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Speaker 1: broke nigga raceom that's that. Don't touch anything in the stuff.

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Speaker 1: And it's rich nigga rasom that's that.

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Speaker 2: Come in.

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Speaker 3: Please buy mo what you want?

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Speaker 1: A Bentley firm coat, a diamond chain.

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Speaker 3: All you blacks want all the same thing. Used to

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Speaker 3: only be niggas.

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Speaker 1: Everybody playing spending a thing on Alexander Wang new Slaves.

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Speaker 3: Sup y'all.

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Speaker 4: Hello, Pensil Advisor, forendsal Advisory. Good mom's bad choices.

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Speaker 3: I I'm Erica, I'm Mela. We're back and we're stone.

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Speaker 3: So bear with us. Stoned, angry and confused, very confused. Mostly,

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Speaker 3: how was your weekend? My weekend was fun? Okay, we

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Speaker 3: hung out for a bit for a bit for a

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. It was my daughter's birthday this time. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm like we had I'm like, what did I do

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Speaker 3: this weekend? It was my daughter's birthday party.

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Speaker 6: She didn't a birthday party at the park.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Irie had a little birthday party at the park.

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Speaker 4: We had a pinata, we had a really bad magician,

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Speaker 4: and tacos and a house.

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Speaker 6: Tacos were on point, but they weren't vegetarian for someone

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Speaker 6: to who claimed to be vegetarian.

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Speaker 4: He told me he was gonna have vegetarian options, and

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Speaker 4: real vegetables were gone, like in two minutes.

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Speaker 6: I was like, this has vegetarian get cheecken asada and

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Speaker 6: pork for the party.

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Speaker 3: And I for pork tacos like that. You didn't even

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Speaker 3: go slow, you didn't go with chicken. It were so good.

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Speaker 3: I loved like pork I do.

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Speaker 4: It's like my one thing that's really hard for me

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Speaker 4: My friend took an Instagram like a secret Instagram video

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Speaker 4: of me eating the tacos.

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Speaker 3: It was like when your friend says she's a vegetarian,

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Speaker 4: She's like twice a month, I'm not like, I don't

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Speaker 4: not eat meat because I care about animals. I mean,

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Speaker 4: treated well in the process. But I love meat. It's

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Speaker 4: just I just feel better not eating it more often.

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Speaker 3: Of course it's bad for you.

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Speaker 6: We're not supposed to it made unfortunately, I'm we're greedy

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Speaker 6: it she tastes good and how pineapple in it?

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Speaker 3: It was so brong you did.

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Speaker 6: She also had adult juice feature at the party was

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Speaker 6: very classy party I meant to any.

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Speaker 3: Children, I always must have.

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Speaker 4: Adults thought I made a big deal about it too,

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Speaker 4: because like baby Daddy was like, I was like, I

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Speaker 4: need you to go get the vodka, and he was like,

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Speaker 3: I was like, this is my birthing.

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Speaker 4: Party for me to This is the day I gave

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Speaker 4: birth and my body was changed forever and mutilated, and

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Speaker 4: I need to celebrate something. It's my beautiful child, but

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Speaker 4: a beautiful, wonderful, amazing child, but also my birthing day.

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Speaker 3: It is your day. I have totally girth, Like you

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Speaker 3: will never be the same after that. I will celebrate

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Speaker 3: that shit forever.

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Speaker 4: I think at some point I'll get over it, but no, first,

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Speaker 4: like five years we have it's it's really our party too,

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Speaker 4: but she was just like, oh gifts right, friends, not

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Speaker 4: like I was born today. You know, I entered the.

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Speaker 3: World on this day. It was coordinated. Well, thank you.

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Speaker 3: I just to have had a long day.

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Speaker 4: I'm tired because I feel like, you know, just one

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's been my day. It's a testing

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Speaker 3: day and people you're being tested.

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Speaker 4: I'm being tested yeah, from ye interesting situations.

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Speaker 3: But on top of that, watching like this Kanye.

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Speaker 3: What about meow? If only you knew about me? But

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Speaker 3: Just showed up because he had something to say, Like

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Speaker 4: Kanye recently came out saying he like supports Doman Trump

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Speaker 4: and then like his friends reached out to him, like

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Speaker 4: you doing?

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Speaker 3: What can we talk? Like? You know better?

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Speaker 4: Like you have a responsibility to community, right whether you like.

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Speaker 3: It or not.

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Speaker 4: People look to you as especially as a vocal person

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Speaker 4: that went on Live TV and said George Bush doesn't

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Speaker 4: for the black community, just to.

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Speaker 3: Say it publicly, because you have you have the you know,

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Speaker 4: And here's the thing You're allowed to grow from any moment.

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Speaker 4: That moment was pretty defining, and I thought it was

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Speaker 4: it's not like, oh, well, you always have to stay that, Kanye,

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Speaker 6: And then he made a comment which on the Charlotta

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Speaker 6: being a hip hop artist. He's not just a hip

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Speaker 6: hop artist. He's not just a black man. He's not

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Speaker 6: just this, He's not just that, which I can I

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Speaker 6: can understand. I try to be non judgmental in the

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Speaker 3: All planted, saying that you don't need to tell close

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Speaker 6: She was like, I actually don't actually get great, why

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Speaker 6: did I want that?

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Speaker 3: I just saw the whole process in her brain?

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Speaker 6: So I mean, all off, we are like we're conditioned,

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Speaker 6: So I agree in that in that aspect, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: like when you contradict yourself so much and as much

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Speaker 6: as we'd like to think that, the truth of the

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Speaker 6: matter is, we exist in this real world where I'm

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Speaker 6: even if I want to rachel it and be white like.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna work that way because I'm always.

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Speaker 3: Going to be viewed as a black woman.

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Speaker 6: So and I and I identify with that a lot

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Speaker 6: because I know what that entails whole you know, wholeheartedly.

