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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: People are murdered every single day, but this particular one.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to understand why this has become such a

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Speaker 3: flashpoint on the way.

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Speaker 4: I have to say, some of the replies to months,

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Speaker 4: some of the comments around the story are baldly racists.

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Speaker 5: The President and his allies are using the attack to

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Speaker 5: accused Democrats of the soft dot com.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so the President has pointed the finger of Democrats.

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Speaker 4: Members of the Trump administration also used the video to

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Speaker 4: criticize Democratic led cities.

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Speaker 7: The president blaming Democrats for Zaruka's death.

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Speaker 4: It is Trump aligned influencers who are posting up.

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Speaker 8: A storm about this case on social media.

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Speaker 3: Certain people have been looking for an opportunity to find

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Speaker 3: a case like this to make a point.

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Speaker 4: That all comes, of course, as Trump is seizing trying

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Speaker 4: to seize control of other cities that he says are

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Speaker 4: not safe.

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Speaker 9: I mean, Charlotte is a place where a very effective

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Speaker 9: police department, very effective leadership, murders down twenty nine percent.

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Speaker 4: Charlotte police were touting a twenty five percent reduction in

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Speaker 4: violent crime.

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Speaker 9: What he really needed was in patient mental health care

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Speaker 9: and North Carolina rates last when it comes to mental

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Speaker 9: health bed availability.

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Speaker 10: What are the city managers doing to make sure they

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Speaker 10: are investing in these individuals to get them to health.

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Speaker 11: If you want to be addressing the mental health issues

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Speaker 11: of these folks and prevent the recidivism, you do need

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Speaker 11: to be investing in mental health.

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Speaker 4: And spoke with his mother and his sister would say

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Speaker 4: that for years they have struggled to get him adequate

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Speaker 4: mental health treatmentnesses.

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Speaker 11: And if you really want to know who the criminals

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Speaker 11: are in this country, you can google it. You don't

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Speaker 11: have to trust me, But the people that commit eighty

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Speaker 11: percent of the most violent times in this country are

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Speaker 11: white supremacist. Yet for whatever reason, they sit and they serve.

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Speaker 12: At the pleasure of the president.

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Speaker 11: They are the ones that were there on January sixth

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Speaker 11: tearing our democracy down physically, and now we have them

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Speaker 11: tearned us down right here from within?

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Speaker 7: Are prisons obsolete?

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Speaker 13: Who coming through with the quotes, through with the titles

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Speaker 13: of the books.

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Speaker 12: I have to read that.

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Speaker 7: Actually I haven't read that as yet, but.

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Speaker 1: I think that, frankly, I mean, what perpose do they serve?

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Speaker 14: Right?

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Speaker 2: I think we have to ask ourselves that which is that?

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Speaker 14: You know?

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Speaker 15: I think a lot of people who defend the carcial state,

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Speaker 15: to defend the idea.

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Speaker 11: Of it and the way it makes them shield.

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Speaker 16: I also, with respect, sir, thank you for the information

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Speaker 16: that you have shared on this show. But we would

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Speaker 16: appreciate all of the information, all of it, all.

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Speaker 17: Of the.

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Speaker 2: I've done this show several times.

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Speaker 7: Every time on your show, I speak with integrity.

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Speaker 2: I speak with honesty, and I speak with facts. The

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Speaker 2: bottom line is, because of all the falls and you

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Speaker 2: using the term disappearing people.

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Speaker 7: To the group, thatsentially.

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Speaker 2: Citizens.

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Speaker 4: US citizens get arrested every day you and citizens get

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Speaker 4: rested by priests every day.

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Speaker 2: Are they being disappeared? You know, the laws are being

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Speaker 2: being rested.

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Speaker 7: They're being put in detention because they committed a.

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Speaker 2: Criminal not like what you're doing.

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Speaker 16: We will not let a progressive DA keep this case.

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Speaker 16: Justice will be served. He'll be prosecuted to the fullest

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Speaker 16: extant at the law.

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Speaker 5: In Mecklenburg County. The sitting clerk is Alyssa Chin Gary.

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Speaker 5: On her LinkedIn.

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Speaker 18: Page, she calls herself a clerk and a.

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Speaker 5: DEI consultant and a racial equity organizer and her life

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Speaker 5: mission reparations.

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Speaker 19: We are here to honor them to lift their names

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Speaker 19: and to continue the inter generational work that we are

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Speaker 19: required to do to eliminate structural racism.

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Speaker 5: Miss Stokes was nominated by Judge Carlo Archie.

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Speaker 4: A new video of a Ukrainian refugees murder caught on

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Speaker 4: cam right.

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Speaker 3: It is absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 20: Trump is now seizing on this to push his nationwide crackdown.

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Speaker 8: We cannot allow it.

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Speaker 1: The brave criminal element.

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Speaker 15: Of violent repeat offenders to continue spreading destruction and death

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Speaker 15: throughout our country. We have to respond with force and strength.

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Speaker 15: We have to be vicious, just like they are. It's

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Speaker 15: the only thing they understand. Twenty four of the top

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Speaker 15: twenty five most dangerous cities in America are run by

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Speaker 15: Democrat mayors and it's time to stop this madness. The

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Speaker 15: people of our country need to insist on protection, safety.

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Speaker 2: Law and order.

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Speaker 15: We have proven that it can be done.

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Speaker 6: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 6: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve

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Speaker 6: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 6: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 6: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 21: This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Fuck a lot. Here we go on everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 22: Andrew Covid in for the one and only Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 22: who starts his college tour.

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Speaker 1: The Fault Tour is kicking off today in Utah.

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Speaker 22: We're here at the Bitcoin dot Com Mobile studios.

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Speaker 1: Hold it down for him. Never fear. We've got a

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Speaker 1: great hour two with him.

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Speaker 22: It's such a treat by the way he sits down

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Speaker 22: with James or basically the only conservative at Cambridge University

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Speaker 22: and a great guy that I personally got to spend

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Speaker 22: a lot of time with, have really in depth conversations.

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Speaker 22: The guy has a photographic memory of the Western Canon.

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Speaker 22: And Charlie and James are doctor Orr. Are going to

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Speaker 22: be talking length an hour two, so stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 22: You're not not gonna want to miss it.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, we.

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Speaker 22: Have work to do and I have a really special

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Speaker 22: guest to kick off the show with us today, and

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Speaker 22: that would be Libby Emmons, editor in chief of the

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Speaker 22: Post Millennial and Human Events.

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Speaker 1: A great guest.

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Speaker 22: But Libby, before we dive into it, there was a

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Speaker 22: clip of you and Jack Bosobic on timcast last night

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Speaker 22: and that's why you're here because it was such a

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Speaker 22: great jumping off point for the discussion I want to

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Speaker 22: have with you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and play cut four O seven.

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Speaker 23: In reality, and you can see the statistics. You can

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Speaker 23: see the data that unfortunately, we have a problem of

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Speaker 23: mass violence against white people YEP in this country that

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Speaker 23: has gone completely unchecked and in some cases encourage and

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Speaker 23: in every single case you have people like Van Jones

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Speaker 23: going on TV and making excuses for it, and it's disgusting.

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Speaker 23: It is open season on white people in this country.

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Speaker 23: And it has been since the Knockout Game, it has

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Speaker 23: been since White Girl Bleae a lot, and now you

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Speaker 23: have the exact same things going on and on right.

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Speaker 20: You also you I mean we also saw we also

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Speaker 22: So that was a fiery little segment and I hope

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Speaker 22: we captured it. I mean, there was a lot going

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Speaker 22: Lebby Jack's making a pretty i would say, controversial point

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Speaker 22: that it's open season on white people in this country.

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Speaker 1: We don't I guess the floor is yours, Libby? Is

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Speaker 1: that true?

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Speaker 22: What are we really dealing with I want to narrow

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Speaker 22: down on what is happening in this moment, this clip

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Speaker 22: it's radicalizing a lot of people, and it's it's moved

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Speaker 22: the Overton window more rapidly than I have seen anything

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Speaker 1: So Libby, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that was a really interesting conversation last night with

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Speaker 20: Jack and him, and we did get into a lot

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Speaker 20: important to remember when you hear a comment like that

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Speaker 20: that under the Biden administration, the FBI said outright that

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Speaker 20: the biggest domestic threat in this country, the biggest, you know,

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Speaker 20: threat of domestic extremism in the country, were from white supremacists.

