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Speaker 2: Look at this now, Timpton, Jesus, oh doing what.

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Speaker 3: It's time to be?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the only combat sports show fueled by melancholy

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Speaker 2: gas station Delta.

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Speaker 3: It's in a copious amount of infinite sadness. You've arrived.

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Speaker 3: It is Morning Combat, Monday, July twenty ninth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: My name is b Sizzle, Brian Campbell. The guy next

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Speaker 3: to me body for days, with diary for life. It's Luke.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's true. I had enormous diary over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I mean you may or may not have texted me

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Speaker 3: from Joseph A Bank.

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Speaker 1: I took. I took, and I'm not joking about this.

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Speaker 1: I took one of the great dumps of my life

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Speaker 1: in a Joseph A Bank. Would you say it was

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Speaker 1: over the weekend?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Maret? What's the guy's name? Dan merkleyat to ask, Oh, dude,

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Speaker 3: Big John and Tokyo.

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Speaker 1: This triple flusher wow, tripple Wow?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a little to burst.

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Speaker 1: The gross double is a lot. Triple is very unusual.

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Speaker 3: Oh, animal style, I'm sure right out of your a hole. Hey,

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Speaker 3: this is a show that that breaks things down on

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Speaker 3: combat sports, and we got a lot of things to

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Speaker 3: break down this week UFC three oh four recap in

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Speaker 3: my apologies to blow Muhammad this morning.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I've got some crow to eat, but

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Speaker 1: you got a lot of crow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to figure out how to eat some

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Speaker 3: of that apparently, Uh, now serving crow. We're going to

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Speaker 3: break down all things. Hey, how about what a night

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Speaker 3: for Patty Pimble? You know, good thing I called it? Luke,

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Speaker 3: i'man to be fair, right, but wow. We're also going

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Speaker 3: to welcome I think three spectacular guests.

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Speaker 1: Randy Gator, any Gatur at noon? No, the truth about

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Speaker 1: Randy gatoris he's always with me.

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Speaker 3: He will always be on his way here. Brian Ortega,

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Speaker 3: my favorite active MMA fighter. Luke will be here supposedly

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Speaker 3: at noon. In second half of the show. How about

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Speaker 3: Andy Ruiz Junior, the former heavyweight champion of the world,

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Speaker 3: who is going to be back Saturday this Saturday, August third,

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Speaker 3: by the way, taking on Drell Miller right, yes, in

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Speaker 3: main event, moving up to face Israel madrom Off. More

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Speaker 3: on that to come. In the show. But this, Luke,

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Speaker 3: but it's decently potent. Can we bring in Long Island

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Speaker 3: Luke here? Luke, can you speak to the potency of

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Speaker 3: my feces?

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Speaker 5: It's very potent. I could smell it from here.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. And here's the reality. We have two guests booked.

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Speaker 1: Will they show up? I don't know. You never know

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Speaker 1: in the world of combat sports whether or not the

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Speaker 1: MMA fighters of the boxers will be there. I try

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Speaker 1: not to hold grudges anymore. I won't try anymore anymore.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, But so Joanna will be a life.

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Speaker 1: And he knew well that one was just so uniquely awful.

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Speaker 3: and also the merch luke. I've got a I've got

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Speaker 3: looks back at when it went down late night in Manchester, England.

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Speaker 1: We have to have a conversation in a moment about

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Speaker 1: leon or did he have an off night? But he

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think you nailed it. I said

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Speaker 3: I didn't call the right finish. Nailed it. Yeah, Luke,

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Speaker 3: I wonder if that led to us overrating Leon. We

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Speaker 3: sitting here humbly apologizing and happy that Belall was able

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Speaker 3: But Luke, ultimately what I missed the most. You know,

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Speaker 3: What impressed me and shocked me the most was he

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Speaker 3: I just don't see it. I don't see him at

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Speaker 3: And and was I disrespectful? I could have been towing

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Speaker 1: I would say this, if I may say it fairly.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you were I don't think you were

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Speaker 1: I've made this mistake before, indignant at the idea, Yeah

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Speaker 3: that's why I make the kabipepparison. It was or sorry Habib.

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Speaker 3: But instead what he delivered is ultimately who he is,

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Speaker 6: It sounds like all the.

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Speaker 3: People booing right now, I've got a lot of tears

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Speaker 5: I see you guys with watery eyes right now.

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Speaker 7: I got my family in here, I got all my

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Speaker 3: That the hand of that God first.

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Speaker 8: Always.

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Speaker 7: Secondly, this fight is nothing. This is for my family,

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Speaker 3: I've had people say, look, isn't doesn't he actually embody

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Speaker 3: he kind of does. I miss completely what this guy

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Speaker 3: Turns out he was just sharpening his focus. I give

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Speaker 3: him credit. He was fighting for more. We're gonna praise

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Speaker 3: As you could hear from him, He just did that

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Speaker 3: I was very impressed with the character that he ultimately showed,

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to disparage or take anything away from

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say is more ball than anything else.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't that there wasn't any case for some skepticism,

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. He didn't out just out gas tank him.

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Speaker 3: So there's no, I don't want to do the revision

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Speaker 3: in that one area. But you did see the revision, sister,

434
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Speaker 3: right away, people go and see I told you Leon

435
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,640
Speaker 3: was overrated. Either way, ballall gets that credit. But man,

436
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 3: he did it in every category to get it done.

437
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,760
Speaker 3: That's why I don't I don't take anything away because

438
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 3: it wasn't exciting. He shut down everything Leon does.

439
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: He did shit everything Leon does. And again he had

440
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: picked up there's I don't want to spoil it, but

441
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 1: there are a couple of defensive tendencies in takedowns along

442
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 1: defence that Leon makes. That again, was it Habib, was

443
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 1: it Balal? Was it his coaches? Was at a combination

444
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: of all three? I don't know, but they read it.

445
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: And I went back and I looked at the Luka fight,

446
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: and I looked at the Thompson fight, five takedowns in

447
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: the Luca fight, seven takedowns in the Thompson fight, and

448
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: you don't see these tendencies in those fights. You see

449
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 1: some of it, but not really. In this one. You

450
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: see a clear distinct way in which he tries to

451
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Speaker 1: position himself around Leon to set up the offensive sequences

452
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Speaker 1: that come after it. And they did such a good job.

453
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Speaker 1: I really, again, I didn't think he could do it.

454
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Speaker 1: I wasn't like retely blown away that he did it,

455
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Speaker 1: but I was skeptical. Man, that long road to the

456
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Speaker 1: title that long road. He really really earned that opportunity.

457
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Speaker 1: And I mean, you want to talk about making the

458
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Speaker 1: most of it by picking up where usman Nikolby could

459
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Speaker 1: not do it and then improving upon that and.

460
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Speaker 3: His fans wominded me that if we're gonna discount the

461
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 3: quality of the win over Gilbert Burns to get here

462
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: because of how Gilbert was he was in a short camp.

463
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 3: Let's not forget that Blall was coming through Ramadan for

464
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: that training camp and really had to I mean, look,

465
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: let me say, to jump over hurdles and push himself

466
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Speaker 3: and be as mentally tough as possible. I want to

467
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Speaker 3: make sure at least post I don't miss it.

468
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Speaker 1: Yes, And I also want to say this too, like

469
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Speaker 1: one thing we had said was, you know, there was

470
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Speaker 1: questions about some of those wins, like the lu k Win.

471
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Speaker 1: Who was Luke at the time and who was Thompson.

472
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Speaker 1: I tell you what, someone brought this up to me.

473
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Speaker 1: I forget who it was. On Twitter. They're like, shouldn't

474
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Speaker 1: you go back and reevaluate that Sean Brady Win. Why,

475
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Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that Sean brady Win is aging nicely.

476
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and maybe Brady got rattled. But like, look

477
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Speaker 1: at the pressure that Blall puts on people. I'm gonna

478
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Speaker 1: point this out the just the level of activity. How

479
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 1: much rest does Ballall give you? Not much. He constantly

480
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: forces you to play a game sure where you can't

481
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: think through decisions, and so you make suboptimal ones, You'll

482
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: make defensive lapses, you'll make wrong offensive reads or at

483
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: least not the right ones suboptimally, and then he's just

484
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: all over you because he's built in this reaction machine

485
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Speaker 1: that he's got. And I don't want to point this out,

486
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: like people don't talk about this enough. Once he shoots,

487
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: he knows exactly where he's going, and if you defend

488
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: this way, he knows exactly what the response will be,

489
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: and if you defend that way, he knows exactly what

490
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Speaker 1: the third option should be. There's a route tree that

491
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Speaker 1: he knows offensively and goes to it and it's very

492
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Speaker 1: very difficult to deal but.

493
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Speaker 3: He needs the five round championship cardio. Despite this was

494
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: only a second fight that went to the fifth round

495
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Speaker 3: in his career, so it's like he had that when

496
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Speaker 3: he needed it at thirty six. So Luke now Woodley

497
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: Edwards ends up losing three to two, three to two,

498
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Speaker 3: and four to one. He rallies back in the fifth

499
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Speaker 3: round to cut ed to cut. I'm sorry, Balala and

500
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Speaker 3: Bloss to show the toughness and show and keep that

501
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: gas tank together to survive that. Most people across the

502
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Speaker 3: board I believe giving Leon round three as you should,

503
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: because he did rebound down two seemingly to kind of

504
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: dominate that round start to finish on the ground, getting

505
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: a takedown of his own and threatening subs throughout. But Luke,

506
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: I want to run what happened in round two and

507
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: ask you, Look, this was Muhammad causing this to him,

508
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 3: so it's no excuse. But how much did this pile

509
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 3: driver here, Luke, in which Leon did not protect his head,

510
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 3: in your opinion, affect him. It had to be some

511
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 3: You can't say it. You can't put all your eggs

512
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: in that basket because he came out a round after

513
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: this and completely dominate Blal. What do you think though?

514
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 3: This had to rattle the cobwebs in the head and

515
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: really put you in a tough spot.

516
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was great. He did post on

517
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: the hand there to mitigate that somewhat. That was bad, though,

518
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 1: couldn't have helped, probably rattled him. But like remember, dude,

519
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: Ballag got to take down twenty seconds into the first round,

520
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: and you didn't hear Leon complained about it afterwards. I'm

521
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: not saying that it shouldn't have been complained about, or

522
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: that there aren't issues about spiking him on his head

523
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: that particular way, but that just doesn't explain.

524
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: Why should we outlaw that in MMA or is it

525
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: is so one outlaws it completely okay, one has it

526
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: in the UFC you can still technically spike on the

527
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Speaker 3: top of that.

528
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Speaker 1: I think there are certain ways about how you can

529
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: and can't do it. You can do it. I think

530
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: it's part of an arc. I have to go back

531
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: and look at some of the rules. There are ways

532
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: in which you can do it that would seem like

533
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Speaker 1: be forbidden.

534
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 3: I would think that you can outlaw that and it's

535
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: not going to hurt the game because how many people

536
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 3: try to weaponize that. Obviously, when you pick somebody up,

537
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: your goals to slam them and try to add injury

538
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,239
Speaker 3: to that and jump on top of them. But if

539
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 3: it's something that can lead somebody paralyzed, we probably should

540
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: get ahead of that.

541
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Speaker 1: Right Again, I don't think it's a very essential technique. Also,

542
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he meant to do it. I think

543
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: he meant to just turn him over. I don't think

544
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: he meant to drive, which doesn't necessarily you know, do you.

545
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 3: Think Leon gass himself out at all by using so

546
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 3: much energy in round three to take the back. I'm

547
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what happened in four or five where, yes,

548
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: he did rally in.

549
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: The fifth, I was a great rally in the fifth,

550
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: but he.

551
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: Was unable to keep Leon. I'm not keep allow off

552
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: of him? Was Leon in rounds four or five? For

553
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: the most.

554
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: Part, Lall was just better.

555
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

556
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: The Lall was just better overall. I mean again, in

557
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: open space, if there was no wall, they could just

558
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: fight forever. Takedowns are gonna be hard to come by

559
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: for Ballall. Some of them he would still get, but

560
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: they'd be hard to come by if they were striking

561
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: an open space. I do, and he wasn't really so

562
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: much worried about having to be taken down against the wall.

563
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: Maybe Leon's better. I just lost my hearing in this thing.

564
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 1: Can you still hear me talking?

565
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 9: Here?

566
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Here we go, We're but that's not the game they're playing.

567
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: Like for example, for example, that was it round two.

568
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: I believe Edwards has an underhook and he's blocking the

569
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: far side hip like this, and he's turning him off

570
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the fence. Thellall just took that and then switched to

571
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: a knee tap and then ran him right over back

572
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: to the back there like he was on top of it,

573
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: on top of it. They knew, dude.

574
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Speaker 3: He he was preparing for the rematch for three years,

575
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: while Edwards was the one who was actually maybe overlooking.

576
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Speaker 1: I hate that the that the Ninos say this these days,

577
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: But he knew the assign sign. He knew the assignment.

578
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: He prepared for that test much better than Leo ntil.

579
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: The victor goes the spoils, and that might be it

580
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: might be Shavka Rochmantoff. Next at thirty six, here Blal

581
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: raised his stock. He's probably gonna get some palmful palm

582
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: votes rightfully after what he just did to a guy

583
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: that I believe was in the top three or four

584
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: on most people's list. Luke, how do you like Ballal's

585
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: chances leaning into his strengths like he did against Edwards,

586
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: even against somebody like Shavka.

587
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: So I think, listen, Ballall is obviously not a champion

588
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: by accident, got here the hard way, beat people that

589
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: no one wanted, no one wanted to fight Sean Brady,

590
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: he did it, and he fucking stopped him right, And

591
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: obviously everyone wants to fight Leon, but not very easy

592
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: to do. And you saw what Ballall did, So it

593
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: would be very, very foolish to just dismiss the idea

594
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: that Ballall can't retain, you know, right away. I don't

595
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: want to be that guy, but I do think it's

596
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: fair to say if you want to be fair to

597
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: both guys. Shavcott is a tough, fucking customer man, and

598
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 1: he's got all kinds of tricks and rows up against

599
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: the fence. That's the interesting part, because if he stops

600
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: the takedown up against the fence, or at least holds

601
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: it off for just a moment, he's got all kinds

602
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: of tricks, trips, throws, you name it. From that position

603
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: to get on top. Seventeen fights, seventeen wins, seventeen finishes,

604
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: and that's the other part. Look at Leon, who was

605
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: able to reverse position in the fifth and it was

606
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 1: enough to win the fifth at least on a couple

607
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: of judges scorecards, and certainly, I mean it was a

608
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: gruesome scene there for a moment. If you let Chavcott

609
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: hang around for twenty five minutes, I'm not sure there's

610
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: a person in M M A in the welterweight division

611
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: he can't beat under that that issue, though, I'm intrigued. Oh,

612
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: it's very It's like, well, All is gonna win rounds

613
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: against that guy.

614
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: Make no mistake, see big fights in either sport, big

615
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: big fights in Chicago. I'd like to see that be

616
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 3: an excuse. Let's let's let's let when they.

617
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: Were with Fox, when UFC had the Fox deal. Remember

618
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: Chefchenko did the arm bar on Holly Holmes over in Chicago.

619
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: They used to go to Chicago quite frequently. Beltor made it.

620
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: A big deal their decision against Home. You're saying she's

621
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Speaker 3: a minute or.

622
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: Was it painar that she hit the ar bar on?

623
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: Either way, one of those fights took place in Chicago,

624
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: or was a ship of checking Fox cart in Chicago,

625
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: but also Belitore used to go there quite frequently. Now,

626
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if folks picked up

627
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: on this news. They had an event Beltour did scheduled

628
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: for September. That event is canceled or it's going to

629
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: be rescheduled. You can no longer get tickets for it.

630
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: They took it off the list. So just pointing out

631
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: there's something else that there's a there's a market there

632
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: that I think could be really great for everybody, even

633
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: for belitar Well, I mean Belitre is just a name. Luke.

634
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: We mentioned the whole bonus thing. We have sound of

635
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: Dana White being so this is not his specific sound

636
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: where he reacted to this fight, where he did sound

637
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: a little bit disappointed, didn't think it was a barn burner,

638
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: didn't didn't think it was exciting enough. But overall, Luke,

639
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 3: he seemed upset about getting tricked into once again raising

640
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 3: the bonuses during the press conference. Here's his words in

641
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: general about three or four.

642
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 7: You know, every time you get on a press conference,

643
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 7: the fight has managed to get you to up the bonuses.

644
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 3: Do you think there's an argument that maybe you should

645
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: just up them?

646
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 6: I think tonight showed that we should not.

647
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 10: Now.

648
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 6: Opping them doesn't cheer, ain't anything, It doesn't make anybody

649
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: fight any harder, it doesn't doesn't change anything. I'm not

650
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 6: doing this again.

651
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 3: Ever.

652
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 6: Ever, today was the last the last day that I'm

653
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 6: doing that. Not saying that in the future the bonuses

654
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: couldn't get up, but I'm not gonna be at a

655
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 6: press conference say two hydred three hundred fucking never again,

656
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 6: never again. So you could thank everybody on this card

657
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 6: for that. Yeah, nobody fought any harder. There was no

658
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 6: sense of urgency. Holy shit, I want the hundred thousand

659
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 6: seven straight. Who gives a fuck? It's uh fucking seven

660
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 6: o'clock in Vegas, so whatever, Yeah, never again. Seven straight

661
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 6: fucking decisions. Yeah, the one hundred thousand was was a

662
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 6: real big fucking woo. Let's get it boys, buck that shit.

663
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 6: Never again, Okay, Luke.

664
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Speaker 3: I do think Patty and Tom aspinall kind of saved

665
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: this card in a way because it was all those

666
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: decisions in a row that weren't peaking for full excitement.

667
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: Is this the boss just being angry that they didn't

668
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 3: bring it to his level or what do you make

669
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: of it?

670
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Whilse in this room has argued that upping the bonuses

671
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: did nothing to actually incentivize you're.

672
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: About UFC three.

673
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that. I definitely don't think.

674
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: I think if you did a poll of the audience.

675
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with the truth value of anything.

676
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: Polling the audience what does that mean?

677
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: Are you trying to insult the intelligence level of my audience?

678
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Could pull anybody polling them is not evidence of anything.

679
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: The reality is what you can reasonably demonstrate as an

680
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: incentivizing factor by a noticeable and clear change in behavior,

681
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: of which there is not enough evidence to conclude that.

682
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: And now we have another way.

683
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: You have to be a scientific study.

684
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: It's not But like, if you're going to make a claim, hey,

685
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: doing this changes behavior, you have to have evidence for

686
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 1: your claim.

