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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready

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Speaker 1: for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, November second, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number fifty two. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. Nick, this has become like this thing has

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Speaker 1: taken on a whole life of its own. I swear

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Speaker 1: this weekend I probably ran into two or three people

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Speaker 1: in the hotel alone that asked me what numbers show

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Speaker 1: are we on? Uh So, I think fans are kind

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Speaker 1: of digging this thing. I love how it took seventeen

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Speaker 1: years for you to figure out a gimmick to get

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Speaker 1: anyone but you to care about this, and now we're

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Speaker 1: there and people care, and Nick cared so much. You

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Speaker 1: didn't do it yesterday, Well you gave us one at

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Speaker 1: the end Alsherman Singleton, which is awesome. People on their toes,

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Speaker 1: make them wait, make them way through the whole show.

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Speaker 1: You got fifty two? Yeah, you know. Usually it's like

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a right answer, and then there's my answer. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think it's the same. I think Dexter Cole there,

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Speaker 1: Dexter Cokeley. He was a good player, man. I think

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Speaker 1: Connor's the only fifty two I've ever covered. Oh my guy,

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Speaker 1: actually I forgot. I'm sorry. Justin. I loved Justin Durant.

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Speaker 1: He he's big into music. I think he DJ's and

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Speaker 1: is just as a side hobby. The one player I

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Speaker 1: know that actually took time to go down on his

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Speaker 1: own and and go and just to ten south by Southwest,

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Speaker 1: which is a big conference out in Austin. It's like

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Speaker 1: tech and geek kind of stuff I used to like

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Speaker 1: on especially like Wow. Way back in the ancient days,

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Speaker 1: they used to even do available. They did player availability

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Speaker 1: on Mondays right after the game, which was like the

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Speaker 1: biggest waste of time, especially if they lost. Oh, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna find anybody in there, and even if they're

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Speaker 1: recommendations on Mondays just be like, what are you listening

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Speaker 1: to right now? And it was always good. You know

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Speaker 1: what I wish he would have done, But when Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers was rolling out on that third and sixteen in

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Speaker 1: the in the playoff game, I wish he kind of

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Speaker 1: would have, you know, just beat him to the punch

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Speaker 1: all stuff. Yeah, saying that's what I remembered here, fond

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Speaker 1: memories bringing that out. You know what, Dexter quickly did

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Speaker 1: games where people were watching like Thanksgiving, wasn't that Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, we go picksport two picks, one for a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: ends up going to the Pro Bowl. So when you

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Speaker 1: do it on the big stage, guys like Mica Parsons

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Speaker 1: know it could help Al Singleton or excuse me, Al

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Speaker 1: Johnson is my Johnson Johnson center right center, Wisconsin. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just so his like relatives don't email me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Davi Dwards was a really good linebacker back in the oil.

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Speaker 1: He really was sounds like you've gotten having emails in

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Speaker 1: the past from that family, you know. Um, But going

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Speaker 1: back to what I was saying about that with Pro

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Speaker 1: like they had zero last year. That way quite the reversal.

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. They're the most visible team in the league.

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Speaker 1: If they're good, they're gonna have Oh yeah, they're they're

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Speaker 1: We'll see what a safety does something you do say

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Speaker 1: your expert opinion on covering this team. Two weeks ago

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Speaker 1: something to talk about him, just like you're just you're

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Speaker 1: just being dak, You're just putting a confident face on

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Speaker 1: whatever's bothering you. Like those That's not the same to

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Speaker 1: team player, so whatever you're asking me to do, I'm

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Speaker 1: all in. I was. I was going to be there

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Speaker 1: November seventh when they take on that will be Broncos

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Speaker 1: team they have not beaten since nineteen ninety five. Really,

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Speaker 1: I can we retire? Can we? Like? I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about how when the last time they

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Speaker 1: beat an AFC team was? They only play him once

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Speaker 1: every four years? So how old were you in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety five, zero six or seven? Oh? I'm not that Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in New Orleans. The Saints were garbage

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Speaker 1: and my whole life until high school when Breeze got there.

