1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: All right, how are we doing? Everybody? Hello again to 2 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff live here, brought to you by Coors Light, 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: as always seen on Giants dot com. I am Russ 4 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: Salzburg along with my partner today the not one but 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: two time former Super Bowl champion offensive lineman David Deal, 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the lovely Nicole Barrows taking care of us at the controls. 7 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 1: And of course you people are out there to give 8 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: us a call talk about what else the Big Blue, 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: Because this is Big Blue live on to zero one 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: four five one three that is the number. And today 11 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: Dave Well I got a chance to meet say hello 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: to uh the newest giant um uh Leonard Williams. Very 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: he's in a poet Listen, you're well, you're you're a 14 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: big dude. And he is a great big dude. You 15 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: know when you see him in that corner in the 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: locker room next to the guys like uh Dexter Lawrence 17 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,839 Speaker 1: and Dalvin Thompson, uh Tomlinson, that is one big group. 18 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: It is. It's definitely a big group. And you know 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: he helps bring in another asset to the defensive line 20 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: to provide versatility amongst the group. And and that's an 21 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: exciting thing. Moving forward here, and you know, obviously with 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: this move, you know that this isn't one that's just 23 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: borrowing and renting for the season. It's gonna be a 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: long term deal. And when you do this now with 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: eight games left on the season, it's gonna be a 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: great bar to test to see where they're at across 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: the board. What do we need to fill, what don't 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: we need to fill? How are these players playing next 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: to each other in cohesion and on the defensive line. 30 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: That's imperative when you're talking about game playing, scheming and 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: the type of stunts and twists and and games that 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: you want to run off of it. So now with 33 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: him being here and with eight games left, he's gonna 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: have that experience with Hill, with Tomlinson, with the rest 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: of this group. That's only gonna bode well for them 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: moving forward. Yeah, you know he he also he was saying, 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, because you were never 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Certain guys give you all the cliche, 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the standard operating lines. It was none of that, you know, 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: he said. Somebody asked them about do you think this 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: is kind of an audition for you? Because going into 42 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: your free agency, he says, well, you can say that 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: because I'm with a new team and obviously I'm trying 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to impress and I want to impress. But he mentioned 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: exactly what you said. He said. You know, it's kind 46 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: of funny. He's all of twenty five years old and 47 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: he's the oldest guy on that line Hill, Tomlinson, Lawrence, 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean Lackintosh. He is the eldest statesman at the 49 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: right baled age of which is crazy. But that's to 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: think about the fact of which we've talked about throughout 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: this entire season, this young football team and the demographic 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: demographic of it, these experiences, the press, separity, the adversity 53 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: that they're facing this season is only going to help 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: magnify when they get into these situations again, knowing how 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: to respond and how to react to them. So bring 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: in a veteran like Leonard Williams brings another added benefit, 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: not only in regards to the player himself, but in 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: regards to versatility and depth to that group, because we 59 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: know when you can get after a quarterback with rushing 60 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: four and play on the back end and have more 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: safety help and more coverage on that back end, that's 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: how you have a successful defense, and when you can 63 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: have a plethora of defensive tackles and defensive lineman to 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: where you're rotating in and out, it keeps everybody fresh. 65 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this Dave again, folks, the number 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: we will take your calls to zero, one, one three. 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Paul and I touched on it yesterday and initially when 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: you heard that, you know, guy like Leonard's coming, Uh, 69 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: do you think that it's going in their mind? You know, 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Earman told us today. You know Leonard is in 71 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: the rotation, you know that moving him around. Do you 72 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: think you know the thought is going into their minds? 73 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: And it's just sheer speculation of a four three. You 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: know it's a possibility. But the thing that you think 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: about when you think about a defense. It may have 76 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: the title as a three four defense, but you're gonna 77 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 1: run versatile three down fronts, four down fronts off of 78 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: that anyways, based upon how you want to attack an 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: opposing offense and get those matchups that are favorable for 80 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: your defense in the defensive line. So you know what, 81 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't play into it, well they're three four or 82 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: they're only four three, because you have multiple looks off 83 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: of that. So I don't play that into a big 84 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: overall scheming thing to where he's only gonna be one 85 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: player or a one three four guy or a four 86 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: three guy or a transformation. You're trying right now to 87 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: bolster your roster to where you're putting the best eleven 88 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: on the field, and each and every week it's gonna 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: bring a different type of front that you want to 90 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: run going up again, said offense, regardless of whether it's 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: a three four or four three front. Yeah, I I 92 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: that's what I was kind of thinking. You know, they 93 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: do different variations, you know, uh, all the time. So 94 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: I didn't know if that's a big deal, but you know, 95 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: it was certainly something of course think about when you 96 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: acquire somebody like that. I think the big difference is 97 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: when you start talking about defensive ends and outside linebackers, 98 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the difference between three four and 99 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: four three, because that's where you really see the change 100 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: of the guard. When you're having a defensive end in 101 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: the four three, you're not gonna have him in a 102 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: two point stance thinking about covering somebody just like you 103 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: sometimes do when you have a four linebacker system. So 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: that's where I think a lot of the diversity comes in. 105 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: But when you're talking about defensive tackles in the interior 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: line play of that, you have your systematic roles on 107 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: certain things, maybe two gap, which means you're holding up 108 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: and letting the linebackers run. But that change, and that 109 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: scheme changes based upon where they're going to move you 110 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: in that matchup. You know. Also the thing about the 111 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, you know coming in. Look, look, the fans 112 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: might not care about it, the media might not care 113 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: about it, but it is reality. When you get traded, 114 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: it is a jolt to your system, not just because 115 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: of the business of it, but you know, a lot 116 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: of guys, you gotta move. You gotta pack your bags, 117 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: you gotta you're starting all over. You gotta get get 118 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: somebody to take care of your apartment, you gotta get 119 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: dog watches in this and that, and and Leonard brought 120 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: out the fact that it's easy for him. He does 121 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: not have to move, And it's kind of ironic. So 122 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: if you had to be traded, it was a perfect 123 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: scenario for him. He didn't have to move. He's playing 124 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: How how about this for for the irony of it, 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: He's playing his old team next week this coming Monday night, 126 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: he's playing Dallas, of who he's played already this weeks ago. 127 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: So it's kind of you know, and and know Patch 128 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: Irma said he's gonna be playing. It's not like we're 129 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: just gonna try and I mean, he's gonna be playing. 130 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: He is part of the team. The thing that I 131 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, I would think, and Sherman brought obviously, 132 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: you know, he says, a defensive lineman, it's a lot easier, 133 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, if if you're playing on short notice, you know, 134 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: like you newly acquired, it's a lot more complicated. Let's 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: say if you're a quarterback or a wide receiver or 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: one of those or or I would say the same 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: thing an offensive lineman, I would learn a new call, 138 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: the new schemes. Uh, defensive lineman, not just go get 139 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: the football, go get the ball. I mean we we 140 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: always said that, you know, we know offensive linemen are 141 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: smarter than d lineman. You've been telling me that, but 142 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: it is it's a different position that can make that 143 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: seamless transition where it's not as easy when you're talking 144 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: about a wide receiver, quarterback or offensive line and all 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: the calls and things that go involved with it as 146 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: well to zero one four or five one three is 147 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: the number again. Want to remind everybody that Big Blue 148 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live here is brought to you by Corps Light. 