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Speaker 1: We're we're speaking to you the day after the Academy Awards.

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Speaker 1: And so it's now a world where we can say

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Speaker 1: Award winner Amy Madigan, we can say all these things.

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Speaker 1: a Record of the Year winner.

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Speaker 2: The inaugural Record of the Year winner. That part it's

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Speaker 2: which you. I'm sorry I have to call you out

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Speaker 1: Call you out positive positively.

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Speaker 2: You had to as if she needed a reminder. You

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Speaker 2: a Culture Award winner, a Record of the Year.

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Speaker 1: We're starting to tease this year's Cultural Awards. Maybe our

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Speaker 2: Appear, perhaps a traitorous return, chance for chance to dream.

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Speaker 1: Suffice it to say that this has been a moment

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Speaker 1: highly anticipated. We've been so thrilled with the sort of

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Speaker 1: resurgence of our guests on our screens because the screens

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Speaker 1: have lacked. But I'm saying about our guests.

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Speaker 2: But she, and we'll get into this, but like she

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Speaker 2: heard of it, heard of it, raising a child, and

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Speaker 2: lest we forget, while she was promoting deep Space, she

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Speaker 1: Her fucking mba.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like she like this, This woman doesn't pause, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, accomplished revenue streams. Learn from the guests, Learn from

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Speaker 1: the guests. I mean if.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if only you knew, if only you, and

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Speaker 3: after this episode you will know, so you may know

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Speaker 3: our guests from again an iconic turn on The Traders.

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Speaker 1: Prior to that, Real Housewives of Potomac, a storied legacy

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Speaker 1: on that show and a fabulous singer. We were streaming

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Speaker 1: Deep Space. You should be to the new single if

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Speaker 1: only and again it needs to be said and stated

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Speaker 1: and remembered that drive Back is the song. When I

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Speaker 2: We were watching the music video from the trailers on

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Speaker 2: the Fire Island movie.

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Speaker 1: Yes we were.

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Speaker 2: It was a part of our part of the Lord

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Speaker 2: and the process. It was a set song. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 2: she's We're so honored to be here. This has always

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Speaker 2: been a basset Hound podcast. Yeah, everyone, please welcome.

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Speaker 1: Cand of still looking guys direct.

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Speaker 4: Look at these you know Visa, They've they've been through

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Speaker 4: some things. I think I spilled like some something on them.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, they'll give them miss to here.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they have a you got I like, I'm plotsing,

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Speaker 4: like I just say, you all are so famous, your

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Speaker 1: What does that even mean of you?

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Speaker 4: I can't, I just can't. I'm like, I'm in off.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I've never been so excited to go

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Speaker 4: Time and from there I got to see you perform

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Speaker 1: Yes, the only time I got starstruck and nervous and

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Speaker 5: Damn it, we did not know.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I had such a time like yes and like.

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Speaker 5: Listen The Wicked of It, The Wicked of It.

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Speaker 2: They live the life there. They're completely off the gaard.

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Speaker 5: Listen, that's famous.

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Speaker 4: It's so strange. Yeah, it's like, why are you watching

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Speaker 2: Well, because I even right now, I must say being

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Speaker 4: I call it like you're because Chris blushes and' like

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Speaker 4: you're turning White people read.

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Speaker 2: But I think like, okay, we're saying before the mics

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Speaker 5: Give you, many reasons.

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Speaker 1: No, no relegiousness, No, please don't.

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Speaker 4: No, it's you know you you you leave those those

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Speaker 2: Exactly the curve. But then tell me this in a

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Speaker 4: True for me on my former cast.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Oh my god, the best vibe. Like when I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was weird, Like we know most of us.

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Speaker 2: Knew too, Yeah exactly, Yeah, I mean, is it confounding

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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody needs to chill out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's yeah. And you know what's crazy to

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Speaker 4: just I don't.

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Speaker 1: Think they're expecting the dimension that you guys bring to it.

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Speaker 1: I think because they are so cold about the game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: once they're reminded like that there is an option correct

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Speaker 1: to have an emotional angle. Yeah, you're like totally caught off.

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Speaker 1: You know who I still struggling with that Natalie Anderson,

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Speaker 1: who I stand from Survivor and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was just like, yeah, this is a different way

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Speaker 4: To see Yeah, no, but I didn't like, you want

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Speaker 1: Yes, just a little bit of this. It's also type

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Speaker 2: like you're saying, oh, I'm not thankfully, I'm understood. Was

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known. I wouldn't have known. I feel

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Speaker 4: I mean these were like huge crumb the whole oreos

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Speaker 1: Was like, I was like, the thing about Candice is

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Speaker 1: And you didn't you But that is the power of

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Speaker 4: They were. I mean, it was a really brilliant social experiment,

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Speaker 2: The mirror is ugly and shattered and fucked up a

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Speaker 1: It's society tends to get digmatized. It's actually real culture.

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Speaker 5: Somore, I'm screened.

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Speaker 2: We're just saying saying, but that moment, that moment between

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Speaker 2: you and Rob, that that's that seems so cinematic. I'm

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Speaker 4: It didn't feel like that. No moment, It did not

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Speaker 4: I was literally just like, okay, I know, you know

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Speaker 4: I'm clearing this desk and that one, I'm taking this

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Speaker 4: plant with me quote the agent African proverb from our uncle,

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Speaker 4: our uncle Denzel. I'm leaving here with something, yes, okay,

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Speaker 4: and this something is my dignity in my pride. Okay.

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Speaker 5: So I'm clear this desk and you go hear from me.

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Speaker 4: It was really just like I'm gonna make sure you

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Speaker 2: Vocal point in the in the season, in the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so in the tur your last turret with you and Rob,

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Speaker 2: because you've been saying, uh in interviews that like it

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Speaker 4: be good for me. It didn't matter, like I really,

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Speaker 4: but what I said was my regret was that I

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Speaker 4: But my my my worry was is we would be

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Speaker 2: It's so hard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like that I watch it and I'm like, again,

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Speaker 2: It is truly mice in a little maze. It's it says.

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Speaker 1: Something about the human brain that I think we haven't

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Speaker 4: And yet and I love Maura, but Maura, she I

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Speaker 1: We just need to find the designer one? Yes, I

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Speaker 4: I said it a million times. The Faithfuls needed to

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Speaker 4: They need to go to summer school.

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Speaker 1: Would you do an All Stars or another like competitive

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Speaker 4: If Traders does a and All Stars and they don't

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Speaker 5: This is what I know.

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Speaker 2: We really do.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't see another show like this that

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Speaker 4: I would do, like I'm not doing the challenge. I

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Speaker 4: don't want to do House of Villains. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to run anywhere else. I would run in Scotland because

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Speaker 4: I've done it already, and like terrain, I know the terrain,

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Speaker 4: but like I don't, don't ask me to sweat no more.

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Speaker 2: That is tough because it's not just sweating.

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Speaker 1: I think the thing that would bump me. And they

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Speaker 1: approached us for the show. They did, yes, they did.

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Speaker 1: What do we do what? I feel like we can't

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Speaker 2: It's a Johnny situation. Because we cannot go on together.

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Speaker 2: It's a matter of doing it or and or doing

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Speaker 2: where like we'll do it. I don't think we can

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Speaker 4: No, not necessarily, like you, well, you guys probably can't

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Speaker 4: lean into it. Yeah, exactly, they don't know like you.

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Speaker 4: There's no way they're gonna think you're both traders. You're

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Speaker 4: both like they don't know. Like the combinations are too,

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Speaker 4: but we're voting there right right right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I think though, and tell me if this

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Speaker 1: The worst thing that could ever happen is you go

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Speaker 1: And then you're like, fuck, I'm now burdened with this

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Speaker 1: because I have this person sitting here who knows me

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Speaker 1: you know, we were on a say, the same series

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Speaker 1: or whatever. It really knows you. Yes. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it would be possible for you as the trader to

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Speaker 5: Is that against the rules?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Then then, but I'm not to say that it can't happen.

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Speaker 2: I thought the only rule was traders can't out other

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Speaker 5: You can't do that either, right, I thought that was

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Speaker 4: No, you you can't, like, if you're a trader and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have to go right away.

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Speaker 4: But what you could do is you find a way

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Speaker 4: the long game. And you all are actors, you could

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Speaker 4: do it and it would be fucking hilarious. You would

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Speaker 5: Okay, so bad, but that's good TV.

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Speaker 4: So you find you go, you skulk off to the billiard,

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Speaker 4: the two of you, and you give that you like

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Speaker 1: But nothing happened. You think maybe there was some eyelash

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Speaker 1: She's indicated, she's indicated.

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Speaker 5: I cannot say the pearls are clutched.

439
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Speaker 4: What I will say is that I know what I

440
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:25,360
Speaker 4: was told, and I was told that somebody.

441
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Speaker 2: Was told that it was somebody told this great Yes

442
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: I was.

443
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Speaker 4: So there were many phone calls when we left the castle.

444
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 4: Coulton was one. He called me and he literally was like,

445
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 4: among other things, he was like, yeah, Rob told me

446
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,439
Speaker 4: you were a trader. Ah, So I mean what do

447
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 4: you what do you want me to think?

448
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can once you're once you're explicitly

449
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: given information, you then can't be mad that the person

450
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: is said I was given this information?

451
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 4: Now was it told?

452
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 5: I was?

453
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 4: I was under the impression that it was like said

454
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Speaker 4: within the confines of the game, because you can say,

455
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 4: like I feel like Boen is a trader because he

456
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 4: was like scratching weird, or he sneezed funny, or you

457
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 4: give a reason. So I was waiting all season to

458
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 4: be like, what where, where's the evidence? And there was

459
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 4: never a moment. So I was like, Okay, this is weird.

