1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. Presented by 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Castro alleged DJ Bucky back with you, Buck. How you 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: doing man? You got a little sweat going today? What 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: are we up to? I got a little swig going 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: because I had a little workout. Um, I slept a 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: little late, so I was trying. I was trying to. 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: I was trying to get it in because high school 9 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: for while they started, So now we're practicing at night, 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: and so my schedule with my body clock is all 11 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: thrown off. It's all, it's all weird, but it's all 12 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: were playing. Are we playing Friday? We got a game 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: from No, we don't. We don't play until after spring breaks. 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna play a first game until April ninth, and 15 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: we have a four game season and we're good. Speaking 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: of four game seasons, have you been checking out some 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: of this stuff in the spring? Somebody called what I 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: I must admit I have not. I have not seen 19 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: any of it. And I know there's going to be 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: a handful of guys maybe maybe you know, maybe less not, 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: maybe some guys are gonna get picked that are playing 22 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: in spring, which is really crazy, right, Yeah, it's hard. 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to keep up with it because it's just 24 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: a different time clock. Right. You have March Madness on 25 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: once on on don't you have UH games on the 26 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: other channel. I didn't get a chance to see a 27 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: couple of small college games. We've got a chance to 28 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: see Dan seem Jackson stated lost to Alabama State. But 29 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: it is kind of cool to see games that I 30 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: never would have been able to check out in the 31 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: fall because it's such an inventory and catalog of games 32 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: during the fall that you just can't possibly see everything. 33 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: So I do believe that there are guys who would 34 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: get more eyeballs on them than ever before because it's 35 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: the only show in town. So that is a positive 36 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: for UM. Some of the players that have an opportunity 37 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: played to spring. Yeah, we've been saying that, you know, UH, 38 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: that it makes sense for the lower levels to play 39 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: in the spring. I do, UM, I'm with you on 40 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: that one. Today we've got a good show. We're gonna 41 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: talk about some of the quarterback fits. UH wrote an 42 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: article about just after free agency, the dust is kind 43 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: of starting to settle a little bit. What makes sense 44 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: good fits there, Um, I want to talk to you about, uh, 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: some of the I'll call them like the sleepless night 46 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: debates that we have in this draft class. I don't 47 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: know about you, Buck, but like for me, Um, I 48 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: feel like there's more kind of going from man, this 49 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: guy or that guy, this guy that guy, And in 50 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: years past you kind of could put some of those 51 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: things to bed, and now I just feel like because 52 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: the information is so incomplete and the more you learn 53 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: as you go along, I mean, well, we'll get to them. 54 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: But like the one that keeps me up at night 55 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: is the two Alabama receivers, you know, Davonte Smith, Jalen Waddle. 56 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: It's just like Finkel and iron Horn, iron Horn and Finkel, 57 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: like trying to go back and forth on that the PROSNS. Yeah, 58 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. Obviously, there are a lot of 59 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: people out there, um, in the scouting world, not only 60 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: scouts but media guys who are scouts that you respect, 61 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: and I think this year, more than any of the year, 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: has been the most discrepancies that I've seen when it 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: comes to how guys view guys, Like everyone has a 64 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: difference top five when it comes to certain positions there's 65 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: certain guys that people are really high on, and then 66 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: you go back and look, he's like, man, I don't 67 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't get it. And I 68 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: think just because it's not a level of playing field. 69 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: You have guys that aid in, guys who didn't play, 70 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Guys who were really good in twenty nineteen. To do 71 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: you grade them on the curve when they didn't play, 72 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Guys who played a handful of games, Guys who may 73 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: have been impacted by injury or COVID in twenties, So 74 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: how much do you deem them? It's different. And then 75 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: when you throw out the combine, because the combine would 76 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: be the opportunity not only for you to see guys 77 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: work out, but to kind of get a layer of 78 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: the land when it comes to the side by side stuff, 79 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: compare and contrast, you don't have that. And you know, 80 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: we were having a conversation prior to to taping the 81 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: podcast when we talk about multiple pro days and some 82 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: schools having multiple pro days and some prospects electing the 83 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: way to the second pro day. Some prospects won't run 84 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: at all. So what do we do with these incomplete 85 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: profiles when they they never measure. We never get a height, 86 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: weight speed on them. We just don't know, and so 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: you're kind of guessing as to what they are. And 88 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: I know you have talked about it, Uh, you and 89 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: Bruce talked about gp US and timing and kind of 90 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: getting in game stuff. But man, like you just talked 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: about all the things that we learned when we jumped 92 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: into business. There's so many boxes that to go unchecked. 