1 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in over the addition 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: of the lake Kick Extra podcast Tuesday, October nineteenth, year 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: of our Lower twenty twenty one. I like to bring 4 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: you good news, but I gotta be real with you. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Bad news all around this morning. What if I told 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: you I just turned on my heat for the first 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: time in the apartment, and that's not even the worst 8 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: of the news. What if I told you I was 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: having to turn on the heat because I don't normally 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: have any AC or heat on, and I woke up 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: this morning and it was cold. Yes, you noticed the 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: keyword there, morning, because that's the second piece of bad news. Friends. 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: Sure enough, as I tweeted out last night, I'm about 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: to record, get me the questions I'm about to record. 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: I waited until the next morning to record, So here 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: we go, the usual morning peanut butter in the back 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: of the throat mode. I don't know how you deal 18 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: with it. If I were you, I'd take my phone 19 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: and I'd crow up and chunk it in the nearest river. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: One of you was kind enough last week to say, 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really notice the difference in the 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: sound of the voice. I appreciate that Stephanie. I really 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: appreciate that her name was Stephanie, by the way, but 24 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I think we can all acknowledge this sounds different now. 25 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Having said that, I'm gonna hopefully make the podcast good 26 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: enough this morning to where it's worthwhile for you. What 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: if I told you, by the way, here's a little 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: tease for you, what if I told you that as 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: ugly as that scene was at Tennessee Saturday night, it 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: almost got a whole lot uglier. Yes, I've saved up 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: a lot of stories. I've saved up a lot of 32 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: on field observations from that scene between Ole Miss and Tennessee, 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: and I'm going to share them with you this morning. 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: So what are we doing here? This is the Late 35 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: Kick Extra podcast. We do this one every Tuesday and 36 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: Thursday morning. This is different than what we do on YouTube. 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Same guy, but it's different. It's all mail bag, it's 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: all Q and A. Our numbers, guys are through the roof, 39 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: through the roof, above and beyond wildest expectations. So thank 40 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: you for that at Late Kick Josh. If you want 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: to send questions Instagram, Twitter at Late Kick Josh. How 42 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: about that Instagram story Saturday. By the way, I was 43 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: showing you, guys as much as I possibly could. I mean, 44 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: there was some stuff I couldn't show you, but I 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: was showing you as much behind the scenes as I 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: possibly could and still be responsible. And a lot of 47 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: you noticed. WHOA, this is a little bit more access 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: than I'm used to seeing. Don't quite think I got 49 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: all that on SEC network. Well, that's the benefit of 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: following there, Twitter and Instagram at late Kick Josh, that's 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: also obviously where you can submit the questions and I 52 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: can confirm for you we do have a loaded, loaded 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: mailbag full of questions this morning. Let's dive a right 54 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: end storytime coming momentarily. But first, game Cock said, you 55 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: aren't unclear at all with your feelings on undefeated Coastal 56 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: Carolina will not sniff the playoff. I'm not saying you're wrong, 57 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: but will you please explain why? Strength of schedule I suppose, 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: but what about when everyone around them keeps losing? Well, 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: you're right, game Cop, I mean that is the beginning 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: and the ending for me. Coastal Carolina is a team 61 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: to me that entered twenty twenty one, and if I 62 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: were running the committee, which I'm not yet, I fully 63 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: believe I should be on it, but I'm not yet. 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: But if I were running the playoff committee, I would 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: take a team like Coastal Carolina, and because of their schedule, 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: not because of the team, that's always the important distinction, 67 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Because of their schedule, I would place them over in 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: a do not touch category, meaning, no matter what you do, 69 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: because of the inferiority of the schedule you play, there's 70 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: nothing you could ever accomplish against this schedule that would 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: prove you belong in a playoff. This has always been 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: my pushback against any G five team making the playoff. 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Now this is where the nuance really really starts to 74 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: work itself in because this year is the first time 75 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: I've ever sounded different on this, because Cincinnati is the 76 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: first team that I have ever believed could buck that. 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: Because Cincinnati is the first team given the current landscape, 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one landscape, you can't just judge it 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: against all of history. It has to be judged against 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: that year's set of circumstances. And the bottom line is 81 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: in this year's set of circumstances, with the acc completely 82 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: out of the running and the PAC twelve completely out 83 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: of the running, when it comes to providing a playoff team. 84 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: We're already looking at a situation where we have a 85 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: maximum of three Power five conferences that are going to 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: be represented. Now, how many teams from those Power five 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: conferences that's the question right now. But I believe with 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: that being the case, and with Cincinnati having already beaten 89 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: a couple of Power five teams on the road, that 90 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: I both respected the wins over at the time, and 91 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, I freeze value of wins. I don't devalue 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: your win afterwards if a team keeps losing, because there's 93 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: all kinds of flawed logic in that. So they went 94 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame, they went to Indiana, they won those. 