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Speaker 1: the the Ooklohom City Thunder or your NBA Champions and

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Speaker 1: other stuff we can talk about, but that's really that's

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Speaker 1: kind of the show today. Rick Bucker is going to

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Speaker 1: join us twenty five after the hour. Kevin Urrant was

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Speaker 1: traded over the weekend, and I actually love Kevin Durant's

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant's statement yesterday right, which is he and Kay

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Speaker 1: Adams caught up with KD. We'll play that for you

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Speaker 1: next hour. Ryan Hollins will be our guest, so mostly

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Speaker 1: an NBA show, NBA show today. I'm getting ready for

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Speaker 1: the NBA Draft, which is Wednesday night. It happens really

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Speaker 1: really quickly, and the thunder have a couple of picks.

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Speaker 1: I will caution you with the idea of like it's

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Speaker 1: a dynasty, dynasty it. Let's just here's the way I

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Speaker 1: think it should work. Okay, here's the way I think

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Speaker 1: it should work. It should work in a way in

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Speaker 1: which we go. You know, they're positioned to be competitive

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Speaker 1: decade if things go right. There you go, it's positioned.

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Speaker 1: They're positioned to be competitive at the top of the

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Speaker 1: league for the next four or five years if things

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Speaker 1: go right. And to anyone who says, you know, listen,

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Speaker 1: a new salary cap, the new you know, the new

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Speaker 1: salary cap, it's a dynasty killer or they're the ones

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Speaker 1: best position. That sounds great, but we don't know, you know.

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Speaker 1: And again, you can go back historically, back when the

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Speaker 1: Boston Celtics. You know, back when the Boston Celtics had

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Speaker 1: the Len Bias draft pick. Len Bias was supposed to

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Speaker 1: be the guy who reinvigorated them after Bill Walton retired.

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Speaker 1: You know, Larry Bird was starting, he was his body

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Speaker 1: was starting to break down, right, Robert Parrish was getting old.

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Speaker 1: And then len Bias tragically died from a cocaine overdose

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Speaker 1: the night after the NBA draft, Like it's crazy. Lewis gosh,

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Speaker 1: Remember he was there. Reggie Lewis passed away heart issue.

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Speaker 1: He dies, right, So there have been teams. The Chicago

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Speaker 1: Cubs broke, you know, broke the curse, right, broke the

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Speaker 1: curse of the Billy Goat. They were supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a dynasty. And I can tell you because I had

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Speaker 1: another one again. These guys hate each other. They're also

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Speaker 1: young and full of ego, and they went on a

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Speaker 1: victory tour and it's never going to be the same.

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Speaker 1: It never has been. And I'd like to think that

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Speaker 1: these thunder are different. Right, they're young. They didn't even

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Speaker 1: know how to open the champagne bottles last night? How

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Speaker 1: great a story was that? Did you guys? Hear that?

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Speaker 1: Like the champagne bottles weren't popping, and they're like, well, guys,

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Speaker 1: What that's the greatest thing I've ever heard. But money

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Speaker 1: and fame and attention can change people. And I'll give

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Speaker 1: you an example. They can extend Chet Holmer in this summer,

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Speaker 1: But I harken back, you know, the head of iHeart,

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Speaker 1: the show here on Fox Sports Video is the guy

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Speaker 1: that did the behind the scenes behind the music VH

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Speaker 1: them now. I don't watch VH one. Now I don't

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Speaker 1: even know what exists. Does VH one still exist? I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. I'm guessing no, Sam, That's that feels

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Speaker 1: like a Sam question. Sam, Does VH one exist? Get

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Speaker 1: Is that about how it worked? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest. But you know, pat Riley calls it

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Speaker 1: State of the NBA totally fair, Okay, again, I don't

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Speaker 1: of think it's even harder to have that same level

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Speaker 1: And that's because it's really hard when everybody says, yes,

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Speaker 1: good enough, and that's what people thought with this Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City, especially without Tyre's Halliburton, it was going to

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Speaker 1: And sometimes basketball is just a game of who gets

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Speaker 1: and turnovers and steals, that's it. But I just I

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Speaker 1: and I'll get to why, but let's not over sell

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Speaker 3: You would you take Steph then on that day in

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna catch up with Antonio Daniels in a second.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I never forget when I met Brad Stevens.

