WEBVTT - Wrong Target! The SAVE Act Won’t Save Us | Angela Rye SoloPod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.280 Native Lampid is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:04.720 with Reisent Choice Media. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:08.360 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:13.119 Welcome, Welcome home everyone. This is Native Lampot. It's my 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:16.560 solo pod day, and I'm thrilled because you all will 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:21.239 get a window into the soul of my relationship. 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:22.439 With my good brother and friend. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.680 I always call him my big little brother because he 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.040 thinks he's the boss of me, and I let him 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:28.440 do it because he's so brilliant. 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:30.640 I'm such an awesome strategist. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.920 A peacemaker guy says, blessed are the peacemakers, and he 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.040 is one of them. He is the executive director of 0:00:37.159 --> 0:00:41.000 the Congressional Black Caucus. Vincent Evans is joining us today. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:47.839 Hello Vincent, Hello Angela Raie. I'm so glad you joined me. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.120 We have been laboring for and with the people. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:52.960 All week. 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:55.960 It sounds like we may have a sound issue. I 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:58.520 don't think Vince can hear us. Vince, can you hear me? 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:00.960 I can hear you now, I could hear you. 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.440 Okay, So I think we're still live. So we're just 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.360 gonna go ahead and keep rowing. This is the hood 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.520 Welcome to Native Lampard The Hood Edition. 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.319 I don't know what's going on all right. I blame 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:16.160 mercury being a retrogravance. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.559 But I'm so glad that you're here with me today, 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.679 in part because in so many ways, you know, we're 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:24.000 always working together. We don't get paid to work together, 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.679 but we are always going to do work for the culture. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:30.560 And one thing that's just been heavy on my spirit is, 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:36.160 you know, watching the fallout from Target. One thing that 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.640 I love about our friendship, our relationship and so many 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.080 of our comrades is we have an agreement not to 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:42.759 do harm. 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:44.960 And I think it's so important. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:49.520 Even we disagree vehemently on tactics, vehemently on time, vehemently 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.600 on what the end goal might be, it is so 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.120 important that we as a community agree not to do harm. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:58.279 And the number of hits that I'm watching our people 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.480 take who we're just trying to do something, Vince, Like 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.760 whether we agree on whether the thing should end, what 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.320 the thing should be called, who's doing it, who's leading why? 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:12.160 Like we just should commend the fact that people wanted 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.600 to do something. Now, the thing I wanted to flag 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.960 for you, Vince, is has Target said anything yet perfect. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:25.119 But guess what, we all mad at each other? 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:25.840 Why? 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.520 Vin, This is the trick of the devil. It's a distraction. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.480 So I just I wanted you to be. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.040 Here as my brother and my friend, to remind us 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.200 all the most important thing that in times like this, 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:39.160 as difficult as it may be, it is most important 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:41.800 that we stick together. Then we figure out our path 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.760 and we remember who the actual boogeyman is. The boogeyman 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.320 is not just Target, it's everybody that thinks like target. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:52.079 It is the folks who sit in corporate boardrooms who 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.840 are ending DEI saying we belong what are we belonging to? 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.560 Friends? What are we belonging to? Two friends? And Vince? 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.000 That goes all the way to the ballot box. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:05.040 So today you and I are talking about the Save Act, Yes, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.240 and I want to talk about that because it's the 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.920 mentality that is it's a mentality that is pervasive throughout 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.560 all of these corporations, throughout all of the cabinets, the 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.320 cabinet secretaries, all of these agencies and departments run by 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.320 the federal government, sadly all across states throughout this country. 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.240 The ones that have been putting forth voter suppression measures, 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.280 as you know since twenty ten. So Vince, let's back 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:32.280 right into this talk to us about what the Save 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:33.120 Act is. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:38.760 Well, I don't know. I see it as a law 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.200 that is all about voter suppression. I don't know what 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.280 the other folks out there who are pushing it seed. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.640 As you know, the first thing I say is whenever 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.640 a bill's title is save America, that is a red 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.600 like what are we saving America from? We need to 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.760 save America from the people who are pushing this law. Look, 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.400 this is nothing more than as we first so many 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.560 leaders say, Jim Crow two point zero, it is a 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:08.440 bill that is designed to prevent people from casting their ballet. 