1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: And we are back. 5 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Matt It's time here for a little fantasy football focus. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: And I said, we're going to do a regular lineup 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: here on DraftKings. They don't have a regular. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Stranger for one game. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: You can't just play a game where you picked guys 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: from each ross. 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: You know you did some of that yesterday. 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we did with our Captain's mode. So I'm looking 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: here at a different game that they have here. This 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: is the NFL single stat fifty to fifty and so 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 3: you pick three players. There are no quarterbacks involved. You 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: pick three players who are going to have the most 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: yards in the game and touchdowns. Yards from single stats, yeah, 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 3: yards from scrimming. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: Rushing and receiving yards the same, and just total yards 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: from scrimmage. Okay. Is there a salary cap? Is here 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: to be a salary cap? Okay? Interesting? 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: So I would think in this instance you would start 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: with Saquon Barkley. 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think that a lot of people are 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of the similar lineups. I mean, 27 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 2: is Barkley gonna be in every one of them? 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: I would think unless you're betting on Saque getting shut 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: down or. 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Hurt right, so real quick. I was talking to some 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: buddies last night, and I guess the all time rushing 32 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 2: leader in Super Bowl history is like one hundred and 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: sixty two yards, And if you bet Barkley to beat that, 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: it pays like six to one. That seems like a 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: reasonable bet to me, you know, I mean, if he 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: gets away once, you're in it. If he gets away twice, 37 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: you probably want win. Yeah, he's certainly capable. So do 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: we want to plug Barkley in? Yeah? I think is 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: over under rushing totals up to like one fifteen, which 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: is a massive number. Yeah. I mean I assume that 41 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: they're not going to use gain well all that much. 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's so. 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: Where do you then pivot after Barkley. 44 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: What's weird is you'd love to balance it out with Chiefs. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are gonna throw like every down 46 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: short controlled. 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: I think you do have to take at least one 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: player from the other team. If I read the rules 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 3: right now. 50 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: I think that's true. You just want to do that now? 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 2: Is Is it as simple as Kelsey? 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: Do you think Kelsey will have the most yards of 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: the I would think that would be really chalky. 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: But I would think it's definitely choky. 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: But if you're going to win it, you only get again, 56 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 3: you only get three. 57 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: Players here players, that's the key here. I kind of 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: wish there was a salary cap so you can't have 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: just your three favors, right, you know what I mean, 60 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: Like this guy costs too much, you can't add but 61 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: they and if they all go off and every then 62 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: everybody and everybody has and then how do they decipher 63 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: who wins? I feel like it's kind of an odd formula, 64 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: but I am interested. I do think Fangio is going 65 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: to do a lot of low down Kelsey. Yeah, and 66 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: I think the Gene will handle him well, as will Gardner, 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 2: Johnson and Bond like it might be. 68 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: You know, Kelsey has six catches, but it's only for 69 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: forty eight yards or something like that. 70 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: I think there's be a lot of short controlled passing. Yeah. 71 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: Like some of my favorite goofy bets for this are 72 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: over on p Ryan and Gray catches. You know, just 73 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: because I think that they're why they're going to run 74 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: into the teeth this defense, as opposed to trusting the 75 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: best quarterback out there. Yeah, so he could have twelve 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: catches though he could, you know he could. 77 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that he's have an eighty arder, but 78 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: I think Xavier Worthy could have. 79 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: He could catches. He also his usage has been up, yeah, 80 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: you know, in terms of because they do hand him 81 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: the ball from time to time too. 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: That's the other thing I mean, you get you might 83 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: get some points on an end a round, you might 84 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: get some you know, things of that nature. 85 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I think those are the two contestants from 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: the Chiefs and not. I'm not really interested in either 87 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: one of their running backs. 88 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: Hollywood Brown would be the guy who could catch a 89 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 3: deep one. 90 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: A deep one that's Goodworthy, that's good Worthy. Yeah. Worthy's 91 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: usage is pretty steady the last since Christmas, you know, yeah, 92 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: pretty strong. 93 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: If you're gonna who would then be your second, I 94 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: assume we're going to go with another. 95 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: I would go back to the eagle route. 96 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,679 Speaker 3: To me, it's DeVante Smith or Dallas Goddard. 97 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: I was I think it's a J. Brown. You think 98 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: he has the most I don't McDuffie doesn't follow right, 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: but he's kind of he is an outside dude. And 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: I don't think he's Deion Sanders either. I mean, I 101 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: think he's a good player. Yeah, But I think they're 102 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: they're splits are really strong man coverage, it goes to 103 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: a J. Brown. Zone coverage, it goes to Smith and 104 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: or Goddard. But I don't think. I'm almost certain. But 105 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: as they say, I might be a little off. I'm 106 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 2: not sure that there's a receiver that gets a higher 107 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: percentage of man coverage targets in the whole league than 108 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: AJ Brown. You know, they don't throw a lot, and 109 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 2: when they do, and it's man, they go to that guy. 110 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: And I think when they blitz a lot, you're gonna 111 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: get man behind it. And I also think that it's 112 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: going to be a somewhat man heavy team trying to 113 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: pressure Hurts, and I think Brown's that guy. If it 114 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: was this one's six thousand, this one's four thousand, I 115 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: would go Smith or Goddard. But if we're just picking 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: who I think the champs are. 