687
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean, is this the like, like I said, it

688
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: hit a ditch this card, but they pulled it out.

689
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if this was the card to be

690
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: like this sucks. I'm the hater la.

691
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: I agree with data that upping the bonuses doesn't do anything,

692
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: but of course, like that's not a reason to not

693
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: pay the guys more because like the they deserve more.

694
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: That's a different conversation. But I would say this, it

695
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: is very, very hilarious to me that they booked a

696
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: card at six in the morning with the main event

697
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 1: that anybody with half a brain new did not necessarily

698
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: have the highest potential for a finish, a finish or

699
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: even great action necessarily and then blaming the fighters for

700
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: not like rescuing it from that reality. That's a choice.

701
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: That's a choice you can make if you want to.

702
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: I agree with you, I don't like it. Dana had

703
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: one other choice to make. I want I do you

704
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: want to get your take on this when the whole

705
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: flaggate was brought up again, Let's listen to this reporter's question.

706
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Speaker 10: Colna put the Palestine flag behind him on the fence,

707
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 10: and what it looked like from presol was they were

708
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Speaker 10: told to put it down. So I was just wondering

709
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 10: because there were other flags shown throughout the night. But

710
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 10: that's if that was kind of random, that's policy thing

711
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 10: because of the war.

712
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: Hey what.

713
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 10: Colina had the Palestine flag behind him and.

714
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: Dana doing a bit here when you can never hear

715
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: the question?

716
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 10: So was that random or is it like a policy

717
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 10: thing because of he put a Palestine flag.

718
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 6: Palace that s teime flag and somebody said take it down.

719
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 6: Who said take it down?

720
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 10: I don't know it was, but it looked like it

721
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 10: was someone from the U S. There was like two

722
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 10: people just like telling them to don't put it, don't

723
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 10: put it on the fims.

724
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: Look like there are people from UFC whor they're wearing

725
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 6: fucking UFC hats or I mean name tags.

726
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 10: Unless I wouldn't have been I have no idea, but

727
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 10: that's not like a new flag policy thing because of anything.

728
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 6: I have no idea. I get what you're trying to do,

729
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 6: but I have no idea just because yeah, yeah, yeah,

730
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: I know what you're trying to do. I know what

731
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 6: you're trying to do. Good try. I don't fucking I

732
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 6: have no idea, but good try. You guys love to

733
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 6: do that ship.

734
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: Well, he's in a mood.

735
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: This is not a gotcha this is and he.

736
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Walked off like he's in a he was in a

737
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: bad mood.

738
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: But like to be fair, this is not a gotcha thing.

739
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: This is a if he didn't know that there. I mean,

740
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: he's the CEO, so I don't know why he wouldn't know.

741
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: But assuming he didn't know what happened, I understand, being

742
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: like I'd have to look into it. I genuinely do

743
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: not know what's this.

744
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: Always this disdain for the fucking media, But this is

745
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: not the media trying to spin something. This is literally

746
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: got doing his job, trying to get an answer about

747
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: a topic that connects far beyond foots.

748
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: The media doing its job is what disturbs him. That's

749
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to Like, that's what people don't

750
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: seem to understand. Like that's the and also like getting

751
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: clarification is there a change in flag policy? But I

752
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: will say this in defensive UFC. I think he did

753
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: walk out with the flag, did he not? He walked

754
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: out with the flag? And then they also his walkout

755
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: song is a song by a Palestinian artist and the

756
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: name of the song is My Blood is Palestinian. Yeah. So,

757
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: like his overtures to his culture seemed to be accepted

758
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: on the broadcast. But I don't know what the flag

759
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: policy is at this point. I don't know.

760
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: Well, Luke, let me tell you in a world of

761
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 3: slot reels and blackjack deals, if you can let me

762
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: transition out of this topic, I.

763
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Do want to talk one more thing. What about the

764
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: time zone? What about the timing of the event.

765
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: So you heard Dana quickly say no to it. My

766
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: belief here is it affects everybody. But if everybody signs

767
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 3: up for it and has the same thing to overcome.

768
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: It's like if you and I signed for a number

769
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: one contender fight on two weeks notice, but we're both

770
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 3: dealing with that same two weeks notice, then it's it's equal.

771
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: You either take it or you don't. Ultimately, same thing

772
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: with fighting in another country in a different time zone.

773
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: Same thing unfortunately with fighting at five A. Do I

774
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: want title fights locally at five and six am? No,

775
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: But again there is some leverage, there is some negotiation,

776
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: some level at first Stars, and you ultimately can walk

777
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: out and say I don't want this fight in this situation.

778
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: If everybody has to do it, luke, then to me

779
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: it's even keel. Same thing with the with the the sphere.

780
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: Who knows what the sphere is. Unique atmosphere will do

781
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: to a fighter's focus to everything, like it could be

782
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: this could be you know, sea level can levels of

783
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: just like shock and sort of shaking you up. But

784
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: everybody's going to agree to do it. They agree to

785
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: do it, So I'm okay.

786
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm with that argument. I think that's fair. I think

787
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: if you agree to do it and you have time

788
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: to prepare for it goes poorly for you. You just

789
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: kind of have to live with the consequences a little bit.

790
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I would say a couple of things though. One, you know,

791
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, well, Ballall had the jet lag, right,

792
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: but Ballall is still fighting on East Coast time. He's

793
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: still fighting on the like the timing of the UFC

794
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: pay per view did not change for East Coast American fans.

795
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: His clock is still attuned to that. So while there

796
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: may be jet lag in the sense of normalizing on

797
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: a Manchester calendar, it's still the clock he's keeping largely

798
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: in the US. That's the first thing i'd say. The

799
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: second thing I'd say is I don't like Leon has

800
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: to just recognize that some of his tactical decisions were

801
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: really poor. I mentioned the a high elbow blocking that

802
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: that was just a really, really bad decision, So he

803
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: has to live with that. The thing I will say though,

804
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: is and I had a back and forth with a

805
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: positive one but with Jake Donovan. You know, Jake Donovan

806
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: a well known and very respected boxing reporter. Shots to

807
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Jake Donovan, he's great time boxing, right, So we were

808
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: trying to go back and forth about like, you know,

809
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: he I was like, I could not imagine an a

810
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: side in boxing ring to on the promoter's behalf a

811
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: five or six AM show. At his point was, well,

812
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: some of these Saudi cards are two and three am. Okay, right,

813
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. That's a fair point because if

814
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,479
Speaker 1: you're getting Saudi Arabian money to put on a fight

815
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: at two or three in the morning, they have properly

816
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: incentivized you sure to eat shit on that time, so

817
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: you can do it. But like, none of those dynamics

818
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: are in play for this. One would Bud Crawford for

819
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: a European card fight at six in the morning.

820
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 3: It depends where a fighter is in there arc. For example,

821
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: Ricky Hatt and his big breakthrough title win was over

822
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: Coast Jazoo. He did it at home in the UK,

823
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 3: that was in Manchester, right, Yeah, they did it on showtime,

824
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: but they did it live on East Coast Time, so

825
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: it was the same exact thing and everybody there had

826
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: to stay up until the middle of the night to

827
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: do that. But again at that point, that was what

828
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 3: was demanded in the TV landscape. You could easily make

829
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: the argument now that, especially with UFC's distribution deal and

830
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: that you know how expected was this card to do

831
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: big pay per view numbers anyway, does it even matter

832
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 3: to their bottom line? Would I on the East Coast

833
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: who this is supposed to be aiming for, Would I

834
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: rather have it regular time at one thirty am or

835
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: would I rather have it, you know, dinner time at

836
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: five pm Eastern? I'd rather have that. So it really

837
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: comes down to me, like, who has the leverage to

838
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: push against that? If you don't and that's your fight

839
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: and you have to sign up for it, well then

840
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: everybody's dealing with it. But I would I think the

841
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: only argument here is why does it have to be

842
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 3: that way? This isn't a card that they needed on

843
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: in my opinion, on regular East Coast time to like

844
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: bring the justified traffic again.

845
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: They the UFC in twenty twenty three made more than

846
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: all other MMA and boxing promoters combined. They're spending what

847
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: thirty twenty third twenty five to thirty million on this

848
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: sphere card, which, by the way, could be a gigantic hit.

849
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: It could be a bus. We don't even know. It

850
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: probably won't be a bus, But who's to say, like

851
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: exactly what it will be? We don't know. You mean

852
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: to tell me they can't forego a little bit to

853
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: give the Manchester fans something that's more appropriate, even like

854
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: delaying it a little bit, changing the time a little bit.

855
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: I just find it if your Ricky Hatton and showtime

856
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: is trying to incentivize you, or you're taking money from

857
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, that's life changing. And you want to fight

858
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: at those times, that's fine. Here's my thought. In a

859
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: world where they're making them fight at six am and

860
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: they're like, bonuses are still going to be fifty k,

861
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: it's like, maybe give them one hundred k if you're

862
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: asking them to fight at six in the morning. That's

863
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: kind of my only thought. Even if you don't change

864
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: the behavior, you.

865
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: Have the potential to get diminishing results.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think we could be here so quickly, but

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Speaker 3: Curtis Blades, which has come out here and be this

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Speaker 3: real deal heavyweight. Two point zero, quick hands, quick feet,

921
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 3: no flaws in the game, but even if they are,

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Speaker 3: here that because the call out, you know, I wanted

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Speaker 3: he went with the polite rod. In fact, let's listen

927
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Speaker 3: to it first and then I'll follow my point.

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Speaker 12: Hello John, I have nothing against you personally, but I

929
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Speaker 12: just think I'm better than you.

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Speaker 5: I just know that can be here in a fine

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Speaker 5: so I'm coming for it.

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Speaker 3: Luke no insults of John and his police history, but

933
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Speaker 3: I'm here, I've arrived. I think I'm better than you.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it now. If he makes that statement a

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942
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Speaker 3: Tom Aspinall. We're all sort of just saying that, accepting

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Speaker 3: gonna be my follow up question back to you on this. Ultimately, Yes,

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Speaker 3: I think John Jones is back into a corner where

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Speaker 3: But are you of that belief here that what Aspinall

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if he doesn't take it, he's duck.

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Speaker 1: And let's just be very clear about it. If you

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979
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Speaker 1: They have a contractual relationship that they need to figure out.

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Speaker 1: But after that, if he doesn't take it, and of

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Speaker 3: So does he deserve Deontay Wilder money to take this risk?

984
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Speaker 3: Is this the fight now? Where you pay for what

985
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Speaker 3: he's worth and what's worth?

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Speaker 1: Whatever my disagreements with John, he has always been right

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Speaker 1: that's fine. I think the lesson from UFC three oh

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Speaker 1: year old semi retired fireman. Yes, I know Stepe has

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Speaker 3: Five twenty one was was Steve Bays last?

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Speaker 1: Right, So we're talking about nearly four years to the

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Speaker 1: a one in almost five? Yes, that's a joke. That's

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Speaker 1: a joke that has no business taking place for a

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Speaker 1: UFC title. That is such a ridiculous joke. Meanwhile, they

1028
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Speaker 1: can't find a ranked heavyweight to take tom Aspinall past

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Speaker 1: the fucking two minute mark. This is past a two

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1032
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Speaker 1: the division. We should just say it outright. Whatever the

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Speaker 1: title on paper is more significant because he is, on

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Speaker 3: Heavyweight chancause he's out here earning it.

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Speaker 1: Tom Aspinall is your UFC heavyweight champion. And their resumes

1039
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: at heavyweight are not not even comparable.

1040
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's going in there against Pavlovitch when he's

1041
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Speaker 3: on that streak and knocking him out early before he

1042
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Speaker 3: gets a chance to set up. So, Luke, look, the

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Speaker 3: narratives move quickly in this game. A lot of people

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Speaker 3: But people are already starting to say, like, he's showing

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Speaker 3: us that he's building the foundation to give you the

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Speaker 3: greatest career of a heavyweight in history. Now, I mean,

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Speaker 3: there's always gonna be that problem or we talking about

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Speaker 3: YOU'FC history, or we're talking about we're comparing to Fador.

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Speaker 3: But let's just say UFC history for a second. Obviously

1051
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Speaker 3: he's not there because he hasn't accomplished it yet. But

1052
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Speaker 3: the speed and ease in which tom Asmaaul is slicing

1053
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Speaker 3: through the competition up to this point, like, is he

1054
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: building something that could lead him to being heavyweight two

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Speaker 3: point zero and maybe the greatest fighter this division has

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Speaker 3: ever seen.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the funny part about all of that. His

1058
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Speaker 1: offense is it's nuclear powered, right, we talked about it.

1059
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: His foot speed, his hand speed, and his power. I

1060
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Speaker 1: mean he dropped blades with a jab, Yeah, with the

1061
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: right hand, didn't even land on him. And then his

1062
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: finishing flurries are and once that gets going, you know,

1063
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: the feeding frenzy is over.

1064
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Speaker 3: Plats have an argument for it being stopped.

1065
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Speaker 1: So what I would say about the stoppage itself, if

1066
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Speaker 1: I may, is that what the argument is is what

1067
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Speaker 1: by the time Goddard intervened Right at the same time,

1068
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1069
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Speaker 1: But the thing is, Goddard let him have a chance.

1070
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Speaker 1: There was amount of time he let expire where he

1071
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Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything and Tom is pounding on him. It

1072
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Speaker 1: does qualify as non intelligent defense. And it went on

1073
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Speaker 1: long enough for god Or to have intervened. So was

1074
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Speaker 1: Blades completely knocked into unconsciousness? No, but Goddard, you know

1075
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: we beat referees up all the time for bad calls.

1076
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 1: I don't think this is one of those. I think

1077
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: it's a justifiable stoppage based on the information and the

1078
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: situation that Goddard had encountered. But I forget the point

1079
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: we were on.

1080
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 3: The point we were on is is aspinall show?

1081
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: You right? This is why the John Jones fight kind

1082
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: of needs to happen among any other number of reasons,

1083
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: like for title unification, for legacy, for the whole nine yards.

1084
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 1: But the other one is this dude. There is still

1085
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: a lot that is not known about Aspinall's game, and

1086
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: he cross steps, he leans back all the time, He

1087
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: makes bad decisions in the stand up department. Defensively, he

1088
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: gets hit because he plays a little bit reckless. There's

1089
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: been two takedown attempts on him by people who weren't

1090
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: even really good at wrestling, and he stuffed both of them.

1091
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: John Jones versus Tom Aspinall is any number of things,

1092
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: but one of the things that it is at its

1093
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: core is a highly intriguing fight, just on style terms,

1094
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: just on that, because how did John beat Cyril Gone?

1095
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: It was with the wrestling up against the fence and

1096
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: everything else, and of course gone shit the bet. I

1097
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: expect Tom to put up a much sturdier fight in

1098
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: that regard, But like, how does Tom's cardio look after

1099
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes? We have no fucking.

1100
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: Idea, just like we have no idea what John looks

1101
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: like at heavyweight after There's so many questions. For that reason,

1102
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: this is the biggest threat in sport right now. Because

1103
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 3: if your answer is yes, then I say, is this

1104
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: the fight that Turkey, Ala Chic and Saudi should come

1105
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: in and give the same type of financial investment that

1106
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 3: they do for the really big boxing ones. For how

1107
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: much it seems Turkey wants to make Crawford Canelo right

1108
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: now more than anything is making everything we want in boxing?

1109
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 3: Is this the right fight so that John Jones can

1110
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 3: finally get as wilder money because he does deserve it.

1111
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 3: This is a big test and big risk. If and God,

1112
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: who's not walking through that door and he's not Tom?

1113
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 3: Is that next guy? I want to see John paid

1114
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 3: for it? Do you put this Luke in a stadium

1115
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: in Las Vegas, in a stadium in the UK on

1116
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: Saudi soil because they have to pay for it? Is

1117
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 3: this fight big enough to be one of those cultural

1118
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 3: milestones in the history of our fandom?

1119
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes it is. I mean I don't know if

1120
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: you could do a soccer stadium, I don't quite know

1121
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: how that would work. But this is a premier. Like

1122
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 1: when you think about the biggest fights that can be

1123
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: made in m A, it's certainly the biggest fights that

1124
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: can be made in the UFC because the Francis and

1125
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 1: Gondu equation is an interesting one still too. But nevertheless,

1126
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: if we're just talking about the UFC strictly, that universe there,

1127
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: Connor coming back is obviously going to be big. I

1128
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: think Max and Volk is certainly going to have some

1129
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: level of acclaim. But John Jones versus Tom Aspinall for

1130
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: the undisputed heavyweight title is easily, if not the biggest

1131
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: top three and probably the biggest of importance, of relevance

1132
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: of style contrast of I don't think we're having a

1133
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: generational battle.

1134
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: Conversation if he doesn't walk through Blades in the matter

1135
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: he did in the same matter he did Pavlovitch like

1136
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: he's just slightly.

1137
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't think John wants to fight either of those guys,

1138
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: either Blades or Pavlovitch. I mean he even said, remember

1139
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: when he quoted me saying it wasn't more worthy. Tom

1140
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Aspinall beat Pavlovich and Blades in a combined two minutes

1141
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: and nine seconds, Like, dude, this is the guy, This

1142
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: is the guy at heavyweight, this is the flag bear.

1143
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck whether it says interim in

1144
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: front of his title or not. That's the guy, and

1145
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: either John Jones wants to do something about that because

1146
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: he thinks his title is more important, or he wants

1147
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: to duck. Those are the choices of You know.

1148
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: What, Tom made this happen quick. He escalated this conversation

1149
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: because of how quickly he continues to ratchet up his

1150
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: game and raise that potential. Let me say that I

1151
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: think John has to answer the phone now. Look, I

1152
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: think he does.

1153
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: I think he does too. Let me say this. I

1154
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: had mentioned this point before where John had said something,

1155
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: but I do think it's true, which is He's seen

1156
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: so many guys be like, I'm coming for you, John,

1157
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: and then they get tripped up along the way. Phil

1158
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: Davis is the biggest one, where he thought he was

1159
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna fight John had to fight Rumble, and then Rumble

1160
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: had another thing for him and it completely derailed everything.

1161
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: And I think John has been waiting for history to

1162
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: play out that way again, except the exact opposite is happening.

1163
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: They keep putting guys in front of Tom Aspinall and

1164
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: he keeps mowing them the fuck down. This is it.

1165
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: It is either fight Aspinall or duck and then live

1166
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: with the consequences of it. Those are the choices in

1167
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: front of him.

1168
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 3: Welastpanal has an interesting idea for this fall in November.

