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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in our number three Thursday edition Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: All right, So if.

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Speaker 2: You're just getting in your car Thursday edition, maybe you're

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Speaker 2: just driving around lunch break somewhere across the country. In

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Speaker 2: the first hour of the program, Ron DeSantis joined us

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Speaker 2: right off the jump to discuss his presidential candidacy with

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Speaker 2: all of you. Of course, that was announced last night

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Speaker 2: on Spaces with Elon Musk. It did not go flawlessly,

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Speaker 2: as many things on the Internet often do not, but

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Speaker 2: DeSantis has been making the media rounds and talking to

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Speaker 2: everyone about why he believes he is the best candidate

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Speaker 2: to represent the Republican Party in the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 2: I'll play a cut from DeSantis on with us in

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Speaker 2: the first hour of the program. That ties in with

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Speaker 2: the conversation we just had with Julie Kelly here in

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Speaker 2: a moment. But we also want to be fair to

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Speaker 2: both sides. Throughout the course of this process. We've been

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Speaker 2: saying that it's going to get nasty, that it's going

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Speaker 2: to be a bare knuckle brawl, and we are officially there.

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Speaker 2: Trump fired back at DeSantis about an hour ago. Here

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Speaker 2: is what he said.

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Speaker 3: Listen, when the Randa sanctimonious facts come out, you will

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Speaker 3: see that he's better than most Democrat governors, but very

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Speaker 3: average at best, compared to Republican governors who have done

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Speaker 3: a fantastic Jeb. How about the fact that he had

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Speaker 3: the third most deaths of any state having to do

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Speaker 3: with the China virus or COVID. Even Cuomo did better.

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Speaker 1: He was number four.

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Speaker 3: He shut down everything, including the beaches. Other Republican governors

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Speaker 3: didn't do that. They kept it open. It was their choice.

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Speaker 3: I gave them all their choice. And look at Disney

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Speaker 3: and what a message is. Could have worked out an

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Speaker 3: easy settlement, but no, he wanted to show the fake

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Speaker 3: news how tough a guy he is. He's got and

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Speaker 3: the whole Disney thing is really very unfortunate. Now thousands

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Speaker 3: and thousands of jobs are being stapped and a lot

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Speaker 3: of people are very upset about it.

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Speaker 4: So I've thought for a while, Clay, that Trump is

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Speaker 4: going to have a problem here with his COVID narrative.

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Speaker 1: He's going to have a problem with it.

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Speaker 4: Because, well, let's start with this, He says, Rohnda Santis

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Speaker 4: had the third most COVID deaths. Florida is the third

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Speaker 4: most populous country state in the country. So what we

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Speaker 4: found out is that COVID all the restrictions. Basically everyone

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Speaker 4: got COVID. Old people were at risk from COVID. End

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Speaker 4: of story. Masking did nothing, lockdowns in nothing. So to

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Speaker 4: say that that Florida came in third is not really

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Speaker 4: to say anything in terms of aggregate deaths because it's third.

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Speaker 4: He said, Cuomo came in fourth, Right, what's the fourth

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Speaker 4: state in terms of population, New York State.

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Speaker 2: It's even worse than that, though, Buck, because if you

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Speaker 2: draw down and look at the demographics, Florida has way

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Speaker 2: more old people, correct, and we know COVID overwhelmingly impacted

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Speaker 2: old people. I don't have the numbers right in front

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Speaker 2: capita basis, when you factor in age, Florida actually drastically

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Speaker 2: outperformed Mini states, And so that argument's not accurate. And

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Speaker 2: here here's the problem that I have as well. I

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Speaker 2: was a New Yorker during COVID. I now live in Florida.

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Speaker 4: During COVID, I would go to Florida because of what

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Speaker 4: was happened. And that was when Trump was president, was

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Speaker 4: when I started doing this. I would go to Florida

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Speaker 4: to escape the madness. And I had that tweet and

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Speaker 4: have as an American for leaving East Germany for West

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Speaker 4: Germany was leaving New York for Florida during COVID. A

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Speaker 4: lot of people saw that and they said, oh my god,

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Speaker 4: it's so true, because it was true, and you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't. It's frustrating when you're gonna make if you're

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Speaker 4: obviously know to be true, it's demeaning. You can make

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Speaker 4: arguments about all kinds of things, but to say that

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Speaker 4: been delusional or must have been lying. Not gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: Will not bend over and lie for any political candidate.