149 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: And of course, if you choose to enter, you wish 150 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: to enter the to win the ultimate v I P 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: Game Day experience courtesy of who else but cors Light. 152 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: You want to text v I P to nine oh 153 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: four six four four more details. That is again two 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: oh one five one three is the number. The other 155 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: thing which was kind of funny today, Uh you know, 156 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: I forget who was somebody in the media asked Pat 157 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: about well other guys relieved, you know, because with all 158 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the talk about so and so, you know, this guy 159 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: possibly being traded or that guy possibly being traded, and 160 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Pat Trump brought out a good point. Well, hold on 161 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: a second. The talk is outside the building. We're not talking. 162 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I've been in this business for 163 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: thirty six years. I've seen you know, I know when 164 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: talk is real talk, and especially in the day of 165 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: social media, a lot of it is gibberish. I mean, 166 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: as Sherman said, generous Jenkins has been traded for three 167 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: straight years. So and he's still here. We were here 168 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: in Generous Jenkins, we were here, in Tree, we were here, 169 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: and Solder they were whispers about Evan Ingram what they 170 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: were old still here. I laughed at the fact that 171 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: when they started talking about Nate Solder and Evan Ingram 172 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: laughed because the reason why I laughed is because number one, 173 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: with Solder just being signed two years ago and this 174 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: is his second season with the Giants and the cat 175 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: number that he's at, you know that there's not going 176 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: to be a trade out there that's going to give 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: you the return on investment in that same thing with 178 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram being a young player that was drafted here 179 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: with his best football and his future up out of him. 180 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: Not to mention, what was this season all about when 181 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: they transitioned from Eli Manning to Daniel Jones, was to 182 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: make sure that Daniel Jones gets valuable experience and makes 183 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: progress throughout this season. So let's say, if you get rid, 184 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: if you get rid of his starting left tackle and 185 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: his tight end, how is he going to make progress? 186 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Knowing that you don't have anybody behind them that are 187 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: gonna play up to those standards. You can't. Yeah, I 188 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: agree with you. That's why I thought I was just 189 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: waiting to see. And you know, I've I've always said this, 190 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, and people say, well, that's got to come 191 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: from within the organization. I don't necessarily buy that. And 192 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: it's not just in this sport, folks, it's in all sports. 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Those agents have a way of just leaking, and more 194 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: leaks than the Titanic. But also there's a reason why 195 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: they do that. They may leak that one player not 196 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: because they have that player in within that organization. They 197 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: may have another player on another team that that organization 198 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: that they're trying to trade to may be interested in 199 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: the player that's on the Giants and his client. So 200 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: if he puts that out there or puts something else 201 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: out there, it may foresee issue much quicker based upon 202 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: that trade and acquiring somebody through that way as well. 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: So there's always that that bait and switch game that's 204 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: thrown out there by agents and by media trying to 205 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: number one get stories out there, but then number two 206 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: trying to manipulate and spin the trade deadline to get 207 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: their players or their clients taken care of. Well. To zero, one, five, one, 208 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: three is the number. Phone lines are open, all right, 209 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: so I didn't get a chance to discuss it with you. Uh, 210 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: the first quarter of the season was pretty good. It 211 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: was two and two. The second quarter not very good. No, 212 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: it's oh and four. So my question to you is 213 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: where you know what's the mindset? Listen, you've been part 214 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: of two awful losing streaks. You started off one season 215 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: oh and six. There was another seven game losing streaks. 216 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: I've been a part of four and twelves. I've been 217 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: a part of eight. Um, you tell me what's the 218 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: mindset put yourself as a former player inside that you're 219 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: on that team. Now, what's your mindset? Your mindset is 220 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: to go out there each and every practice and improve 221 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: the things that you've put on field on the field 222 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: for these first eight games, because if you don't make 223 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: those corrections, you're going to get exposed even more so, 224 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: not only individually, but as a group. You are a 225 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: professional football player in the NFL that has an opportunity 226 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: to wear that New York Giant's helmet. That is a 227 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: privilege to be able to do that. And when you're 228 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: going up and you have eight games left, it's all 229 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: about taking one week at a time and playing your 230 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: best football and doing whatever you can to help your 231 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: football team win. I know, well knocked out a playoff, 232 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: playoff contentions, all these other things. You can't think about 233 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: that as a player. It may be the truth and 234 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: it may be the fact, but in no way, shape 235 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: or form is that going to diminish the way that 236 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: you have to prepare and perform on Sundays. Because if 237 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: you're sitting at two six and you think with eight 238 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: games left that you're just gonna be able to sit back, 239 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: not perform, and more importantly, not prepare the way that 240 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: you needed to win football games, you're gonna be sadly mistaken, 241 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: because at the end of this season, just like every year, 242 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna be evaluated not only about the games that 243 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: you played well, but when the games you had nothing 244 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: to play for. They want to see what type of 245 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: character player you are, what type of person and competitor 246 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: that you are. And it's not only this team with 247 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: the New York Giants, there's thirty one other teams doing 248 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: the same exact thing. So it's an obligation not only 249 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: to you as a professional and to your contract, but 250 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: for your livelihood and your profession. You better go out 251 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: and sell out for these last eight games, because this 252 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: is the most important and crucial time of people evaluating 253 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: you as a player. That's why I've always said, you know, 254 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 1: sometimes fans would disagree. I've always said the losses, they 255 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: don't weigh on anybody worse than they to the players 256 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons. Number one is their team 257 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: number one. Number two, it's their embarrassment, if you will, 258 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: they don't feel good about it. It's it's their criticism 259 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: that they're taking. It's their criticism that they're taking. You 260 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: only get sixteen opportunities that are guaranteed to you, and 261 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: when it is their livelihood, as you say, it's their chance. 262 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: There's not just this team. There are thirty one other teams. 263 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: There are people dying for those jobs trying to listen. 264 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: I look, I watched guys every day on a practice squad. 265 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Oh I just saw it. Tay Davis get waived, and 266 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: you know he sent out a very nice thank you 267 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: for giving me the chance. But you see those things. 268 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: It comes and goes like that. You have to make 269 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: the most of the opportunity. So I mean, I've listen, 270 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: for example, when sa Quan got hurt, Wayne Gallman is 271 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: not a good guy. He's a terrific guy and a 272 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: terrific teammate. Wayne didn't want um say Quanty get hurt. 273 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: But when you poked away in the locker room, Hey, 274 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: it's my opportunity. It's show time for me, no question. 