Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of
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Speaker 1: Mind the Listener Mail. This is Robert Lamb and I'm
Speaker 1: Joe McCormick. So we have someone. This is actually one
Speaker 1: of these listener mails where we're recording this two weeks out,
Speaker 1: I think, from when it's actually gonna air. So, um,
Speaker 1: if you've sent out something more recently, well, it's just
Speaker 1: accumulating in the mail bag and we'll have to get
Speaker 1: to it. It's just in the bottom of the bag,
Speaker 1: growing fungus in the dark. But I think it should
Speaker 1: still be readable by the by the time we're back,
Speaker 1: which if you're listening to this now we are. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping it's going to be filled with lots of accounts
Speaker 1: of people's pet hermit crabs, people's people writing in about
Speaker 1: their hermes, telling us what they eat, sending photos. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm looking forward to, all right, Let's see. This
Speaker 1: first message comes from Benjamin and it is in regards
Speaker 1: to Chainsaws and some previous listener mail. Benjamin says, hello,
Speaker 1: stuff to blow your mind people. This message is in
Speaker 1: reply to Chris's email from the Listener Mail episode released
Speaker 1: on the fifteenth of November, after hearing about sideline enthusiasts
Speaker 1: cheering on their favorite downhill mountain bike riders with a
Speaker 1: bar less chainless chainsaw. I can understand your skepticism. I
Speaker 1: would be willing to bet a brand new steel would
Speaker 1: boss that this form of cheering has migrated over from motocross. Granted,
Speaker 1: this is speculation. However, I remember seeing fans cheering on
Speaker 1: motocross riders using chainsaws sands bar with a set of
Speaker 1: handlebars and number plate attached across the top when I
Speaker 1: attended a race outside Pittsburgh in the late nineteen nineties.
Speaker 1: This display makes slightly more sense as motocross bikes at
Speaker 1: the time were mostly powered by two stroke engines, just
Speaker 1: like most chainsaws. Oh and rob By the way, when
Speaker 1: I I went back after we we read that email
Speaker 1: from Chris, and I looked it up just to make
Speaker 1: sure Chris was not lying to us. I did find
Speaker 1: evidence of people using chainsaws on the sidelines at the
Speaker 1: at the mountain biking events, so that that is apparently
Speaker 1: at least sometimes true. Benjamin goes on, While I'm on
Speaker 1: the topic, I was waiting with bated breath through both
Speaker 1: chainsaw episodes for Rob to at least mention all the
Speaker 1: chain weapons in Warhammer forty thousand. While this class of
Speaker 1: weapon is just as improbable as most of the weapons
Speaker 1: technologies in said universe, your spotlight on the topic found
Speaker 1: me looking at the forty K chain weapon art and
Speaker 1: I noticed something I never had before. All the chain
Speaker 1: weapons I've seen in forty K have the tooth pattern
Speaker 1: associated with old saws, not the modern teeth patterned after
Speaker 1: the grub mandibles. This hadn't come to my attention prior.
Speaker 1: Thank you for all that you do, Benjamin. Wow, that
Speaker 1: is some observation, Benjamin. So they've got the teeth would
Speaker 1: be more like the scratching knife tip type teeth rather
Speaker 1: than the uh, the the chiseling or chipper type teeth
Speaker 1: that were designed by by Joseph Cox after observing the
Speaker 1: pine sawyer beetle. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about this either.