460
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 4: And I'm being like dragged and hung from crosses and

461
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,879
Speaker 4: wearing scarlet a's and t's on my.

462
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 5: Chest because you are accusing.

463
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 4: No, I'm literally just like processing information I was given.

464
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 4: But crucify me, you know, and.

465
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Speaker 1: You are one of the great verbal processors. I really

466
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Speaker 1: really are.

467
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Speaker 2: Wait hold on quickly, we got to go back to

468
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: a box of cry and goals. Why aren't we.

469
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Speaker 4: So there there is movement, Yes, it's not not happening there.

470
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is so exciting. And then did you so?

471
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you've talked about this before Are.

472
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: They pre folded? Where do those?

473
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: Where are those coming from?

474
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: Are you I fold them? Yeah?

475
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: They're beforehand or as the tears are coming.

476
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: As they're coming. I'm like, I'm swift, I'm quick with you. Yes, yes,

477
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 4: I'm at work, I'm doing side work.

478
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: Yes.

479
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now there there are situations like right now in

480
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 4: my purse there is one folded.

481
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 5: Okay, find them everywhere emotional.

482
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: Well, because I save them because it is a lot

483
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: of work and sometimes I just you want to have

484
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: one ready, so I probably have one in like every pocket.

485
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 4: Like I was doing laundry and you know when you

486
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: like put tissue in the laundry and it gets everywhere,

487
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: it's like, ohh a crying.

488
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the casualty of the laundry is this is prepping

489
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 2: them beforehand. Like mom brain, now is this a new thing?

490
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: Ever since the baby or.

491
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,120
Speaker 4: Mom brain would dictate that I wouldn't be doing shit

492
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 4: because I forgot.

493
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Speaker 1: Did that happen? Like did like once mom brain sets in,

494
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: like how did you change?

495
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, well I'm always sweating.

496
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Speaker 1: I'm not.

497
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 4: It's like, is this postpartum? Is this paramenopause? Is like

498
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 4: is the devil trying to smite me, like what's going on?

499
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: My My edges fell out, so I was fine, and

500
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 4: then all of a sud I woke up one morning

501
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 4: and just like bald right on my sideburns, they were

502
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: just gone. I was like, this is who is writing

503
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 4: this book?

504
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: This is terrible.

505
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: It's not good. I think your feet will grow, that's

506
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: what happens. I think I'm into now because I will

507
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 4: still I'm going to shove my foot into my wire.

508
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: I don't give a damn my he will be hanging

509
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 4: off the edge. Which I think my feet grew a

510
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: little bit because my shoes are a little more snug

511
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 4: some of them. What else you pee is not the same.

512
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 4: You can't hold it the same way. You gotta go

513
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: right away. And and I have a beautiful boy, Yes,

514
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 4: the best, most perfect boy everything.

515
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: He's so cutee. But then you went on this like postpartum,

516
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 2: which I didn't realize. Were this this like wonderful necessary

517
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 2: thing for new mothers where you're like, yes, go and

518
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: like the retreat convalesce.

519
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, Sanu was the name of the retreat. It's

520
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: in Tyson's Corner of Virginia. They are like when I

521
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 4: started hearing about these retreats years prior and they were

522
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 4: only like in New York in LA and I was like, well,

523
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 4: how do I can I like close up my COUCHI

524
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 4: and like run to New York after I give birth

525
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 4: to the baby, Like how do I do this? And

526
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: then they Sanu opened one in Tyson's and we partnered

527
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 4: and I was we were there for like four days.

528
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 4: They give you massages. I had like like engorged breasts,

529
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: and they have this this Chinese medicine doctor that came

530
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: and like gave me all these herbs. She literally like massage.

531
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,120
Speaker 4: She spent an hour on each breast. Wow, just massaging

532
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: the milk out because it was stuck and it wasn't

533
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 4: coming out. And that's you can get mestitis, which is

534
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 4: an infection, and it can you can die from my

535
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: possmidum is getting.

536
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, though I feel like no one really understands or

537
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: because when you're growing up as especially as a boy,

538
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 1: growing up, Yeah, it's just like oh woman, Andy, it is.

539
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: And then you become an adult and you realize what

540
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: you have to go through and you documented so much

541
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: of it on the show too, just in terms of

542
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: getting progress.

543
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 4: Yes, and that as another layer like when you are

544
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: dealing with fertility issues or like me, you want to

545
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: provide insurance for yourself by freezing eggs or embryos. That's

546
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 4: another layer that you're adding on top of that, because

547
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 4: now there's this physical part where you're having to like

548
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 4: give yourself shots of hormones. You have reactions to the hormones,

549
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 4: you have emotional physicals. There's all these reactions to this medication.

550
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 4: And then when after I got pregnant, I had to

551
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 4: do ten weeks of something called progesterone and oil just

552
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 4: to like tell my body that I'm pregnant so that

553
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 4: the baby would stay. So for ten weeks, I had

554
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 4: to give my selfie shots every day. At the same time,

555
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 4: I traveled my whole pregnancy, so at least four times

556
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 4: I had to give my selfie shots on an airplane.

557
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: And one time I took a video of me going

558
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: in the bathroom and it was like turbulent. So We're

559
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: like no, We're like bank head bouncing while I'm trying

560
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 4: to squeeze my ass and stick his needle in. It

561
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 4: was like what is going on? Yes, the trials and

562
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 4: like the women that do this because they have no

563
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 4: other choice, because you want a baby, you want a family,

564
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: this bad. I'm like, we are literal superheroes, we are wizards.

565
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 1: Of I also think that's one of the things about

566
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Housewives that I think is one of the most important,

567
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: is the way that so many more people understand IVF now,

568
00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't seeing any conversations about IVF, about the rain,

569
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 1: emotionally preparing to get pregnant, baby, like all of that.

570
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I think that because of the Housewives franchise, a whole

571
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: couple generations understands this, and mostly gay men that can

572
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: now relate to their female friends in a way that

573
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: they could not before because of the household.

574
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it's and I think there was like an

575
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: element of shame because it's like it's created for women

576
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 4: that cannot have children on their own. That was the intent,

577
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 4: and there's shame attached to that. It's like, why I'm

578
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 4: a woman. My body was made for me to be

579
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: able to give birth, that's the thought. And especially coming

580
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 4: from the South, it's like we are baby making machines,

581
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: Like that's the thought. So when you can't do this

582
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: thing that is supposed to be natural to you, it's like,

583
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: what's wrong with me?

584
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: And even if you tell yourself that's not a rational thought,

585
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: you still have it.

586
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: Like society says, like, you're a woman, you've got to

587
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: be able, what are what are you good? Or if

588
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 4: you can't have a baby, that's what the world tells you.

589
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: And women who don't want to have kids, it's like,

590
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: why don't you want to have kids? And it's like,

591
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 4: because fuck you, it's my uterus. I wanted to say empty,

592
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 4: like that's it. That's also a choice, yes, And there's

593
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 4: just there's so many stigmas attacked. We live in a

594
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: patriarchal society and everybody gives a fuck about what the

595
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: men say, not the women, and so it's just there

596
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: were so many narratives that me talking about it and

597
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 4: everybody else who's had the chance to discuss it, it

598
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 4: just brings it all to the kitchen table. And I

599
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 4: love that my story is like perpetuating all these different

600
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 4: narratives that can be discussed and make it make it sexy.

601
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: It's like I always say, you have to make things

602
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 4: sexy for them to then become like a part of

603
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 4: the conversation. And we're now talking about it.

604
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you made it's sexy.

605
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: It's sexy needles are sexy guys.

606
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: Also, I think it's like just hearing someone else say

607
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: out loud these things. Now people are like, oh, now

608
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: I at least know how to even say that out loud. Yes,

609
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,479
Speaker 1: you know, I could watch someone go through something and

610
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: be like, well if I couldn't think of a way

611
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: to verbalize that, I now have an option, yep, because

612
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: like people don't. So many people are not externalizers like

613
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: the three of us. Yes, you know what I mean?

614
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 2: Yes, And that was it.

615
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: That was another question I had for you prior to Housewives,

616
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: because obviously you come on Housewives, it had been an

617
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: established thing at that point. You know that the whole

618
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: gig of the show is conflict and resolution. Were you

619
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: always someone that was comfortable with conflict?

620
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: No, Oh my god, I I always said this. I

621
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: came I was a pageant girl. I came from a

622
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: space where everybody loved me and I loved everyone, and like,

623
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: you don't argue. I don't argue with people. I'm not

624
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: like cussing people out. So like people will come up

625
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: to me and be like, can you read me? And

626
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, I don't.

627
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: Don't you know I did? It would be good right,

628
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm not.

629
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: That is not at all my nature and it's so

630
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 4: funny that that is like who I've become known as,

631
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: like during my time on the show is like this

632
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: like feisty, like reading person.

633
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 5: Canvas.

634
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and yes, that is a part of who I am,

635
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 4: like I you know, I'm I can be feisty, I

636
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 4: can have spice. But that's literally just one part of

637
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 4: who I am. And this idea that like I am

638
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: the resident like yes, was so weird to me and

639
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: it just but it worked because I became I understood

640
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: my role on the show totally and yes I was

641
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 4: the spoiled princess who reacted and I'm good at reacting

642
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: and I found that Okay, well, you know this is

643
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: not my everyday life, but like for the for the

644
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: purposes of this space, I can enjoy like reading a

645
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: bitch down who tries me, or as I would say,

646
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: like if you come to my porch, my porch light

647
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 4: is on.

