WEBVTT - Listener Mail: The Chosen Few

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of

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<v Speaker 1>My Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your

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<v Speaker 1>Mind the Listener Mail. This is Robert Lamb and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Joe McCormick. So we have someone. This is actually one

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<v Speaker 1>of these listener mails where we're recording this two weeks out,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, from when it's actually gonna air. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've sent out something more recently, well, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>accumulating in the mail bag and we'll have to get

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<v Speaker 1>to it. It's just in the bottom of the bag,

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<v Speaker 1>growing fungus in the dark. But I think it should

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<v Speaker 1>still be readable by the by the time we're back,

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<v Speaker 1>which if you're listening to this now we are. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping it's going to be filled with lots of accounts

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<v Speaker 1>of people's pet hermit crabs, people's people writing in about

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<v Speaker 1>their hermes, telling us what they eat, sending photos. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm looking forward to, all right, Let's see. This

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<v Speaker 1>first message comes from Benjamin and it is in regards

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<v Speaker 1>to Chainsaws and some previous listener mail. Benjamin says, hello,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff to blow your mind people. This message is in

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<v Speaker 1>reply to Chris's email from the Listener Mail episode released

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifteenth of November, after hearing about sideline enthusiasts

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<v Speaker 1>cheering on their favorite downhill mountain bike riders with a

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<v Speaker 1>bar less chainless chainsaw. I can understand your skepticism. I

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<v Speaker 1>would be willing to bet a brand new steel would

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<v Speaker 1>boss that this form of cheering has migrated over from motocross. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>this is speculation. However, I remember seeing fans cheering on

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<v Speaker 1>motocross riders using chainsaws sands bar with a set of

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<v Speaker 1>handlebars and number plate attached across the top when I

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<v Speaker 1>attended a race outside Pittsburgh in the late nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>This display makes slightly more sense as motocross bikes at

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<v Speaker 1>the time were mostly powered by two stroke engines, just

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<v Speaker 1>like most chainsaws. Oh and rob By the way, when

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<v Speaker 1>I I went back after we we read that email

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<v Speaker 1>from Chris, and I looked it up just to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure Chris was not lying to us. I did find

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of people using chainsaws on the sidelines at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the mountain biking events, so that that is apparently

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<v Speaker 1>at least sometimes true. Benjamin goes on, While I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the topic, I was waiting with bated breath through both

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<v Speaker 1>chainsaw episodes for Rob to at least mention all the

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<v Speaker 1>chain weapons in Warhammer forty thousand. While this class of

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<v Speaker 1>weapon is just as improbable as most of the weapons

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<v Speaker 1>technologies in said universe, your spotlight on the topic found

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<v Speaker 1>me looking at the forty K chain weapon art and

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed something I never had before. All the chain

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<v Speaker 1>weapons I've seen in forty K have the tooth pattern

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<v Speaker 1>associated with old saws, not the modern teeth patterned after

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<v Speaker 1>the grub mandibles. This hadn't come to my attention prior.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for all that you do, Benjamin. Wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>is some observation, Benjamin. So they've got the teeth would

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<v Speaker 1>be more like the scratching knife tip type teeth rather

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<v Speaker 1>than the uh, the the chiseling or chipper type teeth

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<v Speaker 1>that were designed by by Joseph Cox after observing the

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<v Speaker 1>pine sawyer beetle. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about this either.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Warhammer forty K chainsaws are probably the chainsaws

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<v Speaker 1>I look at more than real life chainsaws. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I guess part of it is like these

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<v Speaker 1>are based on miniatures that are gonna paint, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it works better to have those little teeth. And also Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they look like teeth. They look like jagged metal animal

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<v Speaker 1>teeth in this weird sword. So maybe it just works

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<v Speaker 1>better for a fantasy weapon. Rob. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I hadn't mentioned this off Mike. Since we did

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<v Speaker 1>our chainsaw episodes, I've actually had a chance to use

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<v Speaker 1>a chainsaw. Really. Yeah. My father in law brought one

