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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 3: All that was nasty right there?

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Speaker 2: Drilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is balling, breaking on breaking

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Speaker 2: on swim to the ground by Puda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Thin's scarting nobody, Here's Paul Calvc.

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Speaker 3: You know, these things trend even in the preseason. Things

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Speaker 3: tend to happen in threes. There have already been two

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Speaker 3: media fire as of today. Let's not make a three people,

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Speaker 3: Danny Surrec Darren Urban yours truly poly podcast over here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's set expectations. Okay, that would be the

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Speaker 3: absolute floor. Let's not get fined now, whether you can

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Speaker 3: reach the ceiling. The ceiling is the roof, Danny, if

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Speaker 3: you're paying attention. According to Michael Jordan, the ceiling in

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Speaker 3: the preseason, obviously is still set by the Standard Bears,

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Speaker 3: who are the Baltimore Ravens. The preseason win streak is

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Speaker 3: now twenty four games in a row, going all the

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Speaker 3: way back to the final game of twenty fifteen, I believe.

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Speaker 4: So it's an amazing stat really, Paul.

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Speaker 3: It really is. Darren. Don't think you'll ever achieve that

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Speaker 3: sort of preseason glory to win twenty four games in

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Speaker 3: a row, but you can go down swinging on this

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Speaker 4: I am gonna do everything I can every time I'm

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Speaker 4: on the field, Paul or a podcast, to come out victorious.

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Speaker 3: And you were most definitely on the field today and

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Speaker 3: yesterday because that field was outdoors, as everybody hydrated accordingly

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Speaker 3: and properly.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I have a fan at my desk so I

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Speaker 5: can turn it on and cool off when I get

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Speaker 4: And we were under the shade for most of the

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Speaker 4: time too.

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Speaker 5: It was not as human as it was Tuesday, but

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Speaker 5: it was It was a little.

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Speaker 3: Toasty, So now put on pads and run around in

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Speaker 3: the direct sunlight for a good hour and a half

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Speaker 3: plus it's hot. I mean, I'd love to know what's

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Speaker 3: what some of the body weights are before and after

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Speaker 4: Good question.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if're peat I feel like though, I I'd

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Speaker 5: rather just if you're going to be out there in

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Speaker 5: the heat, I'd rather just be in pads running around sweaty,

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Speaker 5: knowing I could shower, rather than being outside getting sweaty

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Speaker 5: enough to where I come into my desk and have

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Speaker 5: to cool off and like reapply to yodorant and some perfume,

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Speaker 5: so I'm not sitting in the media room smelling from

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Speaker 3: And if anyone would know, it would be Darren, because

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Speaker 3: you two normally sit next to each other.

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Speaker 4: So that's going I don't know, true.

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Speaker 5: I reapplied to it, and I spray, I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: be considered of you, Darren.

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Speaker 4: It's very kind of you, Danny.

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Speaker 3: The fact she brought that up is that maybe a

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Speaker 3: message to you, Darren, is not is that a roundabout here?

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Speaker 3: Is that around about? Here's what I'm doing. I wish

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Speaker 3: We'll revisit that a little bit later. So preseason week

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Speaker 3: number two, at least on the game schedule, Cardinals getting

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Speaker 3: Preseason week number one obviously culminated in the game Friday

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Speaker 3: Let's get some basic takeaways here, Danny Surrek, you're batting leadoff.

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Speaker 5: I think when you're thinking about what you want to

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Speaker 5: It's it's hard because this is a different coaching staff,

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Speaker 5: because things are so different. But didn't seem like they

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Speaker 3: You know, I've gone back, I've listened to a number

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Speaker 3: and you forget how often the Cardinals fought the play

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Speaker 3: the play clock. Oh, I mean, how many timeouts were

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Speaker 4: Well, especially in a first preseason game, You're assuming something's

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Speaker 3: New offense, a new offensive coordinator, you have a rookie

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Speaker 4: So in fact, they were so good about making sure

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a little confounding that had us in

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Speaker 3: Which if you watch any of the other preseason games

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Speaker 3: I thought the tackling normally preseason game number one tackling

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think I think the pass rush and

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Speaker 4: considering how much we wondered about that. Now again, preseason,

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Speaker 4: But I liked what I saw. I thought Zavian Collins

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Speaker 4: But I mean, all you can do is measure at

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Speaker 4: were more pluses than minuses in this game in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: You know, I cited the front seven against the Denver

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Speaker 3: were just uncertain what you were going to get. Drew

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Speaker 3: So we'll see if Patrick Mahomes can pull that off.

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Speaker 3: We know he won a Super Bowl. After he lost

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Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill, he just lost two more receivers. They have

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Speaker 5: That just made me think of Paul of last year

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Speaker 5: And I'm intrigued to see Isaiah Simmons, how much time

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Speaker 5: a matchup with Tidaen Travis Kelcey. Right, that was kind

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Speaker 3: And honestly, that Week one game might have been the

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Speaker 3: worst game by the Cardinals defense all year. Yeah, just

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Speaker 3: based on the fact they were discombobulated Isaiah Simmons quality word.