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Speaker 1: I loved the Like when when when they got Torell

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Speaker 1: Davis and we're doing their thing. I love the Broncos

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Speaker 1: just like every other six year old bandwagon fan, not

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Speaker 1: Arld Davis killed him in ninety eight, two thousand and one,

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Speaker 1: two thousand one Thanksgiving. That was the game. That was

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Speaker 1: the That was the game that Dave Campo did not

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Speaker 1: go for two and they were down by they had

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Speaker 1: cut it to they were down like like sixteen. They're

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Speaker 1: down my sixteen and they scored and they made it.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that on the Bad Decision Dave and

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Speaker 1: this this older, older reporter said why didn't you go

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Speaker 1: for two? And he's like, well, because we didn't feel

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Speaker 1: like it was the right time to do that and

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Speaker 1: all that, and he was like, bad decision Dave was

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Speaker 1: a bad decision. He was like yeah, right in the

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Speaker 1: press car. And that became kind of a monster of

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Speaker 1: the media would say that regulate bad decision Dave his

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Speaker 1: entire tenure every time he has. I'm a bad decision,

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Speaker 1: But my friends say that to me on weekend nights, right,

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Speaker 1: bad decision days. This weekend nights, you a good point.

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Speaker 1: I was just trying to think. I mean, they haven't

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Speaker 1: beaten him. I mean Ron Dane killed him Thanksgiving. I

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Speaker 1: mean the best game was the Romoa game was so good.

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Speaker 1: People were killing Daniel Jones in the game. They just

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Speaker 1: played that. The Cowboys won. He got concussed by Jabril Cox,

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Speaker 1: which sucks for him. He's out for the year. I

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Speaker 1: feel terrible about that. But Jabril Cox stops him on

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Speaker 1: the naked boot and everybody was like, why would you

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Speaker 1: do that with your quarterback? You're putting him in danger.

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Speaker 1: I was like, no, I saw Peyton Manning do that

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Speaker 1: here a few years ago and it kicked ass. You're

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Speaker 1: the only one that saw it. Yeah, seriously, and the

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Speaker 1: Cowboy players. That's when I mean, look, I know, do

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Speaker 1: you think that that right there, that game, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is just Tony Romo's career in a nutshell, just the

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Speaker 1: entire game. Yes, yeah, I mean, I mean, you're you're

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Speaker 1: you're battling with like, you're flirting with greatness, with going

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Speaker 1: up against the goat greatness, you know, and you're you're

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Speaker 1: with them, you know, right then and then then like

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Speaker 1: here here it is. Here's your moment. Go down there.

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Speaker 1: You're sitting at like five hundred and six passing yards.

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Speaker 1: If you get your team and field goal range to win,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna probably pass to get there, and by passing

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Speaker 1: to get there, you're gonna set the NFL record for

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Speaker 1: passing yards in a game. It's like five to sixty

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Speaker 1: and you're sitting on the twenty yard line. You gotta

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Speaker 1: get down there. You're gonna do it. You're gonna win

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Speaker 1: fifty one to forty eight, and this is your moment.

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Speaker 1: And then you throw a pick after a phenomenal game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's his career two thousand and six. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: all that and then he almost is Now I mean

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Speaker 1: like that's ROBO's career. It's like it's like it's so

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Speaker 1: close to being great and then it wasn't because of you.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a documentary. Hey, And it's not that line.

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Speaker 1: It's the I mean maybe an agree to that I got.

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Speaker 1: Tell him you can approach it that way, you let

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Speaker 1: him see it with everybody else. What do you think?

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Speaker 1: It's the epitome of like those teams too, Like every

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Speaker 1: game of those years, Like the narrative could have swung

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Speaker 1: so wildly, Like if you beat Denver, you're three and two.

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Speaker 1: They won their next two games. So if you get

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Speaker 1: that win, now you're what. I can't do math. Now

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Speaker 1: you're five and two. You know, those teams never got

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Speaker 1: that far out ahead of their record ever, because you

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Speaker 1: throw a late game interception and now you're two and

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Speaker 1: three in your clawn just to try to get back

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Speaker 1: just enough to be interesting, but never could quite get there. Dave.

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Speaker 1: Dave knows this answer because of his forearm. Uh do

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Speaker 1: you remember who picked off Peyton Manning that day? I

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Speaker 1: had one interception I'm the answers sitting there for you.

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Speaker 1: He gave it away because it's like one of three

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Speaker 1: interceptions of his entire career. No, Claymorn was that, Yeah

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Speaker 1: he picked off Yeah, I picked off Peyton that day.

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Speaker 1: He only had three in his career. No, it was

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Speaker 1: probably more than that with the Jets. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: saw Diggs has more this year than he had any

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Speaker 1: he was at He was at Danny's. You know they're

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Speaker 1: they're very good, They're very good friend. Yeah, skinny skinny mo.

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Speaker 1: Skinny Mo? Is that what he is? Now? Hey, like

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Speaker 1: I've said a thousand times, you've heard me say it,

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Speaker 1: when players retire, they go one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: Good point, and he went the other way. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's yeah, let's get back to these injury Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love Tuesdays. Yes, know what, Helen, where it's gonna

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Speaker 1: go before getting an opportunity to see just kind of

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Speaker 1: what happens when we're just kind of sitting around just talking,

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00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: because that's exactly where it goes. It's all over the places.