95 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: If they win the AAC and they're undefeated in doing so, 96 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: they will have gone the distance and run the table, 97 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: gotten the Power five wins out of the way, and 98 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: been blemish free, and won a conference title in a 99 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: conference whose profile in twenty twenty one has a level 100 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: of respectability on par with lower level Power five conferences. 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: You would have, in other words, accomplished everything that I 102 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: believe is the minimum baseline to warrant consideration for a 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: playoff spot. So Cincinnati would be in so This is 104 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: not a blanket G five thing to me, but it 105 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: is a minimum, baseline, standard thing, and the bottom line 106 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: is listen to this. I mean, I want you guys 107 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: to listen to this for a second, because I know, 108 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: goodwell you don't just have Coastal Carolina schedule handy. But 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to explain to you here if the Tampa 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Bay Bucks were to descend to college football, I would 111 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: also say the same thing about them if they play 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 1: this schedule. So it has nothing to do with the team. 113 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: It's truly about having to face the minimum challenge necessary 114 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: for me to think you have earned a spot. This 115 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: is Coastal's schedule. Citadel Kansas, Buffalo, UMass, Louisiana, Monroe, Arkansas State, 116 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: Appalachian State. They play them tonight as I'm recording, Troy, Georgia, 117 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: Southern Georgia State, Texas State, South Alabama. Care if you 118 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: win every game one hundred and fifty to nothing. I'm 119 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: not lying about this. I do not care. If you 120 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: hang triple digits on every team there, you will not 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: have even had the opportunity to prove you belong in 122 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: a playoff. It's just it's irrelevant to me at that 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: point what the results are. I would literally value a 124 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: three or even a four loss team from the Big 125 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Ten or the SEC over that, because even a three 126 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: or four loss team in those conferences with four losses 127 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: on their resume, their most impressive win will still be 128 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: better than your most impressive win. And that's a fact. 129 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: How crazy is that? That's a fact. Could you could 130 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: play Arkansas schedule and Arkansas could have four losses and 131 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: still even with the four losses, their most impressive win 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: would have come against a team infinitely higher in a 133 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: power rating scale than the best team on your schedule. 134 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: So I know what the natural pushback is to that. 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: The natural pushback if you're driving around Conway, South Carolina today, 136 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: or if you're driving around anywhere in America and you 137 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: have a G five bumper sticker, you say, okay, well 138 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you want them to do? I mean, they can only 139 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: play the games that are on their schedule. You're right, 140 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm not blaming you. You never heard me blame you. 141 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: You're not the one who structured this thing to where 142 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina is playing presumably the same level of football 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: that Ohio State University is. That's not your fault. That 144 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: is someone else's fault. That is several someone else's fault. 145 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I've made my voice crystal clear on this. You should 146 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: have two separate bodies. You should have I mean, think 147 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: about it. We already refer to them differently. You refer 148 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: to them as Power five G five. Well, it is 149 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: my opinion you should have a postseason structure for Power 150 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: five and a post season structure for G five. Because 151 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: I meet you guys halfway. I also think it's ludicrous 152 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: that you could enter a season and have people like 153 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: me saying it doesn't matter if you're going to feeded, 154 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to play for the championship, 155 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Like that's so stupid. I understand that. The great misconception is, 156 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: I know some of you believe people like me who 157 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: aren't for G five teams typically being in the playoff, 158 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: you think we don't get that principle or that logic. 159 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: I get it, crystal clear. It's insane. It's asinine that 160 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: going undefeated could still not be good enough, especially when 161 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: teams with losses on their schedule get in before you. 162 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: I get all that. The only difference I think between 163 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: the argument I'm making and maybe the argument some of 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: you make is we don't disagree on the problem, we 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: disagree on the solution. The solution is in understanding the obvious. 166 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: The solution is in acknowledging there's a difference between that 167 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: local dirt strip two miles down the road from my 168 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: house and the Daytona five hundred. Instead of saying, well, 169 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: racing's racing. You know whether you want at East Alabama 170 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: Motor Speedway or you want it Talladega. Well, if you're 171 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: a winner, you're a winner. Like that makes no sense whatsoever. 