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<v Speaker 1>What's a family. It's your girl to Mika D.

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<v Speaker 2>Mallory, and it's your boy my son in general, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We are your hostess street politicians.

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<v Speaker 3>The places and politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even hear any sirens.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>The new the New Zoom is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's one thing about COVID and the pandemic and

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<v Speaker 3>the zoom life.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of that is that people were not so

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<v Speaker 1>perfect anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so when you go to work, everything was quiet,

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<v Speaker 3>called no disturbance, this and that. Then it became stuff

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<v Speaker 3>happening in the house. Kids running by, the people with

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<v Speaker 3>their the bottom short, no pants on, just having the

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<v Speaker 3>shirt they got caught, Folks falling to sleep on the zoom.

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<v Speaker 3>Like everything you could think of happened. And it's even

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where me, I don't even try perfection

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<v Speaker 3>thing anymore. It's like, sorry, I tell y'all here. I

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<v Speaker 3>was doing a panel a couple of like days ago,

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<v Speaker 3>and the folks just decided, I promise you all morning

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<v Speaker 3>there was nothing so quiet around my house. Soon as

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<v Speaker 3>the panels started, they start drilling, not even like a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of knocking with nails. They start like like

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<v Speaker 3>a damn whatever those things are called. I was like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're trying to say people need to go back

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<v Speaker 4>to work. You know, they want people out of the house.

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<v Speaker 4>Ain't it ain't working. The house ain't working, the house,

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<v Speaker 4>my house ain't working. They want you to bring your

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<v Speaker 4>ass back to the offices, go to the spaces where

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<v Speaker 4>work was being carried out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it depends on who you ask, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>some come it needs to have found that the expenses

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<v Speaker 3>is better then, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, do you see.

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<v Speaker 3>How I have two my eyebrows are on two different

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<v Speaker 3>sides of my face.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a this is a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That I'm oh, this has been I struggle with it ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Since you came on here. It's been something.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, listen, listen.

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<v Speaker 3>The people in the comment section, the people in the

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<v Speaker 3>comment section on my page, especially when I do lives.

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<v Speaker 1>They say it. They they'd be.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, why your eyebrows on two different levels. They'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>your makeup artists didn't get your eyebrows right. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not that. You know, my makeup artist she's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the best. She does an amazing job. It's not that

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<v Speaker 3>it's that my face literally has like a drop on

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<v Speaker 3>one side.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been struggling with.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether or not I'm going to get botox because or

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<v Speaker 3>just leave it alone and just be lopsided looking.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not gonna be lopside looking. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And as I'm talking to you, I actually see how lopsided.

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<v Speaker 1>My face is.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what like that was a vulnerable moment and

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<v Speaker 3>you just like brushed it off.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you started the whole show with vulnerable moments. Everything

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<v Speaker 4>is a vulnerable moment. This ain't right, This ain't right,

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<v Speaker 4>this is wrong, this is right, Mercy.

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<v Speaker 3>The other part of these this technology is that it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a mirror, especially for women, so we get a

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<v Speaker 3>chance to see what we look like, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have I mean, listen, I'm telling you my face is lopsided.

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<v Speaker 3>And since we're on the topic, I have one more issue,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm really I'm gonna make it my thought of

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<v Speaker 3>the day today. Lately, I've been talking about why folks

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<v Speaker 3>don't understand the need for pockets and clothes, and my

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<v Speaker 3>whole social media I can post about anything. We're about

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<v Speaker 3>to go shut down the streets. Daniel camera we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>stop him. We're gonna do this, We're gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I get very good response.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that my people engage with me on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>But when I post about there being no pockets and clothes,

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<v Speaker 3>how we want to we want quality clothing and not

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<v Speaker 3>cheap shirts for fifteen hundred dollars and five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>tank tops, and I post that, you would think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know, and you would. You would?

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<v Speaker 3>You just see in the comments section there's five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>people that have something.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they know. So my thought of the day today,

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<v Speaker 1>Why do.

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<v Speaker 3>Companies discontinue products that people love? I don't understand that

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<v Speaker 3>for the life of me.

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<v Speaker 1>What is wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it that you know this is a sold

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<v Speaker 3>out product, people keep buying it, people love it, it

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be working, and the next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they're on to some other thing and the product is discontinued.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it, and so I know it's not mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it. But that's my thought of the

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<v Speaker 3>day that I'm struggling with trying to understand. I tried

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<v Speaker 3>to order something today that I use regularly, and they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, oh yeah, no, we don't do that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>What but for five years, for five years, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>using the same thing. And I know I'm not the

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<v Speaker 3>only one because sometimes when I go to buy it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's sold out for a minute, they have to bring

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<v Speaker 3>it back and they are discontinuating. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they had the audacity to say to me, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>send you some pictures of some other stuff that you

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<v Speaker 3>should get. Look, I don't want that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>The stuff, Oh my lord, in different times, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's just a normal thing. It's like, it's like we're

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<v Speaker 4>in times where people try to force you things, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they try to force you ship that you don't even

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<v Speaker 4>like and take away the ship that you like, and

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<v Speaker 4>you're like, no, this was fine. And it's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>like even even in sports, right, it's players that's good players,

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<v Speaker 4>and what they do is they diminished to play it

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<v Speaker 4>because they feel like, okay, we want to play it

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<v Speaker 4>out of here, right, we don't want to play it

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<v Speaker 4>no more. You know, the players still got about five

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<v Speaker 4>six good years in them, but we're moving in a

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<v Speaker 4>different direction. We want to introduce new players to you.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to get these players out of the childe.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what happens. And it's just like even with

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<v Speaker 4>TV shows, like your favorite TV show, they be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we're ending.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the fuck you ended. It's the number one

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<v Speaker 2>TV show in the world, the number one show. Why

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<v Speaker 2>we have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>With people's attitudes moods. They don't want to do it anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what happened. And I think that's that's another thing

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<v Speaker 4>probably happens too. I think a lot of these brands

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<v Speaker 4>get so successful and they feel like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want the hustle or bustle what it takes

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<v Speaker 4>to keep creating and doing it, so they stop it.

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<v Speaker 4>They discontinue it, and they live off, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>billions of dollars that are made off of us.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they're like, you know, I don't have I

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<v Speaker 2>don't got to do it no more.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's the reason, because they still

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<v Speaker 3>who they are. Mac is still a Mac, and they

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<v Speaker 3>still somehow or another are starting to like their product

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<v Speaker 3>line is starting to change. Certain companies they're start they're

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<v Speaker 3>just it's just not the same, right, so, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>still in business.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>There doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what they think is exclusivity. It's just like

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they like, Okay, this is one of our

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<v Speaker 4>biggest sellers. If we stop it, we discontinue it. When

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<v Speaker 4>we want to re into the market. The words coume

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<v Speaker 4>of words that we say, yeah, we're bringing this back.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they just be experimenting. But like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>like it. I'm just saying I don't like it. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>let's get into some other news. Because my thought of

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<v Speaker 3>the day is very personal. It's very much in line

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<v Speaker 3>with the fact that my eyebrowser on two different levels

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm lopsided. That's happened. That's something I noticed today.

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<v Speaker 3>And the middle of the park in my head is

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<v Speaker 3>not actually in the middle. It's off centered and it's

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<v Speaker 3>very right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>See this is this is what you're doing right now

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<v Speaker 4>is disingenuous because you and to this part that you

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<v Speaker 4>have right now is intentionally not centered. But that's Look,

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<v Speaker 4>look what I'm trying to say is this no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm trying to tell you that I don't agree

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<v Speaker 4>with which your original point. So people are looking at

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<v Speaker 4>this right now, they're gonna say, oh, yeah, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>in the center.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you had a yeah, the other one isn't either.

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<v Speaker 4>That what I'm saying it is, So I would like

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<v Speaker 4>for you to at least let the people see so

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<v Speaker 4>I could see if I'm crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, no, no, no, that's not what I said.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not what I said. I didn't say whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>centered or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Today I said the middle part of my head is

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<v Speaker 3>off centered.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that's just my reality. After all, on top.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my head here everywhere, it's off centered. And therefore

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<v Speaker 3>I struggle with finding the middle of my head. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just happened to come today and I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 3>whoo today today.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are other things going on in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, we're now, as you all know, we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it all the time. We're filming days before

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<v Speaker 3>the release, so the release of this episode will be

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<v Speaker 3>in a few days. But right now, the submarine and

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<v Speaker 3>the folks down there that went to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>the water too, they wanted to go see the Titanic,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, obviously the Titanic has sunk and sunk

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<v Speaker 3>and sunk and sunk and sunk or sank and sank

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<v Speaker 3>and sank and sank, and it's at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>the damn ocean somewhere god knows where.

