1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Ron Anian order repair is a funny thing. You'll hang 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: the guy by his thumbs for the slightest infractions. It's 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: just amazing. It's the most wonderful time with the kids 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: jingle belling and everyone telling you be a good cheer. 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: It's the most wonderful time. 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: The car Doctor. Let's go and talk to Bill in Virginia, 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Oh for Ford Crown VIC. And some questions about air rod. 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: Should I check it? 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Do you have to put aaron attire? Yeah, you're qualified. 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. That's that's that's kind of it. Brother. 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of Ronananian, the Car Doctor. 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: the phone and call in. 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: The does are opening, But I am here to take 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six nine hundred. 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 4: And nah peep running. 19 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about, well, what's 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: going on with Chrysler. You know Chrysler's You hear it 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: in the news in and out. If you're in New Jersey, 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: you're kind of hearing it in and out between. There's 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: drones overhead, but that's a whole other conversation not applicable 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: to this radio show. 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 5: Or is it. 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be doing drone repair in the next fifty years. 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: Chrysler's in trouble. 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 5: You know. 29 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I didn't verify this, but I think I think it 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: was right. The article I read said Chrysler Chrysler as Chrysler, 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: not Ram, not Jeep. But Chrysler only makes one vehicle now, 32 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's true. They only make a minivan. 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: I think they just make a minivan. I don't think 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: they make a car. Tom will check it for me, 35 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: but I and I was like, wow, that's kind of 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: mind blowing, right, you know, it's funny the car companies, 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: all of them do what they want, but I don't 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: think they listened to the public until after the fact. 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: Ford stopped making sedans. All they did was make trucks, right, Like, 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: the only vehicle you can buy from Ford, the only 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: car you can buy from Ford is a Mustang, all right, 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: But everything else is small SUVs. And you know the 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: whole ev thing. We know where that's going, you know, 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: I think that's sort of seen its day, and you know, 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: now Ford's starting to think, hey, maybe we'll start making 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: cars again. The you know, now, I know why the 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Simpsons are around, because there's that there's that you know, 48 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: Homer moment though, like people want cars. Yeah. 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm looking at their website right now, Chrysler, and 50 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: I see two twenty twenty four models, the Chrysler Pacifica, 51 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: the Chrysler Pacifica plug in hybrid one twenty twenty three 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: Chrysler three hundred and a twenty twenty five Chrysler Voyager. 53 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 2: There's only four. 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Things listed on this website, so that's all it is. 55 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: So they don't even make the minivan anymore. 56 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 2: Well, the Voyager is of an Evan. 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: Oh, they consider that a minivan. Okay, so four models, 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: and it sounds like two of those, or at least 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: one of those, is an electric version of one of 60 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: the other models. Not a whole lot there now that. 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: Well, they've only got one listed for twenty twenty five. 62 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Maybe they're not all out yet. But here's 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: my point. I'm seeing more and more problems with Chrysler, 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: to the point that it's The article I was reading 65 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: also pointed out that Chrysler has this tremendous backlog of 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: EV's and if you notice, I don't talk about EV's anymore. 67 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: I haven't for the past six or seven months because 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I kind of think I said to myself, you know, 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: it's creating too much of a ruckus, and it's upsetting 70 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: the listenership on some sides of the coin, and I 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: want to be a neutral, you know what. I'm just 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna let nature take its course, and I think it is. 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: And what really kind of got me going on Chrysler 74 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: was this. We had a twenty eleven Chrysler Town and 75 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Country in the shop this week, and I think I 76 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: talked to you about this two weeks ago that I 77 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: was waiting for the tip them the totally integrated power 78 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: module to come in. We had to replace the underhood 79 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: fuse box or the control module for the vehicle, which 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: is actually a computer in fuse box and relays under 81 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: the hood. So by some miracle, Chrysler actually found one 82 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: and sent me one. Now they're remanning it all right, 83 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: meaning they take the old ones apart, they figure out 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: what's wrong with them, and they re manufacture them and 85 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: put them together, which okay, great. I'm grateful to get 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: anything I can for this twelve going on thirteen year 87 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: old vehicle. Here's the crazy part. One of the connectors, 88 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: the C four connector to be exact because they number 89 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: them connector one, two, three, four, five, sixty seven so on. 90 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: The C four connector has up to sixteen wires in it, 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: and you know we spent seven hundred dollars for this replacement. 