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<v Speaker 1>over and we used it on some I was cutting

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<v Speaker 1>guns and brush in my yard. Yeah. Yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 1>do do proper safety and all that? I think, well, I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thinking back on it now, I didn't wear

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<v Speaker 1>goggles or eye protection and I did get some like

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<v Speaker 1>chips flying up in my eyes. So don't do what

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie don't does if you're using a chainsaw. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to all the others that, yeah, you should probably cover

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<v Speaker 1>up your eyes. I can speak from experience that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel good. Yeah, they never do this in the various

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<v Speaker 1>horror movies that we see, and um and you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Space Marines even they yes, they have the helmets,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to be wearing the helmets, but there are

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of images and figures where they've taken the helmet

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<v Speaker 1>off and they have a roaring chainsaw or chain sword

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<v Speaker 1>rather uh, and like, what are you doing? Guys? You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get all sorts of weird gunk in your eyeballs.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, in the ensuing days, I've ordered about three

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<v Speaker 1>dozen chainsaws off the internet. They should be arriving over

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<v Speaker 1>the next few weeks. There are some really interesting chaine

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing one at a store once where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even sure what function this was for, but it

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<v Speaker 1>like had a pair of jaws at the end and

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<v Speaker 1>the little tiny chainsaw inside of it, kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>xeno morph jaws. I'm I guess for some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>specialized like gripping of a tree branch and using the

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<v Speaker 1>saw blade. But it was, well, it was weird. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>was it a what's called it? Like a lapper chainsaw?

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<v Speaker 1>It kind of like combines like like clippers and chainsaw blades. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was. I just had to look

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<v Speaker 1>up this lapper chains how you're talking about, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is a strange device. It looks at it looks kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like scissors, but it's also a chainsaw. Crazy. There's

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<v Speaker 1>so many, so many chainsaw innovations these days. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess it did kind of look like this, uh, But

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if it also had like a little chainsaw inside

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<v Speaker 1>its mouth. All I can think of now is like

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<v Speaker 1>a sort of cyborg form of dentures where your teeth

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<v Speaker 1>are replaced with tiny chainsaws for enhanced chewing. Uh, well

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<v Speaker 1>I have it now, Joe. I'm totally ruining my my

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<v Speaker 1>shopping algorithm here by looking these things up. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think what I saw it was a jaw saw. So um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks like some sort of uh you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>Lows or home Depot Xeno morph with a little chainsaw

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<v Speaker 1>in its mouth. Oh, I see exactly what you mean. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's got a it's almost like a guide or

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<v Speaker 1>a guard in a y shape, and then coming out

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<v Speaker 1>like a tongue sticking out in between the jaws is

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the chainsaw. I guess this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a safety measure, Like it's a way of using making

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<v Speaker 1>use of the saw, but having within that protected like

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<v Speaker 1>the metal cuff of a mouth. That would make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet this kind of design is less likely to

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<v Speaker 1>kick back and like accidentally nick you in the leg

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I'd be interested to hear from anyone out

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<v Speaker 1>there who's used one of these. What's it like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep the chainsaw chat going. All right, here's the speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of chainsaw chat. Here's one from Anna um Anna says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have enjoyed the episodes about chainsaws, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>also enjoyed listeners responses to them. One thing I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about when I was listening to the episode is

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<v Speaker 1>the image of the lumberjack. They are generally seen as

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<v Speaker 1>assault of the earth type of people. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in Tasmania. We're logging was a big thing, so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that wood shopping was a sport that people would

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<v Speaker 1>go and watch. I don't know that if this is

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<v Speaker 1>popular elsewhere, but competitors would compete to see who could

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<v Speaker 1>chop through a log the fastest. I know you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about chainsaw horror movies. I was wondering if this

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<v Speaker 1>is just an upgrade of the ax murderer stories. I

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<v Speaker 1>had the idea that the chainsaw is seen as a

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<v Speaker 1>replacement for the hard working man with an AX. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>with this new technology, people are losing the value of