93 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: And we were a month away from draft day. Yeah, 94 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: And I do want to point out though, because I 95 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: think some people think, hey, they haven't played any games, 96 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: how does an order change? And I'm like, dude, if 97 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: you only knew what it was like inside the draft froom, 98 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: that that order from every draft meeting changes pretty drastically. 99 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: How you're going through that because you're getting more information, 100 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: You're getting a chance to see more, you get a 101 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: chance to talk to more people, you get a chance 102 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: to learn more about the kid. And in a case 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: like let's let's get into a couple of these yere 104 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: because I want to talk about a couple of these debates. 105 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: So that the receiver thing I had an initially Davonte 106 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Smith over waddle. Then I go back and I really 107 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: try to lock in on waddle watch him from last 108 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: year this year, I saw the progression before he got hurt. 109 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: I see he's so much more explosive and dynamic. He's 110 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: a little bit stronger. So you know what, I'm gonna 111 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: flip that, I'm gonna go waddle over Davante Smith. So 112 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: then you start, you start talking to people all that 113 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: have visited with DeVante Smith, and they're like, this guy 114 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: is like talking to a tenure pro, like he is 115 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: dialed in. He there's like just no, there's no concerns there. 116 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I know the frame. We've talked about the frame, about 117 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: how high you could go with that. But they said, 118 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: this kid is impressive when you talk to him. So 119 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: you kind of hear that and then okay, let me 120 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: go back and just refresh. Watch a little bit more. 121 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Devontan Man. He's gosh buck. He's a great route runner. Man, 122 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: he's a great route runner. And I go back over 123 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: and I go, okay, let's go back and look at 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: our hits and mrs and the conversations that we have 125 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: right here together every year, and we say route runners 126 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: and craftsman, like, let's hey, you want to flirt with 127 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: the speed guys? You flirt with the speed guys, you 128 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: marry the route runners, like those are the guys that 129 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: you want to commit to, And I'm like, man, are 130 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: we am I kind of abandoning that in this case 131 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: because when you watch him side by side, DeVonta Smith 132 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: is a better route runner absolutely Jalen Waddle. And so 133 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: that's that. Those are the things like that's a that's 134 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: a debate that's taking place in the room, and it's 135 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: sure as heck taking place in my head. I can 136 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: promise you that, Yeah, it's really difficult. It's really challenging 137 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: because not only with Jayalen Waddle. Yeah, okay, so the 138 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: Jail and Waddle column. You have speed and explosiveness, exceptional 139 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: with the ball in the hands. When he gets the 140 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: ball his hand, the magic happens. But he has an 141 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: angle injury and we may not get a speed on him. 142 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: We may not even see what he looks like because 143 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: he wasn't right the last time we saw him play 144 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: in the National Championship game. I mean, we we like 145 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: to think that he's not going to have any complications, 146 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: but you kind of want to get confirmation, like, Okay, 147 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: the old Jalen Waddle is back Devonte Smith is everything 148 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: that you talk about you talk to people around there. 149 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: He shakes it up like a sponge. He gets it. 150 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: He puts time in to master the craft and those 151 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: things I firmly believe. I don't really have a sense 152 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: that he is going to run. I think that is 153 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: the one thing. I think he might be a little 154 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: slower time speed wise, then people anticipate. And so if 155 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: you have a slow time combined with whatever people think 156 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: of the weight, it could really deem him in the room. 157 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: And and so it comes down to who do you 158 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: trust and what do you put your trust in in 159 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: terms of who do you trust is going to show 160 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: up and be as close to the player that we 161 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: saw at Alabama. And I believe, man, a lot of 162 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: it comes down to your play caller and what you're 163 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: going to do creatively to help both guys be at 164 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: their best. So for DeVante Smith, the way Sark moved 165 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: him around and used him and all the things that 166 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: we worry about, like, hey, he's gonna have to time 167 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: he gets pressed, Well cool, I'm not gonna let him 168 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: get pressed. I'm gonna keep him on the move so 169 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to face that stuff. Jalen Waddle. I'm 170 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna keep him on the move on routes. I'm not 171 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna ask him to stop and start. I'm gonna run 172 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: crosses and deep overs and post and post corners, things 173 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: where he doesn't have to stop and regenerate his speed 174 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: and so I don't need to worry about him being that. 175 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: So there beauties in the eye of the beholder. And 176 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: depending on the road that you envisioned for each guy 177 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: will determine how you rank those guys on your board. Yeah, 178 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: it's a it's a really interesting