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: If it's a heavy man though, this hurts run more. 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sure this Spikenole is going 119 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: to let that happen. I mean the hurts. His numbers 120 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: under pressure versus not are light years different. Yeah, like 121 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: as different as any quarterback out there. I think pressuring 122 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: him is going to be goal number one. However you 123 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 2: do it. And maybe that's just sporadic or third downs 124 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: or situational and this Chiefs d is really really good 125 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: at that. Doubt McDuffie follows. 126 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: To compensate for that that the egos put him on 127 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 3: the move more than. 128 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: Brown or Hurts. 129 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: Hurts, possibly roll him out and give him run, you know, 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 3: run pass option. If they're playing man and you're you're 131 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: rolling out to your right and there's fifteen yards in 132 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: front of you, take the fifteen yards. 133 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure they're not going to hesitate to have him run. Yeah, 134 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll design plenty of it, but I'm not 135 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 2: sure how that matters for his The other for this, 136 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: you know exercise, I think Brown's is a stud I 137 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: think we had Smith and Goddard in our lineup last 138 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: week or yesterday, but they were cheaper. Yeah, I mean, 139 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: I think both those guys could have nice days. 140 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 3: I just look at what Brown has done in the playoffs. 141 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: Now against Washington it was eight for nine or six 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: for ninety six. The week before that it was two 143 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: for fourteen. 144 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. 145 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the week before that was one for three. The 146 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: week before that was three for thirty six. 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Like, I mean, they don't throw the ball much. Yeah, 148 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: that's the problem to thing. I think this game too, 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: especially early, could be low scoring. Could be a lot 150 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: of and at the Barkley short throws, long sustained drives, 151 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: third and four you get five. You know, a lot 152 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: of plays in the drives, few possessions. I don't know 153 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: who that favors. And maybe I'm misreading this the style 154 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: of game, but it just seems like to me everyone 155 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: should have Barkley, Kelsey and Brown. They're the best guys. 156 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: I mean, they're the guys that produced the most yardage 157 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: most days. Oh, I do think we'reth these interesting. But 158 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: is that going to hit? That's the right right? Right now? Right? 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 3: Is the chock going to hit? Or are the people 160 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, I've never done this context. 161 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Either, right. I mean, if I'm sure on any of 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: the sites all these guys have over under total yardage numbers, 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: are they the highest ones? I would think so? I 164 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: mean Barkley definitely. 165 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a super Bowl and we typically, you 166 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: know a lot of times you see somebody else have 167 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: that big game. 168 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: Because the defensive case, we're Worthy. 169 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: The defensive coordinators have had the time to look at this, 170 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: They've had two weeks to prepare for this particular and 171 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: they're going to try to take away what the other 172 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: team does best. 173 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: And two exceptional defensive coordinators and two really really good defenses. 174 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: And I think the Eagles d can match up anywhere 175 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 2: with anybody, you know, the way that they're designed right now. 176 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: I think Worthy you'll get carries. I mean the might 177 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: be like short shovel passes in front of my homes, 178 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: but he's gonna get manufactured touches. 179 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: If you look at the yards per game which they 180 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: have here, Kelsey averaged over the course of the season 181 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: fifty three point three yards per game. Worthy was at 182 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: forty six point three. 183 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but of the course of the season. 184 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: But that's what I was going to say. If you 185 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: look at the last few. 186 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: Games, worthies come on strong. 187 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: He had he had one hundred and one total yards 188 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: against Buffalo. He had well, he had a run for 189 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: minus eight against Houston, but he had six or five 190 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 3: for forty five. Uh, he didn't play against Denver. Against 191 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: the Steelers, it was eight for seventy nine and two 192 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: carries for ten yards. 193 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: I like to look at KC numbers basically starting on Christmas. Yeah, 194 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: but then you have to eliminate week eighteen when they 195 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: all sat. They all sat it right. If you look 196 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: at Kelsey's numbers and he's a one down one against 197 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo was two for nineteen. The week before that against Houston, 198 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: it was seven for one seventeen. Against the Steelers, it 199 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: was eight for eighty four. Yeah. 200 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: Week before that against Houston it was five for thirty. 201 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: Against Cleveland it was four for twenty seven. Like which one? 202 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: You know, what do you trust here? 203 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: I guess we're trying to win this thing. Worthy has 204 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: a better chance to break the seventy yarder. Yeah, I 205 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: mean he's you know, and separate yourself from the back 206 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 2: of what most people are picking. Well, he'd be chucky. Now. 207 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: The things you're gonna ask you to say, again, we've 208 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: never played this format. Let's plug Worthy in. I'm cool 209 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: with that. 210 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 3: And do you want Brown? Yeah, or do you want 211 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 3: DeVante Smith? DeVante Smith? Over the last month basically they 212 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: don't throw, they don't brow enough. So do you go 213 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 3: Kelsey then you know Worthy Ankassie. 