92 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: Tip them and you start reading the instructions because I 93 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm one of those weird mechanics. I actually 94 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: read what I'm trying to fix. Instructions. Usually I read 95 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: them after the fact, but I thought in this case 96 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: I would read them before because it was taped right 97 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: to the top of the module. I mean, in all fairness, 98 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: usually I'm a heye that I put it together right. Look, 99 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: let's read the instructions and see if I did it. 100 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: But in this case, I did it beforehand. Why is 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: Chrysler telling me to move four wires out of the 102 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: sixteen wire connector and swap them, swap the white green 103 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: with the white orange and the white ten with the 104 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: white yellow. Well, wait a minute, Pen eleven has a 105 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: black wire in it. It doesn't have a white yellow, 106 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: So what wire do I swap. Wait, I have to 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: match wire colors, but yet my pen eleven is a 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: black it's not a white yellow. We had to look 109 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: through I mean it was like Webster's Dictionary of Bulletins 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: to find the comment where and in the case where 111 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: you have a black wire swap it Anyway, Now, the 112 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: scary part is the instructions for putting this tip them 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: in were printed as per Chrysler in twenty fourteen, ten 114 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: years ago. The part is for a twenty eleven vehicle. 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: The remanufacturing of this part, as per the tag in 116 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: the box, took place in twenty twenty two. How come 117 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: we haven't updated the instructions to include that bulletin? And 118 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: I say, it's because everybody's running around corporate offices worrying 119 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: about if they have enough pencils and pencil sharpeners and 120 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: snacks in the executive lounge. Because they're so worried about 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: going out of business they can't worry about everything else. 122 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. You know, there's that moment, it's like spin 123 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the magic wheel. God, I hope this works. You know 124 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: it's Chrysler's in trouble. Take it from me and turning 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: wrenches a long time. You know, when you start to 126 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: see things where companies can't keep up with and I 127 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: don't want to say little details, but little details, you know, 128 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: what does that say for product support? If that was 129 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: a computer and this was Microsoft Windows, we would roast them. 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: There would be conversation in every forum, and yet we 131 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: seem to be accepting of it. By the way it 132 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: did work. We got it together, and it seemed that 133 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: the paradox or the problem with this vehicle that made 134 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: it so unique that we had to swap wiring around 135 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: was this was a fully loaded twenty eleven town in country, 136 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: and it had fog lights. And evidently they didn't put 137 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: fog lights into many of these vehicles, and since it 138 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: was such a rare option, it changed the configuration of 139 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: the underhood fuse box and you know how it was 140 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: supposed to work. I'm actually going to do a video 141 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: about it. The tip and went back because it's a 142 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: core we had to give it back to Chrysler. But 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: I've got the instruction book at the shop and I 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: think I'm going to lay out a video this week 145 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: and post it up to the YouTube channel, just to 146 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: show you and try to explain what was going on, 147 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know, here's what we did, and here's what 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: we had to do, because I think it's important for 149 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: you to see it. Plus, I think if anybody else 150 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: is out there and they're doing a late model Chrysler 151 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: town in country, they'll know it might be a resource, 152 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: it might be a reference for somebody to help them, 153 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: because nobody should have to go through that. It's it's ridiculous, 154 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: you know. I see a lot of problems with a 155 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: lot of car companies. People ask me all the time, 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: you know, what should they buy? And I'm getting leery 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: of Chrysler. If Chrysler can't get me correct parts. And 158 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: this isn't the first time we had We've had more 159 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: than a few. We've got more than a few. We 160 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: had a twenty twelve Jeep Grand Cherokee Again, how many 161 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: how many Jeep Grand Cherokees did did Jeep make in 162 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: twenty twelve? Parent company Stilantis now right, the one where 163 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: the CEO resigned this week? How many? How many Jeeps 164 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: did they make in twenty twelve? A gazillion, two gazillion 165 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: left front drive axle for this vehicle outer space intergalactic 166 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: back order doesn't exist. They're still making it or so 167 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: they're saying they haven't. They haven't ruled it obsolete yet. 168 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's just it's just not to 169 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: be found. And you know, you kind of got to 170 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: say to yourself, why what do you buy? I don't know, 171 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. And then I read in the news. 172 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: Have you seen the story about Nissan. I'm gonna pick 173 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: on everybody today, Merry Christmas. Have you seen the story 174 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: in the news about Nissan? There was an article on 175 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal. They're giving Nissan twelve to fourteen 176 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: months to survive before they go and Honda, which I 177 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: hope they don't because Nissan will just pull Honda under. 