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<v Speaker 1>That is just wreckage basically, So.

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<v Speaker 3>These folks wanted to go see it, and they also

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<v Speaker 3>something happened, and hopefully by the time this airs, there'll

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<v Speaker 3>be more information about what happened. It could have been

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<v Speaker 3>a fired, it could have been hurt, all these different scenarios,

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<v Speaker 3>but the submarine is not in sight. They thought they

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<v Speaker 3>heard banging, or they did hear banging, because multiple agencies

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<v Speaker 3>and their sound listening systems or whatever heard banging over

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<v Speaker 3>and over every thirty minutes increments of it, which seemed

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<v Speaker 3>like it was some type of communication to at this

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<v Speaker 3>point have said that they ran out of oxygen based

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<v Speaker 3>upon the normal hours of ninety six hours to maintain

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<v Speaker 3>oxygen is gone and so the whole like everybody, Japan

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<v Speaker 3>was sending some equipment that goes deep down in the water.

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<v Speaker 3>The obviously the coast guard is out there managing all

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<v Speaker 3>of the stuff. They said that the search area was

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<v Speaker 3>as large as Connecticut and which for people who may

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<v Speaker 3>three I didn't know that, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Three Connecticuts, not just one.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I thought it said one. But okay, So and

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<v Speaker 3>if you're listening, you're like, what's Connecticut? But you should

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<v Speaker 3>know it's a state, so you know, that's a big state.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do feel like we as people, most humans,

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<v Speaker 3>and especially black folks, we're so sensitive about anything that

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<v Speaker 3>happens to anybody. It doesn't matter what they've done to us,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't matter anything. We still have a level of sensitivity

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<v Speaker 3>for people and then being harmed. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>in this situation, so many of us, our friends, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you and I've discussed people are really struggling with this.

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<v Speaker 1>They really are.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's really a tragic situation, man.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think about just the scenario in itself, being

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<v Speaker 4>in some two under the water, knowing that that there's

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<v Speaker 4>amount of time that you have before you run out

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<v Speaker 4>of air. It has to be in itself as traumatized.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's probably some people that didn't even make

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<v Speaker 4>it to run out of it. It's probably the people

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<v Speaker 4>that with so much level of trauma in shock, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>that probably went into cardiac arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that shit is a thing. That's that's a real

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<v Speaker 2>that's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So, you know, I think about that like a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people, like I always dread like being buried alive

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<v Speaker 4>and shit like that, Like those things are things that

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<v Speaker 4>I know our biggest fears for people. I remember you

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<v Speaker 4>said things like that, that's one of your big fears.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think most of us are sensitive to really

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<v Speaker 4>just thinking about the dynamics of what that is. And

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<v Speaker 4>then when you know a man and his son is

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<v Speaker 4>down there, young boy twenty two years old, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm perplexed. I'm sad, you know, because the likelihood

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<v Speaker 4>of them actually surviving at this point is very low,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, but God can do amazing things.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm perplexed as to.

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<v Speaker 4>Why, you know, like I'm you know, certain things I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of get, but I don't understand how and why

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<v Speaker 4>why would you sign waivers? They talking about pretty much

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<v Speaker 4>the waivers waived everything that you had, every right you had,

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<v Speaker 4>like you couldn't really suit them for anything. You pray

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<v Speaker 4>basically just said, look, hey, you rolling the dice, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know why someone would roll the dice

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<v Speaker 4>with their lives and their children and their children's lives.

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<v Speaker 4>It just taking a trip that was ill advised. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>is if somebody has to sign away all those things,

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<v Speaker 4>that means it's not really that safe.

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<v Speaker 2>And they know it's not that safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean it's the call caascity for me. I

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<v Speaker 3>have to be honest. And I know people will say

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<v Speaker 3>this is not a raised thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it Actually you ain't see one black person there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's other Well, first of all, it was a white.

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<v Speaker 3>Man who made the decision to put this together, and

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<v Speaker 3>he well the company. You know, I'm just listening to

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<v Speaker 3>the news as I do. I listened to every news station,

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<v Speaker 3>including sometimes Fox News, and I just let it run

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<v Speaker 3>in the background as I'm doing whatever in my house

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<v Speaker 3>and moving around or going wherever I'm going. So one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things I kept hearing looping around was that

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<v Speaker 3>the owner said this wasn't the core of the business.

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<v Speaker 3>They did it because they were trying to raise money

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<v Speaker 3>to do other things with the business. So this area

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<v Speaker 3>and there have been other employees who said they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think it was a good idea. They told them they

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think it was a good idea, They raised safety concerns,

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<v Speaker 3>and still this guy decided to get these people together

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<v Speaker 3>and take this ship down into wherever it is or

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<v Speaker 3>submarine whatever you know, however you describe it, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just really no, it's bad. And the reason why I

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<v Speaker 3>say it's the caucacity of it all is because I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know too many black people that are even gonna

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<v Speaker 3>try to come up with something like this, let alone

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<v Speaker 3>more black folks that's going to join them and go

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<v Speaker 3>down there. I just don't know many. That's one and

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<v Speaker 3>two the type of search efforts and the money that

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<v Speaker 3>is in the water right now and in the sky,

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<v Speaker 3>because they say you can hear things in the ocean

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<v Speaker 3>from overlooming machinery and equipment and all of that. We

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<v Speaker 3>all are getting a lesson if you're watching the news

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<v Speaker 3>in how this type of like.

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<v Speaker 1>Water search works. And so I feel like.

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<v Speaker 3>The way the money that is being spent to find

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<v Speaker 3>these people in fact applies posted. Can y'all please look

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<v Speaker 3>for these missing children with the same intensity. And so

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people feel like we're always talking about

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<v Speaker 3>race or we're always talking about classism, but it has

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<v Speaker 3>to be said because there is a disparity.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a disparity when we have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Situation where you can see how much they're doing to

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<v Speaker 3>find these people and yet somebody could go missing today

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<v Speaker 3>or tomorrow, people, sex, traffic, all types of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the same energy. So I think I agree

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<v Speaker 3>that keep the same energy off the water, on the water,

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<v Speaker 3>in the water, under the water around town, in the hood,

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<v Speaker 3>keep the same energy, use the resources. Not just for

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<v Speaker 3>the white people that went to the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 3>ocean on some elective stuff. They chose to do that. Please,

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<v Speaker 3>there are people out here who are missing, more harms

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<v Speaker 3>or that need help and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Not choose to be in those situations.

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<v Speaker 2>You're one hundred percent right, man.

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<v Speaker 4>So my prayers go out to the families you know,

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<v Speaker 4>of those things, and it also goes out to the

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<v Speaker 4>families of, like you said, those who have been missing,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, all kids who've been missing for years that

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<v Speaker 4>haven't gotten the same level of you know, concern, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because for whatever reason, they don't believe it's that valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and you know what, there was a video.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it a few days ago, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>go pull it up and hopefully we can put it

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<v Speaker 3>in this clip. I forget which state it's from, but

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<v Speaker 3>all these young people have gone missing in X amount

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<v Speaker 3>of time, So it was like over the last year

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<v Speaker 3>or so, all these people have gone missing. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of young people. And the reporter says, however,

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<v Speaker 3>the sheriff for the police basically in the town, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want people to be alarmed because even though they

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<v Speaker 3>said they didn't have most of the pictures, most of

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<v Speaker 3>the faces, they don't even have.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't even put their pictures up.

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<v Speaker 3>They was running it, running in and it was like

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<v Speaker 3>lots and lots of young people. They said, while we

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<v Speaker 3>make we don't have all the pictures and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry. Most of the people are runaways.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you if you don't even have the picture,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you know that they are runaways? And I

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<v Speaker 3>said that is with a dog whistle or what you

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<v Speaker 3>call it, aka black and brown, that's what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>It means they black and brown. They've already decided moving

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<v Speaker 3>on age ow aj Owens was shot by her neighbor

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<v Speaker 3>after the neighbor was menacing her children. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 3>neighbor threw skates at the children, rollerblades at the children

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<v Speaker 3>for playing in.

