WEBVTT - Elite Panic: Why The Rich And Powerful Can't Be Trusted 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:07.200 Pie. Well, yeah, like of dolphins, but in this case 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:11.360 also of casts, a cast of pods, for example, like 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:17.120 Attorneys General podcast. I'm Robert Evans. This is Behind the Bastards, 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.599 a show where we talked about I do have a 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.439 lot of podcasts, thank you, Jamie. As you might notice 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:25.400 in my show about talking about bad people, I have guests, 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:32.080 and today that guest is Madam Jamie Loftiest. I'll take that. Yeah, 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:36.760 that lofts lofts US. Mhmm, lofts US. Yeah. That's when 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:38.559 there's more than one of us in the room, it's 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.879 loss and and and then there's Sophie's Lichtman. It's it's 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:46.120 all we should Attorney's General. All plurals is what? What 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:50.879 the statement I'm coming into. It's a complicated language. But 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:57.400 but beautiful, Jamie, how are you doing? Uh? You know? 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:05.840 All things sooner? Good? I learned question. I have HPV. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:11.760 I have HPV. I learned, Oh, I have HPV. Sorry, No, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.600 it's fine. It's a it's a fun it's a fun 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:21.720 middle non threatening HPV. Uh that yeah, first, it was 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:23.679 a fun. It's nice to have some suspense in your 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.080 life that is, like, you know, not a little less 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.760 existential where They're like, is it good HPV or bad 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.160 HPV And they're like, well, it's you know, it's it's 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.160 middling HPV. Well, I'm going to ask our listeners. I'm 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:39.160 gonna ask all of our listeners when this episode drops 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:41.080 to tag us on Twitter and tell us if you 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:45.119 have HPV as well have HPV. It's just fill our 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.920 Twitter mentions. Individual threads don't comment on the episode like 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:54.040 tag us individually each time. Absolutely over Walmart twitters everyone 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.360 that so many people have HPV and I know it's 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.360 so but my my dad did see my Twitter post 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.360 about it, and then he was just he was shocked. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.200 He thought HPV was really going to get me, and 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:09.160 then I just had to tell him, it's not going 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.760 to get This is We're going to raise awareness about 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:17.120 HPV by overwhelming and making our Twitter's unusable for several 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.440 days with a lot of people discussing their presence or 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:25.680 lack thereof of of HPV. Um. So that's my since 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.600 between the last Updade the last episode I was on 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.720 in this I I learned I at hpd I don't 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.320 think I got it. Then I just went to a 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:40.639 ganacologist for the first time in four years because it's 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.480 good to have health insurance. I've been to a gynecologist 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.679 in a long time. Well, that's you really got to 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.560 get your pap. Every couple of every comple careful. Huh, 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:57.600 paps and bagels both need schmir swish sailed it with 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:02.520 the swish. All right, well we should talk. We should 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.840 do the thing that is our job to do. Yeah, 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.560 the only thing that matters in this world. What's fun 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.359 about this episode, Jamie, is that this is an episode 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.560 about disasters and how human beings respond to them, and 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.240 we're recording it right before the election, and by the 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.079 time it drops, the entire world could be a radically 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.040 different place. And that's fun. I want to I want 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.400 to listen back to this episode later and feel absolutely 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.639 sick to my stomach. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. It's 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:33.200 gonna be so good. I can't wait. We're talking today 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.920 about elite panic. Oh yeah, that's the bastard of today. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.440 So I want to start our story are our episode 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.280 today with the story of a man named one Peel Piva. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:49.480 He was born on September in Kazappa, Paraguay, and while 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.000 he is most definitely a bastard, he's not the bastard 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.640 of our episode. We're gonna start with him though. Um 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.680 One grew up working class in a town two fifty 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:04.040 kilometers or fake miles southeast of Paraguay's capital was his now. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.480 His dad was a bus driver, and he started working 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.160 at age sixteen selling tickets on his father's bus. His 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.080 family also owned a butcher's shop, and he worked there 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:12.760 as a young adult until he had enough money to 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.200 open a small butcher's shop of his own in the capital, 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.760 which is again scion now, which I'm I probably pronouncing 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.360 somewhat wrong. Well, you famously pronounced everything, but I famously 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.400 pronounced everything right. I know. By the time he was thirty, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.200 he owned two butcher shops uh, and through frugal money 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.520 management and a keen sense of finances, One was able 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.440 to open his first grocery store in nineteen eighty five. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.159 He named it Kua Bolognios, which means well of water 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.120 and was a reference to a mythical healing spring near 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.960 his hometown. Now One's business was successful, but his growing 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:47.600 wealth was met by a growth in the stingy tendencies 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.200 that had helped him rise above his humble origins. He 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.919 kept his own accounts, and he paid suppliers himself. He 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.640 forced his employees to work under what one local paper 0:04:55.680 --> 0:05:01.840 described as an enslaving regime. H yeah, so that's not 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.800 you know, nice. You get one butcher shop and look 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.839 what happens. It's funny too, because like the positive articles 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:10.599 that you'd read about them would call him like, say 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.479 he came from a peasant background. But it's like, I mean, 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.520 I guess, like you're not rich just because your family 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:18.240 owns a butcher's shop, but like you're not like, I 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.919 don't know, peasant seems weird for a family that is 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.440 a business owner. I don't know. Yeah, Like, not not 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.800 that there's anything wrong with owning a butcher's shop, but 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.599 like peasant is anyway. Whatever. One kept his office behind 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.640 the cashiers so he could watch them at all times 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.360 through the large glass windows that he had installed and 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.240 intervene at once if he was unhappy with their performance, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.200 which he frequently was. Um, it's kind of a dick boss. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.640 You know. We've all I mean, I guess most people 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.200 who have worked in the service industry have had a 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.080 boss like that, really unnecessarily obsessed with your what you're 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.640 doing at all times. Now Quotlannos became a modest chain 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.240 of supermarkets, with two full grocery stores and one hyper 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:03.000 market just kind of similar to them, all multiple restaurants, shops, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.159 you know, a bunch of you can hold a shipload 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.159 of people, like a really big grocery store, right, like 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.760 a normal grocery store in the United States, but big, 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.560 you know at the time. Again we're talking like the 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:18.839 eighties here. Yeah. His company's slogan was Quablan, synonymous with 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:24.520 quality and low prices. One whose nickname was apparently the Baby, 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.400 expanded his business and to a Yeah what, Jamie, he's 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.160 the baby. He's the He's the baby, and you gotta 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.080 love him. Why is there any reason? I don't know. 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.800 I mean, I've only found out that baby unless you're 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.640 the rapper. I think that's what people call him. The baby. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.400 The baby is from Dinosaurs, that TV show, right, Yeah, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.960 the baby that come on continue. I know the baby 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.359 from so what he's called the baby. And then he's like, 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.040 but don't ask why I'm called the baby. No, just 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:58.080 only a lot of so for because of the story 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.800 we're about to tell is primarily there's some international stories 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.440 because it's wild, but most of the good stories were local, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.320 and so I had to Google translate them, and I 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.680 was not able to find anything else about why he 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.600 was called the baby. But his nickname was the baby. Okay, 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.720 the baby. I'm gonna struggle getting past this. But but 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:20.800 but I'm here, I'm here. Yeah, So he's the baby. Uh. 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.560 And he expands his business into a joint stock company. 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.280 So he makes it into a corporation with like stock 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.360 and shareholders and ship and he starts soliciting investments. Now, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.080 the number of Yukwa Bolanos hypermarkets increased after this point, 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.080 because now they have a bunch of funding. In two 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.680 thousand one, one opened his largest store yet, Yukuo Bolanos Botanico, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.160 named for its proximity to the Capital Botanical Gardens. This 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:47.160 massive new building was twelve thousand square feet with a 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.040 dining area that was capable of seating six d people alone. 