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00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: It's just a random conversation. But let's talk about Tyren

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Speaker 1: Smith this angle ankle injury. Um, I'm I'm getting the impression.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing the look on your face. I'm getting the

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Speaker 1: impression that this is some thing that's a little more

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Speaker 1: than just he banged it and kind of day to

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Speaker 1: day type thing. Well, I'm a Mavericks fan, so I

554
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: don't like the word spurs anyway, But um kidding, because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of kum yeah now, but a bones

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Speaker 1: bur is that's what's what was revealed today. And you

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00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 1: know that's that's an injury that if it requires surgery.

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Speaker 1: If it requires surgery, then obviously that that's going to

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Speaker 1: take some time. But it's a pain injury. It's a

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Speaker 1: pain injury. And you know, you could tell Dave at

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00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: the game like it was very similar to New England,

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Speaker 1: except for the fact that he didn't run back onto

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Speaker 1: the field and play. I mean he was It's like

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Speaker 1: he's kind of walking around. I thought he'll get back

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Speaker 1: in there, and he didn't. I thought it was weird

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Speaker 1: because I yeah, you described it perfectly, but in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I was like the way like he was just walking

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Speaker 1: around slowly with this scowl on his face, and I

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Speaker 1: was like not holding his helmet when the offense was

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Speaker 1: on the field, he'd be down by the defense, just

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Speaker 1: kind of pacing around looking pissed off. And when the

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Speaker 1: offense was on the bench, he'd be standing there letting

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Speaker 1: the starters sit. And I was like, he doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like he's coming back. But and what I thought made

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00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: that weird was like, why don't you get out of

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Speaker 1: the thirty pounds of equipment you have to wear if

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Speaker 1: you're not going to come back. But I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe that's just a personal decision, like now, I'll deal

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Speaker 1: with that later, but it was, Yeah, it was curious

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Speaker 1: to me. So you got shocked in that game when

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Speaker 1: he was out that the Cowboys didn't decide to use

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins at tackle at one of those tackle positions. No,

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Speaker 1: and I talked about this this morning. It's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it. He I think he could do it.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't played. He was an amazing left tackle at LSU.

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Speaker 1: That was twenty fourteen. That's I mean, Romo was leading

587
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: them to the playoffs the last time Lyle played left tackle.

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Speaker 1: That's a long time. He didn't rep it in practice,

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00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: Tayan sec. He's been repping it since he's gotten back

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Speaker 1: from his injury. He played it all through training camp.

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Speaker 1: Think that makes sense, like not just throwing a guy

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Speaker 1: out there and asking him to do something he hasn't

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Speaker 1: done in almost so I'll take that one step further.

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Speaker 1: Knowing that this was something that went back to the

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Speaker 1: New England game with Tyron. Did the Cowboys waste a

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Speaker 1: week last week by having Lyle working at guard and

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00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: firsts having end full Well, that was actually a good idea,

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Speaker 1: But instead of having him working at tackle, knowing that

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Speaker 1: Tyron may be a little gimpy, I'm I don't know

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Speaker 1: that that's just that, I don't know. That feels like

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Speaker 1: a level of second guessing where I'm just like you

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Speaker 1: have Inseci. You probably want to give a guy who's

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Speaker 1: been out for five weeks like a very specific regimen

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Speaker 1: and not just will just asking him to do everything

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Speaker 1: at once. I think he should practice at left tackle

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Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, I absolutely think he should. You think

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Speaker 1: it left? You don't think but Steal at left. Here's

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Speaker 1: my issue with that, And I said this on the

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Speaker 1: mail bag. That sounds good to put Terrence Steal on

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Speaker 1: the left side. He's a little bit well, he's more Yeah,

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Speaker 1: left is typically more you're you're more agile player, and

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Speaker 1: he's Okay. Typically what worries me is Connor Williams and

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Speaker 1: Terence Steal together side. Because if I'm a defensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to and I've got a Randy Gregory type,

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Speaker 1: that's like just finding a spot where i can rush,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, let's go over here. I think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna just stay there overloading that side regularly. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: I and I think I'm real quick. I think Zach

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Speaker 1: Martin helps Terren Steele. We talked about that. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: helps him on that right, exactly right, Terrence. He's such

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Speaker 1: a cool success story. The Cowboys deserve credit for believing

622
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: in him when nobody else did all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's still a really young player. He played the left

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Speaker 1: tackle in training camp, but all of his work since

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00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: the season started has been at right. I just don't

626
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Speaker 1: think he's at the level where you want to be

627
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: flopping him around just like, oh, well you're hurt over

628
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Speaker 1: here and moving like, No, keep him where he's been good,

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Speaker 1: Keep him where he's got a Hall of Famer helping him.