214 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I think Mahome's gonna throw it every time. My 215 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: favorite prop bets are over attempts, over completions, over on 216 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: the p Rhinds and Grays and guys like that that 217 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: have like one catch and you win. Yeah. I just 218 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: think that if I'm Andy Reid, mostly because of the 219 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: state of that offensive line, I don't want Tray Smith 220 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: blocking the Jalen Carter alone over and over. I don't 221 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: want Caliende having a deal with Williams. I don't trust 222 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: my tackles at all. 223 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 3: Here's the other or do you go Goddard? Goddard over 224 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: the last month basically hit he played up until Week 225 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 3: thirteen's He's played the last four games for the. 226 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 2: Eagles, and he's healthy, he's got He. 227 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: Had eighty five yards and thirteen rushing yards against Washington. 228 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 3: He had fifty six yards against the Rams. He had 229 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: forty seven yards against the Packers. He had fifty five 230 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: yards against the Giants. 231 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: Do we know, like from a fantasy perspective, how the 232 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: Chiefs are against tight ends? 233 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: They are in terms of yardage dead last in the NFL. 234 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: I was thinking they were middle of the pack or worse, 235 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: and they really are. 236 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 3: Overall, they were like twenty seventh when you factor in 237 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: the catches, and yeah, Fantasy thirty second in terms of 238 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 3: yardage yardage allowed to opposing tight ends. 239 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: I do think it's noteworthy, and I'm not sure it 240 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: changes my opinion either. Are two really really good tackling defenses, 241 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 2: which oh, by the way, folks, walking and tackling gets 242 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: you to Super Bowl. You like fundamentals matter, you know, 243 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: I mean I run to go back to that. I'm 244 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: a big goddard fan. I mean, I think he's one 245 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: of the most underrated players in the league, and when 246 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: he's healthy, he is a difference maker. He'll be Their 247 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: safeties and linebackers are fine, but they're not superstars. Chiefs, 248 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: what do you like? We're going Worthy in Barkley for sure, 249 00:11:59,080 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: right we. 250 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: Have Worthy and Barkley in the now we could go 251 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: got it and Kelsey. Mm hmm, he goes Barkley, got 252 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: her Kelsey? Or do you go Barkley. 253 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards two Chiefs the more we talk through this, 254 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: just because passing yards are better than rushing yards, and 255 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna throw a toime. Yeah, I think 256 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: i'd go Kelsey Worthy Barkley because when the Eagles throw, 257 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: all three of those guys deserve targets and one of 258 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 2: them might blow up. Of course. Yeah, I mean, I'm 259 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: not saying that. But then you're, you know, you're trying 260 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: to hit the roulette wheel. You know, it might be 261 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: how you win this thing. I don't know. 262 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: I don't right, I've never played this particular contest. 263 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: And I can't see many people picking p Ryan or Gainwell, 264 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: so they're only picking from five or six. Everybody's gonna 265 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 2: have Barkley. Everybody's in Barkley. How would you not? Yeah, 266 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: I mean I guess maybe some goofball wins if Barkley 267 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: gets hurt in the first quarter. 268 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: You know, but all right, we're gonna go with Barkley, 269 00:12:58,920 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: Worthy and Kelsey. 270 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Okay, receptions don't matter. We only care about yards. We 271 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 2: only care about yards. I'm more confident that these guys 272 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: will get a ton of receptions than a ton of yards. 273 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 2: It's a great tackling defense. I also don't think there'll 274 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: be a ton of points this game. 275 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't love it, but I still kind of 276 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 3: like Gotard a little bit, just to be a little 277 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 3: different because just if you convince me, but I don't know, 278 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: I don't know who to replace. 279 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: I'm less confident in Kelsey than I was when we 280 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: put the lineup in yesterday. My big thoughts then were 281 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: two weeks of you know, it would be good for 282 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: his body, his aging body. But I also think you 283 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 2: give the defense coordinator two weeks and their tight ender 284 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: racers are pretty good in the middle of the field, 285 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: even with the Kobe Dean out. 286 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you don't have the weapons on the outside 287 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: necessarily do right right keep them from doing that. 288 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: And I don't think after the catch is gonna be 289 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: Kelsey's friend like it usually is his team cat. You know, 290 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 2: tackles really really well. Goddard's really good. I'ma go with that. 291 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: You're gonna go got it instead of Kelsey. Yeah, that's fine. 292 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the numbers for over 293 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: the course of the season, he actually averaged more yards 294 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: per game than. 295 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: Kelsey, doesn't doesn't surprise. 296 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: And he's been some time the more active player in 297 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: the in the postseason, he's more active period. 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, at this stage of Kelsey's career. Yeah, 299 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: We don't care about touchdowns or any of that kind 300 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: of stuff you're talking about. Just trying toge who has 301 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: the most yardage works for me. All right, I'm gonna 302 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: lock it in. All right. 303 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: There we go, Barkley Worthy daughter, Okay, and we are 304 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 3: locked in. 305 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: All right? 306 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: All right, that was one way to talk. That is 307 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: a little different talk that through a little bit a 308 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: little different game. We'll see how that goes. Absolutely, let's 309 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson. I 310 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 3: am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 311 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back 312 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: with more right after this. 313 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: At least. 314 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 315 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 316 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation. 317 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the 318 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson and Matt. The NFL held its honors celebration 319 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: last night and got to find out all the winners 320 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: of all the different awards and everything, and people seem 321 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: to be up in arms over the fact that Josh 322 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: Allen won MVP. 323 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't get that. I mean, I think this 324 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: was as close a race as you're ever going to see. 325 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: And I think what came down to for a lot 326 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: of the voters and some of the angst out there 327 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: among the public was that, well, but Lamar was the 328 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: first team All Pro, how could he not be the 329 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: MVP as well? 330 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: They're not exactly the same thing. 