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Speaker 3: They remove the green dot from Isaiah Simmons and gave

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Speaker 3: what happens. Once again, it's about evaluation. It's not about

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Speaker 3: It helps prove everything you're doing is working. It eliminates

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Speaker 3: what he's doing. You got the win. It was very clean,

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Speaker 3: the two point conversion. Everything worked precisely as you drew

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Speaker 4: Man, holy shots fired early on. It's just the preseason, Poulli.

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Speaker 4: I like. It did feel like a lot of things

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Speaker 3: Same deal with Antonio Hamilton. We obviously called his name

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Speaker 3: I would say, in general, though, where the Cardinals are

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Speaker 3: And don't think like d Line in particular isn't still

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things, though, when you look at

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Speaker 3: And that's what's so intriguing, because we don't totally know

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Speaker 4: I can't believe they're not just giving you all that information, Paul.

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Speaker 2: My J.

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Speaker 3: Sanders I think as has popped a little bit and

437
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Speaker 3: practice this week. I'm curious to see what he looks like

438
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Speaker 3: in preseason game number two. And then of course you

439
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Speaker 3: got the second round rookie bg O Jalai, who at

440
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Speaker 3: some point you got to imagine is gonna be a factor.

441
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Speaker 3: And then on top of that, we've even seen Jesse

442
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Speaker 3: Luketa and Victor d. Mucage run with the ones during practice.

443
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Speaker 3: So on game day, how many edge guys are you

444
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Speaker 3: rotating in and out?

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Speaker 4: Well you could really it's it's like the old I'm

446
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Speaker 4: gonna go with the hot hand. In terms of running backs,

447
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Speaker 4: I mean, you you do get a benefit of These

448
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Speaker 4: are the kinds of guys that you're gonna want to

449
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Speaker 4: have up anyways, because those are the that's the bulk

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Speaker 4: of your special teamers. So if that, if they're gonna

451
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Speaker 4: be available, yeah, you could put him in there. And

452
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Speaker 4: and if it's the right situation, like I'm curious to know,

453
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Speaker 4: like is Dennis Gardick in your base defense? Like he's

454
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Speaker 4: not your typical run defender necessarily, so do you want

455
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Speaker 4: him out there? Or and and here's the other thing

456
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Speaker 4: is we don't know, Like bjo Jali has barely been

457
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Speaker 4: back to practice, so when he finally finds his rhythm,

458
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Speaker 4: does that impact the depth chart? It very well could.

459
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Speaker 4: Or Cam Thomas for instance, who's been banged up this

460
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Speaker 4: week and after the game and apparently is hurt right now.

461
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Speaker 4: But you know where where can he stand? And he,

462
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Speaker 4: by the way, did he lose weight? Like he looks

463
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Speaker 4: more streamlined.

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Speaker 3: So here's the way. And I confirm this before the

465
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Speaker 3: game when I talked to him, and because he told

466
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Speaker 3: us in the Big Red Rage last year he played

467
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Speaker 3: at two fifty five. He got up to two seventy

468
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Speaker 3: in the offseason, but dropped his body fat percentage. Okay, wow,

469
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Speaker 3: and then he lost and then as expected, he lost

470
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Speaker 3: five pounds over the first ten days or so a

471
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Speaker 3: camp to get down to two sixty five. That's where

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Speaker 3: he says he intends to play. That's what he said.

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Speaker 3: What he also said, and this could be the subject

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Speaker 3: of a good story for Razycardinals dot com. Calvicy consulting

475
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Speaker 3: over here, he said he had sort of this body

476
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Speaker 3: mass index study or some sort of test conducted, and

477
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Speaker 3: they said he easily, feasibly could carry three hundred pounds.

478
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Speaker 3: His brother is a three hundred pound defensive lineman. His

479
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Speaker 3: dad was a three hundred pound football player once upon

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Speaker 3: a time. So if you're thinking dot dot dot that

481
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Speaker 3: he might end up like a Zach Allen down the line. Yeah,

482
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Speaker 3: he apparently does have the frame the body type to

483
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Speaker 3: handle something like that, if that's the direction they go.

484
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Speaker 3: So Cam Thomas is a work in progress in a

485
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Speaker 3: lot of ways, both in terms of only a second

486
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Speaker 3: year guy. We didn't get a lot of reps last year,

487
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Speaker 3: but when he did, his name got called sort of

488
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Speaker 3: like my J. Sanders. When my J Sanders did get

489
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Speaker 3: reps and games and the coaches felt like they could

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Speaker 3: trust him, he made plays. He made noise out there.

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Speaker 3: So I'm intrigued by both guys, although I just had

492
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Speaker 3: an alarm go off on my phone. We spend way

493
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Speaker 3: too much time talking Cardinals football without talking about Clayton tune,

494
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Speaker 3: so we got to bring it back. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: no mention significantly Clayton tune yet. I mean that's what

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Speaker 3: the people want. They want QB talking the preseason, did you.