648
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: Yuh huh, come in, that's down, Yes you need Yes,

649
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: the light is on for you to come in.

650
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm also identifying with this thing of like it

651
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: might not be natural to who you are, but you

652
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: come in and they tell you this is really good.

653
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: You're doing really well doing this. Yeah, you're kind of like,

654
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: all right, well, I'm getting high marks, so.

655
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep going. Yeah.

656
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,880
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Speaker 2: I thought you said it was proven by sign.

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Speaker 1: I never said that. I just said it was good.

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Speaker 2: But this is I think this is like a thread

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Speaker 2: if you'll let me like about you where like people

686
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Speaker 2: will put you in a box and then you are

687
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Speaker 2: always going to wonderfully break out of it, right pageants, Yes,

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Speaker 2: Housewife and like like you've you've you've really done a

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Speaker 2: remarkable job of like going to the next thing.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: I'm trying, but you are.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, how does it feel? Because I think drive

693
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Speaker 2: Back and Deep Space started this conversation among people where

694
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Speaker 2: we were like where everyone was like, oh, like these

695
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Housewive songs can be great, Like that wasn't a thing before,

696
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Speaker 2: Like how does it feel to have like the first

697
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Speaker 2: Like I think you like broke ground there by like

698
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Speaker 2: having like genuinely great and loved all the other housewive

699
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Speaker 2: songs and you don't you don't have to comment on

700
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Speaker 2: that comparison, but it's like these are like you can

701
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Speaker 2: have this very like intentional visually sort of like curated

702
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: artistry about yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was a part of my evil plan,

704
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 4: Like coming onto Housewives, I wanted to make friends. I

705
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: wanted to like, I love I'm a pageant girl, I

706
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: love a sisterhood, I love fellowshipping with women, like that's

707
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: a part of who I am. But I was also like, okay,

708
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: like I see what this platform can do if you

709
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Speaker 4: use it the right way. I see how this could

710
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 4: be like, you know, a springboard, how it could almost

711
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 4: be like a cheat cod to like break into these

712
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 4: entertainment spaces. That's what I wanted out of it more

713
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: than anything else. Is like okay, and even the song

714
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: was kind of an accident, Like my first song, I

715
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: was getting married on the show, and I always knew

716
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 4: I wanted to perform a song for Chris at our reception.

717
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: I always knew that, and I was like, okay, let me,

718
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 4: Like what would I do, and I wanted to do

719
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 4: Tony Braxton's what is the I forget what the name

720
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Speaker 4: of it is, Let me be I'm I want to

721
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Speaker 4: be your baby. Yeah that song it's from her Libra album.

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Speaker 1: Culture because I feel like say, oh yes, oh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So I love Tony and we were Chris and

724
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: I were at the gym and that song came on

725
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 4: and I was like, I looked at him like this

726
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: is what I'm gissing. So then I go back to

727
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 4: the producers and I'm like, Okay, I want to do

728
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: this song. And they were like, oh no, bitch, we're

729
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: not giving We're not paying forty million dollars for this.

730
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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh ship.

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Speaker 4: And then they were like, you need to do something original,

732
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: an original. I don't have anything yet, so I had

733
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: it forced me to sit down and write Oh I

734
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 4: See You, which was my first like R and B ballad,

735
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: but then turned into Rest in Peace Chuckie Thompson, the

736
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 4: Go Go song that it was like my love letter

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Speaker 4: to d C which is where I became a woman.

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Speaker 4: And then it was like kind of off from there,

739
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: but that's how it started.

740
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was I'm getting flashback. That was my first

741
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: episode of Potomac was your wedding, and was like, oh

742
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: my gosh, this is this is this is the last

743
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: I'll say a Potomac is that. Uh. I used to

744
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: say this is my favorite franchise because I would hang

745
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: out with all of these women because they're funny and

746
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: they're they're so dimensional. And now it's like, I can't

747
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: say that about these women except except for well a couple.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're stay Stacy for president for president.

749
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Speaker 2: But on the QVC stuff, all this podcasting, I have

750
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: to check out our QVC video.

751
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: So crazy because she's my kind of crazy, but she's

752
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: she's quirky, funny, and yeah, yeah, there's a lot of

753
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 4: layers there.

754
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: And also at the end of her first season, when

755
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: it turned out that you know, maybe TJ wasn't actually

756
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: her boyfriend after all, come.

757
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: On, I was thinking, see, there's gonna be a school.

758
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: Of thought that says, get her off the show. I

759
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: was like, this is we have to.

760
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 4: Give me her, yes, and they made their choice. And

761
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: then like also the there was a lot of like

762
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 4: because I saw there was a clip from the reunion

763
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 4: where she's they're talking about her QVC stuff and and

764
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Speaker 4: somebody's like, well, you were acting on there and there's

765
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Speaker 4: just always like a pylon I feel like with her

766
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Speaker 4: and so all like and they're they're upset with her

767
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: then being the rest of the cast, but you all

768
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 4: made her famous because you you like willfully hated on her. Yes, right,

769
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Speaker 4: if you had just ignored her, which she probably would

770
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Speaker 4: have still because she's she's she's she's kind of that girl.

771
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Speaker 4: But like you helped to like build these yes, yeah,

772
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 4: and you stoked these fires.

773
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was.

774
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 2: Telling I was telling Matt, but like the reunion, like

775
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: Annie's bring up the KVC videos and then he throws

776
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: it over to Kiana and he's just like like Kierana,

777
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 2: like like don't you enjoy the QVC videos? And she

778
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: goes I think she was just like trying to come

779
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 2: up with an answer and she was like that would

780
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Speaker 2: be a no, but I do enjoy them.

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Speaker 5: Did they have beef?

782
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: Ye?

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 2: Kan goes after station oh right with the my man

784
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: thing thing that was that was a great moment, my thing,

785
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: I think. But even in that clip, it's like like

786
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: Andy was asking her do you enjoy this videos? And

787
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: then Kara goes, no, but I enjoy them. So it's

788
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,240
Speaker 2: like she even has to like she had to admit

789
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: to be like, oh no, this is the thing that

790
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: people love.

791
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: It's because I knew her from our Fox local station

792
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: in DC. She used to do like the traffic and weather.

793
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: Oh yes at Fox shout out to w t t G.

794
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: I was an intern there, so that's my station. She's

795
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 4: she's always been that.

796
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: Yes, and you can't.

797
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: You just can't deny her.

798
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Some people are just gonna be yeah, they are yes

799
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Speaker 1: and some and that is meant for stardom.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, of who you are and and and stardom.

801
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: We I think it's the time to ask Canna's the question.

802
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: Yes, So Canda still heard Bassett, What was the culture

803
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: that made you say? Culture was for you? This is

804
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: what pointed you in the Candae direction?

805
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 4: So the thing that came to mind. And I don't

806
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Speaker 4: know if I'm like if.

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00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: This is now we have to say, like.

808
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: Is Tiffany New York collared god bless, like thank you

809
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: so much, so much you because they know this is

810
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 4: one of our north stars. I remember just like watching

811
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Speaker 4: her the flavor of love of it all and being

812
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: like wow, like that's me, yes, yes, just she was

813
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 4: just herself unapologetically no holds, just like I'm going to

814
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: show up fully as myself. I don't care what you think,

815
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: I don't care what you say. And it was like

816
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: I'd never seen that, like a dark skinned black woman,

817
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 4: like living fully in her in who she was, even

818
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Speaker 4: if if it was like some of it was cringey

819
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 4: or like weird or there were a lot of opinions,

820
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 4: but like, you don't make history if you're not polarizing,

821
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Speaker 4: and she didn't. She didn't apologize the household name literally yes.

822
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Speaker 2: I mean you're and you're she's a fellow wordsmith like

823
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Speaker 2: you yes.

824
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 5: Oh you know what?

825
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Speaker 4: And I you know, okay wordsmith title, I love my

826
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Speaker 4: I love Ama Rosa that line and I don't. I

827
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Speaker 4: wasn't even that was that House Villains was Yeah, so

828
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 4: I used to like I used to watch it like

829
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 4: late at night, and I was like rolled over this

830
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: way half a sleep when I said, what, I have

831
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 4: to rewind it because what do you mean? I can't

832
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: even repeat the words because I'll go to hell. But like,

833
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: how do you come off with these things?

834
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: And the thing is that's not that that's like that

835
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: obviously is in the pantheon now, but it's not even

836
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: in the top ten right. Things that she has said,

837
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Speaker 1: even just recently with the z Way interview, Oh my god,

838
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Speaker 1: one of Barbara Walters could never now her by the way.

839
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Speaker 4: The would I was like reading her lips to try

840
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Speaker 4: and see what the bleep.

841
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: You got z Way of all people.

842
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 4: To bleep you the way like she's like pulling things,

843
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 4: She's trying to get you to go there. She was

844
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: like almost like uncomfortable.

845
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: I was.

846
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: I was like, let me just see if I can

847
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: like see through the bleeping can I like? And I

848
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 4: couldn't get But we need to call the what's the girl?

849
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 4: She's she's she's definitely, yes, we need her. She can

850
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 4: read the lips. What Kelly Rowland said down to the

851
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 4: what was that they were in France when Kelly was

852
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 4: like the film. One of the assistants was like along

853
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 4: and she was like, don't put your hands on me.

854
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: She got it perfect.

855
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: I love her.

856
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: Another name invoked legendary you.

857
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 4: She One time I was singing the national anthem at

858
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: a Clippers game and she was there and ied on.

859
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you get to interact with her?

860
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 4: No, because she was like over there and there and

861
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: I can't talk to again.