275 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: And that's something that you deal with as a football player, 276 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: and you know the magnitude of the situation. And if 277 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: you think that there's not a pressure that's put on 278 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: you as a football player, just come into this building 279 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, because what play takes place every Tuesday. There's 280 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: anywhere from fifteen to twenty free agents that some are 281 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: veteran players, some are rookie free agents somewhere on other 282 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: teams that got released from practice squads that are all 283 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: working out to just get that one opportunity, that one 284 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: chance to get back out on the football field, because 285 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: they know what it meant to him. Now that it's 286 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: slipped away, you don't want to leave any of those 287 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: regrets out on the field coming back and looking back 288 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: at the season, because moving forward, regardless of what your 289 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: record is, is in for either you're a part of 290 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: the solution or you're the problem and you're not gonna 291 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: be here to zero one, four or five one three. Folks, 292 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: We've got phone lines open, so give us a call. 293 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: We're here to take whatever you choose. To talk about 294 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: one thing that I wanted to bring up with you 295 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: before we get to some of the calls, uh Dave. 296 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I was very happy that Bruce arians opened up his 297 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: mouth the other day. I'm sure he was fine when 298 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: he said officials aren't held accountable, but I am telling 299 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: you we are seeing some of the worst officiating I 300 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: have ever seen. And the one that was jarring to 301 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: me that really I haven't seen a whole big deal 302 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: made about it, but late in the first half, that 303 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: running into the kicker when the Giants were up down 304 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: fourteen thirteen and had a chance to get the ball 305 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: again and maybe go up sixteen fourteen or maybe score 306 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown, that was the most god awful call I 307 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: had ever seen. And I we've seen some bad ones. 308 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: I just thought it was a ridiculous this call, and 309 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, talk about a game change. They went from 310 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: having the opportunity to go in with the lead, so 311 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: instead the the other team increases their lead from one 312 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: to four, and they were getting the ball to start 313 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: the second start the second half, and It literally was 314 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: the Best Dramatic Actor award by their kicker because it 315 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: literally grazed his shoe and his cleat. There was nothing 316 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: to cause him to fall over and to have that happen, 317 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: but he flopped and he got the call. To me, 318 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: it was just awful. And you know, the unfortunate thing 319 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: about it is is what do you do as a 320 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: Giant's team. You come back and on Monday, after reviewing 321 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: all the tape, you submit into the league offices, either 322 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: penalties that you think should have been called or penalties 323 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: that were called that you think that should not have 324 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: been And usually come Wednesday or Thursday, you get a 325 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: letter back from the NFL. Yeah we're wrong, that should 326 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: have been a call, but it doesn't change the outfit. Hey, 327 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: people lose John because of bad and it's not the 328 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: officials who are losing the job. It is not the 329 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: officials that are losing the jobs. It's gonna be players 330 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: and their coaches. No, it really, I mean that just 331 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way. And it wasn't just because 332 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: it went against the Giants. I just thought it was 333 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: an awful, awful call and arians brought it up, and 334 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was I'm sure he'll receive a hefty 335 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: fine for it. But I don't know. I don't know 336 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: what it is. I don't know if replay has made 337 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: these these officials lazy or they they're not doing their 338 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: due diligence. And it's not just it's not just the football, 339 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: because I don't want to get into a discussion about 340 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: baseball here, but boy, I saw a terrible call and 341 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: last night's uh game five, game six, excuse me, uh 342 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: down in Houston. Uh just you wonder what they're watching. 343 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: I just but I'm glad arians brought it out because 344 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it needs to be said. These officials are 345 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: not doing the job correctly, not at all. Two four 346 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: or five? One? Three is the number? What do you 347 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: say we open up? Open up this day by going 348 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: out to New Mexico check in with our friends. Scott. Hello, Scott, 349 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and David. Hi, guys, how you're 350 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: doing today? How are we doing good? Russ? I happen 351 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: to agree with you. I think that Hall is a 352 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: pivotal call in the game. That missing that you know, 353 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: the blocked or the supposedly running into the kicker, n 354 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: running into the kicker, But when I was listening to 355 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: the broadcast. I wanted to get a clarification before I 356 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: get to my main point. H Charles Davis, who was 357 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: announcing the game for Fox, had said that if he 358 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: were the giants, who would have challenged the calls? So 359 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: what's that called challengeable? And if it was, why didn't 360 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: Pet schurm Er challenge it? Uh? Well, if you're just 361 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: asking my opinion, and I'm gonna well, first of all, 362 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that that was a challengeable call. I 363 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: think I don't think it was a challengeable call. But 364 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: you know what, Scott, you know they asked. They asked 365 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: him on you know, with the passive deference on slate 366 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: in the end zone like hit. The same people who 367 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: are asking, when I say, the same people, media people 368 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: who are asking why didn't you, uh after the game, 369 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: why didn't you challenge that? Those are the same people 370 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: who are killing him for making the other challenges when 371 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you know the challenges aren't gonna go through. So to me, 372 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: the whole I I know, I understand, I understand, but listen, 373 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: this one was not challengeable. Okay, But but even if 374 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: it was, you know, you can go to the well 375 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: so many times, and you want to throw your hands 376 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: up because I don't. Again, that's why I'm I brought 377 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: this up. I think the system stinks. I think some 378 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: of the officiating stinks, and all in all, it needs 379 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: to be corrected, right, I agree. My main point really 380 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: has that they're obviously going to go up against Dallas 381 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: this week, and they're going to go against a very 382 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: good team obviously. But the question I have for both 383 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: of you is harken back to the two thousand seventh season. 384 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: Although that wasn't statistically one of the greatest seasons the 385 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: Giants had they won the Super Bowl, but one of 386 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: the characteristics that was imperative for the Giants that year 387 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: was their running attack. I think that three headed monster 388 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: they had, I think rush for over eight hundred yards 389 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: and that was a very big contributing factor to why 390 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: they wound up in the Super Bowl. And I wanted 391 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: to ask this year, it's been very difficult for the 392 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Giants to establish a running attack. And I was wondering 393 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: from your perspective, Eiland, one of you and Dave, I 394 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: guess because you're an offensive one, and maybe you can 395 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: address this, why has it been so difficult to establish 396 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: the running a tack. I realized the Giants are getting 397 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: behind uh and they're only games, and that's a contribute 398 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: very factor. But more importantly, they don't seem to stick 399 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: with the run, and they have two excellent backs. I 400 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: know they've been hurt when Goldman and Barkley, but it 401 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: seems like they seem to abandon it too quickly, and 402 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: I was wondering if there's a reason for that, or 403 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: if there's some other reason why they can't really establish 404 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: the running a tech because, as I've mentioned numerous times, 405 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: the teams that make it into the playoffs or the 406 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: teams that can run. Ten of the twelve teams last 407 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: year that made it into the playoffs were in the 408 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 1: top echelon of the you know of running, and we 409 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: can't seem to do it and attornin us. So I 410 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: was wondering what your opinions were on a Well, thanks, 411 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: thanks for the cost. Yeah, well, obviously this is something 412 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: that I talked about for previous weeks, but I've been 413 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: echoing this my entire career and even post career broadcasting. 