331 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: It's not the same thing, right, right, It's which one 332 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: was the more valuable player to their team? 333 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and nine out of ten times it would be 334 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: the same player, of course, right, But this one's so close. 335 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: It's a slight discrepancy. 336 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of the vote, and I 337 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: don't know this for effect, I think, but a lot 338 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: of the voters looked at it the same way that 339 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: I did, in that which player had less help than 340 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: the other ones? 341 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 342 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you would have to agree that 343 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: was Josh Allen had less around him than Lamar Jackson did. 344 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean they both were ridiculously good at 345 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 2: eliminating bad plays. I mean that blows me away. With 346 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: Allen's career, where he came in the league as such 347 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 2: a wild stallion and then he became a total superstar 348 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: and you'd be like, that was a dumb decision, But 349 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: he had three amazing ones. Who cares those are gone? 350 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: I plays, aren't there anymore? No, I mean the good 351 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: ones are. Yeah, he doesn't take Saxon to turn the 352 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: ball over. I mean it's unbelievable, you know, by the way. 353 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: He's like a big part of the running game as well, 354 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 3: just as Jackson is. 355 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, And I do think Allan's supporting cast, especially 356 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 2: his line and Cook, are underrated, you know, in terms 357 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: of could have been pro bowler, Like there were a 358 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: lot of just miss in that group. But I do 359 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: agree that Jackson's was better, especially when you add Henry 360 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: to the mix. 361 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you put Henry on the bills, 362 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: it's like, oh yeah, then I'd probably vote for Jackson 363 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: if they had the similar stats because they were asked 364 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 3: to do more. 365 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, and I wonder too, are there 366 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: a lot of the same voters that vote for both honors? Yeah? Okay, yeah, 367 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's exact same voters. Is it the exaction voter? 368 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: Because frankly, if I was split, I might vote for 369 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 2: one for one and one for the other. 370 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: The argument that I don't get was that, I mean, well, 371 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 3: Jackson had the he had the best stats of anybody 372 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 3: did he because Joe Burrow led the league in passing. Yeah, 373 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 3: Lamar was sixth. I think Burrow had the best passing 374 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: stats of anything. Right, If we're just going to say 375 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: it's it's it's the most Burrow led the league in 376 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: touchdown passes. He had forty three. Jackson had forty one. 377 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: You know, so if we're just going to talk about 378 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: which quarterback had the best stats, I understand you get 379 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: Lamar's rushing stats count as well massively, but Burrow had 380 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: the better passing stats. Nobody's arguing that Burrow should have 381 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 3: won m VP. 382 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: No, because he shouldn't have, right, he couldn't even. 383 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: Because the winning part of it matters as well. Oh yeah, yeah, 384 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: and you got to look at the overall picture in here, 385 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 3: and it can't when when here's the thing. When Lamar 386 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 3: Jackson won last year without the stats, right, everybody looked 387 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: and so, yeah, but he did this and he but 388 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: now he has the stats, and everybody says, but but 389 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 3: he has he won because of the stats. Can They're 390 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: trying to argue it both ways. 391 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: I have actually had more of a problem with last 392 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: year's and Lamar would have got my vote last year too, 393 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: but I just didn't think it was very good group. 394 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: And and frankly, I think the Defensive Player of the 395 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: Year this year was similar where certain was great, of 396 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: course if you win the award. Last year, Lamar was great, 397 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: but it was a down year this year. There was 398 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: a lot of big hitters like Barkley doesn't even get consideration. 399 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Chase wins the triple crown, doesn't even get consideration, you know, 400 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 2: like they're they're distant fours and fives. I would imagine. 401 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think I think Allen won because 402 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: of the team around him. 403 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: No problem with that, Yeah, right, that's what it is. 404 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell, the Vikings said coach won the AP Coach 405 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 3: of the Year. 406 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm cool with it. That's fine right right there. There 407 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: was was a lot of upsets or anything to me 408 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: with the awards stuff. He's in two in the playoffs, 409 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: by the way, but these are these folks are cast 410 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. 411 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: Right Burrow the comeback Player of the Year, that's who cares. Uh. 412 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley the AP Offensive Player of the Year, and 413 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: he should. 414 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: Have won it. But I do think it's interesting that 415 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: Chase wins a triple crown and doesn't really even have 416 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: a shot. Ye, pretty good year. 417 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, certain was the defensive Player of the Year. 418 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: T J. 419 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: Watt finished fourth in that vote. Yeah, what should have 420 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 3: won it last year? 421 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: I agree? 422 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 3: I agree should have won it last year. It's a 423 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: crime that he didn't. But I understand. 424 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: Yeah this year, this year, I mean Hutchinson the day 425 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: he got hurt would have been the easy choice, and 426 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 2: frankly since part Since came back would have been an 427 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: easy choice. But neither of them played close to a 428 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 2: full year. 429 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: Jade Daniels the offensive Rookie of the. 430 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,239 Speaker 2: Year amongst a great class of rookies too, but he 431 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: is an obvious choice. 432 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: The defensive Rookie of the Year, Jared Verse. 433 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Not a surpris there either. I don't know if I 434 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: would have voted for him. I know, you're a bigger 435 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: fifth guy, I think, versus just a much better player. 