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Speaker 1: Don't mess with a good thing, and honest, and I

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Speaker 1: said this on the radio this morning. Just let if

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Speaker 1: tyron camp go, which seems like a reasonable guess. Just

633
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Speaker 1: let Enseci and Lyle battle that thing out all week.

634
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Speaker 1: I mean, if if Enseci it gets the nod, whatever,

635
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: just let them wrap it out and see what looks best.

636
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: I like everything you're saying there, except for the part

637
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: about at some point, I don't know how this is

638
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: all gonna shake out, and maybe it never will, maybe

639
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be like this, but you know, at

640
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna need Terrence Steel I think, to

641
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: be the swing tackle. So, like you said, don't move

642
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: him back and forth. But if I want I want

643
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: a young guy to be a swing tackle, I mean,

644
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: then he needs to. But that's the work I want

645
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: to give him in training camp in the off season,

646
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: because that's about getting used to the idea that now

647
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: you're you're when you when you're your footwork on the

648
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: right side has to change on the left side. I

649
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do that in mid season. Like they said,

650
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: he's playing pretty good right now, I don't want to

651
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: mess with that. He kind of did though he was

652
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: at left left tackle. Now he's a right But making

653
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: that change in the middle of the season might be

654
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think I'm also McCarthy. Like,

655
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: McCarthy's not going to give anything away, but you can

656
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: find his likely answer in the context clusive what he says,

657
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: and he loves him some continuity. He is obsessed. He

658
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: brings it up a lot, the correlation between the combined

659
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: starts of your offensive line. How many starts are you

660
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: getting out of your five? How many times have they

661
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: played together? I haven't done the numbers myself, but he

662
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: insists that the correlation between that and success is remarkable.

663
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: So I think in a best case scenario, Mike McCarthy

664
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: probably wants to keep as many people as possible where

665
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, And Jerry said it on the radio

666
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: today too, He said, you don't want to move too,

667
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: you'd rather just move one to move two. So that

668
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: we have an answer on this. Yeah, Yeah, Lyle can

669
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: do it and hasn't done it in a long time.

670
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: Tie and Secky's been doing it. Let him just get it.

671
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Get out there on Wednesday and Thursday and see what

672
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: looks better. When somebody calls this afternoon from the trade

673
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: deadline and says, looks like you got a few tackles

674
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: over there, you just kind of hang up on them

675
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: or I politely say kick rocks. I wouldn't even say

676
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: it politely. I'd be like, nah, I'm good, We'll give

677
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: you a fifth. No, no, not right now, leave me

678
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: alone fifth and sec. What's more like, we're sitting here

679
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: talking about Tyron Smith not being available again. It sucks.

680
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: It's not his neck, by I just want to throw

681
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: that out there. It's not his neck. But this is

682
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: just this is it is what it is. Tyron Smith

683
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: is not I don't want to say he's not reliable

684
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: because he's such a tough player, but like you cannot

685
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: count on him to be in the lineup. That that

686
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: that is what it is. So why am I trying

687
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: to get rid of people who can help me weather

688
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: that problem with you? I'm not arguing with you. I'm

689
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: just you're six and one. In my opinion, from the

690
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: standpoint of how you look at at this trade deadline,

691
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: you're six and one. Don't do anything to disrupt what

692
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: you currently have unless you're getting something helps you right now. Now,

693
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: if you were trading, let's say they were saying, okay,

694
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: we will, we will give you some really great center

695
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: for tie and seki. Okay, now let's have a conversation,

696
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: or you look at a position where you actually can

697
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: upgrade your team by getting rid of something that you

698
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: think could be somewhat of a sour plus. Maybe you

699
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: talk about it there. But I'm not willing to give

700
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: up any assets right now for what can be a

701
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: draft pick down the road that doesn't help me right now.

702
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm a sixty one team. I'm trying to win right now, right,

703
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: and not to get cute, but I mean, the goal

704
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: here obviously is to play thirteen more games. Yeah, yeah,

705
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: ten and then you want to play three more. And

706
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: this team looks like somebody that you know, as good

707
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: as any other team in the league, has a chance

708
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: to play thirteen more games. And so I said this

709
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: on the radio too when when they were called, um,

710
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: they're talking about yesterday, would you do you know what?