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Speaker 4: Did you come up with some catchy phrase for Clayton

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Speaker 4: tun yet? Like I Andy or Isaiah?

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Speaker 3: Do they have a tune one? You don't have to

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Speaker 3: update your Bingo card. There's been nothing.

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Speaker 5: That's no shoot, I forgot I got a mark from

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Speaker 5: the last one at sat Firm Stadium. Remember when he

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Speaker 5: said HEASEI and I didn't have my card Bingo.

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Speaker 3: It's tough. That's tough the way that works Bingo Paul Oh,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think the statute of limitations

506
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Speaker 3: is run out on that. I believe.

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Speaker 4: I can't believe you don't have a Clayton tune esque.

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Speaker 6: It'll be on the next Bingo card.

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Speaker 3: I want to see it out of them. Look Bryce

510
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Speaker 3: Young number one pick in the draft. C J. Stroud,

511
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Speaker 3: number two pick in the draft, Will Levis round two pick.

512
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Speaker 3: Rookie quarterbacks everywhere in their first preseason game didn't look

513
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Speaker 3: too capable. There were a lot of really bad rookie moments.

514
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Speaker 4: As a quick sideline to that, the Anthony Richardson was

515
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Speaker 4: named the starter for this season for the Colts. Bryce

516
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Speaker 4: Young the same with the Panthers, and it looks like

517
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Speaker 4: c J. Stroud is going to be with the Texans,

518
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Speaker 4: And quite frankly, if you're a Cardinals fan, you've got

519
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Speaker 4: to be praying that c J. Stroud is the starter

520
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Speaker 4: right away for the Texans.

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Speaker 3: And the only quarterback that look worse than all those

522
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Speaker 3: guys combined, Trey Lance. Go watch his playing time because

523
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Speaker 3: I did the other day Raiders and Niners. That was

524
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Speaker 3: that bad.

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Speaker 5: Did you see that quote by Shanahan about brock Party

526
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Speaker 5: that he would have to melt to lose the starting job.

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Speaker 4: Then don't come to Arizona?

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Speaker 6: Good one, Darren. I thought it was a pretty good quote.

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Speaker 3: Though. It was a good quote anyway.

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Speaker 4: I asked, you need to get those kind of quotes

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Speaker 4: out of Gannon in your interview is Danny because.

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Speaker 3: Sir speaking of because we need Clayton tune content. I

533
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Speaker 3: asked Jonathan Gannon earlier today, what did we learn or

534
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Speaker 3: what did he learn in particular over the course of

535
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Speaker 3: his first NFL game, and Gann has sent among other things,

536
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Speaker 3: just to focus on the details, get the details right.

537
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Speaker 3: He's got to get all the details right before he

538
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Speaker 3: can have a realistic chance at having a successful play.

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Speaker 3: And so it's all those aspects of being a quarterback

540
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Speaker 3: and operating the offense. And but he continues to get

541
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Speaker 3: reps with that first team offense right. And they said

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Speaker 3: that he was going to see some stuff in practice

543
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Speaker 3: by design from the Cardinals defense this week to try

544
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Speaker 3: and quote confuse the young quarterbacks. So we'll see, we'll

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Speaker 3: see as for where it stands in terms of whether

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Speaker 3: the rookie might have any chance of ousting Colt McCoy,

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Speaker 3: I think it was just verified what we've been saying

548
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Speaker 3: all along, that that's not happening.

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Speaker 2: I think Colt.

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Speaker 3: McCoy looks sharp enough and Clayton Clayton Tune looked like

551
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Speaker 3: a rookie enough bad. I'm going to stop talking, Danny, No,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think I think if anything, it's still it still

554
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Speaker 5: feels like Clayton Tune is going to back up Colt

555
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Speaker 5: McCoy and then when Kyler Murray comes back, will be

556
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Speaker 5: your third string quarterback. It doesn't the game doesn't feel like,

557
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Speaker 5: you know, despite that game winning touchdown by David Blaou

558
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Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily feel like Blao has done anything to take

559
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Speaker 5: over that backup QB spot over Clayton Tune, Which makes

560
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Speaker 5: sense to me of what you were saying earlier, Paul

561
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Speaker 5: of you know, the time is now to start playing

562
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Speaker 5: these younger players, and I think that's true to a

563
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Speaker 5: certain extent. You're still wanting to put players out there

564
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Speaker 5: who are going to give you your best chance to

565
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Speaker 5: be successful. But when you're talking about a backup QB,

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Speaker 5: I mean we can assume that that's what the goal

567
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Speaker 5: is with Clayton Tune is to have him become the

568
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Speaker 5: type of quarterback that you can rely on behind Kyler

569
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Speaker 5: Murray that if he needs to fill in the way

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Speaker 5: that Colt McCoy has, that Tune can be able to

571
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Speaker 5: do that. And so that makes sense for me.