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Speaker 20: We've had years and years of rhetoric saying that white

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Speaker 20: the work of anti racism, which means stepping back, which

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Speaker 20: means giving up jobs, which means, you know, giving your

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Speaker 20: alleged privilege in society to people who are you know,

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Speaker 20: black and brown in this in this culture, and we've

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Speaker 20: seen that repeatedly over the years. With the George Floyd

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Speaker 20: I don't know necessarily that it's open season on white

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Speaker 20: You can even go back several years ago to the

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Speaker 20: whole punch and Nazi concept and the punch a Nazi concept.

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Speaker 20: Maybe it sounds great, you know, like punch Nazis, but

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Speaker 22: I you know, and I totally agree that there is

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Speaker 22: something that we have not been able to talk about.

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Speaker 22: You know, I used to mock this expression from the

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Speaker 22: We have to have a conversation about racism in American

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Speaker 22: systemic racism. Well, in this instance, I think there is

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Speaker 22: a conversation about. And the media blackout about this story

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Speaker 22: They did not want to cover this story because it

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Speaker 22: exposed their gross incompetence. It exposed the failed experiment known

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Speaker 22: as criminal justice reform, which is really fueled by this

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Speaker 22: idea that we have a systemically oppressive country against black people.

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Speaker 22: We have not been able to talk about the other

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Speaker 22: I think the point that Jack was making that when

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Speaker 22: you look at raw numbers, that there is actually more,

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Speaker 22: you know, interracial attacks against white Americans than the other

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Speaker 22: way around. And that's when you per capita, it's even

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Speaker 22: more extreme because black people only represent about twelve and

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Speaker 22: a half percent of the population. And so this but

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Speaker 22: let me play a clip here, because yesterday Charlie talked

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Speaker 22: about the fact that Van Jones came after him for

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Speaker 22: race mongering hate mongering about this. Well, there's a clip

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Speaker 22: going around from Van Jones in that era twenty twenty

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Speaker 22: that you talked about Libby right after George Floyd died

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Speaker 22: in Minneapolis three ninety eight.

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Speaker 10: So even the most liberal, well intentioned white person has

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Speaker 10: a virus in his or her brain that can be

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Speaker 10: activated at an instant. And so what you're seeing now

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Speaker 10: is a curtain falling away. And those of us who

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Speaker 22: to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett, executive producer of

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Speaker 22: And again, this is not anti black, this is not

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Speaker 22: This is how deep it goes. From the official Black

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Speaker 22: But this, I think is where I want to land

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Speaker 22: this conversation, this last minute, Libby, is that these policies

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Speaker 22: Lyby Emmen's Postmillennial Human Events, thank you so much.

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Speaker 22: really quick before we get into the footage, introduce yourself

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Speaker 7: Yeah, my name is Nick Shirley.

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Speaker 13: I'm an independent YouTube journalist, and I go all across

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Speaker 13: the world, not just only not just the United States,

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Speaker 7: Who they're voting for.

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Speaker 13: I go to all the locations, or just doing ride

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Speaker 13: alongs with gangsters in Chicago as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this I saw it.

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Speaker 22: I was like, this is like a It was some

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Speaker 22: of the most incredible footage I've ever seen, because you

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Speaker 22: went straight into the West Side kind of hood of

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Speaker 22: Chicago and you're hanging out with gangsters. At one point

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Speaker 22: they point the gun at your cameraman and you hear

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Speaker 22: them go whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. I mean, this is

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Speaker 22: this is really radical stuff and you put yourself in

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Speaker 22: harm's way for this footage. So I just want to

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Speaker 22: start playing some of it because it not only is

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Speaker 22: it amazing to see up close, it's also so newsy

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Speaker 22: and everything that's happened, and I think it gives people

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Speaker 22: a really unique insight into how these cultures of crime

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Speaker 22: and real like.

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Speaker 1: Urban warfare, uh happened. Let's go ahead and play. We

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Speaker 1: could start anywhere, but let's go four o one.

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Speaker 7: So right now, you got this massive gun on you.

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Speaker 2: What is this called a ip?

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?

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Speaker 13: And now if your brother got shot, how do you

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Speaker 13: feel about gun byance? And are you ready for the

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Speaker 13: gun vines to stop? Or what do you got tattooed

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Speaker 13: on the face?

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Speaker 1: I got tattooed on my face right there? These are

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Speaker 1: my brothers. I'm a Muslim Muslim okay?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: And how many time has you been done? Shot?

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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Speaker 7: You got shot right here? Looks like another shot. Well

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Speaker 7: you got a bullet inside your body? Yeah, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 7: it's fat.

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Speaker 13: You've been shot too, right here, right here, right here,

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Speaker 13: you got one bullet shot right here, one right there,

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Speaker 13: and then you have a literal bullet in your ribbed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: What kind of bullet you got in here? It's like

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Speaker 7: a forty forty when I go like that.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, So I mean how many people do you hang

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Speaker 22: out with? And how many of those people were shot?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I hung out with about five people on each of

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Speaker 13: them have been shot around three times each. And the

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Speaker 13: ball wounds are there. One guy literally, like it showed

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Speaker 13: there in the video, he had that rip, he had

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Speaker 13: the bullet watched into his ribs.

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Speaker 1: Geez.

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Speaker 22: And you asked that one individual in that clip like, hey,

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Speaker 22: now that you've been shot, are you ready to see

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Speaker 22: the gun violence?

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Speaker 1: Died down? And his answer was hell nah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Not only did he say hell na, it was his

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Speaker 13: brother that died, his twin brother that got shot and killed.

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Speaker 13: And what they call is the cycle, And the way

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Speaker 13: they explained it to me is that so somebody kills you,

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Speaker 13: or somebody kills somebody you love, that just makes you

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Speaker 13: want to go kill him and somebody else, and then

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Speaker 13: that cycle just repeats and repeats, and that's why there's

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Speaker 13: so much gun violence, because everyone's just trying to get

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Speaker 13: get back on somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Jeez.

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Speaker 22: This is a longer clip, but I think it's important

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Speaker 22: because it talks about it kind of reveals how young

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Speaker 22: this starts.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and play cut three eighty three?

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Speaker 7: How old are you?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 22: What?

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Speaker 1: Why there was so secret?

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Speaker 2: He here?

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Speaker 7: Why west with?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: Westood on the Why do you walk around with a shisty?

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Speaker 17: Because? Yeah, I play no games? Uh?

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Speaker 7: Like, are you in high school?

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Speaker 12: Still?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I still?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 2: I see I'm I'm out a high school. I got

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Speaker 2: kicked out?

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Speaker 13: And what do you hope that happens with your life

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Speaker 13: in your future?

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Speaker 2: I hope, I hope we get better. I ain't gonna vout.

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Speaker 7: What's your current situation?

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Speaker 2: Family?

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Speaker 17: Though we are?

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Speaker 2: Are you in doing a whole bunch of more? This is?

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Speaker 2: This is chaos?

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Speaker 7: So what do you think would be the solution to

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Speaker 7: get yourself out of chaos?

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Speaker 17: Would be good?

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Speaker 13: Would it be to go to college, get an education,

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Speaker 13: move out of Chicago?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 26: And man think about moving to Chicago. Man posting on

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Speaker 26: the story telling all they canna move out of Cargo.

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Speaker 2: I've been looking at thumb all on line.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna get out the rag that's crazy?

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Speaker 13: Is it pretty dangerous to be walking around these streets.

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Speaker 1: Yea, I ain't gonna bro is that why you're walking?

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Speaker 26: I got up thrown by faux pipes one day. One

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Speaker 26: guy one of them shot but didn't him me, and

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Speaker 26: that was that was the first day I ever even

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Speaker 26: knew how to hit a lake on my grandma.

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Speaker 22: I don't even know what he means by that. And

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Speaker 22: actually it's funny. A couple of times you asked them

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Speaker 22: to translate for you because he's like, you're You're like,

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Speaker 22: I don't think anybody's gonna be speaking and translating hood

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Speaker 22: hood talk. But I mean, this is just you just

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Speaker 22: met this guy in the street and he'd been shot

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Speaker 22: at He's in a high schooler age at least. And

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Speaker 22: how common is this in the West side of Chicago.

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Speaker 22: We obviously we hear about the South Side, but the

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Speaker 22: West Side as well.