711
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: Would you give Tony Pollard? Would you trade Tony Pollard

712
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 1: to somebody? They asked me that today's see. I laughed

713
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: in their face, right all the stupid once again? Would

714
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: you do about it? Would you do a first round

715
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: pick for Tony Pollard? Oh? Come on, that's what I said.

716
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: I said, it's got to be a first round sick now,

717
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: I actually I said it starts at a two, like

718
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I need. I would probably I said no to the two.

719
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: It's not just I said it starts with a two,

720
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: not just a two, but I need I need the

721
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: two and then maybe another two or a three whatever

722
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: you could make me an offer that I wouldn't be

723
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: able to say no too. But who's given all that

724
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: up for Tony Pollard R. I mean not even the

725
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: Titans already played their card. They went and signed Adrian Peterson.

726
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: Why would they give up a first round pick on

727
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: top of I mean, if you if you call it

728
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: and offered me at first, I don't that would be

729
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: hard to say no too. Yeah, unless it's one, especially

730
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: if any guy that's that's a backup type player, that

731
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: You're gonna offer me a one, and I'm definitely gonna

732
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: listen no matter what. But yeah, that's the point. They're

733
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: not gonna do that. But and it's not feasible that

734
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna get rid of it. The thing, the thing

735
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: that pisses me off about Pollard more than any is

736
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: like they play the most physical position in the game,

737
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 1: and Zeke's been very durable over his career, but like

738
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: he's one horse caller away from being away from being gone,

739
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: and they got nothing behind him. If if Tony Pollard's

740
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: not on this team, like they got the they have

741
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: the best duo in the league right now. But if

742
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: you get rid of that depth, like Rico Dowdle's not here,

743
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 1: they Clement cool Corey Clement. And as we've seen across

744
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: the league this last week, there are a lot of

745
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: teams whose fortune's changed with one player going down and

746
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: not And I running backs don't matter, And like we

747
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: talk about that in Tennessee, they do in Dallas too,

748
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: Like good running backs still make a difference, like even

749
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: even a good running team, Like everything that Lamar Jackson

750
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: does for the Ravens, they are different without Dobbins and Edwards,

751
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: like they like they're making do with replacement level players.

752
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like. Like guys with juice

753
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: do matter. Maybe we can get into the whole thing

754
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: about how much money you want to pay them, But

755
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: Zeken Pollard or such an asset to this team, I

756
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to mess with either one of them. I

757
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: can't think of a single guy because you start going

758
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: down at Liz people like Gallop and Collins and Steel

759
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: and even Jarwin guys that you're like, they're not starters,

760
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: would you consider I'm like, no, every single one of

761
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: them could play a role for you if you get

762
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: one injury. And that's where I'm like, on a team

763
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: like this, it's not worth it us. You look at

764
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: the safety position, it's a good example. At one point,

765
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: they're sitting there, like a few weeks ago, like we

766
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: got all these guys coming, you know that are banged up,

767
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: and I mean, they got all these guys, but like,

768
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do at safety? But they kind

769
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: of just worked themselves out. You know, Donovan Wilson comes

770
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: in and and I mean that he played a pretty

771
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: good game the other day as well. Kazy ironic, I

772
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: agree with you. That's two positions, which why would the

773
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys be trying to get rid of players right now? Again,

774
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: they're trying to low, they're trying to go far, but

775
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: safety and defensive end are two positions where I would

776
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: listen to that phone call, Like, I don't know who's

777
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: beaten down your door for Dorian's Armstrong or Malee Cooker,

778
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 1: but if somebody called about those guys, it's it's so

779
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: weird to say that they have the depth at safety

780
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: where they could do it. But they could. I'm not

781
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: saying that they should. I just wouldn't. Yeah, I just wouldn't.

782
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: I and I you're right, you listen, but but I

783
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: just I just feel like we all know the NFL,

784
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: and we know how how dangerous sport it is from

785
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: the standpoint of injuries and playing through injury and that

786
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Do I take the chance when you

787
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: got a team that has actually has depth in the

788
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: free agency error, an NFL team that actually has depth

789
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: at a lot of positions, why mess with that? I

790
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: want to be clear, I would I don't understand why

791
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: they would want to trade away really anybody on this

792
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: team right now. That's what they've got going. I think

793
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: the only move that is made today is if is

794
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: if somebody's looking to get rid of a veteran contract,

795
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's going to be in his

796
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: last year of his deal and so they're probably not

797
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: resigning him, so they see if they can get something

798
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: for him, and he comes in and he can you know,

799
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: like like like a von Miller type of move, which

800
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: type of move like that? I could see that I

801
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: would have been only I would have done the Melvin

802
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: Ingram deal for sure. You saw it. You see that. Yeah,

803
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: I would have considered Elvan. Yeah. Yeah. They gave up

804
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: a sixth rounder. The Chiefs gave up a sixth rounder

805
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: to get him from Pittsburgh, which which that's that's the

806
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: on a deal that you talk about all the time.