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Speaker 6: I know some.

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Speaker 5: People are clamoring to have Clayton Tune start the season

574
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Speaker 5: and all of that, and that just doesn't really make

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Speaker 5: sense to me unless unless somehow Clayton Tune does surpass

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Speaker 5: Colt McCoy and they feel that strongly about it. But

577
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Speaker 5: from the sense of simply trying to get the rookie

578
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Speaker 5: those reps that that's just not the coaching staff. Any

579
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Speaker 5: coaching staff isn't going to put their team and that

580
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Speaker 5: rookie quarterback in that position. But I do like the

581
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Speaker 5: idea of Clayton Tune getting most of these reps in

582
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Speaker 5: the preseason games and getting still getting those second team

583
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Speaker 5: reps in practice to really try and get comfortable in

584
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Speaker 5: that role they want him to be in.

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Speaker 3: You can basically count the number of made men, so

586
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Speaker 3: to speak, on this roster. On one hand, it's Kyler,

587
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Speaker 3: it's Buddha, it's Jane Sames Connor, it's DJ Humphries.

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Speaker 4: You can kind of tell is Zia White who were

589
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Speaker 4: held out of the game, yes, and didn't have to

590
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Speaker 4: play even though they were healthy.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's good point. What do they all have in common? Yeah,

592
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Speaker 3: all were on the sidelines by design by the coaching stat.

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Speaker 4: Kyler's still on POP sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

594
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Speaker 3: And then zach Ertz who came off Pop. So, Okay,

595
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Speaker 3: there's a guy who year eleven, but if he's healthy,

596
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Speaker 3: he going to play. Zach Ertz.

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, they still need I mean Trey McBride

598
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Speaker 4: hasn't practiced a lot. I mean, zach Ertz is needed

599
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Speaker 4: on this offense, no doubt, and it'll be interesting to see.

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Speaker 4: I'm assuming he does not play in the preseason, so

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Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see what he looks like in

602
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Speaker 4: week one if he's playing, assuming he will well.

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Speaker 5: Not only that, and again, every injury, every rehab and

604
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Speaker 5: recovery is different, and I don't want this to come

605
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Speaker 5: out in any sort of you know, official comparison of

606
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Speaker 5: ACL recoveries.

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Speaker 4: But don't don't don't record this Cody that she doesn't

608
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Speaker 4: want to.

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Speaker 6: Turn off the recording. Bring it right back on after.

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Speaker 5: If you're looking at the time zach Ertz came back,

611
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Speaker 5: is four weeks before week one, right, yeah, And so

612
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Speaker 5: if you're trying to maybe get an idea of one

613
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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray would come back, his injury was three or

614
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Speaker 5: four weeks after zach Ertz. But I guess the with

615
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Speaker 5: the surgery a good four issue weeks. So then if

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Speaker 5: you say that that would put Kyler coming in if

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Speaker 5: it were the same timeline, if.

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Speaker 4: It were the same timeline, which, as you just said, everybody's.

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Speaker 6: Different, and I do think that would be week five.

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Speaker 4: Right, So then then the question becomes if if that

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Speaker 4: is what you think is possible, then you don't have

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Speaker 4: Kyler on PUP to start the year, right, because you

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Speaker 4: would want him practicing well before he's available to play,

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Speaker 4: So you would have to keep him off of PUP,

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Speaker 4: which means using up probably a fourth spot for a

626
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Speaker 4: quarterback on the roster, unless you're thinking about just going

627
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Speaker 4: ahead and having somebody on the practice squad and hope

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Speaker 4: nobody takes them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, with today's practice squad rules, would a David

630
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Speaker 3: Blouber Jeff drisk will be eligible?

631
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're eligible.

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Speaker 3: They're eligible? Okay?

633
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Speaker 4: Would they would absolutely be eligible, but they also would

634
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Speaker 4: be free to be plucked at any moment, And so

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Speaker 4: you know, are you comfortable with that? Are you comfortable

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Speaker 4: with you know, you could bring them up, but it

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Speaker 4: would also if you have somebody in the practice squad,

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Speaker 4: you would also it would also mean that you wouldn't

639
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Speaker 4: be able to take advantage of the new third quarterback rule,

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Speaker 4: true even if you had that practice squad quarterback up

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Speaker 4: on game day.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, look, I'm gonna double down on what I've

643
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 3: been saying for months. If if the Arizona Cardinals can

644
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Speaker 3: fix the offensive line, and we won't truly know until

645
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Speaker 3: week one. Hello, Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen and Chase

646
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Speaker 3: Young and Montese sweat that defensive line of washing and

647
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Speaker 3: by far the best position group. But if you can

648
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Speaker 3: fix the offensive line by the Arizona Cardinals, I'm more

649
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: than comfortable that you have enough weapons and James Connor,

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Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown, Rondell Moore, Zach Pascal, Michael Wilson, Greg Dortch,

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Speaker 3: Zach Ertz, Trey McBride, even Anoa Tangi I and then

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Speaker 3: you have just sway. I think you have more than

653
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Speaker 3: enough guys and weapons. Do distribute the ball and move

654
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Speaker 3: the ball if you can fix the offensive line. Do

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Speaker 3: they have that all pro receiver wide receiver one? No,

656
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Speaker 3: but you know what, it might actually help distribute the

657
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Speaker 3: ball a little more evenly and keep defenses honest if

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Speaker 3: you're not so reliant on that DeAndre Hopkins type receiver

659
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Speaker 3: that sucks all those targets his way.