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Speaker 4: This attack is not landing. There are attacks. I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying Trump doesn't have a path. I'm not saying Trump isn't.

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Speaker 2: Great or what.

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Speaker 1: But this attack to me, I sit here, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: The this is like when he said Florida sucks. We

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Speaker 4: all remember that Florida sucks. And then I would just

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Speaker 4: sit here and say, guys, he lives in Florida, as

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Speaker 4: live in Florida. And he's telling you that Florida sucks.

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Speaker 4: Are we all supposed to say, yeah, Florida sucks.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that? Really?

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Speaker 4: What is that the expectation? I just wonder, at what point, like,

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Speaker 4: what's too much debasement of the of the mind, of

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Speaker 4: cognitive processes before we realized there's some arguments that are good,

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Speaker 4: some arguments that are bad. He's modifying it because he's

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Speaker 4: saying he's better than Democrat governors now, because I think

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Speaker 4: initially he was like he's not even a good governor period.

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Speaker 4: And here's what I would say.

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Speaker 2: April of twenty twenty, most politicians in this country failed

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Speaker 2: I was in Florida because I've lived in Tennessee. Buck,

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Speaker 2: I said, when my kids' school shut down. I turned

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Speaker 2: was like, what are you talking about you It's like, no,

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Speaker 2: they're not going back. Let's go to Florida. We have

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Speaker 2: a place in Florida, loaded up the kids, took them

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Speaker 2: the entire month of May in Florida and Buck. I

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Speaker 2: remember this in particular. DeSantis opened everything back up early May.

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Speaker 2: Write everything in particular. I went to a Mexican restaurant

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Speaker 2: was right when everything was opening up. I took my

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Speaker 2: I remember I took a video of that posted it

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Speaker 2: because my argument all along was I'm telling you what

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Speaker 2: the data shows your family. If you have a young

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, everything was opened by first week in

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Speaker 2: May entire state of Florida. So if you want to

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Speaker 2: make your attack, DeSantis was not perfect in April of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and he was not perfect in March of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty. That's okay. That's a six week period where

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Speaker 2: No Republican governor of a popular state, because yes, you

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Speaker 2: shut down. Okay, that's a very different dynamic than what

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Speaker 2: goes on in Florida. That's a loser argument. Otherwise I

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Speaker 2: would also say this, I think Trump's wrong on Disney.

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Speaker 2: When I'm out and about the Disney's now the fifth

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Speaker 2: most polarizing brand in America, Buck DeSantis is right on

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Speaker 2: Disney as it pertains to the Republican base, and I

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Speaker 2: think this looks like cozying up to big business for Trump.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that that video that he put out

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Speaker 1: This is not it.

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Speaker 4: When he says this, you know, DeSantis isn't ready for it.

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Speaker 4: It's not his time. I've been in the job, I

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Speaker 4: have the experience. I know how to fight the deep state.

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Speaker 4: They can't stop.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: There's all these things, But it seems.

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Speaker 4: To me that there's almost a little bit of an

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Speaker 4: obedience test going on here with I'm going to tell

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Speaker 4: people that DeSantis was bad in Florida. This is like

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Speaker 4: if Trump said that he was better at baseball growing

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Speaker 4: up than Dedysantis. Am I supposed to say that's right?

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Speaker 4: Am I supposed to? I mean Trump didn't play baseball

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Speaker 4: at a D one college, So am I supposed to

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Speaker 4: go along with it because he says so. I mean,

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Speaker 4: at some point we have to establish there's going to

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Speaker 4: be some ground rules here for what reality are.

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Speaker 1: We living in.

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Speaker 4: There are so many areas, and that he releases the

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Speaker 4: am fascinated if I'm wrong on this one about why

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Speaker 4: attack on the issue of Florida. If the argument's going

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Speaker 4: to be, well, DeSantis wasn't perfect. You know who else

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: I spoke to him in the Oval Office in May

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Speaker 4: talk to him about. Well, one, cleaning up the intelligence community. Two.

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Speaker 4: I said, sir, please, we've got to make sure this

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Speaker 4: lockdown stuff never happens again. Now what he said is

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Speaker 4: I'm going to leave it to the States. Then Biden

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Speaker 4: So on the COVID issue, I mean, I have to

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Speaker 4: wonder how many of the people out there who are

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Speaker 4: know what, Operation warp Speed was amazing and the vaccines

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Speaker 4: worked really well. Because Trump is going to say that

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Speaker 4: to say that that's where we are now? Look, I

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Speaker 4: want the best Trump possible. I want a Trump that

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Speaker 4: can beat Joe Biden, can unify the country, and can

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Speaker 4: Trump if everyone sits around and says everything he says

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Speaker 4: is brilliant. It's for dchs because if that were the case,

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden wouldn't be sitting in the White House right now.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's too much tough talk for

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Speaker 4: a primary process to really talk about it. I'm a

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Speaker 4: two time Trump voter. I think he's a great guy.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a patriot. I think he loves this country.