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<v Speaker 1>A nearby.

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<v Speaker 3>Open field that is common area for everybody in their community.

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<v Speaker 3>But this woman, Susan Larenz. She is one of those

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<v Speaker 3>Karens that believes that the field and every damn thing

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<v Speaker 3>else she owns it, and nobody could do anything unless

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<v Speaker 3>she sells them that they can. Several reports of people

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<v Speaker 3>are saying from the community that this happens frequently and

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<v Speaker 3>that she basically is constantly harassing children. She has had

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<v Speaker 3>an encounter in the past with aj Owens over her children.

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<v Speaker 3>And on this particular day, this is in Okalla, Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>for people who may not know most of you know

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<v Speaker 3>about it, but they're in Ocala, Florida, and the young

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<v Speaker 3>man AJ's son left his tablet outside and he was

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<v Speaker 3>going back to look for it after all the kids

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<v Speaker 3>have been called in to go homes end of the

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<v Speaker 3>play day and he was looking for his tablet. When

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<v Speaker 3>he went back to the area, Susan Lorenz was outside

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<v Speaker 3>with the tablet in his hand. He asked her to

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<v Speaker 3>give him the tablet back.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>They went back and forth. She threw skates at him

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<v Speaker 3>and hit the young man somewhere on his body, and

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<v Speaker 3>then she told him you can go and get your

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<v Speaker 3>mother and tell your mother and bring your mother back

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. So he went and got his mother. AJ

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<v Speaker 3>goes back. She knocks on the door, telling the lady basically,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like, what the hell is wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Why do you keep messing with my son? I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously we were in theater, know what she said. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going by what I assumed, because I know

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<v Speaker 3>what I would have been saying. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>whether or not she was saying it the way I

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<v Speaker 3>would have been saying it, because I know what I

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<v Speaker 3>would have been doing, acting like somebody whose child just

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<v Speaker 3>got hit by a woman that I already have told

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<v Speaker 3>you ten five times stop messing with my children, and

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<v Speaker 3>you don't stop. So now I'm coming to your house

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<v Speaker 3>to let you know that you got a problem with

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<v Speaker 3>my kids, you need to have the problem with me,

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<v Speaker 3>right So that's a natural thing. And again nobody said.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know exactly what the words were that she said.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just filling in because I don't want anybody to

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<v Speaker 3>think that we somehow are sitting here like we dumb

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<v Speaker 3>and don't know that she didn't go over there.

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<v Speaker 1>And go hi, miss Susan. No, you think you could

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<v Speaker 1>know she's a black woman.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure she went to defend her children, However, she

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<v Speaker 3>had no intention of going over there to kill the

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<v Speaker 3>lady because she didn't bring a gun or weapon or

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<v Speaker 3>anything with her. The woman who was inside of her

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<v Speaker 3>house with a bolt lock on shot through the door

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<v Speaker 3>and killed aj Owens. Now here's a problem with these

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<v Speaker 3>this thing. So first of all, let me just make

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<v Speaker 3>sure I say this so I don't forget on July.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is June.

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<v Speaker 3>On June thirtieth, On June thirtieth, the state's attorney from

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<v Speaker 3>Akyle of Florida, who was responsible for trying this case

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<v Speaker 3>and getting justice for aj Owen's family, right, he will

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<v Speaker 3>announce whether or not the charges will.

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<v Speaker 1>Be increased from manslaughter to murder.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, remember they let out go home based upon stand

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<v Speaker 3>your ground, the standard ground law, and her claim of

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<v Speaker 3>self defense. So they let her go home after they

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<v Speaker 3>questioned her for a while. Then they had to bring

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<v Speaker 3>up back because the whole everybody, all of America and

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<v Speaker 3>probably some other countries combined, went crazy about the situation

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<v Speaker 3>her family. They did everything they need to do. Shout

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<v Speaker 3>out to A Takima who has been one of the

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<v Speaker 3>organizers and also our girl Christy Henderson. They have been

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<v Speaker 3>organizing all the efforts and keeping people engaged in this.

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<v Speaker 3>You had celebrities, you had everybody, common man to the whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>to the most far land away saying put that so

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<v Speaker 3>and so in jail, lock up, and so she was arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this is why we're talking about this.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I'm saying about increasing the charges for manslaughter

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<v Speaker 3>because manslaughter was given to her at one point. But

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<v Speaker 3>there is more information that has come forward, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>based upon a fifteen page maybe more, maybe two or

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<v Speaker 3>three pages less arrest record. So it is the report

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<v Speaker 3>from the investigating officer who's also I guess he was

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<v Speaker 3>there to arrest her the second time. I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>know all of that, but I know he got a

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<v Speaker 3>report and it is a full account from the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>until the end of everything that happened the first time

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<v Speaker 3>she was arrested. Second time was she said she let

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<v Speaker 3>them see her phone to look at the iCloud for

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<v Speaker 3>the camera footage, all of that. Now, here's important details.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one, I mean, these are things that stood out

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<v Speaker 3>to me. That stood out to me. Number One, she

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<v Speaker 3>says that she bought the gun and when they.

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<v Speaker 1>Went out her home they found it was more than one.

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<v Speaker 3>What she did say, looking at the garbage pail in

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<v Speaker 3>I think in her bedroom, you'll find probably another gun

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<v Speaker 3>in there. So they did go in there and they

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<v Speaker 3>found that she had a few guns in her bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>She says she bought the weapon for the weapons for agent.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what she said. She bought the weapons for agent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what she said. So that stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 4>One, what eve moved a little past just regular murder.

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<v Speaker 2>But keep talking.

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<v Speaker 3>Two, they left her in the car for two hours,

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<v Speaker 3>this officer. So obviously the reason why I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know who's arresting and who's whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 3>is because the first officer must have arrested her. And

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<v Speaker 3>then this officer says he showed up and he saw

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<v Speaker 3>a light in the car, and so he went over

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<v Speaker 3>and asked that she have a cell phone, and she

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<v Speaker 3>says she don't know, and then they searched her and

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<v Speaker 3>found the cell phone, and she had been in the

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<v Speaker 3>car for two hours with her cell phone under arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's what I will say. That is not It

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<v Speaker 1>is not.

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say unlikely, but you're right, it's uncommon, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's not uncommon that sometimes you still have some of

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<v Speaker 3>your possession until they get you to this precinct where

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 3>they search you and they take all kinds of things, Jujerry,

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 3>your shoelaces, yeah, this year, that and the third.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's just put that out there.

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<v Speaker 3>But they generally don't they don't leave you with your

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 3>cell phone for two hours. Okay, So she was sitting

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 3>in the car for two hours. He saw the light,

0:26:21.320 --> 0:26:25.760
<v Speaker 3>he and he mentions it without reason. I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say, he didn't tell He didn't tell you that

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 3>the sky happened to be turning purple on this side.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:35.399
<v Speaker 3>He didn't say she was crying, she was this, and

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 3>that he tells you for a reason that her cell

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:42.359
<v Speaker 3>phone went off and he took it from her and

0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 3>you and booked it as evidence. Then, five six seven

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<v Speaker 3>pages later in his report, he mentions that when they

0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 3>bought her in for questioning, and they asked to see

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 3>the footage of the two cameras outside.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Her house, because they asked her for when.

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 3>They wanted to see the footage for the two cameras

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 3>outside her house, he says, she first said no. They

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 3>went back and forth, and then finally she decided to

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.439
<v Speaker 3>unlock her phone to let them look at the footage.

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<v Speaker 3>So pause, go back to the time that this incident

0:27:18.320 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 3>is happening. She's being arrested. There were mothers, Like there

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<v Speaker 3>was times like eight forty six and you know, nine

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<v Speaker 3>oh two and eight something. So all of this from

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 3>the incident, like when the phone calls first came in,

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Like I was seeing times like eight forty six over here.

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Nine oh two was like when they probably arrived and

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.520
<v Speaker 3>had her in the car. So all of this is

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<v Speaker 3>in the eight forty, eight thirty or let's say eight

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<v Speaker 3>to ten time frames.

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<v Speaker 1>Right the last.

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<v Speaker 3>Video when she showed them her videos of the surveillance camera.