414 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: Running the football never gets old and it never will 415 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: ever change because you dictate the tempo of the football game, 416 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: you wear down the opposing defense and you open up 417 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: everything schematically when you have a successful running game. One 418 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: of the things that I've talked about and I talked 419 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: about this last week, in order for the Giants run 420 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: game to get where it needs to go, they have 421 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: to get more explosive runs and better runs for yards 422 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: into the perimeter. Can you think about the last time 423 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: without say, Kowan Barkley bouncing it out there where it's 424 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: been a nice toss, pitch or sweep to the perimeter 425 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: that's gotten No. Seven eight nine yard runs. Those are 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: the things that make a defense wide and out and 427 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: open up things for you in the play action passing game. 428 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: And that takes all eleven on the field. Grant the 429 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: quarterback is not blocking, but wide receivers need to get 430 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: involved to help edge the defense when you are running 431 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: out there to the perimeter. So that's part of it. 432 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: So the perimeter running game has to get going. And 433 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: then number two, the other big thing that goes along 434 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: with the running game is you have to make sure 435 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: that you do things, whether it's stemming, whether it's motion, 436 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: whether it's anything that you can do to cause deception. 437 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Think about it. We fake the one time the Golden 438 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: tate like we're gonna jet sweep. There was an eight 439 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: yard run by s Kwon Barkley. Because now all of 440 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, you're making that defense look one way and 441 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: you run it the other way. Those are things that 442 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: have to get implemented into the game plan moving forward 443 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: here for the Giants running game to get where it 444 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: needs to go, because right now, when it's just inside 445 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: zone game, they're playing eight in the box and they're 446 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: not getting the push that they need to up front. 447 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: I think also Scott, you know, I understand Scott's question, 448 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: of course, but there's also something that just screams out 449 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: at it. And again it's not making excuses, but for 450 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: crying out loud. You know, say Kan was out for 451 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: three games, and and then if the Goldman has the 452 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: good game, he goes out in concussion protocol. Uh so 453 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: he's missing the game. I mean quite frankly, I think 454 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: our friend Nicole here was going to be the next 455 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: running back, next in line. Yeah, I mean no, but 456 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: you know again, it has to be next man up. 457 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: But when you want to talk about it's all of 458 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: what David has said. But listen, some of the injuries 459 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: you're not talking about just any running back. You're talking 460 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: about se Kwon Barkley when you don't have him in 461 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: the lineup. I mean that has a lot to do 462 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: with everything, including the passing. Not to mention the one 463 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: thing that we did know that there was a competition 464 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: in that running back room to see who was going 465 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: to be the number two and number three. If you 466 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: don't think moving forward here and going into next season, 467 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: that that is going to be one of the most 468 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: competitive groups on this football team to seal those positions, 469 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: You're gladly mistaken because that one injury to see Kwon 470 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: Berkeley once again showed how imperative it is to have 471 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: a secondary running back to where you don't lose any 472 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: head of steam moving forward and you can function as 473 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 1: an offense with that player in there. And you know, 474 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: then the other thing about the running game, and again 475 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: I told you this, I mentioned it yesterday. I'll say 476 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: it again. Give you credit because you were the one 477 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: who brought it up because I watched you on the 478 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: post game show. You know, se Quon in fanness to 479 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: sa Quan, he's been out. If you know anything about 480 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: se Quon, he was chomping at the bit. Uh. The 481 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: losing doesn't sit well with him, nor does it sit 482 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: well with anybody else on the team. But he's a 483 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: fierce competitor. He wants to make things happen. He's a 484 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: captain on this team. He's anxious, he's over anxious to 485 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: make something happen. And you brought it out. It's trying 486 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: to do a little too much. That's rear and it's 487 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of an ugly you know what happened 488 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: when when he started less. You're just trying to do 489 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: a little too much, and you brought out the point, 490 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, instead of trying to bounce right away, you know, 491 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: get that, get the four or five on the first down, 492 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: just just plow straight ahead. You know. It's not like 493 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: he's slide a frame and he's a monster, you know, 494 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: so so plaud straight ahead because let me tell you, 495 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: Daniel pat Sherman, everybody, you'd much rather be in second 496 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: in six or second in five as opposed to second 497 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: in eight or nine without a doubt. And that's something 498 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: that you know, we talked about when he was coming 499 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: out of Penn State, that he'd have those big explosive 500 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: plays when he would bounce outside because there was nothing 501 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: on the inside, and he was just that much faster 502 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: and better than everybody at the college game. That's one 503 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: thing that we talked about. Once you get to the 504 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: NFL level, people can run, people are fast, and that's 505 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: not going to be able to work every time. And 506 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I feel like last season it started off a little bit, 507 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: but then remember he had I had a discussion with 508 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: Dave Kettleman about those gritty yards, getting those extra two 509 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: or three, putting my foot in the ground going north 510 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: and south, and you saw him make that transition. I 511 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: feel like when he got injured in coming back in 512 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the magnitude of it, trying to you too much, he 513 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of got into that bad habit again, trying to 514 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: make a play where when he could have been a 515 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: little bit more patient, let the blocks develop and get 516 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: those dirty, gritty to three four yard runs again. I 517 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: don't think, oh, it's completely correctible. Yeah, when that suggests 518 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: that it's a major problem, but you know, haven't watched 519 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: this past week. When you're trying to do too much, Yeah, 520 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: that's all it is, you know, Uh, just trying to 521 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: do too much. As David says, to zero, one, four, five, one, 522 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: three is the number again Big Blue Kickoff live here, 523 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: brought to you by Corpse Light. Please, if you want 524 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: to enter to win the Ultimate v I P Gain 525 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: Day Experience courtesy of Coors Light, well, then you want 526 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: to text v I P Thanino four six four. That's 527 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: v I P than I Know four six four for 528 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: more details. But again the number here is to zero 529 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: one four five one three. Let's go down to Texas 530 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: and check in with Don. Don you're around with Russ 531 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: and Dave. We're in Texas, are you my friend? Hey? 532 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: David by the Dallas area? Okay, all right, all right, 533 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: I got a couple of questions for you, especially Dave. 534 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: I want to take your input on this. So my 535 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: first question in regards to Daniel Jones, and then I 536 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: have a question about the roster in regard to Daniel Jones. David, 537 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: at what point, because he's such a young rookie quarterback. 538 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: You saw Eli, you see all these other quarterbacks go 539 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: through it. At what point do you start seeing them 540 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: being comfortable with their reads that they start audibling at 541 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage Because there are sometimes that you 542 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: could kind of see that there's some place that when 543 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: you line up Daniels should make an audible to something else, 544 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: And at what point do you start seeing the confidence 545 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: and the comfort level with Daniel Jones doing audibles and 546 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: second um And I'll take my answer off the year 547 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: as the question that I have based on the current roster, 548 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: what do you see the biggest glaring needs one position 549 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: on the offense and one position on the defense. For me, 550 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: I see on the offense a right tackle is a 551 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: real big need, and on the defense, I see safety 552 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: going into the off season. Okay, to start off with 553 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: your your start with the checks and audibles. You know, 554 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: there's not many quarterbacks that you meet or talk to 555 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: that when they come in they get free rein to 556 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: just go to the line of scrimmage and change things. 