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Speaker 3: So like for him to say, I'm not just that,

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Speaker 3: I get it. But no, Kanye, you are just that,

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Speaker 3: and you are a huge like person in that. Be

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Speaker 3: proud of that, Be proud of that. Why does it

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Speaker 3: have to be negative? Anyway?

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Speaker 4: Let's play this clip real quick because y'all need to

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Speaker 4: hear this shit if you haven't already.

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Speaker 2: Here, Scott, I feel like one thing is people try

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Speaker 2: to minimize me to artists, hip hop, black community. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm always gonna represent that, but I also represent the world.

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Speaker 2: Can you hear about slavery for four hundred years?

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Speaker 2: That sound like a choice?

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Speaker 3: Drops the motherfucking mike, I just left in my car?

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Speaker 3: What like?

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Speaker 4: I literally still feel like I just feel like like

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Speaker 4: I got kick Yeah, like the stomach.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a choice, my nigga. The comment is

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Speaker 3: so ignorant.

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Speaker 4: That sounds like a choice. That sounds like white privilege.

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Speaker 3: Are you white? Are you? What's happening? What's happening. What's happening?

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Speaker 6: I don't even know. This is the same Kanye, like

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Speaker 6: you don't and leave your ass for a white girl,

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Speaker 6: you know. Like there's so many things that he said

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Speaker 6: regarding like the truth and so it's not like you

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Speaker 6: don't know what's up. But like you forgot, Nigga, you're

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Speaker 6: from Chicago, You've you fucking forgot, like you married and

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Speaker 6: I'm all you know, I'm all about love is blind

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Speaker 6: and all that.

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Speaker 4: But Doug, when your ancestors were getting raped and murdered

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Speaker 4: and mutilated, do you think they were thinking.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is a choice.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that that people would stay enslaved for

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Speaker 4: four hundred years because they thought.

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Speaker 3: They had choices?

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Speaker 6: Do you even recognize the mental abuse, the mental abuse

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Speaker 6: that goes.

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Speaker 3: On And he tried to touch on that after that statement,

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Speaker 3: but you can't. That statement was so.

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Speaker 4: Damning and so like it just what did he say

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Speaker 4: after he said that's like mental slave?

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Speaker 6: He's he started talking about mental slavery is real and

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Speaker 6: for him to make that comment, he's totally he said, look.

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Speaker 2: Instant, I'm a black person, a black communicating thing is

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Speaker 2: people try to minimize me to artists him unity yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm always gonna rip he said, black community. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: always gonna represent that, but I also represent the world.

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Speaker 2: And you hear about slavery for four hundred years, for

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Speaker 2: four hundred years, that sound like a choice, Like he

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Speaker 2: was there for four hundred years, and it's all of y'all,

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Speaker 2: you know, Like it's like we're we're mentally in prison.

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Speaker 4: They are.

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Speaker 3: Digging themselves out, Like what why was that? I feel

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Speaker 4: He's living this life and this insane lifestyle with an

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Speaker 4: why even in the Charlemagne interview, he kept talking about

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, And he talks about President Obama leaving asking

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Speaker 3: He's the president, he has shit to do.

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Speaker 6: He can YouTube and if it's like what you found

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Speaker 3: You're definitely a narcissist.

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Speaker 4: And then he even says, well, when he talks about

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Speaker 4: People who you think you're you're horrible to that's not genius, nigga.

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Speaker 3: There's some insecurity you are there. He does have genius talent.

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Speaker 6: And listen and listen to what the fuck you're say

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Speaker 3: So even as you like a real to me, a.

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Speaker 6: like I believe totally, Like you've got to be able

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Speaker 6: to say regardless, like Nigga, you're tripping, you're losing yourself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, get back to let's play what he said because

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Speaker 4: thirty seconds, that's all I have to say. Okay, So, okay,

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Speaker 4: what is his name? Man Lathan? Man Lathan? Okay, here, God,

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Speaker 7: I actually, I actually I don't think you're thinking anything.

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Speaker 7: I think what you're doing right now is actually the

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Speaker 8: You're entitled to believe whatever you want. There is fact,

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Speaker 8: in real world, real life consequence behind everything that.

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Speaker 3: You just said.

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Speaker 8: While you are making music and being an artist and

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Speaker 8: I'm disa I'm appalled, brother, I am unbelievably hurt by

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Speaker 8: the fact that you have moved into something to me

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Speaker 8: that's not real.

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Speaker 3: A fucking men.

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Speaker 5: Somebody say, hellojah in the church? What okay in the

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Speaker 5: who In the words of CARDI oh, literally like what

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Speaker 5: are you talking about? Are you the fuck are you

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Speaker 5: talking about? Like, yeah, I don't think you're king THEU.

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Speaker 5: I think you're fucking mind. Don't have any thoughts.

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Speaker 6: I think sometimes you sound like you're talking about but

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Speaker 6: then when you say she like this, it reminds me

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Speaker 6: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: I think that you are so privileged that you just

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Speaker 6: And then sweeping on a carpet by saying I am

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Speaker 6: to question the fact that you're batshit fucking crazy. Take

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Speaker 6: your meds. Hangye, period, take your meds. I'm good. I'm good,

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Speaker 6: he is.

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Speaker 4: So then when we were watching that, we tried attempted

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Speaker 4: I couldn't even stay focused. I felt like I had

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Speaker 4: add watching his add yeah.

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Speaker 6: Because even his sentence is, first of all, I know

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Speaker 6: a lot of people. I know people who have conversations

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Speaker 6: of those people, and I'm like, those people have problems.