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.960 You and I know that the franchise, the right to 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.920 vote is the most sacred things we have, and this 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:19.960 bill is set to ensure that people who get up 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:21.839 every day, go to work every day, and want to 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:26.039 have an opportunity to engage in their democracy, want to 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:29.400 have an opportunity to vote for people who they believe 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.920 are pushing forward the issues that are important to them, 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:34.760 that they don't have that opportunity. So that is at 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.200 its core what the Save Act is. I don't care 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.440 what anybody tells you it's a bad piece of legislation, 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.880 it should not being acted, and it will do more 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:43.680 harm than good. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:45.680 And I think this is the part right. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:51.640 So we know that this bill passed the House last year, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.000 and then the Senate received this bill from the House, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.359 of course, which is how this normally goes. It passed 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:04.000 very narrow, with two hundred and twenty votes to two 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.680 hundred and eight votes. And I wonder what you think 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:09.720 is going to happen in the Senate. I think it's 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.919 important people to understand it is on the Senate floor 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.600 this week, starting today. This is the Safeguard American Voter 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:17.919 Eligibility Act. 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:19.920 So, Vince, what do you think is going to happen 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:20.440 in the Senate? 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:21.640 Well, we'll see. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.159 The Senate I think started debating this within the last 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:27.320 couple of hours or a set to. We'll see about 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.640 the debate this week. What we do know is this, 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.040 the Save America Act, as the so called Save America Act, 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.839 is going to make it harder and more difficult for 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.280 people to be able to cast their valid If you're 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.560 a woman who's ever changed your name, which a lot 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.839 of women who have been married have done, it's going 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.080 to make it almost impossible. If you're an individual who 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:50.279 does not have access to a passport, and you've got 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.200 to now either go buy a passport, or you've got 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.120 to go get your driver's license per plus or birth certificate. 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.760 That's not always easy for folks. There are a lot 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.280 of hurdles. If you're a college student who's ever moved 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.120 away from home to go to college and has a 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.320 new address, it's going to make it more difficult, difficult 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.680 for you. So there are a whole class of groups 0:06:09.680 --> 0:06:12.720 of individuals out there across the country who would be impacted. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.120 And you know, the Republicans are saying that this is 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:21.040 going to ensure that there are no non citizens voting 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.400 in American election. Here's the facts. We all know the facts. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.359 You know the facts, Angela, I know the fact. Everybody 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:32.440 knows the facts. There is not widespread fraud in our 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:33.520 elections today. 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:34.760 There just isn't. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.040 Every single audit and study out there has come back 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.880 and said the same thing. The amount of non citizens 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.160 voting in American elections is like er point zero zero 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:49.479 zero one percent. It's small, it's negligible. And the fact 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.359 of the matter is this, it is already illegal in 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.279 this country for non citizen to vote. So this is 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.440 nothing more of the say back is nothing more than 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.240 a stoke called set of solutions in search of a problem. 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:03.000 That's it. 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:07.000 And they've been saying that same phrase since the first 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.360 version of voter ID bills, since the first version of 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:16.480 voter ID bills, more than one hundred past House I'm sorry, 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.680 state based legislatures starting in twenty ten and twenty eleven. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.880 And what I think is so important for our audience 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:28.360 to know, Vince, is that all of this changed after 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:29.280 two thousand and eight. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:30.400 What happened in two. 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.960 Thousand and eight, What happened? What happened? What happened? You 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.760 know what happened. I know what happened. I know about president. 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.480 And they said, you know, this whole idea about bipartisan 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.880 voting rights, Hell with that. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.280 Actually, we don't want to see this happen anymore. 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.920 And so what used to be the Voting Rights Reauthorization 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:52.160 Act every Congress that would pass overwhelmingly with both sides 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.640 of the House supporting, All of a sudden, it became 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:57.600 a democratic idea all of a sudden, voting fraud. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:07:59.640 Voter fraud was an issue, all of a sudden. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.280 People need needed to be ID in the voting booth, 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.000 and these voter ID measures have become even more restrictive 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.800 because what they're saying now is that your license is 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:13.200 not sufficient. Let's roll this clip from Representative Teresa Fernandez, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.720 who represents New Mexico's third congressional district. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.080 Can you take out your driver's license? Mister Scott has 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.800 his out. If you took your years out, I'm looking 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:27.000 at mine. What we're talking about here is does your 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.320 driver's license tell us where you were born? It does not? 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.360 Does it? 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.400 No, mister Scott, youwards doesn't either. Because what we're talking 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:41.920 about is registration. You cannot use this ID to register 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.360 to vote under your bill? 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.920 Is that correct? You could not use your ID? 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.559 That would be an accurate sayment, Chairman Styles, Do you 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:50.280 have a passport? 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.080 I personally, do you do have a pass pas? Part 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.680 of the rough Americans? 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.880 You're roughly fifty percent of Americans have a passport. Because 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:04.120 you try, about fifty percent of Americans don't travel internationally. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:05.920 They don't have that money. Is that right? 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.080 One of the reasons you have to have a certain 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.800 amount of money to be able to travel internationally. To 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.199 get that passport, to pay for that passport. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:14.840 Is that correct? 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.080 There is a charge there. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.320 There is a test passport. Twenty point twenty one point 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:24.720 three million American citizens a vote in age don't have 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:29.280 ready access to citizenship documents. This is ready access. We 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.199 already discussed earlier the fact that this bill. You have 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.240 changed the enactment day of this bill to go infect 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.880 as soon as it is signed into law. And if 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:44.199 that happens, then this twenty one point three million American 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:51.439 citizens who might not be prepared for a future in 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.680 a few weeks. In terms of Texas, who might want 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.720 to They're excited about the race, they're excited about the 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.760 Republicans senators who are wanting to at each other. I'm 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.600 battling it out. They're excited about the Democrat primaries. They 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.760 want to get involved, they want to register to vote. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.920 They might be on one of the twenty one point 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:15.319 three million Americans who don't have ready access to citizenship documents. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:20.480 That's what we are concerned about, is that by rushing 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:25.400 this into law, you were going to prevent so many 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.480 people from being able to register to vote. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.439 And that's been acceptable. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.160 When you say how many immigrants are too many voting? 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:34.160 I would ask. 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:38.319 I'd flip the question and ask you how many eligible 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:43.120 citizens are you worried about being turned away because you 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.000 were rushing something like this into law. 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:46.319 You care. 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.040 So good now viz. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.120 Twenty one point three million Americans, and I think that's 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:54.599 probably really conservative. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:56.440 I want to give you this one example. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:02.000 So my mom was renewing her passport and something came 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:08.000 up where she like however her birth certificate was initially written, 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:11.040 it wasn't going to work. And the reason why it 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.640 wasn't going to work for her to get her passport 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.400 again is because her they had inverted her middle name 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:21.040 and her so her middle name was first, her her 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.080 first name was her middle name. That for whatever reason, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.200 it was fine the first time she was getting her passport. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:28.920 The second reason the second time it wasn't. So we're 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.240 not considering the people who may be going back to, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.720 you know, get a passport again their passports York expiration. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:37.680 Normally they tell you six months out it's time to 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.320 get a new passport, and Vince, we're also not thinking 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.120 about the people who are terrified to go to this 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:50.880 Department of State under this authoritarian regime, worried that if 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.520 they bring a passport to get renewed, that they may 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.000 not get the thing back and be stuck here or 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.000 be told they're not a citizen if they don't have 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.640 the proper documentation. The other thing that I think is 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.679 as jarring is I don't think folks realize for our 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.920 elders in the South who are eighty and older. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.080 In certain parts of the South and real parts of 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:09.760 the South. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.240 The birth certificates don't even match the standards for what 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.360 you need to be able to get your passport. Vince, 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.040 I have a copy now of my Social Security card. 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.840 I don't know where the real one is. My mama 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.400 didn't trust me with it. So how long does it 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.160 take to get a Social Security card under this regime? 