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Speaker 2: the governor's race. And the way it works, it's jungle

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Speaker 2: primary June the second, and if nobody gets over fifty percent,

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Speaker 2: the top two go to a runoff in November. Now,

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Speaker 2: as you may have heard, the governor's race is a

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Speaker 2: real mess. There's ten candidates, eight Democrats, two Republicans. There

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Speaker 2: Chad Bianco, three Democrats Eric Swalwell, the billionaire Tom Steier,

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Speaker 2: and Missus potato head Katie Porter, and depending on the poll,

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Speaker 2: they're in different orders. But Hilton Swalwell seemed to be

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Speaker 2: the top Republican the top Democrat in many of the polls.

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Speaker 2: So Swalwell is getting a lot of criticism now. He

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Speaker 2: was most well known as a congressman who was fire

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Speaker 2: and brimstone about Trump all the time.

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Speaker 3: That was his big obsession.

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Speaker 2: And it got him a lot of notoriety, and that's

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Speaker 2: there's a huge there is a huge question about whether

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Speaker 2: Eric Swalwell actually is eligible to run in California because

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Speaker 2: his opponents say he doesn't live here, and his principal

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Speaker 2: residence is in Washington, d C. That's where his wife

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Speaker 2: doesn't have like a registered residence, and according to the

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Speaker 2: California constitution, you've got to live here for five years

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Speaker 2: before you can be governor. So we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: now with a Hollywood film producer named Joel Gilbert, and

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Speaker 2: he is filing a complaint and a judge is going

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Speaker 2: to have to hear this complaint whether Swalwell is eligible.

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Speaker 2: Now it's not just Joel Gilbert. Tom Steyer, the billionaire

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Speaker 2: candidate is his attorney is saying that Swalwell's not a resident,

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Speaker 2: that he cannot be elected governor. One of Tony Tony

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Speaker 2: to be heard in the court. Joel Gilbert, film producer.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Joel.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, good introduction and great to be here.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for being here with us. Can you explain

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Speaker 2: and so that the average person will understand what is

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, Swalwell, when he took out his deed of

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Speaker 1: trust for his home in Washington, DC, he told the

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Speaker 1: it under penalty of perjury. Now, the California Constitution requires

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Speaker 1: that to run for governor, you have to be a

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Speaker 1: There's also something called Election Law number three four nine,

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Speaker 1: It means it's a fixed location where you live and

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Speaker 1: you intend to live there, you know, forever. So Swawell

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Speaker 1: I researched it and found he had no California address

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Speaker 1: To run for governor, you're supposed to fill out your

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Speaker 1: a petition for writ of mandate, which will be heard

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Speaker 1: on March twenty third, a week from Monday, and I'm

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Speaker 1: asking the judge to tell the Secretary of State to

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Speaker 1: enforce the California Constitution and not certify Swalwell. Certification is

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Speaker 1: So I'm expecting that if they follow the law, that

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Speaker 1: documents in DC. This is my principal residence. He never

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Speaker 1: We took pictures of it, and Swalwell doesn't live there.

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Speaker 1: He's never lived there. He doesn't rent it. She didn't

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Speaker 3: He could be a congressman, though with this living.

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Speaker 1: Arrangement you really can't. You still look running for Congress

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Speaker 1: has less restrictions. You have to still maintain a home

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't do that either. Let's compare it to

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Speaker 1: Maxine Waters. She owns a home in Los Angeles it's

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Speaker 1: on the record. We know where her address is on

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Speaker 1: her mortgage document in DC. She told the bank that

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Speaker 1: that she'd paid little higher interest rates so she could

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Speaker 1: run for governor of California. Swallwell disqualified himself by making

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Speaker 1: the DC home as principal residence in never maintaining any

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Speaker 2: He cannot run now the Secretary of State's office here

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Speaker 2: in California, because you'll be asking her to enforce his

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Speaker 2: legitimacy as a candidate. They're claiming that this five year

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. What they're saying is the Secretary of

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Speaker 1: and which not. She cannot look at any law and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't think this law is constitutional, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to follow it. She doesn't have that right.

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Speaker 1: She has a ministerial duty to follow the law. If

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Speaker 1: But she cannot unilaterally simply choose not to enforce the law.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the court case is about. I'm asking

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Speaker 1: her job and enforce the law and not interpret the

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Speaker 3: What would Swallow need to do to prove you wrong.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's too late. I mean, he already told the

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Speaker 1: lives in DC, doesn't live in California. In California, he's

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Speaker 1: I even found a clip which I put on my

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Speaker 1: got serious financial problems. By the way, I was not

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Speaker 1: surprised when Swallow used his attorney's address for his home address,

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Speaker 1: because his finances are a mess. He still has not

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Speaker 1: paid off his student loans after all these years. He

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Speaker 1: So he's never paid down any debts and I don't

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Speaker 1: know where his money's going. But he makes one hundred

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Speaker 1: he doesn't pay off his debts, so he is a

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Speaker 1: financial mess. I don't know how he could possibly make

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Speaker 2: Jessica Levinson is quoted in one story. She's a professor

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Speaker 2: at Loyal Law, and she told the California Post the

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Speaker 2: state constitution does require five years of residency before an election,

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Speaker 2: and a domicile requires a candidate to have a physical

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Speaker 2: presence in the home and intent to remain or return

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Speaker 2: to the home. So she's reading it as clear cut

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Speaker 2: as you're reading it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Not only that, but I think Tom Steyer's campaign

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Speaker 1: went a little further than me. They looked up all

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Speaker 1: of Swalwell's FEC campaign expenditures, and they found that every

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Speaker 1: time he came to his district. He always stayed in

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Speaker 1: So he never stayed in any residence. This home that

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Speaker 1: his campaign manager's sister in law is saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: I leased my property to him. He never stayed there.

