1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Well that didn't take long. What's up everybody? Sunday, February fifth, 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: you got another No Dunks emergency podcasts and we got 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: three of the No Donkeys in here today in the yard, 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm Skeet's task at the bottom. That's TK. Let's jump 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: right into the big news. My god, the NBA. I 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: just had to wear an NBA sweater like a raw blow. 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: It's drunk. Okay, here we go. The Brooklyn Nets are 8 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: trading Kyrie Irving to the Dallas Mavericks for Spencer Dinwiddie, 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: Dorian Finney Smith, a first round pick, and multiple second 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: round picks. Mark Eith Morris also going to the Dallas Mavericks. 11 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Just two days ago, we had an emergency podcast to 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: discuss the big Kyrie bombshaw that he was he wanted 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: to be traded before the deadline coming up on Thursday, 14 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: or he was leaving in free agency. And it took 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: forty eight hours to ask for Cuban to say, all right, 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: we can put together a deal. How about it? Dinwitty 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: going back to Brooklyn, how about a DFS and how 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: about a couple picks? 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: What do you think I regret letting Jalen Brunson. Go 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: gotta make a big move, gotta splash a big move 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: right now. This is the best that the Brooklyn Nets 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: could do. I guess in the case here, because Kyrie 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Irving is a rental and by all reporting going around, 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: the Lakers didn't want to give them the give up 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: what the Nets wanted unless that Kyrie signed a two 26 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: year extension that he could sign in a trade, and 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Irving wants to play out the season though, according to 28 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: all reporting, and try and get that four year max. 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: So you got a dinwitty coming back Dorian Finny Smith 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: and a protected pick way in the future, an unprotected pick, 31 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: I should say, way in the future of twenty twenty 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: nine er. I guess that's what you get for a rental. 33 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: I think makes them better. I don't think it makes 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: them an absolute contender, makes them. 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Very good, not bad? Right, No, I mean because the 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: other thing is, yeah, there is the pick, which is interesting, 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: but a lot of reports, I know Hollandre at the 38 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: Athletic was like the Nets wanted players. After Kyrie says 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to be here. Get rid 40 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: of me, and I'm leaving free agency. If you don't anyway, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: the Nets really, well, we want to get we want 42 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to still be good. We obviously want to keep Kevin 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: Durant happy, and we can get into all that trade Kirby, 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: But like, they got some pieces here that you could 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: obviously fit into their lineup that that could help. What 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: did you think of this? 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: Two rotation players and an unprotected first so far in 48 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: the future that it feels like the Nets are betting 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: on the Mavericks imploding. I think this is pretty solid 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 3: for Brooklyn, and it kind of indicates to me that 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: maybe they would consider trading Kevin Durant. But for right now, 52 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: this feels like a move where they're really split in 53 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: the difference of staying competitive and obviously getting something for Kyrie. 54 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: But I mean, let's talk about the MAVs side of things. 55 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: Cool for the Nets to get anything back for a 56 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: guy who was piecing out and was threatening to sit 57 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: out the rest of the season if he didn't get 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: traded as a pretty high. 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Risk move for Dallas. Sure, I mean, who knows. 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: If they've talked extension, it could easily be a six 61 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 3: month rental. It definitely feels like Kyrie irving to the 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: Lakers is going to happen at some point, just like 63 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: it felt Jimmy Butler was going to work his way 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: to the Miami Heat even when he was on the 65 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: Philadelphia Sixers. I think that's very similar. But man, the 66 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: MAVs could either have four seasons four and a half 67 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: seasons of the best backcourt in the league, Kyrie Irving 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: and Luka Doncic. Are you kidding me? That's incredible? Or 69 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: they could have six months of that flame out in 70 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: the playoffs and then Kyrie. 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: Goes to the Lakers. 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Or they could completely alienate their star who's supposed to 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: be the savior of the franchise after Dirk Noavinsky left 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: by bringing in a combustible second star who may not 75 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: totally want to be their long term, leaving Luca even 76 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 3: more bare and alone. In Dallas, Let's see what happens here, 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: because I mean, all three of those are really on 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: the table here for Dallas. 