WEBVTT - Aur Naurnia 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:04.840 I just want to make you really mad with my 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.440 Florence and the Machine impression. Do you want to hear it? No? Wait, 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.400 I need to find a tambourine somewhere. Do you have 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.959 like a bag of beans I can grab? Well, he 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:24.160 fucked me in the bedroom. You're just trying. I'm Lawrence 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:37.000 in the Machine. I loved and people. Today we are 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.160 talking about something that honestly has been a very long 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.600 time coming. Um and let me tell you, Lord of 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:49.199 the Rings was easily top five most formative piece of 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:53.040 culture to Rose and I's childhoods. Maybe more so important 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.480 to Roads today than it is to me today. However, 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.640 it is something that we have effectively schooled each other 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:02.440 on time and time, and it is something that you, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.000 the Virgins, have asked time and time again for us 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.399 to talk about. So for those reasons, today we are 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.760 talking about Lord of the Rings, the books, the movies, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:16.640 the cultural phenomenon, the whole extended universe. Because this is 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.039 like a Virgin the show where we give yesterday's pop 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:23.240 culture today's takes. I am Rose, Damn you your resident 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.319 full of a tuk, and I am Fran Toronto, your 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:31.720 local Galandriel and Uh in the words of a wise man, fly, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.880 how the hell are you so so good? So real, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.959 so real? As the Black Eyed Peas would say, both 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:49.560 real and so real. We have been truly having a 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:52.800 black Eyed Peas spring, and I think it's going to 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.320 roll over into a black Eyed Peas summer and for 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.600 sure fall in winter as well. Wait, can we discuss 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.800 this be has Like all of a sudden, I had 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.640 a few friends that started listening to it again around 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:07.320 the same time that I was revisiting Monkey Business, which, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:09.400 as I've said on the pod before, was one of 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.480 the first albums I ever purchased with my own money, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.040 along with Love Angel Music Baby. And then there was 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.680 that Black Eyed Peas SNL sketch, and I was like, 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.200 there zons happening. Yeah, I think they truly have an 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.520 unshakable grip on all our necks, and yeah, I love 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.720 that for them. Pump it is an untouchable bob like 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.520 as an opener to an album, like it's still like 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:36.480 holds all the way up, Like it doesn't even feel dated. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:42.520 It feels amazing, it feels current. It could be it's yesterday, today, tomorrow, 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.359 just for context, like we were like in Joshua Tree, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.040 like listening to this whole album and then the interlude 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.679 from My Humps played where did they go Real Surreal? 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.320 And we were like Stone were like, are they saying 0:02:55.680 --> 0:03:01.959 so real or are they saying surreal? And it is. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.400 It's a enigma. Also, there was a really great moment 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.480 at the end of our trip where you asked Justin 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:13.360 and I were hugging and just started spontaneously singing, no, lie, no, no, no, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:18.120 it's it's really it's really beautiful. Another standout from that 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.840 album was the bridge that I completely forgot about of 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:29.800 Pump It, where they go diamn, dim damn. I'm not 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.480 gonna start singing because then you'll start talking about singing. Wait, 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.680 speaking of singing, I did listen to the New Florence 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.040 and the Machine album in preparation for for today. Okay, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.680 I'm not I'm not excited to hear your take on 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.760 it because I feel like it's going to be negative. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.160 Are you saying maybe you're projecting because you also did 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.000 not like the album as much as you would have. No, 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.120 I do love it, but I know that you hate 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.320 me and want me to Is that the dynamic? I 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.840 So here's the thing I've already said before Florence was 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:06.440 like I'm an O G Florence stand Um, there was 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.680 really not a lot to latch onto with this album. 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.640 I fell I. I really liked Daffodil, I love um 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.880 Free is it Free? The one that's kind of like 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.240 Thumby and quick Free? Free was the last single she 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.080 released before the album came out. Yeah, Free is my 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.560 favorite song. But like when Florence arrived on the music scene, 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.840 she was a novelty and there was nothing that sounded 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:36.080 like her and it was just immediately ingenious. And now 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:41.160 I feel like she's made this album three times and 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:44.680 I wish that there was something more like the song 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:49.360 Free that would have changed her pace or made it 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:53.600 seem like more than sensual chamber music for people that 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.120 used to have tumbler you know what I mean. I 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:01.400 see merit in that critique. I'm going to love that. Um. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:07.600 I do think that Florence makes a very specific kind 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:12.120 of music. I am very dialed into it and always 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:16.120 love it. And I think there's some really beautiful songs 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.680 on this album, Like I really loved the singles she 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:23.720 put out. UM since the album came out, Dreamgirl Evil 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:25.840 is what I've been listening to a lot. I really 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.840 like Cassandra, I really like Girls Against God. But yeah, 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.640 I think her last few records, and especially the last one, 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:38.440 Highest Hope I, have been a lot quieter and more introspective, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.800 and like, I do think there are some bangers on 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.520 this album. But yes, it's it's a it's very different. 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.479 I love it. I love Florence. I love how committed 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:52.320 she is to her aesthetic, her sound, to making the 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.440 kind of music she makes. I will say, and like, 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.160 I don't think this is a good excuse when you're 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.440 talking about music, but seeing her live is such a 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.800 transcendent experience. And I did see her what she was 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.359 touring Highest Hope UM, and even with a record, and 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.000 that is probably my least favorite of her albums. But 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:19.600 even still, seeing the songs live, they just become completely transcendent, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:25.599 and she is such a captivating performer and I just 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.360 love her. I love the album. I will defend her 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.560 until the end of the yea UM. But I I 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.000 do agree that you know, there was a couple of 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.240 years ago, I think after ceremonials, she said that she 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:46.120 wanted to make like an electronic dance album, and that 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.960 never happened. I think the closest we ever got to 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.720 it was when she did that song sweet Nothing I love, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.480 which I which I love. I do think it might 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.440 be good for her at some point to do oh 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.040 like kind of one off experient, a mental album that 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.240 might sort of like just change things up for her 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:08.760 and probably will infuse her music going forward with kind 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.720 of different vibes. But all that to be said, I 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.840 really like Dance Fever. I would love to see her 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:20.680 tour this album because I think it would just hearing 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.560 the songs in that context would bring them even more 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.680 to life for me than they are now. And it's 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.600 an album that I certainly will spend a lot more 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.040 time with and have even since it came out. I've 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.080 been listening to it a lot um when I was 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:35.760 in New York this week. I was listening to a 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.600 lot when I was walking around Brooklyn, and it's just 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.720 like really beautiful. I love it, and I will kill 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.880 you for not liking. So here's the thing. It's not 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.800 that I'm even like criticizing her. I mean, okay, I 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.800 will say for an album called Dance Fever, there were 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.200 not a lot of dance songs. Okay, there are. It's 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.720 just it's they're like three first of all, second of all, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:02.000 but like you can you but you slow dance girls, 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:06.400 She's no, but fran this is the thing. All you 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.440 listen to our fucking remixes and not not everything is 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.360 going to be like I fear out. I love remixes, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:20.480 but I do not listen to majority remixes. I think that, Honestly, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.160 the way I really do feel about Florence is that 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.960 she was like my like in my the top tier 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.520 of music artists that I adored for a really long 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.840 time in my tumbler era. And I think that because 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.640 she has not changed, but my taste has changed that 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.319 her music, which is sonically gorgeous and still of its own, 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.760 kind of just as you said, like unlike anything out there, 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.040 still is something that I, on a taste level, have 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:51.080 maybe outgrown. But I also feel like music artists, especially 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.079 women in music like shouldn't have to reinvent themselves over 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.880 and over again, like they are women like Lana or 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.439 even Adele. Honestly, although I do think A Dell's last 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.120 album was very different, like that can do the same 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:05.240 thing over and over again and they'll always have their base, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.200 and I think that that is just something that you know, 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.400 I really honor and you are someone who like your 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.240 taste level is essentially you know, a pantheon of Caucasian 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:21.120 yodelers with lexapro prescriptions that that you idolize. You know, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:26.960 the Fiona Apple, Alanis k Bush, Florence the Machine. There's 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:31.760 one more in there. Taylor doesn't yodel as much. I mean, 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.640 this is all not untrue, but I do I will 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.400 take I do take umbrage with the idea that Florence 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:42.320 hasn't changed, because I think her songwriting has gotten so much, 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:49.880 so much, both sharper and softer, like I think she 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.920 if you really take the time and really listen, the 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:01.199 lyrics are so beautiful and her voice is still just haunting. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.560 She is a siren, She is a banshee. She is 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.439 the moment for me? Do you did you not that 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.760 this is a stupid tangent, But did you notice that 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:13.079 like in the little like Spotify album art, Florence in 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:18.880 the Machine is is is abbreviated to ft Yeah, girl, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.760 do you think so? Do you think she knows? Do 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:24.520 you think anyone's told her that? Do you think it's 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.520 so many trans friends? She's like good Judy's with Sean Fay, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:36.480 Tommy Dorfman. Someone definitely love that your trans mask. Now, Okay, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.440 I literally like, how do we become you know, among 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.360 the echelon of Florence's trans friends, Like, how do we 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.920 how do we accomplish this? Do you think I don't know? 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.880 I I have. I have been wondering about this for 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.120 a while, but I actually don't think I could ever 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.480 meet her because I'm she is and this is so 0:10:56.559 --> 0:11:01.560 gay to say she's too important to me. I Similarly, 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:03.560 I would never want to meet a share because like, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.839 I don't want Share to like ruin share for me, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.719 you know what I mean? Yeah, there are you some 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.240 idols you just shouldn't meet. Although I have met Gaga 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.720 and it was a fun interaction. Okay, wait, I didn't 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.040 even ask you about your New York trip? How did 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.120 it go? It was um really good to be in 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:23.080 New York. It was also weird. It was disgusting the 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.360 whole time it was there. It's probably like the most 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:30.040 humid weekend of the year, so it was horrible for 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.800 like looking cute, but it was good. I it weirdly 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.840 ended up well, Okay, so ap peeling back the Curtain 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.720 for All the Virgins. For Christmas, friend got me the 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.559 very sweet gift of two tickets to see New York 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.880 City Centers On Corps production of Into the Which is 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:52.760 your favorite, it's my It's my time favorite, like tied 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.920 with Sweeney todd Um, but Into the Woods does kind 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:02.800 of like eke out a little bit forward and was incredible. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.760 First of all, the tickets were amazing. Thank you so much. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:11.680 I truly it was such a thoughtful gift and such 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.080 an amazing experience with my with my best friend Ryan. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.120 It was great. The production was great. It was like 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.840 very simple orchestra was on stage, like very minimal staging. 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:28.600 Everyone was incredible. Heather, who originated the role of Aida, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:33.880 and Aida was so fucking good as the Witch. Her 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:39.800 last Midnight gave me chills. Um Sarah Borellis, I like, 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:44.760 am not a huge Sarah Barella stand. She was so 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:50.200 fucking good. Her voice is like butter, her tone is 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.560 so pure. Everything she does is effortless, and the Baker's 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.600 wife really is like the sleeper hit role of that show. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:00.720 I think she has some of the sup rising lee 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.640 memorable moments of the show. Um Neil Patrick Harris was 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:09.040 was really good to the one thing that is bad 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.640 about this production, and I think it's transferring to Broadway. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:16.880 That's what the best the like Broadway dot com message 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.880 boards are saying. According to Ryan So, at the end 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.600 of the show, the most moving song on the show 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.400 for me is the finale. Children will listen, So the 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:32.560 finale is happening. I'm sobbing, And then like the emotional 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.760 crux of the finale, the house lights come on and 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:42.400 a like community theater group walks out into the aisles 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:47.320 to sing the end of the finale song with I 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:53.000 haven't never been taken out of a moment so abruptly 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:58.520 as the house slights. Not the house lights, that's because yes, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:03.120 it was incredibly jarring. I I went from sobbing to 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:08.280 like confused so quickly. It was such a weird choice. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.560 And actually, my my brother had seen the show already 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.959 and the night before had said to me, there's something 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.920 that happens in the show that I really didn't like. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.160 I'm very interested to hear what your take on it is. 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.920 I won't spoil it for you, And it was this obviously, 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:25.960 it's it just really took you out of the moment um. 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:30.120 It really cut the like effect of the the effectiveness 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.720 of the emotional core of that song off in in 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.400 a really unfortunate way and undercut what the cast was 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:41.360 doing on stage, and like, you know, like the people 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.200 from this community theater, they're really going for it, like 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.760 standing in the aisles, they're like singing along and like 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.800 pointing and stuff, and it's it was just not good, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.640 not right. I hope if it goes to Broadway they 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.440 won't do it. I mean, I'm sure it won't because 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.680 they would have to pay those people and like that 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.200 just won't happen at every mormants. But yeah, other other 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:05.480 than that, it was wonderful. I had a great time. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:13.160 So thank you again. So okay, let's talk about Let's 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.040 talk about the real show of the week, which was 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.360 the premiere of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills season twelve. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.440 Obviously a premiere episode that was very centered on one 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.720 thing that we all knew, what I actually forgot. I 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.240 was Derek and Pek's house getting broken into and Derek 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.360 getting held a gunpoint. And honestly, it feels like the 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.000 rest of the season is going to be around like 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.640 their PTSD. Yeah, the ramifications, you know, will be felt 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.040 throughout the rest of the season. The moment that was 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.800 the most chilling for me was at the end when 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:50.160 she was sitting outside alone, going I'm fine fine. People 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.760 are still saying that the Burglaries fake. I after seeing 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:58.440 this episode, do not believe it, like crying about not 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:03.160 being there. Wait, the most horrible and also entertaining moment 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:07.920 of the episode was Sutton talking Kyle and being a 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:12.040 completeth no other word for it. And that's like at 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:16.560 a very exact usage, like a sociopathic level of self involvement, 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.120 absolutely no empathy. Like it doesn't even matter how it 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:22.960 was edited, there's no way for it to have been 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:28.760 edited for it. It was bad. Horrible person, horrible person, great, 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.800 great reality character. I hate Sutton, and you can and 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.520 you can be both. You can be both, and actually 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:40.240 sometimes they are. They're required to yes, and every every season, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.320 I unfortunately have to very toxically rank them. And I 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.600 really don't know where Sutton's gonna land for me because 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:50.960 I hate, hate, hate, hate Sutton, and yet she really 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.640 is endlessly entertaining because she's so horrible. Um, I have 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.400 to say like this, I think to read's thing, I'm 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.240 like on a horrified to find out that people are 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.280 like doubted that it was ever real, Like, well, that 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.879 was the thing everyone was saying when the news broke, 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.359 because I think because the timing of it, it happened 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:14.880 the day before they were supposed to start. But I don't. 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:20.000 I just think I could see sudden staging, yes, robbery, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.760 but I know I don't. I just don't. That would 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.239 never be my immediate reaction. But I don't actually know 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.560 anybody that that felt that way, So it must be 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.919 like a lot of online sentiment. But like, I feel 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:36.680 like it's reminding me, honestly of Season two, where they're 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:41.120 dealing with an extremely real, painful traumatic event that has 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.520 been reality TV ified, and I'm it's gonna be hard 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.040 to watch. Yes, I actually on the plane to New York. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.679 I hadn't watched the premier yet, but I was flying 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.280 Jet Blue there and they had live TV and there 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.280 was a Beverly Hills marathon happening on, so I tuned. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.840 I tuned in for a little bit until my xanex 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:04.520 picked in UM and it was season two UM. The 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:09.840 episode where they're at Mauriceo's um birthday dinner. They go 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.040 to Hawaii birthday and Kim misses the plane and then 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.880 she and her boyfriend show up late, and I just horrible, horrible. 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:23.000 Boy was one of Mauricio's golden moments where he was 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.040 he literally called her on her bullshit. He was just like, no, like, 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.720 you were late and this is disrespectful, and I just 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.000 wanted we need to we need to get him back, 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.440 We need him back. Show there is there is nothing 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:40.320 like like a season of Real Housewives when people are 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.280 related and there is real family drama. That's why New 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.280 Jersey is still elite. And I will be watching New 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:50.240 Jersey the next time I get the stomach flu um. 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.400 I have to say that as far as like um, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.360 just to go back to the Sutton thing, I really 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:02.439 really really hate Kyle when she is so spineless in 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.359 an interaction like that, to be kind of unable to 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.480 really say what's wrong with going with with what's going on? 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:13.360 Because if if you, my extremely good friend, acted like 0:19:13.520 --> 0:19:17.360 that to me, I would I would like slap you. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:21.240 I would say you're you. I'd be like you are lucky. 0:19:21.240 --> 0:19:23.320 It's wrong with you. I'd be like, you are lucky. 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.119 There are another people now right now, get out of 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:27.879 my transgender home anyways. I was just like, it's moments 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:29.760 like that where I really I just like, have never 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:35.200 really loved Kyle as a protagonist for the entire franchise. Um, 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.040 but I really need her to like grow a spine, 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:39.800 because like right now, it's just like not cutting it. 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.680 She won't, she never will she. Unfortunately, I am back 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:47.520 on team Erica. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.800 I'm not proud of this fact. I don't understand you 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.080 have you have gone on record saying that she's your favorite. 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.919 She's no longer my favorite housewife, unfortunately. But I do 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.720 think that there was a moment of the confessional where 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.480 she was really trying to evade questions that the producer 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.920 was asking her, and she was just like they ended 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.560 up like sharing what the producer was asking her because 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.240 she was being so indignant. She was like, well fucking duh, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:13.679 like and I just thought that was so iconical. But 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:18.400 she was also like dodging questions about the Tom Girardi 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:22.160 of it all and like things being settled. She's so 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.840 she's I don't she's gonna be my favorite from this season. 