557 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: A lot of times the quarterback will get a two 558 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: place sequence from the head coach, or you go through 559 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: a list of audibles if a certain blitz or a 560 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: certain look comes up that you check out of what 561 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: current play you have and check to that new play. 562 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Those are all things that are hammer out in your 563 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: your preparation and in your game plan during the week 564 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: so that when you go out there, the head coach 565 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: can either do that or you can check to those 566 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: plays based upon what you did in practice. But how 567 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: many times have we really seen throughout the career of 568 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: any NFL quarterback and all the way back to all 569 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: of famers to where in their rookie season they were 570 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: allowed the flexibility to check plays and just to put 571 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: themselves into whatever they want to do. There's really not 572 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: that option put out there for quarterbacks. Let alone, are 573 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: just having its discussion about Aaron Rodgers and his new 574 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: coach this year about that flexibility because the coach in 575 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: a new system and for Daniel Jones being a first 576 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: year guy, you don't want to put more on the 577 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: player's plate because now all of a sudden, not only 578 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: are you trying to get everybody lined up, but now 579 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: you're trying to go through your list of audibles and 580 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: all these other things that you don't have tailored in 581 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: the experience for that. So the head coaching coordinator morally 582 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: run those things throughout the weekend into the game plan. 583 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: And then as you get more experience and the more 584 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: comfort you get and the better you play with it, 585 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: and that cohesion you have with your offensive line and 586 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: the rest of the offense, that's where that's given to you. 587 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: That has to be earned that's not something that you 588 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: know you come in as a quarterback. Hey, go ahead, 589 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: check what all audible you want to go out there with. 590 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: It's not like that. It's structured to where the old 591 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: coordinator and the head coach are the ones that implement 592 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: that and start loosening up the reins after you get 593 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: experience and playing well in the system. And how about 594 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: what he asked for in terms of what they need 595 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: moving forward? He was in the number one, one offensive guy, 596 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: one defensive guy, he said, he said, one with his 597 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: his two guys, I believe we're right tackle and safety. 598 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I would say for the defensive side, middle linebacker, one 599 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: that can guide run this defense, do everything and it 600 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: can be not only a run stopper, but can cover 601 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: people in the passing game, running backs and tight ends. 602 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: And then for me on the offensive side of the ball, 603 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: as much as I want to say right tackle and 604 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: which is going to be addressed, you know that for 605 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: sure fact, I'd say number one wide receiver, another deep 606 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: speed threat down the field to open up things in 607 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: the short and intermediate game. For Golden Tate, Sterling Shepard 608 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: and Evan England. Now I will say this, the young 609 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: man has really stepped up listening. Yeah, without a doubt. 610 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: We were talking about it yesterday because one of the 611 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: things that was annoying me, and it really has hurt 612 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones at times this year. I was complaining about 613 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: I think when you the last time we went together, 614 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: we spoke about it. The receivers, this is the NFL, 615 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: go make a play and when the ball is yere, 616 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't want the defensive player grabbing it from me. 617 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: I want to grab it and not once, but twice. 618 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: And I was like chairing watching the game. Slayton did 619 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: that twice. The touchdowns against the Lions, and we're talking 620 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: about fifty fifty balls where you're going up there bottying 621 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: up to win at the highest point and to come 622 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: down for touchdowns. Those are great things to see and 623 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: great things out of him positively, And this is one 624 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: of the things that I've talked about, you know, throughout 625 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: this season and up until this point when Slayton got 626 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: in and started making dynamic plays. Daniel Jones and Slayton 627 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: have been thrown to each other since rookie minicamp. So 628 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: it's great now that they're getting out on the field 629 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: and you're starting to see all that work that they 630 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: put on during the off season and the preseason starting 631 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: to show up on film. And that's something that you're 632 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: excited about and that you can see for a long 633 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: term period of time. You know, in the postgame show. 634 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: I brought this up in the postgame show, somebody I 635 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: don't know who was asked Daniel Jones when he was 636 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: at the podium, well, you seem to be thrown to 637 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Darius Layton a lot. Is there a reason for that? 638 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones like, like very unassimlingly said, well, yeah, he's 639 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: a good player. No, but but I mean, but now 640 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: you bring it up. Yeah, they've been together, you know, 641 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: from the very beginning, and you know it's paying dividends 642 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: and don't forget slat and go off to a slow 643 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: start with the handing. So and another thing that goes 644 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: along with us And I always tell young receivers this, 645 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 1: and I know that it's something that goes around the league. 646 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: As a young receiver, it is imperative for you to 647 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: capitalize on your opportunities in practice and to make plays 648 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: with the quarterback because if you make plays and get 649 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: open in practice and the quarterbacks throwing into the ball, 650 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: odds are you're gonna get the ball thrown to you 651 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: in the game because he's building that trust and that 652 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: confidence in you that you're going to be in the 653 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: right spot. And a lot of times quarterbacks will do 654 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: this subconsciously. They're not sitting there going through oh, I'm 655 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: just gonna throw it to slate subconsciously with their comfort 656 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: and the way that they go through their progressions in practice, 657 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: it just happens naturally on the game field. So that's 658 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: why we always talk about for young receivers, if you 659 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: don't practice and you expect that you're gonna go out 660 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: there and catch ten balls in the football game, don't 661 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: because that quarterback's not gonna have that confidence that you're 662 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: gonna be exactly where you need to be at the 663 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: right time to get the ball. Quarter Now, two zero 664 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: one four or five one three is the number, folks, 665 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: phone lines are open again. Two zero one, five one 666 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: three is the number. I like that phrase, you know, 667 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's used several times, but you know, I 668 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: think it's worth mentioning again. You use the term fifty 669 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: fifty balls, and and listen, this is not high school, 670 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: it's not even college. This is the NFL. Most of 671 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: them are fifty five clo tight windows radius and he 672 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: and Daniel. A very strong point of Daniel is and 673 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: anybody will tell you that if you watch him in 674 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: a regular basis, he can throw into a tight window. 675 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: Receiver's got to like that. But the point is, if 676 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: you're getting help from the quarterback doing that, you have 677 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: to make sure you grabbed that football. And I thought, uh, 678 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: you know what, as you said, there's got to be 679 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: the trust. It's got to be the trust. And he's 680 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: got to know if I'm gonna put the ball there, 681 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna go up and get it, or I'm gonna 682 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: put the ball down there, you're gonna go get it. 683 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: And if you don't get nobody else is going to 684 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,399 Speaker 1: get it. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, And that's something great that 685 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: that you'd like to see out of slate. And the 686 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: thing that you know surprises me. Obviously we've spent time 687 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: with him, You spend time with them. But doesn't he 688 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: look way taller than six one when he's out on 689 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: the field. He looks, he looks like he's much He 690 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: looks he looks much bigger out on the field than 691 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't in person. Yeah, I agree with you on 692 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 1: that he plays at a different speed. And that's the 693 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: great thing and the one thing that we you know, 694 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: we talked about in the post game in which you know, 695 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: he'll understand. It was a tough ball to catch to 696 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,959 Speaker 1: the sidelines to where right before half when they took 697 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: that shot to see if they could get a field 698 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: goal before through to the sidelines. Daniel Jones put it 699 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: there and there was a concentration and looking towards the 700 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: sidelines and it was a drop. That was something that 701 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: and that is something that Slaton will improve on knowing 702 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: that those three points before half could have been huge. Yeah, 703 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: I that was the click going the opposite. Yeah, that 704 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: was just anxious to make something, trying to look at 705 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 1: the sidelines see if he had to drag his feet. 706 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: You know, they only got the ball with actually you know, 707 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: he makes that catch even though they will only get 708 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: in the boat with twelve seconds left. You take one 709 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: more shot and you still had time out. You still 710 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,879 Speaker 1: had time time out. So anyway, two O one four 711 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: five one three is the number. Uh let's go to Uh. 712 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: I guess we're going to Portland, Maine and checking back 713 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: in with Charlie. Hello again, Charlie, you're on with Russ 714 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: and Paul that Dave rather Paul Paul. Yeah, I got dots. 715 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: I got dots on my mind. Go ahead, just a 716 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: little bit about the game coming up. Um Dallas has 717 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: got a pretty good pass rush and they just added Bennett, 718 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: they got Lawrence. You know, in the last couple of 719 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: games with to See we had eight sacks and then 720 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: we had four sacks, so you know they're going to 721 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: get sacks. The point the thing is, it's okay to 722 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: get a sack, but the quarterback has to hold onto 723 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: the ball. If we start fumbling the ball, this is 724 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: going to be a long day. But for you to 725 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: sit there and started off and say it's okay to 726 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 1: give up sex, I mean, what kind of statement is that, Charlie. 727 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: It is not okay, okay, that's who we've been doing. No, 728 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of like it's going to happen, and you're 729 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: not going up against a team that it doesn't have 730 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. They do. I know that, But 731 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 1: to diminish the fact that no, we can give up 732 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: a sack, No, you don't want any of that to happen, 733 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: let alone to sack forced fumble that we know Robert 734 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: Quinn and DeMarcus Lawrence and now with the addition of 735 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, which is exactly what they're going to be 736 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah, and so you know, David, you're gonna 737 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 1: tell me that they're not the Giants offensive lines are 738 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,399 Speaker 1: not going to give any sacks up this week. It's 739 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: happened before, hasn't it, Charlie not, has it? Well, you know, Charlie, 740 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 1: as always is the case. We know, Charlie, and thank 741 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: you for the call. But as usual, you're leading us 742 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: right to where are you going to the promised land? 743 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: What's the promised land? Daniel Jones? Because as he started, 744 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is if he's gonna get sacked, sacked is okay, 745 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: But you can't fumble the ball. It's you know, Charlie, 746 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: you don't want Daniel Jones touch. Charlie's got eli itis 747 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: and that's fine and it's completely understandable. But you know 748 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: to sit here and say, oh, Sex are okay, but 749 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: you gotta hold onto it. No, you don't want this 750 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: guy getting hit whatsoever. And that's why you're gonna have 751 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: to manipulate the launch point in the game plan for 752 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: this football game predicated I'm running the football in order 753 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: to have a successful outing on Monday Night up against 754 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Listen, we don't want sacks, and we 755 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,280 Speaker 1: don't want fumbles, and we want execution. Isn't that basic 756 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: one on one football? No question, Run the football and 757 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to do their best to keep this 758 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 1: Dallas offense off of the field. I mean that to me, 759 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: there being without a doubt. They're gonna have to control 760 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: time of possession in this game. And I know a 761 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: lot of people always go, well, the team that has 762 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,959 Speaker 1: the time of possession doesn't always win. It's the team 763 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: that has the most points. Time of possession is critical 764 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: when you're facing a team like the Dallas Cowboys that 765 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: their whole game plan and their whole wins are all 766 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: going through. Number twenty one is Zekiel Elliott. Yeah, I mean, 767 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: let's listen, you played with the guy. I mean, he's 768 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: a blood brother to you. I'm talking about Eli Man. Okay, 769 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: I've sat here, you know me. I know Eli was 770 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: sixteen years Paul's the same. We're all Eli fans. But 771 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: Charlie Scott to get over the fact that Eli is 772 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: out and Daniel Jones is in and you can't continually 773 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: look at that. I mean, like, you know, I cut 774 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: Jolly off yesterday because you're starting a conversation that he 775 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: was the culp for the reason we lost the game 776 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: after a guy throws for four touchdowns. I mean, it's 777 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: just And the other thing that you know that that 778 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: goes along with this is is that you know a 779 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: lot of people on a lot of people will say, well, 780 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, you know you want to get him the experience, 781 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: but you know, would you want to sprinkle Eli Manning 782 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: in here once in a while. No, you have to 783 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: have the prosperity and you have to handle the university 784 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: all the same when you go through an NFL season, 785 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: because it's not going to be perfect. You're not going 786 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: to be perfect for sixteen games out of the year, 787 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: and it's the mental toughness to be able to bounce back. 788 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: We can and week out and have the best amount 789 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: of preparation and put out the best product out on 790 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: the football field comes to you as a man and 791 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: as a competitor. So to sit there and to do that, 792 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: that's not going to solve anything. I'm gonna be frank 793 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: with you. You might disagree with this. Uh, from what 794 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: I've seen from Daniel Jones, I'm seeing better than what 795 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: I expected to see after eight games. I mean when 796 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 1: I say I'm first of all, I wasn't astute on 797 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: all of what Daniel Jones did in college, and neither 798 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: was anybody else. Because if anybody else was there and 799 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: told you that they watched Duke football, yeah it's full 800 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: of garbage, okay. And all the same people who all 801 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,800 Speaker 1: the same people who was screaming when Daniel Jones was drafted, 802 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: with the same people who are put the headlines after 803 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Yeah, they're kissing Danny Dimes push right now. 804 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's truly, it's been unbelievable by the way 805 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: that he's been able to come in and granted, nobody 806 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: wants to see the interceptions or the forced fumbles and 807 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: the fumbles and losing them. We all get that, but 808 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: some of the things that he's been doing as a 809 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 1: quarterback in his first year are absolutely phenomenal. I mean, 810 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: the fact that he can change and get in and 811 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: out of things, the fact that he's been able to 812 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: guide his offense, the fact that he's been able to 813 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: go through his progressions to make right decisions to take 814 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: the amount of hits that he's taken, and to bounce 815 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: right back up to take those hits and not think, oh, 816 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 1: I need to just take off and run with the 817 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: football like a lot of young quarterbacks do. He has 818 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: the ability, and he has the ability to do that. 819 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: But what happens they start seeing the Russian field instead 820 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 1: of feeling the rush, and all of a sudden, their 821 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: games running scrambling and it's all off que. You've seen 822 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: him make progress, even though it's right now, not showing 823 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: up in wins or statistical numbers right now, but you 824 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: could see the progress and and play in and play 825 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: out and this resume that he's putting out right now. 826 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: He's physically tough, he is mentally tough. And you know, 827 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 1: there are things you don't know until you see it happen. 