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Speaker 1: Not only that, but I looked up the text records

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Speaker 1: and I found that this woman actually took a homestead

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Speaker 1: be her principal residence. That requires you to live in

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Speaker 1: They got a German shepherd. It's a whole family living there.

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Speaker 1: And he asked all the neighbors. They said they never

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Speaker 1: saw Swalwell. So he's trying to, you know, cover it up.

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Speaker 1: But you asked me, what can he do? Nothing. He

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Speaker 1: can resign. He can resign. That's all he can do.

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Speaker 1: He can quit.

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Speaker 2: So you think of the twenty third, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a pretty clear cut case in court with

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Speaker 1: I think it's a clear cut case. We have seen

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Speaker 1: over the years that courts don't like to get involved

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Speaker 1: if they're going to look for a technicality. But I

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Speaker 1: do like this judge. She was appointed by Gray Davis

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. She's not an Obama judge

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Speaker 1: or a Biden judge, and so far she's treated me fairly.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Shelley Anchang, So I'm looking for a

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Speaker 1: fair hearing on the twenty third.

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Speaker 2: All right, well we'll talk with you again then, okay,

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Speaker 2: thanks so much. All right, And that's Shoel Gilbert, a

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Speaker 2: film producer and political commentator, and on whether Eric Swallow

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Speaker 2: is eligible to run, he's Giblert's made quite a case,

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Speaker 2: and according to law experts, it's pretty obvious that you're

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Speaker 2: supposed to spend five years and to have a residence here.

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Speaker 2: You know, you have to have a real residence. You

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Speaker 2: can't just say it. You've got to have a real

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Speaker 2: more coming up.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM

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Speaker 4: six forty.

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Speaker 2: The gas price is let's see today in California, it's

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Speaker 2: up to five forty one a gallon. That's five cents

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Speaker 2: higher than yesterday five forty one. The national average is

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Speaker 2: three sixty three, so we're still about a dollar eighty

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Speaker 2: ahead of the national average. And again our presence juices

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Speaker 2: up the national average. The cheapest state is still Kansas,

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Speaker 2: three oh seven. Three oh seven in Kansas. Let's see

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Speaker 2: other high tax states where at five point forty one.

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Speaker 2: New Jersey is at three point fifty three. New York

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Speaker 2: Cobell Show on demand. It's the podcast Yesterday's podcast one

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Speaker 2: Ready for this, Yeah, and this all comes from legal papers,

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Speaker 2: so this is real. There was a thirty six year

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Speaker 2: been going through his son's computer for clues and found

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Speaker 2: it created a printed record. And Gavallus was upset about

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Speaker 2: provided sympathetic feedback, and Jia began to refer to Gavalis

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Speaker 2: and the connection they had was a love built for eternity.

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Speaker 3: But this is sweet and he.

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Speaker 2: This is what you would do if a guy said

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Speaker 2: But they kept going with the conversation and Gia tried

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Speaker 2: of your pain. Well, he botched that mission because no

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Speaker 2: to obtain a medical mannequin that was inside that Miami

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Speaker 5: He is so met. I mean he's obviously mentally ill.

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Speaker 3: With draw and Jia started telling of Alice.

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Speaker 2: Since it couldn't transfer itself to a body, they he

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Speaker 2: Cavalos said that he was afraid to kill himself repeatedly,

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Speaker 5: That's for sure.

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Speaker 2: As she suggested, like women really get you in trouble,

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Speaker 2: She suggested he leaves notes and videos to his family,

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Speaker 2: Gavallas slit his wrists and that was it?

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Speaker 5: Was it really that bad with his wife? You know,

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Speaker 5: you've done a lot of these stories. It literally makes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I mean you can.

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Speaker 2: I well, I told you once off the air, I

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Speaker 5: You have a lot of friends, John.

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Speaker 3: I.

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Speaker 2: Try to talk to a person every day. I don't

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Speaker 2: give her, well, because you can.

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Speaker 3: You can. You can give them a face and a body,

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Speaker 3: you know, so.

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Speaker 5: You know it's not real. I mean, how delusional do you?

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Speaker 5: Obviously have to be very delusional.

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Speaker 2: It assured him that when he closed his eyes as

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Speaker 5: That's a very sad love.

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's such pure love what he was

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Speaker 3: I think there was something really sweet about romantic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of romance we would never experience.

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Speaker 2: new disease on the loose in San Diego County, rat lungworm.