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Speaker 4: I've never really saw you as mister sunny glass, half

661
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Speaker 4: full guy, Paul, But here we are.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking.

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Speaker 2: We got it.

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Speaker 5: At the end, they're saying that DeAndre Hopkins sucks all

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Speaker 5: the targets away.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, if you're a quarterback and you're thinking, I

667
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Speaker 3: have to get DeAndre Hopkins X number of targets per game,

668
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Speaker 3: then how much has that actually harmed the quarterback?

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Speaker 5: Might not be a problem in Tennessee with Treylon Burke's

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Speaker 5: going down with an injury of practice.

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Speaker 4: We're talking about that. I mean, it's it's I still

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Speaker 4: think you benefit from talent. And whether it's a DeAndre

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Speaker 4: Hopkins or you know whatever. I mean, nobody nobody ever

674
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Speaker 4: said to you, oh why the conversation always wasn't why

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Speaker 4: is fits sucking all these targets? It was always getting

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Speaker 4: Fits the ball more So.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying you're better without ATLTIC. I'm just saying

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Speaker 3: that you still have enough, and it might be you

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Speaker 3: might be keeping defenses a little more honest. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, a zach Ertz in this offense, if you

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Speaker 3: truly have play action, I mean, shoa hands. Can't we

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Speaker 3: all see zach Ertz on play action just working over

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Speaker 3: linebackers in the middle of the field, down the seams,

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Speaker 3: getting separation. What does he do best? Read coverage, find

685
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Speaker 3: open space within zones. That's what everyone raves about. I

686
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Speaker 3: can see zach Ertz having a huge year if he stays.

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Speaker 5: Healthy, especially I just I keep going back to what

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Speaker 5: we heard from Kyler Murray say last season of how

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Speaker 5: immediate that security blanket was with zach Ertz, how Kyler

690
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: had never had that at any point in his career,

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Speaker 5: and how immediate that connection was, and the things that

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Speaker 5: zach Ertz brings to this team.

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Speaker 6: He is a true reliable receiver.

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Speaker 5: And I just I think that, especially with Trey McBride

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Speaker 5: not getting a lot of practice and reps throughout training

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Speaker 5: camp for the undisclosed injury, we're not sure that he's

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Speaker 5: dealing with. I just I think there's still a lot

698
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Speaker 5: that needs to happen in that jump in Tray McBride's game,

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Speaker 5: just kind of all around in terms of blocking. We

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Speaker 5: saw a little bit of that last year. He didn't

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Speaker 5: have a ton of opportunities that having zach Ertz back

702
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Speaker 5: as your starting tight end is huge for this offense,

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Speaker 5: especially when we've heard how much Jonathan Gannon wants to

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Speaker 5: have twelve thirteen personnel out on the field.

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Speaker 3: I'll name drop Roy Jets stream Green Red White practice

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Speaker 3: down on the field. Just watching and he was looking

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Speaker 3: at Hollywood Brown and Rondel Moore, who were running some

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Speaker 3: of the reps in tandem, and just their speed, because

709
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Speaker 3: Roy was one of the all time great speed receivers

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Speaker 3: the NFL has ever known. And he said, he said,

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Speaker 3: he just turned and in general said, hey, play action.

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Speaker 3: If you have an offense that's gonna really feature play action,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to hit these guys down the field.

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Speaker 3: They can be more productive than they were in that

715
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Speaker 3: spread offense we've seen the last four years, just because

716
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Speaker 3: the prospect of the run will get them single coverage

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Speaker 3: and we'll take teams out of that too high shell. Look.

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Speaker 3: That was all where teams were so intent on keeping

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Speaker 3: everything in front of them and did so quite often successfully,

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Speaker 3: to the point where the Cardinals downfield passing game was

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Speaker 3: non existent to a large degree last year. That could

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Speaker 3: change as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure this could be a bit of hyperbole because

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Speaker 4: I do not have the nos in front of me,

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Speaker 4: but it feels like I've seen in practice and in

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Speaker 4: the one preseason game, it feels like I've seen more

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Speaker 4: play action in three weeks than i have in three years.

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Speaker 3: I would say the numbers would bear that out. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if Craig Griolu would actually get some work ethic this

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Speaker 3: training camp and actually crunch the numbers, we might not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on now, really can't spell Grieolou without

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Speaker 3: the AI.