Speaker 1: I mean, Warhammer forty K chainsaws are probably the chainsaws
Speaker 1: I look at more than real life chainsaws. Um, And
Speaker 1: I mean I guess part of it is like these
Speaker 1: are based on miniatures that are gonna paint, and maybe
Speaker 1: it works better to have those little teeth. And also Yeah,
Speaker 1: they look like teeth. They look like jagged metal animal
Speaker 1: teeth in this weird sword. So maybe it just works
Speaker 1: better for a fantasy weapon. Rob. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess I hadn't mentioned this off Mike. Since we did
Speaker 1: our chainsaw episodes, I've actually had a chance to use
Speaker 1: a chainsaw. Really. Yeah. My father in law brought one
Speaker 1: over and we used it on some I was cutting
Speaker 1: guns and brush in my yard. Yeah. Yeah, did you
Speaker 1: do do proper safety and all that? I think, well, I,
Speaker 1: you know, thinking back on it now, I didn't wear
Speaker 1: goggles or eye protection and I did get some like
Speaker 1: chips flying up in my eyes. So don't do what
Speaker 1: Donnie don't does if you're using a chainsaw. In addition
Speaker 1: to all the others that, yeah, you should probably cover
Speaker 1: up your eyes. I can speak from experience that doesn't
Speaker 1: feel good. Yeah, they never do this in the various
Speaker 1: horror movies that we see, and um and you know
Speaker 1: the Space Marines even they yes, they have the helmets,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be wearing the helmets, but there are
Speaker 1: plenty of images and figures where they've taken the helmet
Speaker 1: off and they have a roaring chainsaw or chain sword
Speaker 1: rather uh, and like, what are you doing? Guys? You're
Speaker 1: gonna get all sorts of weird gunk in your eyeballs.
Speaker 1: So anyway, in the ensuing days, I've ordered about three
Speaker 1: dozen chainsaws off the internet. They should be arriving over
Speaker 1: the next few weeks. There are some really interesting chaine
Speaker 1: I remember seeing one at a store once where I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure what function this was for, but it
Speaker 1: like had a pair of jaws at the end and
Speaker 1: the little tiny chainsaw inside of it, kind of like
Speaker 1: xeno morph jaws. I'm I guess for some sort of
Speaker 1: specialized like gripping of a tree branch and using the
Speaker 1: saw blade. But it was, well, it was weird. Oh
Speaker 1: was it a what's called it? Like a lapper chainsaw?
Speaker 1: It kind of like combines like like clippers and chainsaw blades. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was. I just had to look
Speaker 1: up this lapper chains how you're talking about, And this
Speaker 1: is a strange device. It looks at it looks kind
Speaker 1: of like scissors, but it's also a chainsaw. Crazy. There's
Speaker 1: so many, so many chainsaw innovations these days. But I
Speaker 1: guess it did kind of look like this, uh, But
Speaker 1: imagine if it also had like a little chainsaw inside
Speaker 1: its mouth. All I can think of now is like
Speaker 1: a sort of cyborg form of dentures where your teeth
Speaker 1: are replaced with tiny chainsaws for enhanced chewing. Uh, well
Speaker 1: I have it now, Joe. I'm totally ruining my my
Speaker 1: shopping algorithm here by looking these things up. But I
Speaker 1: think what I saw it was a jaw saw. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like some sort of uh you know, a
Speaker 1: Lows or home Depot Xeno morph with a little chainsaw
Speaker 1: in its mouth. Oh, I see exactly what you mean. Yes,
Speaker 1: so it's got a it's almost like a guide or
Speaker 1: a guard in a y shape, and then coming out
Speaker 1: like a tongue sticking out in between the jaws is
Speaker 1: the end of the chainsaw. I guess this is like
Speaker 1: a safety measure, Like it's a way of using making
Speaker 1: use of the saw, but having within that protected like
Speaker 1: the metal cuff of a mouth. That would make sense.
