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Speaker 1: even when Harmon's not thrilled because oh boy, tonight it's

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Speaker 1: a big next night. But you know, we only go

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Speaker 1: to the Conference finals once every twenty five years.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, just not loud.

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Speaker 1: I was having my Ross Geller moment to go back

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Speaker 1: in the pop culture time machine of celebrate but guys,

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Speaker 1: and then he motioned to kind of keep it down.

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Speaker 2: It just got loudly. It got very loudly. Indeed, when

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Speaker 1: There were no breaks because the Celtics put up no resistance,

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Speaker 1: and then it was highlight after highlight. I was being

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Speaker 2: It's it's like this, this is loud, like this is.

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Speaker 1: Like when my kids were little and they just start

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Speaker 1: banging pots because my mom didn't want to chase them

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Speaker 1: around here. Occupy yourself, say why did you give them pots?

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Speaker 2: Playing chilling?

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Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like, you know, speaking of kids.

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Speaker 1: I got because I gotta tell you this, right, I

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Speaker 1: So you know, all the big Knicks fans that that

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Speaker 1: loves Shallow May. All her friends love Shallow May. My

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Speaker 1: daughter is big into acting and singing and writing and everything.

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Speaker 1: right when we said, okay, what's the schedule like tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: I'm leaving it, you know, five whatever it is getting tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: she goes, oh, right, right right, the Knicks are playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She goes, ah, I hope they win.

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Speaker 3: And I didn't say.

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Speaker 1: Anything, and I said, she said, I hope they win

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Speaker 3: And I said, hang on, and I almost pulled the

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Speaker 1: I said, wait, I said, did you just say you

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Speaker 1: Not, you hope they win for your dad, who's been

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Speaker 1: Knicks lose every game by twenty. You don't want it

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Speaker 1: you're right. I hope they win for Shallow May too.

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Speaker 1: I almost is like, you can go live with somebody else.

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Speaker 1: I can go Shallomey can come live with us. You

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Speaker 3: Us and stay.

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Speaker 1: I hope they win for Shallow may Red. What it's

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Speaker 1: Like today I'm leaving. She goes, what do you I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But but the fact that she asked, like it's really

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Speaker 2: There's some interest there.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise it's bocking my squads because if it shows up

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Speaker 3: For chalam, do you even think about me?

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Speaker 1: Think about me, the the the investment that I put

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Speaker 1: You don't think about me first s, But you're in

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Speaker 1: It's the picture of from off the shows when they

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Speaker 1: It's kind so it's kind of like the Sun, Mercury

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Speaker 1: there there, let's go there right now, Captain Piet, we're

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Speaker 1: You haven't been downgrade.

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Speaker 2: What was it?

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Speaker 3: Keep going back? What was it took?

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Speaker 1: Like oh, ad Astra where they went to Uranus and

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Speaker 1: it took like oh no, Neptune, Neptune, Neptune. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can get the net dream like

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Speaker 1: seth rogen I had comedy. I don't think you can

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Speaker 1: to Neptune whatever, or passengers where it's like it's five

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Speaker 1: hundred years and about Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence are gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, have some kind of garden growing at the end,

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Speaker 1: and they're the only ones awake.

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Speaker 3: I will have to.

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Speaker 2: Find it at some point.

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Speaker 1: I read a review that started with the first paragraph

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Speaker 1: just said don't And I never saw passengers. I never

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Speaker 1: normally I trust their sensibilities, right, Pratt funny, can go

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Speaker 2: So normally you pair those together. I'll get on board

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: I saw the don't like all right, I believe you

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Speaker 2: But he's got inside the he's at night terrors whatever.

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Speaker 1: He wakes up somehow he wakes up and he's lonely,

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Speaker 1: so he wakes up Jennifer Lawrence and and doesn't tell

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Speaker 1: I'll say, and I'm going, so she gets mad and

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Speaker 3: Know, I get they were mad, but why didn't they

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, whatever, who do we who do you

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Speaker 4: Let's have this guy. Guy looks like he could be

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Speaker 4: Let's wake this guy up. Let's wake this guy up.