436 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 3: I know I might have voted for Quinya Mitchell too. 437 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: I had to look at it. 438 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: He'd been my second choice. Yeah, yeah, I mean versus 439 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: four sacks. Yeah, I know, I like, I understand. 440 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh he had all these again, we're getting back to 441 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: the Miles Garrett argument. 442 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: Last year. 443 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: But he had all these pressures and yeah, some point 444 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: you gotta turned pressures into a sack. 445 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really impressive on tape. I get it. He's good. 446 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not good. I just don't know 447 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: that he was the guy. 448 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: And I thought that was a down group, which doesn't 449 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: shock us when no one in the top sixteen is 450 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: a defensive player drafted in the first round. Yeah. 451 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: Eric Armstead the Walter Payton Man of the Year, taking 452 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 3: that award this year after Cam Hayward won it last year. 453 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a good player, not as good at like 454 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 2: is Hayward and some of these dudes. But did a 455 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: little research on it. I guess every year that basically 456 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: he was a Niner. He was there, you know, their nominee, 457 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 2: and now he goes to the Jags and wins it, 458 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: and you know, good for him. That's a massive honor, 459 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: a massive honor. Yeah. 460 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: He also won the Great American Cooking Show last week. Yeah, 461 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl edition. He won that, so good for him, 462 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 3: Good for him. It was a well rounded human being, 463 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: your Pro Football Hall of Fame class. 464 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: This bothered me. The other stuff. I didn't lose a 465 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: lot of sleepover. 466 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: Guys got in, yeah, including one senior candidate. It was 467 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 3: Eric Allen, Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, and Sterling Sharp. Luke 468 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: Keikley did not make the cut. 469 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: Just to be frank, I mean, the senior committee is 470 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: just a lower bar, and I got no problem with 471 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: Sharp making it in that capacity. He was unbelievable, but 472 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: just for a short amount of stretches why he didn't 473 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: get in the FIR you know, with the first go 474 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: around Gates had to go or lost my mind, I 475 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: mean he was short changed last year. The positive when 476 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: we talked about this yesterday was I was frankly happy 477 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: that Eli and Vinitarry didn't go, and this looked like 478 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: a down class and the fact that they didn't take 479 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: five shows that it is a down class. I don't 480 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: think either Allan belongs and the fact that Keikley didn't 481 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: go really bothers me. 482 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: I think Jared Allen has a much better. 483 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: I think he is a better case of the two. 484 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of edge rushers with really similar resumes, 485 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: and yeah, I mean I just never thought he was 486 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: one of the best. 487 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: Jared Allen finished his career with one hundred and thirty 488 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: six crews. I know two different times he led the 489 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 3: league in sacks, including having twenty two in twenty eleven. 490 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean these are all great players. I mean, 491 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: obviously he wouldn't have got my Hall of Fame vote. 492 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 3: Though he had seven consecutive years in double ditch double sacks. Yeah, 493 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: he had eight overall in his career. He was First 494 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: team All Pro four times. I think he is pretty. 495 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: He definitely is a better case than Eric in myion. 496 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 3: Now, there were some stuff, you know, off the field, 497 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: stuff that I think some people may have dinged him 498 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: for in the past, but I don't have a problem 499 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 3: with him going I think he was maybe more of 500 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 3: a specialist. 501 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but so is Kevin Green. He was also 502 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: on some really good teams, playing with leads and things 503 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: like that too, which is fine too. I mean that's 504 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 2: not his fault, I don't. I thought it was kind 505 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 2: of a weak class, and well I don't disagree with that. Yeah, 506 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 2: I mean I think that's undisputable. 507 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: I think Keithley should have been a slam dunk. 508 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it bothers me to no end, especially in 509 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: a lighter class like this. Oh, we'll get him in 510 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: next year. We just can't put him in the. 511 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: First back, and none of the wide receivers made it again. 512 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: Again a name we haven't brought up, which I thought 513 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 2: was deserving that I wanted to mention yesterday, Mike Holmgrin 514 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,959 Speaker 2: should be in the Hall of Fame and coaches are 515 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: a weird barometer, of course, but I think that's a 516 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame code. 517 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: I think you know they changed the voting somewhat this 518 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: year as well, in terms of how they did things. 519 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: I found this out yesterday that you voted, you cut 520 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: it down to ten and then they cut it down 521 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: to seven. You had to finish in the top seven. 522 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: If you finished in the top seven voting, even though 523 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 3: if you didn't get the eighty. 524 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: Percent, okay, then you're eligible. 525 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: You automatically go to the final fifteen again next year. 526 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know any of that. Yeah. Interesting, Now 527 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: along those lines, you mentioned it off the air. The 528 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: MVP voting is different now. 529 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you now have as opposed to the previous years 530 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: where you just voted for and MVP, now you voted 531 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: out five guys deep so. 532 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: For example, and are getting picked. They did that at 533 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 2: every spot. Yeah. 534 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, the AP actually made the voting available you can 535 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 3: check that out if you do a little Google work 536 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: on that. You know who voted for what. So for example, 537 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 3: Danny Smith got a couple of votes for Assistant Coach 538 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: of the Year, Arthur Smith got a vote for yeah, 539 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: assistant Coach of the Year. Cam Hayward got votes for 540 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year as well as as TJ. 541 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 2: Watt may not be top five right votes right where 542 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have in the former format. 