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Speaker 1: voice of Dan Byrol. Let's talkome to Antonio Daniels. He

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Speaker 1: City Thunder winning the NBA Championship. Let's start with Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the injury, Tyr's Halburton's injury. We've seen a

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Speaker 4: I wish I know. I don't even I don't feel

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Speaker 4: I love them. I love them, and you know the

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Speaker 4: god get an opportunity to get to that next level,

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Speaker 4: then you can see a full array of who they

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Speaker 4: are on both sides of the basketball that I feel

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Speaker 4: in college you really don't get an opportunity to see it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, that is special.

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Speaker 4: He's special.

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Speaker 1: Though, What's what's the high end? What's the low end

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Speaker 1: in your mind for.

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Speaker 4: A Cooper m Like, I don't know because what that

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Speaker 4: is is that that involves comparison and contrast. And like

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Speaker 4: for me, do I think he's generational. I think he

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Speaker 4: has the ability to be generational. I do I think

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Speaker 4: he has the skill set to be generational. I think

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Speaker 4: he has the confidence to be generational. Now, what changed

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Speaker 4: my whole thought process is when I watched him play

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Speaker 4: against the Olympic team. And again, you're gonna watch that

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Speaker 4: and say, well, maybe the guys on the Olympic team

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Speaker 4: weren't going, you know, like they were playing against France

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Speaker 4: in the gold medal game. But still, that young man

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Speaker 4: was seventeen years old. He was seventeen years old, not

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Speaker 4: yet a year removed from prom and he was out

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Speaker 4: there giving it to guys, given it to guys. That's

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Speaker 4: not an easy thing to do. But a lot of

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Speaker 4: this league is about getting drafted to the right place,

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Speaker 4: with the right teammates, in the right situation, with the

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Speaker 4: right coach. And I think at this particular point in

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Speaker 4: his career, I think Dallas is a great place for

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Speaker 4: him to get drafted.

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Speaker 1: And I agree he doesn't have to you know, people

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Speaker 1: make it out of his offense and what he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to carry the team. But you have Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: They just resigned Daniel Gafford right like, they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: really good, so he doesn't have to go down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have rim protection. He's going to be a four,

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Speaker 1: you know, at three four, I have to you know,

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Speaker 1: guard guards as well. But he can use his size

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Speaker 1: and his long arms to be super effective. I'm with

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Speaker 1: you on all that, all of it. Okay, So Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: City wins the championship, as we told people you cover

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Speaker 1: the Pelicans, you also do NBA rado.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: You have people who will say this team is not

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Speaker 1: nearly as good as many the championship teams of yesteryear.

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Speaker 4: What would your retort be, I mean, and I mean

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Speaker 4: this respectfully. Who cares like it doesn't? I mean, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter because they don't have to play those championship teams.

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Speaker 4: Like the thing is, people have a hard time dog

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Speaker 4: and this generation of basketball talk in a basketball culture

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Speaker 4: saying anybody that's playing today is the best fill in

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't. I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's there will always be a healthy debate over Lebron

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Speaker 1: and and Michael. Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of

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Speaker 1: all time? Right?

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Speaker 4: Do you know how many people that have combated that.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm talking about people that are on your network,

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Speaker 4: people that are on your network that I join weekly

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Speaker 4: that will say Steph Curry is not the greatest shooter

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Speaker 4: of all time?

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Speaker 1: Who is?

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Speaker 4: I've always said yes, I've always said I don't even

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Speaker 4: think that's debatable. I don't think it's debatable, but I'm

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Speaker 4: wrong because it's debatable because there are other people out

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Speaker 4: there that disagree.

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Speaker 1: I think the point is and I had a great

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Speaker 1: discussion with somebody from the Bucks yesterday and we were

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Speaker 1: trade Giannis start over, and they were like, it's actually,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say easier, but there's more parody

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Speaker 1: than ever. It's it's not that hard to put yourself

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Speaker 1: in the conference finals if you could have a really

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Speaker 1: good meat.

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Speaker 4: In the East, well even in the West, Man.

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Speaker 1: Bro the Warriors, the Warriors aren't Warriors aren't good anymore.