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>The last video was at eight forty so she.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Was on her phone for that two hours deleting.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 1>From her camera.

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Wow, there's other stuff, but we got other things to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna rest my.

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 2>That's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, first of all, I don't understand how

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 4>it took them so long to really arrest in charge

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 4>and that. So that just based off that. If you knew,

0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm trying to figure out.

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>What are the police doing.

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>In this town?

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 3>The investigative officer doesn't it doesn't work on the weekends.

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Or on the like, that's just crazy to me, and

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that he'd be back in two days. They told them

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not around for a few days.

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I'm just trying to That's crazy to me

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 4>is that you did all of that, You got a hold,

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 4>You have statements that you made that shows how you

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 4>were so negligent the police. When I say you how

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 4>the police was so negligent and their investigation and the

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 4>procedures that they took they carried out like you've seen

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 4>her doing all these things like you can like it's documented,

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 4>like when when you read those statements that they made,

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 4>we basically saying that this shit might be premeditated murder.

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, that's why I said I rested my

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 3>case because I could go on. I could go on

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 3>to when she says the door. They asked her, did Susan,

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 3>did AJ twist your door.

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Knob or anything? She says, no, she was just banging

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>on the door.

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 3>But you had a new bolt lock that the owner

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>of the property had a new bolt lock installed in

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 3>her house not long ago, so she was you would saying,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 3>so long story short, Like I said, I rested my

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 3>case on it because just with that little bit of information,

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:57.480
<v Speaker 3>along the state's attorney should be raising those charges, and

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 3>so on the thirtieth he's gonna announce it. And all

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 3>leading up to the thirtieth, the local organizers in O'calla

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>will be holding different rallies. They will be protesting, they'll

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 3>be organizing, they'll be doing vigils. I'm going to join

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 3>them until freedom will be joining them throughout the week

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>for some of the activities. And so, folks, you should

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 3>watch out and figure out how you can be supportive

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 3>and make sure you lift your voices because you got

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 3>two days from now when you're seeing this show, until

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 3>the thirtieth, when the State's Attorney in Okalla, Florida will

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>announce whether or not he will increase the charges from

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>manslaughter to murder for the murder of aj Owens by

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Susan Lorenz.

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And so in the next.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of days, tear it up, you know, use your

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 3>social media and make your phone calls.

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Make sure your voice is heard.

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just a.

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<v Speaker 4>Lot, man, It's terrible, man. You know, once again, my

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 4>Candolas to the family. You know, I don't this system

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 4>America is crazy, man, Like when every time I hear

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 4>shit like this, you know, it's just it's mind boggling

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 4>to me, Like.

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>It's literally literally literally mind boggling.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 4>But this is where we live, man, this is how

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 4>our justice system has always treated, you know, us. So

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 4>it's even though it's not something that's uncommon or new

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 4>to me, it still doesn't feel good.

0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not right. I'm not jaded to the point.

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm not like I'm always outraged and confused at how

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 4>you know, a justice system on any system that's supposed

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 4>to be built on righteousness, constantly intentionally gets it wrong when.

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>It comes to us.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they overcharge black folks all the time, and they're

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 3>trying to undercharge a white woman for killing a black

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.959
<v Speaker 3>woman because the children was playing in the yard and

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>the lady thinks she owned everything. I saw a video

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 3>of a Karen inside of a man's house upstairs in

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 3>his house.

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>She's gonna tell him what he can and can I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, We're gonna find a way to truncate this particular

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 3>topic into five minutes. So you know, the last few months,

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 3>we have intentionally not talked about the Tory Lane situation

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 3>and Tory lanees and Meg thee Stallion. We have intentionally

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 3>not talked about it. Because I know for me and

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you but sometimes you don't really care.

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>But I know for me.

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that are very, very very conscious

0:32:53.200 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 3>of is when certain topics become divisive and people it

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 3>starts to be very clear that black folks are fighting

0:33:05.680 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>back and forth on the internet. I don't like to

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>participate in that. So when I make a statement about something,

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I said what I said. If I changed my mind,

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 3>I'll come back and say that. And if I think

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 3>I need to double down, I might do that. But

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I tried not to be a part of a constant

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 3>bickering back and forth with black people. And all of

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 3>us is fighting because we got enough damn exposure of

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 3>our issues and we just don't need that. And this

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 3>situation is extremely divisive even fright now. Of course, friends

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 3>and family members, we talk about it offline all the time.

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>People call me, hey, what do you think about this?

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Did you see this? Did you see that? So the

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>last time that we kind of discussed it, and I'm

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 3>not even sure if we really discussed it or not,

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>was when he was convicted.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Right after I sat in the courtroom.

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:59.080
<v Speaker 3>And what I continuously explain to people is that what

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 3>goes on in the court. I don't care how it's

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>articulated to you in on the best blog, whoever your

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 3>best blog or YouTuber is. What goes on in the

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 3>court is different from what we see when it comes

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:18.680
<v Speaker 3>to the news period. The way that the titles are

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 3>written for the stories from even your best reporters, the

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 3>people from freaking Robin Roberts, who we consider to be

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 3>a stellar journalist right she is.

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>She is an unscathed record of you.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 3>Know, providing people with true, fair and honest information. She

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 3>is not somebody I would consider to be an activist

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 3>or a radical activist in the social justice space, because

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>she certainly is for black women's health. But in the

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.120
<v Speaker 3>social justice space where I'm worried about, like is she's

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 3>saying things from this way or that way. I don't

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 3>see her as being super conservative that she's down with.

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I just see Robin Roberts as a flatline great.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Journalist, even when when when she says.

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Things it comes from a specific mindset. That's just human nature.

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>So if you if Robin Roberts is writing her titles

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>for stories herself, she's still gonna write it the way

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 3>that it sounds best to her and the way that

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 3>she thinks is gonna grab the attention of the public.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 3>That is not necessarily how the topic is being discussed

0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:39.920
<v Speaker 3>in court.

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>There's no there's no real sensationalism.

0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.720
<v Speaker 4>That's you know, that's that's part of media and media,

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 4>social media and media. They have to say certain things

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 4>that that peak your interests, that even may insinuate or anything,

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 4>even if it's not true. This insinuation and they put it,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 4>they frame it in a manner in which it does.

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 4>What they're saying is not wrong or right, but it

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 4>intrigues you. So it can mean so many different things.

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 4>So so that's what that's what media does. Like that's

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 4>what a lot of they do when they say, you know, clickbait.

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 4>A lot of some people overdo it. Some people utilize

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 4>their personal interests, but some people know the interests of

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.360
<v Speaker 4>people in general. So they make titles and they and

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 4>they base the story around a certain theme that they

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 4>know captures the ears in the eyes of the people.

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 4>But when you inside of a courtroom, they going by

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 4>that law, they.

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 3>Start getting into them, and then people start objecting and

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 3>they start narrowing information.

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 4>And the thing is, but you but you got two

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 4>different you got two different lawyers that's presenting their cases

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 4>and the same way that they do in the media.

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 4>So if you're a biased media, then you're gonna you're

0:36:57.239 --> 0:37:01.080
<v Speaker 4>gonna go with whoever you like the way they the

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:05.960
<v Speaker 4>prosecution just said, Oh, the prosecution, that's what happens.

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 2>What happened.

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:10.359
<v Speaker 4>And that's where they have judges, because the judge at

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 4>that point is.

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Going to pull out strictly.

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 1>The law exactly, and.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 2>A lot of facts in the law to go INtime.

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 3>If they are a good judge, if they're a good judge. Right,

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 3>and we understand that everything we're saying can be also

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.439
<v Speaker 3>skewed based upon whether or not you and the kangaroo court.

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 3>You're in a racist court, you in the whatever. But

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 3>the jurors for the most part, are able to when

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 3>they're deliberating and when they're going through whatever, they are

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 3>going through evidence that is very very specific. Right, they

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 3>heard they hit the media for the most part, unless

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 3>they've been sequested, but they did in this case.

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>They were not. They hear the media. They hear a way.

0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 3>The defense asked the question, the way to prosecute and

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.799
<v Speaker 3>move things around. Now they see the judge's motion, they

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 3>pay attention all that they watched what's going on, but

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:11.839
<v Speaker 3>that evidence isn't what they come back to when it's

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:17.080
<v Speaker 3>time to deliberate it. So now that I sat there

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>right and I heard and saw, so I already knew

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 3>that it was a very slim chance, a slim chance

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:31.799
<v Speaker 3>that Tory Lanez would be acquitted acquit it.