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Speaker 6: Like I've felt like, oh, this is not what you're

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Speaker 6: saying is making absolutely no sense. You keep digging up

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Speaker 6: yourself in this almost delusional manner. Unfortunate for Kanye, he's

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Speaker 6: so successful, so he does make a million offs. He

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Speaker 6: is crazy talented, and the truth his artists are usually

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Speaker 6: batshit crazy, right, So in his defense, you know you're weird,

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Speaker 6: but you need to chill the black community comments because

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Speaker 6: like like he's morphed into for someone to be so.

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Speaker 3: Conscious, such a beacon of hope for black people.

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Speaker 6: At one point that Bush like you said, that Bush

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Speaker 6: comment was so profound. I don't even like it was

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Speaker 6: so profound. I was like, oh my god, this is

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Speaker 6: I'm I don't I'm at a loss for words.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't even and I can't say

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Speaker 3: it's like publicity or anything like that. It's like it's either.

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Speaker 4: Like he's literally has some mental illness happening, which I think, yes, Two,

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Speaker 4: he's he is so traumatized by his fame and success

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Speaker 4: and has let so many of life's obstacles beat him down.

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Speaker 4: He's not very resilient unfortunately. Yes he's sensitive, and you

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Speaker 4: know what, that's okay, but you can't especially because you

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Speaker 4: have so many blessings and you've always you've had them

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Speaker 4: for so long at this point, like it's.

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Speaker 3: Your responsibility to give back.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think to give back in a positive way,

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Speaker 4: And if this end, if say, let's say this is

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Speaker 4: all for publicity, because I don't know what shit pass

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Speaker 4: these Kardashian like no, the machine that is, then he's.

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Speaker 3: A machine and I don't respect that either.

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Speaker 4: But I'm just saying if this is, which it seems

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Speaker 4: very ironic that he has all these opinions now that

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Speaker 4: he's out, like he has music dropping and albums dropping,

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Speaker 4: and all these albums he's working on nas and blah blah, blah,

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Speaker 4: like it seems real convenient that Kanye has been silent

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Speaker 4: all this time and he has some shit he needs

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Speaker 4: some attention for and he's using this as a way

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Speaker 4: to get it, and that just makes it so dirty

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Speaker 4: and predictable for the family that he has become attached

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Speaker 4: himself to. You know, like the Kardashians are no stranger

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Speaker 4: to creating having no morals and just creating a fucking

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Speaker 4: media storm off some bullshit that most families would never

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Speaker 4: try to capitalize one because it's dirty or it's I

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Speaker 4: don't even talk about the sex tape. I just mean

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Speaker 4: just in general, just the shit, divorce, all types of stuff,

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Speaker 4: they have I'm sure I can imagine.

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Speaker 3: Are you mad at that? Okay? So I mean is

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Speaker 6: Are they ever really to the public they know people

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Speaker 6: like kids look up to them, People look up to that.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, why wouldn't you want to be Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So like obviously if you claim to be too,

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Speaker 4: they try to claim to be right.

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Speaker 3: And you know what I mean, I do agree with that, Like,

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Speaker 3: don't don't pretend to be.

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Speaker 6: Mother Mary and reality everybody knows posting like spiritual quotes

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Speaker 6: and ship and talking about your back whatever the fuck is.

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Speaker 4: Just be you the exploitive person you are. Say yes

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Speaker 4: I am, yeah, right, you know, yeah, I agree. Take responsibility,

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Speaker 4: don't hide under Sheep's close.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like that. Be who you are, but

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Speaker 3: don't don't pretend to be this.

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Speaker 4: But then, but that's why I like if this he

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Speaker 4: especially Connyie, like if he's using as Donald Trump thing,

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Speaker 4: he knows the politics are hot, he knows people are

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Speaker 4: feel like their lives are in danger.

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Speaker 3: I mean and get.

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Speaker 6: But no, I mean I think he's gonna lose a lot.

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Speaker 6: I think he's gonna lose most of them. He's gonna win.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I don't think he's gonna lose a lot.

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Speaker 4: That's the fucked up part about this whole situation is

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Speaker 4: that I think that nobody it's gonna work. I think

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Speaker 4: that his album is gonna sell more than ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: people want to see people want to see what he's

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Speaker 4: gonna say. Because he released that did you hear that song?

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Speaker 4: He was that fake song he released?

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Speaker 3: Now, how does it go. Oh my god, really, people, he's.

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Speaker 4: Like new song, like new, like snippet from my song,

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Speaker 4: like it's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 3: This verse is crazy. And then it was like scoopy

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Speaker 3: poop poop, We doop scoop, scoop poop poop, but scoop

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Speaker 3: doop doopy crazy like nig it, That's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 3: So crazy. You know, he's a crazy mofo. What can

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Speaker 3: we say? I used to love him. I think he

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Speaker 3: was so I did too. I did too. You could like, uh,

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Speaker 3: what's the guy's name? He responded in you can like

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Speaker 3: Van Lanson.

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Speaker 4: Who needs conye when you could like Van Fanny come

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Speaker 4: on my show, But honestly.

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Speaker 3: Please, can you hang out with us, Vannie? Because I

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Speaker 3: felt you really talk about it. Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about it, because this ship right here is

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Speaker 4: just a hot ass mess.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of hot ass messes whatever, well, speaking of hot

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Speaker 3: as messes.

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Speaker 6: We also watched the Rachel Doleazel Dolige all dolis all.

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Speaker 3: Right, I watched him for an hour. Now know the

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Speaker 3: bitchous name Dolael Dola. I've been saying dolis a.

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Speaker 6: I thought it was Rachel Dolezel whatever the Rachel Divide

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Speaker 6: on Netflix about you know Rachel who was the president

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Speaker 6: of the NAACP in Spokane, Washington.

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Speaker 3: And claim to be black but come to find out

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Speaker 3: she was white. So basically, basically, well, well we'll take

437
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: you Rachel. Yeah, we trade, we we trade Kanye. We

438
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 3: pay to Kanye for Rachel. Look, I Rachel's problematic in

439
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 3: so many ways.