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Speaker 1: The Lakers aren't good anymore. The Nuggets have no bench,

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Speaker 1: and they were but well, I didn't get to the

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Speaker 1: caveat the caveat was you got to have, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of these star players. But you also, it's so

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Speaker 1: much of it's about health and luck, you know, with

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Speaker 1: than anything else.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this this era of parody remains.

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Speaker 4: I think it remains because the CBA, the way it's

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Speaker 4: constructed now, it's not really set up for teams to

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Speaker 4: have dynasty. You know. I've seen this CBA referred to

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Speaker 4: as the dynasty killer because if you look at the

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Speaker 4: way it's constructed. It's not set up for teams to

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Speaker 4: to have sustain long term success like we saw in

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Speaker 4: Golden State, like we saw in San Antonio, you know

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Speaker 4: some of the some of the dynasties that we've seen,

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Speaker 4: Like think about it Boston. Think about how Boston looked

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Speaker 4: entering this year, right entering this season, sure, right now,

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Speaker 4: how they mcnow how things change in a heartbeat because

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Speaker 4: of this new CBA. Well, I'm coperent that teams are

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Speaker 4: trying to stay under I'll push back on Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: I'll only push back on you with the Warriors because

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Speaker 1: of this. One of the things that allowed the Warriors

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Speaker 1: to sustain their success longer was Steph Curry's second contract

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Speaker 1: wasn't us because because because he had all the ankle injuries,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a huge sex he didn't have a

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Speaker 1: huge second contract.

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Speaker 4: So but Doug, but Dub, the reason that this CBA

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Speaker 4: is even in play now is because of the Warriors.

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Speaker 1: Right because they could go into that second tax and

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Speaker 1: still and still find ways they paid the tax and

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Speaker 1: still find a way to survive.

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Speaker 4: Right Yeah, So it's it's like we look at Oklahoma

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Speaker 4: City right now, is what they did this year sustainable

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Speaker 4: for five years, six years?

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Speaker 1: Uh, probably only because they're uniquely positioned because of all

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Speaker 1: those draft picks, right right.

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Speaker 4: But the thing is, DoD Like, it's gonna come a

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Speaker 4: point like what people what I feel like gets lost

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Speaker 4: here when we have the discussions about business chemistry. I

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Speaker 4: feel like it's the most underrated and undervalued aspect in

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Speaker 4: the NBA.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna come in in basketball, no question. In basketball,

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Speaker 1: agree with you.

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Speaker 4: For sure, for sure. So it's gonna come a point

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Speaker 4: where teams come knocking for Lou Dorg and teams teams

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Speaker 4: come knocking for Aaron Wiggins, and teams come knocking for

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Speaker 4: Isaiah Joe And you know what the average Fano saying,

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Speaker 4: Oh man, you can find somebody to do what they do.

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Speaker 4: But what you're not taking into consideration is the chemistry

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Speaker 4: of the role, definition and understanding that these guys had

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Speaker 4: that led to an NBA championship. Because there are guys

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Speaker 4: outside of Jake kids Alexander and Jay Dubb and Ched Holmgern,

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Speaker 4: outside of Isaiah Hartstein and Altruzo that are going to

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Speaker 4: need to be taken care of financially.

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Speaker 1: Yep, No, I mean Cruso is the perfect example, right,

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers didn't valued enough, but he was a gloup.

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Speaker 1: He was a glue piece when they won the COVID Championship.

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Speaker 1: Last thing, circling back to Antonio Dan is joining US

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Speaker 1: NBA Radio Plus. He's the color analyst for the New

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Speaker 1: Orleans Pelicans. He joins us in the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. What percentage of people know the

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Speaker 1: NBA Draft went to two days?

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Speaker 4: Well, I feel like a lot of people would know

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Speaker 4: simply because of last year's because it felt like it

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Speaker 4: would put off for Bronnie. That's what it felt like.

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Speaker 4: It felt like the only reason it went to two

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Speaker 4: days is because Bronnie James. People were looking to see

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Speaker 4: if and where Bronnie James would end up. I'm getting

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Speaker 4: interested to see how much traction it gets this year

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Speaker 4: on the second day when Bronnie James is not there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think very much agrees, don't. I

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Speaker 1: just don't. I just don't. I think it's one of

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Speaker 1: those oh the NFL's do it, we gotta do it,

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Speaker 1: like yeah you no.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of it.