862
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: But you know there's no It's like it's like me

863
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: and you. It's like I can't you can't do it.

864
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: Wait and this is you and Tiffany both iconic moments

865
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: with knives, waving a knife around what knife which she

866
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 2: flavor of love season want to Pumpkin?

867
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Speaker 1: You know auto.

868
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: Hello Bowen here from the future relative to when this

869
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: episode was recorded. Here with the shameful correction, it was

870
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: not Pumpkin who Tiffany Pollard waved her knife hat. It

871
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: was Hottie in the kitchen, giving birth to the phrase

872
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 2: New York is in the motherfucking house. There is also

873
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: another famous knife moment when New York was upset that

874
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: Flave was flirting with Goldie on their joint and day

875
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: and she was brandishing a big, big sharp knife. Hope

876
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: that clear things up as you were. But she had

877
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: a stack knie and need a better knife. So it's

878
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: just different. But your mother, But I will say this

879
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: is a significant moment in media. I'm gonna say, like

880
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: in just media portrayal, representation, something where it's like it

881
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: was we got I got to school the next day

882
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: after after this the spit moment, Oh my god changed

883
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: because I wasn't watching season one. I didn't have cable,

884
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: but I was like. We got to school the next

885
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: day and everyone was like, did you watch Flavor Love

886
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: last night? I was like, no, Like what it's like,

887
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: it's a show and VH one Pumpkin Spin on New

888
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: York and then I like, I got the entire mythology

889
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: and one sitting and I was like, something really important

890
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: has happened. Turn it on. And so I would go

891
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: with my dad to his business trips to Wyoming to

892
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 2: just stay in the hotel road so I could watch,

893
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: so I could binge Flavor Book because would do these marathons,

894
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: and it was just it was my jaw was on

895
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: the floor. It's like, this is a star. We've never

896
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: seen anyone like her.

897
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: She is She's a wizard, is.

898
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: A very Also, you know we both are friend of ours.

899
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Just gave us as a gift a mug and on it.

900
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: It's the whole speech of pretty much. I would let literally,

901
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't say it. I literally now

902
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: we both own mugs. I got mine. Okay, So now

903
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: there's no excuse to not be off book. Everyone out there,

904
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: you can put it on a mug.

905
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's like she's she's a wordsmith like you.

906
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 4: She she has a very uh interesting mother.

907
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: Yes, I was thinking that, yeah.

908
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 4: Patterson, she I saw a lot of my mom and

909
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: that was the other thing, was like wow, and her

910
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: mom is like mine, Like, how want mom? And she's great.

911
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: She's a grandmother, honey, she is. She calls me and

912
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 4: she's like I'd be like hey, and she's like, where's Jet.

913
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm okay, you know, I ate today. Thanks,

914
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: My interest are going back. Thanks, But here's here's Jet.

915
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: Okay.

916
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: And when she she comes to visit at least once

917
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: a month, and I don't see Jet. They sleep in

918
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: the same bed. She's feeding him. He's like gab but

919
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: he can't say grandma, so he says gap ua. And

920
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 4: now that she's gone, every morning I would get him

921
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: up and he would like go to the top of

922
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: the stairs and look down, and she'd be sitting in

923
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 4: the living room like drinking her coffee and watching sherry

924
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 4: and he'd be like yabba. So now every morning he

925
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: goes and looks down and yeah, buck, get butt and

926
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: like she's not there. She is at her house. We'll

927
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: see her later. But they are just like they don't

928
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 4: tell you like that. Part of being a parent is

929
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 4: like the it's such a special, weird feeling to like

930
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: see your child old with the person that birthed you.

931
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my god, this is special.

932
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: What happens there when you see that, it's.

933
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 4: Like it's I can't describe it yet, it's just it

934
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 4: just feels like it's almost like you're watching yourself with

935
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: your mother. It's like you get a glance into what

936
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: they might have been like with you, but nicer.

937
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: It's like in a moment where you see like, oh,

938
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: it's almost like an appreciation, Like now that I can

939
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: visualize literally you caring for this person, Like I have

940
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: an extra gratitude because you cared for me.

941
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's like if for no other reason, do

942
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 4: it for that, like just to give give grandparents that moment.

943
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: See, yeah, I don't think either of us are going

944
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: to have children.

945
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: But but but hearing you describe it is like perfect,

946
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: its beautiful.

947
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, have one, of course you can share them.

948
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: At this point, are there songs about.

949
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 4: Now, there's a song. There's a song on my impending

950
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 4: album Impending.

951
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, what can we have any details about this? Well?

952
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 4: There is a new remix, so if only is out

953
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 4: now stream download all those things. There is a remix

954
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 4: that so I teased it today on my socials with

955
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: a very special someone that we all know and love,

956
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: that will be coming out. I think in like two

957
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 4: weeks you should know the date, but I don't.

958
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: So it's a surprise.

959
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: Yes, the remixes.

960
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 4: The remix is a surprise. The special guest is a surprise.

961
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: The remix is not. The remix is out, the teaser

962
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 4: is out today, got it? But the special guest is

963
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 4: very special.

964
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh I want to find out off the wait. But

965
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: speaking of music, because I love that you said tifty

966
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: New York Collard. But I as a musician, one of

967
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: the things I love about deep Space is I feel

968
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: like I can draw a line to it too, really

969
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: really important music from when I was younger. And then

970
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: looking you up a little bit, I know that you

971
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: like are a late nineties r and before. Oh yes,

972
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: So I just have to say that you know that

973
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: I was thinking about never say never.

974
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 5: Oh my god, of course, honey, and.

975
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: I hear just like obviously lots of Tony, but like

976
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: the tone of your voice like speaks to yes, Tony

977
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: but obviously Brandy, Ye, like I can just hear it

978
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: in the way that you sing. I can hear it

979
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: in the way that you approach words like I wanted

980
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: to know about like your musical inspirations and wondering if

981
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm onto something there.

982
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 4: You know what is so you know, like when you

983
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 4: do something and it's intentional and you don't know if

984
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 4: people are going to get it, thank you forgetting it,

985
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 4: and I it just it validates. It's like the little

986
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: girl in me that was like in her room dancing

987
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: till she was sweating with her hair brush. I want

988
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 4: to dance with somebody and knowing like somehow, some ways,

989
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 4: so day like she would be here and like we'd

990
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: be talking about her music. I used to so do

991
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 4: you guys remember like the big CD, the like six

992
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 4: disc CD changer, the two big speakers and it had

993
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: the two cassette tape because we still had by one

994
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 4: of those and I had it was always a Winnie

995
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 4: Houston CD Butterfly or Rainbow Wow.

996
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: I never.

997
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: Monica. What's her album with the Blue the Baby Blue

998
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: Angel Angel Mine.

999
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm back with another correction. It is not Angel of Mine.

1000
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: That is the name of another single off of that album,

1001
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 2: but it is called The Boy's Mine, of course, and

1002
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: I knew that that was wrong when I said it, as.

1003
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: You were that one.

1004
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the album title.

1005
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's yeah. Yeah, misunderstood pink when pink

1006
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 4: was still kind of.

1007
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 5: Black, black pink.

1008
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: We love that.

1009
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 4: We love pink today, we love we love, we love

1010
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 4: black pink today. Yes, yes, we love yes all yes,

1011
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: all invited. That was in there, oh dirty.

1012
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: Yes, the Stripped album was the album and no she she.

1013
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: I don't not to say she never got back there,

1014
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: because like she's got so much incredible work since then.

1015
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: But the reason I say that is because we were

1016
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: in the midst of a moment with Stripped and we

1017
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't even realize.

1018
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: No, right, it was a phenomenon that we didn't know.

1019
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: And I would like, I studied back when music videos

1020
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 4: were still like a thing, yeah, and making the video

1021
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: and you we'd spend like three four days like and

1022
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to like give the

1023
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: world this art that we don't have. Nobody is spending

1024
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: that kind of money anymore. Nobody is like investing in

1025
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: that part of the artistic process.

1026
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 5: Anymore.

1027
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: It's such a shame.

1028
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 5: Yes, I try. I did do it.

1029
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 4: I did it. My favorite visual of mine is is

1030
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: it enough? And I spend a lot of money on that.

1031
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. The people don't realize these are like for a

1032
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: music video, it's like fifty sixty thousand dollars if you're

1033
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: rocking and rolling.

1034
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I think I spent like forty thirty five forty

1035
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 4: and it was over two days. Yeah, but I don't

1036
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: I'm not mad. I don't regret it, like.

1037
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: No, because you'll always have it. Because I also feel like,

1038
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: especially you, as someone who's like wanted to do this

1039
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: for so long and like has inspirations and a vision

1040
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: of what this looks like, you can't just do your

1041
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: album without music video, like.

1042
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 4: And my team was like, girl, we don't need that.

1043
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 5: I said, we're doing it.

1044
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing it. I want this.

1045
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 2: It's for you.

1046
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, it is for me. I don't care if

1047
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 4: any nobody else watches it. But even on my new project,

1048
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 4: I know right now what song will have a visual.

1049
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 4: I don't care what you and there will be an

1050
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: eight count YEP. Okay, I'm gonna oil my knees up

1051
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 4: real good. Yeah, it's going to happen and if nobody

1052
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 4: watches it, I will have lived my life, yeah, and done.

1053
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: The things I needed to investing in yourself. What is

1054
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: this about, uh, you being a rock star on your

1055
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 2: past life because you're bringing a rock sound to this album.

1056
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: I hear talk about it.

1057
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: Was there a rock album in the rotation of the

1058
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: sixth CD player or like what, like what are you

1059
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: drawing from personally?