Speaker 1: I bet this kind of design is less likely to
Speaker 1: kick back and like accidentally nick you in the leg
Speaker 1: or something. I'd be interested to hear from anyone out
Speaker 1: there who's used one of these. What's it like, let's
Speaker 1: keep the chainsaw chat going. All right, here's the speaking
Speaker 1: of chainsaw chat. Here's one from Anna um Anna says,
Speaker 1: I have enjoyed the episodes about chainsaws, and I have
Speaker 1: also enjoyed listeners responses to them. One thing I was
Speaker 1: thinking about when I was listening to the episode is
Speaker 1: the image of the lumberjack. They are generally seen as
Speaker 1: assault of the earth type of people. I grew up
Speaker 1: in Tasmania. We're logging was a big thing, so much
Speaker 1: so that wood shopping was a sport that people would
Speaker 1: go and watch. I don't know that if this is
Speaker 1: popular elsewhere, but competitors would compete to see who could
Speaker 1: chop through a log the fastest. I know you were
Speaker 1: talking about chainsaw horror movies. I was wondering if this
Speaker 1: is just an upgrade of the ax murderer stories. I
Speaker 1: had the idea that the chainsaw is seen as a
Speaker 1: replacement for the hard working man with an AX. Now,
Speaker 1: with this new technology, people are losing the value of
Speaker 1: hard work, and maybe that is part of what makes
Speaker 1: chainsaw murders so bad. I'm not sure if I am
Speaker 1: overthinking this, but it was just a thought I had. Well,
Speaker 1: Like we talked about in the episodes, at least in
Speaker 1: the case of the original Texas Chainsaw Masker. I think
Speaker 1: Toby Hooper seems to have had some ideas about about
Speaker 1: economics and work and consumerism in mind when when he
Speaker 1: was making the first movie. Uh. And and it certainly
Speaker 1: comes through in some of the satire in the second movie,
Speaker 1: because the second movie has my favorite scene, and the
Speaker 1: whole thing is just a scene where Dennis Hopper goes
Speaker 1: shopping for chainsaws. Oh yeah, and he gets the he
Speaker 1: gets the two smaller saws to go in holsters, and
Speaker 1: then he gets the big daddy saw as well. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just at the place shopping, and the shopkeeper there
Speaker 1: is watching him, like pretending to duel, like seeing like
Speaker 1: how it feels in his hands, swinging it at things.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we get We do get a little a
Speaker 1: little chainsaw dueling in that film. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: that's the first place we see it cinematically. It might be,
Speaker 1: but I know that chainsaw dueling also shows up in
Speaker 1: I think the second Phantasm movie and uh. Of course,
Speaker 1: more recently, there's a little bit of it in Mandy,
Speaker 1: which I think was very much included as an homage
Speaker 1: to these these pictures, I would say, and in reality,
Speaker 1: based on what I have learned about chainsaws, it would
Speaker 1: be a very poor idea to try and do a
Speaker 1: chainsaw duel. That sounds like a terrible choice. Terrible. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious to go back and watch these
Speaker 1: sequences just to try and figure out how they did
Speaker 1: it with any you know, even a monicum of safety,
Speaker 1: you know, while making it look like the saws are
Speaker 1: in fact running. Yeah, all right, Rob, you ready for
Speaker 1: some messages about Dune? Oh always? Okay, Well, just real quickly,
Speaker 1: I wanted to read from Sean, who is following up
Speaker 1: from something I said in our Done episodes. Sean says, Hi,
Speaker 1: Joe and Robert, I'm listening to the Binny Jessrite episode
Speaker 1: while running. It had to stop quickly just to say,
Speaker 1: I remember the same paperback copy of Done Joe had
Speaker 1: with I would say six point font, the letters almost
Speaker 1: the edge of the page, several lines on each page,
Speaker 1: often at angles. Yeah, this I feel vindicated. This sounds
Speaker 1: about right to my memory. Anyways, Sean says, love the
Speaker 1: show back to the episode in my run, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: might have had a copy like that at some point
Speaker 1: when I was younger. I think, uh, I think text
Speaker 1: that size would just be absolutely painful for me. At
Speaker 1: this point, I'm currently rereading a Dune on a kindle,
Speaker 1: so that it means I can change the font size
Speaker 1: to whatever suits me. Seems perfect. All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read also this message from Renata discussing Dune as well
Speaker 1: as a recent Vault episode about mushroom forging. Alright, Renata says, Hi,
Speaker 1: Joe and Rob, I loved your recent vault episode on
Speaker 1: mushroom forging. You seem impressed that deer will eat just
Speaker 1: enough of a toxic food to get a nutritional benefit
Speaker 1: while avoiding the toxic effects. But I was surprised you
Speaker 1: didn't mention that humans are masters at this game. The
Speaker 1: most clear example of this to me is alcohol. I
Speaker 1: can't remember where I heard this theory. Uh. She thinks
Speaker 1: possibly from us, so I don't remember us talking about this,
Speaker 1: but she says, um, it is that humans developed a
Speaker 1: liking for alcohol because in our primate ancestors, it's signaled
Speaker 1: that a fruit is ripe, therefore containing more sugars. If
Speaker 1: they eat just enough of a fruit as it begins
Speaker 1: to ferment, they get maximum sugars if they wait too long,
Speaker 1: they get intoxicated or maybe worse. There are plenty of
Speaker 1: other examples. Pineapples contain bromolin, which is used as a
Speaker 1: meat tenderizer and can cause your tongue to go numb
Speaker 1: if you eat enough. I recently developed a sensitivity to
Speaker 1: keen wa because it contains small amounts of sappinin, which
Speaker 1: is a toxin but usually thoroughly washed off when you
Speaker 1: prepare keenoa, but apparently if you're exposed to too much
Speaker 1: of it once a faithful salad from a cafe. In
Speaker 1: my case, even consuming miniscule amounts of it after that
Speaker 1: will cause a reaction. For me that's hours of intense
Speaker 1: stomach cramps. Many foods naturally contain inulin, which is not digestible,
Speaker 1: but which is a prebiotic that can promote gut health.