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<v Speaker 1>hard work, and maybe that is part of what makes

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<v Speaker 1>chainsaw murders so bad. I'm not sure if I am

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<v Speaker 1>overthinking this, but it was just a thought I had. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we talked about in the episodes, at least in

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<v Speaker 1>the case of the original Texas Chainsaw Masker. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Toby Hooper seems to have had some ideas about about

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<v Speaker 1>economics and work and consumerism in mind when when he

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<v Speaker 1>was making the first movie. Uh. And and it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>comes through in some of the satire in the second movie,

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<v Speaker 1>because the second movie has my favorite scene, and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is just a scene where Dennis Hopper goes

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<v Speaker 1>shopping for chainsaws. Oh yeah, and he gets the he

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<v Speaker 1>gets the two smaller saws to go in holsters, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he gets the big daddy saw as well. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just at the place shopping, and the shopkeeper there

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<v Speaker 1>is watching him, like pretending to duel, like seeing like

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<v Speaker 1>how it feels in his hands, swinging it at things.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we get We do get a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little chainsaw dueling in that film. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the first place we see it cinematically. It might be,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know that chainsaw dueling also shows up in

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<v Speaker 1>I think the second Phantasm movie and uh. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>more recently, there's a little bit of it in Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think was very much included as an homage

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<v Speaker 1>to these these pictures, I would say, and in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>based on what I have learned about chainsaws, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a very poor idea to try and do a

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<v Speaker 1>chainsaw duel. That sounds like a terrible choice. Terrible. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of curious to go back and watch these

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<v Speaker 1>sequences just to try and figure out how they did

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<v Speaker 1>it with any you know, even a monicum of safety,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, while making it look like the saws are

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<v Speaker 1>in fact running. Yeah, all right, Rob, you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>some messages about Dune? Oh always? Okay, Well, just real quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to read from Sean, who is following up

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<v Speaker 1>from something I said in our Done episodes. Sean says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and Robert, I'm listening to the Binny Jessrite episode

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<v Speaker 1>while running. It had to stop quickly just to say,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the same paperback copy of Done Joe had

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<v Speaker 1>with I would say six point font, the letters almost

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of the page, several lines on each page,

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<v Speaker 1>often at angles. Yeah, this I feel vindicated. This sounds

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<v Speaker 1>about right to my memory. Anyways, Sean says, love the

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<v Speaker 1>show back to the episode in my run, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>might have had a copy like that at some point

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<v Speaker 1>when I was younger. I think, uh, I think text

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<v Speaker 1>that size would just be absolutely painful for me. At

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<v Speaker 1>this point, I'm currently rereading a Dune on a kindle,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it means I can change the font size

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<v Speaker 1>to whatever suits me. Seems perfect. All right, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>read also this message from Renata discussing Dune as well

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<v Speaker 1>as a recent Vault episode about mushroom forging. Alright, Renata says, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe and Rob, I loved your recent vault episode on

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<v Speaker 1>mushroom forging. You seem impressed that deer will eat just

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<v Speaker 1>enough of a toxic food to get a nutritional benefit

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<v Speaker 1>while avoiding the toxic effects. But I was surprised you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mention that humans are masters at this game. The

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<v Speaker 1>most clear example of this to me is alcohol. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember where I heard this theory. Uh. She thinks

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<v Speaker 1>possibly from us, so I don't remember us talking about this,

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<v Speaker 1>but she says, um, it is that humans developed a

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<v Speaker 1>liking for alcohol because in our primate ancestors, it's signaled

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<v Speaker 1>that a fruit is ripe, therefore containing more sugars. If

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<v Speaker 1>they eat just enough of a fruit as it begins

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<v Speaker 1>to ferment, they get maximum sugars if they wait too long,

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<v Speaker 1>they get intoxicated or maybe worse. There are plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>other examples. Pineapples contain bromolin, which is used as a

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<v Speaker 1>meat tenderizer and can cause your tongue to go numb