440
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 6: Rachel's crazy, too many but she's definitely more beneficial to

441
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 6: the black community. She she loves us, she to be

442
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 6: involved in in a positive manner, and she she wants

443
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 6: to represent the black community, not just the world Kanye

444
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 6: because she sees, she knows that people see her.

445
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: As black first.

446
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 6: So Rachel, sadly enough, had a really sad upbringing which

447
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 6: was like super cray and as a result, she was

448
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 6: fucked up like the rest of us.

449
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 3: You know, she had like basically she uh they had.

450
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,119
Speaker 4: She had her mother had a very hard birth with

451
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 4: her and apparently held it against.

452
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 6: Her whole because because the parents were very Christian, her

453
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 6: parents were very, very very very traditional Christian, they chunned her,

454
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 6: in her opinion, her whole life because of her painful,

455
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 6: the painful birth that she brought.

456
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: They thought it was like a sin of Satan.

457
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 6: Later in her childhood, like when she was in her teens,

458
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 6: I guess, the very square Christian family started adopting kids,

459
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 6: and they started adopting black kids cause it was cheaper

460
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 6: and easier to get. But they were raising them basically

461
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 6: like white kids. They didn't have any acknowledgment that they

462
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 6: were black.

463
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 3: No contact with black people.

464
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 6: Just images, nothing, and it was even like the newspaper

465
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 6: like fam said the Dulezelle family. Yeah, so she she

466
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 6: felt the responsibility to s research herself for her siblings,

467
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 6: read them black books, et cetera, et cetera, and I

468
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 6: guess in that process became very fond of the African

469
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: American c and.

470
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: Always felt inside that she was black. And basically what happened.

471
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 4: So then she moved up, she moved out, and then

472
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 4: apparently the family was abusive, abusive and justified it like

473
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 4: with Jesus. Yeah, they, like the wife and her parents

474
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: were abusing the black children and they come later on

475
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 4: she ended up adopting one of her brothers.

476
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: And who was the youngest of the adopted children. I guess,

477
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 3: so she may have been like in the pictures, like sixteen.

478
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: What happened to the other ones. They didn't even meant that.

479
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: They probably don't with her because who knows why, because

480
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: there was two others. Maybe she's there brainwashed.

481
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 6: I don't know, because so there was So she has

482
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 6: a sister who's black, who's the adoptive sister. And then

483
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 6: the youngest she adopted as her son. So she had

484
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 6: a biracial child, and then she got custody of her

485
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 6: the youngest adopted sibling brother brother, and then was now

486
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 6: her son, who's now her son. And she says that

487
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 6: at that point, once she adopted him, because there was

488
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 6: I guess the father. She had divorced the husband at

489
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 6: that time, so she wouldn't have to explain to people

490
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 6: why he looked brown and the first son looked obviously

491
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 6: by Rachel, she went ahead and started to identify self.

492
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 6: She says this self identify as African Americans, so there'd

493
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 6: be less questions.

494
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: She didn't want people asking her why.

495
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 6: She just started, she figured, so she started putting line

496
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 6: these weird braids.

497
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: Girl Rachel's hair was laid minus them edges that were torn.

498
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: She's she's corrupted her edges.

499
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 6: However, her synthetic braiding and dreading and weaving and wig

500
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 6: skills are pretty versatile.

501
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie.

502
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 6: And also we've learned many things about Rachel throughout the

503
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 6: documentary which people may not known, and it's you need

504
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 6: to know.

505
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: She also which took me and.

506
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 6: Erica by you know, major surprise and able to She also,

507
00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 6: in addition to her Afrikaan studies, she also is a

508
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 6: hairstylist of ethnic African hair.

509
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: She has a sign.

510
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 6: She has a sign, and she made a point I

511
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 6: quote in the film. I wish we could play this part.

512
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 6: She says, I may have lost friends with this scandal,

513
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 6: but I didn't lose any hair clients. That's what's playing

514
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 6: the bills right now, my hair clients, which I mean,

515
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 6: she's pretty fucking impressive.

516
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: And as she was doing this, she was braiding like

517
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: a woman's hair, like brain doing some individuals and adding

518
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 4: like hair to it.

519
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

520
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 8: So I mean.

521
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: This comes back to the fact that like maybe like

522
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: creative geniuses are crazy. Okay, okay, because I have to

523
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 3: say her art was pretty fucking amazing. Okay. Also, we

524
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: learned about Rachel's that she's an.

525
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 4: A painter at an amazing painter.

526
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 3: I mean even have like beautiful African blas I think

527
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: of it.

528
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: I don't know if I saw anyone else, but it's

529
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: it's beautiful, like it's hot, Like she should be an artist.

530
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck she's been doing all

531
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: this time. Yeah, it's amazing, whether she's black or white

532
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 3: or other, that we're artwork.

533
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 4: So she was complaining this whole time that she can't

534
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: find a job in you know what she's in Spokane for,

535
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: Like she was an educator. I think she was a

536
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 4: teacher at Howard right or no, she was a student

537
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: student Howard and then but she was an African American

538
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 4: studies professor, professor and obviously very passionate about, you know,

539
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: just everything African and black.

540
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: She was the head of the NAACP and in Spokane, Washington.

541
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: She was complaining about not being able to like work

542
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 4: in that profession anymore because of her name, because of

543
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 4: her name, and because people think that she's crazy. But girl,

544
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: you have amazing to have a whole you have a

545
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 4: whole other career. You're you're not watering at this very moment.

546
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 4: Like bitch can really really.

547
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 6: Really really paint, Like bitch can really paint, Like wow,

548
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 6: wow that you did that right, I'm like so.

549
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 3: Mad that that's like what stuck with us the most.

550
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I was so impressive.