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Speaker 1: I am not a fan of it mean, I am

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Speaker 1: not a fan.

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Speaker 4: Of it at all.

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Speaker 1: And look, I did, I did, I think twelve NBA drafts,

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Speaker 1: twelve NBA drafts on ESPN Radio, and then I did

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Speaker 1: a couple we did some stuff when I was at CBS,

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Speaker 1: And the second round does move fast and furious, and

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Speaker 1: you don't know who's going to wear because guys are

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Speaker 1: are actually traded before their draft and all the other stuff.

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Speaker 1: But to have a whole other day, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't really get.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what though, Doug, it's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: it seems like for what everything that we're hearing, it's

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Speaker 4: supposed to be a pretty busy night around the league.

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Speaker 1: It will be a pretty big it will be a

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty big last thing. Kevin Garnett, Kevin Kevin Gartt,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in Houston. How does that work?

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Speaker 4: Well? You know, for me, I'm gonna be honest with you, Doug.

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Speaker 4: I love Kevin Durant. He's one of my favorite players

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Speaker 4: to watch play. I am just not on board with

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Speaker 4: teams going big game hunting anymore. Where's the last team

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Speaker 4: to win? Where's the last team where that paid off? Right?

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Speaker 4: Because if you look at the pieces that are needed

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Speaker 4: to win. It's guys like Isaiah Hartenstein. It's guys like

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Speaker 4: Alice Caruso. It's guys like Drew Holliday and guys like

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Speaker 4: Derek White, Guys like PJ. Tucker, Containious Cardwell Pope, you know,

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Speaker 4: Bruce Brown, these kind of guys.

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Speaker 1: They didn't win the title, but Dallas did get to

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Speaker 1: the finals. Big I'm hunting going after Kyrie Irving to

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Speaker 1: add to Luca Well, you know what I know.

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Speaker 4: But there's a draftic difference from getting to the finals

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Speaker 4: and winning the final.

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Speaker 1: Right figure.

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Speaker 4: There are more examples. There are more examples of team

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Speaker 4: going big game hunting that didn't work out as opposed

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Speaker 4: to the ones that went big game. Honey, they did, no.

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Speaker 1: Question, He's Antonio Daniels. He does an awesome job. Don't

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Speaker 1: enjoy the draft to night. We'll talk soon and thanks

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Speaker 1: for being our guest.

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Speaker 4: For sure, appreciation brother.

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Speaker 1: to you from Parts Unknown. Huh Parts Unknown? Got a

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Speaker 1: great show for you on a Tuesday, a victory parade Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: tens of peoples are lying the streets in Bricktown and

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City to cheeran your champion, Oklahoma City Thunder. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to that coming up. We got a heck of

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Speaker 1: a show for you. I'll read parts of a heartfelt

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Speaker 1: message from when Tyre's Halliburton. Adam Figelstein's going to join us.

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Speaker 1: He's a college basketball insider. As we get ready for

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night's NBA Draft where it's the Cooper Flag Draft,

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Speaker 1: you also hear from O'Brian Scalabriney Scow, who's from my era,

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Speaker 1: of course, analyst with Nessen covering the Celtics. We'll get

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Speaker 1: his thoughts on Cooper Flag as we get ready to

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Speaker 1: watch him be the number one overall pick in the

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Speaker 1: draft and go to the Dallas Mavericks. It could be

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Speaker 1: my thoughts and with their scouts thoughts, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: discuss it with Adam Finkelstein. So got a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to. I do want to start with the story

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Speaker 1: of the day, which is also the story to jour

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Well, he's not calling it a career officially,

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Speaker 1: but unofficially like, yeah, this is this is about it.

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Speaker 1: Here's Rogers earlier today, I with Pat McAfee talking about

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Speaker 1: this being his last season.

648
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's

649
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 6: why we just did a one year deal. You know,

650
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 6: this was really about finishing with a lot of love

651
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 6: and fun and peace for the career that I've had.