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Speaker 13: I think it's pretty prevalent to see you, especially like

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Speaker 13: frinds that I was broad daylight on a weekday at

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Speaker 13: a gas station. That kid was out there walking around

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Speaker 13: and he had been spelled and kicked out of high school.

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Speaker 7: And so there are a lot of people like that.

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Speaker 13: I don't know to what extent, but it does happen,

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Speaker 13: and there's a lot of kids that do find themselves

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Speaker 13: into that gang lifestyle and finding themselves into that cycle,

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Speaker 13: like they say, and it's kind of sad to see somebody.

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Speaker 7: Knowing that it's bad, get into that.

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Speaker 22: So there's some statistics here, Nick that suggests that twelve

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Speaker 22: point five percent of black men in Chicago will have

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Speaker 22: been shot by the age of forty. So obviously that

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Speaker 22: percentage is going to be much higher in the wrapper

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Speaker 22: sort of gangster community.

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Speaker 1: But that's more than one intent.

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Speaker 22: So if you're born a black man in Chicago, a

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Speaker 22: little baby, by the time you're forty, more than one

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Speaker 22: in ten of them is going to be shot. And

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Speaker 22: I can't instantly compare that to statistics of war in

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Speaker 22: Ukraine or in Gaza or whatever, but I have to

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Speaker 22: believe that that is.

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Speaker 1: Equivalent.

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Speaker 22: It's probably on par maybe higher than some of these

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Speaker 22: places that we consider war zones in the country. Do

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Speaker 22: they have enough sense or reflection that they are living

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Speaker 22: in a war zone?

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Speaker 13: Well, you know, they do call Chicago sh Iraq, So

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Speaker 13: who are referring it to as a war zone?

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Speaker 7: And I mean the casualties there. Every weekend there's.

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Speaker 13: About five homicides, five murders, five field gets shot. Just

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Speaker 13: on Labor Day weekend, there's over fifty eight people that

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Speaker 13: got shot, and I believe eight people died that weekend.

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Speaker 13: So every weekend people are dying on the streets to Chicago.

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Speaker 13: And Trump's even offering to give them help, to send

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Speaker 13: the National Guard. And I even talked to the gangsters yesterday.

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Speaker 13: I was just following up with some seeing how they're doing,

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Speaker 13: and I was asking about if Trump should send it

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Speaker 13: the National Guard, and.

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Speaker 7: They even said that it would be a good.

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Speaker 13: Idea to send them in, and especially to get rid

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Speaker 13: of the legal gangs, because the illegal gangs aren't played

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Speaker 13: by the same rules they play by.

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Speaker 1: And so they explain, explain that.

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Speaker 22: So so these guys, I mean, you know, they're part

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Speaker 22: of a gang, but they're worried about the illegals that

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Speaker 22: are also forming gangs and they're playing by different set

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Speaker 22: of rules.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Like obviously they're from Latin America and they're from

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Speaker 13: cartel controlled countries, so they don't play by the rules

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Speaker 13: of you got to do this to make sure you

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Speaker 13: don't get by this.

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Speaker 7: They those they don't have those rules where they where

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Speaker 7: they play, where they do their crimes.

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Speaker 13: So and these gangsters, like the gangsters I was with,

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Speaker 13: they were cool with me. They're nice guys and like

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Speaker 13: they if you could get them the option to get out,

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Speaker 13: they probably would. They just don't know how to really

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Speaker 13: get out of that lifestyle. And they're so used to it.

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Speaker 13: They've been brought up into it. And they they'll say

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Speaker 13: themselves that they were just brought up into it and

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Speaker 13: they never got out.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 22: It's like it's like another world. Honestly, it's like you're

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Speaker 22: you're looking at Martians or something. And that's not a

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Speaker 22: racial comment. It's it's just the amount of crime that

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Speaker 22: they live with and that they're just accustomed to. It's

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Speaker 22: just I think a lot of people in this audience,

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Speaker 22: all right, it just can't relate. Let's go ahead and

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Speaker 22: play another cut here, four oh six.

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Speaker 1: What kind of.

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Speaker 7: Bullet you got in here?

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Speaker 1: It's like a forty fortying.

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Speaker 27: That hurt when I go like that, Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 27: can't feel that.

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Speaker 7: What'd you get shot for?

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Speaker 13: Being?

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Speaker 8: Me?

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Speaker 1: Being on?

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Speaker 5: And on?

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Speaker 15: Here?

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Speaker 13: In Chicago it's pretty much the murder capital of the

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Speaker 13: United States. So a lot of these shootings and murders

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Speaker 13: have reason to them or is it just like I

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Speaker 13: shoot you, you shoot me?

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Speaker 1: This is a war.

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Speaker 12: Nah, let's just be trying to get a name for this.

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Speaker 13: I ain't gonna like a name for to get respect,

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Speaker 13: you see, and me like street.

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Speaker 17: Credibility, that's really none.

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Speaker 1: What's really funny?

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Speaker 27: Day?

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Speaker 13: So it's just for street credit these days to shoot

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Speaker 13: somebody and kill them. How many people that get shot

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Speaker 13: and die? How many of those killers do you think

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Speaker 13: are still walking the streets?

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Speaker 7: What you mean like, how many he'll get away after

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Speaker 7: they kill somebody. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It don't take us that long. It don't take us that.

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Speaker 2: Long for it get back.

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Speaker 22: Oh so we hear that it's about it's less than

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Speaker 22: a fifty percent clearance, right, which is how many murders

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Speaker 22: get solved in the city of Chicago, So more than

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Speaker 22: half never get solved. But this guy says, and this

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Speaker 22: is kind of one of the main characters. That guy,

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Speaker 22: the last guy that we saw there that you talked with,

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Speaker 22: you wrote around with him, he drove you around the city.

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Speaker 22: He's also a rapper, right, He says, Well, I don't know,

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Speaker 22: it doesn't take that long.

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Speaker 1: For us to get a to get a get back.

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Speaker 22: So he's suggesting, well, even if the police don't get

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Speaker 22: the guy that shot us, we're going to get him.

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Speaker 22: And that is really the cycle in a nutshell right there,

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Speaker 22: Nick Shirley.

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Speaker 1: Your reaction to that clip, Nick.

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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, so I'm sorry.

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Speaker 13: I thought you're closing out, but yeah, no, they.

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Speaker 7: Obviously it's these communities are not big.

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Speaker 13: It's it's just a few blocks, and it's kind of

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Speaker 13: it's kind of sad to think that Chicago is running

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Speaker 13: like a country in South Latin America.

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Speaker 7: For instance. Some of these guys can't go from one

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Speaker 7: street to the next.

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Speaker 13: We drove across one area and he freaked out, had

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Speaker 13: my camera out, and he's like, well, we can't make

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Speaker 13: sure that my car gets put on camera because we're

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Speaker 13: not inside my area now. And so these guys don't

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Speaker 13: even feel comfortable going from one street to the next

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Speaker 13: some of these locations. So there is very much an

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Speaker 13: active war between gangs going on inside of Chicago, and

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Speaker 13: it's not a secret.

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Speaker 7: So the governor and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, so that's my next question.

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Speaker 1: When you hear JB.

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Speaker 22: Pritzker or Brandon Johnson out of the city of Chicago

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Speaker 22: fight tooth and nail to keep the National Guard out

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Speaker 22: of the city. But even you've got these gangsters saying

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Speaker 22: it'd be good to do this. What's what's that dynamic?

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Speaker 22: How do you now that you've seen it up close? Like,

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Speaker 22: what's do you have a conclusion? If you do, you

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Speaker 22: feel like it would be a good idea for the

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Speaker 22: National Guard to be in in Chicago.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think those both those guys are pretty stupid,

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Speaker 13: if we're all being honest, right, why wouldn't they want

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Speaker 13: their CDs to be safer? Why wouldn't want the Why

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Speaker 13: wouldn't they want their streets to be cleaner? It worked

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Speaker 13: in Washington, d C. And you know, and the people

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Speaker 13: you see protesting aren't the people that are inside of

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Speaker 13: these areas. There are all these people coming from the suburbs,

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Speaker 13: a bunch of old white liberals. It's sad to say it,

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Speaker 13: but it's the truth. And well, I mean a lot

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Speaker 13: of people just want areas to feel safer, and that's

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Speaker 13: all Trump's really offering to do.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, and to be candid. I mean, that's

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Speaker 22: why I wanted to have you on the show, because

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Speaker 22: I wanted everybody to see just how different the culture

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Speaker 22: is that these people are living under. Nick, thank you

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Speaker 22: so much for showing us this footage, for making the

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Speaker 22: time to come on the show and tell the audience

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Speaker 22: about it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 17: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 21: Relentless and spirit you're listening to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna wrap up our hour.