Speaker 1: My favorite source is sun Chokes, but beware consuming too much.
Speaker 1: Check out this Amazon review of gummy bears containing inulin
Speaker 1: for some colorful descriptions of what can happen, and then
Speaker 1: she links to Yeah use the reviews of a product
Speaker 1: that apparently made people have a lot of defecation emergencies.
Speaker 1: I do have to say sun chokes are are absolutely glorious.
Speaker 1: I have not had them recently, but I love I
Speaker 1: love my sun chokes or Jerusalem art at jokes if
Speaker 1: you will also, I want to follow. I was reading
Speaker 1: about sapping in on on Keenea. It is true that
Speaker 1: um grains of quinoa are naturally they tend to be
Speaker 1: coated in this uh, this organic substance called sapping in,
Speaker 1: which kind of creates a foamy, soapy like texture sometimes
Speaker 1: when when combined with water. But I don't think that's
Speaker 1: like a reason to be concerned about eating quinoa, Like
Speaker 1: it seems like there's not really usually enough of it
Speaker 1: to hurt someone, and you can wash it off prior
Speaker 1: to eating it. Apparently, some some types of quenwa that
Speaker 1: they're sold will tell will instruct people to rinse it
Speaker 1: before you cook it. Oh. But the thing about bromlin
Speaker 1: too is interesting because I have seen bromelin used, like
Speaker 1: Granada says, as a meat tenderizer, like people, uh, sort
Speaker 1: of mashing up a big pineapple and then soaking some
Speaker 1: some cut of meat in it in order to make
Speaker 1: it make it more tender to the tooth. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I had an incident once where I had
Speaker 1: some sort of this was I don't know, this is
Speaker 1: probably I think the fish dish, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: back when I had when I still like chicken. But uh,
Speaker 1: there was some sort of meat and it had a
Speaker 1: pineapple susa on it, and I let it set in
Speaker 1: the fridge overnight, and by the next morning, the the
Speaker 1: pineapple had like just reduced the meat to mush. It's
Speaker 1: quite interesting. Oh yeah, you don't want to You don't
Speaker 1: want to let your pineapple marinate go too long, or
Speaker 1: your dinner will turn into a melt movie. Yeah, a fine,
Speaker 1: a fine paste. Oh but Renata goes on talking about Dune,
Speaker 1: so she says, I also wanted to comment that I
Speaker 1: went into Dune nearly cold. I watched the Lynch adaptation
Speaker 1: about six years ago, but was only half paying attention.
Speaker 1: When I heard about the latest adaptation, I purposely avoided
Speaker 1: Dune content so I could go in as cold as possible.
Speaker 1: I found it exceedingly easy to follow, and I thoroughly
Speaker 1: enjoyed the film like you. I felt that it found
Speaker 1: inventive ways to make the necessary exposition diverse, fun and clear.
Speaker 1: The narration and on screen text at the beginning gave
Speaker 1: way to dialogue that helped explain what was happening. But
Speaker 1: most impressive to me was the way Vilnov teaches you
Speaker 1: a visual and auditory language that lets you intuitively follow
Speaker 1: the story without endless exposition all dialogue. My favorite example
Speaker 1: was that of the force fields, which are blue when
Speaker 1: they are effectively maintaining protection and read when they're penetrated.
Speaker 1: This adaptation of Dune rivals my favorite film two thousand
Speaker 1: one of Space Odyssey for being as close to cinematically
Speaker 1: and technically flawless as you can get. Uh. Well, glad
Speaker 1: to hear another good review. I I loved it as well.