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Speaker 4: And this guy and this guy and all right, that's great,

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Speaker 4: wake him up, I'm men, look at him. He ain't

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Speaker 2: It's a long time, all right, We're here, That's what

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Speaker 1: We can't we can only play so many games of

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Speaker 1: war with the dec and cards that I owned over here. Well, look,

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Speaker 1: the Knicks aspect of this, we will have more, continually,

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Speaker 1: have more on today. We're gonna check in with Nicks

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Speaker 1: insider John Schmiel coming up in a few minutes. Who's

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Speaker 1: at Madison Square Garden for this game.

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Speaker 2: I have to get you another newspaper now. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, sent me, uh sent you to give

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Speaker 1: to me the back page of the Knicks of the

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Speaker 1: New York Post from the other day, the real live copy,

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Speaker 2: Flip it over to the top.

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Speaker 1: He got that too, I got, yeah, I got the

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Speaker 1: wicked good then back page of the Post. The front

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Speaker 1: page of the Post on the bridges steel from Tatum.

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Speaker 1: You know when Tatum was.

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Speaker 2: Playing, uh but for the Celtics. I know, I know.

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Speaker 1: Look, but he didn't tap out like all the Celtics tonight.

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Speaker 1: We will have more on the Knicks part, obviously going

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Speaker 1: on and and winning and what this means for them.

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Speaker 1: But for the Celtics for a few minutes, right, like,

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Speaker 1: they're the champs last year and it looked like the

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Speaker 1: era of and this shows you how tenuous things are

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, because the Celtics win and they're set up, right,

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Speaker 1: they're they're set up. You have Tatum has become a star,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown is a star.

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Speaker 2: You're paying him.

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Speaker 1: Derek White's a guy that's incredibly valuable. Peyton Pritchey want

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Speaker 1: Knicks Celtics burial in Game six preview, the Eastern Conference files.

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Speaker 1: Who should be meeting in the NBA Finals? Nix and

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Speaker 3: I can relax. The Knicks are in the finals.

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Speaker 1: Relax for a few days until Wednesday night. I can

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Speaker 3: How is anger? Management? Training?

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Speaker 1: They will take on the Pacers after their burial of

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Speaker 5: shots to start the third knicks down's right back, they

437
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,320
Speaker 5: got a bit you know, forty and then guys, that

438
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 5: was it. You know, it was Badulla pulled everyone and man,

439
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,920
Speaker 5: just what a game. And again it's I don't think

440
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 5: fans understand how I mean they do, but if you

441
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,720
Speaker 5: the root for the next how bad the last twenty

442
00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 5: five years have been, or at least twenty the last

443
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 5: twenty five years watching you know, Ron Baker and Kyle O'Quinn,

444
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,480
Speaker 5: who was probably one of the better guys he got

445
00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 5: to watch. I mean, my gosh, Alexi sid who Knicks

446
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 5: fans were in love with Damian Boxon my gosh, go

447
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:59,240
Speaker 5: through the list. It was bad, David Fizdale's regime, Larry Brown,

448
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,600
Speaker 5: for my god, I say it, Thomas, it's as bad

449
00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 5: as it was the lowest of the lows. And to

450
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 5: finally get to see this in that building for a night,

451
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 5: it was a blast and it was so much fun.

452
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Speaker 1: So as we look at the squad because Jason and

453
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: I were really celebrating, and I did so maybe a

454
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Speaker 1: little muted because my guy's been at volume. You know,

455
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: you turn it to eleven on spinal tap. He broke

456
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Speaker 1: the knob off John. I mean, there's there's just there's

457
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: just no about it. But all of that, with the

458
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,719
Speaker 1: defense still up thirty, still challenging plays, all of that,

459
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 1: it's like, I like it. The uh I believe you

460
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Speaker 1: actually said, you know, don't don't get off their necks,

461
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: and they didn't.