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Speaker 4: I want him to run the best campaign possible. He

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Speaker 4: puts out ads about how Ronda Santists sucked at running

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Speaker 4: Florida during COVID. I'm like, why are you insulting me?

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Speaker 4: I want people to be able to hear the reasons

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Speaker 4: to vote for Trump that are the best possible reasons

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Speaker 4: that inspire them, and I know they're there.

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Speaker 1: But he's he's bad on this. He's going to go

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Speaker 1: after him on the COVID stuff. Really, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: Eight under two two two eight A two I put

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Speaker 4: and I'm just gonna say, if anyone calls in and says, oh,

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Speaker 4: well you should okay, So I guess everything that we

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Speaker 4: talked about with how great Florida was during COVID before

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Speaker 1: And that is a fact. That is a fact.

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Speaker 1: That's my whole family. Ivanka lives here, Don Junior lives here.

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Speaker 4: Clay like what I mean? I want to I want

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Speaker 5: I propose making the wealthy begin to pay their fair share,

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Speaker 1: Those are the stakes. Yes, that's what the stakes are.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We're gonna be taking

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis bucksext Show. Okay, we played

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Speaker 2: eighty two I think Biden's single greatest vulnerability is his age.

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Speaker 2: I think if you put a forty four year old

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Speaker 2: on the debate stage with Joe Biden, presuming he's even

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Speaker 2: willing to debate, if you have Casey DeSantis and three

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Speaker 2: young kids against Joe Biden, who's eighty two years old,

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Speaker 2: I think that is a cosmetic, not a direct policy perspective.

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Speaker 2: That is a cosmetic thing that resonates very much, So

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Speaker 2: I think DeSantis would be more likely to beat Biden

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Speaker 2: just based on age. Do you think that DeSantis is

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Speaker 2: more likely to beat Biden than Trump?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 2: That is a question that I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: people are debating.

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Speaker 4: So you have to break it down into the different

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Speaker 4: almost verticals you could call them in media, right, the

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Speaker 4: different buckets of voters. And I think that when you

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Speaker 4: do that, because right now, yeah, the country is we're

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Speaker 4: close to fifty to fifty country.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we saw that in the last election. We

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Speaker 1: saw that election.

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Speaker 4: Before you start to go back in time, you have

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Speaker 4: to look pretty hard for a definitive electoral defeat. I

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Speaker 4: mean you have to go back really to the Obama

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Speaker 4: era beating McCain and then beating Romney. And when I

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Speaker 4: say definitive, obviously Trump won and it was phenomenal in

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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, but it didn't win by a huge amount

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Speaker 4: of votes in the states that he won. He got

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Speaker 4: just the votes he needed in just the places he

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Speaker 4: needed to win, which was fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's fantastic. How do you do that again? This time?

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Speaker 1: You look at who's up for grabs.

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Speaker 4: Where has the Republican Party in swing states been weak

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty. We all know

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Speaker 4: what the states are.

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Speaker 1: We'll just keep.

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Speaker 4: Talking about them because you know they're gonna be on

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Speaker 4: our minds. Right, It's gonna be Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Virginia is going to be in the mix this

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Speaker 4: time around, Arizona, Arizona, Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: You could like even Arizona. Arizona's a red state. Yep.

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Speaker 1: Why didn't we win in Arizona? Everybody?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, they the machines broke down on Kerry Lake.

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Speaker 4: There are other Republicans who won in that state though.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not saying it's not unfair that the machines,

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Speaker 4: the voting machines, broke down on Carry. But I'm just

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Speaker 4: saying it is possible for Republicans to win on Arizona.

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Speaker 1: We should win this clearly.

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Speaker 4: College educated white voters, working class white voters, Hispanic voters

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Speaker 4: in those key states, soccer moms. Those are basically suburban moms, right,

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Speaker 4: Those are the places where you can pick it up.