1169
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 3: Let's hear that.

1170
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 12: It is a thought fall I was thinking about this

1171
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 12: the other day. What about So they're saying that State

1172
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 12: pay and John Jones going to fight in MSG in November,

1173
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 12: Why don't we do a tournament. We'll do John Steepe

1174
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 12: me Alex and do a fall On tournament. Two fights

1175
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 12: in one night, and let's find out who the real

1176
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 12: heavyweight champion in the world is. Like, we've got the

1177
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 12: best heavyweight of all time, we've got the the best

1178
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 12: ever a fight of all time, We've got the light

1179
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 12: heavyweight champion, and then we've got me, who's just a

1180
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 12: POxy interim champion.

1181
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

1182
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 12: Let's do that two fights in one night, put it

1183
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 12: to day and I'm sure Dane is going to be

1184
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 12: here in a minute, and uh he's been.

1185
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 13: Dana didn't really like the idea of him moving up.

1186
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

1187
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 12: This is I am honestly the biggest fan of Alex Brera.

1188
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 12: What that light He is one scary guy. But will

1189
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 12: that would be a cool little little thing. Two fights

1190
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 12: in one night. Let's see how we get on. I mean,

1191
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 12: I've got the lowest average fight time in the Europe.

1192
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 3: Look, that's almost given us gravy on top of our gravy,

1193
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: right there? Is that a great idea? Or do you

1194
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 3: not need to risk the Jones fight by doing something so?

1195
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean I would still favorite Tom to win that one,

1196
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: just because I think Tom would run him down and

1197
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: try and take him out down and sub him out

1198
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: like he did against Volkov. I think you get something

1199
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: similar in that way. But I just want to point

1200
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: this out, like, dude, look at this fucking guy. Yes,

1201
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: would he have some advantages and be the favorite over

1202
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,959
Speaker 1: a guy like Poetson for his greatest Poetson is Tom

1203
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: would still have a lot of advantages. He's not necessarily

1204
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: calling out somebody who would be the favorite over him.

1205
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: But who is he not calling out? I know that

1206
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: people want him to fight. Who is he avoiding nothing?

1207
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh that you want me to fight the big scary

1208
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: Brazilian motherfucker. Sign me up, John Jones? Where are you at?

1209
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: Sign me up? He'll fight. They overed him a fight

1210
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: with Francis. Do you think Tom Aspinall turns that down?

1211
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Not in a million fucking years. Is this guy and

1212
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: everybody else has. While I don't know what about the time,

1213
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: what about the place? This guy is absolutely your huckleberry.

1214
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: It does not get out opponent or circumstances.

1215
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 3: I gotta agree with Dana, but it's with a caveat

1216
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 3: if John Jones is not going away. And by the way,

1217
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 3: I think it does come down to money. I think

1218
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 3: it really just comes down to money. If they pay

1219
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: John Jones what he wants, as long as it's not

1220
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 3: crazy astronomical, I think the fight gets done. I think

1221
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: John deserves that. I want them to have that happen.

1222
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 3: But Luke, I don't think we need to do this.

1223
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: We don't need if John Jones is around, we don't

1224
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 3: need prayer to move up to heavyweight. Now it seems

1225
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: to be a you could put a dent in him,

1226
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: and it really could get in the way of that

1227
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: potential trilogy about without assigna for the light heavyweight title.

1228
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 3: So I agree with that. But uh yeah, this John

1229
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: Jones aspinal fight could be massive. The only thing I

1230
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 3: like about what asmaal' is saying with the doubleheader is

1231
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 3: this is old school promotion promotion. What we really want

1232
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 3: is the Jones versus asmenal. So let's put the two

1233
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 3: on the same card in fights that they could lose.

1234
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 3: But let's see what we got and then we'll bang

1235
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: the drum. You don't need to do that here. But man,

1236
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 3: if I'm gonna be greedy, Luke, yeah, I mean, imagine

1237
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: Poton pression that party. Imagine him, you know, being like, sorry, Tom,

1238
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 3: this is my and this is the end of my

1239
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: video game. Either way, I think both can keep. I

1240
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: think I think Tom Yeah, John Jones is gonna be here.

1241
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: He's gonna take it, Luke. He John Jones is a

1242
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: competitor deep inside. You have to respect that in him.

1243
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 3: That's why I was shocked by this talk of retirement.

1244
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: But maybe it's more about first planning the disrespect to

1245
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 3: to Aspinal. You're down here, I'm up here. I'm the

1246
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: real champion. You gotta gotta give a guy. You gotta

1247
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: let the guy cock out and do that, all right,

1248
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 3: rock out with your cock out, but uh, dix out

1249
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: for her. I think ultimately John's just like, pay me

1250
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: the respect for taking this risk, right, pay me it.

1251
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: Let's yeah, fine, he again, if his argument is you

1252
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: got to come up off your pockets to get me

1253
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: to do this, let's go. I don't have any issue

1254
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: with that. Any any A side deserves to do that.

1255
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna say, if what's really been happening

1256
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: is he's been killing time and picking an opponent who

1257
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: is I mean, as done in MMA as you possibly

1258
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: can be short of an announced retirement. Also, he could

1259
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: avoid this fucking jugger not from the UK. It's shameful.

1260
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: There's nothing shameful about his light heavyweight run, which was

1261
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

1262
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 3: You know, youn't have to read that again.

1263
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: It's right, But but this would be shameful.

1264
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: This would be I mean, it would be for Canilo too,

1265
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 3: But that's another story. Let's see what it goes. Topic

1266
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 3: number three, Luken, we could be getting Brian Ortega in

1267
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 3: here any second.

1268
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: So on the cop that we don't know.

1269
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 3: What a weekend for Patty Pilblet. What a fight, what

1270
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: a moment. Pimblet makes a huge statement in putting King

1271
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: Green to sleep for his eighth straight win overall, and

1272
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 3: Pimblet now six and zero in the UFC and then

1273
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: hold out Hi not O Moikano. So Luke Thomas considering

1274
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: Pimblet is trying to push the UFC for tough coaching

1275
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 3: gigs across from Moykano. Did this feel like the type

1276
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 3: of performance that could launch Patty to not only superstardom,

1277
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: but true contention in this division. I'm not saying he's

1278
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: here after this, but is this the fight that could

1279
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: launch him there? Is this exactly what he freaking needed

1280
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 3: on Saturday?

1281
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I have been not a believer in

1282
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: him up to this point. I still will get to

1283
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: this in a minute. I still have many reservations. But

1284
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: but this was a phenomenal performance by Patty. Looked chiseled

1285
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: out of stone, which was incredible by itself. No guy

1286
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: know either from what Nope, he was carved up his

1287
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: back was ridiculous. So he was clearly in phenomenal condition.

1288
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: And he was smooth on the feet. I mean, he

1289
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: wasn't exactly like you know, showing you prime Georgio Patrosio Petrosian,

1290
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: but he looked smooth on the feet. And then the

1291
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: ability and the and the presence of mind to jump

1292
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: triangle off the guillotine was fantastic.

1293
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: I mean, not great work from King Green in that moment.

1294
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: So I went back and I watched it. It wasn't

1295
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: great work, but I kind of understand what he was doing.

1296
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: He went he he got leg kicked, and I took

1297
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: him off of his feet, and he just reached for

1298
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: the single instinctively and then kind of I think was

1299
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: using it to build his base back up. But like

1300
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: tying up with Patty like that obviously was a very

1301
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: very bad idea ultimately, but that's a common thing that

1302
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: fighters sometimes do to rebuild, getting their height to getting

1303
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: back to a better position. So like, yes, it was

1304
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: a big mistake. But people being like, oh, he went

1305
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: out there Randy Couture style to go take him down. No,

1306
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: that's not exactly what he was doing. That would have

1307
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: been really boneheaded. He didn't do that. So it was

1308
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: very suboptimal. We can clearly say that, But it wasn't

1309
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: the most, oh my god, egregious thing I've ever seen

1310
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: in my life. It doesn't matter, though. Fighters who are

1311
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: great make you make mistakes. Fighters who are good can

1312
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: take advantage of them. You're asking, can he be great?

1313
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: I am still skeptical of that, But Patty's fucking good.

1314
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: These good perform in the location, in the location on

1315
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: the card, everything just was perfect.

1316
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: He played to the crowd. He went out there with

1317
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: full confidence and dude, not a lot of guys can

1318
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: jump guard very effectively, and mmate Charles Aldaveric can do

1319
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: it does a little bit differently to jump guillotine like this,

1320
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: and to do it with really a triangle set up. Ultimately,

1321
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: it's very impressive, dude. It's athletic, presence of mind is

1322
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: quick and obviously he had exactly the setup that he

1323
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: needed to execute. This was the best I've ever seen Patty.

1324
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 3: He raised his game to another level.

1325
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: He certainly has earned the right to fight the Moikanos

1326
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: of the world. Now. I am still skeptical that he

1327
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: can really put together a true contendership run, but.

1328
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: But this was the step that he needed.

1329
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: He earned this time in travel.

1330
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: In fact, he was just as shocked as we were

1331
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: that old King Green went for that shot. Let's hear

1332
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: his reaction.

1333
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 13: I know you challenged him to take the fight to

1334
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 13: the ground, but like we're you surprised that he shot

1335
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 13: in that soon.

1336
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was surprised he shots in. It's all you

1337
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 14: know what I mean, He's had He's had some brilliant

1338
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 14: stand up fights with people on like he the Jim

1339
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 14: Miller fight. He stood with Jal and he's done three

1340
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,479
Speaker 14: rounds with Physiev and won the last round. People kept

1341
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 14: talking about that on the build up to this, so yehead,

1342
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 14: I was surprised bo as I say, everyone underestimates me,

1343
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 14: not just because it looked like a fourteen year old Gale.

1344
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 3: Oh Man Luke in the court of public.

1345
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: It was a good bit. Did he did he use

1346
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: his entire shine big time?

1347
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 3: Do you think he won back the critics because whether

1348
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: I mean, look that aerial thing, it started to like

1349
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: kind of label him as a villain to some degree.

1350
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: You're always going to be a villain when you're the flash.

1351
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: He had the issue with the other Irish kid on

1352
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: the bus, did you see that?

1353
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: And he also he'll do with the jerk off notion. Look,

1354
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: he's still going to be a punk in a lot

1355
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: of ways, but it seems like a more wholesome, focused

1356
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 3: version of him.

1357
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: If that nothing solves problems and MMA like winning, and

1358
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: nothing solves problems in MMA like dominant, exciting winning, and

1359
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: he did that in spades. I mean, dude, this was

1360
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: such a strong performance from him. It's the kind of

1361
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: thing where like this is where I'm at did I

1362
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: see someone in there who can win a UFC lightweight title?

1363
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: What's a tough division to win a lightweight a title?

1364
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: And that's just really really difficult. But did I see

1365
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: a guy who is clearly still getting better? Very athletic again,

1366
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: chiseled out of.

1367
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: Still a guy who can sell out arenas in the main.

1368
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: As is calm in front of an audience. And this

1369
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 1: is what I mean, Like, that wasn't a panicked guillotine, like,

1370
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh I see it, I'm just gonna jump on it,

1371
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: and it's low percentage. It was smooth with his shit

1372
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: the way he sat down.

1373
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 3: But he needed to go through hell in training camp

1374
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 3: mentally to be able to get through whatever he needed

1375
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: you to come to.

1376
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: These guys hate these guys sometimes. Peter fighters often seem

1377
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: to hate the negativity that comes with the sport, and

1378
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 1: it can beat them down and really negatively affect them,

1379
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: but it can also make them very, very resolute in

1380
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: getting to the next stage of the career. Boloh Mohammed

1381
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: is dude blah Mohammed up until the moment he got

1382
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: his hand raised, and even after he guy's hand raised,

1383
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: the guy is still getting booed, but he knew he

1384
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: was driven, and I think the negativity in part helped

1385
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: fuel him to that place. Patty's a little bit more

1386
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: of a showman and it was more liked. But I'm

1387
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: simply saying that he has his share of critics and

1388
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I think it fuels him.

1389
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: Paddy could get me to watch Tough again. He could,

1390
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 3: this could be his vehicle to rebrand. In fact, here's

1391
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 3: his thoughts on the Moikano opportunity. Potentially.

1392
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, he's obviously ranked a boot me as well, but

1393
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 14: the factor I think the builder would be hlarious. I've

1394
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 14: already said it's a night to think a season of

1395
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 14: The Ultimate Fighter of Me and then as the coaches

1396
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 14: would be absolutely fu comedy gold.

1397
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's wrong, Luke. That's the right fighter

1398
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 3: at the right time to get him into the rankings

1399
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: deeper if he can win it. We don't know if

1400
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 3: he's going to win that. That's tough out. You know,

1401
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 3: Mokna's going to go for it. He's kind of like

1402
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 3: the perfect the perfect foil. Let's do it, let's book it.

1403
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm in well, wi Kano has to beat BSD for sure,

1404
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: for sure, and then.

1405
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: You can I don't know you probably can't do that

1406
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 3: if it gets demolished by BA.

1407
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: But here's part about BSD. Unless you get him out

1408
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: of the quicker or quickly, dude, you're like you're going

1409
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: to come out of that fight fucked up.

1410
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, Long Island. Look, any update on the

1411
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: arrival of my favorite fighter.

1412
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 5: We got a few people here, just not our favorite

1413
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 5: fighter yet.

1414
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 3: Hopefully we'll be dropping by soon. Look, you want to

1415
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: transition to topic.

1416
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do a topic number four if we can

1417
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: here on Morning Combat on this July twenty ninth. All right, BC,

1418
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: let's get to question number four. So this is kind

1419
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: of a big one and an interesting one and a

1420
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: very controversial one. A lot of opinions in different directions,

1421
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: but no one seems to be well, it's not quite true. Actually,

1422
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: some people are very unhappy about it. All right, So

1423
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 1: Mohammed Makayev, he improved to thirteen and oh seven and

1424
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: oh the UFC undefeated all the way around, and he

1425
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: defeated him Neel Cop, who by the way, did have

1426
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: a broken toe. It appeared maybe a couple of them

1427
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: in a grudge match, which.

1428
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: Is co shit to put that back in and just

1429
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: keep fighting.

1430
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've dislocated a toe before. It was no fun.

1431
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: I've never broken it, but I dislocated when it sucked.

1432
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: But the fight itself was not great. It was not

1433
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. It got better as it went along,

1434
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: but it certainly started off.

1435
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 3: I had some rabid moments I thought that were pretty cool.

1436
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: It did, but like, the first round was terrible. You know,

1437
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: it was just really really not great. And then he

1438
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: is released afterwards by UFC CEO Dana White. In the

1439
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: post fight press conference, he alluded to in that post

1440
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: fight press conference that the matchmakers were not a fan

1441
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: of Makaya. Have that audio, So I want to set

1442
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: this up and I want to pay attention to something.

1443
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: He doesn't just talk about the style in which Makaya fights.

1444
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: He talks about some other issues as well. Let's hear it.

1445
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: That's you Long Island Luke anytime.

1446
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: Buddy Makayev.

1447
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 5: Please sorry, guys, getting Brian set up? I missed whatever?

1448
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: Hey, can you play the Makaia clip from Dana of course?

1449
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 1: Once say why not?

1450
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: Bryan o'tego coming in there?

1451
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: All right?

1452
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 13: All right, let's just do they try to give you

1453
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 13: a new contract before this fight.

1454
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 8: They said they're gonna see how I performed. They don't

1455
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 8: want to see me keep shooting and taking somebody down.

1456
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 8: But I've done what I could do with Like tonight, they.

1457
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 13: Said they didn't like you shooting in there is what

1458
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 13: they said they don't.

1459
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 8: They don't like this because they tried to get rid

1460
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 8: of flyways before and they don't want these kind of fights.

1461
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 8: But listen, I'm young. I'm still not in my prime.

1462
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 8: Like if they want me to stand and bunk and

1463
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 8: bank with to this like thirty years old, grown months,

1464
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 8: I have to do what best for me to win.

1465
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: You See, here's a question for yah, was the UFC

1466
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: justified and cutting them?

1467
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 3: I wanted my answer to be no, because this guy's

1468
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 3: got talent and I wouldn't even throw any kind of

1469
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 3: boring thing at him. Look, he wins fights. You can

1470
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 3: see the skill there that the proof is in the pudding. Well,

1471
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 3: if if the UFC was this adamant what seems to

1472
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 3: mostly be not a contract situation issue a character issue, Luke,

1473
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: it seems like you have to do a lot to

1474
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: get on the wrong side of the UFC where they'll

1475
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 3: actually step in and discipline. This screams to me that

1476
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 3: they have more than enough reasons, and Luke, we don't

1477
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 3: have the sound at this moment. But you know, MALKAIV

1478
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 3: was asked about that picture situation. Did he set up

1479
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 3: mail cop by asking for a picture and brotherhood? And

1480
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 3: then he admitted it and he said, look, I'm no,

1481
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: Alex Perez, I'm no. You know, he tried to basically say,

1482
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to back it up. You guys don't know

1483
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: where I'm from. Luke, every at every turn, there's trouble

1484
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 3: with this guy. So if it's more than just will

1485
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: bury you, which we thought, is this is a conspiracy angle,

1486
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 3: why is this fight continually getting buried? I don't think

1487
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 3: it really does come down to the fact that you

1488
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 3: actually could put him in a title shot. Is that

1489
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 3: he looks that accomplished, he looks that ready to go.

1490
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: But Luke, if character is this bad, then more power

1491
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: to the company for establishing standards and sticking by them.

1492
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 3: I think ultimately he's going to need maturity. So they

1493
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 3: did make the right move, Luke in that regard. I mean,

1494
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: do you want to hear danias st that's what he said.

1495
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 13: I have said that his contract is up and he

1496
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 13: made this interesting remark that said someone in the UFC

1497
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 13: told him to stop shooting for these takedowns so much,

1498
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 13: and maybe he'll get this contract that he wants.

1499
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: Is that true? And what what do you think she'll

1500
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: bring him back?

1501
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what we tell guys. We tell guys how

1502
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 6: to fight and tell him what We've been doing this

1503
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 6: for for a long time. I'm sure one of the

1504
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 6: matchmakers probably said something to him or whatever. But yeah,

1505
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,360
Speaker 6: the matchmakers aren't big fans for many different reasons, and

1506
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 6: not just take There's a lot of people who shoot

1507
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 6: takedowns in this in this business, you know a lot

1508
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 6: of guys that fight with that type of style. But

1509
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 6: it's it's a lot more than just that.