discussion, and I think 179 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: I've got a little while. I think I have a 180 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: couple of weeks to a night need to have my 181 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: next uh top fifty updates, so we get a chance 182 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: to see what we learned from from now to then. 183 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: A couple of other things that to me, I think 184 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: are really good debates, which people are all over the map. 185 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: Let me give you a quick example. It's the number 186 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: one edge rushers. To me, is is a legit debate, 187 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: which is I don't know about you, Buck, when you 188 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: talk to guys this year, like you mentioned it all 189 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: over the map like a Zizo Gillari. There are teams 190 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: that believe a zzo Glari is the best edge rusher 191 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. There are teams that would not take 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: a Zizolari in the first two rounds. They think he's 193 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: a third round pick. Like that. That is indicative of 194 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: kind of where everything is with these edge rushers. For me, 195 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I still I I have it Rousseau is my top guy, 196 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: and I have Quitty Pays my second guy, with Jalen 197 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: Phillips right behind him. But I I go back and forth. 198 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see Russeau move around. Haven't seen him 199 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: in over four hundred days. So to me, I want 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: to see if if he moves around well and kind 201 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: of checks that box through the workout, I'll keep him 202 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: as my number one guy. But I know Quity Pay 203 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: is gonna he's a freak, and I know I did 204 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: not like the way he was used in Michigan. So 205 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: to me, he's got he's in his sights, like if 206 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: they're rounding the turn coming towards the finish line, like 207 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: Quity Pay can see Rousseau. Now if we're so easy 208 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: up a little bit, quite Pay could go buy him 209 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: for me. But that that to me, so so the 210 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: debate with all three guys, there's there's so many things 211 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: that you wonder about Rosso the fifteen and a half 212 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: sacks that year, like it was phenomenal. He flashes, he 213 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: popped everything. But then you wonder, okay, am I gonna 214 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: get this consistently because you know, look, he let's be honest. 215 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: In his background, he's a wide receiver safety type, like 216 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: does he really love the contact? Can he get down 217 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: in and and and grind if people put their hands 218 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: on him? And those things? Um quity pay is explosive, 219 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: He is dynamic. Um I can just envision being in 220 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: the draft room here in the D line coach say, yes, 221 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: that's what I want. I want first step, quickness, I 222 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: want burst, I want activity and those things. Not as 223 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: much achievement in terms of sack production or whatever. And 224 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: so then it makes you look at Okay, how is 225 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: he using how would we utilize him? They tried to 226 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: move them around and do a lot of que stuff. 227 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: They never let him settle in. He got a bunch 228 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: of minors, but he never walked away with a major, 229 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, like like one of those things. So he 230 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: want to community college rather going to afford year school 231 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: to come away, but he got his associates, And then 232 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips to me, I think I leaned towards him 233 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: because I'm not saying he's the same player. But we've 234 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: seen these technicians at the position have success, the nick 235 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: boasts of the world, the other guys that came to 236 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: the lead that were really good with their hands, they 237 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: found the way to do it. So he's excellent with 238 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: his hands, but he's not as dynamic as the other 239 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: two guys. So what do you do with that? Do 240 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: you lean towards the skill player or the athleticism and 241 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: saying we can teach and refine the skills. And then 242 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: when I think of Jason o way like dynamic player, 243 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: but the fish never get into the boat. He's fishing 244 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: all day. But so what do you do it? And 245 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: then the least owes you're all right, who I would 246 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: say is the best at the one move that he 247 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: that he has. But man, you gotta give me something else, 248 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: right to let you have to get you have to 249 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: have something else besides to speed Russian the swipe to 250 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: turn the corner. Now when he does it, he wears 251 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: people out, but is he going to wear all pro 252 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: caliber tackles out with that? One move. It's it's a 253 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: really good debate, man. One of the UM one of 254 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: the bigger discrepancies of the position that I can ever 255 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: remember in a draft where people are just all over 256 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: the map. Okay, uh, the next one. Give you two 257 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: more the top three running backs, and I will say this, 258 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: this is what's universal about these guys, UM, and I 259 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: think we feel the same way. UM. Correct me if 260 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. We really like the top three guys a lot. 261 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: I think they're all really good players. Everybody I talked 262 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: to I've probably talked to six or seven gms in 263 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: the last two weeks about just different things in the 264 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: running back stuff. Everybody says the same thing. I'd be 265 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: happy with any of the three. We we love all 266 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: three guys. I might like this guy a little bit better. 