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<v Speaker 1>if you eat enough. I recently developed a sensitivity to

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<v Speaker 1>keen wa because it contains small amounts of sappinin, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a toxin but usually thoroughly washed off when you

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<v Speaker 1>prepare keenoa, but apparently if you're exposed to too much

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<v Speaker 1>of it once a faithful salad from a cafe. In

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<v Speaker 1>my case, even consuming miniscule amounts of it after that

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<v Speaker 1>will cause a reaction. For me that's hours of intense

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<v Speaker 1>stomach cramps. Many foods naturally contain inulin, which is not digestible,

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<v Speaker 1>but which is a prebiotic that can promote gut health.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite source is sun Chokes, but beware consuming too much.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out this Amazon review of gummy bears containing inulin

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<v Speaker 1>for some colorful descriptions of what can happen, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she links to Yeah use the reviews of a product

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<v Speaker 1>that apparently made people have a lot of defecation emergencies.

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to say sun chokes are are absolutely glorious.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not had them recently, but I love I

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<v Speaker 1>love my sun chokes or Jerusalem art at jokes if

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<v Speaker 1>you will also, I want to follow. I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>about sapping in on on Keenea. It is true that

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<v Speaker 1>um grains of quinoa are naturally they tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>coated in this uh, this organic substance called sapping in,

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of creates a foamy, soapy like texture sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when when combined with water. But I don't think that's

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<v Speaker 1>like a reason to be concerned about eating quinoa, Like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like there's not really usually enough of it

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<v Speaker 1>to hurt someone, and you can wash it off prior

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<v Speaker 1>to eating it. Apparently, some some types of quenwa that

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<v Speaker 1>they're sold will tell will instruct people to rinse it

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<v Speaker 1>before you cook it. Oh. But the thing about bromlin

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<v Speaker 1>too is interesting because I have seen bromelin used, like

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<v Speaker 1>Granada says, as a meat tenderizer, like people, uh, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of mashing up a big pineapple and then soaking some

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<v Speaker 1>some cut of meat in it in order to make

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<v Speaker 1>it make it more tender to the tooth. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had an incident once where I had

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of this was I don't know, this is

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<v Speaker 1>probably I think the fish dish, or maybe it was

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<v Speaker 1>back when I had when I still like chicken. But uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was some sort of meat and it had a

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<v Speaker 1>pineapple susa on it, and I let it set in

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge overnight, and by the next morning, the the

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<v Speaker 1>pineapple had like just reduced the meat to mush. It's

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<v Speaker 1>quite interesting. Oh yeah, you don't want to You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to let your pineapple marinate go too long, or

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<v Speaker 1>your dinner will turn into a melt movie. Yeah, a fine,

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<v Speaker 1>a fine paste. Oh but Renata goes on talking about Dune,

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<v Speaker 1>so she says, I also wanted to comment that I

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<v Speaker 1>went into Dune nearly cold. I watched the Lynch adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>about six years ago, but was only half paying attention.

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<v Speaker 1>When I heard about the latest adaptation, I purposely avoided

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<v Speaker 1>Dune content so I could go in as cold as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I found it exceedingly easy to follow, and I thoroughly

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the film like you. I felt that it found

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<v Speaker 1>inventive ways to make the necessary exposition diverse, fun and clear.

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<v Speaker 1>The narration and on screen text at the beginning gave

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<v Speaker 1>way to dialogue that helped explain what was happening. But

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<v Speaker 1>most impressive to me was the way Vilnov teaches you

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<v Speaker 1>a visual and auditory language that lets you intuitively follow

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<v Speaker 1>the story without endless exposition all dialogue. My favorite example

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<v Speaker 1>was that of the force fields, which are blue when

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<v Speaker 1>they are effectively maintaining protection and read when they're penetrated.