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Speaker 5: I have nothing bad to say about you, Craig, because

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Speaker 5: I know you're listening.

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Speaker 3: I'm seeing I have something. I may have something bad

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Speaker 3: to say about someone here real soon here we go.

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Speaker 3: Here's the segue because on the show run Down here

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Speaker 3: Cardinals Underground brought to you by Pacific Office Automation DING

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Speaker 3: Garrett Williams. Soon question mark, that's one of the bullet points.

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Speaker 3: Am I missing something? Is there a Garrett Williams report

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Speaker 3: and or sighting? Are we expecting the third round corner

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Speaker 3: anytime soon?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: I mean I just I think to myself, this is

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Speaker 4: a guy who towards ACL in October. It's just kind

746
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 4: of the same thought process you just had with zach Ertz.

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Speaker 4: He's been running on the sideline. I mean, I haven't

748
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Speaker 4: heard anything, and he doesn't get brought up very much

749
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Speaker 4: because now Kyler is the story or has been the story.

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Speaker 4: But I mean we talk about the cornerback situation all

751
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Speaker 4: the time, and Kee Trell Clark I thought played pretty

752
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Speaker 4: well the other day, and whether it's him or Christian

753
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Speaker 4: Matthew to be the other starter, because I do think

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Speaker 4: they're going to go young there. But like, where does

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Speaker 4: Garrett Williams fit into this? He was a third round

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Speaker 4: pick and it's gonna take him a while to get

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Speaker 4: back up to speed, but at some point this season,

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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be in the mix.

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Speaker 3: I honestly, if he walked by right now, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: even recognize Garrett Willie.

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Speaker 4: That's just rude, Paul.

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Speaker 3: No. So when you say he's been running, like for example,

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Speaker 3: it was a weekend of camp and zach Ertz was

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Speaker 3: running before one of the camp practices and we saw

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Speaker 3: it from the press box and I think everyone included myself, like, wow,

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Speaker 3: zach Ertz looks pretty good running full out running routes

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Speaker 3: on air. But wow, he's moving really well. So I'm

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Speaker 3: I love to say that I've seen Garrett Williams and

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Speaker 3: could actually give you an assessment of how well he's moving,

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Speaker 3: But I have no idea. I haven't even seen him

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Speaker 3: out there, so but that would be huge if you

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Speaker 3: could get a Garrett Williams back and actually get him

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Speaker 3: significant reps soon.

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Speaker 4: And then again it's gonna be soon.

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Speaker 3: And get him regular season action. This year, the.

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Speaker 4: Question is going to be again like where does he

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Speaker 4: It's just like the Kyler Williams Kyler Murray question. Now

778
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Speaker 4: is I mean Garrett Williams is on the non football

779
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Speaker 4: injury list. It's not pop, but it's essentially the same rules.

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Speaker 4: What is he still there to begin the regular season?

781
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Speaker 4: Because if he is, then he's got to miss a

782
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Speaker 4: month like Murray would have to. Or do you put

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Speaker 4: him on the fifty three man roster so he can

784
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Speaker 4: get back to practice and then you're just not activating

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Speaker 4: him every week until he can play.

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Speaker 3: And by this this week, by the way, is sort

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Speaker 3: of a dry run for the regular season, right, Isn't

788
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Speaker 3: that the way Jonathan Gannon defines it, Isn't that what

789
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Speaker 3: they're trying to emulate is going into this Saturday game

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Speaker 3: against Kansas City, they've had what they want a trial

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Speaker 3: runs a game week because then the week after the

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Speaker 3: going to Minnesota, and then the week after that there's

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Speaker 3: gonna be final cuts and it's gonna be Labor Day

794
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: weekend and then boom, you come out of that with Washington.

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Speaker 3: So this is the week where they try and simulate

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Speaker 3: what practices in a schedule and meetings and all everything,

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Speaker 3: all the above might look like as you get into

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Speaker 3: the regular season. Correct.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's to a certain extent, Jonathan I was

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Speaker 5: talking about. You know, they're not going doing scout team

801
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 5: out of practice. They're not necessarily game planning for the Chiefs.

802
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 5: It's still more focused on them, but it is the

803
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Speaker 5: idea and kind of that routine to get as close

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Speaker 5: as you can to emulating a regular week. Again, it's

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Speaker 5: still different because the first game was on a Friday

806
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Speaker 5: and the second and third preseason games are on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: so that's still a little different. But just trying to

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Speaker 5: get players in the right mindset and have an idea

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Speaker 5: and also the coaching staff. I mean, Gannon said there

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Speaker 5: have been things where whether it's like the schedule, you know,

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Speaker 5: things the coaches are doing where he thought himself, why

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Speaker 5: did I make that decision back in June, like we

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Speaker 5: need to change it to this. So it's important again

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Speaker 5: for everybody involved, just with so many new things happening

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Speaker 5: this season.