267 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: Or one GM was like man, I would one day 268 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: I wake up and and I like Harris and NAG. 269 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: The next day it's it's E T N Like they 270 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: all can do really good things. But one of my 271 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: favorite nuggets was about your guy in North Carolina was 272 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: about Javonte Williams Uh that they were a team. Was 273 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: talking to him because he's an I posted one clip 274 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: a while ago he's an animal and past protection. Like 275 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: he is he is in high school, he's out to 276 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: hurt people. You got me right to it. So during 277 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: the zooms when teams were talking to him about his mindset, 278 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: and he was like, look, I didn't play running back 279 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: to my senior high school, said I'm I've been a 280 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: linebacker my whole life. So that's that's the mentality that 281 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: I carry. And I'm like the son of a gun. 282 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: That is how he plays. He plays running back like 283 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: a linebacker. Yeah, like not only that, DJ, we always 284 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: talked about it, like I forgot the acronym that you 285 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: guys used in Baltimore. But smartest is part of the 286 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: STI speed up his instincts, So he has that, you know. 287 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: So the other thing is he's Validateturian. So he's talking 288 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: about a super smart, super cerebral guy who also has 289 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: that dog mentality, that physicality that shows up and for 290 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: section and I believe because he played with Michael Carter, 291 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: his best football is ahead of him because they didn't 292 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: overuse him. So you're talking about a guy who might 293 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: be able to really carry the load. And we talked 294 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: about the load in today's game is maybe eighteen to 295 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: twenty two touches whatever combination of runs and receptions. That is, like, 296 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about, being able to carry the 297 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: load he has that his ability to catch the ball 298 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: off the backfield has not fully been um exploited. They 299 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: can maximize that. He's a very talented player. But then 300 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: when I look at Naja Harris and Travis n t 301 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: n there exceptional in their own right. Uh Naja Harris 302 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,599 Speaker 1: being a big big back. Um, I think the comparisons 303 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: to Matt Forte are apt because you just don't see 304 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: guys that big who are so easy in their movements 305 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: in the passing game. Like He's different because he's a 306 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: big guy that can run routes. I mean, the last 307 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: big guy that we saw do that. We can talk 308 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: about Forte, but Levy and Bell could go outside and 309 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: legitimately run routes like a wide receiver. So that is 310 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: fascinating because you're like, man, I get a little bit 311 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: of both. I get the bangability inside, I get the 312 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: past gutsing ability outside. I want that. Then I think 313 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: about Travis et En and certain schemes because I have 314 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: a vision of him playing in the jet scheme, which 315 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: would be a version of the night and I could 316 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: see him hitting his head on the goal post down 317 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: after down, like putting his foot in the ground on 318 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: the outside zone and blasting through a crease. And so 319 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: you're like, man, if you get him in the right thing, 320 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: he could be valued differently. So all three guys deserve 321 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: the first round grade. But now it's musical chairs. Where 322 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: do they fit? Who wants them? You have a handful 323 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,239 Speaker 1: of teams and that need running backs. You have the Dolphins, 324 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: you have the Jets, you have the Pittsburgh Stealers who 325 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: could take one in the first round. Even the Buffalo 326 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Bills could lean on a running back. So where do 327 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: you put those guys? How do you match that up? 328 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: I want to use a phrase because I think this 329 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: is really one of the more important things in scouting, 330 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: and I think it really could be true of any sport, 331 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: and honestly, it's it's really true of any profession. And 332 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: that is the good teams Buck They used this phrase, 333 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: I have a vision for this player. You just mentioned it, 334 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: like Travis c t n Okay, we're the Jets, or 335 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: we're we're a team that's running the outside zone scheme. Man, 336 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I have a vision for how we're going to use him, 337 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: what he's going to do, and how he's going to 338 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: be successful. Jeremiah Whosu Kormoa is. You know, some teams 339 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: have him as a strong safety, some teams have him 340 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: as a will linebacker. Some teams just you know, factor 341 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: him into what they're doing with all their sub stuff. 