551
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 5: It was the most important of the film. I mean

552
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 5: also one of those people there was one I was like,

553
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 5: can someone.

554
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: Tell us to get started Instagram with the paintings? Like

555
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: god damn no, but on some real shit. I mean

556
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 3: this that Rachel like that movie just I don't know, like.

557
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 4: There was a part of me that wanted to feel

558
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: bad for her, but then like there were so many

559
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 4: times where it was at the small, tiny, like I

560
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: want to go back towards really really small, but then

561
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 4: every time that started to grow a little bit, some

562
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 4: dumb shit would happen. Like her basically they did, they could.

563
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if they ever really proved about her

564
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 4: planting hate crime mail.

565
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: Okay, well they tried to imply. So this is where

566
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: it was birthed. She was the NAACP president.

567
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 6: Apparently she was really successful, but also apparently there was

568
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 6: some hate mail getting sent to her that was as

569
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 6: basically trying to threaten.

570
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 4: Her because of her race, her black race, because a

571
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: black she was identifying as a black woman.

572
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 6: To find out, there were only two people who had

573
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 6: access to that mailbox herself and one other person. So

574
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 6: the thought, the possibility that she in fact could have

575
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: been planting it against herself was an option, and that's

576
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 6: what started the investigation.

577
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: And then it comes that's when it came.

578
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 6: To find out that the actual you know, local police

579
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 6: then asked her publicly, are your parents white?

580
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: And that's what sparked the entire and that's when she

581
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: ran off camera, ran off camera.

582
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 6: In the documentary, however, I will say they do have

583
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 6: facts that point that it could go either way.

584
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: This moment says that there had been.

585
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 6: There had been like racial racial racial tension in that

586
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 6: city before, and it wouldn't have been completely outrageous at

587
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 6: someone if some one had planted it.

588
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 3: Someone else says, had planted it or sent it, you

589
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 3: mean sent it and had someone actually sent it? And

590
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: then someone else said who was in the NAACP Katara

591
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: Johnson to be exact, she.

592
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 6: Said, I ain't never witnessed that much hate mail from

593
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 6: anyone ever in the whole past five years.

594
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: So it was she said, the most hate mail.

595
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 6: Yes, But fact remains is, because you said this before

596
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: the film came on, is what if there was someone

597
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 6: within the office Katina whatever her name is, Qatar who

598
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: she was pissing off, and then maybe Katar had the

599
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 6: key who out of it and said, you know, especially

600
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 6: even this bitch is black, and started doing some research

601
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 6: and then you know, it could have gone a lot

602
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 6: of ways.

603
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: So but then they were saying like she was helping

604
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: the community a lot doing all these things, so.

605
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 6: There's a possibility and maybe she was starting doing too

606
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 6: much and maybe someone else was someone was out for her.

607
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 6: But then there also said that there was a portion

608
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: of the movie that did not sit well with me,

609
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 6: and she doing some kind of speech in the community

610
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 6: and with a megaphone, and she had some black boys

611
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 6: laid on the ground, two of which were her sons,

612
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 6: brother's son, one real son.

613
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: The ones where you.

614
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: Draw, yeah, you draw like a murder scene, and she

615
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 6: has a speech like, my sons are laying here because

616
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 6: it represents.

617
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what the fuck she was

618
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: talking about, but I could tell it.

619
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: She was just basically saying that, like so many black

620
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: men are killed in like so many black men are

621
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 4: killed for senseless acts, and she was using her sons

622
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: as a prop to show the example them lying on

623
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: the floor surrounded by chalk like you would at a

624
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 4: crime scene. Using them as that example, as a white

625
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 4: woman who is identifying as a black woman on a megaphone,

626
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: there's just something wrong with that picture.

627
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 8: It does.

628
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 6: Once you hear the interviews from the boys who don't

629
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: seem much interested at all in her cause or and

630
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 6: like her bullshit, it seems like I can't imagine them

631
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 6: them willingly Lyn.

632
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: It almost seems like the older one is more is

633
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: more like indebted to her.

634
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 4: And indebted and also like maybe understands her more than

635
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: her actual biological right, because her biological son is like,

636
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: why the fuck do you keep going on TV? Why

637
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: are you writing a book? Why do you keep trying to.

638
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Truth to these people? Like just just say the fucking

639
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: home and she'll out and just say you're white, because

640
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: that's what she literally says, just say you're white.

641
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 6: And at the end it hurts me because the sun

642
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 6: is super intelligent, he's super fed up, and it makes

643
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 6: her seem like she's yolish. It makes me say no,

644
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 6: It makes her seem like she really needs in one's attention,

645
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 6: which she probably does. Well.

646
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: Even watch something throughout the documentary too, like sorry, throughout

647
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: the documentary too, she documents things like like like hate,

648
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: like banana's being left on her windshield and nooses being

649
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 4: left like on her lawn.

650
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: She like a person was walking by and left their

651
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: like gun registration registration in her lawn, like all these

652
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: threats that she claims to know.

653
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 6: My favorite threat was my favorite threat of all. She

654
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 6: took a picture of the crib because she was also

655
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: pregnant within the documentary and gives birth. In the documentary,

656
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 6: she has a picture of the crib with the window

657
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 6: next to it and says, someone just yelled through the window.

658
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: I don't know literally about Langston Leanson Hughes because she

659
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 4: named her son. She named her newborn son Langston Hughes

660
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: Langston after Langston Hughes.

661
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 3: But it's like you are feeding into it by.

662
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: She wants people to know about these alleged hate crimes.

663
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that they couldn't possibly be true,

664
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: but I'm sure black people now are there they view

665
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 4: her as a target because they're angry. They're angry that like,

666
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: you didn't have to experience any of the shit that

667
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 4: you really experience as a black person, and you just

668
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 4: want to be black, and like she.