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tess, what do you think of the Dallas Maverick 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: side of things here? You know, taking one hell of 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: a risk bringing in Kyrie, you know, losing some players, 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: but not a ton of the rotation. What do you 83 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: think It's like balls to the wall here? You don't 84 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: mind it or you hate it. 85 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: It's high risk ky reward for sure. Who the heck 86 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: knows how long he sticks around there, because he is 87 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: a rental. They're gonna give up points, that's for sure. 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: They're already a pretty bad defense. They don't stop people 89 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: on the perimeter, and Dory Finney Smith is pretty important 90 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: to their defense, so that is a factor for them. 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: They're gonna be thrown out Josh Green out there and 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: Christian Wood a lot of time, so I imagine they're just 93 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: they're just gonna hope they outscore teams, which they obviously can't. 94 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: I mean, last year it worked really really well with 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson and Luca and this is a souped up 96 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson right here. I mean, this is one of 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: the best scores in the game. But it could be 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: freaking volatile here. Who the heck knows. I guess when 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: you compare the packages that were talked about from the Lakers, 100 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: the Clippers said that they made a significant offer because 101 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: they believed in Tylo making it work with Kyrie Irving. 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: Was that not better than this potential offer? I mean, 103 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: I guess it's probably comparable. They didn't have a lot 104 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: of players to throw out. Maybe Terrence Man was the 105 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 2: best player and Spencer Dinwiddie here is a better player. 106 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: You get two rotation players. But I wonder if these 107 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: players are enough to make Kevin Durant happy, because it 108 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: wasn't too long ago Kevin Durant demanded a trade and 109 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: that twenty twenty nine first round pick coming back to 110 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nets. I wonder if they deal it immediately 111 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: for something else to help Appieace Kevin Durant right now, 112 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: because yeah, I think as as we're seeing the reports 113 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: go around Chris Hanes reporting that the Suns they're waiting 114 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: to see if Kevin Durant is available, that wouldn't be shocking. 115 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: Nothing should be shocked. I was shocked Friday when Kyrie said, 116 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna play up the rest of the season 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: because you guys didn't offer me a four year max 118 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 2: with no stipulations. And now it really seems like unless 119 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: Cuban said, wink wink, we'll give you a four year 120 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: max in the off season, just you know, get over here, 121 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: we'll figure it out. I mean, he could be pissed 122 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: and Astrey said go anywhere. He wants in a few 123 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: months for somebody who wants to sign him to a 124 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: four year deal. But I could see Cubes giving him 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: the old winky wink to say long term, if you 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: guys make it work these next couple months, we'll see 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: how it goes. 128 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: A little shark tank maneuver there, wink wink, a little 129 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: right down of a number on a piece of paper, 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: hold it up to him. Yeah. Maybe, But as for 131 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: this season right now, the Mavericks, like what is their 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: starting five and will they be able to stop absolutely 133 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: anyone like Luca and Kyrie does not instill a lot 134 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: of fear in the opposing offense. Tim Hardaway Junior is 135 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: still there as a wing. 136 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: I guess backstop, and Christian would to lock it down 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: right preters getting torched. That's four guys we just listed 138 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: in their starting lightup that are our you know, lower 139 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: end tier of. 140 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: Defensive minded guys. I mean they get a lot of 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: it back on the other end because they're that that 142 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: great at offense. But man, I just who is stopping anybody? 143 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: It's like we're literally talking about Dwight Powell, Josh. 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: Green, Maxi Lefason player of the Year unless so much 145 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: unless they're somehow not done here. 146 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: But wow, that's that is a team that I just 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: can't see stopping anyone. But maybe it won't matter when 148 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: you got two guys that can can flirt with you know, 149 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: forty and fifty every night. 150 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: It feels like it's just gonna be an even more 151 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: hyperized version of the Maverick we've been seeing so far, 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 3: because the Mavericks we've been seeing so far play every 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: single game close and just hope Luca can get him 154 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: over the end. The true at the very final stages 155 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: of the game. It feels like every one of their 156 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 3: games comes down to one or two possessions, and now 157 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: they've got two guys who can do it, so they're 158 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 3: gonna be hoping, Yeah, we score one hundred and thirty 159 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: eight points and we hold our opponents to one hundred 160 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: and thirty six and get the ball with the last shot, 161 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: and we got two guys who can make it. That's 162 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: the game plan for the Mavericks. Everything about this is 163 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: high risk, from the encore product to what they could 164 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: even possibly try to build going forward. But the thing 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: with the Mavericks is they needed a second start. It's 166 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: quite obvious there ain't a lot of ways they could 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 3: go about getting it. To give up a couple of 168 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: rotation players and a pick so far in the future, 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: you hope you can do something about it to change it. 