342 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a nickelback or whatever. Um. It's important 343 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: with these guys that you say, Okay, we're not gonna 344 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: it's not draft him and figure it out. That ain't 345 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: what we're doing here. It is we have a vision 346 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: for him. We're going to use him this way, and 347 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: he's going to be successful doing this because that's how 348 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: he fits with us. The last thing, in my opinion, 349 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: you want to do is say we're just gonna get 350 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: him on the boat. Will figure it out when he 351 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: gets here. That important. No, I think that's I think 352 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: that's a lazy way. And I think what we've done 353 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: and we've seen teams who are struggle with that. You know, 354 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: let's just take two players from last year's draft, Isaiah 355 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Simmons and Jeremy chen Jeremy Chen Is drafted later, but 356 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: the Panthers had a clear plan for how they were 357 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: going to utilize him. They utilized him, they maximize him, 358 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: and he played at a defensive a defensive Rookie of 359 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: the Year level Isaiah Simmons. The plan wasn't necessarily as 360 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: clear or as defined, and because of that, we needn't 361 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: necessarily see the same player that we saw at Clemson 362 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: thrive with the Cardinals. And so when we talk about 363 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: fit in scheme, we can call it that, we can 364 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: call it the plan for the player, whatever that is. 365 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: And I think we've done these things, whether on TV 366 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: or on the podcast we talked about you better make 367 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: sure when you get the Christmas tory that you have 368 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: instructions how the best utilize it. And so with some 369 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: of these players you have a you need to have 370 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: a clear vision for this is how we're going to 371 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: play him, and the coaches need to not only be saying, oh, 372 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: you coach, I need to have a very detailed plan 373 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: for when he walks in the building day one, through 374 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: mini camps through training camp, here's how we wanted to progress. 375 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: So when he gets into the season, this is how 376 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: we're going to play him, and make sure that we 377 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: use them. Yep. And I think the Cardinals. As they 378 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: got towards the end of the year, they started to 379 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of figure it out with him and you start 380 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: to see him do some good things. But I still 381 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: think the best way to go is to say, man, well, okay, 382 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: we know when you come in here, we're gonna put 383 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: you here and that's what you're gonna do and you're 384 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: gonna be successful, and we like that fit. I think 385 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: that's huge, last one and we can just move on 386 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: with this. We don't even dig into it. Um. But 387 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: for me with the top three Lineman, I have it 388 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: with uh, with Slater, with Sewell and Vera Tucker. To me, 389 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: those guys are they're away from everybody else. There's a 390 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: gap after those guys for me. But the next three, 391 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: like with Mayfield, Derrisson and Jenkins, that to me is 392 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: tb D. Like I'm still trying to get comfortable with 393 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: the order of those three guys. Yeah, And I think 394 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: that's what we're doing right now. It is Okay, let's 395 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: get everybody in the neighborhood. So now we're in the neighborhood, 396 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: we're in the range. Because I think Elijah very Chuck, 397 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: I know you talked about that. I don't think he 398 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: has talked about enough. He's going on to ille very 399 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: confident about that. In that conversation with those other guys. 400 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: It's kind of like suel in slate or whatever order 401 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 1: and then very chuckle with No. Those three guys need 402 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: to be in the same conversation because they all the 403 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: blue chip guys. The next three that you're talking about, Mayfield, Jenkins, 404 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: and Derenshaw. You're right, it is all about flavors of 405 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: ice cream. What kind of ice cream do you want? 406 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: How do you envision them playing? They all bring different 407 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: things to the table, but all of them, I would 408 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: say our first round talents, and there's going to be 409 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: a run on offensive tackles. I believe in the twenties 410 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: where you're gonna see six guys go in the first round. 411 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident that I think we'll see six guys 412 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: go because I think the position that will suffer at 413 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: the hands of the offensive tackles will either be the 414 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: wide receivers or maybe even the dbs. I think the 415 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: offensive tackles because there's a gap because after we get 416 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: past those three, I think there's another gap. Yeah, the 417 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: other name I'll throw out there, and I'm gonna go 418 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: back and watch a little bit more on him back 419 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Burg from Notre Dame. Man, there are people around the 420 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: league love this dude, like they are high on him 421 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: to the point where I wouldn't be shocked if he 422 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: went in the first round. I have him in the 423 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: forties on my list. I'm gonna go back and watch 424 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: him again, because I don't know where you are buck 425 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: for me when you get when you get the background 426 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: information on offensive lineman, and there's just like there's like 427 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: a uh, there's a template that exists. And when you 428 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: start hearing things and you start going, Okay, smart, tough, 429 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: really good leader. He kind of manages that room. He's 430 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: you know. And then you add in Notre Dame and 431 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: he started a zillion games. You're kind of like, man, 432 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: these guys don't fail. These guys that check all those 433 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: boxes off, they don't fail. And they might not be sexy. 434 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: You might not say he's a dynamic athlete. They played 435 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: for ten, twelve, fifteen years. Okay, you and I have 436 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: both baseball fans. We talked about it all the time. 437 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: You win a lot of games hitting singles and doubles, 438 00:19:58,119 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: you don't you don't have to always knock it out 439 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: the for how are you gonna do? Is slap at 440 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: the right field, round round the corner and land on 441 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: the second base. With Eikenberg, you talked about it. He's smart, 442 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: he's tough. He's obviously shown leadership skills. Within that room, 443 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: we understand the blueprint and the factory that Notre Dame 444 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: is and has been when it comes to producing offensive lineman. 