462
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 5: They didn't. They did not lay it off. And look,

463
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Speaker 5: if this team can play like that defensively the rest

464
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 5: of this postseason, they can win an NBA championship if

465
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Speaker 5: they can keep that level of intensity on defense. Carl

466
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 5: Anthony Towns was locked in. Boys, you do not see

467
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 5: that very often from non defense. That dude was locked in.

468
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: If he can play like that for two more rounds,

469
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 5: the Knicks can win a championship. That's not hyperbolic, that's facts.

470
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 5: That's where we're at. This team has not played that

471
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 5: way consistently this year. They've been maddeningly inconsistent. But if

472
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Speaker 5: you can bring that type of effort defensively here, the

473
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Speaker 5: Knicks can be NBA champions in the Year of Our

474
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Speaker 5: Lord twenty twenty five.

475
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Speaker 3: The Knicks are here to save the playoffs.

476
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Speaker 1: John, They're here to save the playoffs because we got

477
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Speaker 1: Minnesota and maybe Oklahoma City and the Pacer.

478
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Speaker 2: The Knicks are here to save the playoffs.

479
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Speaker 5: Well wait, you're telling me Mike Silver doesn't want in Indiana,

480
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 5: Minnesota or Indiana Oklahoma City NBA finals, but you said

481
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Speaker 5: not have only luck on this planet since the u

482
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Speaker 5: A lottery. They have that zero luck. They've gotten no

483
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 5: help to start pulling some strakes. Baby, you gotta get

484
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 5: the big ball get into the finals. Adam siliverthon what'll hey, that's.

485
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Speaker 3: It one a week, it's been well, look at where

486
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Speaker 3: we're at.

487
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Speaker 1: John, Listen, it's already gonna be a Knicks final four.

488
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a Hallmark Christmas movie because it's

489
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Speaker 1: the Knicks and the Pacers who are synonymous with the

490
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Speaker 1: Knicks in the playoffs, Randall and de Vincenzo and probably Hartenstein.

491
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Speaker 3: It's an entirely Knicks final fourth.

492
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: It's everything we need right now.

493
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 5: Look, bitch goes back to the nineties and Nick Pacers,

494
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 5: where they've kind of went back and forth, like neither

495
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,239
Speaker 5: team dominated in the nineties. One year the Pacers would win,

496
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 5: then the Knicks would win. Well, guess what, boys, Payback's

497
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 5: a bitch here, cuts and nick and lots of the faces.

498
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 5: Last year Kyrie Halliburn. Look, he's a really good player,

499
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 5: but he is such a perfect like sequel to Reggie Miller.

500
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Speaker 5: He's lanky, he's skinny, he fires three, he's annoying, he

501
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 5: swamps heavy. He's like Riggy Miller, not as good, but reincarnated.

502
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 5: This could not be. It's just it's the nineties all

503
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Speaker 5: over again, and it's gonna be so much fun. But

504
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 5: you're right, Look whoever gets out of the West that

505
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 5: if you're a Knicks fan, I would root for the

506
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Speaker 5: Denver Nuggets. I want no part, no part of the

507
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Speaker 5: Oklahoma City Thunder. So if I'm a Knick fan, I

508
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 5: root for Denver. Maybe you guys disagree, but look, that

509
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 5: was a hell of an effort. And Guys, I can't

510
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Speaker 5: believe I'm saying that the Knicks have a real chance

511
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Speaker 5: to win an NBA title this year. I can't believe

512
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 5: I'm saying it on the radio, dre millions of people.

513
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 5: But them's are the facts, boys, and you know I

514
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 5: love that.