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<v Speaker 1>This adaptation of Dune rivals my favorite film two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>one of Space Odyssey for being as close to cinematically

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<v Speaker 1>and technically flawless as you can get. Uh. Well, glad

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<v Speaker 1>to hear another good review. I I loved it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with Hi, think everything you say. I also

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<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed the color coding of of how the shields,

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<v Speaker 1>the energy shields were We're working because yeah, you could

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<v Speaker 1>see even from a distance, when somebody had managed to

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<v Speaker 1>to move the knife through the shields slow enough that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't deflected because everything would turn red suddenly. Yeah, finally,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, deeply appreciate your show. I can't stop sharing

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<v Speaker 1>anecdotes I learned with my friends, and listening has become

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<v Speaker 1>a big part of my daily routine. Thanks for making

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<v Speaker 1>new episodes and picking great Vault episodes. To share best Renata. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for writing in. Yeah, yeah, these are some

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<v Speaker 1>excellent thoughts. Uh yeah, I'm enjoying continuing to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>folks about the latest the latest Dune adaptation. Um, since

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<v Speaker 1>everyone enjoys fan casting so much, we should really get

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<v Speaker 1>in on this. This window we have right now before

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<v Speaker 1>they officially cast Um the Emperor and uh fade Ratha.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you think would be ideal to play these roles?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm excited to see who they pick. Fade

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<v Speaker 1>Rapha Sting again, Yeah, I mean stink Sting could totally

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That would be that would be interesting. He

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<v Speaker 1>has not actually aged a single day since the last movie.

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<v Speaker 1>For fade Ratha, I don't know, it's tempting to to

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<v Speaker 1>to want to go with one of the scars Guard children.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we have Papa scars Guard doing such a great

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<v Speaker 1>job as the Baron. Maybe get Bill scars Guard in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not endorsing this choice, but some people on the

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<v Speaker 1>internet apparently suggesting the guy who plays Joffrey in Game

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<v Speaker 1>of Thrones. I mean, I don't know, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>what he looks like these days. Um, he's still basically

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<v Speaker 1>a child actor. At the time, so maybe he's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's perfect for it. Now, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I would if I were him, I would if they

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<v Speaker 1>reached out, I would be hesitant because even as great

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<v Speaker 1>of a role as this would be, you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be typecast for the rest of your career as

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<v Speaker 1>a little fancy tyrant. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm looking at a present, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>current picture of him, and uh, I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he could do it, maybe maybe, maybe he is perfect

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I don't know. I'm still going with with

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<v Speaker 1>my gut and saying Bill scars guard. But but but again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to see what actually happens. And hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see what sort of suggestions are listeners make.

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<v Speaker 1>Vin Diesel al Right, here's another bit of listener mail.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen comes from Jim in New Jersey, and it's in

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<v Speaker 1>a response to the episode on luck Robert and Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to luck, here are my two favorite quotes.

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<v Speaker 1>The harder I work, the luckier I get. This is

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<v Speaker 1>attributed to too many to find its original author, and

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<v Speaker 1>then luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Uh. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is from Roman philosopher Seneca. I don't believe in luck,

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<v Speaker 1>but I consider myself a lucky person. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>how to resolve those inconsistencies. I never believed in lucky items,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had a few habits while taking tests in college.

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<v Speaker 1>Some may consider them superstitious based upon luck, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought of them as rituals and traditions. They included wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a wearing dark blue on the day of the test.

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<v Speaker 1>This was easy since it was a school color. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking four number two pencils wrapped in a rubber band

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<v Speaker 1>and a handheld eraser, and never taking any books or

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<v Speaker 1>notes unless it was an open book test or one

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<v Speaker 1>that allowed notes during the exam. These rituals got me

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<v Speaker 1>into a test taking mental state on the test day.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking books or notes not allowed during the test would

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<v Speaker 1>only encourage me to cram in the hallway immediately before

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<v Speaker 1>the test. I felt that was a crutch and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to enter the testing room with confidence. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>sure if I felt pity or disdain for those cramming

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<v Speaker 1>in the halls. I did pretty well in tests, so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it worked for me. Jim in New Jersey. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim coming in with like nerd swagger. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a yeah, you can get into the