445 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: We can say what we want to say. There are 446 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: guys go into the league and they play and so 447 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: they understand how to play it. He's big, he's physical, 448 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: he can move people off the ball. There's a lot 449 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: to like. If you're in the twenties and you're stuck 450 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: and you're debating over a I kind of like this guy. 451 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: I kind of like that where you know what, I 452 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: can take the tackle and I feel good. I can 453 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: sleep comfortably because I know I have a guy that's 454 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: going to be an eight to teen year player and 455 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: we're going to be solid when we put him out there. 456 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: And because the value right tackle left tackle is shrinking 457 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: where you need to have two of them, I think 458 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: it makes it. I think it makes it easy. I 459 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: do believe we talked about it six he's at that 460 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: seventh border line where if he goes particularly think about 461 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: Kansas City, the issues that they had in the Super Bowl, 462 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: you think Andy Reid is going, yeah, no, so their conversation, 463 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have that conversation. So now 464 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: I think that's the good one. I think that's one 465 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: day we have to talk about. And that's why as 466 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: much as and we'll do mock drafts like later this week, 467 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: as much as the mock draft is fund like, oh 468 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: we can put this receiver, hint, this guy, that guy, 469 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when we're really drafting 470 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: real ball, you always typically go biggs over littles because 471 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: the bigs are harder to find. We've proven, it's been 472 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: proven we can find the little guys various stages of 473 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: the draft, but the big guys hard to find, premier 474 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: starters later in the draft. So that's why you have 475 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: to go with the biggs. And if I was if 476 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: I was Liam Eichenberg, I might draft a thank you 477 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: note and and mail it to Isaiah Wilson and say 478 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: thank you, because everything that Eikenberg is is the opposite 479 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: of what you had there with Isaiah Wilson. Isaiah Wilson 480 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: coming out was immature. Isaiah Wilson was wrong. He was 481 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: in the first of all, he wouldn't have a first 482 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: round player. But because like in the sixties on my list. Okay, 483 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: so here here's the other thing, right, Like, let's go 484 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: back and we won't take shots because we both have 485 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: friends in the Titans organization whatever, so we won't do it. 486 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: But what we'll do is we'll look at Isaiah Wilson's 487 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: failures and see if we can pull out a scouting 488 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: lesson from that. The one thing that we've talked about, 489 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: and we've heard coaches coming here and talk about it, 490 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: we've heard scouts talk about it. Number One, the player 491 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 1: of the prospect that you're looking at, you better determine 492 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: if he loves it, okay, because if he loves it, 493 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: that would give him his chance. That woul give him 494 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: a chance to be successful, because throughout the failures and 495 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: those things, you know that he's committed to seeing if 496 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: he can just be the best player that he can be. 497 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: So he's gonna work hard, he's gonna come early, he's 498 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: gonna do all the things that you have to do 499 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: to give yourself a chance. If you have a player 500 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't love it, and is immature. Man, you're talking 501 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: about wrong, wrong, off the bat Isaiah Wilson, all the 502 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: things that we had heard with him coming out of Georgia, immature. 503 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Don't really know if he loves it, likes what it brings, 504 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: but doesn't necessarily love the stuff within. He goes to Tennessee, 505 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: has a couple of missteps where he's reportedly at parties 506 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: out of place. COVID protocols just can't do jumping out 507 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: of buildings, jumping up buildings to avoid being called. So 508 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: so you're already like that and then you're like, okay, 509 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: he gets a second shot at it, goes to Miami 510 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: and it's late to the physical hours, late, blows off 511 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: workouts reportedly, and then when they offer him and he's like, no, 512 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I got it. He doesn't love it. And so if 513 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: I am going down DJ, I will go down with 514 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: a lesser player who is more committed than a more 515 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: talented player. That is sometimes, um, it's just being a 516 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: pro though, man like, and I've been around and you 517 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: have to You've been around guys who aren't Maybe they 518 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: don't necessarily love it, but they treat it as a job. 519 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be I'm gonna get my work in. 520 00:23:58,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what I need to do. Now, some 521 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: these guys they leave the facility, they don't they don't 522 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: watch football, they don't care about football, but they're professionals. 