178 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: I think they could, even though Honda so gigundis, but 179 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: Nissan is rumored to be on the chopping block and 180 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: maybe in the executioner's block because it's not doing well, 181 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: you know. And it's funny, right you read the comments 182 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: about Nissan and it was such a such a reliable, 183 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: solid company, and it's changed hands so many times in 184 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: terms of ownership. I think in the last couple of 185 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: ten years that you know, I don't think there are 186 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: car people running car companies anymore. And it's starting to show. 187 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: It's starting to crack. Not all car company. I think 188 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: Toyota is being run by car people. I think Honda's 189 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: being run by car people, guys that you know, get it, 190 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: real engineers. I think GM is struggling to come back 191 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: to being a car company. Ford. There's a lot going 192 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: on at Ford. I think Ford's lost its quality edge. 193 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: And I think you read about it all the times 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: that tense speed automatic transmission is driving everybody nuts, you know, 195 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: and I hope Ford does make it. I like for it. 196 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I think Ford. I think Ford had some good products. 197 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: I'm not convinced of current stuff. Somebody was telling me 198 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: today that they went out looking at a mid level, 199 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: mid mid mid option to equipped F one fifty pickup 200 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: brand new. It was sixty six thousand dollars for a 201 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: pickup truck, a four wheel drive, you know, F one fifty. 202 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: Nothing crazy, you know, air conditioning, power, windows, power breaks, 203 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: the usual, you know, nuts, absolutely nuts. So the future 204 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: of order repair looks bright, and I can't imagine where 205 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: it's going to go. Hey, you know, it's Christmas. I 206 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: don't know if I should do this, but I will. 207 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: And you know we've got I've got I'm looking at 208 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the gift library, the things I was 209 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: supposed to hand out during the course of the year, 210 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: and I figured it. Now it's Christmas, and now we'll 211 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: start to hand them out. I have in front of 212 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: me the complete book. You know, this might be a 213 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: collector's item. I don't know if I should give this away. 214 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: The complete book of Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars, every 215 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: model from nineteen sixty to today. Let's see what does 216 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: it go back to. Let me look it up in 217 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: the table of contents. I'll tell you what. I don't 218 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: want to beat the clock. Let me pull over, take 219 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: the pause. When I come back, we'll talk about the 220 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: book giveaway. And I want to give away this book 221 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: this weekend. So the complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth 222 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: muscle Cars, every model from nineteen sixty to today. Tom Ray, 223 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: my eminent engineer and partner in domicile here is the judge. 224 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: So be nice to Tom. Don't say anything about the giants, 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: and he might give it to you. I'll be back 226 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: right after this. I'm ronnin Nanny and the car Doctor. 227 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. 228 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: Where you're going. 229 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Vehicle not taking you where you want. To go, Well, 230 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: call Ron. 231 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: He's the expert at making your vehicle take you where 232 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: you need it eight. 233 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: Five five five six zero ninety nine zero zero. And 234 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: now back to Ron. You know, this book goes all 235 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: the way up. It starts nineteen sixty muscle Cars, Mo 236 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Part muscle Cars, and it goes all the way up 237 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: through the Dodge Challenger twenty twenty three. So there you go. 238 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: That's we're gonna give that away this weekend. I don't 239 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: know where. I just posted it up on Facebook if 240 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: you want to see pictures of it. So I told 241 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: everybody they have to call it and be nice to Tom, 242 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: which is easy to do with such a nice guy. Yeah, sure, okay, 243 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones. 244 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 5: Umm. 245 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, research Kathy wrote me. She looked 246 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: it up. The Chrysler three hundred is discontinued as of 247 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: this year. So now how many models do they have? 248 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 5: Tom? What is that? 249 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: Leaving with two? One? One right? One? So they're making 250 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: so all they make is the minivan? Is that crazy? Christ? 251 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 6: There? 252 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: Walter p is rolling over in his grave brother, you know, 253 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: because Walter P wasn't you know, and he was an 254 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: engineer way back in the day. Said, just just said 255 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: what they become. Let's let's go over to Pete in 256 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania see what this is all about. 257 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 4: Pete. 258 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? 259 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 6: Well? Thank you? First of all, let's not forget it's 260 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 6: Pearl Harbor Day. I don't know if you mentioned that earlier. 