Speaker 1: I agree with Hi, think everything you say. I also
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the color coding of of how the shields,
Speaker 1: the energy shields were We're working because yeah, you could
Speaker 1: see even from a distance, when somebody had managed to
Speaker 1: to move the knife through the shields slow enough that
Speaker 1: it wasn't deflected because everything would turn red suddenly. Yeah, finally,
Speaker 1: she says, deeply appreciate your show. I can't stop sharing
Speaker 1: anecdotes I learned with my friends, and listening has become
Speaker 1: a big part of my daily routine. Thanks for making
Speaker 1: new episodes and picking great Vault episodes. To share best Renata. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for writing in. Yeah, yeah, these are some
Speaker 1: excellent thoughts. Uh yeah, I'm enjoying continuing to hear from
Speaker 1: folks about the latest the latest Dune adaptation. Um, since
Speaker 1: everyone enjoys fan casting so much, we should really get
Speaker 1: in on this. This window we have right now before
Speaker 1: they officially cast Um the Emperor and uh fade Ratha.
Speaker 1: Who do you think would be ideal to play these roles?
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm excited to see who they pick. Fade
Speaker 1: Rapha Sting again, Yeah, I mean stink Sting could totally
Speaker 1: do it. That would be that would be interesting. He
Speaker 1: has not actually aged a single day since the last movie.
Speaker 1: For fade Ratha, I don't know, it's tempting to to
Speaker 1: to want to go with one of the scars Guard children.
Speaker 1: Since we have Papa scars Guard doing such a great
Speaker 1: job as the Baron. Maybe get Bill scars Guard in there.
Speaker 1: I'm not endorsing this choice, but some people on the
Speaker 1: internet apparently suggesting the guy who plays Joffrey in Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones. I mean, I don't know, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: what he looks like these days. Um, he's still basically
Speaker 1: a child actor. At the time, so maybe he's maybe
Speaker 1: he's perfect for it. Now, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I would if I were him, I would if they
Speaker 1: reached out, I would be hesitant because even as great
Speaker 1: of a role as this would be, you don't want
Speaker 1: to be typecast for the rest of your career as
Speaker 1: a little fancy tyrant. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm looking at a present, you know,
Speaker 1: current picture of him, and uh, I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: he could do it, maybe maybe, maybe he is perfect
Speaker 1: for it. I don't know. I'm still going with with
Speaker 1: my gut and saying Bill scars guard. But but but again,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what actually happens. And hey, I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see what sort of suggestions are listeners make.
Speaker 1: Vin Diesel al Right, here's another bit of listener mail.
Speaker 1: Listen comes from Jim in New Jersey, and it's in
Speaker 1: a response to the episode on luck Robert and Joe.
Speaker 1: When it comes to luck, here are my two favorite quotes.
Speaker 1: The harder I work, the luckier I get. This is
Speaker 1: attributed to too many to find its original author, and
Speaker 1: then luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Uh. And this
Speaker 1: is from Roman philosopher Seneca. I don't believe in luck,
Speaker 1: but I consider myself a lucky person. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: how to resolve those inconsistencies. I never believed in lucky items,
Speaker 1: but I had a few habits while taking tests in college.
Speaker 1: Some may consider them superstitious based upon luck, but I
Speaker 1: thought of them as rituals and traditions. They included wearing
Speaker 1: a wearing dark blue on the day of the test.
Speaker 1: This was easy since it was a school color. Uh.
Speaker 1: Taking four number two pencils wrapped in a rubber band
Speaker 1: and a handheld eraser, and never taking any books or
Speaker 1: notes unless it was an open book test or one
Speaker 1: that allowed notes during the exam. These rituals got me
Speaker 1: into a test taking mental state on the test day.