1510
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 13: But Macaive is the guy that he'd want to bring

1511
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 13: back to the UFC because he said his contract is

1512
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:44,919
Speaker 13: totally done.

1513
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 6: Now, yeah he is, he's under contract. He's not, he's

1514
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 6: not under contract anymore.

1515
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 13: Okay, but would you be interested in, you know, keeping

1516
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 13: him around in the floor.

1517
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 6: I think the PFL is going to get a great

1518
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 6: undefeated guy. Good luck to him.

1519
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 13: That's went on this. When you said the PFL is

1520
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 13: going to get undefeated fighters. His fighting style is that

1521
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 13: he's asking for too much money.

1522
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: What is why?

1523
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 6: None of the none of the above. It's it's a

1524
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 6: listen for whatever reasons. The stuff that played out here

1525
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 6: over the last several months that started at the PI

1526
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 6: and other stories of you know this breaking out, plus

1527
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 6: many other things. These guys, Uh, these guys don't want

1528
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 6: to resign them.

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01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 3: Look, he doesn't appear to give a fuck Makayev. So

1530
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 3: I think they actually made the right move.

1531
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: I'll say this, Mokaiah admitting to sucker punching the guy

1532
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: is such a fucking weird move. Like it's such a turnoff,

1533
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: such a turnoff, Like it's one thing to be like,

1534
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 1: I admit it, and then you know, I made a

1535
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: mistake and I apologized to his team and it was

1536
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: low and I was angry and frustrated, and they he

1537
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: got the best of me. That's not what he did.

1538
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, I did it, and I'm glad

1539
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: I did it. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing?

1540
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: I got a couple of thoughts about this. I'm not

1541
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: in any way suggesting that what Dana is saying about

1542
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: Makaiav being a problem is not true. But we don't

1543
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 1: know what the behind the scenes. Issues might be in

1544
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 1: terms of like, maybe he doesn't want more money, they

1545
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: don't want to give it to him, and maybe he

1546
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: does turn down fights and they don't want them to

1547
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 1: do that. Maybe maybe he's a complete pain in the ass,

1548
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 1: and they're right. I'm pointing out I don't have I

1549
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: can't take his word or the UFC's word without more information,

1550
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: so I put that to the side. I will say this.

1551
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, well, now you know

1552
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: you got a guy whos undefeated, why are you letting

1553
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: him go? I actually think it's gonna be better from Mokaiev.

1554
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: Makaiev is he was right, he's twenty three years old.

1555
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: You want us to stand and bang with these guys?

1556
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: You know I'm twenty three, Like, what the fuck do

1557
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: you want me to do? I mentioned this on Friday show.

1558
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring this up again one more time.

1559
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,879
Speaker 1: Mohammed Makaiev. By the way, the nickname is the punisher

1560
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem that fitting. Strikes landed per minute one

1561
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: point six y one dude, that's about half of what

1562
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: it is for an average ranked UFC fighter. Yeah, right,

1563
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 1: these are anemic numbers, and I understand he's winning and

1564
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: I get that, and maybe he could go pretty far

1565
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 1: with that, but I do think he's going to hit

1566
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: an absolute ceiling in this division when your basic method

1567
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: of winning is just control, Right, because the takedown's what

1568
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: is the average five point two nine per fifteen minutes.

1569
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 1: That's a lot, right, He's averaging several downs per round.

1570
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: That's significant. But the point I'm trying to make is

1571
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: his game is clearly still in development.

1572
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 3: Well also he needs.

1573
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: My point is let's dial back the competition. Can he

1574
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: beat them with control? Maybe maybe?

1575
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 3: Well, look, there'll have do charity issues here he's got,

1576
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 3: so he may need this more than anything, just to humble.

1577
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: But I just mean on this game alone, people be like,

1578
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: well he's winning, you know, you're not gonna find out

1579
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: who the best is. Okay, there's something to that. That's

1580
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: not an unfair accusation. But the thing that I want

1581
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: to point out is if you're so lopsided in your

1582
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: game and you're just twenty three and you're a good athlete,

1583
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: I actually do feel like dialing back the competition to

1584
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: get him the incremental striking development that he needs. And

1585
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: by the way, he did show some better striking year,

1586
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,600
Speaker 1: but it's all on the outside, like he clearly is

1587
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 1: afraid of contact. Still, let's get him that experience.

1588
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,480
Speaker 3: Like he could not have done more to hurt his chances.

1589
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 3: It's not just that he didn't resign and that they

1590
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: had a standoff on seemingly on the price. I think

1591
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 3: that was probably part of it. But then when you're

1592
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 3: going to essentially act like a dirt bag admit afterwards

1593
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 3: that you completely set up and manipulated this situation and

1594
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: did sort of a dirtbag move. But then you're so

1595
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: rabid at every turn at the way and you run

1596
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: out and try to fight them at the to start

1597
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 3: the fight, we actually had security guards holding back both

1598
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 3: fighters from fighting seconds before they were going to be

1599
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 3: allowed to fight. Like you're holding back piples. What's the

1600
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: worst thing you can do in that situation? Then go

1601
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: out and point fight and wrestle. Obviously that's the worst

1602
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: case you should do. You just built up to everybody

1603
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 3: that this fight is going to be a war, like

1604
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 3: you just sold that, and then you did the opposite.

1605
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 3: I just think he lined up enough reasons one by

1606
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 3: one for them to basically say not worth the risk.

1607
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: Move on, And I'm just pointing out. You can be

1608
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 1: mad if you want at the UFC for cutting him

1609
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: because you feel like you're trying to send a message

1610
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: about what kind of style that they prefer. All right,

1611
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: if you want to make that argument, I won't really

1612
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: argue against it. The point I'm making is a little

1613
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: bit different, which is, however punitive you feel like the

1614
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: UFC was and potentially inappropriate it and being punitive about

1615
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: cutting him, which is debatable by itself. But even if

1616
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: even if you believe that, I actually think it will

1617
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 1: be in the long term better for his development. If

1618
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: he keeps escalating BC, well just think about just think

1619
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 1: about it. Rationally, you're still working on the other parts

1620
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: of your game, but now you have to go up

1621
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: and get the Pantojas of the world, and god, will

1622
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, the guys who are fucking terminators at the

1623
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: top of flyweight. You're gonna win some rounds against them

1624
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: because of your control which are probably also gonna get

1625
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: fucked up against one of those guys. It's going to

1626
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: hurt your development. I actually think long term it'll be

1627
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: better for him. Maybe he comes back to the organization,

1628
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't, but long term, this will be better

1629
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 1: for his game, or at least there's a world in

1630
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: which we can take seriously the idea this is better

1631
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: for his game.

1632
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just no division for Flyway tot PFL at

1633
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 3: the moment. So that just really made that.

1634
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 1: Someone said forget someone said on Twitter forget who it was.

1635
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: They're like, can we make a switch for a trade

1636
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 1: Lokaya for PATCHI Mix.

1637
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,600
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, hell yeah, we can go to

1638
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 3: footage though of Mokaya have also a cheater in the cage, Luke.

1639
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: Here is the big scandal with holding the tights and

1640
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 3: Mike Beltrum got pissed off.

1641
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 15: The short.

1642
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 7: Time time.

1643
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 3: Time got all right time.

1644
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: But now I'm gonna fix this.

1645
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 3: He's telling him to He'll be probular shorts. You understand.

1646
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: Oh look at that grab the shorts. I'm gonna take

1647
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 3: away your position.

1648
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:26,440
Speaker 6: I'm not playing with you.

1649
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,800
Speaker 3: You're gonna stand right here.

1650
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 6: I'm talking to you.

1651
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 3: Don't put yourself in a position that I have to

1652
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 3: enforce the rules.

1653
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: You understand. I'm gonna take away your position.

1654
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 3: That's your last morning. Fix your stuff, young man. St

1655
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 3: he got more than a handful of belt all that

1656
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 3: hooters right, Oh my god, And it looked as though

1657
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: maybe it's an alcohol. God, look at the day.

1658
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 15: That's the point.

1659
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: That is a point, Dude, breaking the rules in m

1660
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: M A is completely legal. There actually are no rules.

1661
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can get.

1662
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: Multiple comment on this because I saw people being like, well,

1663
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 1: he took he took the position away. That was that

1664
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: was Mike en forcing the rules. Listen. I like him,

1665
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,680
Speaker 1: Mike Beultron. I actually do think he's a really good referee.

1666
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: And he did. He did take away the position. Good,

1667
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: that's fine. I don't know if what I don't know

1668
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: if what cop was doing with something called keguart or not,

1669
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: but it looked at me either way he was trying

1670
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: to pass the leg over. So Molkaiah is pulling on

1671
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: the shorts to tip his weight back the other way

1672
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: to keep the position. Dude, that is just as bad,

1673
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 1: if not worse, as double hand grabbing the fence to

1674
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: avoid a takedown.

1675
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 3: Take a point like Rick Flair rolling up Dusty at

1676
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 3: the Mid Mid South Coliseum there and grabbing a handful

1677
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 3: of Hey, look.

1678
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: Our guest is ready, all right, why don't you go first?

1679
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 3: Hey, let's do it. Let's welcome and in look. I mean,

1680
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 3: you know it's not often that you can get the

1681
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 3: most exciting fighter in the world to show up on

1682
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: your show. But Brian Ortega is here and he's going

1683
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: to appear soon September fourteenth on pay per view Las Vegas.

1684
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 3: In the sphere what Dana White is calling the biggest

1685
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: and most exciting and craziest pay per view in combat

1686
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: sports history against Diego Lopez. Let's bring him in, the

1687
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 3: former title contender who came oh so close to squeezing

1688
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 3: the life out of Alexander Volkanovski Long Island. Look do

1689
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 3: we have Brian Ortega there?

1690
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 14: He is.

1691
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look at this gentleman right here.

1692
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: It is tea up.

1693
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: Guys in the house. Uh, Brian Ortega, It's it's a

1694
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,879
Speaker 3: rocky road at times, or it has been in your career, layoffs, injuries.

1695
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: We saw you fall out of this fight with Diego Lopez,

1696
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: but then get the sphear it's kind of par for

1697
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 3: the course and the Brian Ortega experience maybe have a

1698
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 3: little setback, but this bright thing coming right around the corner.

1699
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 3: You got to be fired up for September fourteenth.

1700
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, man, it's uh, it's something that you know

1701
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 15: if obviously for UFC three or three we didn't. Yeah,

1702
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 15: we didn't make it, man, and it was it sucked,

1703
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 15: and it was something that kind of dawned on me

1704
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 15: for a while actually, and then we got a phone

1705
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 15: call and we had the you know, the opportunity and

1706
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 15: the ability to fix it and make it right.

1707
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 16: And that's what we're doing, especially.

1708
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 15: On a bigger venue than not a bigger venue, but

1709
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 15: a more exciting venue with with everything new with the sphere,

1710
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 15: you know, it's pretty dope.

1711
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: Do you have any reservations, Brian, We talked about this

1712
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 3: earlier in the show today. We have no idea for

1713
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 3: the fighter. What the sphere is going to mean, what

1714
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna Is it going to be distracting? Is it

1715
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 3: gonna be awesome? What are your expectations from a fighter

1716
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 3: in agreeing to fight a very difficult fighter against against

1717
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: a fighter I'm sure you respect who brings action, knowing

1718
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 3: that there's gonna You're in the middle of a stadium,

1719
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 3: the video screen is yeah, I mean, this is a

1720
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,520
Speaker 3: crazy atmosphere in there. It's wild.

1721
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 15: It's so So we did some filming, right I went

1722
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 15: to Vegas and we did some filming for it, and

1723
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 15: they put some VR gogles on us, and we were

1724
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 15: able to see what the arena would look like on

1725
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 15: the inside.

1726
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 10: And it's crazy.

1727
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 15: It's crazy like the like I can't say too much

1728
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 15: like because I'm not allowed to, but yeah, it's gonna

1729
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 15: be something where I for sure have to stay locked

1730
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 15: in and tuned, like I have to stay focused, man,

1731
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 15: because if you start paying attention at like what's gonna

1732
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 15: go on when the fight happens, Uh, I'll for sure

1733
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 15: be distracted and not probably will, but probably it's gonna

1734
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 15: be for a good cause. Anyways, once I get a

1735
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 15: punched in the faces, I'm going to come back to

1736
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 15: reality anyways.

1737
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: Brian, good to talk to you, Good to see you.

1738
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: Glad to see you're feeling better. I know you released

1739
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 1: a statement about what happened with the Diego Lopez fight,

1740
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,240
Speaker 1: but you had mentioned that, like you had a fever

1741
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: and you thought it was from the weight cut and

1742
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: you had been feeling bad that whole fight week. Looking

1743
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: back on it now, are you was it just the

1744
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: weight cut? Were you sick on top of the weight cut?

1745
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: What exactly went wrong? The week of UFC was a

1746
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: three zero three I can remember again three?

1747
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was both man, That's what I was trying

1748
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 15: to figure out. I was confused because walking into the

1749
01:17:54,320 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 15: fight the fight week, yeah, I felt I don't know

1750
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 15: if I could kind of really put it in there.

1751
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 16: I was on a little pilot. Basically. I was in

1752
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 16: there and I don't remember much.

1753
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 15: If I'm being honest, and something fell off, but I

1754
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 15: thought it was because I thought it was a lack

1755
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 15: of food and the weight cut that I was going through,

1756
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,839
Speaker 15: because I went from one seventy eight to one sixty

1757
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 15: in a matter of like a week and a half,

1758
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 15: so I went through like eighteen pounds pretty quick, and

1759
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 15: then cutting the weight. The rest of it was something

1760
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 15: that we face after and uh yeah, my body gave

1761
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 15: out at one.

1762
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 16: Fifty one, but I still had some sweating, but I

1763
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 16: don't know. It was just hard.

1764
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 15: We stayed up till maybe four four thirty in the

1765
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 15: morning trying to cut the rest of it. Couldn't, man,

1766
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 15: We had to pull the plug on it. We agreed

1767
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 15: to fight one fifty five, which I kind of drank

1768
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 15: some water and some electrolytes kind of just feel better.

1769
01:18:56,439 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 16: And then come yeah, come fight day, dude.

1770
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 15: Oh actually no, that night, after I ate food and everything,

1771
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 15: I was good.

1772
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 16: I felt the normal feelings of what a fight is.

1773
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 15: Right, you go in there a training camp that wait,

1774
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 15: you come back, you eat food, right, you rehydrate again,

1775
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 15: and then you start coming back to life. And I

1776
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 15: never got that feeling. I didn't come back to life.

1777
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,240
Speaker 15: I figured maybe just the way coat was too drastic

1778
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 15: from you know, on seventy eight to one fifty five

1779
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 15: or attempted forty five, and.

1780
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 16: It just didn't go in my favor.

1781
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 15: So I figured that I would feel good the day

1782
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 15: of the fight, but I didn't. All night, I was

1783
01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 15: in cold sweats, I was sweating, I took my clothes off.

1784
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 15: I was basically just in the hotel full full ACA

1785
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 15: cranking and I don't know why, but I can stop sweating.

1786
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 15: I didn't put two and two together that it was

1787
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 15: a fever.

1788
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 16: I just I don't know. I was just confused what

1789
01:19:59,600 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 16: was going on.

1790
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 15: And then uh yeah, we took the temperature everything and

1791
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 15: then had a fever, gotten some cold water to try

1792
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 15: to just bring it back down.

1793
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 16: We brought it back down a little bit, but it

1794
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,680
Speaker 16: was probably.

1795
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,600
Speaker 15: Five or six in the morning, and then I have

1796
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 15: to fight that day, so I fell back asleep. I

1797
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 15: think I woke up maybe around one, tried to eat

1798
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:29,799
Speaker 15: some food, wasn't hungry.

1799
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 16: I was just out of it. I don't know how

1800
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 16: to say it other than just yeah, just out of it.

1801
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 16: And I called I called my manager. I said, hey, man,

1802
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 16: don't feel too good.

1803
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 15: So we drank some coffee, We had a B twelve

1804
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 15: shot for energy, tried forcing some food down, and brought

1805
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 15: with a natural cold brew, a BEAT twelve shot and

1806
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 15: some food. I still felt the same. And that's kind

1807
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 15: of when I realized something's wrong. This is not a

1808
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 15: normal feeling that you get on fight day. I tried

1809
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 15: to walk around the wall the room a little bit

1810
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 15: and it just wasn't it.

1811
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 16: I told my manager. Then I called him.

1812
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 15: I said, hey, dude, like, I'm not trying to be

1813
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 15: a you know what, but if I step in there tonight,

1814
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 15: I'm gonna lose. I just don't. I don't feel good.

1815
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 15: I don't feel right. My everything just got sucked out

1816
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 15: of me. I called the UFC. We had a conversation.

1817
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 15: I said, listen, and I'm not I'm just telling you

1818
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 15: guys where I'm at and what I'm thinking. But I'll

1819
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 15: go in there and I'll give it a shot. And

1820
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 15: I'm at the point where I'll just probably put my

1821
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 15: back against the cage and just let them tee off

1822
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 15: on me and we'll just get down like that because

1823
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 15: I don't really have it in me to go and

1824
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 15: have a war, not right now. And surprisingly enough, they

1825
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 15: agreed with me, and they said, let's see what we

1826
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 15: can make happen. And that's when they called and they

1827
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,839
Speaker 15: made a Danny Geft fight happen with Diego Lopez.

1828
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,879
Speaker 16: But yeah, it was. It was an intense two weeks.

1829
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,759
Speaker 1: Sounds sounds terrible. So let me just ask this. Obviously,

1830
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: you've never had issues like this before. Is this in

1831
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 1: any way change how you might cut weight for three

1832
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: oh six or are still going to do exactly what

1833
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: you did before, but now that since you have more time,

1834
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: it won't be the same kind of issue.

1835
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:19,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1836
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 15: Well, I think a lot of people don't realize, and

1837
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 15: I didn't even realize myself was one. I was bulking

1838
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 15: to one fifty five, so I don't usually walk around

1839
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 15: that heavy. I stayed within you know, one sixty eight

1840
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 15: to one seventy's that's a comfortable wait for me. I

1841
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 15: was bulking to get one fifty five, so my goal

1842
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 15: was to hit one eighty one. Eighty five and be solid.

1843
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 15: I got to one one seventy eight. You know, I

1844
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 15: was close to eighty.

1845
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,600
Speaker 16: So when that I got that phone call, it was

1846
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 16: a shock.

1847
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 15: Because I'm like, yeah, I am. I do feel good,

1848
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 15: I am in shape, I am ready, but I am heavy.