828 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: I see it up close on the field, I see 829 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: it in the locker room. Uh. He is a bona 830 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: fide leader the players, and you see all they all 831 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: respond to him. He gets their attention in a finger snap. 832 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: He is clearly their leader. At the bright old age 833 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: of twenty two. He is the leader on offense. There's 834 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: no if ends or butts about it. And I didn't 835 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: know I was gonna see that. I didn't. You didn't 836 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: because you don't know. You think that's the potential of 837 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: what can happen, But when bullets start getting shot and 838 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: there's live rounds going around, you don't know how that 839 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: player is really going to respond. No, no, really, I 840 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: I that's so. That's why I say he's better than 841 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,879 Speaker 1: what I expected. I just think I've seen a lot 842 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: of the positive is far outweigh the negatives. The far 843 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: outweigh the negatives. He's a bounced back guy. Just we 844 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: were talking off there. As soon as you know, the 845 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: seven points right away off the top off the lateral pass, 846 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: he bounced right back. The bounces right back comes up 847 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 1: with four touchdowns. I mean, really, you know so, I 848 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: mean the pros far outweigh the cons. When it comes 849 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones, let's go to Long Island to a 850 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: one four five one three is the number out on Alan. 851 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: It is Jeff, Jeff, you're talking to Russ and David. Hi, guys, 852 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: good afternoon. I'm calling because now that we can talk 853 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about Lennon Williams, I think it's very 854 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: uh uh coincidental that not only did we get him now, 855 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: but we're also playing Dallas on Monday night considering Ezekiel Elliott. 856 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: As you mentioned before, run defense is going to be 857 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: very important. I like Leonard Williams strength. I think everybody 858 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: has been all over the board about him about what 859 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: he should be doing and what his strength his weakness 860 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: is are. But I think it's pretty good that we 861 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: have him at this point in time, based on his experience, 862 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: based on actually he's already faced Dallas to his team 863 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 1: one at that time. But I think, uh, it was 864 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: a pretty good move. What do you think? Well, I 865 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know, Jeff if if you heard us talk before, uh, 866 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 1: because we kind of started the show talking about that. 867 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: I listen, Dave will tell you what he thinks. But 868 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: I think we we concur together here. To me, it's 869 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: a no brainer. I mean, he he makes the defense 870 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: immediately better. Uh he's if he's not the best defensive 871 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: lineman on the team right now, I don't know who is. 872 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: And that's not that's not to be disparaging what's here. 873 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,719 Speaker 1: He's a very good player. And every defensive technicle you 874 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: have has to have different traits. I mean between b 875 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: J b J. Hill Delvin Tomlinson and him. You have 876 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: three interior guys that can do multiple things. You know, 877 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: you have Thomas and who's more the run stuffer, double 878 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 1: team holder. You have b J Hill, who can do 879 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: that but wants to penetrate more. You have Leonard Williams 880 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: who has di versatility to do both of those. Now, 881 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: the big thing is is moving forward, are this group 882 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 1: playing together in cohesion and getting that pass rush together, 883 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: because that's the next initial part that they need to 884 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: work on. And that's gonna be a part of not 885 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: only him working with Lorenzo Carter and next man, but 886 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: that's one of the big things that they're gonna need 887 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: to do moving forward, whether it's through free agency of 888 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: the draft, is acquiring another top not first class defensive 889 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 1: end that can get off of the quarterbacks on those 890 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: one on ones to free up everything else for the 891 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: d line. You know, just standing theology continues, standing in 892 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: the locker room looking at him standing side by side 893 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: and then also coming off the field practice today side 894 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: by side with text to Lawrence Man. Those are two imposing, 895 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: big athletic men. When I say big, I'm not just 896 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: talking I'm not talking round. I'm saying big athletic men understood. 897 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: And the question I have, I guess as an off 898 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: shoot to this is um you know, I've seen coaches 899 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: in the track in the past tried to push their agenda, 900 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: push their their type of game plan, no matter who 901 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: the personnel was. Now you have James Betcher, who you know, 902 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: who starts off with a three four. But obviously there's 903 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility there, you know, with a lot 904 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: of different players. But because you're building a line that 905 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: has a lot of studs on that line, is there 906 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: any possibility that he might say consider or consider that, well, 907 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe I should start with the four three and work 908 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: off of that. Well, you know, we kind of talked 909 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: about that earlier, Jeff, because you know, the one thing 910 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: is is that when people get so caught up in 911 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: well there are three four, they're not a four three. 912 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,959 Speaker 1: You run four three looks out of your three four, 913 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: and you look around the league, you maybe a three 914 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: or four team. Certain situations you're going to run a 915 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: four down look. So there's multiple looks that you that 916 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: you're not so much categorized as just one or the 917 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,760 Speaker 1: other anymore. And then to go along with it. Leonard 918 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: Williams at his hype rub young age of five years old. Amazing. 919 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: What's the one thing that you're always looking for out 920 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: of defensive lineman, what's the best ability availability? Sixteen games played, 921 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 1: sixteen games played, sixteen games played, sixteen games played. He 922 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: showed the durability that he can hold up throughout an 923 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: entire RNFL season. You know what, Jeff, Sometimes this is 924 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: coming from a player who knows what injuries are about. 925 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes that does not get appreciated in the world of sports. 926 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: Guys who are in their day in and day out 927 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: and also able to perform. I thought the acquisition of Leonard, 928 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, when it happened, I thought it was a 929 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: no brainer. I you know that they were able to 930 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: get him. We again, we spoke about it. You're asking 931 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: about you know, acquisitions. You know here we are. Everybody 932 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,879 Speaker 1: was talking about this soldier was gonna go, and and 933 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: Jack Rabbitt and Norris Jenkins was gonna go, and Olga 934 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 1: Tree was gonna go, and we're whispers about Evan Ingram. Well, 935 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 1: you know what, they're all here, and so is Leonard 936 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,320 Speaker 1: Williams now So it's the team personnel wise, is better 937 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 1: than it was on Sunday. Well, if we believe in 938 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,439 Speaker 1: the rumors, Matt Patricia would be the head coach, Eli 939 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: Manning would be on the Jaguars, and Odell Beckham Jr. 940 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: Would be a ram Right now, that's exactly right. I mean, really, 941 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: you know it happened. It happens all the time, Jeff. 942 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: You know that as a fan, as a fan, right 943 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 1: and I can't wait until offseason. I mean I want 944 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: to see the season play out positively for the Giants. 945 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: But you know, when when you talk about what media 946 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: reports and whatnot, I think we also we as Giants fans, 947 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,720 Speaker 1: have to take that into consideration that it's media talking 948 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,600 Speaker 1: and it's not the Giants talking. Well well, well you 949 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 1: know what, again, we touched on this, but I I 950 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: keep repeating myself, but you weren't on at the beginning. 951 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: You know. Pat Sherman was asked by one of the 952 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: members and media today when we're talking. Pat Sherman was asked, well, 953 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: you know, what's the locker room like? Now? Are they 954 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: relieved that nobody has gone? And this sitting to my 955 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: left here as a former player, the rumors and all 956 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,480 Speaker 1: that stuff, really all the talk to jibber jabber, if 957 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,279 Speaker 1: you will, is outside the building is what Shermer said. 958 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: Inside the building, they do their job. You know who 959 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: is I'll tell you one since you bring that up, 960 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: you know who is absolutely as good as anybody I've 961 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 1: ever seen handling the rumors and he was pestered for 962 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: the last two or three years. Is generous Jenkins. They 963 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,319 Speaker 1: and they kept wanting to get him to say, well 964 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: as if he's gonna say he's p oed or he's 965 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: ticked off of this and that it's football, man, it's 966 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: the business. I can't worry about it. Do well, do 967 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: you want to be here? Here? I'm here, this is football. 968 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: They're paying me. I'm here. But that's you know now, well, 969 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 1: but he's not saying he wants to be here. That's 970 00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: the business of football. That's it. It's the business of sports. 