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 3: I understand where they're coming from. They just have to 171 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: hope that like his Kyrie's relationship with Nico Harrison actually 172 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: means something. That Jason Kidd as a Hall of Fame 173 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: point guard who can teach him a little bit, Hopefully 174 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: that means something. 175 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: H good luck. 176 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: Look look at their playoff rotation last year that went 177 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: to the conference finals though. To give them some decent 178 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: amount of hope, it was it was Jalen Brunson starting 179 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 2: beside Luka Doncic in the backcourt, then Dorian Finney Smith, 180 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Reggie Bullock and Dwight Powell. So you sub in Kyrie 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: for Brunson, you saw in probably Josh Green on the perimeter, 182 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: who is a solid defender in for Dorian Finney Smith, 183 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: and you know, you hope Kleeba comes back and you 184 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: still have Dwight Powell back there. They get out score teams, 185 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: uh and have enough defensively if you you know, you 186 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: you got Luca as your as your main guy, and 187 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: you kind of just got to ride him and hope 188 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: he inspires guys on the defensive end. It's it's it's 189 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: not all that different. I know Jalen Brunson is far 190 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: more solid than Kyrie Irving, but Kyrie Irving has won 191 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 2: championships as a lead point guard, as a lead perimeter 192 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: h even though that's that's not his thing. I mean, 193 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: it's not that far off when you look at it 194 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: that way. I know people here yelling in the stream 195 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: team thank you for joining us on YouTube, yelling that 196 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: was a fluke. Well, every single game they were in it, 197 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: they had they had a they just had they had 198 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 2: a good run. And when you got Luca, I don't 199 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 2: think you can underestimate. You got Luca, You've got a 200 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: chance to do anything. This is one of the best 201 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: players of this generation. So they can still do something 202 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: as well. I don't think it's it's a risk. Obviously 203 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 2: it's a risk, but as far as the rotation goes, 204 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: really right now, you're subbing in Kyrie for Spencer Dinwiy 205 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: and you're losing a solid defender in Dori and Phinney Smith. 206 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: But Josh Green is coming off the bench. You throw 207 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: him into the starting lineup hopefully but comes back and yeah, 208 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: it's it's a much better prospect obviously for the next 209 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: few months than it was with with with what they had. 210 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: Right, what do you think about Kevin Durant and all? 211 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: I know, it's tough to try and like figure out 212 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: what these guys are gonna do, how they're thinking. Like, 213 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: by all accounts, we don't even know. We never really 214 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: even got a reaction right from Katie himself to the 215 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: Kyrie News from two days ago. But I mean, I 216 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: don't know, look into your crystal ball. How does this 217 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: go with Kevin Durant? Have they done enough in this 218 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: trade to appease him, to keep him happy, to be like, yeah, 219 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: we could still win a championship. I'm Kevin Durant put 220 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: some pieces around me, okay? Or is this like the 221 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: first move before this potential moving of Kevin Durant in 222 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: the next five days here to a Suns or to 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: another team? What do you think? 224 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: I think this kicks the can down the road until 225 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: the summer. I think Kevin Durant will finish out this 226 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: season as a Brooklyn Net. The Nets we're what eighteen 227 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: and two and they were starting Edmund Sumner Kad gave 228 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 3: an interview about it, saying, we need some better players 229 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: around here, and at the very least DFS playoff guy 230 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: Spencer did what he thrived in Brooklyn once upon a 231 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 3: time can play a similar style the Kyrie irving. They're 232 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: trading one player who's in their rotation for two of 233 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: them because Markkeith Morris not so much a rotation member. 