1849
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,960
Speaker 15: And the last time I took a short notice fight

1850
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 15: and not I wasn't that heavy, but I was still

1851
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 15: pretty heavy was when I fought Frankie Edge around two weeks.

1852
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 15: So I figured, Okay, it's possible, it's doable. I've been

1853
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 15: here before. But yeah, man, I think those two factors

1854
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 15: played into it, to having two weeks and cutting a

1855
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 15: lot of weight. But now that I have time, it

1856
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 15: should be good.

1857
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 16: We should be all right.

1858
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 15: And right now as we speak, I'm exactly at one

1859
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 15: seventy I'm in shape, I'm ready. I'm actually we'reing won

1860
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 15: the restling match right now, and uh after this, we're

1861
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 15: going get We're gonna get to work, Brian, when.

1862
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 3: We're talking about the stakes in this fight. September fourteenth,

1863
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 3: Inside the Sphere and Diego Lopez, You've been a perennial contender,

1864
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 3: two time title challenger. You always seem to be one

1865
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 3: win away from a title shot. Is it as simple

1866
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 3: as that in terms of what you're looking at, what's

1867
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 3: at stake for you against this opponent this date UFC

1868
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 3: three zero six.

1869
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 15: I'm not too sure, man, If I'm being honest, I

1870
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 15: don't know how how this one's going to play out.

1871
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 15: I know Diego has a lot of hyphe I know

1872
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,600
Speaker 15: he's got, you know, a good amount of support. So

1873
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 15: that's good on on on selling the fight and everything.

1874
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 15: But if you're talking about me beating someone who gives

1875
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 15: me a fight, I think me beating him would just

1876
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 15: say I'd beat a contender who people thought might be

1877
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 15: in the potential conversation to fight for the title. But

1878
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 15: you know who knows, man, The rankings in the way

1879
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 15: the UFC is sometimes it's it's kind of funny. So, uh,

1880
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 15: I just don't know, man, Because I said, like like

1881
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 15: I said in previous interviews, even of leading up to

1882
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 15: the fight on UFC three or three, you have Volk

1883
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 15: and Max both guaranteed the title fight, so that I'm

1884
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 15: kind of in line and I'm in a weird situation,

1885
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 15: which is why I was talking about moving up to

1886
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 15: one fifty five and having some fun up there while

1887
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 15: the dust settles at featherweight.

1888
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,640
Speaker 3: Speaking of that dust settling to you, guys that you

1889
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 3: fought for world titles or sorry, in that matchup, one

1890
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 3: of them would be Max Holloway. If he gets the

1891
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 3: next shot at Iliot Taporia atop this division could be

1892
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 3: one of the biggest fights to make in this sport.

1893
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,839
Speaker 3: How do you see that fight playing out? To Poria

1894
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,799
Speaker 3: coming through the breakthrough knockout of Alexander Volkanowski. He seems

1895
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: to be the right guy at the right moment, the

1896
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 3: right country behind him, but Max has not gone away.

1897
01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 15: That's gonna be an interesting fight. I think I was

1898
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 15: talking to someone about it yesterday. I forgot who, but

1899
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 15: I was talking about how how fundamentally skilled and sharp in.

1900
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 16: Kind of in wrestling, in jiu jitsu and in boxing.

1901
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 16: To Poitia is.

1902
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 15: You know, sometimes when someone wins with a knockout, you know,

1903
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 15: you're quick to write it off and say, oh, well,

1904
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 15: you know volk I knocked out by Islam or whatever

1905
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 15: that happened and he wasn't ready, And that could be

1906
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 15: the case. But I also do believe that to Poitia

1907
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 15: does possess a handful of skills I think are yet

1908
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 15: to be tested. Max, on the other hand is someone

1909
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 15: that has hasn't been put away at all in his

1910
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 15: entire career. So this is this is a great fight.

1911
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 15: This if anything, I'm as a fan of the sport.

1912
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,240
Speaker 15: I can't wait to see that fight because obviously, one

1913
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 15: I fought Max, and two I want to fight to

1914
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 15: Poitia if he's still the Channel, if he's still the.

1915
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 16: Belt old award, you know, even in the future. But

1916
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:26,920
Speaker 16: it's good.

1917
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 15: For guys like me to go in there and see

1918
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 15: them and kind of collect data on what they bring

1919
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 15: to the table other than you know, that amazing performance.

1920
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 16: Ay yet against Volkowski.

1921
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 3: Speaking of performances against Volkanowski, I wonder this as a

1922
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 3: fan of yours, Brian, because you've got to be a

1923
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 3: competitor to succeed at the level that you are. So

1924
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 3: when you look back against Volkanowski, how close you came

1925
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 3: to tipping the entire division upside down and submitting a

1926
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 3: guy who was, you know, universally the best in the

1927
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 3: world at that moment, does the competitor and you celebrate

1928
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 3: that performance and how close you were, or does it

1929
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 3: eat at you that, you know, one more second, one

1930
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 3: more something you could have come away on top that night.

1931
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 16: It eats away.

1932
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 15: I mean, man, and it's something that I've had to

1933
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 15: learn to make peace with. If anything, every time I

1934
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 15: see a fan or something, they're like, dude, you were

1935
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 15: so close, and I'm like.

1936
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 16: Thanks, Like thanks fucker.

1937
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks.

1938
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 15: Sorry, I don't but it's like, damn, bro, why rub

1939
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 15: him up face?

1940
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Uh?

1941
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,520
Speaker 1: Did you hear him gurgling.

1942
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:37,600
Speaker 6: When you do it?

1943
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 16: Yeah? Bro, he was gurgling.

1944
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 15: He was squealing, and uh, this is something that yeah,

1945
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 15: I'm not gonna lie do it. I was on top

1946
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 15: and I was celebrating. I was literally like I'm about

1947
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 15: to be a world champ.

1948
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 16: In my head, I was kind of saying that.

1949
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 15: So then when he got out, I was like, fun

1950
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 15: and then not put him in an a triangle and

1951
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 15: I was like, nope, T City by T City and

1952
01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 15: I'm looking up at the jumbo tron as I have

1953
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 15: this triangle and I'm like, no way, like picture like

1954
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 15: a dream come true that like the Guiarteam wasn't meant

1955
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 15: to happen tcit is gonna win by a triangle and

1956
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,679
Speaker 15: become a world champion. And then he just flopped back

1957
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 15: and my legs uncrossed and I was like, bro, it's

1958
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 15: this not your night, and I was like, your mom

1959
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:29,679
Speaker 15: must be in the arena right now because you're losing, and.

1960
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 1: She was, let's talk about your opponent, Diego Lopez. So

1961
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: just stylistically, one thing that the fans I often hear

1962
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 1: them say is, oh, they've both got great jiu jitsu,

1963
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: which is true, you got different jiu jitsu than him.

1964
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: How would you say your jiu jitsu is distinct from his?

1965
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 15: I would say that my jiu jitsu is more distinct

1966
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 15: or it is distinct from his. I'm not I'm not

1967
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 15: a competitive grappler as in terms of I'm not trying

1968
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 15: to go for a certain situations that are not ideal

1969
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 15: for getting hit in the face, right. I don't roll

1970
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 15: over or try, you know, these certain types of knee

1971
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:12,559
Speaker 15: bars or stuff like that that put you in potential danger.

1972
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 15: What I like to do is is more gracie style fundamentals,

1973
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 15: old school to the roots, where it's like, hey man,

1974
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 15: you got to punch my face and I got to

1975
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 15: go in here and we're going to fight. And it's

1976
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 15: more of a self defense type of jiu jitsu that

1977
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 15: I've adopted and just brought it to a different level

1978
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 15: with guys who are trying to punch you, and they're

1979
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 15: actually more skilled at it than just someone on the street.

1980
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,640
Speaker 15: So through time, I've had the ability to perfect all

1981
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 15: of this and just sharpen it up. You know, I'm

1982
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 15: more of, I would say, more of a sniper, a

1983
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 15: more methodical guy when I'm in there and fighting, versus

1984
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 15: just kind of shoot submissions and impose jiu jitsu will

1985
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,919
Speaker 15: on you during the fighting, I just ignore the punches

1986
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 15: per se.

1987
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 16: And I think that's what we probably differentiate.

1988
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: In watching tape on him, Like, for example, he blew

1989
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,719
Speaker 1: right through to the Yusef when they were in the clinch,

1990
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: and then obviously you can look at the Danny Gay fight,

1991
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: but that was a it was not like a few

1992
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: hours notice. I mean, it's just really hard to know

1993
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: what to make of that in watching tape on him, Like,

1994
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: describe him to me. What do you see about Diego

1995
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: Lopez as a competitor that you observe as important to

1996
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 1: be ready for.

1997
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 15: He's he's dangerous obviously in the first round, he's very explosive.

1998
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 15: If you've noticed the you know, the success he's had

1999
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 15: the majority of this because he had in the UFC

2000
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 15: is through beating these guys in the first round.

2001
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:43,600
Speaker 16: He's very explosive.

2002
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 15: He loves the crashes, loves when two people collide, and

2003
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:54,720
Speaker 15: he likes this dirty boxing style right where he likes

2004
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 15: to clinch upper cuts, hooks. Now, he likes to be

2005
01:30:57,400 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 15: in the pocket and just and just swing away. And

2006
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 15: that's something that you know as a fighter, you pay

2007
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 15: close attention to. And obviously he's a black belt man.

2008
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:06,600
Speaker 16: You know.

2009
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,960
Speaker 15: On the ground, he's he's hunting for submissions the entire time.

2010
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 15: The second you put his back on the ground, or

2011
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 15: before you even put his back on the ground, he's

2012
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 15: hunting for your neck, your arm. He's looking for ways

2013
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 15: to finish you on the ground and on the feet.

2014
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 15: Right he shouting to knock you up.

2015
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,840
Speaker 3: I can't wait for that fight you FC three six

2016
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 3: Inside the Sphere, September fourteenth, on pay per view. I

2017
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: got one more for you on the way out here

2018
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 3: to city there. Oh then then we got two more

2019
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 3: for you. I want to talk about the mindset. What

2020
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 3: I love about your career and watching you fight is

2021
01:31:37,720 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 3: that you wear your emotions on the on your sleeve.

2022
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 3: You're always very honest about your walk and your journey.

2023
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,200
Speaker 3: But you're also one of the mentally toughest fighters I've

2024
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,960
Speaker 3: seen in your ability to zoom to zoom in and

2025
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 3: have that focus when you're talking about eagles and shit, man,

2026
01:31:51,720 --> 01:31:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm getting like five, I'm ready to jump through glass windows. Okay,

2027
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 3: but life offers some challenges. Do you fight better when

2028
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 3: life is chaotic? Do you fight better when life is

2029
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 3: as in harmony as possible? How much does that affect

2030
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,520
Speaker 3: the performances we see out of you inside the cage?

2031
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:12,560
Speaker 15: If I'm being honest with you, bro, like I said,

2032
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 15: uh yeah, wear my heart.

2033
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 16: I sleep, So I'm gonna just shoot shoot it straight.

2034
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 15: I've never had peace in my career, not till recently.

2035
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 15: My career has always been has always been chaoting. My

2036
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 15: life has always been crazy. I've always had things outside

2037
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 15: you know. My personal life has been just.

2038
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 16: You know, a ship show. That's all due to me.

2039
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 16: You know.

2040
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 15: My decisions, the things I like to do that I

2041
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 15: used to like to do or whatever, and the choices

2042
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 15: I decided to make brought a lot of just badness.

2043
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,840
Speaker 15: So I had to deal with a bunch of negativity

2044
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 15: and and and darkness.

2045
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 16: And that's what I used for fuel. Right, Some things

2046
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 16: I had no control of.

2047
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 15: Something some things I did, but recently in my life,

2048
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,719
Speaker 15: I found like you said, I found peace, I found joy,

2049
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 15: I found tranquility.

2050
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 1: I like it.

2051
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 15: I like it a lot much. I like it a

2052
01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 15: lot better actually than than what I used to be doing.

2053
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 15: So yeah, it was the first fight where I've had that,

2054
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 15: and that was the first experience I've had, and Diego

2055
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:29,320
Speaker 15: is gonna be the second.

2056
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 16: So I can't I don't know.

2057
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 15: I don't know, and to me, it's just a question

2058
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,759
Speaker 15: mark and it's a will see. But regardless of the outcome,

2059
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 15: I'm choosing this type of lifestyle every day.

2060
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 3: Man.

2061
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 15: Like my last I love it as a man. I

2062
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 15: love peace and enjoy and that's I'm gonna take it.

2063
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 1: All, right. Last one from me, Brian, really appreciate your time,

2064
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: which is, of course you're gonna be competing at UFC

2065
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: three zero six at the sphere. It's a UFC notche

2066
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: event or no cha UFC, I should say. And then

2067
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 1: of course right across the way down the road basically

2068
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 1: is going to be Canelo Alvarez taking on Edgar Burlanga,

2069
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 1: another sort of celebration of Mexican fight fans of Mexican

2070
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 1: Independence Day. I wonder do you do you think that

2071
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 1: the UFC show at the Sphere, for how unique it is,

2072
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 1: is it going to upstage Canelo or is it one

2073
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 1: of those situations where both of it is celebrating Mexican

2074
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: fight fans. In Mexican culture, a rising tide lifts all boats.

2075
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,040
Speaker 16: Man, you're making me go against the UFC right now, Bro?

2076
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 16: What are you doing to me?

2077
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 15: Bro?

2078
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 1: I'll just ask it. I've just asked it. I actually

2079
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,639
Speaker 1: feel like the UFC Sphere show could really upstage him,

2080
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 1: but I don't know. We'll see how it goes.

2081
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,680
Speaker 16: I think I think obviously like the I don't know.

2082
01:34:43,880 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 15: Man, that's hard, bro, because right now, when you look

2083
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:48,839
Speaker 15: at like Mexican fighters and what they're doing in boxing,

2084
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 15: you know, I don't think you can really beak Onello,

2085
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 15: not in that aspect of it, not in the way

2086
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 15: he sells, in the way he represents Mexico and how

2087
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 15: he carries it.

2088
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 16: If we're speaking only specific towards what Mexico is.

2089
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 15: You know, uh, dude, Canelo was born and raised in Mexico,

2090
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 15: from Mexico, and it has made it happen that that's

2091
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 15: something that you know, Mexican fans and understand and but

2092
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 15: then you got the Sphere, dude, and then you have

2093
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 15: you know, just everything that Dana Whites put into it,

2094
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 15: and the card, the people that are in it. You know,

2095
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 15: it's amazing. So I have no idea, but I'm I'm

2096
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 15: I'm team Canelo on this one, although I'm fighting on

2097
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:34,360
Speaker 15: the Sphere.

2098
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 16: Bro, I'm just I'm just straight. I just.

2099
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 15: I think that boxing has been a big part of

2100
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 15: Mexican culture. And although MMA is catching up, they're not there.

2101
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 15: We're we're not there yet, but we're we're in the conversations.

2102
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 15: See just as like right now, we're in the conversations.

2103
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 15: But if you if you go to Mexico now and

2104
01:35:56,280 --> 01:36:00,280
Speaker 15: talk to any Mexican, I'll tell you Canelo, we don't

2105
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 15: care about UFCRE right now, not if we choose.

2106
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: Are those your kids in the background like they're they're

2107
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: playing John Wick back?

2108
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2109
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:13,759
Speaker 15: Man, Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, o j bro Okay, love Joshua.

2110
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 15: You guys did an interview and then you guys were

2111
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 15: fighting the whole time, and now you got me in trouble.

2112
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 3: This is all. Yeah, that's great.

2113
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: What's up, fellas?

2114
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 3: Yes, guys, what's it like to have the coolest dad?

2115
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 3: In the world. You know, come on, great right, Well they.

2116
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 15: Can't see you, guys, we're not We're not gonna fight

2117
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,599
Speaker 15: your dad trust for us.

2118
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,760
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so great to meet the ortake it was

2119
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 3: Brian or Taga. Thank you for your time. We can't

2120
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 3: wait to see you at three oh six. And you

2121
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 3: got another big moment left in you. I know this

2122
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:55,719
Speaker 3: in you. Okay, you're not done. You haven't yet spoke.

2123
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,080
Speaker 3: You haven't yet finished spoking in the in the history

2124
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 3: of this featherweight division.

2125
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:05,519
Speaker 15: No, not yet, man, I've like I said, it ain't

2126
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:11,640
Speaker 15: over till it's over. And having my mind and my

2127
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 15: body and my spirit and everything kind of in a

2128
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 15: good place for the first time in my life, I'm

2129
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 15: excited to see what I can accomplish this time. You know,

2130
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 15: I've been I've been in there when my mind and

2131
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 15: body weren't right. I've been in there when my body

2132
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 15: but my mind wasn't right. And this is the first

2133
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 15: time when everything is actually right. Everything's moving smooth, no hiccups,

2134
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 15: no injuries, no drama, no outside noise, no distractions, no craziness,

2135
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 15: no turbulence. It's just me now, the only person that

2136
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 15: I actually have to go to war with and push

2137
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Speaker 15: and just keep moving forward is myself. And it's been,

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Speaker 15: it's been. It's been fun. I'm not gonna lie. I

2139
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 15: wish I figured this out when I was younger, because yeah.

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Speaker 3: You earned this. Enjoy it, you earned it. Okay, we

2141
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:06,200
Speaker 3: can't wait to see us September fourteenth. Thank you so

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01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 3: much for joining us, Brian, that's the way.

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Speaker 1: Thank you really appreciate it.

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01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 16: No, thank you, guys.

2145
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 1: Many September fourteenth is going to be It's gonna be

2146
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: such a great day.

2147
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 3: It's going to be awesome. He seems like he's doing great, man.

2148
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,520
Speaker 3: I mean I want to ask him about having the Greatest.

2149
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Cut him off there when he was making a good point,

2150
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 1: which was a little weird, But in general, I think

2151
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: that was you.

2152
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 3: I tend to cut people off in the show that

2153
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm working on it, okay you Chuck, Minden Hall, you know,

2154
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 3: just the guests, I mean.

2155
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,240
Speaker 1: But in general, that was a good interview. Would you

2156
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: think they're long Island? Look, you haven't brought you in yet.

2157
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 5: I thought that was great man.

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01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I want to ask him about every

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01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 3: woman he ever dated. Look, but he's doing so well

2160
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 3: in U Yeah, I mean that's a little that's really appropriate.

2161
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 3: His kids are there, but.

2162
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 1: His kids was good.

2163
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 3: That was what a gentleman.

2164
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 1: You see them John wicking each other back there, Dude,

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Speaker 1: they look they're gonna be betting the fun out of

2166
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 1: each other.