261 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that. I was going to it. 262 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: I wanted to see if anybody did you, sir, are 263 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: a patriot? Thank you very much. You know, it's It's funny. 264 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 3: I was. 265 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: Growing up, so I was listening to the news out 266 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: of New York City Today and the NBC Today Show 267 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: their big announcement. They said, hey, you know, today's December 268 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: the seventh, and I went, okay, here it comes. Yep, 269 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: today's the day that we're gonna And there was some kakamaimi, 270 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: some kind of sale thing that goes on every year 271 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: in the city, and they were highlighting that, and I'm thinking, 272 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what I guess because the greatest generation 273 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 1: is almost gone now and we don't have to talk 274 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: about it. You know, it's nonsense, it really is. But 275 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: you Today's Pearl Harbord Day. Eight oh three Hawaiian time, 276 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: I think it was in the morning on that Sunday morning. 277 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 6: Thank you. I figure correct if my father was in 278 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 6: the Pacific in World War two. 279 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, just a whole other generation of people. Absolutely. 280 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: So how can I help you today, Pete? 281 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 6: Well, in your last segment you said Ford had good 282 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 6: products quote unquote, so I want to follow up on that. 283 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 6: I basically have a nineteen thirty one Ford Model, a 284 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 6: Sadan cool all stopped. My parents bought it back in 285 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 6: nineteen fifty seven, and I learned to drive in the 286 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 6: car in nineteen sixty six, giving my age away, and 287 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 6: basically since then it hasn't been driven much. And it 288 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 6: was driven up by my dad, given to me, and 289 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 6: parked in my barn in twenty ten. So it's been 290 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 6: sitting at my barn for fourteen years now, not run 291 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: at all. And I just wanted to ask you for 292 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 6: your reckon as to what do I have to do 293 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 6: before starting it or trying it even start it up 294 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: and running it? It does I put the crank in, 295 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 6: It does crank easily, right, That's my question. I don't 296 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: has compression and everything else, but it just it sat 297 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 6: there for fourteen years. What do I need to do? 298 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Number one. Well, I'd drain the oil, right, you know, 299 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: I would drain the oil. I would pull plugs out 300 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: of it, shoot a little squirre of oil into each cylinder, 301 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: put the plugs back in. I'm just funny like that, 302 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: you know. 303 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 3: I would. 304 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: I would give it a little bit of time, let 305 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: it sit overnight, let the oil sort of you know, 306 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: move itself around, and make sure that there's some lubrication 307 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: that way, so when you start it we don't have 308 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: any issues. And then I would obviously fill it with 309 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: fresh oil. I would hand crank it and make sure 310 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: everything is moving freely and not using the fuel from 311 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: the tank. I would put an alternate fuel supply in 312 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: this just to see if it fires. And if it 313 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: fires and runs, we're good. You know. I think that's 314 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: as far as far as getting the engine running, you know, obviously. 315 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 6: Which is really what I would like to do. 316 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, obviously changing coolant, and if it's wet, 317 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna change. We're gonna change whatever's wet coolant, transfluid, 318 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: differential fluid, whatever, you know. Obviously, look at the brakes, 319 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: look at the tires, all the rubber components, you know, 320 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: just all the things that it would normally expect to 321 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: do maintenance on you know, but r my. 322 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, my big thought was just to get the engine running, 323 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 6: so after that I can play it and do what 324 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 6: i want. But training you oil, pull the plugs. Uh, 325 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 6: you'd squirt some oil in each of the cylinder, crank it. 326 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: And hand crank it, and then put and then put 327 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: the plugs back in. You know, it's gonna smoke a 328 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: little blue. Who cares? Uh? You know, you could even 329 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: use the plugs that are in there. You're gonna even 330 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: if even if you foul them a little bit or 331 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: they have some carbon on them, Who cares. We just 332 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: want to get it running. We just want to put 333 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: a little heat in the cylinders, you know, just to 334 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: see how it reacts. And then and then once i 335 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: see that it runs and it's solid that way and 336 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: I've got good oil pressure, you know, I'm gonna then 337 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: shut it off fill it with coolant. You know, I'm 338 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: an even worried about coolant at this point. I just 339 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: want to hear it fire right, and you know, then 340 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna then I'm gonna put you know, I'm gonna 341 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: put coolant in it, bring it up to temp. Let 342 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: us sit there in idle for a half hour, forty 343 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: minutes whatever, do a hot oil change, fill it with 344 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: fresh oil. 345 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 6: You did, you did make a good suggestion of an 346 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 6: alternate gas supply, because I don't know if it was 347 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 6: put away with any gas in it, or it is 348 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 6: put away and the gas has been drained out right, 349 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 6: But prior to putting any gas in the gas tank, 350 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 6: say I get it running with an alternate gas supply, 351 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 6: would you recommend flushing the gas tank or something there 352 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 6: might just be rust in it, or just run it 353 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 6: through a filter paper or something. 