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Speaker 4: Working class white voters, college educated white voters, and moms

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Speaker 4: who live in suburban areas of those key States. How

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Speaker 4: does the Santus do with those demographics? Well, and I said,

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Speaker 4: Hispanic voters. I think too, Hispanic's picking up. Look, Ron said,

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Speaker 4: is one Miami date, Yeah, Miami Dade County, which Miami

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Speaker 4: City is you know, seventy three percent Latino. So I

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Speaker 4: think that he has a lot of strength in those

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Speaker 4: areas and that that goes very.

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Speaker 1: Well for him.

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Speaker 4: The question that I need someone to answer for me

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Speaker 4: is what is the way for Trump to win back

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Speaker 4: in the general those voters where there has been there

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Speaker 4: There have been clear indicators of softness or even rejection

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Speaker 4: of support for Trump back candidates and Trump himself in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two and twenty twenty. But this is open

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Speaker 4: by w This is ongoing question. I'm not pretending to

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Speaker 4: have the answers on this, but I think those are

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Speaker 4: some of the questions that MAGA and the folks who

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Speaker 4: are all in on Trump right now are going to

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Speaker 4: be answering for primary voters going forward. I think that's

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Speaker 4: a sense.

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Speaker 2: My number one question, my number one question for Trump

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Speaker 2: would be, you say the election was stolen in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: why would they not steal the election again in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four? This is to me the self defeating nature

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Speaker 2: of Trump's underlying argument. And anybody out there who voted

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Speaker 2: for Trump, and I did obviously in twenty twenty, if

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Speaker 2: you believe that the election was stolen, if you take

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Speaker 2: Trump at his word, what has changed that will keep

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Speaker 2: the election from being stolen in twenty twenty four. I've

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Speaker 2: not heard anybody make a strong argument about what need

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Speaker 2: what has changed?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: If you think the Democrats were willing to cheat in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty such that they kept Trump from being president,

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Speaker 2: why would they not cheat again in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That's the self defeating to me. Aspect of focusing on

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty DESANTUS won Florida by nineteen points. That's not close, right.

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Speaker 2: I want a landslide election because I do think if

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Speaker 2: this thing comes down to a few thousand ballots. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm really nervous about what's going to happen. I'm nervous

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Speaker 2: about suddenly there's going to be a fire alarm that

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Speaker 2: goes off in Atlanta and suddenly something gets flooded.

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Speaker 4: Right, I've heard this from a lot of Remember I'm

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Speaker 4: a two time Trump voter and eight oh sorry four

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Speaker 4: year when he was president staunch Trump supporter. What I've

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Speaker 4: heard from a lot of two time Trump voters though,

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Speaker 4: is we all have to understand that they cheated isn't

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Speaker 4: an excuse, Meaning we have to understand Democrats are going

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Speaker 4: to fight super dirty yep, and we need somebody who

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Speaker 4: will see the dirty fighting before the votes are all counted,

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Speaker 4: catch the dirty fighting or the you know, the dirty

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Speaker 4: politics as it's happening, and end up at the White

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Speaker 4: House as the guy. So that's the mission. Another four

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Speaker 4: years of well, you know, are we going to go

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Speaker 4: through another four years of well we actually won?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I can't live through it. And that's why my clarion, call,

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Speaker 2: my guiding light is the nominee has to beat Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: So what I would encourage And everybody's gonna come to

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Speaker 2: different conclusions. Right, We'll take calls, but some people are

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Speaker 2: gonna say, Vivia Gramasamy's my guy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's fine, fine, of course, That's that's what

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Speaker 4: a primary is. For the nicky Hanley fans out there,

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Speaker 4: don't be scared.

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Speaker 1: You can call in. There's a few of you have

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Speaker 1: called in. Don't think that we're gonna, you know, we open.

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Speaker 4: Form whoever you we want you to be able to

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Speaker 4: make the case for whoever your person is in this

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Speaker 4: primary to all of your fellow Conservatives and Republicans all

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Speaker 4: across the country. Right now, Wade in Allenown, you're a

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Speaker 4: Trump guy. You're in Pennsylvania, which is the most important

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Speaker 4: state probably of all of them. If you could wave

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Speaker 4: a magic wand and guarantee the Republicans were gonna win.

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Speaker 4: But remember they just put a basically dead man and

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Speaker 4: John Fetterman into the Senate. Wade, how would you break

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Speaker 4: this down?