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:27.800 I think the new villain, whatever her face is the 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.200 new girl coming in who apparently I heard, is rumored 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:36.080 to have once like been somewhat involved with Jeffrey Epstein, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:44.679 like she was the sort of a Galaine. Yeah, I mean, god, truly, 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.280 I mean, honestly, they probably all have affiliation to Jeffrey Epstein, like, 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.359 let's to be real, like it's but I don't know. 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.160 We'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Um. But I think 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:55.920 you all will need to get used to the fact 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.480 that we will be probably discussing Beverly Hills weekly on 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:03.440 the weekly, and maybe we'll do a Housewives episode, because 0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.159 I think that is one of the things that I 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:10.760 did pressure you into us. Are you were the kind 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:12.800 of thing to push me over the edge to start 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:19.120 watching You're you're calling me, I'm calling you no virgins. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.320 It's been so fun engaging with you on Instagram. If 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:27.160 you aren't already, please follow our burner Finsta, alt whatever 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:32.480 like a virgin for We've been getting suggestions and I mean, 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.520 not criticism yet, but like I would accept criticism the 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:38.680 d M S. I wouldn't necessarily, you know, incorporated into 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:41.159 anything I do or say, but I would love to 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:53.800 hear what you have to say. How would an ORCS 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:56.800 dick even fit in a hobbit. I think Orc dicks 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:00.320 must be really spiky. As someone who has had a 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.800 lot of Lard of the Rings fan fiction, I have 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.439 spent a lot of time thinking about the anatomy of 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.959 the different races of Middle Earth, and and most of 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.679 my preoccupation is with how would a hobbit hole take 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:20.200 the dick of saying elf probable? Yeah, hobbitble multiple meanings, Honey, 0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.720 we honestly need to Every time we like use terms, 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:24.919 we need to like explain them. For Phoebe, a hobbit 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:30.840 hobbit hole is a double entendre. You do Phoebe knows 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.520 about definition? Got it? Okay? Do you really see yourself 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:35.679 as a gladiol? Yeah? I mean what else would I 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.119 what else would I be? What do you see me as? 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:41.760 It's a very important but let's start here. Let's start here. Okay. 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:47.560 I think you are more of I don't know that 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.879 you're an elf. Yeah, they're way too graceful. Um, I 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:57.040 think hobbit. I'm probably hobbit. I'm anxious. I can't get 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.360 a lot done. I feel like, uh I I make 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:04.120 a mess of things, but I'm ultimately chaotic good. Yeah, 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.680 Hobbits get are giving me because of how much they 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:13.920 love their things and they love food and revelry. They're 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.679 giving me very torus energy. So I do think you 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.520 are a hobbit. The indulgences of Hobbits and their twelve 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.760 meals that they have a day is very torrey in behavior. 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:27.119 Sucking breakfast honestly, I mean, let's take it back to 0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:31.400 their little hobbit holes full of plants. My hobbit hole 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.040 is not filled with plants. Okay, so what what what 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.760 of the Middle Earthian races do you think? I am well, 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.480 I was actually going to ask you, Okay, just to 0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:44.320 answer your question very quickly, I think it's gonna be Wizard. 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.959 It's gonna be Wizard and Unford the Unfortunately, there are 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.159 no women in the Lord of the Rings franchise, so 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:52.840 I can't assign you like because I was going to say, 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:54.960 I was almost going to say I could see myself 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:59.040 as a dwarf. But there are witches in the Tolkien universe. 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.800 It just they didn't appear. But but um, I was 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:05.040 going to ask you growing up, when you were watching 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:09.119 these movies or reading the books, did you supplant yourself 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.440 on any specific character, because I really feel that this 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:17.760 is one of those unique entities where I really did 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:20.600 not relate to any character same I was. I was 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.280 an observer. I was very immersed in the world, but 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:27.040 there was no like I'm hermiony there. That's not what 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:29.040 the Lord of the Rings was for me, honestly, maybe 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:32.480 a testament to like the artifice of relatability and the 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.400 universal story and how like a lot of Hollywood execs 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.720 always talk about like you need to be able to 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:40.159 see yourself in this character and blah blah blah, and 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.720 it's like that's actually bullshit, Like a Lord of the 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:45.600 Rings had absolutely nothing to do with me. Even the 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.920 humanity of these characters behind all the fantasy really didn't 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.359 resonate with me at all. And yet it's a fucking 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.840 good story. Yes, well, okay, so I want to know 0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:58.400 what was your first experience with J. R. Tolkien's creations. 0:24:58.720 --> 0:25:01.960