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<v Speaker 1>topic of luck, though it gets so it's all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. So is the different ways we think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I don't even certainly I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we got into this conversation. But then there's this

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<v Speaker 1>whole like area two of like luck as how it

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<v Speaker 1>can be utilized as kind of like a toxic positivity,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like like overly reminding somebody of how lucky

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Oh, you're lucky for this. You're like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>lucky to have this or that or the other. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's just so many, so many dimensions to

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<v Speaker 1>the human concept of luck that you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>just discuss it almost endlessly. All right, Well, maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>should round things out with one last message on Weird

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<v Speaker 1>House Cinema And this, this one is a real treat

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<v Speaker 1>because this is a bit of listener mail from our

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<v Speaker 1>own producer Seth. It came into the mailbox and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what, Seth, is this from you? And he

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed it was. So I feel truly honored that that

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<v Speaker 1>Seth was inspired to chime in and take you to task.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, because so recently people were asking about the

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<v Speaker 1>Friday thirteen franchise, and I think a listener wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>to say, hey, I'm not sure you were right that

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<v Speaker 1>that Jason Vorhees becomes a revenant in the sixth movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a revenant since the beginning because they

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<v Speaker 1>say that he drowned many years ago. That's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the backstory, and my feeling on that as well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just a sloppy red con. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>say that at the beginning, and then they wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>make a second movie and they're like, well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's alive now, okay. But but Seth has an alternative vision,

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<v Speaker 1>so he says, in response to last week's Listener Maile episode,

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<v Speaker 1>where the concept of Jason Vorhees supernatural nature was discussed,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel the need to deliver what I believe is

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<v Speaker 1>the definitive answer to this question. Jason Vorhees is a

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<v Speaker 1>dead EyeT, if anyone is unaware, A dead EyeT is

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<v Speaker 1>a parasitic demon that feasts on the souls of living creatures,

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<v Speaker 1>found primarily in the Evil Dead franchise. And then he's

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<v Speaker 1>even got a whole timeline laid out, so he says

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<v Speaker 1>the truncated timeline would go like this. Pamela Vorhees was

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<v Speaker 1>the cook at Camp Crystal Lake. Her son Jason, drowned

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<v Speaker 1>while swimming in the lake because of a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>supervision from the counselors. Distraught, Pamela turns to dark magic

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<v Speaker 1>to revive her dead son. She uses the necronomicon Ex

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<v Speaker 1>Mortis to cast a resurrection spell of some sort, but

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<v Speaker 1>a human sacrifice is required. This is why she begins

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<v Speaker 1>her killing spree. By the end of the first film,

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<v Speaker 1>she has very nearly obtained the number of deaths required,

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<v Speaker 1>but while attempting to obtain her last soul, Alice, the

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<v Speaker 1>main character of the first Friday thirteenth movie, Pamela herself

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<v Speaker 1>is beheaded, thus becoming the final sacrificed soul. Very soon after,

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<v Speaker 1>we see a fully revived but quite ghoule ish Jason

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<v Speaker 1>erupt from the lake in the film's final jump scare.

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<v Speaker 1>There are fan theories of plenty on this topic, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is official corroboration as well. The director of Friday

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<v Speaker 1>the Thirteen Part nine Jason goes to Hell, which, to

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<v Speaker 1>add my side on this is an absolutely miserable atrocity

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<v Speaker 1>of a movie. Um even even like like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the other ones are bad but very fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Jason goes to Hell. I just dare you

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<v Speaker 1>to try to finish watching it, because I think you've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned before he does not actually go to Hell in

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<v Speaker 1>this right, This is not like Dante's Inferno sort of

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<v Speaker 1>uh plot line. Not only does he not go to Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time, he doesn't even appear on screen.