172 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina or utsay, they certainly deserve the chance to 173 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: win a national championship. They also deserve the opportunity to 174 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: fairly do it. It wouldn't be fair to them or 175 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: to the University of Alabama to pretend they're playing at 176 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: the same level, the same sport. They're playing the same sport, 177 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: just like racing is racing. You win a high school 178 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: track meet, Usain Bolt sets a world record, Okay, you 179 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: guys both want a race. That's about what we're talking 180 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: about here. Maybe a little more extreme example, but I 181 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: don't really care that Coastal is gonna have the same record, 182 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: maybe as the University of Georgia That does not mean 183 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 1: they're equal, nor does it mean they belong on a 184 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: field to find out whether one is better than the other. No, 185 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: we know, I can promise you we already know. I 186 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: don't need to see it, so I know I go 187 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: a little long on this. It's not that I'm anti 188 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: underdog or anti little guy. I'm pro logic. Logic would 189 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: set up an entire separate G five playoff so that 190 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: we could watch something that makes sense, because arguing that 191 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: Coastal Carolina should be in the same postseason as Georgia 192 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: does not make sense. I can't believe you, guys. Let 193 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: me go ten minutes on that, nearly ten minutes. We're 194 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: better than this. I'm better than that. You're better than that. 195 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: All right. So this weekend I was in Knoxville. Fifty 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: million of you, maybe a little bit less, maybe forty 197 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: nine million, but several of you asked about what I saw, 198 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: what it was like, did you get hit in the 199 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: head with a bottle? All sorts of different questions coming 200 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: in about my experience and the Renaissance tour rolling into Knoxville. Well, 201 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: let me first tell you the good parts. The good 202 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: parts are Tennessee was really good. To us, and I 203 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: met a ton of you. I met a ton of 204 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: you the last couple of games. I've been at Alabama 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: and Tennessee, and I've met a ton of you. So 206 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: those are the good parts. The bad parts are not 207 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: really bad parts. I mean, it's not like in the 208 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. I was a correspondent in war 209 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: torn Poland it wasn't really all that bad. Guys. I 210 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: know it was a bad scene so relative to college football, 211 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: yet it was bad. But can we please be real 212 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: with each other for a second, Even if you hate Tennessee, 213 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: even if Tennessee is your biggest rival, or maybe you're 214 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: an old miss fan and you were there that night 215 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: and you're rooting against them, can we please be real 216 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: for a second. Yes, yes, it was a bad scene. 217 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: It's inexcusable. The behavior is inexcusable. But did you notice 218 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: how excited some of these national legacy media types were, 219 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean, how excited were they to jump up out 220 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: of their chairs and wag their finger at you and 221 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: excoriate you the entirety of the Tennessee fan base, And 222 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: like two or three dozen of them did it in Unison, 223 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: almost like they had the tweet saved as a draft, 224 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: and they were just waiting for the situation to arise. 225 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: Like that clown show at the La Times Sports section 226 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: talking about Atlanta Braves fans man, they're so ready to 227 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: paint with a broad brush when it's convenient for them. 228 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: They are so ready to paint with that broad brush 229 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 1: as long as that target's aimed at somewhere located in 230 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: the Southeastern United States. I just want to tell you, guys, 231 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I know that our show has grown rapidly because of this, 232 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: so a lot of you don't need to be told this. 233 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: That wasn't a Tennessee thing. When I say that wasn't 234 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: a Tennessee thing, I mean it wasn't unique in the 235 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: response just because it was Tennessee. They'd do that to 236 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: any of you out there. There are people who cover 237 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: this sport that don't really like the sport. There are 238 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: people who claim to be serving you that really can't 239 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: stand you. You're just a means to an end for them. 240 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: A lot of times in the past you had to 241 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: stomach it because there were no other options out there. 242 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: But now there are other options to get your college 243 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: football fix. You don't need that anymore. They realize you 244 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: don't need it. You want to know how they realize it. 245 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: They realize it because of what is called a traffic report, 246 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: and they get them or their bosses do every Monday 247 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: or Tuesday. Everyone on the editorial side of things, everyone 248 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: in the management side of things in this industry, they're 249 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: looking at those traffic numbers and those legacy types. Not 250 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: all Please don't think I'm painting with a broad brush here, 251 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: not all of them. There's some great ones out there, 252 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: the ones I grew up reading I still love to read. 253 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: But there are some others. And I'm intentionally not naming 254 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: names here because I don't want to go down that road. 255 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: But you know who I'm talking about. Those folks have 256 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: strained so hard to look down their nose at you 257 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: their entire careers, and honestly viewed the biggest struggle of 258 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 1: their week as walking through the masses to get to 259 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: their press spots, not even wanting to have to rub 260 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: shoulders with you in the process. Those folks see their 261 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: audience dwindling. It's a fraction of what it once was 262 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: when they were the only option on the block. They're 263 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: not the only option on the block anymore. So. All 264 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: I'm telling you is. That's what my first observation was. 265 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: In the immediate aftermath. I was watching it happen. I 266 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: was disgusted with it. I was on the field. I'm 267 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: about to tell you about it. I was watching it. 268 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: I knew how ugly a scene it was. I know 269 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: the standards that we want to hold this sport to, 270 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: and that didn't meet it. I get all that, But 271 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: what I don't get is how someone with enough intelligence 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: to lock themselves down a job covering the greatest sport 273 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: in the world can be ignorant enough to, in their language, 274 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: categorize an entire fan base as a bunch of knuckle 275 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: dragon neanderthals. I can tell you what I saw. I'm 276 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: not sitting up there in that press box with them. 277 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm right down on the field. I was standing facing 278 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: the crowd as that stuff rained down on the field. 