807
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: Give up a late round pick, which you know he's

808
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: he's older. Now he's got one sack. I don't know

809
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: if he's the same guy that was so great in

810
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: LA for San Diego where whatever you want to call him. Um,

811
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: it's like it's a sixth round pick. Yeah, probably throw

812
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: that on the table. I don't do the von Miller deal. No,

813
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't give up a two and a three for

814
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: a guy at that age with on the last year

815
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: of his deal. I'm just not willing to do that. Yeah,

816
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: where a guard center, you know like that. I mean

817
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about that type of guy, a guy that's

818
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: maybe been to a Pro Bowl or whatever. But the

819
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: thing is is he got You talked about continuity with McCarthy.

820
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: I mean, guy's gonna come in now. If you get

821
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: a veteran like that, obviously he should be able to

822
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: mesh quickly quickly. But I don't. I don't know, and

823
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: then a corner I could see that maybe, but you know,

824
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: just for you for your depth. But I mean like

825
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: it or not. I mean, Anthony Brown's playing pretty well.

826
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: They like what they're gonna get back. They're getting with

827
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph. That's the fun like every and that I mean,

828
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: and that's what they keep saying, which is why I

829
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: don't expect anything to happen. Is uh, you know, I

830
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: just mentioned Ingram, but it's even it's hard to find

831
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: a place for him. Basham just had his best game.

832
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 1: Armstrong's back tank is on the horizon. Mirandy's obviously killing it.

833
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Like it you could make it work if they had

834
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: done that meal but but yeah, they got bodies there.

835
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 1: Kelvin Joseph all of a sudden gives you a fourth

836
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: corner that you hope can kind of wrote like mix

837
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: in and maybe get some additional playing time. So even

838
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: the positions of need, they're getting guys back that can

839
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: help them with that not not center up. It would

840
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: have to be a guy, and it wouldn't be like

841
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper, but it would have to be somebody

842
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: to make a trade. It's somebody like, Okay, they're looking

843
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: they're not going to resign him, but we probably will,

844
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: Like we are going to resign this this guy. We

845
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: we see him in the in the future. And where

846
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: where's a spot where you would do that? I mean,

847
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: they like be honest, I mean, I'm just at center.

848
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: They like him in a guard maybe I'm I don't know.

849
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Connor Williams is probably not coming back, I'm guessing.

850
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: And so that's the position where if you're looking at

851
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: a position, everything lines up to where but if you

852
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: have the right opportunity, maybe it makes it. If I'm

853
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: another team in the league, you know, when he goes

854
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: to free agency, I would probably look at him at

855
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: center or tackle. I just don't think he's the guard.

856
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: I think he's a center or a tackle. Um, he's

857
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: got athleticism, he's just the strength is just that's where

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Speaker 1: the problem is is that's where he gets those holds

859
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: because he gets with somebody that's just a little bit.

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00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: I think I think he could be a tackle, honestly,

861
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 1: or maybe even a center. All right, we're gonna take

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908
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: von Diggs. He also had an ankle I think it is.

909
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: Where is he as far as the status of his

910
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: ability to play this week? I'm fine, That's what he said.

911
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: That's what he said. I'm fine. He didn't. I did

912
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: notice after he finished interviewing with you after the game.

913
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: Uh Me and Clarence Hill were standing outside a couple

914
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: other media people came out of the press conference and

915
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: and we were watching him, and he turned and he

916
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 1: walked away. Didn't seem to have a limp, no boot,

917
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: nothing like that. So the assumption was maybe he's all right,

918
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: but obviously you know, actually, when Mac watched the play,

919
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the fans have as well, it was

920
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: it was like the third to last play of the game,

921
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: and he didn't Nice drop him and somebody else got

922
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: not mane a tackle right on the sideline there to

923
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: kept it going um and he got just kicked. It

924
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: wasn't like a cat caught underneath. He was like somebody

925
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: like kicked his ankle. He's a just shooting pain. He

926
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: limped off, but you know that it was more like

927
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: a bruise. It's fun but I will say this is funny.

928
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: I was on the sideline and I looked over and

929
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: it was big play because Mike's are trying to get

930
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: out of bounds and the Cowboys got him right before.

931
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: And I looked back and there's a ton of Cowboy fans.

932
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: Everyone knows he could hear it. Cowboy fans, you could.