543 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: Hayward and Russell Wilson both got votes for Comeback Player 544 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 3: of the Year. 545 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Oh okay, interesting, So yeah, yeah, it's. 546 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 3: Just it opens it up, and you know, it takes 547 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: away some of the argument that you used to hear. Well, 548 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: you know Ben Roethlisberger never got. 549 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: Any MVP votes. 550 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: Well when when Ben Roethlisberger was playing, you only voted 551 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: for one. 552 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: Right, right? You know, there was one year that Mahomes 553 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: Mahomes his best year. I think there was like fifty 554 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: votes and forty nine and went to him because it 555 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: was obvious, you know, like you're kind of a jag. Yeah, 556 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: the guy who didn't vote, the one who's like right, 557 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 2: And so one other person that year got to vote 558 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: other than Mahomes, and really none should have right, and 559 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: that happens all the time. Like this year, I bet 560 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: almost fifty fifty should have been Alan or Jackson in 561 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: the old format. 562 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 3: It did open some things up for some craziness. For example, 563 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: Alex Van Pelk got a vote for Assistant Coach of the. 564 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: Year, then that I get fired. It was a fifth 565 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: place vote. 566 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 3: He got fired during the season because Cleveland in their 567 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: finish this season, in their first ten games, didn't score 568 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: twenty more than twenty points. 569 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: Offensive his fault or not, he could be doing Yeoman's work. 570 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: The results are horrendous, but the results were horrendous, and 571 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: he got fired because of him last the season. That 572 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: would have been like Matt Canada getting votes last year, 573 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: exactly exactly. That's insane to me. Yeah, that's might have 574 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: to evaluate the value. Yeah, who was who? Who did that? 575 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: Who did that one? You're not just going to vote 576 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: for your body Van Pelt did that one or something? Right. 577 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on there. 578 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 3: But anyways, that that's who kind of that's who won. 579 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: You will see here in terms of next year's Hall 580 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: of Fame class. 581 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 2: You're looking at so anyone that came in the top 582 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: seven will be right to the finals next year. Yeah, 583 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: I hope Heekley is one of those. 584 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 3: I would imagine. I believe that he is. Yeah, I'm 585 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 3: looking here real quick here. Drew Brees will be among 586 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 3: the players next year. I know he's in big hitters 587 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: going first time eligibles. You're also looking at, uh. 588 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: What else we got here? 589 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: Marquise Pouncy is up next year. Interesting, Geno Adkins, Breeze 590 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: will go, Frank Gore, Jason Yeah, Jason Witton, Larry Fitzgerald. 591 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: He's in. I think Witting is pretty close to in. Yeah, 592 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 2: so there's some to tight ends tough, real tough. Yeah, 593 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: I mean Witt and Gates are pretty similar. And Gates 594 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: can go the first year. 595 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I would. But Philip Rivers 596 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 3: also eligible next year. 597 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm a fan, but he's gonna have a tough go 598 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: against the quarterbacks going forward. 599 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: Back, all coming forth, all guys who have won Super Bowls. 600 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 2: Right, and he didn't, but he would get my vote. 601 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: But I feel like coming to minority. 602 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: And sometimes they for whatever reason, right or wrong, they 603 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: bock at putting two guys in from the same position 604 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 3: because they want to give their This guy. 605 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: Is his year, which this is great news for Eli. 606 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 2: I would think it's not you know, I mean I 607 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 2: would put. 608 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: River because you got you got, you got Breeze, then 609 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: you go, you got Brady, you got Roethlisberger. Yeah, the 610 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 3: ros are coming up right, you know, and who knows, 611 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: you may have soon there after Aaron Rodgers. 612 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 2: Rogers soon. There's a lot of great ones that have 613 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: retired in the last five years. Yeah, and you'll still 614 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: have Breezes, You'll still have Manning there, You'll still have 615 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: Rivers there. It's like, you know, when do I get 616 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: my shot? It is weird that they sometimes don't put 617 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 2: two of the same position. 618 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you could just take the entire two thousand and 619 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: four rookie draft class quarterback draft class and say, okay, 620 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: this is their year, and just let them all go 621 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 3: in together. 622 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: It might happen, could Yeah, probably not. You also have 623 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: I would imagine Larry's a first ballot guy too, Bill Belichick. 624 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 2: Next year. Coaches don't last as wait as long, right, 625 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: they don't have to wait as long now because they're older. Yeah, right, 626 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: and hopefully they're stay alive for you know all that. 627 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: You know what I'm going in after they passed away. 628 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 3: Did you see him showing up last night with all 629 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: of his Super Bowl rings on? 630 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: No, it is I saw it. 631 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 3: I didn't watch the event, but I watched it on 632 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: the unfold on on the ex Twitter and he had. 633 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: It was all joeled up. Okay, yeah, had the way 634 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: down a little bit. 635 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: He looked like he was a money lender back in 636 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: the her shylock or something. 637 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: Okay, got all the bling on. Gotta recruit n see. Yeah, 638 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: different world now, different world. 639 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: Had his girlfriend even showed up with him? She had 640 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl ring on? 641 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: Did she well earned? Hey letter borrow? 642 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyways, let's get there break. He is da Matt Williamson. 643 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here 644 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. When Matt and I come back, 645 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: we're going to make our Super Bowl picks. 646 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: Okay, right after this in the least. 647 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 648 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and 649 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: Golds in Steelers Nation Radio. 