279 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what it looked like. What it 280 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: looked like is random bottles would appear from the mass 281 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: of humanity. You normally don't see who threw them, but 282 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: you see a bunch of stuff coming out of the crowd, 283 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: and you see nine tenths of the crowd looking around 284 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: to try and find out where it's coming from. It's 285 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: not most doing it, it's not even a quarter doing it. 286 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: It's a very very small number. There are several hundred 287 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: bottles on that field. Okay, we had one hundred and 288 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: two some one thousand people in there, and I got 289 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: a little working theory here, But some people threw more 290 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: than one bottle. Let me just throw that out there. 291 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: So you did not have a fifty to fifty split 292 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: in the crowd. You didn't even have a twenty eighty 293 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: split in the crowd. You had like a one ninety 294 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: nine split in the crowd of folks throwing versus folks 295 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: looking around, not participating, and in a lot of cases 296 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: outright disgusted with it themselves, because, believe it or not, 297 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: fan bases have pride about themselves. Fan bases expect their 298 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: own in stadium environment and presentation nationally to meet a 299 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: certain standard. Most Tennessee fans were pissed at it. So, yeah, 300 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: it rubbed me the wrong way. There was a lot 301 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: of garbage thrown down there. It Well, I didn't really 302 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: mind that I had to duck from it, because I 303 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: don't view myself as all that important in the grand 304 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: scheme of things. But yeah, it rubbed me the wrong 305 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: way that I had to dodge some things here and there. 306 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: But listen, what rubbed me even more the wrong way 307 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: was watching certain elements of the college football media apparatus 308 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: shift into overdrive, trying to gaslight an entire fan base 309 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: and paint an entire fan base as lesser than because 310 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: of what a few morons did. You may think I 311 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: sound like a Tennessee fan right now. No, it's not 312 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: that I'm a college football fan, but more along the 313 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: lines of how you view the sport than how some 314 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: of my colleagues view the sport. Because I grew up 315 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: with you, I did not grow up with them. My 316 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: background looks a lot more like yours than like theirs. 317 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: I've told that story many times on this show, but 318 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Saturday it was Tennessee fans. The reason I'm telling you 319 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying this is a college football fan is cause 320 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: next week it'll be you, and then the week after 321 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: that it'll be someone else. The moment a small, small 322 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: sliver of a fraction of your fan base does something dumb, 323 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: you better believe that lightsaber will be turned on your 324 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: fan base. They don't respect you or care to know 325 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: your side of the story. It's kind of like in 326 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: the record business back in the seventies, there was a 327 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: very very famous record executive that was loosely quoted as saying, 328 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, this would be a great industry if not 329 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: for the artists. And that's literally the way a lot 330 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: of record executives feel like. We're making so much money 331 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: over here, boy, the only real trouble we have is 332 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: those artists. If we just didn't have to deal with 333 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: those artists, life would be great. And then you have 334 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: someone over here who is of the age of five 335 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: and has developed the cognitive ability to think critically, who 336 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: might tug on record executive's shoulder and say, excuse me, 337 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: mister record executive, don't you only exist because of the artists? 338 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: And the record executive says, get out of here. We 339 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: are running a soup kitchen, Get off my porch, go away. 340 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: Same deal, mister tenured college football media personality, Don't you 341 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: only exist because of those fans? Crickets, crickets, crickets. So 342 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: what was it like? What was it like on the field, Well, 343 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: here's what I have told you so far. I've showed 344 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: you the video and you've seen the Leaden Kiffin Odell 345 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: Beckham catching the designe bottle full of questionable substance. You've 346 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: seen all that, and you saw how the game ended. 347 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: It was a surreal scene. But let me walk you 348 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: through what was happening in those final minutes. And there's 349 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: another part that you don't know yet that I'm about 350 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: to tell you what could have happened. I'm gonna tell 351 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: you what could have happened. I had a little inside 352 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: information based on where I was standing, So prepare yourself. 