515
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Speaker 1: Well, all Knicks like you and I. We're all celebrating

516
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: like we won the title. They're climbing lightholes. We're all

517
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 1: talking about who the Knicks are going to play in

518
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Speaker 1: the finals, and it's like they've been to there. We

519
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: gotten out of two rounds of the playoffs that but

520
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: it's like we won the whole thing tonight.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look like I said, that's why when the first quares, Boys,

522
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 5: you ask me, and what I say, there's still work

523
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 5: to do. You did not put this team together to

524
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 5: win two rounds in the playoffs. You put this team

525
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 5: together to win an NBA championship. But there's a realistic

526
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 5: window here. You know, the Knicks finisher the day at home.

527
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: The Nicks have a home court advantage in the Eastern

528
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 5: Conference titles.

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Speaker 6: A second boy, all right, And by the way, if

530
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Speaker 6: the Timberwolves go to the finals, you know who's gonna

531
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Speaker 6: have the home court advantage in the NBA Finals two?

532
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Speaker 6: You're New York next.

533
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Speaker 5: So this is real. There's work to do. They have

534
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 5: to keep playing well, but there is enjoy the series win.

535
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Speaker 5: Plenty of work to do, but this is real. You know,

536
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 5: I'm always won the poor cold water on stuff. I'm

537
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 5: very realistic. I've seen too much. You guys have seen

538
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 5: too much as Nick fans. It always goes wrong. They

539
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 5: have a real shot here, what is real?

540
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Speaker 1: I gotta ask the obvious question first, John Dan Smith,

541
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: you'll just punch me, is uh? You know, after the

542
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: euphoria wears off and you punch yourself out and you

543
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: go to sleep, how soon did the nightmares of Reggie

544
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Miller come back?

545
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 5: You think we're gonna sleep, Well, eventually you're gonna pass out.

546
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a it's a natural. Hey, I'm

547
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: going to bad thing. Eventually, your body's just gonna collapse somewhere.

548
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: Hey, look here, here's the thing about Reggie Miller. Reggie

549
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 5: Miller had some really awesome moments against the Knicks. The

550
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 5: Knicks also had some really awesome moments against Reggie Miller.

551
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 5: They knocked him out of the playoffs more than once

552
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 5: in the nineties. So yes, Reggie got the Knicks a

553
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 5: couple of times, and a couple of times in heartbreaking fashion.

554
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 5: But you know the Knicks beat to go to the

555
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 5: NBA finals four Pacers boys. So yeah, Reggie Miller, you

556
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 5: hate him, he's tired's the worst, but Nick beat him

557
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 5: and now it's time to be pry. Tyler Barton too.

558
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: Mix inside of John Smilkey.

559
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter, hatch ilk you can find them there

560
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: are at the top of any kind of light pole

561
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 1: somewhere in the New Jersey metropolitan area. After the wind tonight, John,

562
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you during the

563
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: East Finals.

564
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna land in New Jersey.

565
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 6: I'm talking.

566
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 5: The Conference finals. Let's do it.

567
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,719
Speaker 2: Mix Insider like Mix Insider, Let's go. I mean, I mean,

568
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: it was great. And now it's in between the.

569
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Speaker 1: Go to sleep when the knickser hoists and Hilario O'Brien trophy.

570
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: Uh Now, I realize this is a little bit of hyperbole. Okay,

571
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of hyperbole because but going into

572
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: this city, you know, thinking about this the last com

573
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, honestly, I was thinking about this

574
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: coming into work tonight as as I'm listening and the

575
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Knicks are just pouring it on the Celtics and I'm beeping,

576
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: laying on my horn, I'm banging my horn and I'm

577
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: screaming in my car up until tonight.

578
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 2: Did you cause that accident delayed me at your twenty bars?

579
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: You know I did not.

580
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: Thinking about this right in my lifetime. Okay, Patrick Ewing

581
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: has been the greatest nick all right, hall of Famer,

582
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: got the Knicks to two finals, multiple All Stars, right,

583
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, failed a little bit like I keep thinking

584
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: of showing that miss in the Eastern Conference Finals in

585
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: ninety five when he just finger rolled it out.