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Speaker 22: We got an exclusive clip from Brian Glenn who sat

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Speaker 22: down with Pam Bondi, and we're gonna show you that

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Speaker 22: in just one second. All right, Welcome back, everybody. Radio

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Speaker 22: stations across the country. Real America's Voice streaming podcast.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 22: Brian Glenn is one of these guys. You hear him

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Speaker 22: almost at every single White House press conference, Trump press conference.

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Speaker 22: He's there, he's in the mix. Great guy, really, just

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Speaker 22: And he got an exclusive moment with Pambondi and interview

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Speaker 22: with Pam Bondi and on their way to Chicago, and

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Speaker 22: so they let me know that this clip existed, and

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Speaker 22: I was like, absolutely, because we're gonna be talking with

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Speaker 22: Nick who you just met, who was in the streets

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Speaker 22: of Chicago, and a fascinating thing I didn't know he

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Speaker 22: was going to say was that even the native born,

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Speaker 22: you know, mostly black West Side and South Side gangsters

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Speaker 22: in Chicago that have all been shot and that are

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Speaker 22: living in this war zone known as an American urban core.

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Speaker 1: They don't like the illegals.

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Speaker 22: The illegal gangs don't play by the same rule, and

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Speaker 22: they're even more violent, and they're even more dangerous, and

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Speaker 22: they're moving into turf and they're causing more and more

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Speaker 22: destruction in a city like Chicago. And so they're on

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Speaker 22: their way to Chicago, and Brian gets an exclusive with

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Speaker 22: Pam Bondi and it looks like the federal government has

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Speaker 22: just raided and shut down an illegal Chinese vape factory.

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Speaker 22: So this is an important clip. Let's go ahead and play.

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Speaker 22: I don't know the number.

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Speaker 1: It's four to twelve. Let's go ahead and play. This

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Speaker 1: is a long clip, but it's an exclusive interview four twelve.

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Speaker 18: First of all, Attorney General like to talk about the

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Speaker 18: crime that we're seeing in this country right now, in

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Speaker 18: the need to make sure we have judges that will

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Speaker 18: prosecute these criminals and stop releasing them onto our streets.

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Speaker 27: Again, well, we have.

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Speaker 16: To have judges that will keep them in jail, and

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Speaker 16: we also have to have prosecutors who will argue to

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Speaker 16: keep them in jail. In Charlotte, North Carolina, I believe

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Speaker 16: we had a progressive, liberal district attorney who agreed with

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Speaker 16: these judges that you could do a written promise to

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Speaker 16: appear in court. And this guy had fourteen arrest prior

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Speaker 16: to violently brutally murdering that young woman. No more in

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Speaker 16: this country, We're going to fight back. We're going to

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Speaker 16: take these cases federally whenever we can. He murdered her

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Speaker 16: on a mass transit, and that gave us jurisdiction.

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Speaker 18: Hey, let's talk about the national Guard real quickly. Some

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Speaker 18: cities are saying, Hey, we want the Trump administration to

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Speaker 18: come in. We want the national Guard to secure our cities.

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Speaker 18: What's your thoughts on going forward with the national Guard

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Speaker 18: in other cities?

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Speaker 16: President Trump has every intention of going forward with a

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Speaker 16: national Guard in many cities throughout this country. You know

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Speaker 16: what he wants them to ask us. He wants them

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Speaker 16: to cooperate with us to help make their cities and

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Speaker 16: their states safe. Crime is rampant throughout this country. Look

898
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Speaker 16: what we've done right here in DC. It's beautiful now,

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Speaker 16: it's safer, it's getting even safer every single night with

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Speaker 16: our Guard, with our DEAFBI atf US Marshalls, working hand

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Speaker 16: in hand with park Police, with Metro, with Transit Authority

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Speaker 16: and the National Guard. So we're going to continue to

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Speaker 16: do that. Stay tuned. We're going to continue to do

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Speaker 16: that throughout this country.

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Speaker 18: Just a few weeks ago, parents and kids they went

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Speaker 18: back to school. Now under the Biden administration, parents that

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Speaker 18: they showed up at a school board meeting, they were

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Speaker 18: basically deemed domestic terrorists and for speaking out, you just

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Speaker 18: pushed out a memo about parents.

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Speaker 2: Right, Just talk about how important that is moving forward.

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Speaker 16: It's extremely important to President Trump and to our entire administration.

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Speaker 16: Parents have the right to direct the or the educational,

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Speaker 16: the religious leanings dealings with their children, not up to teachers,

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Speaker 16: not up to school boards. Parents have the right to

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Speaker 16: peacefully protest, to be heard at school board meetings, and

916
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Speaker 16: not to be declared domestic terrorists. We are going to

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Speaker 16: protect our parents and they in turn can protect their

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Speaker 16: children from transgender books in elementary school, to be safe,

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Speaker 16: to boys staying and boys bathrooms and girls staying and girls' bathrooms.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, great work there.

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Speaker 22: From Brian Glenn, the White House correspondent from Real America's voice,

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Speaker 22: and my understanding of that clip is that they were

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Speaker 22: on their way to Chicago, Brian Cotter on the tarmac.

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Speaker 22: Maybe he's traveling with her, I'm not sure, but that's

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Speaker 22: the Attorney General, Pam Bondi. And you see that, especially

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Speaker 22: that clip, that portion of the interview where they're talking

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Speaker 22: about the National Guard in these in these cities like Chicago.

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Speaker 22: And then you contrast that with some of the footage

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Speaker 22: that Nick Shirley got out of the West Side of

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Speaker 22: Chicago with those gangs and those rappers where they've all

931
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Speaker 22: been shot and they protect their blocks almost like a

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Speaker 22: mini nation state, and this cycle of violence continues on

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Speaker 22: and on and on, and they even call it a

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Speaker 22: war zone Chiraq. They actually say it's a war zone.

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Speaker 22: In the footage that Nick has. These are people living

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Speaker 22: in America, but it is not like the America you

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Speaker 22: or I probably know. It is much more dangerous, much

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Speaker 22: more violent, in the cycle of destruction and death and

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Speaker 22: murder just continues on and it spirals out of control.

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Speaker 22: Something has to be done to stop the cycle. I

941
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Speaker 22: think that's the message that something has to be done

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Speaker 22: to stop this cycle. And that requires bold action, that

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Speaker 22: requires steamrolling theseffeckless democrats that seem to love crime for

944
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Speaker 22: some reason, never fully understand it.

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Speaker 1: But something has to be done.

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Speaker 22: The cycle has to be stopped, and we have to

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Speaker 22: make America safe again.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that President Trump moves forward forcefully.

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Speaker 22: James Or from Cambridge with Charlie Kirk in the next hour,

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Speaker 22: don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 27: Thank you Andrew for hosting our one as we kick

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Speaker 27: off for most ambitious tour yet at Utah Valle University.

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Speaker 27: For hour two today, I have another amazing interview for you,

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Speaker 27: but I had a few weeks ago in Aspen with

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Speaker 27: doctor James Or from the University of Cambridge. I think

957
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Speaker 27: you'll really enjoy this email us Freedom at Charliekirk dot com.

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Speaker 27: Watch this, I could say the only conservative professor at

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Speaker 27: Cambridge University, doctor Orr, who is a contributing editor for

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Speaker 27: Heridon Culture at gb News. Doctor James Or, everybody, get

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Speaker 27: to be with you, Charlie, doctor Or.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you.

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Speaker 27: First. I want to just you know, you sat through

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Speaker 27: the presentation. You've been around all of this as a

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Speaker 27: as a brit as a professor. What is your take

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Speaker 27: on this whole thing we have gone on here.

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Speaker 12: Well, I got to say, first off, I was saying

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Speaker 12: to Andrew earlier, it's pretty overwhelming for a brit like

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Speaker 12: me to see the scale of your success and of

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Speaker 12: your ambition, what you've achieved. There's that, you know, lots

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Speaker 12: of lots of students at Cambridge are claim they want

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Speaker 12: to change the world, that they can go into jobs

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Speaker 12: that are going to change the world. And I thought

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Speaker 12: to myself this morning, you really could say that you

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Speaker 12: are changing the world. As America goes, so goes the world,

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Speaker 12: and that's what you're doing. You're doing extraordinary things in

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Speaker 12: transforming America, recalling it to its founding ideals, promoting people

978
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Speaker 12: of caliber and character and courage, particularly among the young.