1060
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 4: If so, it is still a goal of mine to

1061
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 4: do like a rock R and B version of Under

1062
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 4: the Bridge.

1063
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: I love the Chili Peppers, Yeah, come on.

1064
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 5: I love it.

1065
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 4: I love him Calvin, I love Yes.

1066
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah he was hot too, Yeah.

1067
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 5: He was cute. Yeah he's kind of weird now now

1068
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 5: it's tough.

1069
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: He's just cute then.

1070
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I love what. I love when

1071
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: our the straight guys who do our show like like

1072
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: sort of like interact with the one random straight thing

1073
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: we say and Anthony Keta scot them to laugh. Today

1074
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: it was David Fincher.

1075
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: Anthony, so we're back, Yes, yes, welcome.

1076
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: So you want to do Under the Bridge? Es?

1077
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 5: Wow, I I love that song.

1078
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 4: I love that song. I love like led Zeppelin, I

1079
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 4: love what is his name?

1080
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 2: What is with the teeth, mister the teeth, with the teeth,

1081
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: with the.

1082
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 4: Teeth, Freddie Mercury, Yes, yes, you know you know him

1083
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 4: with the teeth.

1084
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: That's a great flattering way to refer to him.

1085
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 4: Because that that was just.

1086
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: Like the teeth. It's the dark hair, it's the white tank,

1087
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: it's the.

1088
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: Situation.

1089
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 4: Even Prince Brand is probably like rock star my rock idol. Yes,

1090
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 4: I like I want to be Prince I just he

1091
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: he did it right and like it was and it

1092
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 4: made no sense like no business man did, like none.

1093
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: It is crazy. It's like one of those ones that

1094
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: you're like, can we go back? How did this happen?

1095
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 4: This happened? Because it just it happened so fast and

1096
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 4: if he didn't even get like he's just due, Like

1097
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 4: it was just like okay, he's gone, what's next, Like

1098
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 4: we we need to go back and like honor him properly.

1099
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was he just dropped that last album

1100
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 2: with like the three sort of ye lensed glasses and

1101
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: then that was yeah, you're right, it didn't feel Yeah.

1102
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: There was it. We I don't because he's such a

1103
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: monumental influence forget about artist in his own right, influence

1104
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 1: on the most important artist of our generation, like namely Beyonce, who,

1105
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: by the way, shuts everything down yep to I'll never forget.

1106
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 1: It was the Formation World.

1107
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: Tour at Queen's and she's.

1108
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 1: Stopping everything to make sure that at her concert, Prince

1109
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: was going to get a full on you know, like moment.

1110
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 4: Tina Tina is like the female version. They are like

1111
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 4: each other, opposites in gender, Like I if I could

1112
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 4: be Tina, Tina's knees are better than mine, Like if

1113
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: you even though she was like it was.

1114
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: There would be.

1115
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 4: There are like videos of her where I'm like, is

1116
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 4: this sped up she created? And it wasn't she It

1117
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: was insane to me and I'm not even this is

1118
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 4: how I know, like I'm going to be here for

1119
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: a while because I haven't even like touched the surface

1120
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 4: of of that of what I want to do, of course,

1121
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: Like I feel like Deep Space was amazing and it's

1122
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: my baby. It was my introduction, and I was like timid,

1123
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 4: and I was like kind of like doing what I

1124
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 4: thought I should do and listening to my trusted team,

1125
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 4: listening to them this next album, I was like, no,

1126
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm not doing that. I was a little bit more vocal,

1127
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 4: but I even I still even still like even now

1128
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 4: I'm this project is like mostly done. There's I'm recording

1129
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 4: a few more songs, but I I'm already thinking about

1130
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 4: like what I want to do next.

1131
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Good.

1132
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 4: And it's like I'm like slowly coming out of my

1133
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 4: shell and like eventually I'm going to do like whatever

1134
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 4: the fuck and it's going to be what it's going

1135
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 4: to be, and I like I can't wait to get there.

1136
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. Cannas like you you you

1137
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: will keep coming out of your shell because this is

1138
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: what you do. This is this is so exciting, and

1139
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: like I'm even hearing you talk about like the Rob

1140
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 2: conversation moment not to go back to this, but just quickly,

1141
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you have such an understanding of narrative

1142
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: and like you knew that wasn't like you like you

1143
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: knew in the moment. You didn't know in the moment

1144
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: that it would be such a moment, right right.

1145
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1146
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: And then what Matt's kind of bringing about bringing up

1147
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 2: with like the Patgeant stuff where it's like, oh, you

1148
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: weren't sort of conflict oriented back and you're in that

1149
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: sort of yeah, sort of origin. It's like I think

1150
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 2: you I'm like, oh, you could be like a producer,

1151
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: Like you could be like behind the scenes. You're such

1152
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 2: a star, you should be in front of the camera.

1153
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 2: It's like that's the thing. But you know, I think

1154
00:57:58,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: I think the world's your oyster.

1155
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1156
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: I really do.

1157
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 5: I receive it.

1158
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: I mean, also, the thing about you is are you

1159
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: a voice notoer? Oh? Yes, because you write when you speak. Yes,

1160
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: that's that's something. I recognize it because I'm like, I

1161
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: feel like you channel ah do you have to have it?

1162
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: Just your hand has to be on that voice note

1163
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes I don't know how you feel,

1164
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: but it's hard for me to sit down and like

1165
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: actually write and log. It's easier to handwrite. Yeah, you,

1166
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: like I said, one of our great verbal processors. You

1167
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: literally write when you speak. It's good. You know, it

1168
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: is quality enough when it comes from your brain through

1169
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: your mouth. That's why it's caught on so many times

1170
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: on Housewives. But that if you channel it like that,

1171
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: there's so much that can go into the work.

1172
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: I receive that.

1173
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1174
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, my Jet because I do talk to text all

1175
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 4: the time, and now Jet will take my phone. He

1176
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 4: calls a stone, stone, stone, it takes my stone and

1177
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 4: he'll like hold it up to his mouth and go bit.

1178
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you doing? And I'm like, oh

1179
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 4: my god, he's mimicking me, because I do that all day.

1180
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: It's it's insane. But yes, I'm I'm working on a

1181
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 4: piece of literature, and so much of it just a.

1182
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 5: Little literature, a little tomb yet.

1183
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: And some I do type because I do, like depending

1184
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 4: on the day that I'm writing. Some days I do

1185
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: just want to, like I want, I want the energy

1186
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 4: to come out of my hand. But sometimes I'm like, no,

1187
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm just about to hit this button and like speak

1188
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 4: the words of this book and and it just it

1189
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: goes in it.

1190
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 5: And yeah, I do.

1191
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 4: It's because I read a lot as a kid, always

1192
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: reading a book, a goose Bumps book, Baby Club.

1193
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: This is the box Car Children, box Car Children, Oh

1194
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: my god. Oh yeah, that's that's this is all. It's

1195
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: all foundational. I've always wanted to tell you what did

1196
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: you do at the White House? What was your job

1197
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: at the White House.

1198
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 4: I wasn't intern in the Offices of Public Engagement and

1199
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 4: Intergovernmental Affairs, so I was a liaison, So my office

1200
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 4: liaise between the White House and mostly the black community.

1201
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 4: So like we would do all the tours, we'd bring

1202
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 4: people in.

1203
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, first term, second.

1204
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 4: First term in the first term, and then when I

1205
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 4: did the campaign that was the second yes.

1206
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 2: Yes, twenty twelve. What a time.

1207
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: We were lucky enough to get a tour right before

1208
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: the old switchover. But we I was on tour in

1209
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: DC this last note obviously not this last but the

1210
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: year prior, and it was I had to be it

1211
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: had to be you know, December fourth, fifth, sixth, so

1212
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: they moved holiday. So yeah, so it was the holidays

1213
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: at the White House, but it was obviously a month

1214
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: after the election and a month before the changeover. So

1215
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, if you want to come in

1216
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: for a tour. They literally go, I.

1217
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 4: Think I did that too.

1218
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1219
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, we was like and I took jet that was like, that.

1220
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: Was like, let me get in here before.

1221
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had been like three other times when he

1222
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 4: was in utero, and I was like, let's go so

1223
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 4: you can like see it and get to get a

1224
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 4: picture in here, so you know, if it all burns

1225
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 4: to the ground, but we can say we were in

1226
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 4: here and it basically and its ashes.

1227
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they said as much, though I remember feeling so

1228
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: frustrated but obviously understanding because you know, the lovely women

1229
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: that were giving us the tour there were like, because

1230
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, who knows if we're ever coming back.

1231
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 4: It is grim in there.

1232
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1233
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: And then recently I was invited for a tour and

1234
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: I was like, now I've seen it, thanks no, thank you. Yeah,

1235
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: and you know somebody was like, well, you know it's

1236
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: it's still the way Hell's like, it's not my white house,

1237
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 4: and I don't and then it's just the energy. I'm

1238
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 4: gonna go in there and like I've heard about the

1239
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: out of spite the changes that have been made, it's

1240
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 4: just gonna piss me off. I'm gonna end up like

1241
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 4: underground in a bunker or something because I'll like kick

1242
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: a door.

1243
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to go.

1244
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 5: No, I've seen it.

1245
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Oh, I have to

1246
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 2: really point out quickly point out. We forgot to say undomesticated,

1247
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: domesticated Michael. I've read his book when it came out,

1248
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 2: which one can't take Jesus, oh, that is my book.

1249
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 5: That's how I slid in his DMS. Like wait, this.