586
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 2: Fuer rolls, I mean dunked the ball.

587
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 3: But Patterwing.

588
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing generally has been viewed as the greatest Nick.

589
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: I mean sanity lin Sanity had those couple of weeks.

590
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: He had a few weeks that was going.

591
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: He didn't make it his number two. He didn't even

592
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: make it to the end of the season.

593
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: I realized this is now the first time that Brunson

594
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: has even gotten the Knicks as far as the Eastern

595
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: Conference Finals. But you know, thinking back, you know, hey,

596
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Ewing brought the Knicks out of absolute obscurity. They were

597
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: terrible for so long. Bent up envelope showed up. It

598
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: wasn't bent. It was cold, Okay, just it wasn't bent.

599
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't there.

600
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: It was low cold, it was cold. It was cold.

601
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 3: It was really really cold.

602
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: I can't touch this, but uh, quite honestly, now, if

603
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: you ask Knicks fans who's the greatest Nick of all time,

604
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: they'll all tell you Jalen Brunson, little bit prisoner of

605
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: the moment, but also a little bit of the Knicks,

606
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: bringing the big Knicks back from obscurity over the last years,

607
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: when they had all kinds of stars come in to

608
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: try to do it right, then all kinds.

609
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: Of stars come in.

610
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: Can we do it? Can we make it? And Jalen

611
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: Brunson has done this. He's taken less money. He is.

612
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: He is more beloved in it as an by Knicks

613
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: fans than Ewing ever was.

614
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: Ewing was great, but it was ah.

615
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: We fell short in the finals here, we fell short

616
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: in the finals here, and really the one finals we

617
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: could have won twenty five years ago. He tears his

618
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: achilles when we could have beaten the Spurs, but that

619
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't his fault. But Brunson has been

620
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: able to persevere and lead the team past where anybody

621
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: thought they could.

622
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: You has to. He is.

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Speaker 1: He is the He is the greatest Nick of all

624
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: time right now. He's the greatest, but there's a couple

625
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: of things that also go into it. I mean, Ewing

626
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: was notoriously not a guy that did a whole lot

627
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: of interviews and other than the quote of we make

628
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: a lot of money and we spend a lot of

629
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: money when we were talking about work stoppages, he was

630
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: a guy that didn't really have the best relationship. He's

631
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: also a guy that the weight of the world and

632
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 1: expectations were there frozen envelope theories aside decorated career at

633
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Georgetown that we watched every minute of. Right, that was

634
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: when college basketball was one of the rulers of our

635
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: sporting world. And you watch these guys, you got to

636
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: know them, whether you liked them or not. Between he

637
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: Alonso Morning to ken Ba mctamba and John Thompson like

638
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: they were, and then you had Alan Iverson, I mean

639
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: you just had this squad that we paid attention to.

640
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: On a whole other level, Jalen Brunson was the guy

641
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: that was the also ran when Lucas showed up in Dallas.

642
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: He's short with you know the big back porch, right,

643
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: He's not the quick guy, he's not lanky.

644
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: He's not the prototypical star.

645
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: Of the NBA. Oh, and he's a colossal smart asset

646
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: the microphone, so he's very embraceable, and he's got that

647
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: workmanlike thing that wins.

648
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: He's not something.

649
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: Feet right like that that usually disqualified center.

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Speaker 3: What we talk greatest of all time? What do we do?

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Speaker 1: We don't talk about Koreean and Wilt. They get just

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Speaker 1: put off from their own corner. And you know it's like, ah, whatever,

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Speaker 1: they were seven feet tall, Like, let's talk about these guys.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson is that guy on a whole other level.

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Speaker 1: Telling you Brunson is now the greatest Nick of all time?

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Speaker 1: Any Nick fan, that's really sad. I know it's sad.

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Speaker 3: Even talk about car Mellow and it's okay's.