354 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I would pull the tank. It's easy enough, 355 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and you know, I would either look inside or have 356 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: the tank boiled out and cleaned up. You know, fourteen 357 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: years is a long time, and since since there's some 358 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: unknowns here, and then if there is any rust in 359 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: the tank, we can have it seal coated. They can 360 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: seal coat the inside of the tank to keep the 361 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: rust from circulating around. And then you know, obviously go 362 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: through the carburetor. Once we know the engine runs, get 363 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: the car rebuilt, and there's all kinds of parts available 364 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: for that. So that's that's an easy fix. But get 365 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: it run and built, Pete. I'm sorry, get it run 366 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: and Pete and you know, let me know what happens. 367 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: We can kind of talk from there, all right, kiddo, 368 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go. The clock's gonna take me, but you 369 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: keep going, and good thoughts about Pearl Harbor. I'm running, Ady, 370 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: and the car Doctor I'm back right after this seats. 371 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh, by the way, research Kathy once again 372 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: has the chime in thank God for her and tell 373 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: us that no, they have two Pacifica and Voyager, So 374 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: thanks Kath, keep them coming. So but two vehicles. I 375 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: wonder how many cars? Kathy and she'll do this and 376 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk about it the next break. Kathy, do some 377 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: research and find out how many cars did Chrysler make 378 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: in a year at their at their peak, you know, 379 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: how many different models? Five, seven, eleven. It used to 380 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: be that you've welcome to a Chrysler showroom. There were 381 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: cars all over the place. But I guess not so 382 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: much anymore. But anyway, let's go to Let's go to 383 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: Daniel in Wisconsin. Daniel, welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. 384 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: How can I help hi? 385 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: How are you Ron? 386 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: I am good? How are you? 387 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: I awesome? Talking to you, man, I listened to you 388 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: every day. I appreciate you podcast and Saturday. 389 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you like that? How do you like those 390 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: classic podcasts from fifteen years ago? Twenty years ago? Isn't 391 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: that crazy stuff? 392 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been doing. 393 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: Life has changed a lot, you know. I listened to 394 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: those when I post them up, and I think, and 395 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: it's funny. I kind of remember the calls, which is bad, 396 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: but you know, I tend not to forget a lot 397 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: of things. But it's just, you know, the way we 398 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: fixed cars in two thousand and seven versus today just 399 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: just nuts. It's just so very different. The market has 400 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: changed so radically, so cars are so different now. Anyway, 401 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: how can I help young man? 402 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: Well, I had bought a twenty three Ford Maverick and 403 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: we like it, but size there's a button here? Yeah, 404 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: there is it? Man? The ride is I feel every 405 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: bump yep of Wisconsin romans yep. And what can I change. 406 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: Without changing the truck? 407 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 3: Taking all the dufts done on my wallet? 408 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it's it's I'll be honest with you. 409 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: I've seen the Maverick, I've ridden in the Maverick. I 410 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: don't like the Maverick and This is just one of 411 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: the reasons. It's it's it's got such a wimpy little suspension, 412 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's just it's got no guts to it. 413 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know of anything in the aftermarket right now, 414 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: like as somebody come out with better shocks or a 415 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: better suspension system for I haven't. I haven't seen anything. 416 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: It's been a while since I last looked, because I 417 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: was kind of curious when these first came out, So 418 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I I honestly don't know if there is anything you 419 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: can do, Daniel. I'm not gonna lie to you, as 420 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect me to. Uh sure, hey, listen, you 421 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: know you can try new seats, you know. I wondered, 422 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: if it's possible, what what different wheels and tires would 423 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: do for that truck, because it's got what on it, 424 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: It's got what size rims are on that. 425 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 5: Do you know? 426 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: I don't even know. Yeah, I did not lie. 427 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if we could put a slightly bigger tire, 428 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: give it a little bit more, but then I'd have 429 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: to reprogram, you know, if there was an optional size, 430 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: which I don't think there was. I think they only 431 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: came with one sized tire. But if there was a 432 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: way to put a larger tire on it and then 433 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: program computers accordingly. So I don't skew numbers and change things, 434 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: I would, by all means try that just to see, 435 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: you know, a little more tire. 436 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: One, I got the tire. Somebody put a cooper around there, 437 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: so I think the guy was trying to change that, right. 