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:32.720
<v Speaker 1>It was very slim.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:36.399
<v Speaker 3>It's possible, because anything can happen, but it was very

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 3>slim based upon the little bit of stuff. And then

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 3>of course we had people in the courtroom on a

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 3>regular basis, folks, was there almost on a daily basis

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 3>reporting about some of the stuff that was happening some people,

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:51.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, until freedom people. So that's that's how I felt,

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 3>but again didn't know, chose not to speak on it.

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Then the results are what they are, which was very

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 3>much in line with what we know. Okay, so that's

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:05.520
<v Speaker 3>that since then, this is what I've been trying to do.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:12.399
<v Speaker 3>Go First, they try to accuse the judge of misconduct.

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 3>This judge, I sat there. He's a black man. Now,

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 3>I know some judges that ain't shit that this man

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 3>was sitting up there and the only thing the judge

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 3>was doing, he was a real, real, like black man,

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 3>like he's just like, now that ain't happening. Okay, let's

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 3>hear that. I understand exactly what she's saying. Don't worry,

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.439
<v Speaker 3>you don't need to repeat. I don't need no help.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 3>We clear moving on. He was very all the time.

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 3>Then they Okay, so first they tried that, then they

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:55.080
<v Speaker 3>tried this whole thing about ineffective counsel. So they're saying

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 3>the lawyers didn't do a good job. So I never

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 3>really I mean no, no, I've read that his lawyer

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.440
<v Speaker 3>in the mess that he was trying to do in

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 3>court wasn't making sense.

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>So I agreed with that.

0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 3>But now we know why because the lawyer that presented

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 3>the case in court was not his original lawyer who

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 3>was supposed to be there to defend him. The lawyer

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 3>who was supposed to be there was a woman. I

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 3>think her name is Sean Holly or something, Sean, I

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 3>know it's her first name. She was his original lawyer.

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 3>The second person, the man who actually defended him in court,

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:49.800
<v Speaker 3>was a person that they bought in because Sean attorney,

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Sean did not want to participate in trying to blame

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Kelsey for.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>The shooting.

0:40:59.840 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 3>She said she didn't think it was viable, and she said,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.760
<v Speaker 3>we need to go. You know, she said, you gotta.

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Get somebody else to do it. Yeah, that's what she said.

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 3>She said, you gotta get somebody else to do it,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 3>and she went and got or.

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>However, this other man came into it.

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:23.280
<v Speaker 3>And so the ineffective counsel question that is being raised

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 3>by his new attorneys is based upon the idea that

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:31.680
<v Speaker 3>this woman was compromised because Kelsey mentioned in her statement

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 3>that his lawyer was going to connect him for this

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 3>money that was supposed to be between the two of them,

0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 3>which is being called bribe money, right, and so Kelsey

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 3>mentions that. So the woman in her documentation, in her

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 3>letter to Tori, she said to him, I, first of all,

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm they're bringing up my name and some shit about

0:41:57.600 --> 0:42:00.000
<v Speaker 3>some money exchange and that never happened.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>And because of that, I don't feel comfortable.

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Also, I don't feel that this defense that you guys

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:12.280
<v Speaker 3>are trying to use about, you know, Kelsey being the shooter,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's a viable option.

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:18.760
<v Speaker 1>So either way, even and so the new.

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Lawyers is basically like, this is ineffective because one she

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 3>couldn't possibly prepare the man who ended up being the

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 3>defense attorney who you know, cross examined or whatever, Kelsey

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 3>and whatever on his on Tory Lane's bad, she saying.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 3>The new lawyers are saying because of the fact that

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 3>she briefed him and helped him prepare, if she didn't

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 3>feel confident in the strategy, she couldn't have possibly briefed

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 3>him properly. And if she felt like she was going

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 3>to be implicated later on in some question about whether

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 3>or not she was involved in a bribe exchange, then

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>she also was compromised and would not have been able

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 3>to present him with the best counsel because she was

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 3>protecting herself.

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:07.040
<v Speaker 1>That's their two points.

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'm gonna just say this and I'm totally and

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:13.080
<v Speaker 3>I have nothing else to say, even the way you

0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 3>look at it, the lawyer being involved in a bride

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>to shut somebody up for what, or moving to your

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 3>second option, which is that she just didn't think that

0:43:27.239 --> 0:43:29.839
<v Speaker 3>they were going She wasn't willing to participate in trying

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.040
<v Speaker 3>to blame somebody she knows did not shoot that girl.

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>So no matter how you look at it, I'm so confused.

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 4>I think for me, right. And I'm just gonna be

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 4>very clear. You know, I had I've had communication back

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 4>and forth with Tori about the situation. I've been vocal

0:43:52.719 --> 0:43:56.480
<v Speaker 4>about it on social media, you know. And I think

0:43:56.840 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 4>for me from the beginning, it just wasn't right. Right,

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 4>And when when you morally as a man, when we

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:05.960
<v Speaker 4>stand up as men, it's certain ship that's right. There's

0:44:05.960 --> 0:44:07.759
<v Speaker 4>certain things wrong. We've been in the streets. I've been

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 4>in the streets. I've been surrounded by the most notorious.

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 4>I've been surrounded by people who taking people's lives. I

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 4>have friends who have taken people's lives. I have friends

0:44:16.960 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 4>who have shot and done all types of things right,

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 4>and and and when I understand that those things are

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 4>they're not they're not good things. You know, the level

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 4>of violence and in things that I've been around my

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 4>whole life has not been good. And but there's levels

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.839
<v Speaker 4>of integrity and honor that even those people that people

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 4>say are the most notorious people that they've had, right,

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 4>there's levels of ship that. Okay, I was engaged with

0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 4>somebody who was in the streets. We had a beef.

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 4>This is how we were taught to handle it. We

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 4>dealt with how we dealt with it. I suffered the

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 4>consequences they suffered. The conference, current lives was lost. I

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 4>didn't want to take a li life. It was minds

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 4>over as I've been around those things, you know, and

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 4>men have been held themselves accountable with certain things, you know,

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 4>And I was never comfortable with just the way that

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 4>Tory's whole energy was in this situation, knowing that even

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 4>if you thought that Kelsey shot that woman the way

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 4>that you went about thought thought, I mean, I'm just

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm giving.

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I just want you to just hear his full either,

0:45:27.120 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 2>even if you if.

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 4>That was your stance that Kelsey did such and such

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 4>to the way that he went about piling on a

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 4>woman who everyone knows the shot was just wrong as

0:45:40.239 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 4>a man, it was morally it was something that integrity

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 4>didn't fit well with me. And that was always my

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 4>my my thing with it. I always I never thought

0:45:50.400 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 4>that Kelsey shot because it just never made sense to me.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 4>It never made sense to me that a woman who's

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 4>been somebody's best friend decided to all you over anight

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:04.560
<v Speaker 4>who's never been a street person and just decide that

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 4>she's gonna shoot and kill her best friend or attempt

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 4>to shoot.

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:11.160
<v Speaker 2>A over argument. It just never made sense to me.

0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 4>You know, it never made sense to me that a

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.400
<v Speaker 4>woman who was shot didn't know who the person was

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:20.040
<v Speaker 4>that shot her. Like I've never heard a person say

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 4>that person shot me and that person didn't shoot me,

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:24.240
<v Speaker 4>and when they knew.

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 2>The person that shot heim.

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 4>I also knew that I've never seen a victim get

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 4>shot go to court and say that person shot me

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 4>and a person beat the case. It's just those things

0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 4>I've never seen done right. So from the beginning, just

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 4>watching how this whole thing was played out.

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:42.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't watch jail on anybody.

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't, but I think as men, as black, especially

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.600
<v Speaker 4>as black men, especially in a hip hop community, we

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 4>gotta start holding ourselves more accountable for shit. We gotta

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 4>be we have to actually man up. It's certain shit

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.240
<v Speaker 4>we just can't be okay with. I can't call myself

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 4>a g and all of this shit and I'm co

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 4>signing that nigga shine a girl for any reason.

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I just can't.