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Speaker 2: Better than Carmelo ad Jalen, But I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying you you just went right past it. We got

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Speaker 2: to insane.

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Speaker 1: Any reference, he's on the lie that game can be there, Jaliheim,

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Speaker 1: the only title Mellow can be there.

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson's greater.

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Speaker 1: That's a metal stand. I mean, actually is Mellow fourth?

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Speaker 1: This is the fourth?

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Speaker 3: Probably maybe fourth?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Probably?

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Speaker 1: It's a really sad mount Rushmore. But hell, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you get you there. Brunson is now the greatest nick ever.

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy and it's a little sad, but it's true.

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Speaker 1: Time now to find out what's trending in the wide

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Speaker 1: world sports with someone who's been called the Patrick Ewing

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Speaker 1: of Fox Sports Radio. She makes a lot of money

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Speaker 1: because she spends a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: It's manzi milagya.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if I make a lot of money,

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Speaker 7: but I definitely spend a lot of money.

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Speaker 8: That is absolutely accurate. Thank you, Poppy Chulo. Yep, thank

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Speaker 8: you Poppy. Though from letting that be a thing.

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Speaker 7: Uh, the total domination as you guys have been talking

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Speaker 7: about between the Knicks and the Celtics. Here's a little

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Speaker 7: of what Jaylen Brown had to say after the loss.

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Speaker 9: Things didn't go our way this year and it's unfortunate,

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Speaker 9: but you know, we hold our head up regardless losing

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Speaker 9: to the Knicks. You know, it feels like death. But

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Speaker 9: I was always taught that there's after there's life after death,

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Speaker 9: so we'll get ready for whatever's next. Whatever that was dark,

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Speaker 9: I'll be ready.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that was really dark.

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Speaker 1: Well it was maybe they'd played better in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what's clearly he found Jesus what I told

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Speaker 1: you at the end of the Celtics era might be here.

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Speaker 1: Is that dark in the locker room already?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 8: Life after death, my goodness, so.

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Speaker 1: Good carrying the dead through the streets exactly. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: biggest Smalls album.

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Speaker 7: Nuggets Ford Aaron Gordon has been diagnosed with the left

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Speaker 7: hamstring hamstring strings, so his status isn't out for Game seven.

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Speaker 8: Against the Thunder, which is on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Another Game seven will be happening on Sunday, but this

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Speaker 7: time it's gonna be on the ice because the Maple

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Speaker 7: Leaves kept their season alive, shutting out the Panthers to zero.

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Speaker 8: In baseball, everyone's getting shut out right now. The Giants

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Speaker 8: are shutting.

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Speaker 7: Out the A's four zero, Wolmer Flora's with the grand

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Speaker 7: slam AT's the bottom of the fifth inning in San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: The Mariners are shutting out the Padres in San Diego

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Speaker 7: five zero, top of the eighth inning. The Diamondbacks are

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Speaker 7: shutting out the Rockies at home five zero, top of

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Speaker 7: the seventh inning, and the Angels were shutting out the Dodgers,

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Speaker 7: but the Dodgers on the scoreboard. Angels are still up

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Speaker 7: for to one bottom of the fifth inning.

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Speaker 8: Tigers are the first team to reach thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Wait, didn't the Nick shut out the Celtics.

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Speaker 7: To night pretty much pretty much so pretty much so

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Speaker 7: practically Yeah, yeah, Tigers of the Pristine to reach thirty wins.

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Speaker 8: They held on to defeat the Blue Jays five to four.

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Speaker 7: The Braves top the Red Sox four to two, and

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Speaker 7: the Astro snapped the Rangers six game winning streak with

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Speaker 7: the six to three win.

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Speaker 8: Twins.

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Speaker 7: Keep on rolling, they keep on winning. They've won twelve.

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Speaker 7: They shut out the Brewers three zero. Back to you, guys, thanks.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of mon Yes, Jason Smith Mike Harmon live

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, the

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Speaker 1: biggest lesson that we have learned about the NBA season

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Speaker 1: to this point, we'll tell you, and it's gonna shock you.