Speaker 1: Taking books or notes not allowed during the test would
Speaker 1: only encourage me to cram in the hallway immediately before
Speaker 1: the test. I felt that was a crutch and I
Speaker 1: wanted to enter the testing room with confidence. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure if I felt pity or disdain for those cramming
Speaker 1: in the halls. I did pretty well in tests, so
Speaker 1: I guess it worked for me. Jim in New Jersey. Wow,
Speaker 1: Jim coming in with like nerd swagger. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: this is just a yeah, you can get into the
Speaker 1: topic of luck, though it gets so it's all over
Speaker 1: the place. So is the different ways we think about it,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I don't even certainly I don't
Speaker 1: think we got into this conversation. But then there's this
Speaker 1: whole like area two of like luck as how it
Speaker 1: can be utilized as kind of like a toxic positivity,
Speaker 1: you know, like like overly reminding somebody of how lucky
Speaker 1: they are. Oh, you're lucky for this. You're like, you're
Speaker 1: lucky to have this or that or the other. Um. So,
Speaker 1: I mean there's just so many, so many dimensions to
Speaker 1: the human concept of luck that you could you could
Speaker 1: just discuss it almost endlessly. All right, Well, maybe we
Speaker 1: should round things out with one last message on Weird
Speaker 1: House Cinema And this, this one is a real treat
Speaker 1: because this is a bit of listener mail from our
Speaker 1: own producer Seth. It came into the mailbox and I
Speaker 1: was like, what, Seth, is this from you? And he
Speaker 1: confirmed it was. So I feel truly honored that that
Speaker 1: Seth was inspired to chime in and take you to task.
Speaker 1: That's right, because so recently people were asking about the
Speaker 1: Friday thirteen franchise, and I think a listener wrote in
Speaker 1: to say, hey, I'm not sure you were right that
Speaker 1: that Jason Vorhees becomes a revenant in the sixth movie.
Speaker 1: I think he's a revenant since the beginning because they
Speaker 1: say that he drowned many years ago. That's sort of
Speaker 1: the backstory, and my feeling on that as well, I
Speaker 1: think it's just a sloppy red con. You know, they
Speaker 1: say that at the beginning, and then they wanted to
Speaker 1: make a second movie and they're like, well, you know
Speaker 1: he's alive now, okay. But but Seth has an alternative vision,
Speaker 1: so he says, in response to last week's Listener Maile episode,
Speaker 1: where the concept of Jason Vorhees supernatural nature was discussed,
Speaker 1: I feel the need to deliver what I believe is
Speaker 1: the definitive answer to this question. Jason Vorhees is a
Speaker 1: dead EyeT, if anyone is unaware, A dead EyeT is
Speaker 1: a parasitic demon that feasts on the souls of living creatures,
Speaker 1: found primarily in the Evil Dead franchise. And then he's
Speaker 1: even got a whole timeline laid out, so he says
Speaker 1: the truncated timeline would go like this. Pamela Vorhees was
Speaker 1: the cook at Camp Crystal Lake. Her son Jason, drowned
Speaker 1: while swimming in the lake because of a lack of
Speaker 1: supervision from the counselors. Distraught, Pamela turns to dark magic
Speaker 1: to revive her dead son. She uses the necronomicon Ex
Speaker 1: Mortis to cast a resurrection spell of some sort, but
Speaker 1: a human sacrifice is required. This is why she begins
Speaker 1: her killing spree. By the end of the first film,
Speaker 1: she has very nearly obtained the number of deaths required,
Speaker 1: but while attempting to obtain her last soul, Alice, the
Speaker 1: main character of the first Friday thirteenth movie, Pamela herself
Speaker 1: is beheaded, thus becoming the final sacrificed soul. Very soon after,
Speaker 1: we see a fully revived but quite ghoule ish Jason
Speaker 1: erupt from the lake in the film's final jump scare.
Speaker 1: There are fan theories of plenty on this topic, but
Speaker 1: there is official corroboration as well. The director of Friday
Speaker 1: the Thirteen Part nine Jason goes to Hell, which, to
Speaker 1: add my side on this is an absolutely miserable atrocity
Speaker 1: of a movie. Um even even like like a lot
Speaker 1: of the other ones are bad but very fun. I
Speaker 1: feel like Jason goes to Hell. I just dare you
Speaker 1: to try to finish watching it, because I think you've
Speaker 1: mentioned before he does not actually go to Hell in
Speaker 1: this right, This is not like Dante's Inferno sort of
Speaker 1: uh plot line. Not only does he not go to Hell,
Speaker 1: most of the time, he doesn't even appear on screen.