652
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Speaker 6: I mean I've played twenty freaking years. Yeah, Like it's

653
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 6: been a long, long run. I've enjoyed it. And what

654
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 6: better place to finish than in one of the cornerstone

655
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 6: franchises of the NFL with Mike Tomlin and a great

656
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 6: group of leadership and great guys in the city that

657
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 6: you know expects expects.

658
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: You to win. Here's Rogers talking about what his future

659
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: looks like in regards to I don't know television. He he,

660
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: he actually says, you know you won't see him anymore,

661
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: all right. We have a little trouble with that one.

662
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 6: Looks it's six society, isn't it. It's a six society.

663
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 6: I lived in a public guy for twenty years. I

664
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 6: had public relationship. How did that work out?

665
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 4: You know?

666
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 6: I had had people leaking my home information and making

667
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 6: up stories that we bought a house together. People calling

668
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 6: them populazzi, people you know, posting personal life on the internet.

669
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually I understand that. You know, you do

670
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: want some private See there's no place where you sign

671
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: up to play football that they say they're going to

672
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: follow you around and take pictures of you. And you're

673
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: on the beach and wonder why your new wife is

674
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: not on the beach. By the way, when you get married,

675
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to spend other you just don't. Now,

676
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: some waking moments together would be good, but we also

677
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: don't know who she is or if she's traveling. And

678
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: he's kind of done with it, and he's like, look,

679
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm out. It's not hard to be out of the

680
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: public eye. There are plenty of people who have disappeared

681
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: from the public eye. I just, you know, I think

682
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: he's fascinating.

683
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: I do.

684
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: He's made a fan in Jason Stewart because Jay Stu,

685
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: as he said, he wants on his tombstone searches for

686
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: whatever the opposite of BS is. And it does feel

687
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers, whether he's right or wrong in many

688
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: the things that he thinks. It's he's not trying to

689
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: be full of it is at least the now would

690
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: I would point out that most of the vaccine thing

691
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: and how he handled it and got himself in a

692
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: negative place in the public eye was because he was lying.

693
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: But regardless of which, I've known Aaron a little bit

694
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: and I do actually think he's just not He's just

695
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: never really enjoyed the attention of it, you know, it's

696
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: all the other things. And I actually think there's something

697
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: very relatable about that to me, Jason, in your years

698
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: with Jim Rome, right, there's a guy who's never really

699
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: been comfortable in the public eye either, And I wanted,

700
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: here's the easiest way to relate it. Okay, it's a

701
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: very different I hung out with Aaron Rodgers once in

702
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: the final four. It was when it was in Phoenix. Gosh,

703
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: when was that. That was was at North Carolina be Gonzaga,

704
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: I think in the championship game. We hung out after

705
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: the semi finals and he told me is twenty seventeen.

706
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: Yet he told me like before we went out, he

707
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: was like, hey, just so you know, every person that

708
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: comes up to me will put their hands on me,

709
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: will touch me. It was like, what do you mean, Like,

710
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: just watch it's the weirdest thing. I don't know what

711
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: it's about. And so we'd go to a We went

712
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: to a restaurant first. Then we went and you know,

713
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: the owner comes out to the restaurant and puts his

714
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: arm on Aaron's shoulder and he looks at me and

715
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. Wasn't rude in any way. The

716
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: waiter comes out and you know, several other waiters and

717
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: they're being really really nice. But every guy who comes

718
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: by and wants to meet him or introduce him puts

719
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: their hand because he's sitting on his shoulder. Then we

720
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: go to a concert and we're backstage at a concert

721
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: and same thing. Guys that come up and some just

722
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: like smack them, some touch them. Then we go to

723
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: a club late at night and literally every person comes

724
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: up and puts their hands on and no one is

725
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: like if one person does it, it's a little different.