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Speaker 1: It's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with

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Speaker 2: my best friend Mike Harmon.

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Speaker 1: You remember the Knicks being relegated to that small court

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Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals. You know, I actually was working

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Speaker 1: at ESPN and I was fonting the font not the

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Speaker 1: fun and I was fonting like the the eleven o'clock

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Speaker 1: Sports Center, I want to say, which is when you're

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Speaker 1: in charge of all the graphics. And it was insane

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Speaker 1: because I'm watching Game six of the of the NBA Final,

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Speaker 1: which the Knicks won, and it's a dual split screen

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Speaker 1: of their chasing OJ and the Knicks on the other screen,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my goodness, I can't get past this. Right,

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Speaker 1: And now, now, Knicks nostalgia is going to be around

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Speaker 1: for the next four days, the Knicks and the conference

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Speaker 1: finals for the first time in twenty five years. It's

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Speaker 1: already everywhere any NBA channel you look on. Here's the

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Speaker 1: last time the Knicks were in the finals back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine. Here's a history of the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: And the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: Right, So you're gonna get Nicks nostalgia for the next

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Speaker 1: few days. Again, it's the nineties, but I vividly remember

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Speaker 1: in the I still was crazy the Knicks win Game six, right,

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Speaker 1: But obviously everybody watched the and the OJ chase and

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Speaker 1: stuttering John from Howard Stern Show was at the Knicks game.

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Speaker 1: They went to ask questions when he would go ask questions,

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Speaker 1: and he asked Pat Riley in the post game, he's called.

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Speaker 1: He calls me, Pat, do you think if oj cut

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Speaker 1: to his left he would.

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Speaker 2: Have gone away?

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Speaker 3: And and Pack goes, what, let me talk?

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Speaker 1: And here the Pierre go go get him out, get

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Speaker 1: him out.

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Speaker 3: Get him out?

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Speaker 1: Pack goes, what is he? What does he talk like?

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Speaker 1: Pat had no idea, like, what are we talking?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean?

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Speaker 3: What do you mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The cut left? Did he get away?

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Speaker 1: But wow, the Knicker in the East Finals, it's Nicks,

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Speaker 1: Pacers t Wolves, and the winner of tomorrow's game between

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Speaker 1: the Thunder and the Nuggets will pick that game and

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Speaker 1: give you a preview of it coming up in a bit.

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Speaker 1: Right now, this moment in time, the biggest lesson, the

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Speaker 1: biggest thinking we can learn from this season in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And if this doesn't tell you nothing does? Are

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Speaker 2: we just talking on court or.

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Speaker 3: On court?

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Speaker 2: Everything else on court.

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Speaker 1: On court, on court, on on camera, on court, The

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Speaker 1: NBA regular season is irrelevant. If this should be the

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Speaker 1: season to tell you that what happens the first eighty

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Speaker 1: two games is absolutely irrelevant because we're seeing lower seeds

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Speaker 1: come in and win big rounds in the NBA playoffs

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Speaker 1: when you don't normally we didn't use to normally see that.

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Speaker 1: We're seeing big seeds go out in the second round

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Speaker 1: that were incredibly dominant from the end of October all

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Speaker 1: the way until two weeks ago. The three coming into

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Right, we talked about this a lot. The

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Speaker 1: three best teams in the NBA a regular season and

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Speaker 1: they're far away better than everybody else, The Calves, the Celtics,

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Speaker 1: and the Thunder, three best teams in the NBA, and

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Speaker 1: then the next level of contenders. And we said, hey,

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Speaker 1: it's the Knicks and the Nuggets and the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Right, that was enough.

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Speaker 1: But those three teams were so far ahead, and I

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Speaker 1: remember even saying, it's if we're talking about an NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals that's not Thunder Celtics or Thunder Calves. Something is wrong.