353 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: We'll dive in right after this. So there I am. 354 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: I'm on the field. It's the fourth quarter. You know 355 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: how the game's gone up to this point. Saturday Night 356 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: had a great time, kneel and stadium a spectacle onto 357 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: college football. Just an awesome environment, awesome scene. Very bad 358 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: officiating throughout the night, and I want to stress that 359 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: throughout the night, not any one call throughout the night. 360 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: That is the backdrop you have to understand. That's important 361 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: for the context. The entire mood in that stadium was 362 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: unique unto that night. Number One, you had the Lane 363 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: Kiffin effect, and I think it's very underrated nationally how 364 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: much those people have disdained for him because they view 365 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: him abandoning them as sort of the reason they began 366 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: this slide into a decade of mediocrity. You combine that 367 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: with the fact that when he returns, they're already jacked up, 368 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: they're already charged. You've got officiating crews continually screwing them 369 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: throughout the night. That is leading to behavior I'm not excusing. 370 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to say that for the nineteenth time this week, 371 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: but behavior that's going to end up happening in the 372 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So when that call does not get overturned, 373 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: the spot of the ball and it ends up with 374 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: old miss football and it looks like they've won the 375 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: game at that point, and here come the objects. I 376 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: am telling a security guard and another dude standing next 377 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: to me as they're reviewing. If they don't overturn this, 378 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a problem, and you're gonna have to 379 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: turn your back to the field and we're gonna have 380 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: to face the stands. Because I've been on the field 381 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: before when objects started getting thrown. The only way to 382 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: keep yourself somewhat safe is to turn your face to 383 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: the crowd so you can see stuff coming at you, 384 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: so you can get out of the way of it. Well, 385 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: as soon as that call doesn't get overturned, here it 386 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: comes and you see firsthand why some stadiums out there 387 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: do not allow bottle caps to be left on a 388 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: bottle when you purchase it. They make you give them 389 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: the bottle top. They will not even they twist it 390 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: off for you and hand it to you. Well, the 391 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: reason they do that is not because they are for 392 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: you spilling your drink and they want you to be 393 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: more prone to have to come back and buy more 394 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: product from them. That's not the reason they take the 395 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: bottle cap from you, guys. They take the bottle cap 396 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: so that you don't have a projectile. You ever try 397 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: throwing a bottle with a cap on it versus a 398 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: bottle without a cap on it. You know how much 399 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: more dangerous it makes that object in your hand if 400 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: it's got a cap on it. Well, at Tennessee, I'm 401 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: not criticizing Niland stadium officials, but I'm saying there were 402 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of bottles with caps on them, and here 403 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: they come raining down onto the field. I ducked out 404 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: of the way of three different things. There was a 405 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: fourth that I probably didn't need to move from, but 406 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: at that point I was being a little dramatic. I 407 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: was like fighter pilot mode. If as a maneuver, well 408 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: it was a plastic cup, you would have been okay 409 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: probably either way. But three different times full water bottles 410 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: and one can came at me and I had to 411 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: get out of the way. So then, in a moment 412 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: that fortunately was not recorded or captured on video, I 413 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: do the crab walk. I think we all know what 414 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: the crab walk is. It's when you walk sideways to 415 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: keep my eye on the crowd. I walk sideways the 416 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: entire width of the field to try and turn the 417 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: corner and then get down the sideline. And so there 418 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: I am just side shuffling all the way down the field, 419 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: and no one's paying attention to me at that point. 420 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: But I get to where I can start taking some video, 421 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: and you guys saw on Lake Kick Live I put 422 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: some video out there, just the scene on the field. 423 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: But then, so think about this, as you guys know, 424 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: if you're watching the game, there was a long stoppage 425 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: in play. If you've ever been in a stadium, you 426 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: know that it's all about structure, And this is what 427 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: stood out to me the most that night. It's all 428 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: about structure. You have. If you're a fan, a ticket 429 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: and you have a tunnel you're supposed to go in, 430 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: a gate you're supposed to go in. You have certain 431 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,479 Speaker 1: things you can and can't buy, certain things you can 432 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: and cannot bring in. You have a specific seat that 433 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: you're supposed to go sit in. Like everything's structured, there 434 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: are just understood rules. There are things you can do 435 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: and can't do. It's the same for us. There is 436 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: an entry portal for the media. There's a credential. You 437 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: have to have different credentials designate different areas of the 438 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: stadium you're allowed to be in. Tennessee gives me an 439 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: all access pass, so I can go anywhere. I want 440 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: to Thank you Tennessee. Pretty sure I could have called 441 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: plays in the second half had I only asked for 442 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: a headset. I think they were required to give me one. 443 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: But it's all about structure. It's all about structure. When 444 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: you're on the field, you know there are places you 445 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: can and cannot stand. Everything's