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01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, fun guests. Good luck to him. That fight

2168
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:55,880
Speaker 3: is going to be very fun looking.

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01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Hey that's oh, here you go, breaking news. Can we

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01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 1: get the alert there? Uh, this is a fun little announcement.

2171
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,679
Speaker 1: Here we go breaking news on Morning Combat on July

2172
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, according to his manager, and they posted it

2173
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,639
Speaker 1: on social media at UFC three oh seven, which will

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Speaker 1: be October fifth, Kevin Holland is back and he's going

2175
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: to be taking on Ready for this, Chris Curtis, Chris

2176
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:19,559
Speaker 1: Curtis versus.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Hollinicklin was never my friend?

2178
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, UFC three oh seven, you had they had a breakup.

2179
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 3: I guess did I could have used the restroom. It

2180
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 3: might be the perfect time to do it, Luke. So

2181
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 3: maybe you can all right go to that point number

2182
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 3: five and I'll just take a whiz. Yeah, nobody beats it.

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01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Here's what we'll do. While we're

2184
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,479
Speaker 1: waiting for BC to empty his bladder like a fucking

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01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: eighty two year old grandmother fucking got the bladder of

2186
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Joe Biden back there. I mean, what are we doing

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01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: hey along island, Luke? How did you do on your

2188
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,120
Speaker 1: betting for UFC three oh four over the weekend?

2189
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 17: Not great, I gotta be honest. I did good on

2190
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:50,960
Speaker 17: the prelims, but main card only when I hit was

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01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 17: tom aspinall.

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Speaker 1: By Ko What did you? What did you whiff on?

2193
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 17: I had Leon by Decision okay, I had the over

2194
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 17: one and a half in Patty by oh yeah?

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01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 5: And then I hit the first two fights. I had

2196
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 5: the over one and a half in Alan and Giga,

2197
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 5: and I had the.

2198
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: Over half around in RoboCop CLD. That fought was actually

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01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:12,879
Speaker 1: no one's talking about that. I was actually pretty good, dude.

2200
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 17: And I said before it started, I said, Robocops alive dog.

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01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 17: I didn't bet on him, but he did cash.

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01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 1: Also, it turns out, did you? I mean, I paid

2203
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: for the pay per view. I don't know if you're

2204
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: a pirrating piece of shit, but do the production errors

2205
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: on that broadcast were absolutely insane, were they not?

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01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 17: I'm really glad you brought this up so I have

2207
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 17: a fight Pass account. That is through a previous job.

2208
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 17: You know, I can get any fight on it for free. Essentially,

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01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 17: those broadcast errors were not on the fight Pass feed.

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01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 17: They were only on the ESPN Plus feed, So anyone

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01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:48,440
Speaker 17: outside of the US did not see those, Okay, roethlisbergers.

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01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: So then that I mean, Dana White had said in

2213
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: the postfight press conference that it was not their fault,

2214
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: it was ESPN's fault, and I am very inclined to

2215
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 1: believe him. Can I tell you a story about this

2216
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: very quickly, if I may go for it? So I

2217
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 1: made a video on my YouTube channel about how bad

2218
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: ESPN Plus is, and I noted consumer surveys, and I

2219
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: noted industry results and everything, and uh, ESPN got wind

2220
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: of it. And I had made a point that I'm

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01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 1: I'm arguing these points as a customer. I'm not arguing

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01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,320
Speaker 1: them as a media member, because no one's gonna care

2223
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: if I'm a media member. But I pay for the

2224
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: pay per views, I should be taken seriously as a customer.

2225
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 1: So they saw that, and then what they did was

2226
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: they granted me. They gave me like a like a

2227
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: super deep customer service rep, like not an ordinary one.

2228
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: But like a really specific one. And yeah, I just

2229
01:41:35,160 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: walk in front of the camera like an asshole, your

2230
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 1: fucking moron, and uh, they gave me two pay per

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01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 1: views for free. They gave me three oh one and

2232
01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:46,200
Speaker 1: three oh two because I had they gave me three

2233
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: oh two and three oh three. Excuse me because three

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01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:51,000
Speaker 1: hundred was fucked up and three oh one was super

2235
01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: fucked up. So they gave me three oh two and

2236
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: three oh three for free. This was the first one

2237
01:41:55,800 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 1: that I bought under the new without their help, and

2238
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: it worked in the sense of like I didn't have

2239
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: the same tech issues, which was great.

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Speaker 3: Can you shake your leg my my microphone rattles. I

2241
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 3: don't want to make a noise, all right, I mean

2242
01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 3: you can live.

2243
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: Uh, no teasing, I'm off stop. But the point I'm

2244
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: trying to make is I was like, wow, all right,

2245
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: they finally got their shit together. And then sure enough

2246
01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 1: during the broadcast, Ben Roethlisberger's third down conversions were a problem.

2247
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:24,080
Speaker 1: How about the guy going oh, channel one, check check,

2248
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:29,040
Speaker 1: channel two, check check check. I was like, holy fucking shit,

2249
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 1: what a disaster.

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Speaker 18: ESPN blamed it on ESPN rightfully, So I gotta say this, dude, ESPN,

2251
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 18: like fifteen years ago, was like untouchable in their quality

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01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 18: and then their prestige and obviously it still is prestigious to.

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01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 1: Be there to like, they still do great work.

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01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:47,720
Speaker 3: My friend Brett works there.

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Speaker 1: Ye know what I'm saying, Like, I know you could

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01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 1: you want to fuck him on air? It's amazing, you guys.

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01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: You guys want to It's unbelievable. But no, I'm being serious.

2258
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: For just a second. BC. They've fallen off a little bit.

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01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. They've fallen off, right, I'm with

2260
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:03,960
Speaker 3: you on that, Okay, all.

2261
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Right, I couldn't believe it. Alright, they finally fixed their ship.

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01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 3: Are we expecting our second guest today too?

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01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: I mean we are sooner?

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01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 3: Can I get into point number five here?

2265
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: I think we started?

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01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 3: All right, let's get into point number five. Hey, Terrence

2267
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,400
Speaker 3: Crawford is back. Whether or not he has retained that

2268
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 3: tom for pound number one slot on your list from

2269
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,719
Speaker 3: his takedown of Arrel Spence one year ago, has taken

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01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 3: that long for a two undisputed division world champion to

2271
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,719
Speaker 3: make his return when he moves up to one hundred

2272
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 3: and fifty four pounds Saturday to challenge Israel Madramov for

2273
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 3: his world title in the main event of Turkey Alishkin

2274
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,479
Speaker 3: riadd Siasons first fight on US soil that will be

2275
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 3: in Los Angeles. A pretty loaded card from top to bottom.

2276
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 3: But Luke, this offers us a chance and opportunity to

2277
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 3: get a close up back at Bud one of the

2278
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,439
Speaker 3: best in the history of this sport, and he proved

2279
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:55,559
Speaker 3: that against Spence. Is he currently your number one. It's

2280
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 3: very competitive at the top in a way and all that,

2281
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 3: but he would be under any other circumstances and could

2282
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 3: be so, Luke Thomas. He had a fantastic sit down

2283
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 3: on All the Smoke fight with andre Ward, which was

2284
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 3: Ward's sort of debut piece of content since joining forces

2285
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 3: alongside of us and the patriarch Brian Daily there and

2286
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 3: the crew from All the Smoke, and we got to

2287
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 3: hear a lot of stuff about the businessman in Bud

2288
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 3: and we got to set the stage for this fight

2289
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 3: and what could be next, which certainly involves all things

2290
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,280
Speaker 3: Canelo Alvarez. So, Luke, while I'm certainly here to talk

2291
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 3: about him moving up and wait and fighting Madrey Mov,

2292
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 3: it feels like the Canelo fight is suddenly back in

2293
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:36,720
Speaker 3: rotation and the discussion this week, It certainly does so well.

2294
01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 3: Can we quick throw to the quotes from Turkey Alischek

2295
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 3: care This is a quote with Mike Coppinger of ESPN.

2296
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 3: I will give Canelo what I think is a fair

2297
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 3: price talking about the biggest fight that he wants to make,

2298
01:44:46,240 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 3: that he thinks is the biggest in the sport. If

2299
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 3: he accepts it, he deals directly with me to finish

2300
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 3: the deal. I don't want anyone in the middle. I

2301
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 3: guaranteed Crawford a big fight. I want Canelo for Crawford,

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01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 3: and Crawford wants Canelo. If Canelo is crazy with his

2303
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 3: financial demands, I will still guarantee Crawford any fight he wants. Luke,

2304
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 3: how much do you think? Look, it's one conversation. What's

2305
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 3: going on with Canelo at one sixty eight in my

2306
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 3: mind and not fighting David Benavitez. But if Crawford moves

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01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,760
Speaker 3: up and wait and takes off Madrive on Saturday, it's

2308
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 3: another title in another division. He's going to be thirty seven, right,

2309
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 3: so it's time to make the biggest fights possible. Is

2310
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,639
Speaker 3: this about Canelo not wanting to fight a smaller man

2311
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 3: and lose if he ends up turning down this offer,

2312
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 3: or in your eyes, is it more about if you

2313
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 3: want it this bad Turkey, meet me at my number,

2314
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 3: whatever that number is.

2315
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Canelo wants this fight at all,

2316
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,480
Speaker 1: and I don't think it matters how much Turkey reasonably

2317
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: offers him. I know what Canelo has said, which is

2318
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 1: two hundred million. I don't think that that was for

2319
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: Benevitez Okay, but he probably would offer a similar number,

2320
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:48,519
Speaker 1: one fifty maybe or something.

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01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 3: All Right, Canelo gets a guarantee in the last few

2322
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 3: big fights of around thirty five to forty million, right,

2323
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 3: h What do you think gets that fight done? Because

2324
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:58,760
Speaker 3: this is the time to do it. Turkey has the means,

2325
01:45:58,760 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 3: so this is the time to do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there is a number that gets that done.

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01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't. I just there's a I think people are

2328
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 1: having a hard time understanding where Canelo was at. Again,

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01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: if he retired today, he would go into the UFC.

2330
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: Is what am I saying? He retired today, he would

2331
01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: go into the International Boxing Hall of Fame. To pardon me,

2332
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 1: and deservedly, I mean in the conversation, absolutely, it's been

2333
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: a joy to cover his career and the berlonga fight

2334
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 1: will not be a bad fight in the sense of entertainment.

2335
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 1: There is certainly going to be I think Canel is

2336
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: probably going to look pretty good doing it. Sure, but

2337
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 1: something happened to Canelo after fighting Beval, and I think

2338
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 1: there is a degree of, if not lost confidence, a

2339
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: recognition about where he's at and what kind of fights

2340
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: he has to have in order to perform ablely and

2341
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: look good. Because by the way, he did look good

2342
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 1: against him Mungia, he did look good against Charlow, and

2343
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 1: certainly the.

2344
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 3: John Rodger when he says when he says, I'll get

2345
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 3: no credit for fighting a fighter that small, you think

2346
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 3: it's more why take the risk of what this will

2347
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,040
Speaker 3: do to me if I lose to that guy?

2348
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 1: I would say this, Listen if Crawford, who has been

2349
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 1: off for a year since just demolishing Eryl Spence, if

2350
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: in fact he looks suspect against a guy at one

2351
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four pounds who is a physical tank.

2352
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: Matromov is a physical tank, but if you watch the tape,

2353
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,479
Speaker 1: he is just not even close to the technician that

2354
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 1: Bud Crawford.

2355
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 3: That's your background though.

2356
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, he is simply not the technician that

2357
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: Bud Crawford is. He is not not even close. And

2358
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: so for that reason, if Bud looks his age and

2359
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: the weight really diminishes his pop and really makes him

2360
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 1: look like, wow, okay, this is beatable. Remember he'd have

2361
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 1: to go to sixty and potentially sixty eight in order

2362
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: to secureifight with Canelo. Maybe under that circumstance something could

2363
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: be done. But I have a feeling that Bud is

2364
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: going to look really fucking good on Saturday. I don't

2365
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: know if he stops him or not, but I think

2366
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 1: he's going to look really, really awesome. And I'm just

2367
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 1: trying to be clear. I don't believe Canelo really wants

2368
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: to take on anybody at this point who is in

2369
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,800
Speaker 1: any kind of way a genuine threat. Rider not a

2370
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: genuine threat, Charlo not a genuine threat, Mungia not a

2371
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 1: genuine threat, and Burlonga certainly not a genuine threat. This

2372
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 1: is where we are, and I think you're having a

2373
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: hard time accepting that from somebody whose career up to

2374
01:48:10,160 --> 01:48:12,559
Speaker 1: this point, I can't has been superb beyond word.

2375
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 3: I can't accept that he would try to duck both

2376
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 3: or avoid both or not take fights with both. But

2377
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 3: then again, he just took the monkey a fight. Now

2378
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,879
Speaker 3: we're gonna do Burlonga. So it's like he's like slapping

2379
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 3: in the face. But look, if we can I can

2380
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 3: come to terms. I guess on him avoiding Benevetez and

2381
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 3: hoping maybe that fight comes back around for stupid money.

2382
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 3: But I think the competitor in him would take the

2383
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 3: Crawford fight, but it just needs Turkey to fill in

2384
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 3: that gap for whatever that price is. Maybe that price

2385
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 3: is one hundred million, if we know that. Originally Anthony

2386
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 3: Joshua when he fought Andy Ruis in the rematch in Saudi,

2387
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:45,280
Speaker 3: which was like one of the was the first big

2388
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 3: boxing match there, he got what seventy five or eighty million,

2389
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 3: that was his like flat feet. If you can give

2390
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,240
Speaker 3: Canelo one hundred million for a fight that big, If

2391
01:48:52,280 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 3: you can do that, he'll fight.

2392
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: If Crawford is a real threat, If Canelo genuinely perceives

2393
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 1: him to be a real threat, there is not an

2394
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 1: amount of money that will make a difference. All right, Well,

2395
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a thirty five million dollars guarantee to

2396
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: fight a guy he's going to wipe the floor with why.

2397
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,719
Speaker 3: Would you take too bad to miss both of these fights?

2398
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,360
Speaker 3: These are the two of the three biggest fights you

2399
01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 3: can make the entire sport. Him and Benavidez and him.

2400
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 1: And car How many of this? How many of the

2401
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 1: by the way, people are like, well, why didn't Benevitez

2402
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: activated mandatory status because he doesn't want He didn't want

2403
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: to do it on the mandatory contract. He wanted to

2404
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,240
Speaker 1: do it independent of that so you can get more money.

2405
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 1: But putting that aside, dude, how many big fights in

2406
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,280
Speaker 1: a row? Does Canelo need to skip post bivol for

2407
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: you to recognize we're in a different place now.

2408
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 3: All right, Well, here's Terrence Crawford sitting down with andre

2409
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 3: Ward of All the Smoke Fight. You can catch this

2410
01:49:48,120 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 3: on the All the Smoke Boxing YouTube channels. Check out

2411
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 3: the social media channels for all these big following here, Luke,

2412
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 3: We're happy to be a part of it. And this

2413
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,559
Speaker 3: was a very interesting sit down. Here's Terrence Crawford talking

2414
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:00,559
Speaker 3: about the Turkey and Saudi effect and really why he's

2415
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 3: getting it right where other promoters got it wrong.

2416
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 9: All the promoters say, oh what Terrence Crawford can't say

2417
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 9: Terrence Crafford is bad for business. Terrence Cruffer, this, Terrence Cruffer.

2418
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 9: That all so much negativity. But when you look at

2419
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 9: my numbers compared to they fighters that they trying to

2420
01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 9: push snighting day, he's seen that with his own turkey.

2421
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 9: He's seen that and he just was like, I want

2422
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:27,760
Speaker 9: I'm I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do it

2423
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 9: with him as a matter of fact, since y'all always

2424
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,639
Speaker 9: got something negative to say about him, Take a fighter

2425
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:40,080
Speaker 9: from y'all promotional company, take a fighter from y'all promotional,

2426
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 9: put them on an undercar. I feelm he doing that

2427
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 9: and y'all can't do nothing about it. So now who's

2428
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 9: in charge. He just bringing boxing and the excitement back

2429
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 9: to boxing the way it should be, where all the

2430
01:50:55,160 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 9: promoters should be working together instead of trying to compete.

2431
01:50:58,720 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: With each other.

2432
01:50:59,320 --> 01:51:01,680
Speaker 9: And I think that's what he's doing right now, is

2433
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:02,599
Speaker 9: mixing the game up.

2434
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 10: Man.

2435
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 9: I think you're right, bro.

2436
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 19: And you know how it is like like everybody got

2437
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 19: beef and funk until the money comes into play. It

2438
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 19: is big enough money. All of a sudden, you're not

2439
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 19: enemy and y'all seeing that with Turkey right now coming

2440
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 19: over this.

2441
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: Was very unconvincing to me in what way? So it

2442
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: is true that Turkey is putting money in there and

2443
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,120
Speaker 1: making people work together in a way that they hadn't before,

2444
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 1: and the card is constructed in the way in which

2445
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,160
Speaker 1: Bud discussed that part I think I agree with, but like, oh,

2446
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 1: there's so much negativity around Bud. Bud is notoriously famous

2447
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 1: for not wanting to do media, even prespense. You know,

2448
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:42,120
Speaker 1: I've certainly had some conversations with people who have had

2449
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 1: promoted fights with him before, and they tell me he

2450
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: is uniquely difficult to work with in ways, and even

2451
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 1: other difficult people are not easy to work with. He

2452
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 1: is an enormous mega talent, and I'm glad he's getting paid.

2453
01:51:56,439 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 1: But it didn't happen because people just decided they didn't

2454
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:01,800
Speaker 1: like Terence Crawford.

2455
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's talking about heart.

2456
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Part of the reason he had difficulty promoting with other

2457
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 1: people is because he brought some of that on himself.

2458
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: Turkey is willing to look past that and make the money,

2459
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 1: make it like it's no big deal. But there's a

2460
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 1: real lack of self awareness about what problems he's contributed.

2461
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:20,879
Speaker 1: I agree with that to the equation.