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Speaker 1: And that could still happen under a home for Game

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Speaker 1: seven against against the Nuggets tomorrow. But think about this now,

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Speaker 1: the three best teams in the NBA. The Cavaliers don't

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Speaker 1: get out of the second round, the Celtics don't get

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Speaker 1: out of the second round, and the thunder or one

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Speaker 1: game away from potentially not getting out of the second round. Like,

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Speaker 1: that's how irrelevant the regular season is. Just get in,

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Speaker 1: Just get into the playing round. And this is why

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Speaker 1: it goes back to what I say, Hey, if you

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Speaker 1: can make a move at the deadline and improve your team,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you're an eight seed or a

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Speaker 1: seventh seed, you can still get out. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if you're a sixth seed. Go for it. Because the

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Speaker 1: playoffs change, injuries happen, bad matchups happen. All of these

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Speaker 1: things have happened.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: The Celtics suddenly turned into a bad matchup for the

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Speaker 1: Knicks because defensively and physically, the Knicks were absolutely dominant

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Speaker 1: over the Celtics. The injuries hit the Cavaliers, they couldn't

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Speaker 1: get past the first part of the playoffs, and the

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Speaker 1: Pacers proved, hey, we're pretty good too. Right now, you

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Speaker 1: look at the Western Conference, the Tea Wolves said, we

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Speaker 1: don't care about you guys. Getting Luca doesn't matter what

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Speaker 1: you did in the regular season, and it was a clinic.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: The regular season is irrelevant if you think you can

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Speaker 1: improve your team go for it. Go for it, because

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Speaker 1: when the playoffs start, everything is different. Now do the real, real,

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Speaker 1: real bottom feeders the teams, Hey, do we go crazy

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Speaker 1: to try to get into the playing round? Okay, chances

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Speaker 1: are you're not getting at the bottom of the playing

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Speaker 1: round is really really low. But if you're like a

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Speaker 1: A anywhere from five through eight or five through nine seed,

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Speaker 1: and yeah.

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Speaker 3: Go for it because you don't know what can happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, you talk about health, which is always number one

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Speaker 1: going on many a year here in the NBA, But

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Speaker 1: for a long time it's been the question in the

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Speaker 1: regular season where we used to have that whiteboard when

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Speaker 1: we were in the studio down the hall where it'd

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Speaker 1: be like, all right, who's gonna win this year?

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Speaker 2: And we come up with the three names.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's the Warriors, there's the Cavaliers, and then

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Speaker 1: you'd pick whoever was the second and was gonna challenge, saying, ah,

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Speaker 1: can the Warriors really keep going? And then it was

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Speaker 1: all right, who else in the east? Some then Cavaliers

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Speaker 1: have by somebody go ahead into it. So you'd put

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Speaker 1: another team there unwillingly, but you'd get to it. But

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Speaker 1: the last few years we've asked a lot, what's the

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Speaker 1: motivation to try to grind for eighty two games? You're

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Speaker 1: looking at it straight through the lens of a Knicks

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Speaker 1: fan who watched a squad that was really good, not deep,

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Speaker 1: but very good. In terms of your one through six

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Speaker 1: last year?

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 1: They fell like flies and you can immediately attribute it

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Speaker 1: to Yeah, you could say a lot of time on

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Speaker 1: the court together is great. Yeah, a lot of time

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Speaker 1: on the court also begets the injuries, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you fell to time and time again. So you're trying

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Speaker 1: to find that balance. But to your point, you just

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Speaker 1: need to be healthy. Come April fifteenth, tell on tax Day,

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Speaker 1: pay your tax. Isn't going to the playoffs the regular season.

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Speaker 1: This season should tell you how irrelevant the regular season

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Speaker 1: is in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Jason and Mike coming up next way.

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Speaker 1: Don't you hear what one guy who had to walk

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Speaker 1: to work last week had to say.

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Speaker 3: Following the Knicks eliminating the Celtics. It's