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:54.600 So very big fucking store. He's he's it's a big baby. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:08:00.000 It's a big old baby. It's old botanical baby. Yeah. 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:04.480 So yeah, he gets he gets things going on, um 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.080 and everything's yeah, he's making a lot of money. He's 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:08.840 got a bunch of stores. His net worth climbs to 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.640 more than eight million dollars um. And at this point, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:14.720 you know, he's too busy and has too many employees 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.040 to watch over each of them. And like the slightly 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.880 creepy stalking way that he had before, this caused him 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.360 a lot of anxiety because he was always terrified that 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.520 his employees might steal from him. To ensure that the yeah, 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.200 I'm gonna go now, to ensure that the crowning jewel 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.400 of his empire didn't lose a single centavo that was 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.080 due to it, uh One appointed the only man he 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.440 could trust to the job of stalking his employees, his son, 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.920 Victor Daniel. Now Victor had always been something of a 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.280 disappointment to one. The father had hoped his son might 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.160 one day play for the national soccer team, but Victor 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.600 tended towards obesity and was not at all athletically inclined. Still, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.720 he was able to earn some amount of his father's 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.760 pride by being every bit the miser and tyrannical enforcer 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.840 that Juan had been. One journalist described him as tough 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.360 on employees and stingy on suppliers, but they go him. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:06.480 The little baby, the baby's baby, the baby baby, the baby. Yeah, 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.440 let's let's I've settled the son of the baby. Yeah. Yeah, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.959 uh so. Stingy was kind of an ongoing theme in 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.280 the growing empire of one Peel Piva and his son. 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.520 While the Ukua Bolanos Botanical was a massive structure in 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.320 the pride of his corporation, corners were cut at every 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.360 single stage of construction. The ducts from the grill in 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.800 the kitchen, the bakery and the rotisserie did not vent outside. Instead, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.480 they pumped smoke and gas into a chamber between the 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.920 ceiling and the roof of the building. The roof had 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:40.600 no hold on. Yeah, okay, okay, So there's just there's 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.360 just a pollution room. There's a fire room. Yeah, there's 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:48.240 a there's a room to cause a fire. Yes, there 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.319 there is a poison room. They like like our recording 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.600 studio in our in our in our beloved place, that 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.880 we can't record it anymore because of the plague. There's 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.880 a poison room in the Yukua Bolanos Botanic. Oh miss 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.800 poison room. I miss it too. I miss it too. 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.560 As soon as this plague is over, I'm gonna throw 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:09.600 more poison into it room. I'm ready. Yeah, yeah, We're 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.280 all ready for the poison room, a workplace poison room. 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.480 Now I feel more connected. Yeah, except for in there's 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.880 they're venting all of the gas and smoke from their 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.760 many ovens cooking for tens of thousands of people on 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.240 a weekly basis. Uh, into this room. And the roof 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:29.400 of the room has no wind extractors. Also, you know else, 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.600 they don't have Jamie, what smoke alarms? No? No, no, no, 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.560 what do you have smoke alarms in your death trap? 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.199 There's no sprinklers either. All of the stop cocks on 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.840 the fire hoses were closed. Um yeah, so again, absolutely 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.800 no safety measures taken in this building meant to hold 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.320 thousands of customers. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. So it's the 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.680 Titanic of grocery stars. Yes, it is the Titanic of 0:10:55.920 --> 0:11:01.640 They no lifeboats on this business. Uh oh god, it's amazing. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.880 It's so fucking funny. It's not because what's about to 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:06.800 happen is one of the worst things I've ever heard about. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.000 One skimped on any emergency training that might have prepared 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:11.760 his employees in the event of a fire as well, 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.000 because if you're not going to take any other preparations 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.520 for a fire. Why would you even think about it? 0:11:16.640 --> 0:11:19.880 You know, start now, Yeah, that would be speaking it 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.559 into being Jamie. It's like the secret. You know, if 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:24.839 you think about it, it will come to you. You 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.599 don't think of fire. Yeah, I don't want to manifest 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:32.160 a gigantic, devastating grocery store fire. Yeah. Yeah, that's why 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.520 I cut out the seat belts on all of my cars. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:39.240 You know, absolutely, Otherwise you're just inviting t You're inviting 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.320 an accident. In exactly, I don't want to have an 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:45.040 accident when I'm drunk driving my Forerunner through a trailer park. No, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.240 And that's why you've never gotten into trouble that way. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.120 And that's why I've never gotten into trouble that way. 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.120 I've been saying that for years. I've been saying that 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.880 for years, shouting it at police officers chasing me in 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.280 my Forerunners for years, as you drunk drive your your 0:11:56.320 --> 0:12:01.440 fore Runner. I admire It's it's fairfully admired. Yeah. Now, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:05.960 so yeah, one takes again like not like aggressively takes 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:10.440 no safety precautions for his massive building meant to cook 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.520 and hold thousands of people. Um, yeah, I mean obviously 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.040 like if he had done things like train his employees 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.520 given to have some sort of fire safety plan, that 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:21.839 would have distracted from the time they could spend working, 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.880 which would be the same as them stealing from him. 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.920 And one is not going to allow that to happen. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.400 Show them included a hose or two. These are all 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.439 unnecessary time sucks disabled the hoses that there were, Like, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:41.440 that's so funny, more work than not, Like that's so aggressive, okay, okay, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:48.200 So he's begging for this leading for an explosion. Now, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.400 the question, Jamie, of how One's company was able to 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.480 get away with blatant violations of local fire codes. It's 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.120 an important one because again, Paraguay is a country they 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.120 have laws about making death traps, right, you're not supposed to. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.080 So there's a good question like how did he get 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.560 to make a death trap? And it may have had 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:06.840 something to do with the fact that he had a 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.920 cozy friendship with one Carlos was Mossy, the president of 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:14.600 Paraguay from in two thousand two. Was Mosy was convicted 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.600 of stealing six million dollars from the government's Social Welfare 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.760 Institute and diverting it to his personal bank account. So 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.680 the odds are quite good that one bribed him to 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.240 make concerns over the building safety go away, right, Like 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.080 the guy who we know was crooked as ship probably 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.679 was being crooked as ship. And one Carlos was like, Oh, 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:38.840 that's the baby. Yeah, you gotta love of especially if 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.640 you paid you really totally thousands of dollars. Yeah, baby, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.880 son a baby. Let them do whatever they want. Let 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.600 him do whatever they want. I often say that about 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.760 babies and about owners of grocery stores. We've given enough 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.040 passes to the baby. So unfortunately, Jamie, I don't know 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:57.800 if you're aware of this, but you cannot bribe the 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:02.800 laws of physics. Uh yet, I'm working on it. Life 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.840 finds a way, as Ian Malcolm said. So for three years, 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:09.640 the many ovens of the Qua Bolognas Botanica ran all 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.200 day long, venting smoke and gas up into the roof 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.360 without any way for it to escape. Eventually, more than 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:19.040 nine thousand cubic meters of flammable gases had accumulated up there, 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:21.800 turning the whole roof into of the massive complex into 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:25.400 a ticking time bomb. And then, sometime in the summer 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:29.040 of two thousand four, one of the buildings, ovens got plugged, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.800 and timely action was not taken to unplug it, like 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.960 fix the jam, and unbeknownst to Victor, a fire burned 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.920 behind the obstruction in the ovens. They weren't cleaning the ovens. 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.680 There's a blockage and there's imber's burning behind the blockage, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.200 so they don't realize that there's embers burning behind it. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.520 And yeah, obviously, like so this fire catches on all 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.600 of the grease, and the grease starts to burn behind 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.840 the obstruction this oven, and it sends in burns into 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:55.800 the sea. Yeah, no one sees it. They think the 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.000 oven is just blocked and dead. But behind the obstruction 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.400 there are embers burn naing that catch onto the grease 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.200 and embers start to float up into the ceiling, which 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:12.240 is again an enormous bomb. Yeah. Yeah. On the morning 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.960 of August one, one of those embers finally ignited the 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.360 pocket of gas in the ceiling. It happened while more 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.920 than a thousand people were inside the business, Most of 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.560 them were mothers, many of whom had their children with them. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.800 One male customer who was present later recalled, we were 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.760 entering the supermarket when there was an explosion I could 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:33.400 see how bodies, especially little ones, flew through the air, arms, legs. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.360 Another customer later told press it was raining fire when 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.440 I was finishing to pay at the cash register. By miracle, 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:45.240 I got out before they closed the doors, foreshadowing of 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:49.680 what's about. Yeah, that's what we're about, the talk the door. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:54.680 Oh yeah, great question, Jamie on that horrible August morning. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.240 Victor Daniel Piva, who's again one son and the guy 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.560 who's job it is to make sure nobody steals from 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.760 the baby one son. Victor had arrived late for work 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.880 because he had been buying his father tickets for an 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:08.720 upcoming soccer match. It's very likely saved his life because 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.520 of where his office was located and where the explosion happened. 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.840 But if it did save his life, his survival damned 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.280 many more people. Once he arrived on scene within minutes 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.360 of the explosion, Victor gave his first order to his 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:26.680 security guards, don't let them out without paying. Oh my god, 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:40.480 why holy shit? And the security guards didn't say no. No. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.240 It's kind of a we could talk about Germans here, um, 0:16:44.280 --> 0:16:46.400 but I think everybody knows, like the thing that people 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:49.840 do when they're given orders. Yeah. By the son of 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:53.880 the baby. Yeah. The victor was concerned that the hundreds 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.920 of customers attempting to escape the Yuko Bologna's botanic a 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:02.920 death trap wouldn't hang outing thing were leaving the flaming building. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.760 He was worried they were going to leave with arms 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:12.520 full of groceries and consumer goods. Victor Jesus Christ. So 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.560 the idea that to Victor that his dad might get 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.359 angry at him for letting customers get out with free 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:22.159 goods of his exploding supermarket was more important to him 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.280 than the thoughts of the lives of the thousand people 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.639 still inside. So he ordered his guards to close and 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:34.359 bar all ten exits to the store. Jesus Christ. Okay, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.960 And they do, and they do that, they do the 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.919 ship out of that, okay. So I'm gonna quote from 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:44.520 a journalist in the local newspaper called Nacion quote. Outside 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.040 in front of the hypermarket, Victor Daniel Piva could not 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.679 stop sweating. He called insistently on the phone for the 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.720 employees to get the money out of the boxes while 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.960 dozens of people scratched the windows to get out. Oh 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:02.000 my god, it's pretty bad, right, this is like so 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:07.200 this is bad writing. This is horrible. If you made 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.399 a if you made a bad guy in like a 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.760 movie or a TV do this, people would be like, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.440 nobody would like. And then you're like, no, no, no no, no, wait, 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:18.320 and they call the boss the baby and Jesus that 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:25.800 steal while the building is actively exploding. Yes, okay, it's 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.200 going to get so much worse, Jamie. But let's pause 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.239 for just a moment. Let's pause for just a just 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.480 a split second, with that horrible vision in our heads 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.879 of people scratching on the windows of a burning grocery store. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.760 And let's have a little conversation about how money affects 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.399 the human brain. Okay, yeah, you want to do that. 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.600 You like that? Like talking about this. I love talking 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:47.040 about how money affects the human brain. Is my It's 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.360 my favorite thing to do. Is my kink me too. Actually, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.840 there's been a lot of fun studies on this. For 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.000 today's purposes, I want to start with a series of 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:58.359 experiments conducted in two thousand six by Dr Kathleen Vose 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.160 of the Carlson School of Management at the University of Minnesota. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.160 She led a group of Actually, let me mispronounced Minnesota 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.480 because I probably mispronounced something in Paraguay and I want 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.680 to be fair Mini sati uh in Minnisati and the 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.000 University of Minnesoti. Now she led a group of researchers 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.720 to conduct nine experiments, all of which primed half of 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.160 their students with thoughts of money. And I'm gonna quote 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.200 from Live Science about how they primed people to think 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.600 about money. A few methods were used to get the 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.040 participants thinking about money, and some experiments a stack of 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.760 play monopoly money was within a subject's peripheral view, or 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.000 a subject would unscramble word phrases dealing with money, while 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.159 in others, a participant would sit in front of a 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:39.080 computer screen savers showing pictures of floating money. So one 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.600 and again, they were not telling the people who were 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.960 being who are the subjects of the experiment, that money 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.560 had anything to do with it, like they were solving puzzles, basically, 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.560 and the experiment found that the group who had been 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:54.240 primed to think about money persisted longer at solving difficult 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.920 puzzles than subjects who weren't. And that's probably not so surprising, 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:58.960 right The thought of money makes you willing to kind 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:03.000 of like work harder long or at an otherwise meaningless task. Um, 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:07.359 And that's like not unsettling, right, It's pretty natural, like normal. Yeah. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.960 The other experiments were a bit more unsettling. Quote. In 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.199 one test, a participant sat in a lab filling out 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.360 a questionnaire when a supposed student walked into the room 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.199 and said, can you come over here and help me? 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.920 She explained that she was an undergraduate student and needed 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.159 help coding data sheets, each of which would take five minutes. 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.160 Some of the participants didn't help at all. Of those 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.719 said the control group volunteered an average of forty two 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:30.960 point five minutes of their time, whereas the money group 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.920 gave about twenty five minutes. That's interesting. Another experiment gave 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.119 participants the opportunity to lend a helping hand in a 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:40.479 situation requiring no skills. In a staged accident, a random 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:42.840 person walked through a room where a participant sat filling 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:44.919 out a questionnaire and spilled a bunch of pencils. The 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.720 money participants picked up far fewer pencils than the controls. 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.639 To understand how money affects in her personal relationships, the 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.080 scientists told each participant they would have a conversation to 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.280 acquaint themselves with another participant while the experimenter went to 0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.840 retrieve the other subject. The participant was to set up 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.040 two chairs for the engagement. The subjects in the money 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:04.000 group put more physical distance between themselves and new acquaintances 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.000 compared with control subjects. Again, interesting stuff, Interesting stuff. Now, 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.240 the right up I found made a point of note 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.680 in that the experimental results showed no difference as a 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.040 result of socioeconomic status or gender of the participants. It 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.199 seems like just pretty robust. The only real difference was 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.639 who had been primed to think about money, which is 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.600 again interesting. Now, this is just one study, obviously, so 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.560 let's talk about some other studies because a lot of 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:30.879 people have all all monopoly based studies are very funny 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.359 and terrified because people just turned into cartoon villains. Would 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:38.359 give it a money. It's fun because the next study 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.119 we're about to talk about is a U. C. Berkeley 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.000 experiment that involved a hundred pairs of strangers playing monopoly, 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.199 with one player getting double the money of the other. 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.240 And I'm gonna quote from tea, Yeah it's fun. Yeah, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:50.159 I'm gonna quote from a ted write up of the 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:53.680 psychologist behind the study. A guy named Paul piff quote, 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.719 the rich players move their pieces more loudly, banging them 0:21:56.720 --> 0:21:59.320 around the board, and displayed a type of enthusiastic gestures 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.160 that you see from a football player who's just scored 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.800 a touchdown. They even eight more pretzels from a bowl 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.439 setting off to the side than the players had been 0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.000 assigned to the poor condition, and started to become ruder 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.760 to their opponents. Moreover, the rich players understanding of the 0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.359 situation was completely warped. After a game, they talked about 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.159