933
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: I just wish you could have seen how many people

934
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: in the stands were doing the winded up sign of

935
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: like keep like the refs will do when the clock

936
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: is going. There were a ton of fans doing that.

937
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: It was just kind of funny, like all these referees

938
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: in the stands like knowing that rule and doing it,

939
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: and everyone on the Cowboys sideline was doing it. It

940
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: was it was without a doubt, and this is just

941
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: how great the Cowboys season is, without a doubt. The

942
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: biggest crowd I've ever seen in Minnesota. Yeah, that's one

943
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: of those cities. It's very similar to Kansas City in

944
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: my opinion, it's one of those cities where they do

945
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: a good job of maintaining their home field advantage. With

946
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: regards of their fans, it's not a lot of You

947
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: don't see a lot of extra fans that are not.

948
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans is another one. You don't see a lot

949
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: of the other team's fans. Like they have a way

950
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: of kind of maintaining control of their environment for the

951
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: most part. You know, I was, I mean, we're used

952
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: to this Cowboy fans takeover FedEx, Phoenix, Miami, where you

953
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: name it, they do it. But a lot of places

954
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: I was blown away. And it's one like when when

955
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: Cooper makes a catch, it's that's obvious because everybody knows

956
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: to go cool, like that's cool. But when Zeke trucked

957
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: those guys to pick up the third and eleven, I

958
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: looked up from my laptop. I was like, are we

959
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: in Arlington right now? And by the way, in this stadium,

960
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: obviously we have access. There's no glass separating us. We

961
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: can actually hear the crowd. Yeah, and yeah, you could

962
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: tell Cowboys fans were erupting in moments where Cowboys like

963
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: things erupting, like the whole building is like freaking out

964
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys made a good play. Like I was stunned.

965
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: And that's like I said, I know that this happens,

966
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: but I wasn't ready for it. I put it on Twitter.

967
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: I have that video of Shannon actually took the video

968
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: of Cooper catching the touchdown. Of course, I'm you know,

969
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: standing right there in the corner and knowing that I'm

970
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: the cameras on so I'm trying to like play it

971
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: cool and you know, but really, more of all I'm

972
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: thinking of it is, Okay, there's fifty one seconds left,

973
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of football left. I'm thinking probably

974
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: in my in my head, I'm thinking Dave's probably up

975
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: there going you left too much time, too much time

976
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: on the club. I actually so, but real quick before

977
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: you get to that point. I was just like everybody

978
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: that responded the on Twitter about that is like I

979
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: can't believe that loud it was when he caught the

980
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: game winner for a minute to go. H No, I

981
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: was just I tweeted this when it happened, like, if

982
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: DA's your quarterback, then that was stupid, like I just

983
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: you trust your quarterback. I would play it differently. I

984
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: would try to bleed clock. You trust a guy that's

985
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: playing at an MVP level, Cooper Rush, just scredown. You

986
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: just score the touchdown, take the lead. And by the way,

987
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: the defense have been playing their butts. And yeah, I

988
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: do not put Kirk Cousins in the Brady Rogers class

989
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: where you're like out, yeah, I mean, you're screwed. You

990
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: too much time. When I saw fifty one seconds, I

991
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: was like, kylways won this game because I again, yeah,

992
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: because again, I don't go. I don't put I don't

993
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: put Kirk Cousins in that category. Like now, if it

994
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: was one of those quarterbacks that that just well, but no,

995
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: and here's the other thing. If it would have been

996
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: for a field goal, I would have been like, Okay,

997
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a problem. It need they needed

998
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: to drive the field and get a touchdown. They hadn't

999
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: done that since the first quarter. But there was trusting.

1000
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: There were seven people against them, and I don't't say

1001
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: it like that. Yeah, no, I'm not a bit like that.

1002
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 1: But but it's a little bit much. It's a little strong.

1003
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: It's not against them, But but I mean it is

1004
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: a it was a flag happy crew, and yeah, and

1005
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: so all it takes. All I thought about was the

1006
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen game against the Raiders when they took a

1007
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: lead like that and it was like a sixty five

1008
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: yard pass interference penalty to get down there. All it

1009
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: takes is something crazy like that. Jefferson's gotta beat, he stops,

1010
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown runs into him. Flag. Next thing you know,

1011
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: you're on the thirty five and you're throwing. I get that.

1012
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: I just didn't trust. I didn't trust him to get

1013
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: them down for a touchdown. If it would have been

1014
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: a field goal, been completely different. Yea. I didn't expect

1015
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: no time that ever again, not that I did this time,

1016
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: but I mean, we might see him again in the playoffs.