2462
01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 3: The larger discussion that they seem to be having was

2463
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 3: Crawford's idea that the reality is all these and power

2464
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 3: players in boxing don't hate each other and actually are

2465
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,679
Speaker 3: willing to work together. And it takes someone like Turkey

2466
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 3: showing up with the money and suddenly everybody's like, where

2467
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 3: do I sign up? So he's basically saying, look, the

2468
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 3: one thing I did like. And this plays into that

2469
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 3: about this interview and maybe what can allow somebody like

2470
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 3: andre Ward, who's going to get that level of respect

2471
01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 3: from Crawford to have deep talks like this about power

2472
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 3: and leverage and all of that is they look at

2473
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 3: it almost like the fighters are being deceived by the

2474
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 3: system by all this talk of other side of the street,

2475
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 3: when reality that's only a thing if you believe it's

2476
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 3: a thing. And they're trying to say that this money

2477
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 3: and it could be Turkey, he could be anybody, but

2478
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 3: Turkey's the guy with the money is the great equalizer

2479
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 3: because it's showing that everyone really I don't know if

2480
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 3: I really believe that all these guys are friends, but

2481
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 3: I get what he's saying, it's the same kind of idea, Luke.

2482
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 3: If I think that people get so exhausted in the

2483
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,760
Speaker 3: political debates in this country and play the home team

2484
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 3: so aggressively against one another, when you can argue in

2485
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 3: reality that all everybody's on the same team in the

2486
01:53:20,120 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 3: same way. I don't know if that's true, But what

2487
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,680
Speaker 3: I liked about this specific sit down was how much

2488
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 3: we got to see the chess player of Bud because

2489
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,639
Speaker 3: we saw his business acumen come out in this interview.

2490
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 3: We saw the power that he believes the fighters already

2491
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 3: have but don't execute. And it kind of made me

2492
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 3: look back because he did give a slowers to Floyd

2493
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 3: for his as critical if we were at times of

2494
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 3: Floyd's matchmaking and the selective nature of it, and we

2495
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 3: should have been. I think when you do look back,

2496
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 3: Floyd brought in a lot of change in the business game.

2497
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 3: We blame him for creating boxing businessmen who weren't as

2498
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 3: good as him, who were trying to position themselves and

2499
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 3: not challenge themselves, maybe too much, because what he did

2500
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,959
Speaker 3: come in and bring him and out Hayman was eliminate

2501
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:00,960
Speaker 3: the middleman and put in show the fighter how much

2502
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 3: you really are worth. What I loved about this conversation

2503
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 3: was Bud's basically saying, to this day, these fighters still

2504
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,680
Speaker 3: don't know what they are worth, and if they if

2505
01:54:07,720 --> 01:54:09,559
Speaker 3: they if they stood out more, if they were willing

2506
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:10,799
Speaker 3: to use their leverage.

2507
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: But my only problem with Buzz's assessment here is that

2508
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:17,760
Speaker 1: he consistently paints a world where he can't fail. He

2509
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 1: can only be failed. People have only failed him up

2510
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 1: to this point. I just played no role in that.

2511
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, like, I'm a curmudgeon and I

2512
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,680
Speaker 1: know that I've earned that reputation by the things that

2513
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:33,880
Speaker 1: I've done. He thinks he gets labeled as a curmudgeon

2514
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 1: and it's invented out of thin air by people who

2515
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: have vendettas against him, and I'm like, mmmm, I don't

2516
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:43,800
Speaker 1: think that's the way this goes. However, your point about

2517
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,440
Speaker 1: taking ownership of his career and then the smarts he's

2518
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 1: used to do that, Yes, that is very clearly true. Again,

2519
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:51,760
Speaker 1: he got paid twenty was it him and Spense each

2520
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: got twenty five million? Yeah, and I like to fight

2521
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,480
Speaker 1: each other. He deserved every single cent of that, and

2522
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm glad that they got that deal.

2523
01:54:57,840 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 3: It's interesting to hear the inside baseball off how he

2524
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,600
Speaker 3: called up directly and that's suddenly.

2525
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:02,880
Speaker 1: Yes, this is exactly right.

2526
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 3: This is what we're hearing. Just his side, obviously, but

2527
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 3: it does really illuminate the mindset that the chest playing

2528
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 3: of Terrence Crawfford, even though there's times that we looked

2529
01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 3: like he was making the wrong moves, and he did

2530
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 3: bring up that lawsuit against Top Rank for racism and

2531
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 3: basically said that they settled out of court and Terrence

2532
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 3: won big, So I guess more power to him in

2533
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: that regard. I want to play quick bit of of

2534
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 3: Crawford when he was on aerial show recently on the

2535
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 3: M M A Hour where he lined up like, seems

2536
01:55:26,080 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 3: like Boots is suddenly a big fight for you. But Luke,

2537
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,440
Speaker 3: he doesn't seem to want Boots. And here's why.

2538
01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:34,360
Speaker 4: From Crawford's mouth where I'm at right now, I'm looking

2539
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 4: at the fight that makes the most so say that's

2540
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 4: not Boots. Canelo is going to be any way more

2541
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:48,520
Speaker 4: to my legacy, way more to my bank account, you know,

2542
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, when boxing was done,

2543
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:59,880
Speaker 4: we have m no, I want to have uh uh

2544
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:05,960
Speaker 4: a legacy does something that people talk about for ages,

2545
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:10,440
Speaker 4: and not only that, I would have a bank account

2546
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:13,200
Speaker 4: that will last ages as well.

2547
01:56:15,040 --> 01:56:17,400
Speaker 3: If he fought Canelo and then beat him, he'd have

2548
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,360
Speaker 3: a legacy that would have no limit. I mean, I mean,

2549
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,040
Speaker 3: you couldn't say he's the greatest fighter ever, but I'm

2550
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 3: saying he would have the opportunity to leap into such

2551
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 3: further discussions of his greatness if he was able to

2552
01:56:27,400 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 3: get this fight.

2553
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: I think his confidence. I think he can beat Canelo.

2554
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to point out something. Did you

2555
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: see the video and it was it was you know,

2556
01:56:35,000 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: it was friendly ish banter back and forth between him

2557
01:56:37,320 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 1: and Eddie Hearn.

2558
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 3: Did you see this?

2559
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 1: This is what I mean, Like he sees Eddie Hearn

2560
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 1: and the first thing he does is just start just

2561
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 1: start going after him. But I beat your guy this

2562
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:48,400
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And again it's partly friendly and Eddie.

2563
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: Eddie used it so perfectly. But it's like, you know,

2564
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:56,839
Speaker 1: if you rubbed half of boxing the wrong way, maybe

2565
01:56:56,880 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: half of those people misunderstands you. I fully bel leave that,

2566
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 1: but also maybe you brought that a little bit on yourself.

2567
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:07,839
Speaker 1: I a little bit of a lack of awareness about

2568
01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,960
Speaker 1: what role he plays in, Like he only wants credit

2569
01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: for the authorship he's taken for the right decisions that

2570
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:18,720
Speaker 1: has gone well. He doesn't ever seem to take any

2571
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: authorship over things that were stalled. He tends to just

2572
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,960
Speaker 1: say everyone else failed me, And I'm like, this ring's

2573
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 1: quite inauthentic to me.

2574
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 3: Interesting stuff.

2575
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: Oh the way, I've breaking news, I've breaking news, breaking news.

2576
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: According to Marca, which is the biggest Spanish newspaper in

2577
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 1: a million years, it better be good for going to Spain,

2578
01:57:38,000 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 1: for they're saying that, and they're very close to Illiot's

2579
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:44,120
Speaker 1: a Portia. They're saying that his first title defense is

2580
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: going to be an Abu Dhabi on October twenty sixth,

2581
01:57:47,400 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 1: So that means he would probably be fighting Max October

2582
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:52,680
Speaker 1: twenty six in Abu Dhabi, which means it's an afternoon time.

2583
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:54,680
Speaker 1: And why is that important? Because if it's an Abu Dhabi,

2584
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 1: it's primetime in Europe, yes, which means that it won't

2585
01:57:57,760 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 1: be in Spain. It won't be in Europe, but it

2586
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 1: will be in a place where they can watch on

2587
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 1: their normal game.

2588
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:03,720
Speaker 3: It's going to say this weekend that he can't go

2589
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,760
Speaker 3: to Spain because all those arenas are backed up post

2590
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 3: COVID with the schedule is already full, so it's been

2591
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 3: hard to find sure find a big venue. I mean

2592
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 3: he could say what he says, I'll quickly look to

2593
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 3: close on our boxing talk. We like him extra sloppy

2594
01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:17,840
Speaker 3: and two heavyweights that we didn't even preview coming in

2595
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,160
Speaker 3: Derek Gesora at forty years old and what was going

2596
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 3: to be built as his last fight against thirty eight

2597
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 3: year old Joe Joyce turned in a Fight of the

2598
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:30,040
Speaker 3: Year contender Luke in a sloppy brawl which Gesaa in

2599
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 3: round nine throws that Lacey CounterPunch that floored Joyce. Chessoura

2600
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:39,320
Speaker 3: goes on to earn a close decision. But Luke, this

2601
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 3: was like rock em sock em robot. Does this prove

2602
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:46,160
Speaker 3: that if you get the the right washed fighters think

2603
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:48,880
Speaker 3: Diaz and Osvin on the boxing match at the right time,

2604
01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 3: you can produce this type of magic.

2605
01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: If you're washed, but you give it what you got

2606
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: against another washed guy who's also giving it what they've got,

2607
01:58:57,120 --> 01:59:00,560
Speaker 1: where it's offense first defense second not no d defense, but.

2608
01:59:00,760 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 3: No, there was no defense from Joejoyce Okay, what I'm.

2609
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 1: Saying, there still was some defense, but offense first. It

2610
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:11,280
Speaker 1: can work. It can absolutely work. That's the formula. Both

2611
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 1: guys have to give it. Both guys have to be

2612
01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:16,280
Speaker 1: offense first. Period. That's how it has to go. But

2613
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: it can work.

2614
01:59:16,960 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 3: So Joe Joyce was weighed around two hundred and fifty

2615
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:22,560
Speaker 3: seven pounds in his first fight against Jean Jay Lee

2616
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 3: in which he got stopped. He ended upetting stpped in

2617
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 3: the rematch when he put on a lot of weight. Look,

2618
01:59:25,960 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 3: he was up to two eighty one for this fight.

2619
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't that he was completely out of shape. It's

2620
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 3: just that Joe Joyce squared up from the start, was

2621
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna move my head at all or

2622
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 3: block any punches. And they just had a war and

2623
01:59:36,000 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 3: it was slow. Tim Bradley on the call on the

2624
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 3: ESPN Plus, it was like, look like they're punching in

2625
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:42,640
Speaker 3: slow motion. But it was sort of like who Chasaura

2626
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 3: is in the end. So I'm glad that he got

2627
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 3: this moment. But dude, remember when Joe Joyce knocked out

2628
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:49,440
Speaker 3: du Bois, he knocked out Joseph Parker, Like, dude, he

2629
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 3: went through a run of these like B B plus

2630
01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 3: heavyweights and then as soon as he ran into Jay

2631
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 3: Lee Jong dude twice he he got handled and he's

2632
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 3: kind of done done. We got a great quote by

2633
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,240
Speaker 3: Chasaura though which we had to make our show.

2634
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,840
Speaker 1: Luke had to I'm like a ship that won't flush.

2635
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:08,800
Speaker 3: What a way to end it? I hope he? I

2636
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 3: hope he officially does like MK, Yeah, exactly, we're not

2637
02:00:12,080 --> 02:00:14,560
Speaker 3: going away? Should we start the ship speaking?

2638
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:16,320
Speaker 1: I think we should. I don't think waiting on Andy's

2639
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:18,280
Speaker 1: Randy or Andy Cumming.

2640
02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 3: Neither of the two.

2641
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:21,160
Speaker 5: Randy should be here shortly.

2642
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 3: Randy Ruiz rhin Otago is great, though, so shout out

2643
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 3: to him.

2644
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 1: Listen. That was the most important one until I caught

2645
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 1: him off.

2646
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 3: All right, Luke, I scholared the globe over the weekend

2647
02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 3: for the highs, the lows, the bat the lean between.

2648
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 3: This one's called have you seen the ship? Yeah, Luke Thomas,

2649
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,560
Speaker 3: are you ready for UFC three oh four in Manchester? Content?

2650
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 1: My wife is telling me I have to go to

2651
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 1: a fucking happy hour in Columbia this weekend.

2652
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:50,120
Speaker 3: Oh that's great.

2653
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm not very excited about it.

2654
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:53,040
Speaker 3: Sneak in a lot of edibles.

2655
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I should just bring drugs to Columbia. I'm

2656
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: sure that will go quite well for me.

2657
02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 3: Look, you gotta get warmed up before a pay per

2658
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 3: view card like three oh four. Check out Bruce Buffer

2659
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 3: loosening it up?

2660
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 1: What is me before I take a dump? Here?

2661
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 3: Look at that. He's very flexible. Do you think he's

2662
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:06,360
Speaker 3: a sensible lover?

2663
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't, uh, in any way you want to consider that?

2664
02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:11,200
Speaker 1: Oh whatsoever?

2665
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:14,160
Speaker 3: Luke? Shawna Bannon scored her first career victory and the

2666
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:17,000
Speaker 3: curtain jerker, and then her coach was terrible, went right

2667
02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 3: into the camera. We go to drop a little bit more.

2668
02:01:19,120 --> 02:01:19,880
Speaker 1: But stiff job?

2669
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:21,360
Speaker 3: HOI frame stiff job?

2670
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2671
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 5: Now what's going to stack at labor?

2672
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 9: Oh?

2673
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 16: Me? Uh?

2674
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 3: Luke, your quote of the weekend really came from Patty Dude.

2675
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 3: I I I'm becoming a fan somehow and it look

2676
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:37,919
Speaker 3: at check this delivery, Luke statement made picture.

2677
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean, come right, he's growing on me.

2678
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 3: He is, he's growing growing.

2679
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:45,920
Speaker 1: I still think Toporia would have wrecked his ship, but

2680
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:47,000
Speaker 1: he's growing on me.

2681
02:01:47,040 --> 02:01:49,520
Speaker 3: Look, did you see that distraction in the arena of

2682
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 3: the moment? The main event of belaal versus Leon end it.

2683
02:01:52,400 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 3: It was a brawl in the crowd. Look at this, dude,

2684
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 3: we got chairs. This is wild.

2685
02:01:56,640 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 1: What did they fucking like?

2686
02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 3: No, the NFL game is down the road, folks. Not here, No,

2687
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:01,160
Speaker 3: not here.

2688
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the one that we saw that was

2689
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: totally Oh it was in Mexico. Yes, it was a

2690
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 1: UFC Mexico and they let the fight just burn out naturally.

2691
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 3: Your pick of the week also involves Patty pimblet Luke.

2692
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 3: This is a pretty sick pick suitable for framing. Puts

2693
02:02:18,920 --> 02:02:20,960
Speaker 3: King Green to sleep and then mangles his arm.

2694
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 1: Fucking arm. That is such a.

2695
02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 3: Wild bagging him with the orange shorts.

2696
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:26,400
Speaker 1: Well he's got the he's got the athletic gear on

2697
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,400
Speaker 1: with the cup. But yeah, it's not a great look.

2698
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:30,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't all fun and games though. At three oh four, Luke,

2699
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 3: we had a couple of fails. How about d C

2700
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:34,240
Speaker 3: failing to remember the name.

2701
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,960
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for the Walthaway Champions,

2702
02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: Leon Rocky, I'm.

2703
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 3: Sorry, Leon Rocky Pennington. There we go.

2704
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he in fact did not remember the name.

2705
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:49,800
Speaker 3: And you mentioned Big Ben Luke a great quarterback, bad date,

2706
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:52,120
Speaker 3: but he kept showing up on the broadcast. Here's Mike

2707
02:02:52,160 --> 02:02:56,320
Speaker 3: Heck and GC of m m A fighting fame reacting

2708
02:02:56,360 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 3: to it.

2709
02:02:57,120 --> 02:02:58,240
Speaker 9: They're getting out of there.

2710
02:02:58,840 --> 02:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Uh, Ben Roethlisberger third that yeah, Ben as Wayne Rooney

2711
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 1: and again.

2712
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:24,160
Speaker 3: There is no lie. It kept happening. Give us the

2713
02:03:24,160 --> 02:03:28,880
Speaker 3: fifth time I have to go to break dude the

2714
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:29,360
Speaker 3: last time.

2715
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,240
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, Mike hec is great. Also Connor

2716
02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:34,160
Speaker 1: Burk's there is a great dude as well. Let me

2717
02:03:34,240 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 1: just say this, the ESPN plus fucking sucks. Yes, they

2718
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:38,960
Speaker 1: fucking suck.

2719
02:03:39,080 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 3: You know who didn't suck In Detroit over the weekend,

2720
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:43,560
Speaker 3: Cloressa Shields moving up two weight divisions to one hundred

2721
02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 3: and seventy five pounds, and Luke for the first time

2722
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 3: since her fourth pro fight.

2723
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:49,280
Speaker 1: She's going a knockout, I know, but she's fighting the

2724
02:03:49,320 --> 02:03:52,120
Speaker 1: lady who does like duncan do, you know.

2725
02:03:52,520 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 3: To kind of get the confusion out of the way.

2726
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 3: This fight was at one seventy five, which is normally

2727
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:58,880
Speaker 3: light heavyweight, but two of the four sanctioning bodies rule

2728
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:02,520
Speaker 3: one seventy five as women's heavyweight, so she technically won

2729
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:07,320
Speaker 3: of vacant heavyweight title. And yes, it was intense.

2730
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:09,520
Speaker 1: Right, a lot of cake.

2731
02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 3: Okay, let's take that back. But look that that highlight

2732
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,680
Speaker 3: was legit and I watched the fight is awesome.

2733
02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 1: She's the problem is due. She just doesn't have anybody

2734
02:04:20,600 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 1: who can stand up to her. It doesn't matter what

2735
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:25,879
Speaker 1: weight she goes to. She over matted the only way. Seriously,

2736
02:04:26,040 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: this is true. The only way she can find a

2737
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: peer to give her problems is to change sports, to

2738
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: go to m m A. That's it. Other than that,

2739
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:33,960
Speaker 1: she just wipes the floor.

2740
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 3: Everybody a real recognized real in a massive way. This

2741
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 3: week as MK fan and Amateur Rising fight, Holy Christian

2742
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 3: Deguero on the left, he once put MK right on

2743
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 3: his package, Luke, and that's Poton. Damn.

2744
02:04:47,320 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: That is amazing, Like Poton's fucking He's everywhere.

2745
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's traveling more than Ryan Garcia these days, it seems.

2746
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but probably a lot more sober Yeah, less.

2747
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:00,560
Speaker 3: Shout out to Christian there. One day, we're gonna have

2748
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 3: to corner him coach Litory style. You know it's coming.