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Speaker 12: This is a huge problem for us on the right

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Speaker 12: in Britain. We're working very hard on it, and I

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Speaker 12: just felt both envious but also excited because I thought

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Speaker 12: we can we can bottle some courtjuse and take it

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Speaker 12: over to Britain. And we need to work out what

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Speaker 12: the DNA is and we need to try to replicate

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Speaker 12: it as best we can. It's hard to do that,

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Speaker 12: particularly if you're a movement that's focusing on national pride

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Speaker 12: and national distinctiveness and sovereignty and so on. You can't

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Speaker 12: just copy and paste everything that you're doing, of course,

989
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Speaker 12: with a very different constitutional setup, very different electoral dynamics,

990
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Speaker 12: very different challenges in many ways. But I think philosophically

991
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Speaker 12: we're very much there. We're very much on the same page.

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Speaker 12: That is to say, we want to work out what

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Speaker 12: the not so much what the politics of left and

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Speaker 12: right is. I think that's the sort of the politics,

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Speaker 12: the philosophy of the what I call the Long twentieth

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Speaker 12: century nineteen fourteen to twenty sixteen. I think the Long

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Speaker 12: twentieth century ended in twenty sixteen, and the politics of

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Speaker 12: left and right ended in twenty sixteen, and we're now

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Speaker 12: talking about the politics of national preference, the politics of

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Speaker 12: national interest. This is still still kind of shocking to

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Speaker 12: the liberal ear, but this is the direction of travel

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Speaker 12: for the new right on both sides of the Atlantic.

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Speaker 27: So what do you mean by that the long twentieth century?

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Speaker 12: Well, so historians like to talk about this that you know,

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Speaker 12: we periodizing in history is always very very very difficul

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Speaker 12: and you know, it turns out that that human development

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Speaker 12: doesn't always obey neat neat time periods. But of course

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Speaker 12: we know what we mean by the twentieth century. But

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Speaker 12: I think there are these sort of history doesn't quite

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Speaker 12: obey those neat kind of neat neat even divisions. And

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Speaker 12: so historians will sometimes talk about the long nineteenth century

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Speaker 12: that sort of began roughly in eighteen fifteen and probably

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Speaker 12: ended in nineteen fourteen, right, eighteen fifteen Congress of Vienna,

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Speaker 12: and then really you've got this extraordinary period of peace

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Speaker 12: in Europe, and then nineteen fourteen is really the point

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Speaker 12: at which that piece explodes. And so I think also

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Speaker 12: we can talk about the long twentieth century persisting in

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Speaker 12: some ways beyond twenty to twenty sixteen as a fundamental

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Speaker 12: watershed moment in how we think about national flourishing, how

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Speaker 12: we think about politics, how we think about the organizing

1021
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Speaker 12: axes and horizons of national flourishing, of mutual flourishing.

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Speaker 27: Was that Brexit plus Trump? Is that why you think

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Speaker 27: twenty sixteen was the year that began the twenty first century?

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Speaker 12: I think that's right. I think it's all always easy

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Speaker 12: to conflate the two phenomena. They are distinct phenomena in

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Speaker 12: lots of ways, but there's lots of overlaps too, and

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Speaker 12: I think that it really marks a moment of change

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Speaker 12: in the West. And it's very convenient point. It's not

1029
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Speaker 12: just Brexit and Trump, it's also the rise of pro

1030
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Speaker 12: nation national conservative movements all across Europe. You're seeing it

1031
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Speaker 12: with Vaux in Spain, You're seeing it with Jager in Portugal,

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Speaker 12: You're seeing with AfD in Germany. You're seeing it with

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Speaker 12: the Hassean Blemont Nacionale in France, the Feratelli Italia in Australa,

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Speaker 12: you're seeing it in Italy, I'm sorry, and in Austria

1035
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Speaker 12: as well, all over Europe. For deaths in Hungary and

1036
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Speaker 12: going at different speeds. And you know, one of the

1037
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Speaker 12: challenges conservatives are always trying to conserve what is our own,

1038
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Speaker 12: and so it's actually very difficult to form what of

1039
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Speaker 12: the Communists used to have a comm In turn, it's

1040
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Speaker 12: very difficult to have a con intern because you know,

1041
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Speaker 12: Marx could say workers of the World unite, the progressives

1042
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Speaker 12: can say Wokesters of the World unite.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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Speaker 12: It's a fundamentally transnational ideology that's very very powerful. This

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Speaker 12: is a movement something that moves in locks step before

1046
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Speaker 12: conserving our own nations. It's much harder to have that

1047
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Speaker 12: sense of international solidarity. But you know, I think various

1048
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Speaker 12: movements have tried to catalyze that, in the National Conservatism movement,

1049
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Speaker 12: which I'm proudly that the chair of in the UK

1050
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Speaker 12: is helping to do that, and and so yeah, that's

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Speaker 12: that that that's a big challenge.

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Speaker 27: So so what do you think led towards that national

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Speaker 27: conservatism moment? And let's go a step back and also

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Speaker 27: take a moment introduce yourself. You you you teach the

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Speaker 27: Western canon at Cambridge.

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Speaker 1: Correct.

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Speaker 12: I wouldn't say I'm not allowed to teach the Western

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Speaker 12: canon is it would be sort of too big. But

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Speaker 12: give you an example. I teach a program in moral

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Speaker 12: philosophy from Plato through t Nietzsche, that includes Aristotle, that

1061
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Speaker 12: includes August and including Quinas cant Hume, so as much

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Speaker 12: of the kind of classic Western philosophers as I can

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Speaker 12: fit in, and then and then I also teach an

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Speaker 12: mfil program. But but probably speaking, yes, I teach Western

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Speaker 12: philosophers without the but not through the prism and not

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Speaker 12: through the lens of kind of critical theory. I try

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Speaker 12: not to politicize my teaching in any way, of course,

1068
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Speaker 12: that itself is a political act these days, just trying

1069
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Speaker 12: to be neutral, trying to try to listen to these ancient,

1070
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Speaker 12: ancient thinkers on their own terms and not trying to

1071
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Speaker 12: force ideological kind of masks onto them. But yes, I

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Speaker 12: see myself very much, you know, as trying to pass

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Speaker 12: on what is best in the Western tradition. I think

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Speaker 12: really universities have only you know, three primary purposes. That is,

1075
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Speaker 12: to pursue the truth, to preserve the truth, and to

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Speaker 12: pass on the truth. And those are the kind of

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Speaker 12: you know, there's a little bit crude, but those are

1078
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Speaker 12: the kind of the three piece. Those are the sort

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Speaker 12: of three That's the way I sort of think about

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Speaker 12: what I'm doing. So partly it is preserving the best

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Speaker 12: of what has been said and thought in the West,

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Speaker 12: but it's also not wanting to kind of you know,

1083
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Speaker 12: be kind of inert in that, always having that sort

1084
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Speaker 12: of sense of looking forward, testing, always you know, probing,

1085
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Speaker 12: searching for new things, being open into nobilty, open to change,

1086
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Speaker 12: but kind of an could in the great in the

1087
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Speaker 12: great Western tradition.

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Speaker 27: So with that, with that backdrop, post World War two,

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Speaker 27: there was somewhat of a new world order that was established,

1090
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Speaker 27: the neoliberal world order, and it was one that was

1091
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Speaker 27: based on free trade, that was based on both American

1092
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Speaker 27: dominance but also kind of NATO expansionism, international cooperation, some

1093
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Speaker 27: could call it globalism, and liberalism seemed to be an inevitability.

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Speaker 27: The famous book End of History by Francis Fukuyama is

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Speaker 27: what lighteen eighties of not mistake ninety two, okay, nineteen

1096
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Speaker 27: ninety two, where he basically said, this is it, We've

1097
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Speaker 27: reached it, Like all the ideas that have been tried

1098
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Speaker 27: have led us to this moment. Classical liberalism, whatever you

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Speaker 27: want to call it, liberalism is the best it's going

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Speaker 27: to get. And congratulations, humanity. History is over. What happened

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Speaker 27: from Fukiyama in nineteen ninety two to now what you say,

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Speaker 27: twenty sixteen to now where you go from this kind

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Speaker 27: of hubristic, prideful, you know, kind of exaltation of liberalism

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Speaker 27: to a completely different moment right now?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, that book The End of History by Francis

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Speaker 12: And this is particularly, this is what he calls the thumos.