1017
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm not buying into him anymore. And remember they couldn't

1018
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: even halftime. They couldn't even manage halftime. They didn't manage

1019
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: half time. They certainly blew that. And I think you're right, Chris,

1020
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: I think that they thought three points. Cowboys got three points.

1021
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: We're up ten three. Wait, what's Scooper Rush gonna do?

1022
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: Come out in the third quarter on third By the way,

1023
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: he hadn't done anything. He had not done anything up

1024
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: until that point. And I really think halftime, I think

1025
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: Kellen decided, look, if we're gonna win this game, we

1026
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: gotta turn him a loose and whatever happens happens, but

1027
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: we gotta turn loose. I had seventeen passes at halftime,

1028
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: ended with forty one. Go go back and look or

1029
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: go go look at the score by quarters for this season.

1030
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: It's you know, Cowboys had pretty much leading just about

1031
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: every quarters. Third quarter. They kick people's ass in the

1032
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: third quarter. It's a credit to Kellen Moore, It's a

1033
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: credit to Dayan Quinn. They I mean, I know you

1034
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: think halftime adjustments are over rated or think you've said that. Well,

1035
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: I just think you don't have a lot of time.

1036
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't happen at halftime. It's like both bands happen

1037
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: in high school. It happen minute constantly throughout the game.

1038
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 1: Like by the time they all get down there and

1039
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: get into the locker room, they've probably got three and

1040
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: a half minutes before they got to go back out.

1041
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: Why why do you think, I mean, why do you

1042
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: why do we think the third quarter has been been

1043
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: good for I don't know if I agree with that completely, Dave.

1044
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: I do think at halftime sometimes again, especially if you're

1045
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators up in the box, I do think there

1046
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: is a moment for the coach to talk to his

1047
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: coordinators and say, Okay, we're gonna strategically do more of this,

1048
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: do less of this. I just think let's try to

1049
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: see if we can incorporate this more because this is

1050
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: what we're seeing. By the time the third quarter starts,

1051
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: I just think you've got a pretty complete data set

1052
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: of what they're trying to do and what you think

1053
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Speaker 1: true can do. Yes, it matters, of course it matters.

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Speaker 1: All I'm saying is like, there's not just this grand

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Speaker 1: scene from a movie where McCarthy comes onto the whiteboard

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Speaker 1: in the locker room. He's like, all right, listen up,

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Speaker 1: they've been doing this, and we're gonna do that, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go out. We're gonna kicked. Like that doesn't

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Speaker 1: have it. See that doesn't happen. They go, they huddle

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Speaker 1: in their position groups and they're like, Okay, we're seeing

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Speaker 1: a lot of quarters here in this down in this distance.

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Speaker 1: We here's how we're gonna These are our beaters for

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Speaker 1: this like, that's half time. Those that half it happens

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter two. I get that. I get that.

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Speaker 1: I do think though, at halftime, that's when everything stops

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Speaker 1: for a minute. You're doing that all that stuff during

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Speaker 1: the game there are bullets flying everywhere. I think that's

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Speaker 1: when it stops for a moment and everybody can say, Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: here's the overall. Here's what we were talking about a

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Speaker 1: little bit in the first quarter, second quarter. Here's how

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Speaker 1: we're gonna handle this the rest of the scene. I've

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Speaker 1: seen it happen in the middle of a game. You

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Speaker 1: completely make a change to your defensive scheme in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the game. Coach jos brought brought team over.

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Speaker 1: I felt so hard for that. Jones was like the

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Speaker 1: storytime we give up a great all night. That's right happen.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I felt. I felt for that hooklient

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Speaker 1: and sinker. No. I was gonna make Oh no, it's

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Speaker 1: funny you brought that up. I wound up next to

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Speaker 1: a family of Vikings fans. I guess, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: they're from up there or whatever, but they were flying

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Speaker 1: back here with me. So I was on the airport

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Speaker 1: shuttle with them, and this grumpy Vikings fan was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're we're like the highest scoring offense in

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Speaker 1: the NFL in the first quarter and we're thirtieth in

1086
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Speaker 1: the second half. I was just like, yikes, I mean

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Speaker 1: that that sucks. That played out on Sunday night like that.

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Speaker 1: I was just like, man, it sucks to be all

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Speaker 1: sorry about it sucks. All right, Well, appreciate you guys, Johns.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow. We're gonna start getting into this

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Speaker 1: next game, Cowboys versus Broncos. They will be without Von Miller,

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Speaker 1: so that makes it a a little easier. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow. We'll talk about the Broncos offense versus the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. Till then. For Dave Hellman, Nicki ben On,

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton, This has been The Break live on Dallas

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