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:29.760 That's exactly right, Do you know what I mean? Yep. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.760 There are a number of hurdles that they could throw 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.000 up at any point. I used to work for someone 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.760 who because of the year they were born and where 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.920 they were born in the rural part of my state 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:43.360 in Florida, it was unclear whether the birth certificate they 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.719 had because it was written down in a bible. That's 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.240 how they actually found out when they were born. It 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:51.559 was unclear when they went to get documents. They always 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.720 had troubble making certain that it couldn't get verified, and 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.040 they had to go to this lineage process. It was 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.600 rife with complications. There are so many to the point 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.520 that you just made, particularly in the South, but frankly 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.920 across the country who have similar stories, who have similar 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:09.679 stories like that of your mom, who even if they 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:12.960 are all well intended, they do everything, they are waiting 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.440 at the mercy of the government to give them the 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:18.079 things that they would need. So if the Department of 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.319 State or or agencies across the government said, well, you know, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.720 we're gonna get it to you, but we're not gonna 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.040 get it in time for you to vote, that obviously 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:29.640 presents a problem. And again, like the congresswoman said, they're 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.720 trying to do this before the November elections. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.120 Why why would you need to rush it so fast? 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.320 And that's the thing too. 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.360 My biggest concern is because Donald Trump would like to 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.439 sign an executive order where he federalizes these midterm elections, 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.360 to federalizes elections period. He would then have all the 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.439 power if the Supreme Court doesn't do the right thing. 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.080 And it's a fifty to fifty, maybe a sixty forty 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:56.360 if they'll do the right thing or not. If they 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.320 don't take action, then that means all of that power 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.000 and control all of his. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.920 Cabinet and go to all of the departments. That is scary. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:11.679 He has made clear in recent days that this is 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.680 his number one priority. The President of the United States 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.719 of America has said he will not sign anymore legislation 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.760 until he gets the Safe Act to his debt. And 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.760 as you know, Angela, this is bigger than just one bill. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.120 This is about to your earlier point, who was elected 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.640 in two thousand and eight, what we've seen since then 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.040 shall be the older gutting Section five of the Voting 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.760 Rights ACK. Now Section two of the Voting Rights ACK 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.760 is being considered before the United States Supreme Court. We'll 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.280 get a ruling, hopefully here in June. I'm worried about 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.800 what that ruling will say. And all of this is 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.400 an attempt to roll back progress that we've made. It's 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:50.400 all calculated, it's all been thought out, no question about it. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.120 This is just another step and what they've told us 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:54.240 they were going to do. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.320 There's a video that I want you to see from 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.960 Queen Latifa, and she says something that many of us 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.120 say often, but I think it's important for us to 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.080 remember it in this particular moment. 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:13.920 Let's roll that clip. 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.480 Well, if the vote wasn't worth something, they wouldn't be 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:26.240 trying to keep you from voting. So I feel the 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:30.680 same way about womanhood. If we weren't so powerful, there 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:31.280 wouldn't be. 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.280 Such a push to keep us in a place. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.360 I think that's important too right now, Vince, because one 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:44.880 of the key groups, key constituencies that will be impacted 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.440 by the Save Act, by Make Elections Great Again. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:53.360 Act are women. And what's crazy about it is, what's. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.120 The percentage of women that voted for Donald Trump? 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:55.600 White women? 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.120 Yeah, I bet you hadn't see this coming. 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.720 Yeah, it's gonna hurt their own voters. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.520 This isn't a bill that's going to affect Democratic women 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.560 or black women. It's going to hurt their voters. I 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.680 think I heard members say earlier today that the top 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:14.120 ten states of individuals who do not have passport are 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.080 what we call quote unquote red states. So this will 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.080 hurt their own voters, no question about it. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.080 It blows me away. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.200 I got to say that one of the things that 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.840 I'm hoping for is that people will find the energy 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:31.040 to reach out to the senator, their senators. I know 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.800 it's really hard, and I'm saying this as someone who 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.280 worked on the hill who has struggled to see the 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:42.240 impacts of the calls we're making, have making a difference, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:46.320 because the Republican senators are so terrified of Donald Trump 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.160 that they're not seeming to do the right thing. So 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:52.320 what is the thing that you would recommend, you know, 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.640 Joe blow from down the street, or remember Joe the 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.800 plumber would what would you tell Joe the plumber to do? 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.280 What about let me think of John Tay, John Tata plumber. 0:17:01.440 --> 0:17:03.040 What would you tell him to do if he was 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.520 making that call to his senator? 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:04.719 Ben. 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.040 Look, I think all of us have to pick up 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:12.280 the phone on this one to call lawmakers and tell 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:16.440 our very own lived experience. But we saw what two 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:21.919 or three two days ago, and Dallas is unacceptable. I 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.800 was so struck by the people who were going into 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.120 the polls, trying to cast a ballot, trying to do 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.120 the right thing, walking out and being told that they 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.399 could not. That is not an anomaly in this country, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.280 to be clear, even without the say back, we already 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:42.119 have voter suppression in this country. Hundreds of bills have 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.680 been passed over the last couple of years in state 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.720 legislatures across this country, as you rightly point out, that 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:50.720 are already making it more difficult for people to vote. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:53.160 So folks just have to call and tell their own 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.720 real experience. This is one of those times where we 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.280 probably all have our own experience at the voting boot 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.040 where we show rowed up something wasn't right. We were 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.720 told one thing, it was really another thing. So folks 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:07.879 really should that. There are a lot of times we 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.480 tell people to call their legislation. This is one where 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.479 you've got a personal story, you can pull it up 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.959 really quickly and tell people how it would directly affect you. 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:19.919 It's so important, and Vince, I'm so grateful for you 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.840 taking the time today to come and explain this. I 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:28.080 do worry that this bill may pass the Senate, and 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.680 I'm concerned, based on what we saw. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:35.440 With the big hella ugly bill, that people. 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.560 Just lack courage in this moment, and so I want 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.280 us to also not just call, but for those of 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.560 us who pray and our spiritual people like believe that 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:48.520 something bigger and greater can happen. Especially, my heart goes 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.640 out to these tsos, the TSA workers who are at 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:53.440 work right now. 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:54.680 When I was. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.320 Traveling just this past week, Vince, I told I, try 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.399 to make it a point to tell them. Sadly, I've 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:00.840 had to do it a lot lately because it's been 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.600 shut down after shut down after thak So. I told him, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.440 I said, I just want to thank you all for working. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.760 I know you don't have to. And one of them, 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:10.800 the gentleman, looked at me and he said, I'm not 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.960 going to be here much longer. I just can't afford 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:14.840 to work and not be paid. I have to go 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.000 make money to pay my bills. So when you see one, 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.719 you know, give him a love offering, and give him 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:21.520 a love offering. 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:22.640 Don't just say thank you. 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.199 Maybe you got an extra hundred dollars in your passion, 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.439 an extra twenty like we need to be loving on 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:27.920 these folks. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:29.680 Should it be our responsibility? 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:30.360 No? 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.080 But is it? Absolutely? 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.160 Because we have an irresponsible president in the White House, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:42.560 and I just you know, he's a He regularly is 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.439 engaging in a dere election of duty, and sadly, his 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.560 cabinet is a bunch of yes folks. Who will not 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:49.920 challenge him back. So here we are in a war 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.240 that is not ours. Here we are defunding people who 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.320 need that paycheck, who are hourly workers. Here we are 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.960 ready to snatch people's voting rights away in the two 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.439 hundred and fiftieth anniversary of this country, returning back to 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:08.639 what it knows best. Jim Crow, disenfranchisement and oppression. I 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.080 don't even know if we ever left that, So mint 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.359 any party words before we've closed. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.040 I appreciate you everything you just said. It's so true, 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.000 and I know it comes from a place of love. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:21.159 We've got a lot of work to do. You know, 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.240 when people say to me America is better than this 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:27.560 these days, I say, I'm not certain that she is. 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.040