Speaker 1: He just like Jason, possesses people. So it's just actors
Speaker 1: walking around with like his soul in them. Man, that's
Speaker 1: just false advertising. Yeah, But anyway, to continue with seth
Speaker 1: thoughts here, Seth says, the director of this movie, Jason
Speaker 1: goes to Hell, Adam Marcus, went out of his way
Speaker 1: to make sure that Jason's dead eye status is an
Speaker 1: official part of the Friday the Thirteenth canon by having
Speaker 1: the Necronomicon ex mortis and the Candarian dagger. This is
Speaker 1: a magic dagger. It appears in the ninth movie that is,
Speaker 1: for some reason, the only thing that can kill Jason.
Speaker 1: Um uh. To have these items be discovered in the
Speaker 1: Vorhees home. Seth finishes up by saying, there there are
Speaker 1: other bits of proof to be found throughout the series,
Speaker 1: and it definitely adds an interesting layer of complexity the
Speaker 1: whole franchise. Keep up the great work, Seth um Well, Seth, I,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more appreciative of you your sharing your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the subject. But I'm gonna say I think
Speaker 1: this is also obviously a late redcon. Surely Steve Minor
Speaker 1: when he made the second Friday Thirteenth movie, did not
Speaker 1: have any of this in his head. But but that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's okay. I I accept the you know, the sort
Speaker 1: of franchise crossing Red Coons, that that that that works
Speaker 1: for me well, and and then I think the other
Speaker 1: part of this is that we at least we're going
Speaker 1: to get At some point, they were talking about doing
Speaker 1: Ash from Evil Dad versus Freddie versus Jason type of
Speaker 1: a film, and I think we ended up getting a
Speaker 1: comic book instead, because you know, the forces didn't properly
Speaker 1: align there, so the franchises were going to further converge,
Speaker 1: like like star systems crashing into each other. I may
Speaker 1: have mentioned this thought on the show before, but coming
Speaker 1: back to the episode that Seth and I did in
Speaker 1: October about a horror movie music. I would hold up
Speaker 1: Jason Goes to Hell as probably the worst example of
Speaker 1: film scoring I have ever heard it. The music in
Speaker 1: that movie is so bad. The music is actually funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, but you've mentioned this before, and
Speaker 1: I remember looking it up thinking, well, it couldn't be
Speaker 1: that bad, surely, but it's it is that bad. It's
Speaker 1: that I remember it being wretched, especially since I mean
Speaker 1: the Friday Thirteenth movies. Of the things they're known for.
Speaker 1: One of the great things is that that little sound
Speaker 1: effect that that that part of the I guess you
Speaker 1: would consider that part of the score, part of the
Speaker 1: h the audio realm that Jason lives in, like that's
Speaker 1: so effective. Oh yeah, yeah, the classic Harry man Fordini theme. Um,
Speaker 1: and I think they still use that in in Jason
Speaker 1: goes to Hell, but it I don't know. Allegedly the
Speaker 1: music in in Jason Goes to Hell is by the
Speaker 1: same composer as as the original one, Harry man Fordini,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Something is wrong with it. It's
Speaker 1: the dynamics of it are just so It's just full
Speaker 1: of constant stings that are not associated with anything happening
Speaker 1: on the screen. So you just get like, like minutes
Speaker 1: at a time of just done, dudda done, dudda done.
Speaker 1: It just stings and stings and stings, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: add up to anything. It's bizarre. Now, this is not
Speaker 1: to be confused with the disco hit that that sprang
Speaker 1: out of the Friday the thirteenth franchise. Right if we've
Speaker 1: talked about that. I think we've talked about that on
Speaker 1: the show before, right, disco hit. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Yeah, there was some bit of the
Speaker 1: there was some musical bit from one of the Friday
Speaker 1: the third teen films that became this big like disco
Speaker 1: hit during the at that time. Okay, once again Seth
Speaker 1: has the answers on this. He just cut in to
Speaker 1: let us know. This is the theme song from Friday
Speaker 1: Part three, another one of the worst entries in the franchise.
Speaker 1: I think, oh yeah, yeah, but the music is solid.
Speaker 1: This is great. Okay, Well, maybe I gotta go listen
Speaker 1: to that right now. Well, I have a cute up
Speaker 1: as well, so I'm gonna I'm gonna listen listen to
Speaker 1: it right after we wrap here. So speaking of which
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and close out this mail bag. But hey,
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