about structure. So the part 446 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: that was I think the most troublesome to me. I'm 447 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: not going to say I was outright scared, but the 448 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: most unnerving, I guess is the right word first and 449 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: last time I may use that word on the podcast 450 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: is they lost structure. There was no control of the 451 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: situation for several minutes. And what I mean by that 452 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: is I was standing on the midfield logo during the game. 453 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: I mean, of course, play is stopped, but there is 454 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: an actual college football game going on and I'm standing 455 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: at midfield. No one has said anything to me. I'm 456 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: just out there. I'm talking to players, I was talking 457 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: to assistant coaches. I'm standing on the midfield logo. It's 458 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, there's time on the clock, and I'm 459 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, at that point, is there any control here? 460 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: The structure has totally broken down. And if you're in 461 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: a place where there's one hundred thousand people and the 462 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: structure has broken down, it can be very scary because 463 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: I can tell you things can go sideways really really, 464 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: really quickly. They didn't, but imagine if someone wanted to 465 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: cause trouble more so than was already happening. If someone 466 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: really wanted to cause trouble, there was nothing stopping them 467 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: at that point. So out of all the things you 468 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: saw on TV, that was the most surreal part of 469 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: the experience live was the total breakdown of the normal 470 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: endgame structure on the field. Okay, so then we move on, 471 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: they finally get somewhat control of the game back, they 472 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: don't call it, they continue to play it. I know 473 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: that was controversial. I didn't. I don't know. I was 474 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: talking to Wilfong last night and he and I were 475 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: talking about this. He said, I can't believe that they 476 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: let the game continue. I personally didn't have a strong 477 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: feel on that one way or the other. I felt 478 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: in the moment that there was no way they were 479 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: going to be able to continue it. But then when 480 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: no one came on the field, that's when I knew 481 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: they'd probably continue it. Like I thought we were eventually 482 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: going to have people storm the field. Honestly, that's what 483 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: I thought, and I was prepared if it happened. I 484 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: already had my little escape route. Two things I always 485 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: do when I walk into building is I know where 486 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: the inner lower most portion of the building is for 487 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: storm protection purposes. And number two, I know where all 488 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: the points of exit are. I know. That makes it 489 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: sound like I was formerly of m I six, and 490 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't. It's just kind of I guess I've seen 491 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: too many movies. Maybe that's the way my mind works. Anyway, 492 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: So I had a game plan. Your boy was going 493 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: to be out of there, and probably a net result 494 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: is I would have beaten the traffic home. So anyway, 495 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: some of those parts, you know, so let me tell 496 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: you what you don't know that almost happened. So when 497 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: they finally get control of the situation as much as 498 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: they can, there was never really control. I mean, people 499 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: were all over the place where they shouldn't be. I 500 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: was on the old miss bench for two plays. I 501 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: mean I was actually over there, like on their sideline, 502 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: not on the sideline, in their sideline, for a couple 503 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: of plays, and then I eventually went down to the 504 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: end zone. But if you'll remember, before that point, they 505 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: tried to flush the student section, which was crazy. I 506 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: was standing on the field when the order was given 507 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: and they said get them out of here, and they 508 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: started to try and flush the student section. A line 509 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: of security and police officers they tried to push the 510 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: student section out, and I'm not sure how that operation ended, 511 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: because they got some of the students out of there, 512 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: but they didn't get all of them out of there. 513 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: So when play resumed, like one or two plays into 514 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: the actual game resuming, there was this sudden rush of 515 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: the entirety of the students that remained down to the bottom. 516 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: What I thought was they were coming on the field, 517 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: so I was ready for it. They didn't come on 518 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: the field, but that's what it felt like at the time. 519 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: If you've ever seen like three or four thousand people 520 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: run at you simultaneously, you don't just assume they're going 521 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: to stop. Well they did stop, but they were right 522 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: there next to the field again on the front row. 523 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: And so if you think about what was happening on 524 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: the field, Tennessee's got the ball and they're driving, and 525 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: they actually, in the most surreal moment ever, they have 526 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: a chance to win the game. After an action that 527 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: the crowd thought had ended the game did not end 528 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: the game. Tennessee gets the ball back, and so you've got, 529 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: after all that chaos, Tennessee's got a chance to win 530 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: the game. Well, here's what was happening on the field. 