438 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean even though I talked to a 439 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: guy that's got a lariat and it's the same with 440 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: you know, ride quality. Wow, you picked that much more 441 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: for lariat and it's the same, right, Yeah, Ford, you 442 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: really screwed up. 443 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you Ford has kind of lost their 444 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: way in a lot of in a lot of things. 445 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: And I see this on a repeated basis. I was 446 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: looking at a presentation about the ten speed automatic transmission 447 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: that are in Fords, and they were pointing out the 448 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: weak points and they're so obvious you wonder how the 449 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: engineers missed it. And you know, for all my listeners 450 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: out there that have the F one, fifty two, fifty 451 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: series pickup trucks, they know what I'm talking about. They're 452 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: they're living it, you know. It's it's I kind of 453 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: thought Ford lost its way. We have a couple of 454 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 1: customers with the Ford Transit, the big van which replaced 455 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: the Econoline van, which made no sense to me because 456 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, how many how many Econoline 457 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: vans did they make over the years? Another gazillion. Here's 458 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: another gazillion numbered model vehicle, right, and they create this 459 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: transit connect in this transit that is so difficult to 460 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: work on, and the full size transits, all they do 461 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: is chew up breaks and tires. Every twenty thousand miles, 462 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: you're putting one or the other or both on. And 463 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: I see this all day long, and I'm like, how 464 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: could they do this? And then to do the breaks 465 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: on a transit van the more heavy duty versions is horrible. 466 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: It's it's it's the rear axle has to come apart 467 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: and just to do breaks, to do rotors, and you wonder, 468 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: you know why not a well thought out vehicle. Absolutely 469 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: not a well thought out vehicle by any stretch. So 470 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I think Ford's got some growing to do. I think 471 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: They've got some some thinnan to do, as we like 472 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: to say, and some things to correct. So but yeah, 473 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: your Maverick is going to stay the way, it is 474 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: my friend until somebody in the aftermarket re engineers it. 475 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: Hey give it a shot. What have you got to lose? 476 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 3: Well, I want to thank you, and you are right 477 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 3: about mechanics because I lost mine and I was with 478 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: them for twenty years and I would take it into 479 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: the shop and he knew what I wanted. If it 480 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 3: was over a certain amount, he would call me. Other 481 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 3: than that, he would fix it and then I would 482 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: pay him. 483 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: Right, And I think, I yeah, I listen. I don't 484 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: think not everybody. I don't want to say everybody, but 485 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 1: there are some people out there that think so cock 486 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: eyed about mechanics. True story. And then I'm going to go. 487 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: I had a woman called the shop this week. What's 488 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: your availability for work? And I said, well, we're you know, 489 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: we've got some time in a week. We're about a 490 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: week and a half. I think we were this was Monday, 491 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: so I think this is Wednesday, so we're about a 492 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: week and a half out. I said, what do you have? 493 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: She says, I have an O seven Honda honesty okay, 494 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: And you know what do you need to get done? Well, 495 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: I need valve cover gaskets in a set of spark 496 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: plugs and I said, well, listen, your first time to us. 497 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: You're new to us. I said, you know, we're going 498 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: to do a seasonal checklist. We do a seasonal checklist. 499 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Here's the cost. Yeah, I want to baseline the vehicle. 500 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen the vehicle before. You know, I want 501 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: to make sure you've got me working on the front 502 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: of the car. I want to make sure the back 503 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: half of the car isn't going to fall off. And 504 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: she flat out didn't want to do that. And I 505 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: can't understand that. You know, you go to a doctor 506 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: for the first time, what does he do? They give 507 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: you a physical right, heart rate, blood pressure, living in 508 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: your mouth, look in other places. You know, it's it's 509 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: it's crazy. And I think I think people that are 510 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: impractical and don't approach mechanics correctly are going to find 511 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: they're going to constantly go through mechanics. You know, everybody 512 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: that's come into my shop and said, hey, I can't 513 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: find a decent mechanic, and they roll through the list 514 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: and after about the sixth or seventh mechanic in their 515 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: lifetime time, I keep going. You know, there's one common 516 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: denominator here. You know, maybe it's