971 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I miss the beginning then, you know, but 972 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: but those are those are good questions. I mean, that 973 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 1: is the nature of the beast. And the other thing 974 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: I'll go along with Jeff and which you said, you 975 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 1: obviously said, you know, you're really excited for the season, 976 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 1: and that's great. But you know, the thing is is 977 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,360 Speaker 1: that even when it's tough, you know, when you're knocked 978 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: out of If you're not on playoff contention and you're watching, 979 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,720 Speaker 1: you know these games. I loved playing in these games 980 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: and watching these games. Why because I wanted to know 981 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: who the guys who are fighters next to me. I 982 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 1: wanted to know who the guys when the chips were 983 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: stacked against him that did not care. And we're gonna 984 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: play with pride and play with confidence and have that 985 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: going out there each and every game, because those were 986 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 1: the players that stuck and helped us win super Bowls 987 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: when they weren't first strong draft pick or second round picks. 988 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 1: The guys who have heart and show that they want 989 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 1: and deserve to be on this football team when the 990 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,839 Speaker 1: adversity hits make the biggest difference. When prosperity is here, 991 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: it's it's easy to you know, be good, to be 992 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: a good teammate and everything when the going is good. 993 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: What are you gonna be like when it's not so good? 994 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: Anything else? Jeff before Jeff, thank you. It's like the 995 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 1: old quote, you know all your friends know you in prosperity, 996 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,400 Speaker 1: but you know your friends in adversity. Yeah, let me 997 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: let me ask you this. As a player, Uh, you know, 998 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: were you able to tell and I'm not even asking 999 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: it to single anybody out, but were you able to 1000 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: tell when a guy shut it down? Yeah, guys shut 1001 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: it down, or even at the now that he ain't 1002 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 1: made it the right stuff. Yeah, you can see it 1003 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: right away. Now if one guy sees it, does that 1004 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: mean everybody sees it? Body language never whispers its screen times. 1005 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, when you're around each other for so long 1006 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,440 Speaker 1: and you're playing up against him and out on the 1007 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: practice field and watching the games, and then all of 1008 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, somebody's doing something outside of their character or 1009 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,960 Speaker 1: not playing with that same effort or motor, or not 1010 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,720 Speaker 1: going and attacking their preparation or being in the building 1011 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: the same amount as they did when things were great. 1012 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: It shows up immediately, and you know what, it's not 1013 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: only does it waiver in the way that they play, 1014 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: It waivers in the way that everybody else looks at 1015 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,719 Speaker 1: them because they know that they're not a pent all 1016 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: in because the chips are down. Yeah, I mean to me, 1017 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: that's always been something that you know, it's one thing 1018 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 1: for us And and sometimes then the flip side of 1019 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: that is sometimes somebody gets labeled for some stupid reason. 1020 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 1: Look like you can be on the side. David Deal 1021 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,319 Speaker 1: could be on the sideline and the Giants could have 1022 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,840 Speaker 1: been getting whipped thirty one to nothing, and somebody called 1023 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 1: David Deal smiling, smiling, Yeah, what the hell is he? 1024 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 1: What I mean, he doesn't he doesn't take it serious 1025 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: sleeve that all. It happens all the time, all the time, 1026 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: all the time. I've always said that is not fair. 1027 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: Just that and injuries. Don't judge unless you know. Sometimes 1028 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: when you're getting the crap kicked out of you, levity 1029 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: can be a good thing every once, right, exactly, all right, 1030 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: we got time for one, maybe one or two more. 1031 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: The tank in Tampa, Frank, the tank in Tampa. Frank, 1032 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and David Deal. How are we 1033 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 1: doing today, Frank? Good? How are you doing? Good? Good? 1034 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: Got a couple of minutes, So what do you got 1035 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,959 Speaker 1: And I'm listen, we're wondering how the Giants are gonna 1036 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: do against House since like the rest couple of games 1037 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 1: we've been like not scoring first. Well, listen, uh, we 1038 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: want to score first because quite frankly, that has been 1039 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, in Pat Charmer has addressed that one of 1040 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,520 Speaker 1: the things that have been killing Are you there what's 1041 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: the scratch? Do you got a road in on the 1042 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: line with you something? Oh? All right, there you go. No, 1043 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, as Pat Sherman said, being outscored thirty 1044 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,439 Speaker 1: eight to nothing in the last you know, and who 1045 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: the hell who wants to keep starting games behind the 1046 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 1: eight ball? The Giants aren't good enough for that. Yes, 1047 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: they can come back, but worry about you know, I 1048 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: asked Pat Sherman this last week. Is your team gonna 1049 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: become really good? Pat? Will your giants become really good 1050 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: when they learn how to beat the opponent and not themselves. 1051 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: That's everything, that's it. And you know the thing that 1052 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,280 Speaker 1: goes along with the fast start, it's not just Daniel Jones. 1053 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: It's having an effective running game to help out so 1054 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 1: you're not chasing the chains and you're in third and manageables. 1055 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: But it also comes down to the wide receivers catching 1056 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 1: the football and not having the drops have All these 1057 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 1: things go hand in hand, and that's why we talked 1058 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: about and in this game three to one, no more 1059 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: than three penalties by the offense too, by defense one 1060 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: by special team, control time of possession, and they have 1061 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: to win the turnover battle in order to beat the 1062 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: Dallas car I mean the turnover battle, it's got to 1063 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 1: be number one. You know what, I'm not even gonna 1064 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: say to turnover battle is number one, because we give 1065 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 1: them too many of those up at that same old 1066 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: cliche word execution, execution, execution, and that's something that the 1067 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 1: Giants do not execute consistently on a consistent basis. They 1068 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,840 Speaker 1: don't and that has to and if they want to 1069 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,920 Speaker 1: get energized and get things rolling right now and a 1070 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 1: home field advantage Monday night football, Dallas Cowboys, this is 1071 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 1: if there's any time to do it, it is immediately, 1072 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: and it is right now. Because when you can do 1073 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: that and put a young quarterback in a position to 1074 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: have early success in the football game, that is going 1075 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: to give him the confidence to play throughout that way. 1076 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: If you're playing behind the chains, you're in third and long's, 1077 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: you're getting hit, your defense is given up touchdowns. It's 1078 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: hard for those things because all of a sudden, it 1079 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,400 Speaker 1: feels like you're in quicksand and it keeps pulling you in. Listen, 1080 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: start fast, don't make mistakes, and if you don't start, 1081 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: let's let's let's for argument's sake, Jeff, and thank you 1082 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: for the call. For argument's sake, let's say Giants got 1083 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: the ball first. Okay, if the love that I always 1084 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: I've always, as an offensive player, wanted the ball first. 1085 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: Let's say they get the I know the analytics and 1086 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 1: probabilities tell you to defer to the second half. As 1087 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: an offense, I always wanted to get that first hit 1088 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,080 Speaker 1: out here, and I wanted our offense and our teams 1089 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,560 Speaker 1: set the temple and to dictate the temple of the 1090 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 1: football game instead of sitting back and waiting to see 1091 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: what happened. Well, but my point was going to be, 1092 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: if you're getting the ball first, then don't go three 1093 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,280 Speaker 1: and out because that's no good. And then if you 1094 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: don't get the first defense, don't let their offense go 1095 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: on an eight minute drive to lower everybody to sleep. 1096 00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: And then your offense comes on after the other team 1097 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 1: scored after the momentum. Yeah, that's exactly it. So you 1098 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 1: don't want to do that, Go ahead, get out. I'm 1099 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: sure they're gonna be revd up, anxious to go. It's 1100 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 1: Monday night. You got a new player in Leonard Williams. 1101 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: It is the cowboy cowboys. You don't need I don't 1102 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 1: care if you're in a parking lot. You don't need 1103 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 1: extra motivation to play the Dallas Cowboys anyway, Folks, that 1104 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,800 Speaker 1: is a rap on today are thanks to the lovely 1105 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 1: the Cole Barrows so takes such good care of us 1106 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: at the controls, to my buddy here the big man 1107 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: David Deal, and myself Russ Salzburg. As always, thanks to 1108 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: you out there, because without you, folks, we'd have nobody 1109 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: to hear to be talking to. So until next time, 1110 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: bye bye, so long, and farewell, Happy Halloween.