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Speaker 12: This is this is if we think of Plato's like

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Speaker 12: But that thumos is not going anyway. It's not going away.

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Speaker 12: And so I think, you know, the suppression of that

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Speaker 12: love that was never going to be sort of erased

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Speaker 12: We're rooted, we're rooted human beings. We're related to what's

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Speaker 27: But what went wrong with the liberal project?

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Speaker 12: Well, I think the fundamental problem with the liberal project

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Speaker 12: is that it's grounded on fundamentally mistaken assumptions about what

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Speaker 12: it is to be human. The basic idea is that

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Speaker 12: human beings are born into the world with completely independent,

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Speaker 12: completely blank, completely blank slate. This is lots of view

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Speaker 12: of the tabolea arouser or the white page, and we're

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Speaker 12: completely free of all unchosen obligations, and there can be

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Speaker 12: no obligations that we don't ourselves to choose. And this

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Speaker 12: is just a complete fantasy. I don't think it's an

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Speaker 12: accident that the great liberal losses like John Locke and

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Speaker 12: Emmanuel Kant never had any children. Anyone who's had anyone's

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Speaker 12: had a child, or understand that the radical nature of dependency,

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Speaker 12: that most basic bond we're born into the world with

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Speaker 12: that most literally with a physical bond. We're attached to us,

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Speaker 12: a physical bond to our to our mothers. And so

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Speaker 12: that was always going to be a problem. That we're

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Speaker 12: not blank slates. We are connected. We flourish most when

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Speaker 12: we're connected to what is closest to us. That and

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Speaker 12: it's not natural to love what is closest to us.

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Speaker 12: I was in France. I think last month up in

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Speaker 12: the mountains is beautiful shadow addressing some must have been

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Speaker 12: fifty or sixty. I suppose conservative right wing students from

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Speaker 12: all across I think probably you know, twenty five different nations.

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Speaker 12: And I opened. I wasn't quite sure what I was

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Speaker 12: going to say to them. That the organizers hadn't been

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Speaker 12: very clear. So I found myself beginning the session by saying,

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Speaker 12: who here has got the best mum in the world.

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Speaker 12: And every hand went out, and they looked to and

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Speaker 12: they started laughing at each other and I said, notice

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Speaker 12: what you're not doing right now. You're not arguing with

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Speaker 12: each other. You're not discussing what are the proper optimality

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Speaker 12: criteria of being a mother. You're not there would be

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Speaker 12: a crazy, you know, inhuman thing to do. It's a

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Speaker 12: totally natural thing to think that your mum is the

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Speaker 12: best mum in the world. And then I said, who

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Speaker 12: here lives in the best country in the world. And

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Speaker 12: everybody's hands went up. And my point was, I don't

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Speaker 12: owe you an argument for why my country is the

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Speaker 12: best country in the world any more than I owe

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Speaker 12: you an argument for why my mum is the best

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Speaker 12: mum in the world. Somebody who asks for an argument

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Speaker 12: has had what the philosopher Bernard Williams calls one thought

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Speaker 12: too many. That the person who has one thought too

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Speaker 12: many is like the guy the utilitarian. He walks up

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Speaker 12: to the river and he sees two women drowning his

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Speaker 12: wife and strange women, and stops to ask, what if

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Speaker 12: that strange woman might win the Nobel Prize in Public economics.

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Speaker 12: That person has had one thought too many. It is

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Speaker 12: a totally natural disposition of every human to love what

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Speaker 12: is closest to their own aquinas sees. This Aristotle sees

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Speaker 12: is at the beginning one of the greatest works of

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Speaker 12: politics ever written. Book one, page one of Aristotle's Politics,

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Speaker 12: he says, how do we think about how we get on?

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Speaker 12: How do we think about the life of the police?

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Speaker 12: Politica says, well, you know, we're born into the world

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Speaker 12: and we're dependent upon each other, male female, Men and

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Speaker 12: women will bond, then they will have, then they will

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Speaker 12: pro create. There'll be a family, a household, and oikoss.

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Speaker 12: But that won't be enough. That will be enough for

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Speaker 12: daily needs, but it won't be enough. First of you know,

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Speaker 12: non date more than daily needs. So you'll have a village,

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Speaker 12: and the village will come together, but that won't be

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Speaker 12: enough either. You will need to grow into a police

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Speaker 12: for self defense and so on, a city state as

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Speaker 12: it were, a country, a nation, and that Aristotle things, okay,

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Speaker 12: that's for pretty small in fifth fourth century BC Greece.

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Speaker 12: But but that was the functioning, that was the way

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Speaker 12: will get fulfill Uh that that that proper ends as

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Speaker 12: human beings. And I think that's still the basic way

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Speaker 12: of thinking about things. I think it's it's really what

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Speaker 12: you see in Aquinas. I think it's what you see

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Speaker 12: in the Bible as well.

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Speaker 27: Wow, that's there's so much there top to to think about.

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Speaker 27: So let's go. Let's let's pull one of those threads,

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Speaker 27: which is that all the French young people that at

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Speaker 24: Carolina now facing a federal charge of committing an act

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Speaker 24: causing death on a mass transportation system. Attorney General Pam

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Speaker 24: Bondi says her department will seek the maximum penalty possible.

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Speaker 14: This is obviously a horrible, horrible situation. But this is

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Speaker 14: why federal statutes exist.

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Speaker 25: They exist to take care of situations like this, because

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Speaker 25: no one should sit in fear when they sit on

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Speaker 25: the light rail. If you sit in fear on the

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Speaker 25: light rail, you sit in fear when you walk around

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Speaker 25: the streets of our center city like I do every day.

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Speaker 25: You sit in fear when you go to our parks

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Speaker 25: like I do with my daughter every weekend. You sit

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Speaker 25: at restaurants, at our museums. These are all the things

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Speaker 25: I'm here to tell you the federal government is going

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Speaker 27: slash charlie. How did that happen? World War Two? With

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Speaker 27: the West one right, and now we look in twenty

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Speaker 27: twenty five, Europe is an unrecognizable continent in more ways

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Speaker 27: than one.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right, and we would it

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Speaker 12: would take a very very kind of long, long conversation

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Speaker 12: to really get to the bottom of a bit. I mean,

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Speaker 12: one book i'd really recommend on this is actually buy

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Speaker 12: an American Christopher Caldwell, Reflections on the Revolution in Europe.

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Speaker 12: This is actually goes way back. It's two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 12: which is a long time considering what's happened in the

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Speaker 12: intervening period. But I think Caldwell really sort of as

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Speaker 12: an incredibly prescient book and he starts to see the

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Speaker 12: kind of the sort of conditions of the unraveling kind

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Speaker 12: of kicking in. And you're right. You know, after the

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Speaker 12: Second World War, the French had what they called the

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Speaker 12: tont Glorias, the thirty glorious years.

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Speaker 1: In Germany.

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Speaker 12: You have a East in West Germany, you have the

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Speaker 12: vis chap under you know, this economic miracle, this extraordinary

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Speaker 12: explosion of economic flourishing and national self confidence in West Germany.

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Speaker 12: And I suppose, you know, nineteen eighty nine has got

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Speaker 12: to feature somehow in the story of Europe's decline or

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Speaker 12: Europe's sort of wants that, you know, the great bugbear

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Speaker 12: of the Soviet Union and that great enemy of freedom

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Speaker 12: everywhere had been dissolved. Then I think there was a

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Speaker 12: sense of, well, you know, before that, there was a

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Speaker 12: sense of what are we for? We know what we're for,

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Speaker 12: We're for freedom, and this is something that is pretty uncomplicated,

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Speaker 12: and it's going to stitch us together as a kind

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Speaker 12: of as the West, it was easy to think about

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Speaker 12: the West, and it was easy to think about the rest.

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Speaker 12: And I think after, you know, nineteen eighty nine into

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Speaker 12: the nineteen nineties, oh the Wall, that the fall of

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Speaker 12: the Wall in a way sort of starts to mark

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Speaker 12: the beginning of the kind of questioning what are we about?