0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot of dudes that I've seen do

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 4>it that I had levels of respect for, and it's

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:13.080
<v Speaker 4>just like for me, you know, to continue to put

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.120
<v Speaker 4>out any type of energy other than with fifty to

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 4>fifty said.

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Y'all apologize as a man. He said, damn.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 4>You know, first I thought this and I've seen her

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 4>line about this, But when I heard him on the tape, toe, oh,

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 4>I know what this is, you know, and I had

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.400
<v Speaker 4>to apologize as a man for the jokes and all

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 4>this shit. I mean, and I think, I think, you know,

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 4>at some point Tory is gonna have to live with

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 4>a level of honor, some level of.

0:47:36.760 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Integrity and just be like and I don't want to. Man.

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:41.439
<v Speaker 4>I understand he finds for his freedom and they're gonna

0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 4>do what he gotta do. You know, these lawyers are

0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 4>just basically utilizing and taking his money.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Because that's what the lady was doing.

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.920
<v Speaker 4>What's going on is I've been incarcerated, and I know

0:47:53.960 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 4>what ineffective assistance a council. Ineffectiveness as a counsel is

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 4>not that you have a bad strategy, right In effect

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 4>sens the council means that you didn't object to certain

0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 4>shit that was supposed to be objected to, You didn't

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.800
<v Speaker 4>present certain evidence that you were supposed to not because

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:11.880
<v Speaker 4>your strategy failed. Your lawyer was a bad lawyer ineffective.

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.319
<v Speaker 4>It's bad lawyers everywhere, right, So he's fighting what he

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 4>has to fight, and these lawyers know that there's really

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 4>nothing they could do, but he's holding onto anything.

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.800
<v Speaker 2>So they drained him for the little bit of money

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:24.320
<v Speaker 2>he has.

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 4>You know, from the beginning, what I told that man

0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:28.880
<v Speaker 4>to do, you know, when we had our carge. Yo,

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what's going on, but I just know

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 4>the way you're going about this ain't right as a man,

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 4>you know what I'm saying. So I don't wish any

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 4>harm on that man, you know. And he's gonna continue

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 4>to fight. They're gonna fight, They're gonna say whatever they

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.399
<v Speaker 4>have to do, and a man wants his freedom back.

0:48:43.760 --> 0:48:48.360
<v Speaker 4>But I think at some point, not only just Tory,

0:48:49.560 --> 0:48:53.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, but I think the industry in general, the

0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 4>way that we deal with accountability as men and doing

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:02.680
<v Speaker 4>shit that's just bad and just wrong. Like everybody was

0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:06.240
<v Speaker 4>so like I was. I love the fact that people

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:11.839
<v Speaker 4>weren't okay with with what's his name, k so Cyrus,

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 4>whatever his names. Yeah, I'm saying, but I love the

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 4>fact that people was like, Yo, that's some bullshit you did.

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 4>We're gonna hold you accountable. That's that's something that's some

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 4>sucker ship. You know what I'm saying. But I don't

0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:27.080
<v Speaker 4>understand why we're not saying it's some sucking ship that

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.120
<v Speaker 4>a nigga shot a woman, and continue and we continue

0:49:30.160 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 4>to go back and forth and try to make the

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:34.399
<v Speaker 4>man shot the woman. This is what the course said,

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:37.479
<v Speaker 4>like we we stop playing this game. We're not gonna

0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 4>keep playing a game. We know what happened.

0:49:39.360 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 2>You see, we literally watched all of this. We see

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:44.719
<v Speaker 2>what Kelsey got an old statement out. You know what

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that.

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 4>You see, we know what happened in that any street

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:49.880
<v Speaker 4>nigga knows real street.

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Let's stop sitting here playing this game.

0:49:52.880 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 4>You know what I hope is that Toy is dealing

0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 4>with you know, maybe he's getting some religion in there,

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 4>he's getting in faith, whatever he needs to do so

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:01.120
<v Speaker 4>when he.

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 2>Comes home that he started carrying himself different.

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying, as a man, we just

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:09.040
<v Speaker 4>gotta be just gonna start moving better as men. And

0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, and I'm talking about myself as general, like

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 4>we just can't peacefully coexist.

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:19.040
<v Speaker 2>With suckershit that we know is sucker shit. Let it go, I.

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Feel like I feel like in this particular situation, the

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 3>approach and the reason why the first thing I mentioned

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was them trying to go after the judge to me

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 3>and I'm and again, like you said, fight with whatever

0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:38.960
<v Speaker 3>you have.

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.680
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a good strategy because you.

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Didn't really have a true claim of anything about this

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:53.120
<v Speaker 3>judge being a bias or whatever they were trying to use.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You didn't really have a true claim for that. And

0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:59.440
<v Speaker 3>so now what you have done is made the judge

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 3>feeling for you nothing.

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Like now you put the judge, You put.

0:51:04.360 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 3>The judge, You put the judge in question to the

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 3>point where, even though nothing has happened, the appeals board

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 3>or whomever, they are not going to look at it.

0:51:16.680 --> 0:51:21.720
<v Speaker 3>Nobody's doing, not the appeal excuse me, whatever board gets

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:25.960
<v Speaker 3>to review the issues with judges. They haven't found the

0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 3>misconduct on behalf.

0:51:27.160 --> 0:51:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Of the judge.

0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:33.359
<v Speaker 3>Right, So now the judge, even though he doesn't have

0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:35.840
<v Speaker 3>any like you know, bad.

0:51:35.719 --> 0:51:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Mark on his report card, is still.

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 3>Something in his file that says someone tried, so he

0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 3>still has a stain in terms of when you look

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 3>at it, you will at least see that someone else

0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.839
<v Speaker 3>accused him of this in the past, whether or not

0:51:52.920 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 3>they were successful, the accusation is there. So now human

0:51:57.320 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 3>instinct is that instead of you like, Judge, please don't

0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>you know, like he said at first, you know, please

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.880
<v Speaker 3>don't ruin my life or whatever whatever, all of that

0:52:08.920 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 3>stuff cool, but now you put the man's credibility in jeopardy,

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.080
<v Speaker 3>and then you think that he's not gonna I'm not

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:18.240
<v Speaker 3>saying that that Judge is gone because I really, honestly

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 3>don't think that Judge is gonna be all super hard handed.

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I think he's just gonna give whatever he already was

0:52:24.520 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna give from when he first knew this young man

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:27.440
<v Speaker 3>is gonna get convinced.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would you put a musician to where where he now.

0:52:30.280 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 3>He can Now he can't, he even says. He even

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.720
<v Speaker 3>says because another thing, And this is why I can't

0:52:37.760 --> 0:52:41.799
<v Speaker 3>stand about social media. Oh, it's not social media. It's

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 3>not social media. It's people that don't read. Because if

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:50.240
<v Speaker 3>you read the documents and the report instead of going

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 3>to make a comment so fast, you will find that

0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:57.839
<v Speaker 3>the reason why the records are public because people were like, oh,

0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 3>this is misconduct, it's this and read it says in

0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the first few lines that the way that this information

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 3>came forward is because Tory agreed to it in order

0:53:11.200 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 3>to release records that shows ineffective counsel.

0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So he had to prove that the that.

0:53:18.320 --> 0:53:23.399
<v Speaker 3>The the lawyer knew about, you know, Chelsey's statements that

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:25.800
<v Speaker 3>she might have had something to do with the bribe,

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 3>and that the lawyer was going to help to to

0:53:30.120 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 3>to brief the new lawyer. They had to show all

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 3>of that. So they had to make these documents available

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:41.319
<v Speaker 3>the judge despite everything else that's going on all the way,

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.759
<v Speaker 3>so that the judge may feel says.

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>To Tory in court, you sure you want to do this?

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:48.759
<v Speaker 1>You're sure you.

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Want to open these documents because there are things in

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:54.560
<v Speaker 3>the The judge tells him, there are things in the

0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 3>documents that's not so favorable, and there's gonna be a

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.080
<v Speaker 3>lot of eyeballs on this, So are you sure you

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:01.400
<v Speaker 3>want to do it? Tory asked him, can you repeat

0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 3>that again so he could understand the man.

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:05.799
<v Speaker 1>Repeats it, he speaks to his lawyer, His.

0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Lawyers probably like bro I told we already told you.

0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 3>We ain't got a lot to work.

