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Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This

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Speaker 1: is Cow's Week in Review with Ryan cow Calaan. Here's Cow.

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Speaker 1: The largemouth bass is out and the Florida bass is in,

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Speaker 1: at least according to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

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Speaker 1: The agency announced last week that what most people call

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Speaker 1: a large mouth will from henceforth be known as the

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Speaker 1: Florida bass. How can the Sunshine State rename America's most

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Speaker 1: popular game fish? A study published in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: in the journal Scientific Reports used genetic testing to confirm

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Speaker 1: that the Florida bass, which lives in Florida as well

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Speaker 1: as parts of Georgia, South Carolina, and North Carolina, is

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Speaker 1: in fact a distinct species of black bass. The American

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Speaker 1: Fishery Society confirmed those results, and the FWC is following suit.

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Speaker 1: There are actually nine commonly known species of black bass,

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Speaker 1: which all share the genus my crop Terras. The most

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Speaker 1: common are the largemouth and small mouth, but scientists have

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Speaker 1: also identified the Alabama bass, Guadaloupe bass, red eye bass,

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Speaker 1: shoal bass, spotted bass, and Suwani bass. However, this latest

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Speaker 1: genetic study identified a whopping nineteen black bass species, which

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Speaker 1: includes fourteen described species, the undescribed but well known alt

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Speaker 1: Maha bartroms and Choctaw basses, and two additional undescribed species

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Speaker 1: currently classified as smallmouth bass. I'd wager even diehard anglers

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Speaker 1: have a tough time distinguishing between these fish just by

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Speaker 1: looking at them, and the FWC admits that Florida bass

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Speaker 1: and largemouth are visually indistinguishable. This name change won't impact

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Speaker 1: any fishing regulations, but it will change what the fish

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Speaker 1: are called in those regulations. From now on, Florida bass

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Speaker 1: will take what used to be the scientific name for largemouth,

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Speaker 1: my crop Terra salmoides. Meanwhile, largemouth will now be known

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Speaker 1: as my crop terrace niagercans. Florida bass only live in

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Speaker 1: Florida and a few surrounding states, so if you live

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Speaker 1: in Alabama, Ohio, Texas, or most other states, you can

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Speaker 1: keep calling largemouth by their original name, or you can

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Speaker 1: do what most bass anglers do and use one of

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Speaker 1: their many nicknames hog, lunker, porker, bassquatch, bucket mouth, big mouth,

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Speaker 1: wide mouth, toad, pig, hoss, hat, kingpin, or my personal favorite,

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Speaker 1: hydrilla gorilla, whatever else you want to say about them.

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Speaker 1: You have to admit that bass anglers have away with words.

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Speaker 1: This week we've got knotty booboo or bad bears. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: still working on a catchy name. Wildlife, Crime, the mail

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Speaker 1: Bag and so much more. But first I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you about my week. And my week well you know,

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Speaker 1: like I already told you, I was down to Delta

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Speaker 1: Waterfowl Expo and Battown Rouge, Louisiana. Big thanks to everyone

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Speaker 1: who came by the booth. Lots of folks entered to

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Speaker 1: win our big Meat Eater Experiences giveaway in Venice, Louisiana

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Speaker 1: at the show. If you want a shot at winning

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Speaker 1: a fishing trip with the Meat Eater crew, check out

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Speaker 1: org and Howell for Wildlife. You can enter to win

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Speaker 1: a trip with us at all three of those locations,

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Speaker 1: three different sweepstakes, and of course, if you want to

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Speaker 1: guarantee a spot, use the codes that you find at

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Speaker 1: those orgs to get five hundred dollars donated from your

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Speaker 1: purchase at the meat Eater dot com to defending hunting freedoms,

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Speaker 1: ensuring access and ensuring quality habitat. On top of checking

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Speaker 1: out the trips, they checked out all that super sweet

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Speaker 1: First Light waterfowl gear. It's really neat, you know, being