1250
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 4: Book is like my life actually excellent, just the way

1251
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 4: he writes the way that I think, yes, and like

1252
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 4: all of his books are this way. But like you

1253
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 4: just you feel like you're sitting like with a friend,

1254
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 4: like just talking about your life when you're reading his book. Yeah,

1255
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 4: And I remember my best friend was like, I'm reading

1256
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 4: this book and I feel like you really like it,

1257
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 4: and it's like like it's just a line with your life,

1258
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 4: and it's okay, sure, I'll read it. And I was

1259
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 4: halfway through and I just I've never never done it before.

1260
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 4: I was like, I need to tell him how I'm

1261
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 4: amazing his writing is. And I slid in his d

1262
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 4: MS and I was like, you know, I just like

1263
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 4: everything you're saying about, like your mom, your relationship with

1264
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: your mom, and like your life and being from the South,

1265
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 4: we both went to Howard Yeah, so I was just

1266
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: I was like, I have to tell you this, and

1267
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 4: we became friends from that genuine like I just he's

1268
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: he's a brilliant He's like too brilliant for the world.

1269
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: He's wonderful. He writes all about how like he calls

1270
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: it Betheism, like his love for Beyonce, but how like

1271
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: is because he came up Catholic, I believe, and like

1272
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 2: he was he was Catholic, and like he like maybe

1273
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 2: he was going to be a priest I think, I

1274
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: don't know, or a man of the cloth in some way.

1275
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: And then like he just writes about how like loving

1276
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 2: someone like Beyonce is a better sort of lens to

1277
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: which through which you like evaluate your own self concept

1278
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: or worth or whatever, like that is a bit more

1279
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: meaningful in the current day, Like look at a pop

1280
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: star like Beyonce or any or just any artist that

1281
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: you love and just be like, oh, this is this

1282
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 2: is telling me something about self. It's very it's so

1283
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: it's it's very beautiful. And like I've always I've been

1284
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: such a I love that you guys have this wonderful

1285
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 2: podcast together.

1286
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 4: Yes, just it works. And he's I mean, he he

1287
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 4: lives up to his name. His name on Instagram is

1288
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 4: young Syne. So he's going to give it to you

1289
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 4: very straight and tell you the truth. And I'm not

1290
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,480
Speaker 4: far behind. But I love how we like we find

1291
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 4: different ways to like approach the same topic. He's going

1292
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 4: to be like, yeah, I bitch just fucked up, and

1293
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: I'd be like, yeah, she is fucked up. But you

1294
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 4: know maybe in her childhood her daddy was, you know,

1295
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 4: I will find a way because I have an honorary

1296
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 4: m D. Yeah, my parents are physicians, so you know

1297
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 4: I will I will diagnose. I was just talking the

1298
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: other day about something somebody's like blood pressure or something,

1299
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 4: and my mom was like, are you a doctor?

1300
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 5: I say, yes, girl, isn't that how it works?

1301
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 4: Okay? Like, yes, yes, you've been around it enough. You

1302
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 4: have an m D honorarily, you know what the.

1303
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: You do pick up some things. Part of why I

1304
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: think I'm doing this is because I heard my mom

1305
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: talk to women in the chair when she was cutting

1306
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: her hair. So you're a doctor.

1307
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 5: It is the same. Yes, and your oprah, Yes, you

1308
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 5: see that's how it works.

1309
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, okay, and not then I think it's time

1310
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: we move on.

1311
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: Before we before we move on to I don't think so, honey,

1312
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: I do have to ask you one question, which is

1313
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: what is your favorite Brandy track?

1314
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 4: There's not one the entire entirely.

1315
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: I just I die to talk about her all the

1316
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: time on this podcast, and we rarely have people that

1317
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: are like that.

1318
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 4: They are people don't respect brand. They never get the

1319
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 4: respect she deserves.

1320
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: They took her for granted.

1321
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: Yes, but no, it's not even that. It's it's just

1322
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 4: that you don't have the range, like when you don't

1323
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: get Brandy's because you can't sit with us, like you

1324
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: don't get it. You have to put your ear on

1325
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: the speaker to really appreciate Brandy the vocal Bible.

1326
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: So you used to really I read this about you.

1327
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: You used to really put your ear to the speaker

1328
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: so you could hear all the stacks, every.

1329
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 4: On, every stack. Yes, and like I want like six harmony,

1330
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 4: I want six part harmony. Yes, because Brandy did it

1331
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 4: first on the.

1332
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: Door Show Arianna could Spring.

1333
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 2: Yes.

1334
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 4: Kalani too has talked about how she is like that

1335
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 4: is her mother and they be sick of me in

1336
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 4: the studio like okay, we no, no, no, it's one

1337
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 4: more in there.

1338
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: Let's let's find let's find it.

1339
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 5: Let's find it because it's in there.

1340
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 4: Yes, like you, I the fullness of sound is because

1341
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 4: of Brandon. Yes, a cappella from Human. I love the

1342
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 4: entire Human album. Yeah, but a cappella is probably one

1343
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 4: of my favorites.

1344
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: I think it's a I'd never say it never comes

1345
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: at in ninety eight, So that's like right around when

1346
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: Butterfly happens. So this is when I was like telling myself, Okay,

1347
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: this is the music. I like. Yeah. But then also,

1348
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: you know, album gets Lost is aphrodisiac. Unfortunately Kanye is

1349
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: on talk about our love, but I do love.

1350
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 4: That's a good one.

1351
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: I also.

1352
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 4: The latest one that she did with Camper that everybody

1353
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,479
Speaker 4: was like, this is weird. What was that album called?

1354
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: You're talking about B seven B seven? Yeah.

1355
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 4: I appreciate B seven Yeah, like.

1356
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: I appreciate anything she does.

1357
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, Like people were like this is it

1358
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 4: was different? And I mean Brandy is known for a

1359
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 4: specific sound. I get I respect that she wanted to

1360
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 4: try something else.

1361
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 5: Yes, of course, and I lived for it.

1362
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Last year when we were putting our Culture Awards

1363
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: together and so we heard that Brandy and Monica were

1364
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: going on tour together, and I remember I said, wait,

1365
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no better moment in life I

1366
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: can ever think of than them for the first time,

1367
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: or at least for a long time, performing The Boy's

1368
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: Mine together. I wrote them a letter. Do you remember this?

1369
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: Because they were pitched to us.

1370
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: So basically, like we saw that there was a possible chance,

1371
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: and I was like, stop everything. I've never done this before.

1372
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm writing a letter to the talent, and I gotta like,

1373
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: I gotta find it and keep it because by the

1374
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: end I was emotional because I realized like I was

1375
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: speaking about something that had such a bigger impact than

1376
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: I could ever know, just like the lore of their

1377
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: relationship that all went right into that to the vocals

1378
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: in that, like just the the wildness of the riffs

1379
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: and the choices, but how they spoke to each other,

1380
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: the tension in that the very adult tone and Monica's

1381
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 1: voice contrasting with the girlish airiness of Brandy's voice gave

1382
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: personified POV.

1383
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 2: One of the great tracks ever ever is that song?

1384
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 5: Whenever dated never never never.

1385
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: They can't or they should try, because we'd love to

1386
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: hear that.

1387
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I want to see them at essence like

1388
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 4: they're I'm happy that they're continuing like that. They're not

1389
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 4: sick of each other yet.

1390
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you do you do worry?

1391
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, ever so slightly.

1392
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 2: When you're tied to people in that way through the years,

1393
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: it's like you never know what the what the tone, Yeah, exactly.

1394
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 4: Let's let's keep it going.

1395
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 5: I love it.

1396
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 1: And this ever since they're versus, that was like what

1397
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: got me into the verses stuff it all? Okay, is

1398
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 1: this like child's play? What's happening? And then they said

1399
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: they got Brandy and Monica to come do it, and

1400
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: I was like.

1401
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 2: Oh, this is real.

1402
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: And then they had that one moment of tension and

1403
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, pack it.

1404
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 5: Up, please, don't want it.

1405
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: Please, We're all living at home.

1406
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 4: They're amazing together and I'm just And it's also just

1407
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,879
Speaker 4: like it's very grown women of them to be like, Okay,

1408
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 4: let's put this all to the side. The fans want this,

1409
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 4: let's give and we need.

1410
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 5: Healing in the world right now.

1411
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 4: Okay, So if the girls are not fighting, everything is good.

1412
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 4: The other girls are fighting, let.

1413
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: Them fight, y'all. Yeah, okay, it's I don't think so, honey.

1414
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: Time This is where we take one minute sort of

1415
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, workout feelings on something in culture.

1416
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: I can I might start this time. You want to

1417
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 2: start this time because because Cannice has inspired something in me.

1418
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 1: Then LFG okay, I'm gonna put one minute on the

1419
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: clock for the one and he's gonna tear it up.

1420
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey, and

1421
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: his time starts now.

1422
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,879
Speaker 2: I don't think somebney. Oh, you're still on your dad's

1423
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: plan for X y Z. Yes, I still have a

1424
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 2: Chase College debit account because my father started it in

1425
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: my name. Right over here we have the iconic candas

1426
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Stealer Basset saying yes, I'm still on my father's phone

1427
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 2: plan and I will never get off of that.

1428
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,480
Speaker 1: Why for? Why would be the reason?

1429
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: Because like, it's not like a thing where with like marriages,

1430
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: let's say, where it's like, yeah, of course you like

1431
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: kind of combine you you combine your things. There's nothing

1432
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 2: wrong with someone in the family, no matter what the

1433
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 2: age is, to be within the plan of some arrangement.