0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>It's all we got. We gonna just need you to

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:14.440
<v Speaker 2>keep paying dropping that money.

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Man. It's really just sad, you know. And I pray

0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:19.759
<v Speaker 4>for him because, like I said, I say all the time,

0:54:19.760 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 4>I don't wish jail on nobody. I don't want the

0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:21.919
<v Speaker 4>man in jail.

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:24.399
<v Speaker 3>I wish the man would have never even My thing

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 3>is the reason why we keep saying all of this

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 3>is because narcissism and other things that people suffer from,

0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.160
<v Speaker 3>and we all have parts of it, our egos, we

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:37.200
<v Speaker 3>all suffer from it. Put him in a situation where

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 3>he didn't understand the severity of it. He thought that

0:54:40.320 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 3>he could just because she was sleeping with him and

0:54:42.960 --> 0:54:43.600
<v Speaker 3>it was a friend.

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:45.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was first with the friend.

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 3>He knew all of the things, the little inner quiet

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.799
<v Speaker 3>details that we may not that may not you know,

0:54:53.120 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 3>we may not even know, but we know enough to

0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:58.520
<v Speaker 3>know that Meg wasn't in the best situation. And I

0:54:58.719 --> 0:55:01.400
<v Speaker 3>don't I'm talking about her own choices. Put her in

0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 3>a funky situation with a friend and a dude and

0:55:04.200 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 3>the this, and she was, you know, getting low in

0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:09.120
<v Speaker 3>the night with a bathing suit on somewhere she this

0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:12.319
<v Speaker 3>and it was fighting and arguing, and then all of

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.080
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't good for her, and he knew that he

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:18.240
<v Speaker 3>tried to pray on it play and I'm using pray

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 3>for a reason on that, and thought that he could

0:55:21.280 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 3>just go and walking in and do whatever he wanted

0:55:24.480 --> 0:55:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to do instead of from day one just being humble

0:55:27.280 --> 0:55:29.600
<v Speaker 3>about all of it. So it could have because she

0:55:29.640 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't even want the situation to end up where it is.

0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 3>And then beyond that, I believe that if he would

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 3>have made the right cause to the right people and

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 3>had the right attitude, they would have tried to figure

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.400
<v Speaker 3>out a way to make the situation.

0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Go away or for him to do a little bit

0:55:44.480 --> 0:55:45.279
<v Speaker 1>of whatever time.

0:55:45.360 --> 0:55:48.239
<v Speaker 3>Because obviously, well I'm not gonna say obviously, but I

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.720
<v Speaker 3>don't believe that the man was dead trying to shoot

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 3>at her. I think he was again going with this

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 3>ego thing and the type of personality shooting at the ground,

0:55:56.800 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 3>and the bullets ricocheted, the little fragments ricoestrat ricocheted into

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:04.920
<v Speaker 3>her feet, and I think somebody actually might have been okay,

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Like not saying they would have been okay with it,

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 3>but they kind of would have been like, all right,

0:56:08.000 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, that was stupid, So we gotta get some

0:56:10.200 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 3>stuff for the gun, and the shooting not in the

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 3>thing and or whatever. But we're not gonna put you

0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:18.320
<v Speaker 3>in jail for charges that have to do with the

0:56:18.600 --> 0:56:21.200
<v Speaker 3>like Damn, they're almost about to kill somebody.

0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:26.040
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just so fucked up. And you're right, this.

0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Is an all fucked up situation. Man. I just want

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:29.880
<v Speaker 2>this to be served as.

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:34.800
<v Speaker 4>A learning, learning experience to men, especially black men in

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:35.760
<v Speaker 4>this industry.

0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:36.320
<v Speaker 2>In the streets.

0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 4>Man, we just have to be We have to not

0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:42.240
<v Speaker 4>allow our emotions to supersede our intelligence. We can't allow

0:56:42.280 --> 0:56:44.279
<v Speaker 4>our egos to supersede our intelligence.

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:46.160
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we gotta we have to.

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.120
<v Speaker 4>We have to be a lot more conscious and be

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.839
<v Speaker 4>a lot and deal with a lot more integrity and

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:55.479
<v Speaker 4>not allow people anything to push you to the next level.

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 4>I was having this conversation with my nephew yesterday. I

0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.920
<v Speaker 4>was like, anytime that somebody does something that can control

0:57:01.000 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 4>your actions, then they control you.

0:57:03.160 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 4>If they anything, they can say or do something to

0:57:06.160 --> 0:57:08.720
<v Speaker 4>make you do something, then they actually in the control.

0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 4>You don't have the control. I don't care how tough

0:57:11.320 --> 0:57:13.000
<v Speaker 4>you think you are. If this person can say your

0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 4>old one and they know you're gonna do something, then

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 4>they can put you in a trick bag anytime. You

0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 4>can never allow anybody to dictate your actions.

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:21.880 --> 0:57:24.400
<v Speaker 3>We that's something for all of us to learn, because

0:57:24.440 --> 0:57:26.400
<v Speaker 3>that's a deep blessing. And I have to learn it

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.240
<v Speaker 3>because I get two.

0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 4>It is, I mean, it's not easy. Self mastery is

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that's what we have to seek. You know,

0:57:35.120 --> 0:57:38.120
<v Speaker 4>as as we grow older as self mastery, you know,

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:42.440
<v Speaker 4>every day I find myself growing and certain shit that

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.520
<v Speaker 4>I used to ready to kill and die, ab out

0:57:45.600 --> 0:57:46.080
<v Speaker 4>and this and that.

0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I don't even care.

0:57:47.360 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 4>About that, shiite, Like, like what you can I don't

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 4>even your mother, Remember we used to your mother, your mother.

0:57:54.080 --> 0:57:56.560
<v Speaker 4>If somebody say your mother, you was ready to die

0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:58.760
<v Speaker 4>about that? You ready to do everything?

0:57:59.320 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't care.

0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:00.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't even know what?

0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:03.560
<v Speaker 2>Kid? You say? What does that do? Right?

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 4>The things that we hold value to it that we've

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 4>given some level of you know, of value and and

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:15.240
<v Speaker 4>levels of superiority in our life don't even matter, you know.

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 4>And once you start, when you have self mastered, that's

0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:22.880
<v Speaker 4>why you see the most successful people are calm, right,

0:58:22.960 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 4>They just relaxed. They don't overreact, they don't they don't

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:31.600
<v Speaker 4>their emotions come out when it's it's strategic, you know,

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.720
<v Speaker 4>when they want to inflict the emotion on you, when

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.240
<v Speaker 4>they want you to feel something, they bring those emotions up,

0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 4>but they don't allow anything and the circumstances around them

0:58:41.160 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 4>to dictate their emotions. They even kill they thinking it's

0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:48.040
<v Speaker 4>it's it's always thought processes, you know. And I said,

0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I want us our young men. You know, we're talking

0:58:50.000 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 4>about violence in our communities. That's what it is. It's emotions.

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.680
<v Speaker 4>It's us not being emotionally intelligent.

0:58:56.760 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Man. So that's all I want. Man, Let's let's deal.

0:59:00.400 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 4>With emotional intelligence so that you know that brings me

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:15.760
<v Speaker 4>to my I don't get it. I posted something on Instagram.

0:59:16.160 --> 0:59:21.120
<v Speaker 4>There was an officer who you know, smacked a young

0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:25.480
<v Speaker 4>man and he's it seems like he's in the process

0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 4>room and the officer just.

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Smacks him in the face.

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:34.560
<v Speaker 4>They had just he smacks him, throws him around and

0:59:34.600 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 4>they come jump on him and and it was just it.

0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Was it's just very volatile situation.

0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:42.479
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, you know, this is the people

0:59:42.480 --> 0:59:45.600
<v Speaker 4>that's supposed to protect and serve us, and they believe

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 4>that you could just put your hands on the civilia

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 4>and this manner and it's just okay, and it's just not.

0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Huh, they have right. And I was listening to people.

0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:00.480
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people in my comments kind of could me,

1:00:00.480 --> 1:00:02.560
<v Speaker 4>and people was like, yeah, you know, it was his

1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 4>attitude that he needed to be humbled. Now mind you,

1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:15.200
<v Speaker 4>mind you there's no audio, right, this is literally.

1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:21.560
<v Speaker 2>Video. So all they see the man do is pull

1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:24.080
<v Speaker 2>his pants up. The over success on him.