726
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: You know, some people are close talkers or whatever, but

727
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: every person who engaged in a conversation or wanted to

728
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: put their hands on him. And I've always told people that, look,

729
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm like a one thousandth of the people know me

730
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: who would know Aaron Rodgers. But there is when I

731
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: was in college, and even now, you go into a

732
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: place and everyone knows who you are, even if you're

733
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: new to that place, when you don't know who anybody is,

734
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: and then when you factor in again, I don't know

735
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: if you'd call it issues or suspicions, or people who

736
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: have done him wrong, or people who have fallen out

737
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: of his life. But when you're not a super trusting

738
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: person and you walk into it like Aaron Rodgers, every

739
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: room he walks into in the United States and in

740
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: some other places abroad, everyone knows who he is. Think

741
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: about that for a second. Everyone knows who he is,

742
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, and the guy who doesn't know who he

743
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: is is called like an idiot. Right they come back

744
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of waiters back there. It's like,

745
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: you see who there was, Like I got no idea

746
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: who that is? To Aaron Rodgers, like I don't watch

747
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't want soccer like you. No, No, he's a

748
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: football player, Like I don't know that. That guy's called

749
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: an idiot for not knowing. So it's a very strange

750
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: existence in life to be the you don't have to

751
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: introduce yourself, and with the knowledge of who you are,

752
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: many people carry with them the baggage of thinking they

753
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: know who you are, they know what you're about, and

754
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: they carry an opinion of you. Uh So, when he

755
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: calls it a career and he disappears, I think that's why.

756
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to find a place where no

757
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: one knows who he is.

758
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: Now.

759
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: To me, I it does. It can be a lot. Again,

760
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: at a fraction of his level of startom, it can

761
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: be a lot, but it's kind of cool when people

762
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: know you are, it's still at the kind still kind

763
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: of cool. It can be a lot, you know, especially

764
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 1: when people say things or question things or whatever. But

765
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: if you're not built for it, or if you've been

766
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: scoring the relationships, or if you have some trust issues,

767
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: it can lead you to just want to disappear. And

768
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: it does explain a lot for why it took aim

769
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: a while to get to this point of playing for

770
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: the for the Steelers, why he does his darkness retreats,

771
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: why he does kind of odd, quirky things in comparison

772
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: to other NFL players that we think we know what

773
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: they do in the off season. And what's interesting about

774
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: it is through all the quirkiness and all the things

775
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: that people will say many of them negative about him.

776
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: When he's gone, he'll be missed, his will And it's

777
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: why I'm fascinated by this season. They play the green

778
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. What is it October twenty sixth? Think about that,

779
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers playing for the Steelers against the green Bay

780
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: Packers and Jordan Love Like in Pittsburgh, I wish it

781
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: was in Green Bay. The only thing any think of

782
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: wish it was in green Bay. But this is it's

783
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: it's honestly pretty cool. And there are this Jay Stu,

784
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: you and I got into the little discussion about people

785
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: who in politics. What's the what's the guy on Instagram

786
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: who wants to lob negativity towards us or especially towards you.

787
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: It Sam john Boat Giants.

788
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: John Boat Johns get on way too much oxygen, but

789
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 1: John Boat Giants And and the point that Jay stew

790
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: makes on the pod is that just because you agree

791
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 1: or just agree with one thing politically, should not align

792
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: you with that group all the time. You don't have to.

793
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: That's not the way it's supposed to work. You can

794
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: have varying opinion. As a matter of fact, that's actually

795
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: the beauty to the country.

796
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: I think that's what makes America great to be honest, that's.

797
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: What makes America great again. Wait wait, wait, Rebecca Lobo,

798
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure she were allowed to say that. Anyway,

799
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna weave like like Donald Trump weaves. Okay,

800
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it back to my point, but not

801
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: drop an F bomb like he did earlier today.

802
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

803
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: I just I think that Aaron Rodgers playing one last

804
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: season with the Pittsburgh Steelers and not asking for the

805
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: fanfare of a farewell tour and oh yeah, by the way,

806
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to probably save Mike Tomlin or

807
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: Mike tom could be out too. I cannot think of

808
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: a better scenario for the entertainment alone and the interest

809
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: that I have in watching the Pittsburgh Steelers. They were

810
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: utterly and completely boring the past five years, right, big

811
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: Ben aged, then Big Ben retired or Big Ben tourists

812
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: elbow up. Then he came back and played and he

813
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: was okay, And then they did Kenny Pickett, and then

814
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: last year they had you know, two quarterbacks that weren't

815
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: particularly good. And now they have Aaron Rodgers and now

816
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: it's really interesting and he's like, by my last year,

817
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: And why would you say, and people will I'm sure

818
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: be critical of why don't you just say it's your

