speaker 3: is because narcissism and other things that people suffer from,
Speaker 3: and we all have parts of it, our egos, we
Speaker 3: all suffer from it. Put him in a situation where
Speaker 3: he didn't understand the severity of it. He thought that
Speaker 3: he could just because she was sleeping with him and
Speaker 3: it was a friend.
Speaker 1: You know, he was first with the friend.
Speaker 3: He knew all of the things, the little inner quiet
Speaker 3: details that we may not that may not you know,
Speaker 3: we may not even know, but we know enough to
Speaker 3: know that Meg wasn't in the best situation. And I
Speaker 3: don't I'm talking about her own choices. Put her in
Speaker 3: a funky situation with a friend and a dude and
Speaker 3: the this, and she was, you know, getting low in
Speaker 3: the night with a bathing suit on somewhere she this
Speaker 3: and it was fighting and arguing, and then all of
Speaker 3: it wasn't good for her, and he knew that he
Speaker 3: tried to pray on it play and I'm using pray
Speaker 3: for a reason on that, and thought that he could
Speaker 3: just go and walking in and do whatever he wanted
Speaker 3: to do instead of from day one just being humble
Speaker 3: about all of it. So it could have because she
Speaker 3: didn't even want the situation to end up where it is.
Speaker 3: And then beyond that, I believe that if he would
Speaker 3: have made the right cause to the right people and
Speaker 3: had the right attitude, they would have tried to figure
Speaker 3: out a way to make the situation.
Speaker 1: Go away or for him to do a little bit
Speaker 1: of whatever time.
Speaker 3: Because obviously, well I'm not gonna say obviously, but I
Speaker 3: don't believe that the man was dead trying to shoot
Speaker 3: at her. I think he was again going with this
Speaker 3: ego thing and the type of personality shooting at the ground,
Speaker 3: and the bullets ricocheted, the little fragments ricoestrat ricocheted into
Speaker 3: her feet, and I think somebody actually might have been okay,
Speaker 3: Like not saying they would have been okay with it,
Speaker 3: but they kind of would have been like, all right,
Speaker 3: you know, that was stupid, So we gotta get some
Speaker 3: stuff for the gun, and the shooting not in the
Speaker 3: thing and or whatever. But we're not gonna put you
Speaker 3: in jail for charges that have to do with the
Speaker 3: like Damn, they're almost about to kill somebody.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just so fucked up. And you're right, this.
Speaker 2: Is an all fucked up situation. Man. I just want
Speaker 2: this to be served as.
Speaker 4: A learning, learning experience to men, especially black men in
Speaker 4: this industry.
Speaker 2: In the streets.
Speaker 4: Man, we just have to be We have to not
Speaker 4: allow our emotions to supersede our intelligence. We can't allow
Speaker 4: our egos to supersede our intelligence.
Speaker 2: And you know, we gotta we have to.
Speaker 4: We have to be a lot more conscious and be
Speaker 4: a lot and deal with a lot more integrity and
Speaker 4: not allow people anything to push you to the next level.
Speaker 4: I was having this conversation with my nephew yesterday. I
Speaker 4: was like, anytime that somebody does something that can control
Speaker 4: your actions, then they control you.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: If they anything, they can say or do something to
Speaker 4: make you do something, then they actually in the control.
Speaker 4: You don't have the control. I don't care how tough
Speaker 4: you think you are. If this person can say your
Speaker 4: old one and they know you're gonna do something, then
Speaker 4: they can put you in a trick bag anytime. You
Speaker 4: can never allow anybody to dictate your actions.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We that's something for all of us to learn, because
Speaker 3: that's a deep blessing. And I have to learn it
Speaker 3: because I get two.
Speaker 4: It is, I mean, it's not easy. Self mastery is
Speaker 4: I think that's what we have to seek. You know,
Speaker 4: as as we grow older as self mastery, you know,
Speaker 4: every day I find myself growing and certain shit that
Speaker 4: I used to ready to kill and die, ab out
Speaker 4: and this and that.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't even care.
Speaker 4: About that, shiite, Like, like what you can I don't
Speaker 4: even your mother, Remember we used to your mother, your mother.
Speaker 4: If somebody say your mother, you was ready to die
Speaker 4: about that? You ready to do everything?
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: You don't even know what?
Speaker 2: Kid? You say? What does that do? Right?
Speaker 4: The things that we hold value to it that we've
Speaker 4: given some level of you know, of value and and
Speaker 4: levels of superiority in our life don't even matter, you know.