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Speaker 1: around this First Light brand as long as I have

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Speaker 1: to see how much recognition the waterfowl gear is gaining

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Speaker 1: in the South, really neat. Got to talk with a

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Speaker 1: ton of people, got a bunch of feedback on what's working, awesome,

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Speaker 1: sure they get a mosquito bite free, sunburn free, no

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Speaker 1: bird flaring fun time in the marsh down there in Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: So again, thanks a bunch to everybody who came by

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Speaker 1: the booth. Tons of fun down there at the Delta Expo,

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Speaker 1: and the expo raised a ton of cash. Record attendance

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Speaker 1: for that three year old expo. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: So put that one on the calendar next year for

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Speaker 1: you and the kids. But that was last week. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm turning and burning for California. Gonna get a day

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Speaker 1: if diving in with Matt Bond and catch up on

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Speaker 1: the California Marine Protected Area situation. As I understand it,

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Speaker 1: but now onto the news. A black bear ander cub

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Speaker 1: According to the Associated Press, the officers arrived to a

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Speaker 1: first time in the past few years a black bear

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Speaker 1: a man in the northwestern part of the state noticed

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Speaker 1: These are two of the more dramatic instances of bear

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Speaker 1: human conflicts in Connecticut, but they're not the only ones.

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Speaker 1: The problem has gotten so bad that even the Associated

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Speaker 1: the past week, three bear human incidents were publicly reported

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Speaker 1: by the state Department of Energy and Environmental Protection. This

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Speaker 1: state's northwestern corner. Big thanks to rich Les Berants for

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Speaker 1: sending us that story. Rich said in his email quote,

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Speaker 1: if only there were a way to both control black

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Speaker 1: generating money for conservation. Rich is using a healthy amount

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Speaker 1: remains illegal to hunt or trap bears in Connecticut. This

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Speaker 1: kind of thing keeps up, however, they might reverse chorus

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Speaker 1: New Jersey last year. Moving on to the crime desk,

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Speaker 1: a Utah outfitter who allegedly guided Donald Trump Junior on

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Speaker 1: an illegal bear hunt has been sentenced to two months

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Speaker 1: one year commercial ban on federal land. But this particular

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Speaker 1: Wade Lemon was found guilty in federal court of advertising

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Speaker 1: shoot cougar. In these cases, the hunters didn't realize they

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Speaker 1: of like the difference there. Down in Florida, four men

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Speaker 1: Vernon Robert Flowers were charged with multiple felonies, including organized fraud,

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Speaker 1: conspiracy to organized fraud, cheating, and the unflawful use of

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Speaker 1: Collins operated the Razor Ranch Blanket Hunting Preserve and Hardee

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Speaker 1: Mills managed a game farm in Charlotte County Mills bred

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Speaker 1: the fake Osiola turkeys, and Mills and Beckham acted as guides.

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Speaker 1: shady taxidermist, Flowers mounted the fraudulent turkeys. As the owner

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Speaker 1: by receiving a ten percent kickback from Flowers for referring

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Speaker 1: little Internet slewthing on the wayback Machine reveals that, sure enough,

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Speaker 1: and called Osciola is the most coveted and sought after

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Speaker 1: much ado about nothing. Razor Ranch points out on its

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Speaker 1: as wild birds is obviously bad. I'd consider it fraud,

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Speaker 1: but what type of person cares about what subspecies of

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Speaker 1: turkey they were. One of the ultimate goals of most

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Speaker 1: This is when a hunter harvests all for subspecies of

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Speaker 1: the Rio grand, the mirriams, and the Osceola also called

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Speaker 1: the Florida wild turkey. Ossiola turkeys only live in Florida,

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Speaker 1: and so they're one of the toughest subspecies to get.

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Speaker 1: You can see how hunters chasing a grand slam would

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Speaker 1: to get one of these Florida birds, and you know,

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