234 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: So you know, I think they at least are saying 235 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: if Katie comes back looks as good as he did 236 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 3: in the first half of the season when he was 237 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: an MVP candidate, or putting a couple of shooters around him, 238 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: another ball handler and Spencer Dinwiddie, you can at least 239 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: talk yourself into the Nets having a chance in any 240 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: playoff series because they got KD And if that's the case, 241 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: you can talk yourself into making a run to the 242 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 3: conference finals. And then maybe in the summer you can 243 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: convince him to not make a trade request and stick 244 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 3: around and that you're going to continue improving the team. 245 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: I think he'll be there at least for the end 246 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: of this season, just because of needing to come back 247 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: from injury from the first part and because the team 248 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: was good and Katie is such a baller that you 249 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: can put anybody around him and they're going to be 250 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: a pretty solid team in the summer. 251 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Though. 252 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 3: I think it's much more likely that he gets done. 253 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: It just seems kind of unlikely that the Nets are 254 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: able to do back to back blockbuster deals like this. 255 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: Yeah within a week. Yeah, I think that's right. They 256 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: could put together a pretty scary defensive lineup task around 257 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: Katie here moving forward, because you could play I mean, 258 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is still on this team. You obviously have 259 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: Royce O'Neil during Phinney Smith is no slouch defensively. Nick 260 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 1: Claxton has been great as a big there. That's four 261 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: really really solid defensive guys. Katie is your superstar. Could work, 262 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, Din Winty off the bench and all that. 263 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: Whether he starts going to play a ton of minutes. 264 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: But I actually am a little surprised. I thought the 265 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: Nets did pretty good here For a guy forty eight 266 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: hours ago saying that one out of here to get 267 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: a decent return, I couldn't believe they got. Like, I know, 268 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: it's way in the future, but an unprotected pick is 269 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: an unprotected pick. You never know what that can turn 270 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: into or like you said, flipped into. So I thought 271 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: they made out pretty well here, and I know we 272 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: can get into some of the other hypothetical trades. Monday's podcast, 273 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show was going to be all right, let's hear 274 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: your best Kyrie Irving trade. Oh my god, Westbrook didn't 275 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: play last night. That's probably happening, right, Kyrie didn't play. 276 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: Of course, we thought the Lakers, we thought the Clippers, 277 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: we thought the Suns, you know, and the Mavericks were 278 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: in the mix. But Cuban just said, here's the deal, 279 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: let's do it. 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that they still could have gotten something better. 281 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: I obviously don't know, you know, what those other packages were, 282 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: but it's a seller's market. There's there's not a ton 283 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: of teams selling right now because everybody still thinks that 284 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: they're in it. They had the best player available in 285 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving right now, and I know he is a 286 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 2: volatile player, but I think they could have got an 287 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: unprotected first for in any situation for any of those 288 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 2: teams that we're talking about. The Clippers, the Lakers would 289 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: have been willing to give it up, and Spencer Didwddy 290 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 2: obviously a solid player, I do think that they they're 291 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: smart that they picked a twenty twenty nine pick from 292 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 2: the MAVs, because looking at it, the MAVs can trade 293 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: all their picks from twenty twenty four and beyond. They 294 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: have lots of picks. So they decided, let's go deep, 295 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: let's go real deep, and not pick give us a 296 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: pick here where Lucas still in his prime kicking ass. 297 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: You know, he'll probably still be in his prime in 298 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. So I just I don't think it's 299 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: all that juicy. Would you rather have a Lakers pick 300 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: after their run is done? I think so. Would you 301 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: rather have a Clippers pick after their run is done? 302 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: I think so. Listen, the lineup looks good though, as 303 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: you said, around Kevin Durant, it's like twenty twenty one 304 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: where his toe was on the line in the second 305 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: round against the Milwaukee Bucks because Kyrie went out and 306 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: because Harden was playing on half a leg. It was Kyri. 307 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: It was Kevin Durant taking every single shot and all 308 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: those dudes just working their asses off around him. So 309 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: can they win? Yeah, because it's Kevin Durant and they 310 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: have Spencer dinwhid he come off the bench and all 311 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: those guys you mentioned a lot of defensive talent around him. 312 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: But I wonder, yeah, if they flip this pick, because 313 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: I wonder they still want a big I know we've 314 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: been talking about like the Mason Plumbley ilk of players, 315 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: like they still want somebody like that. Yeah, I think 316 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: the Hornets would take an unprotected first round for Mason Plumbley. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 317 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: you should, Okay, Yeah, well, well I think they would say, yeah, yeah, 318 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: I think that's the only surprising thing that this isn't 319 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: a three team deal and that the Nets even got 320 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: a first round pick, because yeah, they got this balance 321 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: of yeah, we got to pick in the future. You know. 322 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: But I think you want to make Durant happy now, 323 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: and it's unlikely that they trade him in the next 324 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: four days. Like I thought there was a chance that 325 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: the nexts called Kyrie's bluff and said, screw it. You 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: want to earn your contract or you want to waste 327 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: you do you want to cost yourself more money by 328 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: sitting out? Well, they didn't do that. I think they 329 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: they'll do that with Kevin Durant. Like, even if Durant 330 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: is somewhat upset, you can't you're not going to trade 331 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: him because he's under contract for so long. They got 332 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: three more playoffs with him after this one to appease 333 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: him in the summer. But I could see them turning 334 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: this twenty nine pick into something really good to help 335 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 2: them out another offensive player at least. 336 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: The reason why the MAVs may have been the team 337 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: to get it done is again, I think it comes 338 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: back to the players. And the picks are nice and 339 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: they're gravy and all that, but like, the Nets have 340 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: no incentive to first off tank by any means because 341 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: they owe all their picks for like the next five years, 342 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, in the James Harden deal. So there's that, 343 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: and of course the whole like try and keep Katie happy. 344 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: He's still a superstar. You've got one on your team, 345 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,959 Speaker 1: you should really go for it. So it's like, I 346 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: wonder if if the Clippers were not willing to give 347 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: up Terrence Man, which I don't think they were, and 348 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: it was more like here's Reggie Jackson, Here's Covington, Here's Canard, 349 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: compared to that to Dinwitty during Finnis Smith, I like 350 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: those two better, if I'm being honest, And then you know, 351 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: the Lakers is less about the players. It was always 352 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: about the picks, because it's like, unless we rope in 353 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: a third team to take on the Westbrook and then 354 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: maybe get some picks back for doing it, and then 355 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: players coming from that third team in the nets, like 356 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers weren't giving them anything of value talent wise. 357 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a big part tray 358 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: of of why Dallas put together the most enticing package 359 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: here in this very short window too, of like less 360 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: than a week. 361 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they did it pretty quickly. They said 362 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 3: you want an unprotected first. Then Brooklyn said, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, 363 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: we want an unprotected first. But you know what, send 364 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: us a couple of guys who are gonna help out 365 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: this year because maybe they're just trying to make one 366 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: last stab at it with Kevin Durant, because it doesn't 367 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 3: feel to me like something is going to change so 368 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 3: drastically that he finishes out his entire contract with Brooklyn, 369 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: Like I think it's it's nice to look at those 370 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: years and think, yeah, they got a few more playoff 371 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 3: runs together. But if he made a playoff, if he 372 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: made a trade request last season, uh, when the he 373 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: at least had a second superstar alongside him. I think 374 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: he will be even more so motivated come this off season, 375 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: and it'll be a little bit easier to make a 376 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 3: deal for somebody. I think once we've seen some of 377 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 3: the draft protections get taken off after the draft comes by, 378 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: it's just easier to do a massive deal like this. 379 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: It just happened quickly for Dallas because the Nets, surely 380 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 3: we're ready to move on from Kyrie, and the MAVs 381 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 3: were so desperate to get any kind of a star 382 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: alongside Luca. And not to mention a guy and Kyrie 383 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 3: who has worked next to high usage players. I see 384 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 3: a lot in the stream team people are saying they 385 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: got two ballhowks, that's going to be a problem. Kyrie's 386 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: best ever seasons, we're next to Lebron James, who handles 387 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: the ball quite a bit, a very Lucas styled player. 388 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: I think it'll be tough to stop those two as 389 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 3: long as they are both still on the court together. 