1434
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: I don't think there should be stigma around that. I

1435
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 2: don't understand. I'm not there's no existential functional difference in

1436
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: me having this Chase College under my dad's name. It's

1437
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 2: under my name, but it still has his name in parentheses.

1438
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: He doesn't have any visibility into it. But I'm like, yeah,

1439
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 2: why not? It connects me in my college days. I

1440
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 2: think of myself two thousand and eight, moving to New

1441
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 2: York with a dream and ten dollars in my account.

1442
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I remember the moment that the

1443
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: Chase representative walked up and said, what about a credit card?

1444
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: And my parents turned to me and said, I guess

1445
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: we're getting your credit card. Wow, it's a moment.

1446
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm also my So my first checking account that

1447
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: my dad opened was like under his name. Yeah, I

1448
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 4: also still have that account.

1449
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1450
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like if he needs to like transfer money

1451
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 4: or take money out, because like I think you know

1452
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 4: how you can do the you pay for the phone

1453
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 4: and installment. Yes, yes, so he makes me pay for

1454
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: install you're still it's still yours and it comes out

1455
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 4: of that account exactly, and I just pay him like

1456
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 4: the forty seven dollars or whatever it is a month,

1457
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 4: and he set up the automatic trance, so it's like, yes,

1458
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 4: but if he wants to slat a couple of dollars

1459
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 4: in there, he can do that too.

1460
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 2: It's fine, of course.

1461
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: Yes, their parents having access to that kind of account

1462
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: is so funny because when I knew I had to

1463
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 1: end it was my mom goes to me, I just

1464
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: wanted to ask about because I can see it and

1465
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, don't look at that. She's like,

1466
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: that's only fans. What I was like, I'm supporting the arts. Yes,

1467
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: I was like, don't look at this anymore.

1468
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 4: You are technically it's artful.

1469
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: Art is a loose term.

1470
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 4: And this my got today.

1471
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: Okay, fabulous and more, thank you. I spoke to a generation. Well,

1472
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand this around it. Okay, I have one.

1473
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,520
Speaker 1: This is you know, it's not directed to anyone in particular,

1474
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: but we're talking fashion.

1475
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 2: This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many times starts.

1476
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: Now, I don't think so, honey, men in sheer now?

1477
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm is this a little bit me? Just scared to

1478
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: do because I feel like, you know, when hud Sit

1479
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: and Connor hit the carpet and they're in a look,

1480
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: you have to think, is this now a fashion trend?

1481
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: And they were in sheer last night at the Vanity

1482
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: Fair Oscar party, and I said, please not this, because

1483
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,719
Speaker 1: then we might have to explore sheer. That's not happening

1484
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 1: for me like the way it is on Hudson and Connor.

1485
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,959
Speaker 1: And I think this may go the way of shirtless

1486
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 1: under a blazer. If you think can think back to

1487
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: six years ago. A lot of people doing shirtless under

1488
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,080
Speaker 1: a blazer on red carpets dates, It dates the look.

1489
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: It dates the look, and I just think classic. Maybe

1490
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: what if we returned to classic. I think about this

1491
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: a lot. I just kind of want to see. You

1492
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: showed up the other day at the Glad Awards in

1493
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: like like a black tux. Yeah, I said classic, remember

1494
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: those return to Hollywood Glamour five seconds. I'm just saying,

1495
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: let's call out these things before they become mainstay trends.

1496
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: Sheer I don't think so hard.

1497
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: And that's one minute in sixteen seconds.

1498
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I really went over Yeah.

1499
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 2: Problem.

1500
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 4: You had a lot to say.

1501
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: I just because you know, when you see it's to

1502
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: catch on and you're like, okay, now you have to

1503
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: wrap your mind around it.

1504
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 4: Yes, Yeah, I love shere though, I do shere often.

1505
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: That's you though. Yeah.

1506
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 4: I do like a bra and I do like a

1507
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 4: sheer top.

1508
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: But for men, it's like it's like, if you're gonna

1509
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: do shear, yeah, it kind of means you're showing nipple.

1510
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 5: A little bit.

1511
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but they're just they're just little nips.

1512
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 4: They are totally little nips, like huge areolas.

1513
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: You know, but not every nipples made the same. They

1514
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: are not like some nipples are like you see a

1515
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: nipple out on the wild and you're like, oh wow,

1516
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,639
Speaker 1: and then well mine have the little points mine.

1517
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I got and get the massage for

1518
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 2: an hour perbue.

1519
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 5: Got to yes, get the milk out.

1520
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 4: It's important alone.

1521
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: The shaking of the heads that are happening. Okay, so

1522
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: here we go. We're we're ready for the moment that

1523
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: is canics? Do you have thoughts?

1524
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 4: I have a thought?

1525
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, and you can't read off the phone if you

1526
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 2: would like, wait.

1527
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 4: Do I want to use this one? Because I feel

1528
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 4: like I already.

1529
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 1: See now this is how the notes.

1530
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 4: Be popping on my phone, like not even kidding. Wait,

1531
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 4: I might I want to find one.

1532
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: Take your time.

1533
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 5: Wait, I wasn't prepared.

1534
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 1: Prepare you need to be prepared. Yes.

1535
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 4: My mother called me Scar once why I don't know.

1536
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 4: We were talking about the Lion King and it was

1537
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 4: like around the time of my wedding and she was like,

1538
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: you have an attitude, you're acting.

1539
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 5: And she's like, you're Scar Star.

1540
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 4: She was like, oh whatever, Scar, She said, like that.

1541
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 4: My best friend never lets me forget.

1542
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 5: That, okay, Scar, Yes, and I will never forget.

1543
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: By the way, you would never do have CI villains

1544
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 2: because you're that's that's predicated on you being a villain.

1545
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 5: Exactly, and I'm not a villain.

1546
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 4: I'm just misunderstood.

1547
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1548
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 2: Also I think I understand.

1549
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the last phraser if he wanted to do it.

1550
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not a villain Villa.

1551
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: Frasier like blow Deck.

1552
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, uh huh, he's not a villain.

1553
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 2: No, he's not a villain.

1554
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 4: Well maybe that's the lore in it, Like he's.

1555
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: Just like blonde and icy and British, and so they

1556
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: try to like there. Jack t told me that they're

1557
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: always trying to push him in a villain direction, and

1558
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 1: he's like, but that's not really what I can what

1559
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: I can give you naturally, and so yeah, I feel

1560
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: like you know something about that.

1561
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 4: Yes, that's how I feel often. Okay, I there are

1562
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 4: so many things I could say, and they're all just

1563
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: escaping me. That's okay, Oh, I've got it.

1564
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, lock in for candas, this is okay, stealer baskets,

1565
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, her time starts now. But

1566
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 2: again one last time. As we mentioned at the top

1567
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: of this episode, we recorded this the day after the Oscars,

1568
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 2: when Matt and I were blistfully unaware of this whole

1569
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 2: Bachelorette fiasco. Obviously a lot of things have happened since,

1570
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: including the TMZ video and the cancelation of the season.

1571
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 2: At the time of this recording, as in this little

1572
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 2: memo insertion, it seems like it's still developing anyway. That's

1573
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: just helpful to know. Okay, enjoy Candice is wonderful. I

1574
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: don't think so, honey.

1575
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: I don't think so, honey. But y'all in this new Bachelorette,

1576
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 4: miss what's her name, Frankie Taylor, Taylor, Frankie Paul, she's ghetto.

1577
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 4: And I'm just gonna go on the record and say

1578
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 4: as much. I've said it already, But the Bachelorette used

1579
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 4: to be this like girl next door. You know, she's

1580
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 4: pulled up, she's straight and narrow, she's got all of

1581
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 4: her marbles, she keeps her legs closed, she sits pretty,

1582
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 4: she's she gives you, she gives you sashang of the

1583
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 4: shoulder thirty seconds. And now we are fully like embracing

1584
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 4: the direction of hood rat, like she she's been to jail.

1585
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 4: She is she's been she's like beating up her husband allegedly.

1586
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 4: She's she's a mess. And I'm just like, how did

1587
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 4: we get here? The bachelorette is going downhill fast. I'm

1588
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 4: gonna be watching, but I will be watching with just

1589
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 4: just like a squint in my eye because how are

1590
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 4: we here? What do we do? The man came out

1591
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 4: the other day saying that he slept with her the

1592
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 4: day before she left to go do the show.

1593
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 2: We are in the ghetto and that's one minute and

1594
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 2: ten seconds. So I didn't realisten until last night watching

1595
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 2: the Oscars when they were playing the commercials for ABC,

1596
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: I was like, that's Mormon girl. Yes, I didn't realize

1597
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 2: we were dipping into the other, into the other.

1598
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 4: Property, dipping into the ghetto.

1599
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: I have not wait, who is this person? Who is she?

1600
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: Frankie Taylor Paul?

1601
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 4: Taylor is Taylor, Frankie Paul?

1602
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: Is her name Taylor Frankie?

1603
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,759
Speaker 4: And she's just she's a mess.

1604
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 5: Well, she's just a mess.

1605
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 2: You TA doesn't have a good history with people with

1606
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 2: the last name Frankie.

1607
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 4: Oh, is that who she is?

1608
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: So there was also Thatchlore.

1609
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 4: That's it. Wow, how do we get here?

1610
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 2: Well?

1611
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: You know what I think, honestly what happened is I

1612
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,520
Speaker 1: think Dancing with the Stars had huge success with Whitney.

1613
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 4: Levit yes, whom I love and yeah I love her.

1614
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: And and real talent, and then they said, okay, well

1615
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: this is a property that people clearly are hungry for.

1616
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: It's both ABC and so they probably said because the

1617
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: Secret Rives is on Hulu.