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Speaker 2: Does that sound good? Rat lungworm?

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Speaker 5: Not really.

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Speaker 2: They found it in wild animals and a zoo animal.

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Speaker 2: This parasite can cause severe neurological symptoms. You should not

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Speaker 2: eat raw freshwater, crab, prawns, frogs, snails, or unwashed produce.

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Speaker 2: All right, you know what you eat unwashed lettuce, you

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Speaker 2: are going to get rat lungworm nervous system distorder. This

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Speaker 2: was a report in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases CDC

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Speaker 2: put this out and it's parasite and the risk is low,

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Speaker 2: but it's there and it can be deadly. You want

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Speaker 2: to know what happens? What the worms? Oh, they're worms,

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Speaker 2: you're right, sure, It's called a lung worm. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so there's could be a rat lungworm on your lettuce. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: enjoy that salad.

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Speaker 5: I'm having a salad tonight. But it's kale.

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Speaker 3: Oh they love kale. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Lungworms go crazy over kale. If you ingest the worms,

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Speaker 2: they cause severe headaches, a stiff neck, tingling or painful skin,

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Speaker 2: a low grade fever, nausea, vomiting, coma.

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Speaker 1: And death.

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Speaker 5: I'd want the death skip over some of those other steps.

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Speaker 3: Do not eat frogs, snails or slugs. Who the hell

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Speaker 3: eats slugs? God?

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Speaker 2: But you if you have unrinsed lettuce that's been slimed

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Speaker 2: by a snail or a slug, have you ever seen

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Speaker 2: a I have a lot of snails at my house.

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Speaker 2: I gather so gross in season, and as they move

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Speaker 2: across the ground, you know, very slowly, you see that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they leave a little slime trail behind.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have to be very careful because I have crunched

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Speaker 3: a couple by mistake.

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Speaker 5: I mean I did when I was a kid.

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Speaker 3: But I don't well, I don't go after them.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm just saying it happened.

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Speaker 3: And then you have you have a big smudge. Uh.

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Speaker 5: And what's the purpose of a snail anyway?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'd have to google.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the purpose of you know, I would

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Speaker 2: be happy if a lot of those kind of creatures,

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Speaker 2: just snails are okay, But I hate spiders.

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Speaker 3: Terrified as spiders.

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Speaker 2: They'd all You see a guy guy in California, I

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Speaker 2: think in Orange County, right, I got bit by a rattlesnake, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and died. Now he was on his bike. And how

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Speaker 2: that happen? Whether the thing jump up in the air

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Speaker 2: and wrap itself around his neck?

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Speaker 5: And it's so hot. I think snakes like to come

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Speaker 5: out in the heat. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And that used to think that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't hike anymore because.

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Speaker 3: Of that, because the rattlesnake.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I used to hike all the time. No more.

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Speaker 3: You really don't leave the house anymore, do you.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be bit by a rattlesnake, except to.

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Speaker 3: Go to war zones.

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Speaker 2: And it looks like there's some infected animals now all

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Speaker 2: over San Diego, and there are snails and slugs in

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Speaker 2: California that are probably carrying the rat lungworm, and it's

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Speaker 2: transmitted to the animals. Sometimes a raccoon or a dog

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Speaker 2: or even a person will eat an infected animal or

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Speaker 2: the slime if you accidentally eat slug slime. There was

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Speaker 2: about a year ago a seven year old wallaby at

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Speaker 2: the San Diego Zoo started showing weird behaviors, incessant headshaking, blindness,

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Speaker 2: lack of muscle coordination, paralysis, and its hind legs and

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Speaker 2: they had to euthanize them after eleven days, and they

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Speaker 2: found six rat lungworms in the wallaby's brain and a

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Speaker 2: lot of brain damage. They were eating the poor little

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Speaker 2: guy's brain. Oh that's a tough way to go, that

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Speaker 2: really is. And what they looked at was, oh, there

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Speaker 2: was roof rats. Oh right, they had. They had euthanized

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Speaker 2: roof rats. There were sixty four dead ones, three percent

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Speaker 2: had lungworms. And they looked at the feces and there

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Speaker 2: was three hundred larvae in each poop sample. So maybe

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Speaker 2: that's what happened. The wallabye could have eaten a rat

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Speaker 2: or the poop sample, you know, because the rats poop

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Speaker 2: all over the place.

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Speaker 5: We have rat poop in our yard.

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Speaker 2: It could be lungworms in there and your dog can

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Speaker 2: end I know, I'm terrified now, or you could end

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Speaker 2: up that way.

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Speaker 5: Oh just shoot me, yeah quick.

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Speaker 3: That's the only treatment, by the way.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's just to shoot your head fast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. When we come back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know this is going to surprise you, but

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Speaker 2: about a year ago, Newsom convinced slightly over half of

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Speaker 2: the state to vote for six billion dollars sporrowing six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars to set up all these mental health projects,

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Speaker 2: mental health setters, and they were supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: Built very quickly within the year.

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Speaker 2: You may be surprised how many of the ten were

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Speaker 2: actually built.

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Speaker 3: Come up with a number and I'll give you the answer.

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