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Speaker 8: I would answer the question you've been answering asking the

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Speaker 8: past few seconds. I called because of what somebody said earlier,

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Speaker 8: but the way you framed the question. Now, I voted

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Speaker 8: for Trump twice and I'm going to vote for him

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Speaker 8: a third time. And that is that he should stop

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Speaker 8: talking about twenty twenty. I understand that. But what he

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Speaker 8: needs to do is stand up, and I wish Rond

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Speaker 8: Deasansers would do. I never met Ron Desantles, I don't

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Speaker 8: know him. I may be a wonderful guy, but Ron

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Speaker 8: DeSantis never walked on North Korea and faced down the people.

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Speaker 8: Ron DeSantis never faced down Chi and did that. Ron

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Speaker 8: DeSantis never should up and said, your European countries, if

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Speaker 8: you don't do this, you're not getting our money. Trump

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Speaker 8: did every single thing that we asked him to do,

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Speaker 8: because they work for us, we don't work for them.

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Speaker 8: We voted for Trump to do something, and he did it.

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Speaker 8: He walked out on stage and hugged the fly, He

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Speaker 8: walked out on stage and nominated three people to the

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court in defensive life. We appreciate everything he did,

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Speaker 8: and I wanted to continue to do it.

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Speaker 4: Now, wait, wait, can I ask you a question? Wait,

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Speaker 4: I have a question for you. First of all, as

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Speaker 4: were to say, you know, appreciate you calling in. Do

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Speaker 4: you think it's fair to point out what you're saying?

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Speaker 4: All makes sense to me. What you're saying is what

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Speaker 4: I think I should be hearing from the Trump campaign.

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Speaker 4: But when he's when he's when he's talking, why go

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Speaker 4: after the Florida situation?

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Speaker 8: Like why pretend no, I'm saying, I'm saying, if if

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Speaker 8: Iron decaid, you have to analyze why a person wants

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Speaker 8: to be president, what they think they're going to do.

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Speaker 8: And Donald Trump already at seventy years old, had all

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Speaker 8: the money he needed, had airplanes, he had stuff. He

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Speaker 8: could have just sat back and said, I want to

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Speaker 8: show you kids the seven wonders of the world. But he

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Speaker 8: decided to fight for his country. Now, after doing all this,

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Speaker 8: going to all he's going to, he's willing to do

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Speaker 8: it all again. I wish somebody like Ron Desantius would

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Speaker 8: stand up and say Donald Trump is right. They stole

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Speaker 8: that election. We don't know how, we can't prove what.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but so Wayne, might I agree with you with

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Speaker 2: a lot of what you're saying. My question is, if

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Speaker 2: you believe twenty twenty was stolen, and Trump does, and

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Speaker 2: and that's a big part of his argument for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, why would they not steal twenty twenty four?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 8: I thought he will.

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Speaker 2: I'm okay. So that's my question, Wayne. If Trump lost

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty and you believe that the election was stolen,

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Speaker 2: which is you're right, I believe it was rigged. Right,

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Speaker 2: I've said that for a long time, why would they

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Speaker 2: not rig it again in twenty twenty four? What has changed?

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Speaker 2: That's why this is an ultimately self defeating argument to me,

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Speaker 2: because if Trump said they cheated, I actually won in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, Well, if they cheat again and he loses

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. We spend eight years saying the

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Speaker 2: same thing. Oh, they cheated, But guess what Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: who can barely raise his right hand and repeat after

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Speaker 2: the Chief Justice or whoever's going to be swearing him in,

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Speaker 2: is going to be standing there in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: getting four more years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, we appreciate you calling in, Wade, thank you for

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Speaker 4: giving us a Pennsylvania perspective. We'll get some more calls

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Speaker 4: Please listen to us the podcast of well Play Travison

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Speaker 4: Buck Section show on the iHeartRadio app, which all of

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Speaker 4: you should have on your smartphones.

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Speaker 1: It's a great app.

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Speaker 4: Let's you listen to Clay and Buck show, which is

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Speaker 4: of utmost importance, but you can also listen to other

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Speaker 4: great shows and listen to music. It's a free app

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Speaker 4: works phenomenally well. You'll love it the iHeartRadio app. Download

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Speaker 4: it please and subscribe to Clay and Buck Show. And

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Speaker 4: we've also got Tutor Dixon Show, which apparently really just

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Speaker 4: growing with each passing week. Not surprising at all. Tutors

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Speaker 4: really an up and coming political and media talent, and

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Speaker 4: I think you're gonna seeing a lot more of her.

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Speaker 4: And we put other things in there too, like the

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Speaker 4: Sunday hang so we got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 8: With that.

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Speaker 1: We did say we.