390 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you just to touch the ball, yeah, it's true. 391 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior, whenever he does touch it, he'll just 392 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: be firing us through this. We know that if you're 393 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: just joining us, Thank you, Live here on YouTube, Little 394 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Sunday Emergency Podcast doing some big numbers. Hit the light button, 395 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: subscribe to No Dunks if you haven't. We do this 396 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: every day live at ten am Eastern. If you're somehow 397 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: new here, and I'm sure some of you are, here's 398 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: the trade. If you came in late Cham's woes. They're 399 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: all saying this, the Dallas Mavericks getting Kyrie Irving and 400 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: Markith Morris, the Nets getting Answered Dinwitty, Dorian Finney Smith 401 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: twenty nine first round pick and two second round picks 402 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: there in the future as well twenty seven and twenty nine. Yeah, 403 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: Monday show that we all had plan just we could 404 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: just rip it up. All those hypothetical trades we had 405 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: the ones we were like, really, oh, I guess the 406 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: other team I didn't bring up there when we're talking 407 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: players tasks is would you in theory rather have Chris 408 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: Paul Christ and Jake Browner, Van Dinwitty and Dfs'. That's 409 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: to me the only one where you're like, yeo oh, yeah, 410 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: we want Chris Paul because of the being the floor 411 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: general and a million playoff series and blah blah blah 412 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: blah blah. That's the only one, I think you could compare. 413 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: Well in terms of players, Yeah, plan, I guess so Listen, 414 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: I still think the Lakers and Clippers first round unprotected pick, 415 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: if they're willing to give it up, it's probably better 416 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: than this mas one. But as far as the players go, yeah, 417 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: Chris Paul in name the best player that was reportedly 418 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: available but also ancient player, He's, uh, we're getting We're 419 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 2: getting this long and the tooth as like that's that's 420 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: a risk. Yeah, but that the proposed deal of it 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: was Chris Paul and Jay Crowder our man John Hollingder 422 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: throw I shouldn't say proposed, but the hypothetical deal of 423 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: Chris Paul and Jay Crowder for Kyrie and Utah Watsonabe. 424 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just not a lot good long term look. 425 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: So so no, I think you you could flip this 426 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 2: this pick, that the uh that the Nets got for 427 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 2: from the mask for something even better, and that the 428 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: packages looks even better than just Spencer Dinwiddie and Dorian 429 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: Finney Smith in the end. So yeah, the combination, we 430 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: don't know what the Lakers were willing to give up. Again, 431 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: they were pretty steadfast that they're only going to trade 432 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: with the Nets only going to give them what they want. 433 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: If Kyrie was willing to sign an extension for two years, 434 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: and Kyrie was August heels and has said no frickin way, 435 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: he wants a four year deal, and he wasn't. He 436 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: wasn't gonna do the Nets any favors. So we'll see 437 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: what the winkie wink is going on with Mark Cuban 438 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: if he's if he's told him, well, we'll take care 439 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: of you later on. And for some actual reporting, Lommary 440 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: of the Athletic did say that there was a significant 441 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: deal from the Clippers that had been made in this Yeah, 442 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: less than forty eight hour. I mean these teams jumped 443 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: on the horn real fast to make this happen. Because 444 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: the Clippers have made a significant deal. I don't know 445 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: what that means. Like you threw out the Terrence Man name. 446 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: See, I don't think it included Man, I don't. I 447 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: think it's a lot of those other guys I mentioned. 448 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so man, isn't you know, in the sort of 449 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 2: same ballpark as Spencer Dinwiddie. I guess you. I don't know. 450 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: He's a lot younger. I mean, there's a lot more promise. 451 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, who knows whatever significant means. But 452 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: they probably threw in a first round pick. Yeah. There 453 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: hasn't been incredible names in just being thrown out there 454 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: for Kyrie. 455 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Because I mean it could be. I mean, this is 456 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving. I mean, hell, he could not even play 457 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: for all we know, I would anybody gonna be all 458 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: that shocked if tomorrow goes Now, I don't want to 459 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: play in Dallas, probably not, That's probably not gonna be 460 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: the case. But it's Kyrie, So anything's on the table. 461 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: But tray the Lakers thing is interesting here, like Lebron tweeting, 462 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, some cryptic emojis. Obviously this idea like will 463 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: there be a third team roped in to move Westbrook 464 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: and all that? Will it just be Westbrook to the 465 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: nets with the picks and and then Kyrie and Joe 466 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: Harris coming back like that would have worked. A lot 467 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: of people, myself included, thought this was gonna end with 468 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving going to Lakers. I mean I definitely would 469 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: have been betting the farm on that. Instead he's going 470 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: to Dallas. But where do the Lakers, I guess go 471 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: from here? Like our fans gonna be upset with Polenka 472 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: and Genie Buss for not doing this. What's your take. 473 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: I think they'll be upset just because it feels like 474 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: the Lakers have been gearing up to make a move 475 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: and like it feels like Kyrie Irving is going to 476 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: be a Laker. 