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<v Speaker 1>He just like Jason, possesses people. So it's just actors

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<v Speaker 1>walking around with like his soul in them. Man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just false advertising. Yeah, But anyway, to continue with seth

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts here, Seth says, the director of this movie, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Hell, Adam Marcus, went out of his way

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that Jason's dead eye status is an

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<v Speaker 1>official part of the Friday the Thirteenth canon by having

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<v Speaker 1>the Necronomicon ex mortis and the Candarian dagger. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a magic dagger. It appears in the ninth movie that is,

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason, the only thing that can kill Jason.

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<v Speaker 1>Um uh. To have these items be discovered in the

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<v Speaker 1>Vorhees home. Seth finishes up by saying, there there are

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<v Speaker 1>other bits of proof to be found throughout the series,

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<v Speaker 1>and it definitely adds an interesting layer of complexity the

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<v Speaker 1>whole franchise. Keep up the great work, Seth um Well, Seth, I,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't be more appreciative of you your sharing your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on the subject. But I'm gonna say I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is also obviously a late redcon. Surely Steve Minor

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<v Speaker 1>when he made the second Friday Thirteenth movie, did not

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<v Speaker 1>have any of this in his head. But but that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's okay. I I accept the you know, the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of franchise crossing Red Coons, that that that that works

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<v Speaker 1>for me well, and and then I think the other

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<v Speaker 1>part of this is that we at least we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get At some point, they were talking about doing

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<v Speaker 1>Ash from Evil Dad versus Freddie versus Jason type of

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<v Speaker 1>a film, and I think we ended up getting a

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<v Speaker 1>comic book instead, because you know, the forces didn't properly

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<v Speaker 1>align there, so the franchises were going to further converge,

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<v Speaker 1>like like star systems crashing into each other. I may

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<v Speaker 1>have mentioned this thought on the show before, but coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to the episode that Seth and I did in

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<v Speaker 1>October about a horror movie music. I would hold up

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Goes to Hell as probably the worst example of

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<v Speaker 1>film scoring I have ever heard it. The music in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie is so bad. The music is actually funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it, but you've mentioned this before, and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember looking it up thinking, well, it couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>that bad, surely, but it's it is that bad. It's

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<v Speaker 1>that I remember it being wretched, especially since I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the Friday Thirteenth movies. Of the things they're known for.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the great things is that that little sound

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<v Speaker 1>effect that that that part of the I guess you

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<v Speaker 1>would consider that part of the score, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>h the audio realm that Jason lives in, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>so effective. Oh yeah, yeah, the classic Harry man Fordini theme. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they still use that in in Jason

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<v Speaker 1>goes to Hell, but it I don't know. Allegedly the

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<v Speaker 1>music in in Jason Goes to Hell is by the

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<v Speaker 1>same composer as as the original one, Harry man Fordini,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. Something is wrong with it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the dynamics of it are just so It's just full

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<v Speaker 1>of constant stings that are not associated with anything happening

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. So you just get like, like minutes

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<v Speaker 1>at a time of just done, dudda done, dudda done.

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<v Speaker 1>It just stings and stings and stings, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>add up to anything. It's bizarre. Now, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>to be confused with the disco hit that that sprang

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Friday the thirteenth franchise. Right if we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that. I think we've talked about that on

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<v Speaker 1>the show before, right, disco hit. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about. Yeah, there was some bit of the

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<v Speaker 1>there was some musical bit from one of the Friday

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<v Speaker 1>the third teen films that became this big like disco

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<v Speaker 1>hit during the at that time. Okay, once again Seth

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<v Speaker 1>has the answers on this. He just cut in to

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. This is the theme song from Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Part three, another one of the worst entries in the franchise.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, oh yeah, yeah, but the music is solid.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great. Okay, Well, maybe I gotta go listen

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<v Speaker 1>to that right now. Well, I have a cute up

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<v Speaker 1>as well, so I'm gonna I'm gonna listen listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it right after we wrap here. So speaking of which

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<v Speaker 1>let's go ahead and close out this mail bag. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>recent episodes, some of our Crab episodes, perhaps uh, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the Vault episodes that are coming out, the more

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<v Speaker 1>recent Weird House Cinemas. All of it is fair game,

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