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Speaker 12: What is our story? What are we for? As a

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Speaker 12: fascinating moment in two thousand and four, when the European

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Speaker 12: Union is trying to work out a constitution, in the

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Speaker 12: end it fails because it can't agree on anything really

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Speaker 12: and there's a huge debate about what goes in the

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Speaker 12: preamble of the constitution, like where do we how do

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Speaker 12: we set out right at the beginning of constitution we

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Speaker 12: the European Union? Who are we? What makes us we?

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Speaker 12: What makes us a we? They said, well, our Hellenic inheritance,

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Speaker 12: Greece and Rome, the classical inheritance, yes, the Enlightenment inheritance

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Speaker 12: as well. No mention of the Hebreak or the Christian inheritance.

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Speaker 12: This was seen to be something that was, you know,

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Speaker 12: low status, not something that wanted to be admitted. John

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Speaker 12: Paul the Second is right towards the end of his

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Speaker 12: live two thousand and four and got got involved in

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Speaker 12: Italian politicians got involved. There's a huge fight about it,

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Speaker 12: and in the end the decision was, no, we're not

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Speaker 12: going to have any recognition of the fact that the

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Speaker 12: European Union is in any way at all the successor

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Speaker 12: to what it really was a successor to, namely Christendom

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Speaker 12: and the Holy Roman Empire, and that which stitched Europe

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Speaker 12: together as a sort of self conscious collective entity that

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Speaker 12: was gone. And I don't want to overstate that too much,

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Speaker 12: but I think that it was an indicator an index

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Speaker 12: into the way in which the Europeans were beginning to

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Speaker 12: run out of a sense of who are we, what

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Speaker 12: are we for? Where do we come from? And then,

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Speaker 12: of course, with the emergence of the kind of technocratic,

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Speaker 12: democratically unaccountable potent in parliament in Brussels and Strasbourg, the

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Speaker 12: parliament is in both places. Wait for this, for one

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Speaker 12: hundred million, one hundred million years a year, the European

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Speaker 12: Parliament moves from Brussels to Strasbourg. I think it's every

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Speaker 12: fortnight back and forth.

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Speaker 27: How long is a fortnite?

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Speaker 12: Sorry too, you didn't have fortnits over here for it's

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Speaker 12: fourteen days, two weeks. We do, are just trying to fortnite,

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Speaker 12: so two and it just just to think about they

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Speaker 12: can't kind of couldn't resolve something as basic as that, But.

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Speaker 27: They moved back and forth.

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Speaker 12: They moved back and forth. Yeah, just so the Belgian's hat,

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Speaker 12: you know, the kind of Franco German pact is happy.

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Speaker 12: And then the sort of you know the idea of

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Speaker 12: there being a European union beyond the Franco German alliance.

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Speaker 12: So that's that's what you get when you go to Brussels,

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Speaker 12: so all these crazy things, crazy sort of features of

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Speaker 12: the kind of European settlement, and there's a kind of

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Speaker 12: democratic deficit, you might say. I used to play this

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Speaker 12: parlor game when I was now at Cambridge. I was

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Speaker 12: at Oxford in twenty sixteen, just ahead of the Brexit vote,

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Speaker 12: and one of the parlor games I would play with

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Speaker 12: my I was the only out of the closet Brexiteer

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Speaker 12: as far as I know, in the whole of this college,

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Speaker 12: among I don't know, I think about seventy eighty colleagues,

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Speaker 12: and I used to ask them, who's our NEP, who's

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Speaker 12: our member of the European Parliament, like which who represents us?

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Speaker 12: Who represents Oxford and the surrounding areas in Brussels, Strasbourg?

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Speaker 12: And no one can answer. No one, No one knew,

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Speaker 12: not even the professors of politics. And there was no

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Speaker 12: reason for them to know, because it's a fake. It

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Speaker 12: was a fake. It was and is a fake parliament

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Speaker 12: with very little powers, very very little few veto powers,

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Speaker 12: very few powers of it to initiate legislation. Nobody voted

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Speaker 12: for them, nobody had any reason to know who they were,

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Speaker 12: and so that has been a huge problem that kind

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Speaker 12: of the sort of the European Union project has been,

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Speaker 12: you know, from nineteen ninety two onwards, where it really

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Speaker 12: became a self consciously political union and not just an

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Speaker 12: economic and trade one. That's really been it's been a disaster.

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Speaker 12: And I hoped that in twenty sixteen Brexit would be

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Speaker 12: the first brick in the wall, but it would, it

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Speaker 12: would catalyze a kind of domino effect. It was probably

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Speaker 12: wishful thinking because particularly in the Euro here in the

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Speaker 12: euro nations, you know, it's one thing for Britain, with

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Speaker 12: its own pound, its own currency, to break away, it

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Speaker 12: would be a much more dramatic there'd be much more

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Speaker 12: dramatic consequences of if a euro country split away. But

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Speaker 12: the Europe has been a disaster for the countries who

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Speaker 12: have been members of it. I mean Italy for example,

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 12: has scarcely had any GDP growth. I think it started

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 12: to pick up recently, but really for the first twenty

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Speaker 12: years of its being part of the Euro efectively nothing

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Speaker 12: at all. Greece and Spain youth unemployment was through the roof. Effectively,

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Speaker 12: you know, you've got the you know, the Spanish currencies

1480
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Speaker 12: of Greek currency effectively being shackled to the German deutsch Mark,

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Speaker 12: and so the Germans weren't complaining because the currencies was

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Speaker 12: artificially depreciated to their exports more attractive. And so it

1483
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 12: was all this kind of elaborate Ponzi scheme which at

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Speaker 12: some point is going to unravel. And then somehow, you know,

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01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,839
Speaker 12: ideologically within the elite forming classes in Oxford and Cambridge

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Speaker 12: and London, certainly in Britain, you know, the idea is

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Speaker 12: that to be European was to be part of the

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Speaker 12: European Union, that those two are absolutely part and parcel,

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Speaker 12: and I never understood this. You know, you can hate

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Speaker 12: FIFA and love football as I as I've often said,

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01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 12: you know, or soccer, I should say, you can hate

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01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 12: FIFA like the Worldwide Organization for Soccer, and you can

1493
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 12: and you can love soccer. In fact, you can hate.

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01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 12: I hate FIFA because because I love football, I don't

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01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 12: like what FIFA is doing to international football. I don't

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 12: like the corruption. I want the game to be a

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Speaker 12: richer game. And I think that it's the same with

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 12: the European Union, and it's had this sort of deadly

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Speaker 12: effect on our sense of what it is to be

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Speaker 12: European What.

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Speaker 27: Explains the hyper secularization of Europe post World War Two?

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01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 27: Why did we see such a dramatic drop off of

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01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 27: church rates? Is it as simple as they saw tragedy

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01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 27: and suffering and nihilism took the void?

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01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:18,439
Speaker 7: What?

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01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 17: What?

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01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 27: Because Europe has had depressingly low church rates and they

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01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 27: just keep on finding new lows every decade. Where what

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01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 27: percentage of people in Europe do you think regularly attend church?

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Speaker 12: It varies quite a bit from country to country, but

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 12: it is shockingly low relative to certainly relative to the

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 12: United States. So you know, in Italy it's it's now

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 12: very very very low. I think it's it's certainly well

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01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 12: below five percent. I mean, you know, religious adherence is

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01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 12: just a very difficult thing to measure, you know, is

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 12: actually going to church? Does it?

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Speaker 17: Does it?

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01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 12: Does it counts as sort of being a Christian or

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 12: being being a church go you know in Britain, you

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01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 12: know what what caused it? I mean it may be

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01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 12: the opposite, I think. I think I'm more tempted to

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 12: the analysis that actually it's prosperity and flourishing, particularly material

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01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 12: flourishing and prosperity that tends to catalyze a sort of

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 12: collapse in the sense of any need for meaning or

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Speaker 12: any orientation to the transcendent. I suppose also in the

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Speaker 12: sixties you're seeing the emergence of competing systems of meaning,

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Speaker 12: competing accounts of what it is to have significance, competing

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Speaker 12: sets of answers to lives deepest questions. We see that

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Speaker 12: a lot of that imported from California and elsewhere. And

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Speaker 12: I suppose the sort of something you know, there's something

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Speaker 12: fashionable about religious skepticism that was certainly true in the sixties.

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Speaker 12: If you think back, you know, to the high noon

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Speaker 12: of the New Atheists in two thousand and five, you know,

1534
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Speaker 12: there was something very, very sort of elite. There was

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Speaker 12: something very a lot of cachet in being an atheist.