477 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: But I guess that's the thing. 478 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: Lakers fans should hope that they're just upset for six 479 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: months and that the deal all along has been we're 480 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 3: not giving up anything because we all know what's happening 481 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 3: in the summer right when we could just make a 482 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 3: move for it. So I wouldn't be surprised that that happens. Well, 483 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: you know, we'll see some freezing cold takes get pulled 484 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 3: up about how bad Rob Polink is doing, and then 485 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: suddenly Kyrie Irving joins Lebron and ad and really Hatcha 486 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: Mura and whoever else, whichever Bogdanovich they swing a deal 487 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 3: for at the deadline here. But that's the only thing 488 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: I can think is that the Lakers were reticent with 489 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: their assets because they assumed that they still have a 490 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: chance at Kyrie once free agency starts in the summer. 491 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: Yep, look cool, wait to find out more. I'm sure 492 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: from the Lakers side of things, and maybe these deals 493 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: that were proposed to the nets from some of the 494 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: other teams come out. Who knows what happens with KD. 495 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any final thoughts tests 496 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: We can probably start wrapping this up because we do 497 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: of a podcast tomorrow morning live at ten am Eastern 498 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: hit that like button subscribe any parting thoughts here, task 499 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: or tray on Kyrie Irving go into the Dallas Mavericks. 500 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: I will say he looks sharp in the Mavericks uniform 501 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: from those photoshops I saw I looked in the Lakers. 502 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: I thought he looked really good in the Lakers. But 503 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: some of the work I saw of him in a 504 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: maverickser bar was like, it looks cool. 505 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: I like it. 506 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like he's gonna be wearing number two? 507 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: Is that what people are assuming? 508 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: They? 509 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 3: Do? You have an eleven in Tim Hardaway Junior. Obviously 510 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: he's worn two earlier in his career. I don't think 511 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: it's retired for the Mavericks. 512 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 513 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 3: I wonder does Mark Cuban have a winkie wink or 514 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: is he just hoping that he gets Kyrie to Dallas 515 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 3: and can wile him with the facilities, with the way 516 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 3: they treat their superstars, with the way they bend over 517 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: backwards to make it a place you want to stick around, 518 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: because if not and Kyrie takes off. Yeah, the Mavericks 519 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 3: have a ton of cap space, but the Mavericks have 520 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: not done well in the past. When they've had a 521 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: ton of cap space, they're always in the running. It 522 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: was Dwight Howard once upon a time. It was Darren 523 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: Williams once upon a time. But maybe Cuban is thinking, 524 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: we've had trouble getting a second star to take our money, 525 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: so let's just get him here. We can then show 526 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: him all of the money and then he'll stick around. 527 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: But mad if he decides to go all in four 528 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: year max two hundred million, that's I guess we might 529 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: be talking about Luca on the market in not too long. 530 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: That's five seasons. 531 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think they are taking a risk, there's 532 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: no doubt. But in the end, they gave up Spencer Dinwiddie, 533 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: who's you know, getting towards thirty. He's reached his peak 534 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 2: as a player. They gave up a first round pick 535 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: Gibbs wants to make up for the dumb move of 536 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: letting Jalen Brunson go. That's I think that's clear, and 537 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 2: he was probably quick to act. I mean, it does. 538 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 2: It does feel shark tanky. I mean he'd put that. 539 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 2: He put that proposal on Sean Mark's desk and he said, 540 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna walk away. I'm gonna walk away, take it 541 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: or leave it, and uh yeah he was. He was 542 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: ready to. He jumped in the ring real quick, and 543 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: I guess other teams probably wanted a little more assurance 544 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 2: that Kyrie Irving was going to stick around. I do 545 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: think yeah, he can. He believes in that organization to 546 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: wow Kyrie into sticking around. And think about their team 547 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: last year in the postseason. I know Spencer didn't when 548 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: he hit big shots, but really, this is how far 549 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: Luca is going to take them, and he took them 550 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: real far last year, and if Kyrie's on board, I mean, 551 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: I don't think it's that far fetched to say they're 552 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: going to be another conference final and wow, yeah, I 553 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: mean I don't. I don't think it's that crazy. L 554 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 2: when you look at their lineup when they're starting Dwight 555 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: Powell at center and starting other. 