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Speaker 4: Want to get to your calls and as much as possible,

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Speaker 4: we just kind of want to make this whole primary

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Speaker 4: feel like we're going to be analyzing, We're going to

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Speaker 4: bring you up to speed on the news of the day.

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Speaker 4: Talking about other things too, of course, but this is

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Speaker 4: going to be a major focus, and we want all

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Speaker 4: of you to feel like your voices are truly a

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Speaker 4: part of the conversation as we go through this.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Dan in Southwest Texas called in on this one.

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Speaker 1: What's all what's up? Dan?

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Speaker 7: I Uh, It's Dennis.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 7: But I'm uh yeah, I'm I'm I thought this way

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Speaker 7: I like Trump, and in terms of what he did

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Speaker 7: in office, Uh, don't care for the man and as

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Speaker 7: a person, but I think he did great things in office.

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Speaker 7: But I think he's gas lighting now. I think he

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Speaker 7: goes because he feels threatened. And if he focused on

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Speaker 7: the good things that he did in office, he would

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Speaker 7: be a whole lot better off. If he could focus

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Speaker 7: on what he did and show us out he's going

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Speaker 7: to do more of the same, then he would be

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Speaker 7: a whole lot more positive. But he goes on the

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Speaker 7: attack rather than being a positive influence.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for calling in, Dan. Yeah, Look, this

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Speaker 4: is a little bit of what we're already talking about here,

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Speaker 4: which is I don't know the people advising some of

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Speaker 4: the people advising Trump right now around him, honestly, just

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Speaker 4: don't know what the hell they're doing. I'll just be

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Speaker 4: honest with some of you. That's the truth. I know

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Speaker 4: who some of them are. There are some serious players

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Speaker 4: in there too, but there are some real clowns. And

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Speaker 4: I think that he's getting some very bad advice. I really,

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Speaker 4: I really believe I know that. Actually, So that's going on,

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Speaker 4: that's a part of it. Shannon in round Rock, Texas.

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Speaker 4: What's going on Shannon, Hey.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon. You know, I've had some concerns about the Santis,

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Speaker 9: but I think what really solidified my concerns was when

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Speaker 9: you interviewed him and you asked him, would you pardon Trump?

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Speaker 9: And he never came out and said yes, I will

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Speaker 9: pardon Trump. He danced around the entire question.

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Speaker 1: Well, Klay, what did you ask him that question?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shannon, we'll play the audio tomorrow. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we have time to play it right now. But look,

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Speaker 2: I said yesterday on the show. Some of you heard

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Speaker 2: me saying it, as a matter of principle, if I

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Speaker 2: were running for president of the United States as a

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Speaker 2: Republican or frankly a Democrat, I would pardon Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: because I don't think we need to set the president

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Speaker 2: of presidents or former presidents should be arrested and tried

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Speaker 2: to put in prison. That's what happens in Banana Republics.

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Speaker 2: For those of you who didn't here, we'll play it

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Speaker 2: for you tomorrow. On the show, DeSantis said he would

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Speaker 2: consider pardons for every single January sixth political prisoner, as

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Speaker 2: well as the president of the United States, in the

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Speaker 2: event that he was charged. Now, to be fair, Buck.

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Speaker 2: Some people don't like to answer hypotheticals. Right, we haven't

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Speaker 2: had Trump charged yet, we don't know what the charges are.

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Speaker 2: But I would stand on the principle of personally there

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Speaker 2: should not be charges being brought here and by the way,

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Speaker 2: on the Trump front, on him, the advisors.

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Speaker 1: I would point this out.

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Speaker 2: Every single person who is running for President of the

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Speaker 2: United States against Trump, he hasn't said a single negative

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Speaker 2: word about them, except for DeSantis. Think about that, really,

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Speaker 2: Nicki Haley, nothing, Tim Scott, the Vi, Karamaswami, most of them.

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Speaker 2: He's giving positive endorsements up He's going after DeSantis. That

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Speaker 2: to me tells me this is a two man race.

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Speaker 2: Everybody else is in it to be VP, is in

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Speaker 2: it to be a cabinet secretary. So far, we got

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Speaker 2: two eight hundred pound guerrillas and they are going to

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Speaker 2: be throwing big punches at each other.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get nasty, but we're gonna have a place

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Speaker 4: here to talk about and friends to follow it, to

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Speaker 4: be a part of it, and to hopefully get this

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Speaker 4: country where it needs to be.

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Speaker 1: By playing Buck