650 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: And we are back Eye Dale Lolly. 651 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the drive 652 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. You can hear the drive 653 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: here every Monday through Friday from four to six pm 654 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 3: right here in these very airwaves. You can also download 655 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 3: the Steelers mobile app. 656 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: And my man Tyler, Yeah is here today, right. He 657 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 2: had a little. 658 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: Incident yesterday, couldn't be here. We bailed him out of 659 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 3: prison and he is here. That's not true. I just 660 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: made that part up. But he is here today, and 661 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 3: so there will be a video of the show today 662 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: on YouTube. 663 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: You can check that out later on today. 664 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: But final segment of the week, Final segment of the week, 665 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: Super Bowl week, Matt, we got to make our picks. 666 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 3: We've talked about the game a little bit here. Yeah, 667 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: over the course of the week. Not a great deal. 668 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 3: But if you want to have a say here and 669 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: talk about the game at more length, have got it. 670 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: I'm really intrigued with it. I think it's a really 671 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: good matchup, and I understand there's redundancy and nobody wants 672 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs to rival the Steelers dynasty and all that stuff. 673 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: I like watching good football, and I think that's gonna 674 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: be really good football. And I think it's the best 675 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 2: roster in the league against the best quarterback I've ever seen. 676 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 2: I can't bet against the Chiefs, though, I mean, if 677 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: you're gonna give Reid two weeks to prepare, and I 678 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a massively Mahome centric offensive game 679 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: plan with very little running, get out of his hands, 680 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: super quick, et cetera, et cetera. You know, two point 681 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: one against the Steelers. We've seen him do it. But 682 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: I don't like the Chiefs sow line situation at all, 683 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 2: which I think is why it's coming out so quick. 684 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: And I don't think they're gonna try to move people 685 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: off the ball. You know, their tackles. Tone's a great guard, 686 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: but he's not a great left tackle. There are alow 687 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: average tackle yeah, exactly. And their guards I think are 688 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: gonna have a long day against Williams and Carter and 689 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: back seven. That defense is really good too, and they 690 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: tackle great and I could especially in the first half. 691 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be a lot of points. 692 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be kind of a slog. But 693 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: that's how the Chiefs like to play. 694 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: A lot of jebs, thrownmakers. 695 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 2: No haymakers. Yeah, that's how the Chiefs play, though, and 696 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: they want few possessions and they do it really, really well, 697 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 2: and they've been there, done it, and I think that 698 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: has a lot of stock in the Super Bowl, not 699 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: that some of these Eagles guys haven't been there, but 700 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: it's an ordeal and these guys go every year, and 701 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: it's how the Patriots handle that really well for years. 702 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: I think Spags will make some plays on defense, you know, 703 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: But I also think Barkley could get free here and there. 704 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: They have really, really good weapons. I think it's a 705 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 2: pretty evenly matched battle. But I had the Chiefs win 706 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: in twenty four to twenty three, and I'm worried I 707 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: have too many points in my prediction. It could be 708 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: seventeen sixteen. 709 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of I like the under as well. Yeah, 710 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 3: I know everybody likes to see it over in the 711 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: m S with the numbers forty eight and a half. 712 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: Okay, I am under that. 713 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're barely under I'm even a little 714 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: slightly under that. 715 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you. 716 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: I think both of these teams played a little closer 717 00:32:59,640 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 3: to the Vans. 718 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, ball control, ball. 719 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 3: Control, trying not to make the big mistake, because you know, 720 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: I think for both of these teams, you're looking across 721 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage and you're saying Okay, that's a 722 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: really good offense that we're playing. 723 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: But they're also really good defenses. Yeah, two defensive coordinators 724 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: are top of the league, and you know, yeah, so. 725 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 3: You know which team blinks first, which team makes the 726 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 3: big mistake? You know, I just don't know that that 727 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: will be Mahomes in this situation again, is what is 728 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: fifth super Bowl? 729 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Right? You get pretty used to it. 730 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know the pressure is not going to 731 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: get to him. I do think Jalen Hurts has played 732 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: better in the playoffs. 733 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, his last game was really impressive. Then he then 734 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 2: he had a super Bowl game against He's really good too, 735 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: But he is the more one who's more up and down, 736 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: and he doesn't handle pressure particularly well or you. 737 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, but Barkley is a game changer, absolutely. You know, 738 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 3: their lines legit. 739 00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: Obviously. 740 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: My biggest complaint about the Eagles is that I can't 741 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: believe that they don't use Barkley more in the passing game. 742 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: It's I think it's a Hurts thing. Yeah, instead of 743 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: dumping it, he runs. I just think, you know, just 744 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: an underutilized portion of bark It would make so much sense, 745 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 2: is just dump the ball off to Barkley. As opposed 746 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: to your quarterback running with the ball, and he's the 747 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: game breaker. And I don't understand why they don't do 748 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: that more. They haven't necessarily needed it. No, No, maybe 749 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: that with two weeks of prepare they do design more 750 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: of it and and he's so much more capable of 751 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: just dumping it off. I mean, you can design route 752 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: concepts for him and you know McCaffrey s type stuff, 753 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 2: Camara stuff, you know. Yeah, they haven't tapped into that now. 754 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 2: It's more of a hurts thing. 