531 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a ton of law enforcement on 532 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: the field. So what you always want to do in 533 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: the middle of chaos is you want to get as 534 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: close to decision makers as you can, and you want 535 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: to get as close to enforcement as you can. In 536 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: this case, it was police officers law enforcement, because you 537 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: want to be informed and you want to know what 538 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: orders they're getting. So I did that and I got 539 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: close to several police officers and and I'm just having 540 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: them keep me abreast of what they're about to do. Well, 541 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: here's what you don't know. What you don't know is 542 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: as Tennessee is driving to try and win the game, 543 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: and that student section is very militant, and they're down 544 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: there on the front row. I am knowing if Tennessee 545 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: scores here, they're coming on the field. And I can 546 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: tell you, folks, because I was hearing the orders given 547 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: real time, had that happened, they were going to stand 548 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: down and allow them to come on the field. And 549 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: so you think you saw something ugly happen Saturday night 550 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: because you saw a bunch of garbage rain down on 551 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: a football surface. No, what I can tell you is, 552 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: had Tennessee won the game, those students were coming on 553 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: the field and they were going to be allowed to 554 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: come on that field because the risk reward had been measured. 555 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: And I guess security and law enforcement decided that if 556 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: we try and resist them coming on the field, We're 557 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: probably going to end up having multiple really ugly situations 558 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: and incidents, so we should just get out of the way. 559 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: Let them come on the field. It's only like half 560 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: of them left anyway, and then we'll just deal with 561 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: whatever happens. But I want you to think about what 562 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: that would have entailed. What that would have entailed is 563 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: Ole Miss has just now shifted to a position where 564 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,919 Speaker 1: they think they got the game taken from them because 565 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: the game was stopped and in their mind probably should 566 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: have been called and they should have won the game, 567 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: and they're the victims of structure breaking down. Also, Lane 568 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: Kiffen's on that field, So you've got an entire irate 569 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: Ole Miss team, You've got Lane Kiffen on the field. 570 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: You've got then people rushing the field who have hatred 571 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: in their heart for Lane Kiffen, and that all would 572 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: have been thrown into one combustible situation. How do you 573 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: think that would have ended? What would have happened had 574 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: a couple of students and this would have absolutely gone 575 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: down this way gotten in the face of Ole Miss players, 576 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: or what happens if a couple of folks try and 577 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: go find Lane Kiffen and try and get as close 578 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: to Lane Kiffin as they can. It would have been 579 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: really bad. I have no doubt about that. It would 580 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: have been really, really bad that almost happened had Tennessee 581 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: won that game that almost happened. So I know it 582 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: looks like we had an ugly Saturday night. Now, I 583 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: think you got out on the light end of what 584 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: could have been infinitely worse. You want to know ugliest 585 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: scenes of all time in sports, Detroit Pistons, Malice at 586 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: the Palace. If you're too young, look it up. That 587 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: is ugly. That's bad, that's generational ugliness. This stuff that 588 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: happened at Tennessee the other night. I know it's fresh 589 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: in everyone's mind right now. No one will remember this 590 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: in a few years. It'll be a game that you 591 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: look at in the record books and then someone has 592 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: to remind you, oh, that's the game they threw garbage 593 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: on the field. No, had you had actual interaction and 594 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: confrontation and physical altercations between fans and players and coaches, 595 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: that's when you would have had a generational black eye 596 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: on the program and the university and the SEC. So 597 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: I know it sounds crazy, but given the circumstances and 598 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: what I experienced and witnessed. I think we got off 599 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of light Saturday night. Let's rattle off a few 600 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: more here. DD asked, have I heard anything on a 601 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: Ji Hall transferring from Alabama? No, I have not. I 602 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: know that he has not seen the field as much 603 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: as anyone who watched the spring game thought that he 604 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: would see, including me this year so far, I know that, 605 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's probably not totally happy with the situation there. 606 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: He's not the first true freshman to ever be disgruntled 607 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: at lack of playing time. Nick Saban's dealt with this 608 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: very effectively over the years. And the way that you 609 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: do this is you pull no punches. You use the 610 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: freshman year, and you use the allure of playing time 611 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: as a natural filtration process. Everyone wants to play on Saturday. 612 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: Everyone wants to I can guarantee you everyone who's ever 613 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: been on scholarship at Alabama wants to play on Saturday. 