Speaker 4: And once you start, when you have self mastered, that's
Speaker 4: why you see the most successful people are calm, right,
Speaker 4: They just relaxed. They don't overreact, they don't they don't
Speaker 4: their emotions come out when it's it's strategic, you know,
Speaker 4: when they want to inflict the emotion on you, when
Speaker 4: they want you to feel something, they bring those emotions up,
Speaker 4: but they don't allow anything and the circumstances around them
Speaker 4: to dictate their emotions. They even kill they thinking it's
Speaker 4: it's it's always thought processes, you know. And I said,
Speaker 4: I want us our young men. You know, we're talking
Speaker 4: about violence in our communities. That's what it is. It's emotions.
Speaker 4: It's us not being emotionally intelligent.
Speaker 2: Man. So that's all I want. Man, Let's let's deal.
Speaker 4: With emotional intelligence so that you know that brings me
Speaker 4: to my I don't get it. I posted something on Instagram.
Speaker 4: There was an officer who you know, smacked a young
Speaker 4: man and he's it seems like he's in the process
Speaker 4: room and the officer just.
Speaker 2: Smacks him in the face.
Speaker 4: They had just he smacks him, throws him around and
Speaker 4: they come jump on him and and it was just it.
Speaker 2: Was it's just very volatile situation.
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know, this is the people
Speaker 4: that's supposed to protect and serve us, and they believe
Speaker 4: that you could just put your hands on the civilia
Speaker 4: and this manner and it's just okay, and it's just not.
Speaker 2: Huh, they have right. And I was listening to people.
Speaker 4: A lot of people in my comments kind of could me,
Speaker 4: and people was like, yeah, you know, it was his
Speaker 4: attitude that he needed to be humbled. Now mind you,
Speaker 4: mind you there's no audio, right, this is literally.
Speaker 2: Video. So all they see the man do is pull
Speaker 2: his pants up. The over success on him.
Speaker 4: There's some level of dialogue, but all I didn't see
Speaker 4: the man put his hands up. I didn't even see
Speaker 4: him getting in a fighting stance, like more more than
Speaker 4: likely when you inside those states, they take your belt off,
Speaker 4: so you don't have a belt. He's pulling his pants up.
Speaker 4: I ain't see one leg go before the other, the
Speaker 4: other one to the back, because I know when you
Speaker 4: pull your pants up, when you get in a fighting stance,
Speaker 4: you get one foot is in front, one is in back.
Speaker 4: He didn't move in that man, he just pulled his
Speaker 4: pants up. I don't know what he was saying when
Speaker 4: he was smack. He was so taken off guard by
Speaker 4: the smack that I don't even understand how people made
Speaker 4: an assessment that this man was arrogant or saying something
Speaker 4: that was wrong. Right is right, No, but that we're
Speaker 4: gonna get there with the fact that people don't understand that,
Speaker 4: and I'm okay with There needs to be level of humbling, right,
Speaker 4: because if me.
Speaker 2: And my son get into a thing and my son
Speaker 2: jumps up in my face.
Speaker 4: I'mna whoop his ass, but I'm gonna let him he
Speaker 4: can fight me back. I'm gonna show if I'm trying
Speaker 4: to humble you, right, if I'm trying to show you
Speaker 4: that there's a difference between me and you and you
Speaker 4: a kid and I'm a man, it's because I'm showing
Speaker 4: you that I can whip your ass, and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: give you the opportunity to whip my ass back. You
Speaker 4: can't humble somebody with the playing field ain't level, right,
Speaker 4: because you're just a punk. It's like if you tie
Speaker 4: my hands behind my back and you beating me, you're
Speaker 4: not teaching me a lesson. You're not making me feel
Speaker 4: like I need to be humble. No, you're showing me
Speaker 4: that I'm at a disadvantage and that you need an
Speaker 4: advantage over me to impose your will over me. It
Speaker 4: doesn't humble me. It makes me more angry, right, it
Speaker 4: makes me that much more of a violent person. I
Speaker 4: was having this conversation yesterday while I got my kids
Speaker 4: at boxing. Shout out to my man Gabe over there
Speaker 4: surviving forty one, and we was talking about the younger child, right,
Speaker 4: and we were talking about how it always seems like
Speaker 4: the younger child is more aggressive than the older children, and.
Speaker 2: It's because the younger child has been picked on.
Speaker 4: The older child has always imposed they will on a
Speaker 4: younger child, so they have a level of animosity and
Speaker 4: anger that they put out more than the older child.