755 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that concerns me with the Eagles game plan. 756 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 3: I also am a little concerned. They had some illness 757 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 3: going through their team. They share the Chiefs, did. 758 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: Not they seem healthier of the two. 759 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Jalen Carter was was, you know ill this week. 760 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like the whole country's right now too. 761 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: You know, DeVante Smith was dealing with some stuff. So 762 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 3: some of their guys, some of their key players were 763 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: dealing with some stuff. 764 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 2: And I know that they're off the injury report now, 765 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,720 Speaker 2: but I don't want Dickerson bouncing between guard and center 766 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 2: and hobbling around. And I know it's only two weeks, 767 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: but that looked like a pretty significant injury and Jurgons 768 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: missed before. I'm sure they're good to go, and yeah, start, 769 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 2: but you think Jones is going to test that? Of course? 770 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 2: Of course, right and heard some deal with interior pressure 771 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: great can see also has a little bit of special 772 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 2: team's advantage, better kicker, especially from distance, but overall they're 773 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: ranked higher in the special teams world. 774 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just come down to the experience factor with this. 775 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: I have the I have the Chiefs winning this twenty 776 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 3: three to twenty. 777 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I'm very similar. I think it's going to 778 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: be that kind of guy. Me too, And if it 779 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: comes down to the last possession, I'm betting on the 780 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 2: dudes in red. 781 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 3: And to your point about the kickers, I think if 782 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 3: it comes down to a kick, yeah, I just trust 783 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 3: Butcker way more bymore then I trust Elliott. 784 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: Elliott has been really struggling from fifty and beyond, which 785 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll push push their way through four thousands 786 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: and stuff like that too, But who knows. I think 787 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 2: this would be a really good game, I really do. 788 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 2: I think I don't think that the Eagles have no 789 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 2: chance or no. 790 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 3: I think the Eagles have the best roster in the league. Yeah, 791 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 3: but I think that the Chiefs have a huge advantage 792 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: of quarterback huge. 793 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: And that could be the big game experience is massive. Yeah, 794 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 2: and read with two weeks to prepare, I think goes 795 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: a long way. 796 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: And as we talked about earlier in the week, I 797 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 3: do think these offenses are good. They're not the best 798 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 3: offenses in the league, but the defenses are both really good, 799 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: really good, which is why I think really well, I 800 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: think you know, you're talking talking about two of the 801 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,479 Speaker 3: top four scoring defenses in the league. 802 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, two of the best interior defenders in the league, 803 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: a couple of top notch corners. Not a lot of 804 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 2: weaknesses on defense either. I'm not sure where you attack 805 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: these two defenses time and time again. What do you 806 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: pick on over and over and over. 807 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 3: As part of that, And it goes back to your 808 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 3: ball control statement. These teams both play really good ball 809 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: control styles and that helps the defenses massively. It's one 810 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 3: of the it's one of the Steelers shortcomings this year. Yep, 811 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: it was that their offense didn't oftentimes help the defense. Yeah, 812 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 3: you got you gotta keep your best defense is standing 813 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 3: on the sideline and a lot watching your offense. You 814 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: think about back to the Eagles game against the Steelers 815 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 3: where they just had the ball the last ten minutes 816 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: of the game. 817 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: Yep, Yeah, I think ball control is massive in this game. 818 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: I think Kansas City will achieve it with short passing 819 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: and the Eagles will achieve it with ground game. I 820 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: don't know who will win time of possession, but I 821 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 2: both think they will have long sustained drives. Yeah. 822 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 3: The Chiefs are really good on third downs. The Eagles 823 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 3: are really good on fourth downs. 824 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. 825 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, and because a lot of times they're fourth and one, 826 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 3: fourth and two and they. 827 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: Just all right, we're just gonna and they know on 828 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: third down we're probably going to go for setting it up. Yeah, 829 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: let's get ourselves in fourth and manageable. If we, you know, 830 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: don't achieve it hurts. Is hard to deal with too. 831 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean as a runner, for sure, Yes, to have 832 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 2: a big game, he has to have a huge game. 833 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: A lot is on his shoulders. 834 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you go into this game thinking, again, 835 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 3: he knows of course cot homes on the quarterback in 836 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. 837 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: You don't. 838 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: You don't line up opposite of that guy. But you're 839 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 3: you know who you're playing against. 840 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean another note that I don't know if 841 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: it will matter or not, but there their turnover differential 842 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: in the playoffs for the Eagles is ten to zero 843 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 2: and a lot of them are fumbles that just they 844 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 2: happened to a little bit a lot of fumble luck there, 845 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: you know. And they have been the better team. That's 846 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,279 Speaker 2: not why they get in there. They didn't back their 847 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 2: way into the super Bowl. But the balls on the 848 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 2: ground a couple times, I don't know if they're going 849 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 2: to recover four of them, all of them, you know 850 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 2: what I mean? Right, I bet there's just a little 851 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 2: bit of you know that kind of stuff. 852 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But we'll be back on Monday. 853 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 2: So we're not talking about refs on Monday. Yeah. 854 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to be talking about that either, right, 855 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: But we'll be back on Monday. We'll see whether we're right. 856 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: We'll check out our dfs lineup, see how those did. 857 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: That'll be interested to see how the one we did 858 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 3: today did, because I have no idea about that concast, 859 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 3: but that's going to do what we want to. 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