not the mechanics. Maybe 517 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: it's you and people have to start to accept that. 518 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, because every time I see him, I beg him 519 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: to open the shop and he says I can, and 520 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: I wish I would. Yeh. 521 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: It's well the cost, well, the cost alone, you know 522 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 1: what it is to yeah, I mean, yeah, I know, 523 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's just a lot. You know, you 524 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: can describe what is it cost to open an order 525 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: repair shop to words a lot? You know, it's it's 526 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: just it's just that expensive. She asked me. She said, 527 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: so what's your labor rate? I said, you know, yeah, 528 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: it's one hundred and seventy five dollars an hour and 529 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: she almost fell over. 530 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't care what the labor rate is because 531 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: you're good. 532 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: Well, she said. Then I said, what do you think 533 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: it should be? She says, oh, I don't know. Fifty 534 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: sixty dollars an hour. I said, right, when you get 535 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: back from nineteen fifty five, let me know how the 536 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: trip was, and she hung up on me. I can't 537 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: understand it. People have no sense of humor. I gotta go. 538 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: I gotta go. Daniel. Listen, you're very welcome. You have 539 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: a merry Christmas. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. 540 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. La la la, la la la. 541 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: I could sing. My father used to say, go sing 542 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: far far away. I would always tell him, I don't 543 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: know that song. Let's go over to eric in Maryland. 544 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Run any of the car. Doctor at your service, sir, 545 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: how can I help? 546 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: Hey? 547 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 5: Ron? 548 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: How are you good? 549 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 5: Sir? Thank you for having me on. 550 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. What's cooking? 551 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: So I've gotta I want to I want to say 552 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 5: two things real quick in recon recognizations for Pearl Harvard Day. 553 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 6: Thank you to all service members past and president. 554 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 5: Sure, even America safe and being great to Tom. The 555 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 5: Patriots are three and three and ten right now now, 556 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 5: and we all know the legacy prior. So just hang 557 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 5: on for the Giants, man. 558 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's tough, do you know what? The good 559 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: The good thing about the Giants is the season's over early, 560 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: so you get's you get to spend a lot of 561 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: time on Sunday doing other things. Yeah, you know. 562 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: It's they got a lot of good things coming up. 563 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta you gotta hope. So, yeah, the Giants 564 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: have great things coming. The season's over in four weeks. 565 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: I think and then we're done, so thank god. But yeah, 566 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: it's horrible. So what's cooking? How can I help you 567 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: and your Honda today? 568 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 569 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 5: So I've got a two thousand and eight Honda Pilot. Uh, 570 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 5: it's the value packets model with the three point five 571 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 5: V six and it's the all will drive. I'm having 572 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 5: crazy transmission issues. And I know that Honda had issues 573 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 5: in like the three oh four versions. Right now, I've 574 00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 5: replaced like the selenoid A and B. I replaced selenoids. See, 575 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 5: I've replaced the third and fourth transmission position sensor. 576 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: You've done all the external switches, is what you're saying? 577 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 5: Most of them? Yeah? Most of them? 578 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? 579 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: Okay, And what kind of problems are you having? 580 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 5: So it started sporadically. Once the transmission fluid heated up 581 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 5: for the next amount of time, maybe twenty minutes, maybe fifteen, 582 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 5: it would just completely slip, okay, and I would put 583 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 5: the car in neutral as I was driving, not recommended, 584 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: but turn it off and then turn it back on, 585 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 5: and then it would pick back up and it would 586 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 5: engage and it would go. And now it's to the 587 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 5: point where it will drive for maybe two minutes. But 588 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 5: it's once that transmission fluid heats up, it's it's toast 589 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 5: and it doesn't shift, it doesn't do anything. It just 590 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: completely just read reps out, check. 591 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: In, check engine light codes. Issues I had. 592 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: I had a P seven zero four. I think first, 593 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 5: I guess my main question is is it worth it? Too? 594 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 5: Because I've talked to a couple of different mechanics. Is 595 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 5: it worth it to just replace the transmission or to 596 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 5: try to replace the torque converter? 597 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: First? 598 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 5: You know, I'm pretty handy. I did all the sensors 599 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 5: and stuff myself. I just I wanted to get your 600 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 5: your take on take on the current issue. 