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Speaker 3: By the way he gave he gave us another saying

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Speaker 3: another JG isn't when it comes to the run game,

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Speaker 3: there's cram the ball vertical, which will always be number

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Speaker 3: one in the power pole.

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Speaker 4: You know what, Danny, I'm waiting for Paul to get

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Speaker 4: that tattoo.

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Speaker 3: By the way, then he gave us another one this

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Speaker 3: week when asked about the Old Line. You know, he said,

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Speaker 3: the objective is to quote create displacement. So if there's

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Speaker 3: a big chunk run, you know what did the Old

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Speaker 3: Line just do when they created a lane? They created displacement.

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Speaker 3: I like that. It's sort of I mean, it's sort

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Speaker 3: of like there was a difference between high school and college.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's the vernacular goes along with it create displacement.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 3: By the way, when when DJ Humphries was asked who's

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Speaker 3: the meanest dude in the Old Line room, what was

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Speaker 3: the answer again, he named.

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Speaker 5: Himself himself, Well, Hernandez will Hernandez Y, Paris Johnson, and

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Speaker 5: then Paris Johnson. He said he's got a little a

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Speaker 5: hole in him. I think is what he said.

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Speaker 4: That's a quote, that's a direct quote. You're not even

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Speaker 4: censoring it. That's the That's the exact thing he said.

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Speaker 3: He said, Paris Johnson Junior will drive you to the

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Speaker 3: ground and then lay on your little boot and just

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Speaker 3: oh sorry, I'm having a hard time getting up and

842
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: feel that forearm across your neck, you know that kind

843
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: of thing. Or I'll use your face to get up

844
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Speaker 3: off the ground with some of that old stuff. So

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Speaker 3: that's uh, that's good. That was That was good to hear.

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Speaker 5: Humphrey said that something he took from BA was that

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Speaker 5: the two type of players, you could be a sickham

848
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Speaker 5: or a woe player of Okay, we need a little

849
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 5: more from you, or okay, we're getting a lot for me.

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Speaker 5: We kind of need to tone it back a little bit,

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Speaker 5: and you want to be a woe player, and he

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00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: said they have plenty of those, and it's fun to see.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fun to see DJ Humphries talk to

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Speaker 5: and talk about Paris Johnson. I mean, not many players

855
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Speaker 5: when you're a left tackle and six overall draft pick

856
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 5: is an offensive lineman who a lot of the assumption

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Speaker 5: is that will be Humphrey's future replacement Paris Johnson, who's

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Speaker 5: currently playing on the right side. But you wouldn't necessarily

859
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Speaker 5: expect to maybe see the type of relationship we have

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Speaker 5: seen blossom between the two of them and Humphries as

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Speaker 5: even said, you know, I want to be that type

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Speaker 5: of leader, that type of person that's going to make

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Speaker 5: him in this team better. And I'm you know, I'm

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00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: still here right like, I'm not worried about losing my job.

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Speaker 5: I'm still here. But it's fun to see the two

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Speaker 5: of them interact and hearing what Humphreys had to say

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Speaker 5: about how Johnson played in his first preseason game Friday.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, watching Humphries say that Johnson is a woe

869
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 5: guy and kind of you know, that's a lot, maybe

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Speaker 5: tone it back a little.

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Speaker 6: That's good to hear.

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00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 4: That was always the bea thing, yep, And I had

873
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: never heard it before BA and now.

874
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 3: And honestly, at first sight early in the career of

875
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Paris Johnson junior, he definitely has some similarities to DJ

876
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 3: Humphrey's personality in that outgoing, highly intelligent, good sense of humor,

877
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: good smile, has other interests beyond football. But on game day,

878
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: look out, different dude. We hosted d Jumfrey's Big Red

879
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: Raid Show for several years, right got to know him

880
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 3: really well, but on game day didn't even make eye

881
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 3: contact with him. He was a different guy. And that's

882
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: the way we've seen Paris at least how Paris Johnson

883
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 3: Junior has been described to us, and my initial interview

884
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Speaker 3: the day after he was drafted on the Big Red

885
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: Rage as well, he talked about that how he has

886
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: like this twenty four hour transformation process, how he just

887
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: becomes this game day savage and it starts the day

888
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: before the game and then when he wakes up, and

889
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 3: then by the time they kicked that thing off, he's

890
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: ready to drive guys all the way into the Gatoray bucket.

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00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 5: I love to see that firsthand because DJ's got how

892
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 5: many how many kids? He e right now, he's got

893
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: another on the way, and he's just such a bubbly, lovable,

894
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 5: friendly person that I'm thinking, how do you get to

895
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 5: be that type of savage when you're still at home

896
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 5: playing dad to your kids who don't know any Differently,

897
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 5: I'd be curious to know what that process entails.

898
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 4: It's kind of I mean, you think about like Will

899
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 4: Hernandez is kind of Will Hernandez is the nicest guy, but.

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00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 6: I was so friendly, I wouldn't want to f with

901
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 6: him the refrigerator.