669
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: Basically she says, I don't have to I get it.

670
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 3: She's basically saying I get it, and I have went

671
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 3: through some abuse. The way that she says she gets

672
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: it is by having hate crimes happen to her.

673
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 6: But yeah, and also I get black people. There's so

674
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 6: many levels this bullshit. It's like you, like you are

675
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 6: basically depicting the stereotypical thought.

676
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 3: Like I will admit least she don't try to like act,

677
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: like talk like this. She's not doing all that.

678
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: But like the hair styles, the girl bit she got

679
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: a hair wrapped down better than Mila's hair.

680
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 6: Raps, and I wrapped my hair and I was like, damn,

681
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 6: I wish this bitch Rachel had a tutorial because this

682
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 6: one's not popping like hers.

683
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: Her head wraps weren't like Rachel Dance. You need to

684
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: study YouTube. What's your hair silence and your art and

685
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: your art and your hair raps.

686
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 6: I mean, honest to god, you are just wasting all

687
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 6: that energy on some bullshit when you could be fostering

688
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 6: your real talent black or white or whatever.

689
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: When you're making patents and hair wraps, nobody cares. But

690
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, she's black. She like yeah, this black kid

691
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 3: black on one on YouTube. She white girl. I don't care.

692
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: She got my hand and said and she had so

693
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 3: many her wigs.

694
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: I mean she honestly could have Like if she told

695
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: me she was mixed, just she I would have been

696
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: I would have believed her, even though she looks white

697
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 4: as now that I know she's not, I'm like, she's

698
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: kind of oddly.

699
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: She got booties, she has not full, her nose is wide,

700
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 3: her nose is a little wider, she has choses. Bitch

701
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: might be black.

702
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 6: I don't know why she didn't just send her ancestry

703
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 6: into ancestry dot com because she might.

704
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: Have come back four percent and we could left for

705
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: the fuck alone. I'm Rachel. We have lots of good

706
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 3: advice for you, and I hope you're Rachel. Have you

707
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: taken ancestry today? I'm sure you got at least it's

708
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 3: an eight percent chance, and then Lilik come on one day.

709
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 3: You know it's that one drop. R It is okay.

710
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: So my other issue, okay, this is also how you

711
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: know that she was kind of like an attention hungry

712
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 3: little bitch. She had a lawsuit with how she went

713
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: to Howard. This situation like pissed me off. She must

714
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: have had.

715
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 6: They didn't really text this on this in the documentary,

716
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: which I wish they had about her lawsuit to.

717
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: Howard for being a white woman. I don't even know

718
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: what the fuck that was. Anyway, Her brother's son is

719
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: applying there for law school, and she's he's basically they

720
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: went on a tour.

721
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, with the cameras, obviously, and he discusses with her.

722
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 6: You know, people are already making comments about you.

723
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: Being there, and obviously there's a tweet about.

724
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: Him not getting into the law school because of his

725
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 6: association with his mother's sister. She then posts a picture

726
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 6: which of him at Howard. My son hopefully chooses Howard at.

727
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 4: Law school, Like, bitch, you you sued Howard as a

728
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 4: white woman. Now you're on their campus and you're taking

729
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: a photo with your with your brother son, and.

730
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: You're documenting a document and you're with.

731
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 4: A documentary crew and you're posting it and you think

732
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 4: you're not going to get backlash, And she's hurt again.

733
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: Now she's a victim again.

734
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 4: She's trying to be low key for her kid, which

735
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: kid wanted her to be low key, and she was

736
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: so high key like she was like, it.

737
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: Makes me feel like she doesn't give a fuck.

738
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 4: She doesn't she really cares about this supposed cause she like,

739
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 4: I feel like her excuse to.

740
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 3: Be like, I just want to live my life. Everyone

741
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 3: else posts on Facebook, bitch or not everyone else? You

742
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: were You were at it as a as a woman

743
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: who lined.

744
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 4: Okay, transracial, let's talk about transracial because that's what she

745
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: identifies with, which, as I was watching this documentary, first

746
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 4: of all, transracial is a term, I just became britty

747
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: too because it's no bitch, yes, it's new. And now

748
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 4: she's using it as if she's known what the fuck

749
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 4: this meant the whole time. Bitch probably just found out

750
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: what transracial meant, and now she's like.

751
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's me. I'm transracial.

752
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 4: I don't I don't identify by my given race, my

753
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 4: my assigned race, you know. And it's just like, well, shit,

754
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 4: like if we're gonna go down that path where you

755
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: can be transracial and you can be trans and you

756
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: can be it's just like at this point, it's like

757
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 4: I could be anything at this point, but I'm a

758
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: poodle right now.

759
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 3: I try to be I am a poodle.

760
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 6: I try to be open spiritually, you know, like am

761
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 6: I Like I really try to be open minded because

762
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 6: I am, and you.

763
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: Know, the possibilities are endless. Who fucking knows what does

764
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: it mean? And this was thought, this was said to them,

765
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: like what does it mean to be black? What does

766
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 3: it mean to be white? Well it said, it said,

767
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 3: why can't I live how I feel? Or but how

768
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 3: do you feel? Feel?

769
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: It's more powerful than how you were born or that

770
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 4: society has put which is it's true.

771
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: Society has created race.

772
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: Society created race two because it's so important for our

773
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 4: minds for some reason, to be able to identify people

774
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: and like draw on label things like the.

775
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 3: Human, which I agree with.

776
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 4: And obviously I'm a product of that because this shit

777
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 4: they'll make no manfucing sense to me. I'm trying to

778
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: be open because I try to be open in so

779
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: many aspects of my life, like you know, being open

780
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 4: to like understanding the trans community and everything, and that

781
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: comes with that because it's it's something that if you're

782
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: not part of that community, it can be very confusing

783
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 4: and you have to educate yourself. So I've educated myself

784
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 4: in that way and it's like okay, well now I

785
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: have to educate myself in this transracial thing, which.