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Speaker 12: And I'm tempted to think that New atheism was just

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Speaker 12: a politically correct way to be skeptical of Islam. I

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01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 12: think that the timing works quite well there. But I

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Speaker 12: think if you look in the last few years, and

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Speaker 12: I just saw some data out from from Britain this morning,

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Speaker 12: you know, I think between eighteen to thirty five year olds,

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Speaker 12: belief in God has tripled over the last five years.

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Speaker 12: Bible purchases has gone up by eighty seven percent over

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Speaker 12: four years. Now it's from a pretty low, bait low base,

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Speaker 12: but something is happening out there. You know, it's still

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Speaker 12: you know, it's quite it's still quite small. But the

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Speaker 12: numbers among among gen z or gen z as you

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Speaker 12: call them, that some from gen Z. Well, because that

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Speaker 12: z is how you pronounced the letter in English. And

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Speaker 12: I know you Americans have a different way of putting it, but.

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Speaker 27: No, it's just it's interesting. So let's now, let's now

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Speaker 27: take our attention to your country, which I had the

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Speaker 27: opportunity to visit, and you hosted us wonderfully in Cambridge.

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Speaker 27: Great to have quite quite quite the ambush, so not

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Speaker 27: by you, but by Cambridge. But we survived that more

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Speaker 27: than survived. Yeah, I think we triumphed, some could say,

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Speaker 27: and so and you were so sweet and so kind

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Speaker 27: throughout that entire process. So the United Kingdom or Britain

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Speaker 27: or England, whatever were we want to want to give,

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Speaker 27: give to give it. Vote for Braxitt in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 27: Where are British politics today? What is the status of

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Speaker 27: British politics? Yeah, well it's a great question, you know.

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Speaker 27: In twenty sixteen, we have this extraordinary expression of the

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Speaker 27: democratic will in seventeen point four six million people voting

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Speaker 27: for the principle that laws affecting the United Kingdom should

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Speaker 27: be made in the United Kingdom and should be accountable

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Speaker 27: to the people and the voters of the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 27: It's a very just, you know, seemingly an entirely uncontroversial principle.

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Speaker 27: But it was the biggest vote of we've had in

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Speaker 27: the history in British voting history. And another key driver

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Speaker 27: there was the sense of we're losing our sense, We're

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Speaker 27: losing what it is to use the first person plural,

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Speaker 27: as Roger Scrutin, one of my favorite philosophers, likes to.

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Speaker 12: Put it, that sense of we we the people, what

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Speaker 12: is it that makes a wei? And I think what

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Speaker 12: was going on in Brexit was this kind of inco

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Speaker 12: eight kind of cry that we are losing that sense of.

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Speaker 17: Who we are.

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Speaker 12: That every time, for the last forty to fifty years,

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Speaker 12: every time the British people have had an opportunity to

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Speaker 12: express a view on mass demographic change and transition, it

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Speaker 12: has said no, or go much slower.

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Speaker 2: It's a human, but therefore they should have human rights.

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Speaker 27: It's about like this because you only care about yourself,

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Speaker 27: You answer that question every single day. You are doing

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Speaker 7: A lot of people.

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Speaker 12: And every time its leaders have effectively ignored those that

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Speaker 12: clearly expressed will. And I think twenty sixteen was a

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Speaker 12: moment where suddenly it looked as if we might have

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Speaker 12: the opportunity to finally regain control of our laws and

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Speaker 12: regain control of our borders at the same time. What

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Speaker 12: actually happened in the last five years, one in what

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Speaker 12: have we had is one in twenty seven people in

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Speaker 12: Britain have arrived in the last five years. One in

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Speaker 12: sixty arrived in the last eighteen months in the first

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Speaker 12: twenty five years of this century, gross migration, gross immigration

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Speaker 12: talking twelve to fifteen million people. That's roughly four to

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Speaker 12: five times as many people who arrived on our shows

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Speaker 12: in the first thousand years of our history. It's difficult

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Speaker 12: to overstate. And I know you've had you know, you've

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Speaker 12: had enormous influxes too under the Biden administration. But you're

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Speaker 12: a much bigger You've got a much bigger territory, and

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Speaker 12: you've got a different kinds of different kind of categories

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Speaker 12: of migrants coming in, and you've at last got an

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Speaker 12: administration that's willing to do something about it. But this,

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Speaker 12: praise God for that. And indeed and that has had

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Speaker 12: that has had a profoundly kind of traumatic shock on

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Speaker 12: us Brits and it's had a kind of tectonic effect

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Speaker 12: on the landscape of British politics. So what's happening in

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Speaker 12: British politics? Well, quick update. Last year July twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 12: we saw the Loveless landslide, So we see the Starmer

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Speaker 12: GOV getting an astonishing one hundred and seventy five odd

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Speaker 12: seats of majority in Parliament, which is an enormous, enormous

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Speaker 12: majority and one of the biggest in living memory, on

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Speaker 12: only twenty percent of the vote twenty percent of the

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Speaker 12: people eligible to vote, something like thirty four percent of

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Speaker 12: the vote share. It was you know, the sofa one,

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Speaker 12: I mean, the couch won that election. It was a

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Speaker 12: very low, very low turnout. Nobody it was an apathetic election.

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Speaker 12: Nobody seemed to care. Fast forward now, you know, we

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Speaker 12: were just over a year in back in the first

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Speaker 12: of May of this year, we had the local elections

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Speaker 12: whe which are a pretty good proxy. It's a bit

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Speaker 12: like the midterms and not a bad proxy for what

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Speaker 12: the country's mood in it is, and I think you know,

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Speaker 12: Labor gets goes from thirty four percent to twenty percent,

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Speaker 12: The Conservative Party goes down to fifteen percent, extinction level,

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Speaker 12: almost an unprecedented low. And for the first time in

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Speaker 12: one hundred years, a new party emerges, a third party

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Speaker 12: to the duopoly that's had Britain in its grip since

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Speaker 12: nineteen twenty nineteen twenty three, and that is Nigel Farage's

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Speaker 12: Reform UK, which surged through to win six hundred and

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Speaker 12: seventy seven local seats, which if you extrapolate that out,

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Speaker 12: is thirty percent of the electorate. That's an ex They

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Speaker 12: were at fourteen percent a year ago, and that that's

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Speaker 12: going up and up and up. And what you're seeing

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Speaker 12: for the first time in the history of British politics

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Speaker 12: since there have been political parties, let's say, the Tories

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01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 12: are emerging like the sixteen seventies, sixteen eighties and really

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Speaker 12: kind of bedding down in their modern form in the

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Speaker 12: eighteen thirties. For the first time in the history of

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Speaker 12: British politics, there is another right wing party emerging, another

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Speaker 12: Conservative party. That is it looks as if, in my view,

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Speaker 12: we'll have to see what happens next May with some

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Speaker 12: more proxy elections, and then there'll be a general election

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Speaker 12: in twenty twenty nine. The last point that Kirstamer can

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Speaker 12: call it. But my sense is that Nigel Farage is

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Speaker 12: on track to be the next Prime Minister of the

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Speaker 12: United Kingdom.

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Speaker 27: That's that deserves some applause. So let's examine that deeper

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Speaker 27: and more thoroughly. Some people in the audience will hear wait, wait,

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Speaker 27: hold on, the Conservative Party, don't we like them? Explain

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Speaker 27: what a concert what it means to be part of

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Speaker 27: the Conservative Party. That's not exactly you know, Let's say

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Speaker 27: the equivalent that we would have here in the United

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Speaker 27: States of what we consider to be a conservative.

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Speaker 12: Yes, that's right, I mean, but even here, I suppose

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Speaker 12: in the States, there are lots and lots of fascinating

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Speaker 12: debates within the GP, within the Republican Party. Is to you,

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Speaker 12: what is it to be a conservative?

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Speaker 27: You know?

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Speaker 12: Is it to be Reagan Night, Is it to be

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Speaker 12: a fusionist? Is it to be a trumpst Is it

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Speaker 12: to be a kind of compassionate bush Eite conservative? Whatever

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Speaker 12: it might be.

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Speaker 27: Is okay, I'll recap my Utah Valley tour stop for

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Speaker 27: you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you.

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Speaker 27: Guys watch God Blessed talk to you that

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Speaker 20: Its great