556 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: Team at times, though, and especially in a in the playoffs, 557 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: he helps to play some defense. 558 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: I mean it was DFAs Story and Fittie Smith. 559 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: A great defender, and the wing. 560 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, alongside Dwight Powell and Reggie Bullock. Those three guys 561 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 2: were playing beside Brunson and Luca. And I know Brunson 562 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 2: is very solid defender. But Kyrie can play when he wants, 563 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: and I think they have enough bodies to make it 564 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: work if they're all in a good mood. And listen, 565 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: Kyrie's playing for a contract. So if he actually steps 566 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: on the floor and he actually and he actually puts 567 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: on that sweet looking number two, and they should be 568 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: pretty solid, very solid. I think. I don't think they're 569 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: a championship contender, but I could see them in a 570 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: conference finals. Wow. 571 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: Hey, maybe absolutely. Maybe. I'm not sure i'd go that 572 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: far yet with some of the other teams in the 573 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: Western Conference. But let's wait to se him play at 574 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: least one game. I guess he'll play before. Yeah, he'll 575 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: definitely play before the All Star break. I keep thinking 576 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: the All Star Break is at the end of this week, 577 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: but it's the trade deadline at the end of this 578 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: week on Thursday, and then the All Star break after 579 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: So we should, in theory get a couple Kyrie Luca 580 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: games before they maybe play on the same team together. 581 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Is what's Lebron gonna do? Is Lebron gonna like now, 582 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: refuse to draft Kyrie in the All Star Game? Does 583 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: he have to refuse and draft not draft Luca? Does 584 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: he take both of them? Man Well, adds a lot 585 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: of complexity to the All Star Game draft that they're 586 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: doing live. 587 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: I think he's gotta take him. Lebron has to take 588 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 3: him because once Kyrie then joins his All Star team, 589 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: tampering rules are fly out the window. You can have 590 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: any sort of a chat that you want to have 591 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: about a contract for the summer. 592 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: Fair, fair, fair, all right here it is for the 593 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: final time, guys, for everybody joining us on YouTube. Kyrie 594 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: and Marquis Morris to the Dallas Mavericks Spencer Dinwity. During Finney, 595 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: Smith and those future picks won a first rounder in 596 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: twenty nine and then a couple there in twenty seventy 597 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: nine second round picks going to the Brooklyn Nets. It 598 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: is emergency podcast season in the No Dunks Land. Hopefully 599 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: we have a couple more of these. Maybe not today, 600 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: I would like to enjoy the rest of my Sunday, 601 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: but this coming week will be Uh. We're basically made living. 602 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: Bring your sleeping bags to the Classic Factory. We're never 603 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: leaving bringing bags. That's right, that's right. But thanks for 604 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 1: joining us. I'm sure there were a lot of new 605 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: people here. We love it. Hit the like button and 606 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: subscribe to No Duncks on YouTube. Share the show we 607 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: go live Monday through Friday at ten am Eastern if 608 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: you want to join us live and obviously gets flipped 609 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: into a podcast, so search for No Dunks wherever you 610 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: download and listen to podcasts as well. Okay, let's call 611 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: it there. We're gonna be talking about it a lot 612 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: more tomorrow morning. Man, I wonder if this is gonna 613 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: be sad Clipper bro because they missed out on the 614 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: Kyrie Sweeps day. Let's hear from you heard it here first, 615 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: have a great time, turn up, love you guys. Awesome. 616 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: Damn. 617 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 2: He's excited. He's still happy. 618 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: He loves they do and give up man talent. 619 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 3: Man. 620 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: He likes it that they didn't take a risk. I 621 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 2: gotta get off here, man, I'm starting to think the 622 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: Masks can win this whole thing. I gotta, I gotta go, 623 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: I gotta. 624 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: Got found is buying a plane ticket the Dallas for 625 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: the parade. I love it all right, everybody, take care. 626 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow morning. 627 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: Peace. 628 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: You could stay boom every day and Aggie happy every minute. 629 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: It's been so long that your Funa play, It's happened already. 630 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Grevy