786
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 3: Just seems it just seems a little bit more absurd

787
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: to me. It just doesn't I don't get it. I

788
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 3: don't understand. I don't understand. I mean, there's not a

789
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: suit I understand, but I don't. I don't understand her.

790
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: What a saying first, you know what is race?

791
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 6: Race was created, We're all the human race, and then

792
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 6: saying I'm black, Yeah, then saying I don't see myself

793
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 6: identifying with Caucasian as a white woman ever or any

794
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 6: time in the future.

795
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 3: So if you're claiming I'm just it's human race identified.

796
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: So WHOA? Then what makes you identify with the black communities? Particularly?

797
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: What do you?

798
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: What do you?

799
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: What makes you what? I thought?

800
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: You just said that I there's no such thing as race,

801
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 4: but yet you identify with those And I think.

802
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 6: My biggest problem with that as a black woman is that, unfortunately,

803
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 6: the truth of it is it does come with a

804
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 6: major stigma and there is a lot of shit that

805
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 6: comes with that, the reality of it of actually being

806
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 6: a black woman, and for you to just step in

807
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: and be like this is what I am.

808
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: Yes, there's a lot of things that you never had

809
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: to put up with or deal with, So you sound dumb.

810
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: You can walk in this world and bounce back on

811
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: either side.

812
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 6: Of the line, right, no one else has the option.

813
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 6: We're right, we may not even make it to the

814
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 6: option to do anything. However, on the contrary, it's like,

815
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 6: who the fuck are we to say? Like, he who

816
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 6: really gives a fuck? She's not doing any harm to me?

817
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 6: But who are we to say? Like if we can

818
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 6: say Bruce can be Bruce or Bruce could be Cavil, Yeah,

819
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 6: then why can't you know, Oh.

820
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: Rachel bea.

821
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: Rachel changed her name by the way, Oh my god,

822
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 6: like Neobre Niobi Naobi. It was like Naobi's shiit she

823
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 6: heard in Lion King. It was literally like that was pand.

824
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: Of the movie.

825
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 3: I almost forgot because I was so high and tired.

826
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: But she at the end went to the DMV or

827
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: wherever the fuck you go to legally change her name

828
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: to some.

829
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: African name Mabel. I get it, because she wasn't getting

830
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: no work.

831
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: As Rachel Dola Dola Jall anymore because people know that

832
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: name and they're like, oh, we ain't hiring her for

833
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: our African American studies.

834
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: So maybe Naomi Kajobi will be hired. I don't know that.

835
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, she likes talk about that is

836
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: a whole other thing. Because light skinned people, I mean me,

837
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 3: I'm a light skinned person.

838
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: I don't honestly, I don't encounter the same things that

839
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: you probably encounter, you know what I mean. And that's yeah,

840
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: and people probably even feel more comfortable this is and

841
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: that's just that's just the real, the reality of it. Yes,

842
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: I've encountered racism. You've probably encountered more racism as a

843
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: darker black woman period. And because of that in itself

844
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 4: that she identifies she almost she identifies as a black woman,

845
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: but people look at her and if they believe she's black, they.

846
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 3: Look at her as a light skinned black woman.

847
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: So that in itself was already like hard problematic, but

848
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: then on top of it, you're not actually even black.

849
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 6: She even referred to herself in the film when discussing

850
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 6: her first marriage, she says, I think he married me

851
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 6: because I was a trophy wife, a whitey, a whitey.

852
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: She was like referring to that man's self hate in marrying.

853
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 6: Her, she was calling herself a whitey, and that she

854
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 6: was calling him out for marrying her for that reason,

855
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 6: which is the way she talked about white people. She

856
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 6: has so much self hate.

857
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: But I think this is actually a very She has

858
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: so much self hate.

859
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: That's what this comes down to, is she has so

860
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 4: much self hate because her parents fucked her up, fucked

861
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 4: her up, didn't show her love, didn't make her feel accepted.

862
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure there's so many more factors. I

863
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 4: don't even know that it's just like this. I think

864
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 4: the root of this is just self hate, so much

865
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 4: heat I need to identify with something totally opposite.

866
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 6: But that goes to so that goes even for there's

867
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 6: a lot of black people in the black community who

868
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 6: hate themselves so much. These cause are a lot of

869
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 6: like black men. Even my friends have come across and

870
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 6: talked shit about dating black women. I'm like, dog, you

871
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 6: don't like yourself. I've come around a lot of black

872
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 6: women too who say weird.

873
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: Shit like I don't date black guys. I don't fuck

874
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: with them. They're this, They're like, like, bitch, you're wearing

875
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: blue contacts. You hate yourself? Right? You know what I'm saying.

876
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 6: It's more it happens regularly in the black community. Because

877
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 6: a oh yes, slavery. Oh that we chose to do,

878
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 6: according to Kanye, but we've been implanted with this self

879
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 6: hate for hundreds of years. So honestly, it's psychologically deeply

880
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 6: rooted in US for a billion years. There's things that

881
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 6: black people say that I'm like, oh, my god, you're

882
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: so ignorant. I don't even want to be your friend,

883
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 6: but like not real, like just so many things. So

884
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 6: when we see it happen in the white community, because

885
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: there's privilege that comes with that, it's so unfamiliar.

886
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: We're like, what is this, what's going on? Who are you?

887
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: Why are you lying?

888
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 6: When you get a black girl every day who'd be like, oh,

889
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 6: I'm part of Native American.

890
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 3: Iman a French Puerto Rican, it's like, no, bitch, you're black.

891
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: This okay, this, my that sounds bad.

892
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 6: This is my problem with all black people wanting to

893
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 6: like break down their shit is like, Okay, maybe I

894
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 6: have some issues because whatever, but it's like, we're all mixed.