1:00:24.080 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 4>There's some level of dialogue, but all I didn't see

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.400
<v Speaker 4>the man put his hands up. I didn't even see

1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:33.120
<v Speaker 4>him getting in a fighting stance, like more more than

1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.439
<v Speaker 4>likely when you inside those states, they take your belt off,

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 4>so you don't have a belt. He's pulling his pants up.

1:00:38.160 --> 1:00:40.360
<v Speaker 4>I ain't see one leg go before the other, the

1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:42.720
<v Speaker 4>other one to the back, because I know when you

1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:44.840
<v Speaker 4>pull your pants up, when you get in a fighting stance,

1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 4>you get one foot is in front, one is in back.

1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 4>He didn't move in that man, he just pulled his

1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:53.120
<v Speaker 4>pants up. I don't know what he was saying when

1:00:53.120 --> 1:00:57.200
<v Speaker 4>he was smack. He was so taken off guard by

1:00:57.240 --> 1:01:02.080
<v Speaker 4>the smack that I don't even understand how people made

1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 4>an assessment that this man was arrogant or saying something

1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:11.919
<v Speaker 4>that was wrong. Right is right, No, but that we're

1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:17.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna get there with the fact that people don't understand that,

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:21.600
<v Speaker 4>and I'm okay with There needs to be level of humbling, right,

1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:22.960
<v Speaker 4>because if me.

1:01:22.920 --> 1:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>And my son get into a thing and my son

1:01:25.000 --> 1:01:26.240
<v Speaker 2>jumps up in my face.

1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:29.680
<v Speaker 4>I'mna whoop his ass, but I'm gonna let him he

1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:32.439
<v Speaker 4>can fight me back. I'm gonna show if I'm trying

1:01:32.440 --> 1:01:35.160
<v Speaker 4>to humble you, right, if I'm trying to show you

1:01:35.280 --> 1:01:37.360
<v Speaker 4>that there's a difference between me and you and you

1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:40.200
<v Speaker 4>a kid and I'm a man, it's because I'm showing

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.840
<v Speaker 4>you that I can whip your ass, and I'm gonna

1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:47.240
<v Speaker 4>give you the opportunity to whip my ass back. You

1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:51.080
<v Speaker 4>can't humble somebody with the playing field ain't level, right,

1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:53.160
<v Speaker 4>because you're just a punk. It's like if you tie

1:01:53.200 --> 1:01:55.400
<v Speaker 4>my hands behind my back and you beating me, you're

1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:58.400
<v Speaker 4>not teaching me a lesson. You're not making me feel

1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:01.200
<v Speaker 4>like I need to be humble. No, you're showing me

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:04.840
<v Speaker 4>that I'm at a disadvantage and that you need an

1:02:04.840 --> 1:02:07.720
<v Speaker 4>advantage over me to impose your will over me. It

1:02:07.720 --> 1:02:11.400
<v Speaker 4>doesn't humble me. It makes me more angry, right, it

1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:16.920
<v Speaker 4>makes me that much more of a violent person. I

1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 4>was having this conversation yesterday while I got my kids

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:23.560
<v Speaker 4>at boxing. Shout out to my man Gabe over there

1:02:23.680 --> 1:02:30.200
<v Speaker 4>surviving forty one, and we was talking about the younger child, right,

1:02:31.560 --> 1:02:33.680
<v Speaker 4>and we were talking about how it always seems like

1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:39.919
<v Speaker 4>the younger child is more aggressive than the older children, and.

1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:44.200
<v Speaker 2>It's because the younger child has been picked on.

1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:47.920
<v Speaker 4>The older child has always imposed they will on a

1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:50.920
<v Speaker 4>younger child, so they have a level of animosity and

1:02:50.960 --> 1:02:54.440
<v Speaker 4>anger that they put out more than the older child.

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:55.280
<v Speaker 2>And getting picked on.

1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:58.240
<v Speaker 4>The older child is always imposing his will on a

1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.800
<v Speaker 4>smaller one. The younger one so young gonna always feel

1:03:00.800 --> 1:03:03.200
<v Speaker 4>like he gotta fight. Cassing always feel like he gotta

1:03:03.240 --> 1:03:04.040
<v Speaker 4>fight for his life.

1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:08.000
<v Speaker 4>Cameron is never coming in here like crying and mad.

1:03:08.440 --> 1:03:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Kensing is like leave me alone. He's fighting, He's angry,

1:03:11.280 --> 1:03:13.840
<v Speaker 4>and it comes because it's older brother. It feels like

1:03:13.840 --> 1:03:15.800
<v Speaker 4>he can posed his will on him. So he's not

1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:18.520
<v Speaker 4>teaching him a lesson, you just making him more aggressive.

1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:20.840
<v Speaker 4>And as they grow, you can sell that they more

1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:23.520
<v Speaker 4>aggressive than you are. You understand I'm saying. So that's

1:03:23.520 --> 1:03:26.680
<v Speaker 4>what happens in these situations with the police when the

1:03:26.720 --> 1:03:29.160
<v Speaker 4>police ain't taking If you want to prove a lesson,

1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:31.760
<v Speaker 4>take your badge or put your shit to the side

1:03:32.040 --> 1:03:34.040
<v Speaker 4>and take me in the room and whip my ass

1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:35.520
<v Speaker 4>like a man. I'm gonna have a level of respect

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<v Speaker 4>for you, but I'm not gonna respect you. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>teaching me no lesson by you imposing a will and

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<v Speaker 4>you utilizing If I swing back, now I got charges.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think you're punk.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I think is that there's no there's no respect, drawing,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no nothing that's being taught. So I'm completely I'm

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, I'm taken back by that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm completely taking back while people don't understand the

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<v Speaker 4>reality of an officer who is paid to protect and serve,

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<v Speaker 4>who's been trained, who are supposed to go beyond the logs,

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to have a level of de escalation or a

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<v Speaker 4>level of you know, humility, a level of.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that the average civilian doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you if you lower yourself to the civilian,

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<v Speaker 4>why the fuck we're paying you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are we paying again?

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<v Speaker 3>But the point is this, this is it is a

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<v Speaker 3>deeper point. It's actually illegal. That exactly it is you

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<v Speaker 3>are not supposed to respond to somebody's talking. So if

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<v Speaker 3>he said to you, man, fuck you, s M D.

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<v Speaker 3>Such and such such, you're supposed to be like, that's

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<v Speaker 3>why you're going to jail. Don't worry about it, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Put yourself over here, get your your things, your fingerprints taken.

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<v Speaker 3>The only time you can physically react is if the

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<v Speaker 3>person tries to attack you or makes you feel like.

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<v Speaker 1>Your life is in change. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>So slapping somebody and all of that is not the job.

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<v Speaker 3>The job does not have that in the description. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>there are laws that are to suggest the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you are the employee.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and you are the authoritarian to where you're supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to show a level of restraint that the other person doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>You're supposed to have a level of understanding that the

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<v Speaker 4>person that you're arresting doesn't. That's why we give you guns,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why they give you things, because they believe

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<v Speaker 4>that you of sound mind and you have a temperament

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<v Speaker 4>that makes you qualified. Right, you know so, But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the world we live in. We can go

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<v Speaker 4>on and on about other topics. You know, I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about something else. But you know what I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to talk. I wanted to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>You yeah, but you didn't do it, So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna leave it alone, you know, but shout out.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to shout out to the good Bishop T. D.

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<v Speaker 4>Jakes Man because he said he said women need to

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<v Speaker 4>stop trying to tell men how to be fathers because

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<v Speaker 4>they ain't never been one, and we ain't telling y'all

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<v Speaker 4>how to be mothers.

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<v Speaker 1>So on that second part is not true. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not true. No I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think yeah, because father, there are men who women

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<v Speaker 3>or men explained to women what they're supposed to do

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<v Speaker 3>for motherhood and this to that and the third I

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<v Speaker 3>was just telling you yesterday about how a man is

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<v Speaker 3>accusing a woman of all the problems that's happening with

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<v Speaker 3>her children, for what she shouldn't have done and where

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<v Speaker 3>she shouldn't have gone and what she shouldn't have done.

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<v Speaker 3>So people do it to everybody. But I agree with

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<v Speaker 3>you that women shouldn't tell men how to be fothers.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll have that discussion on later day.

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