523 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: They're where they're supposed to be and they work hard. 524 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: And that to me, at the offensive line position is 525 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: more important than just about any other one because that room. 526 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's an accountability in that room, and there's 527 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: expectation of professionalism in that room, and when you fall 528 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: short of that, that's why we're saying we'll sacrifice a 529 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: little ability, maybe a little upside, to get a little 530 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: bit more of a pro And I've got a chance. Again, 531 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: it's a double. It might not be a home run, 532 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: but I'll take doubles, take doubles all day. And so 533 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no difference and those who can't do 534 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: it and those who won't do it. At least a 535 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: guy who can't do it, I'm I'm gonna go to 536 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: war with him if he's going to give me everything 537 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: that he has, because I can work around some of 538 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: his deficiencies. The guys that won't do it, there's no 539 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: changing that they are where they are and I think 540 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: that's the lesson to be learned from Zaiah Wilson and 541 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: some of the other guys that are floundered and flopped. 542 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get some quarterback team fits or 543 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: an article on this. I'm gonna rip these off. We 544 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: want to spend a ton of time here, But just 545 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: tell me what stands out to you. Um, I'll rip 546 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: through him here. Trevor Lawrence still to the Jags, although man, 547 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: they've been doing a lot of homework on Zach Wilson. 548 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a hundred percent lock that maybe 549 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: everybody else does. I'd say nine. Maybe there's a five 550 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: percent chance Zack Wilson could cross him pass him before 551 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: the finish line. But I'd still say Trevor Lawrence Jacks 552 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson for the reasons we've always mentioned on here 553 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: makes the most sense for the Jets. Um trade Lance, Um, 554 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: I have falcons at four make the most sense, But 555 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: I think that three spot could legitimately be a good 556 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 1: trade opportunity for someone to vault up there to go 557 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: get Tray Lance. I had a chance to have to 558 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: meet with him on the weekend he was in town. 559 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: He was working out with John Beck, so had an 560 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: opportunity to go spend some time with Trey Lance. He's impressive. 561 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, we've we've visited with him on the show. 562 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: I talked to him on the phone before. But get 563 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 1: a chance to sit down there with him and and 564 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,959 Speaker 1: see him face to face. He's going if he had 565 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: and he's already had, somebody's gonna knock these meetings out 566 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: of the park. Because so when he's so highly intelligent 567 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: and understands it for a twenty year old kid who 568 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: maybe is not all there yet as a player yet, man, 569 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: it's hard not to buy the kid. I think you 570 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: have to buy the kid here. Here's also what uh 571 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: I would like people to do when it comes to 572 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: the trade lands evaluation. Wipe away what happened with Carson 573 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: Wentz this year and go all the way back to 574 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: how we celebrated Carson Wentz because of the things that 575 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: the offense and North Dakota State asked a quarterback to do. 576 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: One of the reasons it was easy to fall in 577 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: love with Carson Wentz is not only the talent that 578 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: he displayed, but when we watched the tape, North Dakota 579 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: State asked the quarterback to do things that we asked 580 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: quarterbacks to do on Sundays, multiple checks, Can you have 581 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: the pass protection, Can you go from under center and shotgun? 582 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: Can you do a variety of things so that your 583 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: tool belt is is full. When I look at Trade Lance, 584 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: I believe his tool belt is full with a bunch 585 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: of different skills, not only physically but mentally. And I 586 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: believe he was severely impact by playing that one game. 587 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: It would have been better for him not to play 588 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: that game, so we would have the memory of twenty 589 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: nineteen where he dazzled and dominated. Because if you go 590 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: back and look at twenty nineteen, look, g J. We 591 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: had conversations here like, hey, I know we're talking about 592 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: two man race. I watched three games. I watched three 593 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: games on each guy, and I even was a disclaimer. 594 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I said, look, these are three game evaluations. It's enough. 595 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: But off of three games, Trey Lance was the most 596 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: impressive of all the guys to me last year off 597 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: three games, right, And so those evaluators that dig deep 598 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: and look at that and say, hey, what's road at 599 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: Central Arkansas game? And now I really would throw it 600 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: out because now that we've seen North Dakota State without him, 601 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 1: we understand maybe what he was playing with in the 602 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: fault was not necessarily up to the Bison standard. This 603 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: is a very talented player, I mean a very talented 604 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: player who checks off boxes in terms of athleticism size wise, 605 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: I Q, what's not to like? We can talk about 606 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: the flaws in the game, but guess what his superpower, 607 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: his letticism enables him to make up for some of 608 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: this stuff while he's learning on the go, and so 609 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: trade lance justin Fields, I think you can say similar 610 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: things about both of them. The athletics superpower is going 611 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: to give them a chance to be successful before their 612 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: game is fully developed and ready for them to be 613 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: super successful. As FROs, I'm with you again. I the 614 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: more I looked at these top four guys, but I 615 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: think all four these guys, assuming they get into good situation, 616 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: I think all for these guys gonna be really good. Um, 617 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: justin Fields Patriots, I had that with a move up scenario. 