2749
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: I would love to. I owe him video breakdown. I

2750
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:08,160
Speaker 1: gave him. I gave him I did. I did go

2751
02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 1: through his tape and I did talk about some overarching lessons,

2752
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:13,120
Speaker 1: but having gone through the individual pieces of footage, give

2753
02:05:13,200 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 1: him his own I do. I promised him I would.

2754
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,760
Speaker 1: I did. I did go through the footage and I did,

2755
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: but we we went back and forth with audio clips,

2756
02:05:18,680 --> 02:05:19,360
Speaker 1: so I did do that.

2757
02:05:19,440 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 3: He's one of us at the end of the day.

2758
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 3: He's a great guy.

2759
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:23,200
Speaker 10: By the way.

2760
02:05:23,280 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met him once when you had a lot

2761
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 3: of Margarita's boxing tip to tip time on this face

2762
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:32,280
Speaker 3: off extreme tip to tip that guys got they got

2763
02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:34,840
Speaker 3: a hard one like he's McGregor at the at the

2764
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 3: Floyd Way and Luke, look at that meat pipe. Wow

2765
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:40,640
Speaker 3: that is you know, and he's wow.

2766
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:43,880
Speaker 1: Look at these two. Yeah they are you know what

2767
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 1: they do?

2768
02:05:45,400 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 3: Look in love to be fair? Look they do. That's great.

2769
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:50,640
Speaker 1: Listen, Pride Month was last month. But these two guys

2770
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:51,360
Speaker 1: look ready for fun.

2771
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,520
Speaker 3: That was great. Luke, you say vaping is for closers,

2772
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 3: right this Sphinx.

2773
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been to the Sphinx.

2774
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,400
Speaker 3: You have. Yes, the Grateful Dead once played it right

2775
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:04,880
Speaker 3: in front of.

2776
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: It, did they really?

2777
02:06:05,400 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2778
02:06:05,560 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 1: It must have been all Remember they were part of

2779
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:09,200
Speaker 1: the show that we saw. Yeah, I didn't realize that

2780
02:06:09,240 --> 02:06:12,520
Speaker 1: was connected. It is incredible that long I went inside

2781
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 1: one of the pyramids.

2782
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:16,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, with your father.

2783
02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 1: With my dad and my brother.

2784
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what year?

2785
02:06:22,320 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 1: I was nine years old, so this would have been

2786
02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 1: eighty nine, something like that, ninety, Luke.

2787
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:29,200
Speaker 3: Let's let's check out this lady. Let's see it.

2788
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:37,000
Speaker 1: Get the air of my yard. You could have you

2789
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:37,840
Speaker 1: could have kept that one.

2790
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 3: See there was borderline, but I fell for it, Luke,

2791
02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 3: I fell for it. Luke. Would you would you date

2792
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:45,120
Speaker 3: or swipe on this lady?

2793
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:45,320
Speaker 1: Which?

2794
02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:58,280
Speaker 3: What do you think? And she she did the pig thing?

2795
02:06:58,360 --> 02:07:03,280
Speaker 1: The uh yeah, no, I hope you gets hit by

2796
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 1: a bus.

2797
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:06,320
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to white people having fun with champagne.

2798
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:07,840
Speaker 16: Luke, take it really really hard?

2799
02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 1: What the fuck that one?

2800
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:16,920
Speaker 3: Wow? That was that one ended? Very you know, not

2801
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 3: the first death we've shown on this show, though, Luke. Okay,

2802
02:07:19,280 --> 02:07:22,040
Speaker 3: that's that's we've shown, Dick, We've shown death. What's next?

2803
02:07:22,080 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 3: That's my question? All right, Let's this one really hit

2804
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:26,000
Speaker 3: me hard?

2805
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:26,240
Speaker 1: Luke.

2806
02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 3: I can feel this guy's pain. Let's take a quick

2807
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 3: look at laziness.

2808
02:07:32,720 --> 02:07:39,880
Speaker 1: My leg is broken, dude, did you assemble the Okay? Okay, okay, okay,

2809
02:07:40,480 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 1: here's what happens. Here's what happened. You have clearly assembled

2810
02:07:44,840 --> 02:07:47,240
Speaker 1: a list of things that you think were funny when

2811
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 1: you were high as a motherfucker. This has long hits

2812
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:55,720
Speaker 1: as inspiration written all over.

2813
02:07:56,080 --> 02:07:58,800
Speaker 3: Just get high, Luke, you'll probably enjoy it more. Do

2814
02:07:58,800 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 3: you remember when we showed the Larry Holmes video of

2815
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:04,360
Speaker 3: the drop kick my Style off off the windshield? Somebody

2816
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 3: sent this from a trash reality show, but shout out

2817
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:17,560
Speaker 3: to this moment Hyllandennis Style? Dude, what the.

2818
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: Fuck did she do to deserve that she got? What

2819
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 1: the fuck?

2820
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 15: Yeah?

2821
02:08:21,840 --> 02:08:24,520
Speaker 3: Look, you big Seinfeld guy, I'm not no, I was

2822
02:08:24,520 --> 02:08:26,200
Speaker 3: never 'en know. If you're gonna laugh at this clip,

2823
02:08:26,240 --> 02:08:30,280
Speaker 3: then I'm busting.

2824
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm busting.

2825
02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:31,920
Speaker 3: What's going on?

2826
02:08:38,160 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 16: Well?

2827
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:40,400
Speaker 1: And Luke wreat that for me? Will you?

2828
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 3: Ten?

2829
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:44,080
Speaker 1: Okay, he was high when he made this, wasn't he?

2830
02:08:44,960 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 3: I mean?

2831
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:45,720
Speaker 8: Aren't we all?

2832
02:08:46,680 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 1: I wish?

2833
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:47,680
Speaker 4: Look?

2834
02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:49,720
Speaker 3: You know the old record record on my org a bit,

2835
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:51,960
Speaker 3: you know, keep hitting me, it doesn't hurt me. Watch

2836
02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:53,640
Speaker 3: this in m m A.

2837
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 1: Okay, put your fucking hands up. What the fuck are

2838
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: you doing? What he paid?

2839
02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:05,560
Speaker 3: They waved off the fight, stop defending himself and the

2840
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 3: ref gave.

2841
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: Him in Kazakhstan the NISA promotion. Yeah, Kazakhstan. Dude, what

2842
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:13,520
Speaker 1: the fuck are these guys doing?

2843
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:14,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, people.

2844
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:17,600
Speaker 1: Playing regional mm is the real ship?

2845
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:19,200
Speaker 6: That's ship?

2846
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:21,520
Speaker 3: Speaking of people playing with fireworks.

2847
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:27,440
Speaker 1: I can't believe he's white. That seems so out of character.

2848
02:09:28,840 --> 02:09:32,520
Speaker 1: Oh you you fucking yeah?

2849
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 16: Wow?

2850
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Germany for these these two

2851
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:36,960
Speaker 3: kids fooling around here.

2852
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:44,320
Speaker 1: Hi, I'm saying, great trick.

2853
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:55,600
Speaker 6: Inns.

2854
02:09:57,560 --> 02:10:00,480
Speaker 3: Look, we're getting closer to the combats. It's a vent

2855
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 3: of the summer. Craig Jones versus Gabby Garcia. Have you

2856
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 3: been watching their pre fight? Here's just a piece of

2857
02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:11,120
Speaker 3: what we can expect.

2858
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:14,320
Speaker 1: How you think you're gonna be a man?

2859
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 3: What's the way you're gonna do that one?

2860
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:18,600
Speaker 1: It's never been dead before.

2861
02:10:19,280 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 6: He's not.

2862
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 3: If I put like my my mom, my grandma.

2863
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:28,240
Speaker 20: Watching your grandma and your mom shout out right ship

2864
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:33,520
Speaker 20: about she's going to the other he's gonna take to

2865
02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:43,960
Speaker 20: the bloody out back stackhouse. By Okay, let's keeps.

2866
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,919
Speaker 3: Not the line he text my mom.

2867
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:47,440
Speaker 20: But this is how we get introuble.

2868
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:49,000
Speaker 16: She asked her shirt.

2869
02:10:50,200 --> 02:10:58,680
Speaker 15: No, she never asked not.

2870
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 4: Sir, And.

2871
02:10:58,840 --> 02:11:00,600
Speaker 20: What's the matter with that very act?

2872
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:03,920
Speaker 1: You think he was delivered by the star?

2873
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 9: No, no, but.

2874
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 6: No, it's okay.

2875
02:11:08,760 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 3: But my mom give my mom like this.

2876
02:11:12,280 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 20: If you came out, guys, you imagine you'll better be

2877
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:18,080
Speaker 20: backing something in there.

2878
02:11:20,960 --> 02:11:24,000
Speaker 1: Dude, I met Hanata Lauraja. I met him at twenty

2879
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 1: fourteen at Glory Last Man's Standing Character but he he

2880
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:29,560
Speaker 1: uh didn't do it for me because he was just

2881
02:11:29,560 --> 02:11:32,320
Speaker 1: hanging out. He's actually there just as a fan. He

2882
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 1: is such a nice guy. I don't know beyond what

2883
02:11:34,480 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 1: I just met, so you know, hilarious, he is fucking hilarious.

2884
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:41,400
Speaker 1: Craig Jones is a star.

2885
02:11:42,040 --> 02:11:44,840
Speaker 3: Did you see that other clip where they they make

2886
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:48,320
Speaker 3: a bet where only fans collaboration. If he can tap

2887
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,120
Speaker 3: her via leg lock, she'll do an only fans collaboration

2888
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:53,520
Speaker 3: or if she wins, she gets a million dollars and

2889
02:11:53,560 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 3: he's like, either way she will be limping out of

2890
02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:59,920
Speaker 3: the fair afterwards. I mean, it's just damn dude, the.

2891
02:11:59,840 --> 02:12:02,080
Speaker 1: Best Larry, He's so unique and he's given away Gordon

2892
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:02,839
Speaker 1: Ryan's Miana.

2893
02:12:03,640 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 3: On top of that, Luke, there's a lot of categories

2894
02:12:05,880 --> 02:12:18,040
Speaker 3: that make this next fail. Exciting. We checked a few

2895
02:12:18,080 --> 02:12:20,320
Speaker 3: different boxes on that one, and we closed Luke with

2896
02:12:20,360 --> 02:12:22,480
Speaker 3: the catchiest song of the summer.

2897
02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 1: I'll go in to a strim markeet a bone with

2898
02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys.

2899
02:12:28,840 --> 02:12:36,000
Speaker 3: This is the greatest day, This is the greatest.

2900
02:12:36,240 --> 02:12:38,120
Speaker 1: Have you ever eaten at a strip club?

2901
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:43,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah I have. I've had the buffet before, so yeah,

2902
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 3: I've done you. Never forget it. The wings are just like.

2903
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done it. I did it on them wings.

2904
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:51,160
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

2905
02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:56,480
Speaker 1: I did. I did a Camelot in Washington, d C.

2906
02:12:56,640 --> 02:12:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure you did. You came out.

2907
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:02,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's an interesting one. Camelot has been in like

2908
02:13:02,320 --> 02:13:05,400
Speaker 1: a business district for as long as forever. Yeah, and

2909
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:09,400
Speaker 1: it survived covid On basically between eighteenth and nineteenth and

2910
02:13:09,440 --> 02:13:11,840
Speaker 1: that's like unheard of. All the bars around their died.

2911
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:13,960
Speaker 1: Amelot survived, all right.

2912
02:13:14,160 --> 02:13:16,240
Speaker 3: I want to thank Brian Ortega for showing up today, Luke.

2913
02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:18,360
Speaker 1: I want to think Randy Cotour my gatur.

2914
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 3: Will hopefully get him next week. We missed Andy Ruiz

2915
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 3: Junior again, but I am looking forward to that fight

2916
02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:23,800
Speaker 3: Saturday against you.

2917
02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 1: Know he does. I mean, let's just be honest.

2918
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,200
Speaker 3: Okay, no, we got even know we gotta do fat jokes.

2919
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:28,360
Speaker 16: Now.

2920
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:31,440
Speaker 3: Wow, that's the show for the week. Luke, are we

2921
02:13:31,480 --> 02:13:34,760
Speaker 3: coming back for free to to talk about Abu Dabi

2922
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 3: or no?

2923
02:13:35,720 --> 02:13:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean I'm off. I'm going to the airport. Oh yeah,

2924
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 1: we ain't doing sh I'm off tomorrow are the rest

2925
02:13:42,360 --> 02:13:43,440
Speaker 1: of the week. I'm not doing shit.

2926
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 3: So enjoy your vacation, Luke, and your birthday number forty five?

2927
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:49,560
Speaker 1: Five? Yeah, forty five.

2928
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:51,480
Speaker 3: And what do you feel about joining forty five?

2929
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:57,160
Speaker 1: Not been my best year, not been my best year.

2930
02:13:58,920 --> 02:14:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm I'm just grateful to have my family

2931
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:05,160
Speaker 1: support me. Yeah, I'm going to leave it at that,

2932
02:14:05,640 --> 02:14:08,640
Speaker 1: damn right, and the and the support of MK nation.

2933
02:14:08,640 --> 02:14:09,480
Speaker 1: I should say, you're.

2934
02:14:09,320 --> 02:14:12,240
Speaker 3: Also damn right about that. So yeah, Luke, enjoy it unplugged.

2935
02:14:12,280 --> 02:14:16,800
Speaker 3: So next week program reminder, scheduling reminder, it'll be myself

2936
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 3: and Chuck Mindenhall in this chair.

2937
02:14:18,640 --> 02:14:20,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Big Chuck, Big Charlotte.

2938
02:14:20,480 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 3: So looking forward to Sir Charles back here the following week.

2939
02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:28,080
Speaker 3: Look week, Luke, you will return to it. We'll be

2940
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:28,880
Speaker 3: hearing from you then.

2941
02:14:28,920 --> 02:14:32,600
Speaker 1: I think I'll be calling in from from vacation. Columbia

2942
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:34,240
Speaker 1: from Colombia.

2943
02:14:34,720 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 3: What a great show today, regardless of anything else.

2944
02:14:37,560 --> 02:14:40,960
Speaker 1: Regardless not a word, but nevertheless or not correct use

2945
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,640
Speaker 1: of the English language at a bare minimum. But I

2946
02:14:43,680 --> 02:14:46,120
Speaker 1: will say that it was a great show today, Brian,

2947
02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:49,040
Speaker 1: don't take up, was fantastic. Thanks for our intrepid producer

2948
02:14:49,080 --> 02:14:49,960
Speaker 1: Matt for pulling that one.

2949
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:50,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2950
02:14:50,200 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 3: What about our our intrepid uh Australian sidekick Luke? Yeah?

2951
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:56,560
Speaker 1: Luke?

2952
02:14:56,840 --> 02:14:59,520
Speaker 3: Where people? Where can people listen to this mile high

2953
02:14:59,520 --> 02:14:59,880
Speaker 3: minute pod?

2954
02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:02,000
Speaker 17: Guess you got nine cartmen and on YouTube? Guys, we're

2955
02:15:02,040 --> 02:15:04,040
Speaker 17: like ten subs away from a thousand. Get me two

2956
02:15:04,040 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 17: a thousands on thousand. You can get monetized exactly.

2957
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:10,920
Speaker 3: Now, will you? Will you smoke the Mike Tyson hash

2958
02:15:11,720 --> 02:15:14,400
Speaker 3: smoker system? Yes, on the air during.

2959
02:15:14,160 --> 02:15:15,520
Speaker 1: The main card minute.

2960
02:15:15,560 --> 02:15:17,640
Speaker 5: So this weekend I'm doing PFL, I'm doing the boxing

2961
02:15:17,680 --> 02:15:18,240
Speaker 5: and the UFC.

2962
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:19,440
Speaker 1: I'll be taking dabs.

2963
02:15:19,440 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 5: I'll be taken by But to.

2964
02:15:20,600 --> 02:15:24,000
Speaker 3: Smoke dabs that that's like next level drugs, right, that's normal.

2965
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:27,600
Speaker 1: I think if you're still doing marijuana, it's not quite

2966
02:15:27,680 --> 02:15:31,920
Speaker 1: next level. Yeah, you gotta be falling over in public.

2967
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:36,920
Speaker 3: Wed with Botega. We missed that. Yeah, all right, hey,

2968
02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,000
Speaker 3: Long Island, look, thank you for being you, our great

2969
02:15:39,000 --> 02:15:41,760
Speaker 3: team and all that folks. Take care of yourself. Okay,

2970
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:43,600
Speaker 3: we'll see you when we see you next Monday.

2971
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:45,960
Speaker 1: Here live and direct guess. Thank you to all the

2972
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:47,560
Speaker 1: mk doks. A bunch of them reached out to me

2973
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 1: after Friday's calamity. But I'm okay, I'm very good and

2974
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:54,600
Speaker 1: for everyone who reached out, thank you. Guys really appreciate it.

2975
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to reply it to as many of

2976
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:57,080
Speaker 1: them as I can.

2977
02:15:57,160 --> 02:15:59,040
Speaker 3: But hey, we got good people out there, we do,

2978
02:15:59,080 --> 02:15:59,480
Speaker 3: we got.

2979
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:00,920
Speaker 1: Some We are very lucky. This is what I mean. Like,

2980
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:03,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we actually are pretty lucky,

2981
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:05,600
Speaker 1: and I do recognize that, and I'm very grateful for that.

2982
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:07,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try and have a couple weeks of

2983
02:16:07,160 --> 02:16:09,080
Speaker 1: vacation where it's not too stressful.

2984
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:11,040
Speaker 3: Use our promo code live ten if you want ten

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02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:15,560
Speaker 3: percent off our merch at Morning Combat Dot store for DraftKings,

2986
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:17,640
Speaker 3: for Metal Lark, for all our great people. It's been

2987
02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 3: Luke and BC like it'll always be okay, We're always

2988
02:16:20,840 --> 02:16:22,160
Speaker 3: just I mean, look, at the end of the day,

2989
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:24,720
Speaker 3: what is this show. It's a documentation of the up

2990
02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:27,560
Speaker 3: and downs, the growth of men in this life cycle.

2991
02:16:27,640 --> 02:16:28,320
Speaker 1: It's a community.

2992
02:16:28,320 --> 02:16:30,480
Speaker 3: It's not always pretty, Luke. It's a community, but we

2993
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:31,000
Speaker 3: will rise.

2994
02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:33,120
Speaker 1: It's also about two guys, not us, but two guys.

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Speaker 1: We have touch and decks. That's really what it's about,

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Speaker 1: all right, as.

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Speaker 3: Fighters, that's about all.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got left until you be loyalty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.