601 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a matter of economics and budget, 602 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: all right, more so than vehicle. I will assume that 603 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the vehicles in tip top shape. Just 604 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: just listening to how you just. 605 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 5: Listen to It's perfect. Yeah, it actually in reference to 606 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 5: Pearl Harbor. It actually uh so, I live pretty close 607 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 5: to Dover Air Force Base, right, And I bought it 608 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 5: from a gentleman that buys vehicles off of service members 609 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: when they deploy. So he and it had a perfect 610 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: service record. Nothing really related to the transmission as much, 611 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: but I did the trans flush and all that stuff 612 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 5: two or three times and I'm still just having. 613 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 6: Issues with it. 614 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, how many how many miles were on it when 615 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: you bought it? 616 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 5: I want to say probably to. 617 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: Ten maybe, because that will look like they had the time. 618 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 5: Cover and everything replaced at like one point fifty, so 619 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 5: I know the motor's. 620 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Solid right, Well that because because how long you've owned 621 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: and maintained the vehicle will affect my answer. And I'll 622 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: tell you what. Sit tight, let me pull overtake the pause, 623 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: and when I come back, we'll finish up and we'll 624 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: talk about it. I'm running any and the car Doctor. 625 00:31:46,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: We'll return right after this. And Eric, are you're still there? Running? 626 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: Ending of the car doctor here? 627 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? 628 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So you acquired this eight Honda Pilot at about 629 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten thousand miles a couple of years back, right, 630 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: it's got how many miles on it now? 631 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: Thirty about? 632 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: So you went twenty thousand miles. Let's let's just call 633 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: it what it is. What'd you pay for the car? 634 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 5: Thirty two hundred I believe, okay. 635 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: So you put you paid thirty two hundred dollars for 636 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: it by New Jersey standards, I can tell you dealer 637 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: installed transmission in that vehicle is about sixty five hundred bucks, 638 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: so it's it's double the value of the vehicle. Of course, 639 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: you know, I can make the argument of car is 640 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: only worth what it's going to cost you to replace. 641 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: So you know, my first thought goes to what would 642 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: you replace it with? You'd have to go out and 643 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: find another thirty two hundred dollars vehicle, you know, or 644 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's a five, maybe it's a yeah, maybe it's 645 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: a five thousand dollars vehicle. 646 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 5: Now yeah, yeah, you're not gonna find You're not going 647 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 5: to find a vehicle that big, right in this good condition, right. 648 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 649 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it pays. I don't think it pays 650 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: to do just the converter to address that part of 651 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: your question, because if the converter's coming apart, it put 652 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: all that contaminant, where did it go, you know, to 653 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: go through the labor of pulling the trans I think 654 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: that's silly. I would just put a unit in it. Now, 655 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: would I put a unit in it? This is a 656 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: marriage question. You're about to get married. You're gonna put 657 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: a trends in this car. You're gonna have to drive 658 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: it the next three to five years. And what does 659 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: that look like two thousand and eight, twenty eighteen, twenty 660 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: twenty eight. That vehicle is going to be twenty years old, 661 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: twenty one years old, twenty nine, thirty twenty three. Yeah, 662 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be twenty two to twenty three years old 663 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: when you're done with it. What sort of parts will 664 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 1: be out there? And as solid as you think the 665 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: engine is, because you probably thought how solid the trans was. 666 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: If we have an engine problem, if we start to 667 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: burn oil, you know, this is a great what if car? 668 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: What if this goes bid? What if that goes bid? 669 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,479 Speaker 1: Are you ready to stay married or are you going 670 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: to get a divorce? You know, the sixty five hundred 671 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: dollars or if you did it yourself, that unit over 672 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: the counter has got to be every bit of thirty 673 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: five hundred and four grand. Let's call it four grand. 674 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: It's a nice round number. The car doesn't anoy you anything. 675 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: You've driven it a couple of years. You paid thirty 676 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: two hundred dollars for it to buy that out by 677 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: the number of months driven except for the services, which 678 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: is reasonable. The car doesn' annoy you a dome. But 679 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: I think to put six thousand or four thousand and 680 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: whatever into this vehicle to keep it going. That's a 681 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 1: matter of how bad do you want this vehicle. I'm 682 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: not saying not to, I'm just saying way the options carefully. 683 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: And then if you put all this money, you hit 684 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: the sixty five hundred dollars and whatever and it got 685 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: totaled in an accident two weeks later, what would your 686 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: insurance company. 687 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 2: Pay you for it? 688 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: And that's a problem, A lot of thinking to do here. Eric, 689 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: let me know what you decide. I'm not an ending 690 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: in the car Doctor make aren't expensive, they're priceless. Celia M.