1618
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 4: Right, yes, yep, yep. And the umbrella there you go

1619
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,480
Speaker 4: is that called Senergy Synergy.

1620
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 2: Line.

1621
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: I was unaware she was selected for such a role.

1622
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 4: I think it's started already or it's starting soon. But

1623
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 4: I'm just like she just I'm gonna watch. I'm gonna

1624
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,719
Speaker 4: just I'm going to be open, but I'm very much judged.

1625
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, as as someone in unscripted television,

1626
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: that you must be very literate and very caught up

1627
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: on the general landscape of it to a degree, it's

1628
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,720
Speaker 2: a lot a lot of Yeah.

1629
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 4: I think you have to also like kind of protect

1630
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 4: your peace and decide like, Okay, I'm gonna step away

1631
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 4: for now. But it's also like, if you are at

1632
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 4: all on socials, you can't you can't escape it, like

1633
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 4: if you're on TMZ or in the shade room, which

1634
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 4: is like that's the Devil's door TMZ. The neighborhood talk

1635
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 4: like these are I follow these these behemoths of social

1636
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: and you're like you you're going to see even people

1637
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 4: like all of our like reputable, like journalistic, all are

1638
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 4: like in the smut of it all.

1639
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: There's something did happen. I well, obviously we know what happened,

1640
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: which is fucking a reality star became the President of

1641
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 1: the United States. But then I do think everything kind

1642
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 1: of collapsed in on itself where it was like there's

1643
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: no it's hard to tell what's an A list star

1644
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 1: now and and and like people.

1645
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 4: People lose their minds in the airport for reality stars, yes,

1646
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 4: but like Angela Bassett.

1647
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: Is standing, yeah exactly like.

1648
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 4: Real talent is. You know, they don't care.

1649
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's the paraso reality of it. It's like I meanwhile,

1650
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 2: for me, whatever, I'll analyze myself later. But it's like

1651
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 2: people feel like they will know you, and so they'll

1652
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: like come up to you and sort of break down

1653
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 2: the familiarity walls a little too quickly, whereas if they

1654
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 2: see someone more quote unquote reputable artistically and whatever whatever

1655
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: that means.

1656
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 4: They're there and another echelon I can't.

1657
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 2: Relate, unreachable. I yes, I don't know too many details

1658
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 2: about their life firsthands.

1659
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 4: Right, but do you before you were you and you

1660
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 4: were you? If you saw like Tiffany Pollard on the street,

1661
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 4: that's different.

1662
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: Well when you when you have also like an occasion

1663
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 1: to speak to them, yes, that's different. So there was

1664
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 1: something like that happened where once I got in the

1665
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: rooms as and I was invited to the room, I

1666
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: was like, now I feel like I can say hello,

1667
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: because like there I always say since I was little,

1668
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,720
Speaker 1: like my idol was Kelly Clarkson, oh idle idol, and

1669
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: I remember when you performed on her show too. I

1670
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,160
Speaker 1: was so proud of you. I was like, yeah, Kelly,

1671
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: even though it was COVID and virtual. Yes, But I

1672
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: had gotten to the point where like there were a

1673
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: few times where I could have gone up to her

1674
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: randomly and said hello, but I was like, no, I

1675
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: have to wait because I knew I was manifesting like

1676
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 1: interacting with her like in some way. And then I

1677
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 1: got to meet her on her show when I was

1678
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: a guest so I was just like, I'm happy I

1679
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: waited because I never think anyone's gonna want to talk

1680
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 1: to me anyway.

1681
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: Like why why?

1682
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:50,600
Speaker 5: And it's not to say that.

1683
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 4: I My friends call me a friendly hoe because I

1684
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:56,640
Speaker 4: will stop and talk to everybody I love, Like when

1685
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 4: people want to come to me talking, that's me. I

1686
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 4: don't think I'm with you that anyone wants to hear

1687
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 4: my from me story about how I was crying because

1688
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 4: you when you threw your butter knife, maybe one for

1689
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: my butter knife.

1690
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: Like I don't.

1691
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 4: Permission right your I was liberated to throw butter knife,

1692
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 4: But I don't think you care.

1693
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,919
Speaker 2: Have you been in have you had that occasion with Tiffany.

1694
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 4: I've never met Tiffany. I've never been in proximity to her.

1695
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: So if you are in like a room with her

1696
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 2: where everybody's sort of like like the social glue is there,

1697
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 2: would you go up.

1698
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 4: To the would because like you, I feel like I'm in

1699
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 4: a space where I've arrived enough.

1700
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Enough.

1701
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 4: I still have more arriving to do, but I've arrived

1702
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 4: enough where it's like okay, we are, like we're there's

1703
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 4: synergy here where like in a similar zeitgeist, of things,

1704
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 4: and yes.

1705
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 1: I need to We need to see you guys in

1706
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: conversation next year. Variety Actors on actors, I want to

1707
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: see everyone moves up and then in timpany. This is

1708
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I know we can make it happen.

1709
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 1: This is a place where things get manifested.

1710
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 4: I'm a manifestor. However, I will say a good friend

1711
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 4: of mine, Cammy Crawford. Do you know Cammy?

1712
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1713
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 4: She was Miss TENUSA, She was on she hosted Catfish

1714
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:22,879
Speaker 4: with No She has a podcast called Relationship. She recently

1715
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,879
Speaker 4: did a post where she met a woman like randomly

1716
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 4: at the grove. The woman was like, do you say

1717
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 4: do you manifest? And she was, of course And the

1718
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 4: woman was like, well stop, you need to women fest.

1719
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:40,839
Speaker 5: White a damn minute.

1720
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 1: Sure If that's not.

1721
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 5: So, I'm no longer manifesting.

1722
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: I am a woman. Yeah, okay. It is Women's History

1723
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Month and I think we have fully gay guy infested

1724
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,519
Speaker 1: A full banger of an episode with you today.

1725
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 4: I could talk to you.

1726
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 1: I swear like we have always like looked to the

1727
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: screen and just had so much fun watching you. You're

1728
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:06,679
Speaker 1: so just like you carry the light and we love

1729
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: watching you crush. Of course you're the star of the Traders,

1730
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: like when you and Rina pulled off those cloaks to

1731
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 1: see each other. Know that that was also the response

1732
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Speaker 1: we were having at home and I called you like,

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01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 1: I can't deal with who they pi. I pumped my

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01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: fist ye and hated it in the moment it does.

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Speaker 4: That was brilliant.

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01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,839
Speaker 1: We adore you. Are you going on tour with Tamar

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01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 1: family values?

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Speaker 4: You know, we are the Braxtons and you'll see what

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01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 4: is the song? We are the Braxtons and you'll see

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01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 4: we are not like and I don't know the words

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01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 4: Tony Tracy, why not teach yes?

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01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 1: And she's no, yes, no.

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01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: I long long live the Braxton But I will say,

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01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 4: I know we have to go. But like they say,

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01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 4: you're not supposed to meet your heroes, I actually like

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01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 4: would be terrified to meet Tony well level, I would

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01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:08,799
Speaker 4: be terrified. I've obviously met Tamar. I toured with Tamar

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01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 4: on her Love and War tour, and then I have

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01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 4: a song with Tracy Braxton mast and she's probably my

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Speaker 4: favorite Braxton because she is just just insane, like the

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Speaker 4: just the funniest, most hilarious person you will ever meet

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01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 4: in your life and so kind and so just sisterly

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01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 4: and a mentor. And Tamar is that to me as well.

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01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 4: But there's there's no one I would I don't like

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01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,879
Speaker 4: get starstruck. I would like melt into.

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01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: The carpets Tony Braxton.

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Speaker 4: I would just rather adore her from afar.

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 2: I understand, you.

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01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 4: Know, like she's I would I would convulse.

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01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 1: I saw her in on Broadway and I yeah, this

1761
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 1: was like two thousand maybe right, but I'm telling you.

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01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: She went in as one of the replacements and I

1763
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 1: was like, we're going a little ten year old, like

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01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 1: little closeted gay wipe by. I was like, we have

1765
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: to see how you do to my parents and they

1766
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 1: were like okay. And I believe Dina Mendel was m Nerris. Yeah, sure, sure,

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: yeah it was. It was star studded. I think it

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01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:23,560
Speaker 1: felt like that. Anyways, we love you. This was you

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01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: last and a half.

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01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 4: Thank you guys.

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01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 1: Stream it all. I hope you've watched the Traders, otherwise

1772
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 1: you're spoiled today. But if not, you know, it's still fun.

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01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: It's still fun if only stream it. Because it's all

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01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: about the streaming numbers and the upcoming impending album. She's

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01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 2: not going to give us the scoop tonight, but we're

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01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 2: going to get it.

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01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 4: Oh, you'll get it soon.

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01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 5: I love it.

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01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: Okay.

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01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 1: We end every episode with the song it's really thank

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01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: complain remember this one. The conversation, Trust me, that's not what.

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01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: You want them back and forth.

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01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:09,560
Speaker 1: I want oh because you know how disrespect Oh every.

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01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 2: Week got my bet out of the diet, got me

1785
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 2: pissed up.

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01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: From my head.

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01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: Juice voice over you.

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01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: Number right back. You can put it down now. We're

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01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:29,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna promo stream the rest of it.

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01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: If you want to hear it on Deep Space please.

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01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: Last Culture Reciss is the production by Will Ferrell's Big

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01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: Money Players in My Heart Radio.

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01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang,

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01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: executive produced by Anna hasby A and produced by.

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01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: Becker Ramos, Edited and mixed by Duck Babe and our

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01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: Music is by Henry Murski