819
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: last year? Well, I don't know. If you win a

820
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl and you really enjoy it, like, well, I

821
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: could do it again. I don't know as of now

822
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: last year, but you know, I don't know. If it's

823
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: really fun and I really like it and I'm really good,

824
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: I'll do it again. He just defies conventional wisdom on

825
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: a daily basis. And it's not my team, but he's

826
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: a great player, and I'm all for watching it. I'm

827
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: an interested party, and I will borrow from my good

828
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: friend Colin Coward, who says, hey, you don't have to

829
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: be great, just be interesting. And Aaron Rodgers interesting yes, yes, uh,

830
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: Jason Stewart.

831
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: No, along those lines. Actually, when you say that he

832
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: will be missed, I think we're going to miss him

833
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: more than you're going to miss him. More than you

834
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: think you will. I'm gonna I'm going to show this

835
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: contrast to prove my point. Netflix announced their new season

836
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: of quarterback Kirk Cousins, Joe Burrow and Jared Goff. Like

837
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: I almost literally fell asleep before I got to the

838
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: end of golf. Those guys could not be less interesting.

839
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: I think that's a Peyton Manning production, right, Omaha productions.

840
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: They do the quarterback You're gonna be able to see

841
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: on Netflix how uninteresting unsophisticated quarterbacks are. They're very good

842
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: at what they do, and they have to be very

843
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: smart at what they do, but they're not very interesting people.

844
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: And then you put Aaron Rodgers doing three hours of

845
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan and you'll have that contrast. We're never gonna

846
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: see this again, somebody playing the most popular position in

847
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: American sports, being as opinionated as he is and literally

848
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 2: not caring what you think.

849
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, gives zero f's not a single one. Yeah, I'm

850
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: all for it. You and I are aligning on this

851
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: right and you'll hear. I'm sure there's people that he's

852
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: upset along the way. There's people that have fallen off,

853
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: and I don't know his level of talent right now.

854
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I do think that if we're gonna go, we're gonna

855
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: go Nerd Sports Talk. Last year, Aaron Rodgers first five

856
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: games look washed. In the season, he started to come

857
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: back and get his legs under him. Who knows, I

858
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: don't know if he could play anymore, maybe he stinks.

859
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: I would say that as a quarterback, especially one when

860
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: it's your last year and you've suffered through some tough injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the biggest challenges. No one wants

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Speaker 1: to get hit, But does he play like somebody who

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to get hit. I think that'd be fair.

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Speaker 1: I think that'd be fair. But what I know, not think.

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Speaker 4: What I know.

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Speaker 1: Is that we'll be watching and it's interesting. And yeah, again,

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Speaker 1: if he's peak Aaron Rodgers, he's also arguably the best

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Speaker 1: to ever do it when he's been right. Like, there's

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Speaker 1: some things Aaron Rodgers has done a football field they're

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Speaker 1: just insane, like the no look stuff that Pat Mahomes does.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm fully aware that on this very same

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Speaker 1: radio show me as the very same host has said,

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Speaker 1: we need to have a discussion that Pat Mahomes might

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Speaker 1: be the best to ever do it. And there's also

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Speaker 1: a discussion Aaron Rodgers has been the best to ever

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Speaker 1: do it for a while as well, So you factor

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Speaker 1: in that at least for a portion of time he

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Speaker 1: was the best. That portion of time is not that

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Speaker 1: long ago. He suffered through a groosme injury, he suffered

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Speaker 1: through breakups with teams, breakups with friends, breakups with girls.

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Speaker 1: He's told you this is my last go round. It's

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Speaker 1: with a very interesting team with a coach that everybody likes.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like they've been particularly good, although they

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Speaker 1: haven't been bad. And the excuse or the reason, whichever

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Speaker 1: side you want to come from, is we don't have

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Speaker 1: very good quarterback. I don't know he's a very good quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but he was once a great quarterback, and that once

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Speaker 1: was not that long ago. While we're searching for the

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Speaker 1: next face of the NBA or wondering, you know, how

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Speaker 1: to make the NBA's regular season more interesting, the NFL

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Speaker 1: is super interesting. And Aaron Rodgers is a big reason

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Speaker 1: why beg Rason one