Speaker 2: And getting picked on.
Speaker 4: The older child is always imposing his will on a
Speaker 4: smaller one. The younger one so young gonna always feel
Speaker 4: like he gotta fight. Cassing always feel like he gotta
Speaker 4: fight for his life.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: Cameron is never coming in here like crying and mad.
Speaker 4: Kensing is like leave me alone. He's fighting, He's angry,
Speaker 4: and it comes because it's older brother. It feels like
Speaker 4: he can posed his will on him. So he's not
Speaker 4: teaching him a lesson, you just making him more aggressive.
Speaker 4: And as they grow, you can sell that they more
Speaker 4: aggressive than you are. You understand I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 4: what happens in these situations with the police when the
Speaker 4: police ain't taking If you want to prove a lesson,
Speaker 4: take your badge or put your shit to the side
Speaker 4: and take me in the room and whip my ass
Speaker 4: like a man. I'm gonna have a level of respect
Speaker 4: for you, but I'm not gonna respect you. You're not
Speaker 4: teaching me no lesson by you imposing a will and
Speaker 4: you utilizing If I swing back, now I got charges.
Speaker 2: I just think you're punk.
Speaker 4: That's all I think is that there's no there's no respect, drawing,
Speaker 4: there's no nothing that's being taught. So I'm completely I'm
Speaker 4: first of all, I'm taken back by that, and I'm
Speaker 4: and I'm completely taking back while people don't understand the
Speaker 4: reality of an officer who is paid to protect and serve,
Speaker 4: who's been trained, who are supposed to go beyond the logs,
Speaker 4: supposed to have a level of de escalation or a
Speaker 4: level of you know, humility, a level of.
Speaker 2: Something that the average civilian doesn't have.
Speaker 4: So if you if you lower yourself to the civilian,
Speaker 4: why the fuck we're paying you?
Speaker 1: Why are we paying again?
Speaker 3: But the point is this, this is it is a
Speaker 3: deeper point. It's actually illegal. That exactly it is you
Speaker 3: are not supposed to respond to somebody's talking. So if
Speaker 3: he said to you, man, fuck you, s M D.
Speaker 3: Such and such such, you're supposed to be like, that's
Speaker 3: why you're going to jail. Don't worry about it, sir.
Speaker 3: Put yourself over here, get your your things, your fingerprints taken.
Speaker 3: The only time you can physically react is if the
Speaker 3: person tries to attack you or makes you feel like.
Speaker 1: Your life is in change. That's it.
Speaker 3: So slapping somebody and all of that is not the job.
Speaker 3: The job does not have that in the description. In fact,
Speaker 3: there are laws that are to suggest the opposite.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you are the employee.
Speaker 4: Yes, and you are the authoritarian to where you're supposed
Speaker 4: to show a level of restraint that the other person doesn't.
Speaker 4: You're supposed to have a level of understanding that the
Speaker 4: person that you're arresting doesn't. That's why we give you guns,
Speaker 4: and that's why they give you things, because they believe
Speaker 4: that you of sound mind and you have a temperament
Speaker 4: that makes you qualified. Right, you know so, But you know,
Speaker 4: this is the world we live in. We can go
Speaker 4: on and on about other topics. You know, I wanted
Speaker 4: to talk about something else. But you know what I
Speaker 4: wanted to talk. I wanted to tell.
Speaker 1: You yeah, but you didn't do it, So I didn't
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave it alone, you know, but shout out.
Speaker 4: I wanted to shout out to the good Bishop T. D.
Speaker 4: Jakes Man because he said he said women need to
Speaker 4: stop trying to tell men how to be fathers because
Speaker 4: they ain't never been one, and we ain't telling y'all
Speaker 4: how to be mothers.
Speaker 1: So on that second part is not true. But okay,
Speaker 1: it's not true. No I think.
Speaker 3: I think yeah, because father, there are men who women
Speaker 3: or men explained to women what they're supposed to do
Speaker 3: for motherhood and this to that and the third I
Speaker 3: was just telling you yesterday about how a man is
Speaker 3: accusing a woman of all the problems that's happening with
Speaker 3: her children, for what she shouldn't have done and where
Speaker 3: she shouldn't have gone and what she shouldn't have done.
Speaker 3: So people do it to everybody. But I agree with
Speaker 3: you that women shouldn't tell men how to be fothers.
Speaker 2: So we'll have that discussion on later day.
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