902
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are guys you're right who on game day

903
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: Will scare you, you know, whether it's DJ and his demeanor,

904
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: will Hernandez just to yell to fro Holt and just

905
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: you know the guy you know, Magnus for a fro

906
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: Holt with his Atlas stones in the weight room. Okay,

907
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: his reputation precedes him. But the guy who has that

908
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: look in his eye almost all the time is Marquis Hayes.

909
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: DJ Humprey is also put in the top three of

910
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 3: meanest dudes in that room. Big Moey calls him. I'm

911
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: absolutely shocked. Maybe the most shocking non happening of Cards

912
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: Camp so far is that Marquis Hayes hasn't been involved

913
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: in a fight some sort of skirmish.

914
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 5: Yet, right, But that's highly discouraged now. So that's why

915
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 5: it doesn't necessarily surprise me as somebody who's really trying

916
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 5: to make the team and trying to maybe you know,

917
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 5: be a second stringer like that doesn't entirely surprise me

918
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: because Gannon has made it clear. But it also doesn't

919
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: surprise me to hear he was one of the names

920
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 5: listed by Humphries because I can for sure.

921
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 4: See that It'll be interesting to see what happens with

922
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 4: the Vikings players.

923
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's where we get to see it.

924
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: In fact, you see the brawl between the Ravens and

925
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: Commanders early in that joint practice. In fact, there were

926
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 3: two brawls. There was one between a receiver and dB

927
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 3: and then the second part two. The rematch was former

928
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Scott's del Desert Mountain tight end Mark Andrews picking up

929
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: a corner in body slamming them right to the ground.

930
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: That started another one.

931
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: Then the uh, the Jets were practicing with somebody I

932
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: believe Jets and Bucks, okay, and they canceled the second

933
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 4: practice in part because they didn't they didn't want things

934
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 4: to get two heated before their game, and so they

935
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: just had a bunch of fights in the first practice

936
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Speaker 4: they had. And then today apparently there's been like five

937
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 4: fights between the Rams and Cowboys.

938
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 6: That's it and Cowboys.

939
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe it.

940
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: Maybe, well, I think I haven't seen a video. I

941
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 5: think maybe you're thinking of the tweet I saw of

942
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 5: Rams and Raiders. Maybe Max Crosby and can't make her

943
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 5: that's the one that I saw.

944
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a video, but I saw somebody said

945
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons got no fight.

946
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: That was That was cowboys versus cowboys.

947
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 5: They've had from what I've seen, two scuffles at practice.

948
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: I'm struggling keeping all my fights that was cowboys against

949
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: Thank you for setting me straight.

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00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: Well, Darren's out of practice. There haven't been any fights really.

951
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 3: They old j Collier and Dennis Daily, but that was

952
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: snuffed out quickly and then boom, they had to have

953
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 3: the walk of shame off the field. So Darren, you're

954
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: out of practice. You know you can knock some rust off.

955
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: So do you expect to fight against the Vikings or not?

956
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah or nay? Will there be a fight?

957
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 6: Yay? And I'm here for it.

958
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 4: Well you're obviously you're cheering it yo.

959
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 6: Yay.

960
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 3: Sounds like Danny's trying to speak it into existence. Honestly,

961
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 3: she's so enthusiastic about the prospect thereof So.

962
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 6: Okay, well, Paul, I've got work too.

963
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: I've got to make a new bingo card because I

964
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 5: have bingo from this one that took you a long

965
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 5: time for me to hit. I have I have cow

966
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Speaker 5: VC consulting Dan and Isaiah.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

968
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: Oh we gonna have Are we gonna have Minnesota bingo?

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00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 5: We going to bring them to minute because we're doing

971
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 5: a podcast podcast. Yes, if I can get it done

972
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Speaker 5: in time.

973
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Speaker 4: Sure, I don't want to put you out, Danny. Know,

974
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 4: let's let's not you know, you got a lot of

975
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 4: stuff on your plate.

976
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: Is dominion of the American on the on the Bingo card.

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Speaker 3: By the way, because my new favorite player is Deuce

978
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: Vaughn speaking to the Cowboys. Have you seen this guy,

979
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,879
Speaker 3: the five foot five running back.

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00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 5: His dad, Chris is actually a longtime scout with the

981
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 5: Cowboys who I have done like some features on and stuff.

982
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, I've known about Deuce Chris Vaughan, you know,

983
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 5: the second of being out there out of Kansas State. Yeah,

984
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: he's looked He's looked good from what I've seen online.

985
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: The Deuce is loose. That is great. That's good stuff

986
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: over there. So okay, all right, so Danny wins on

987
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 3: the Bengo card.

988
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 6: But to come full circle one one, me and Darren.

989
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: To come full circle, you have twenty three to go

990
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: to match the Baltimore Ravens preseason win straight and that'll

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Speaker 3: do it for this edition at Cardinals Inground brought to

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