614 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: And I can also guarantee you if you have done 615 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: everything you need to do in practice to make that 616 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: coaching staff trust you, then you're on the field. What 617 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: you can't do is you can't get in the kid's 618 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: ear and rub them on the cheek and say it'll 619 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: be okay. Now, it'll be okay. If they haven't done 620 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: what it takes, you let them know they haven't done 621 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: what it takes. At that point, you find out mentally 622 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: what you have. You either got someone who's gonna maybe 623 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: get their feelings hurt but then go to work and 624 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: rectify the situation and earn their way into the field, 625 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: or they're gonna quit and leave. Either way, you got 626 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: the response you wanted. Because if you have someone that's 627 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: not willing to do the work at your place, make 628 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: them a bad person. But if they're not willing to 629 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: do the work, then you don't need them there and 630 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: they don't need to be there. If they are willing 631 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: to do the work, then you do need them there, 632 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: and they do need to be there, and eventually it 633 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: pays off for all parties involved. And that's kind of 634 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: what's going on at Alabama right now. It's not unique 635 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: to a Jihaul. This has happened a million times before. 636 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: He's just a million and one. I'm pulling for him, though, 637 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Uh let's see, let's go to this. 638 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: This is Eric will dabbo use the transfer portal. I 639 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: don't see how Clemson beats Pitt on the road unless 640 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Will Shipley is back. You know, Eric, I was thinking 641 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: about this. I did a roundtable with a lot of 642 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: our twenty four to seven folks yesterday and it just 643 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: dawned on me. I kind of made a statement as 644 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: it was coming out of my mouth. I realized how 645 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: crazy it was. So think about in the preseason when 646 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: everyone was doing predictions, and think about how the ACC 647 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: was perceived and it was Clemson by a mile, and 648 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: then people were asking who can make it to the 649 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: title game that may have a puncher's chance at Clemson, 650 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: And that was the whole conversation around North Carolina. Can 651 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: North Carolina just get to the ACC title game and 652 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: then it'll be a win. Of course they're not going 653 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: to be Clemson, but can they just get to the 654 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: title game? What if I were to have told you, 655 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: and I want you to really pause and think about this, 656 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: because this is why I don't really do a whole 657 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: lot of preseason predictions, because there's just no skill in 658 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: it whatsoever. What if I were to have told you 659 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: in August as you were making all your predictions, I'm 660 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: not going to tell you anything about North Carolina, You 661 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: got to guess on them. But I can guarantee you 662 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: that by what October twenty second, So this Saturday, Clemson 663 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: will already have two losses and there'll be an underdog 664 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: to pit. If I just told you that, what would 665 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: you think about North Carolina? You would automatically think, well, 666 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: number one, catastrophe has struck Clemson, which has opened the 667 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: door for North Carolina, and they have got to be 668 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: a playoff team now and they're not. The door has 669 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: been wide open, and North Carolina has fumbled the ball horribly, 670 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: as has the rest of the ACC. For a long time, 671 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: it looked for all the world like once Clemson finally 672 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: comes back to Earth, then it'll open up the door. Nope, 673 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Clemson has come back to Earth and still no one 674 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: has taken it. The ACC is an embarrassment. Right now, 675 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: you finally get your shot, and a team like North Carolina, 676 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: what do you have? Twenty one returning starters, including an 677 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: all conference caliber quarterback, and just nothing not even close. 678 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: That is much to the delight of a Cincinnati fan. 679 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: I can assure you of that. But it's been a crazy, 680 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: crazy time to watch the ACC unfold this year. Eric. 681 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: To answer your question, yes, I think Dabbo will use 682 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: the portal eventually, up to and including maybe this coming 683 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: summer or winter or whenever you go to the portal. 684 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: And I also I don't believe Clemson will beat Pitt Saturday. 685 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: There's this voice in the back of your mind that 686 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: looks at that point spread and you know you want 687 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: to take Pitt because you think they're better, and they're 688 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 1: at home, and you know that Pitt's going to get 689 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: be geared up. But there's a voice in the back 690 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: of your mind. Ooh, Clemson as an underdog, right, Clemson 691 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: as an underdog. I don't care. I don't think this 692 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: is Clemson. I don't think this is your your grandpa's Clemson. 693 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: Or actually the problem is maybe it is your grandpa's Clemson. 694 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: It's not your kid's sisters Clemson. So I agree with you. 695 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how they get it done Saturday. All right, 696 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: we got a big Late Kick Live lined up for 697 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: tonight Week eight. Prediction time gonna announce the Late Kick 698 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Renaissance Tour destination shortly on Twitter and Instagram at Late 699 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: Kick Josh having a lot of fun with that. That's 700 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: gone a lot better even than I expected it to mean. 701 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be able to build a lot off of that. 702 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait to eventually announce that sort of thing. 703 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: But trust me, I have listened to you, and you 704 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: guys have asked, Hey, what more is there to this? 705 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: There will be more. There will be more. So just 706 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: sit type for producer Jordan and producer Lance. I don't 707 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: even know who's getting their hands on this today. I 708 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: know that my name, as of the moment is still 709 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: Josh Pate and I thank you so much for making 710 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: this possible for me and for us and for everyone involved. 711 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: Have yourselves a great rest of your Tuesday. We'll see 712 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: you later tonight on Late Kick Live. And God bless