618 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: Mac Jones was the Panthers, which I don't know if 619 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: it's if it's there or if they try and get back, 620 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, trade back to me. It's a little rich 621 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: to take him where they are but maybe try and 622 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: situate back see what happens with Sam Donald. I talked 623 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: about the veterans here as well on a sect. But 624 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: Davis Mills to the Vikings like third round to me, 625 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: is a great opportunity for him to come in. You 626 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: give you have Kirk Cousins, just a little bit of 627 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: a push um and if and if you might end 628 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: up having your guy to replace him down the road. Uh, 629 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: Kellen Mond to the Broncos again, I think they're gonna 630 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: bring in somebody to compete with Drew Lock. And then 631 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I had Donald going to the Niners, you know, as 632 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: the veteran move there to the Niners. But those are 633 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback teams Jags, Jets, Falcons, Patriots, Panthers, Vikings, you know, 634 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: at some point in time, Broncos, forty Niners. I expect 635 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: those teams to add to that room here as we 636 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: come through the draft or or through a trade, you know. 637 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: And I think that it also would put a wild 638 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: card team. I would say, be on the lookout for 639 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: the Sattle Seahawks doing something like just just be on 640 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: the lookout because you've heard all this smoke or whatever. 641 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: Like I think if they found the right quarterback on 642 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: Day two that was kind of the blinking light stand 643 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: him in the face. I think it would make sense 644 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: um in that scenario. I'm thinking, like Kellen Man, just 645 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: because of the atheticism and what they want to do 646 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: in terms of bringing in that rams offensive system that 647 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: makes it very easy for the quarterback. Just be aware. 648 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: I could see a scenario where you're talking like somewhere 649 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: in day two they find a quarterback, not saying that 650 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: he's Russell Wilson, but someone does that has comparable traits 651 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: that they said, you know, let's take a young quarterback, 652 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: let's see if we can develop them and and just 653 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: give ourselves options. In two they have three picks, three picks, 654 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: but we can't see them. You know, they trade back, 655 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: they trade back, and they end around. But but I'm 656 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: I just I'm with you. I think if they could 657 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get in range to get 658 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: one of these top quarterbacks, I think they would do 659 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: it in a heartbeat. I really do. I think for 660 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: I think for any of those top four guys, they 661 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: would do it, and they would move on from Russell. Yeah, 662 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: because I think it's I think that the record is 663 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: just growing. There's a lot of scratches on the record. 664 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: I think they're tried and hearing the scratches. Yeah, I 665 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: still want to see what that conversation is like with 666 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: the offensive line when Russell Wilson comes back for the 667 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: first minute. It's not it's not gonna be good. And 668 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: I know, like people, Hey, guys, just kidding. I know 669 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I said that I needed a better offensive line play. 670 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: You guys weren't any good. But um, hey, good to 671 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: see you. How is how's your off season? How does 672 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: that conversation go? Yeah, the best thing that can happen 673 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: for them is to not have mini camps or everything 674 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: is a virtual off season, so they can wait and 675 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: kind of put some distance between those comments and the meeting. 676 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I know you were I know you were playing hurt. 677 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: I know you were playing hurt. I know I I 678 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: ran around for ten seconds on a couple of these sects. 679 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: But you know, just just be better, you know, just 680 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: get better, guys. Oh my gosh. Yeah, interesting an interesting 681 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: scenario for sure. All Right, Well, it's been a fun 682 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: one today. I appreciate you guys hanging with us today. 683 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: I hope you've enjoyed it. We've got another one coming 684 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: up here this week. Where we're gonna dig into Buckey's 685 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: latest mocked draft, so be on lookout for that. Um. 686 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: Also a reminder the digital show that streams this week 687 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: two pm Eastern UH and also airs on NFL Network 688 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: at three pm Eastern. You check that out on Thursday Saturday. 689 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: It will beyond at seven am Eastern, so get yourself 690 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: up early if you miss sit on Thursday. We have 691 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: Mock Draft Live that's gonna kick off Tuesday, that is 692 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: UH nine pm Eastern, So be on the lookout for 693 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Mock Draft Live as well. That is your mock draft 694 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: right buck for Mock Draft Live for this to this 695 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: initial launch here, so looking forward to that, so be 696 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: on the lookout for it. But that's gonna do it 697 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: for us today. Thank you guys for hanging with us. 698 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time right here on Move the 699 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: Sticks presented by Castro Edge. Thanks for downloading Move the 700 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 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