895
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: It's called slavery. We were getting raped by all types

896
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: of people, so for the most part, we don't really

897
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: know that.

898
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 6: So I choose to identify as an African American woman

899
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 6: because that's what I'm viewed as.

900
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: So it irks me. But we see self hate in

901
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: the black community a lot we never see in the

902
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: white community, and so it's just foreign. It's for and

903
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: we're like, well, you hate yourself, but you want to

904
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 3: be us, bitch, you can get away with so many things.

905
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: You want to be black, all the things. It's hard.

906
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: But why, But why, Rachel?

907
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 6: Why? I was low key like disappointed, Like, bitch can

908
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 6: braid hair, bitch can tie hair, like her hair wraps well,

909
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 6: she's staying up for the community.

910
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: She had faux locks at one point. She's doing more for.

911
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 6: The community than I'm sure I've done in my whole lifetime.

912
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 6: And that's I feel shamed.

913
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: She's doing more. She's doing more than Kanye. Okay, she

914
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: knows more about our culture than I'm probably that I guarantee.

915
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: Than I do.

916
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: You know what happened. Kanye was raised black.

917
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 6: I don't know what happened to him, but then he

918
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 6: got taken in by a rich, wonderful white family and

919
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 6: now he's gone the other way.

920
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: So it's basically the same thing in opposite places.

921
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 6: So this whole episode is basically about selphy and mental

922
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 6: illness and that I mean, we're all kind of crazy.

923
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: We are, but I don't know, like Rachel, like, look,

924
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: I just feel like.

925
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 4: Watching her with Okay, first of all, watching how sad

926
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 4: her kids were was really sad. And as a mother,

927
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm just like, there's nothing in you that's like I

928
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 4: get that you have to live your truth. When your

929
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 4: truth is affecting your children so negatively, you might have

930
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 4: to reevaluate your truth.

931
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 3: Is this is my truth?

932
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 6: Right?

933
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: Is this the truth? Or is this a lie? Or

934
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: is there something wrong?

935
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 4: Yes?

936
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 3: What am I?

937
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 6: And I feel like off camera, her son was like,

938
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 6: you need to get a grip with reality. Her youngest

939
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 6: son was like, why do you have to write this book?

940
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: Why do you have to do this? Why did you

941
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: post that on Instagram?

942
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just told me like you're annoyed and this

943
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 4: pisss you off, and now you're posting about it. And

944
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 4: she said like social media, like she can't stop social media,

945
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 4: like she has a social media addiction.

946
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 6: And it made it didn't lessen my respect that she

947
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 6: wasn't respecting that her son, who seems super smart, was

948
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 6: super affected by Oh my god, talk about the barbershop.

949
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 6: Oh my god.

950
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 4: So then so it was like towards the beginning of

951
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: the movie and they were in the car and she

952
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 4: was like, I'm not going in this time.

953
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 3: I thought they were going to like the fucking PTA meeting.

954
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going in church. No, I can't do it.

955
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: It just all the questions, all the pressure.

956
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 4: I can't.

957
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: I'm not going. I was like, where the fuck are

958
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: they going, my niggae. They pull up and her oldest

959
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 3: brother son is like, Okay, it's cool. I think he

960
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: was like, don't come. And then the youngest one was like, Mom,

961
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: I really want you to come. Please come, come on, Mom,

962
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: come and then they zoom out and it's the barber shop.

963
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 4: And immediately I like burst out laughing because I'm like,

964
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: oh my god, they're being raised by a white woman,

965
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 4: because there's.

966
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 3: No okay, one second I reshare.

967
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 4: I was like, there's no like little black like black

968
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 4: boys fifteen plus don't need their mamas to go to

969
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: the barbershop. That's your mama, go in and sit in

970
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 4: school with you. The barbershop is like a place for

971
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: men and boys. They bond, that's their man. They don't

972
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 4: meet their mother there.

973
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: I was like wow.

974
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: Immediately I was like she white. She's like, this is

975
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 4: where the cracks start to show, right, Like, you need

976
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 4: to take your ass in there and shut up. I'll

977
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 4: be out here waiting. I'll be back in fifteen minutes,

978
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 4: got it.

979
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: Right, Oh my god, I just I don't know, I

980
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: just limitless. People's thoughts and ideas are limitless. And maybe

981
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: she's just They say this in the film too, like

982
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: maybe she's just before her time. But I also thought

983
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 3: it was really interesting. Was so obviously the film's filmed

984
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 3: over a period of time.

985
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 6: So she talks about her father, who she kept referring

986
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 6: to in the media as her father, this black man Albert,

987
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 6: her father had taken a break from her.

988
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, after her dad, her father figure, her father figure

989
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 4: her taking a break from her because I'm sure.

990
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 3: He was bombarded with maybe you know, he's an older

991
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 3: black man.

992
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 6: So later after she goes work to the baby, apparently

993
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 6: he said he took he had to take some time

994
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 6: for hisself. But he came to the conclusion that you know,

995
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 6: her heart was in the right place, and you know,

996
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 6: basically it's her business how she identifies, and who was

997
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 6: he to say that she doesn't feel that way, which

998
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 6: I thought.

999
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: For seventy eighty year old man was pretty progressive, very progressive,

1000
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: very open.

1001
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,919
Speaker 6: He said they bonded because because of their their love

1002
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 6: for civil rights, yeah and yeah, in American African American history,

1003
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 6: and that he was it was endearing for her to

1004
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 6: call him her father, and he took some time off.

1005
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: But I guess he figured, what the hell, I'm doing

1006
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: no harm to nobody. Yeah, okay, so this is bab

1007
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: Oh he didn't have anything. I don't think so. I

1008
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: think he said that like he didn't have any He

1009
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: didn't have because of his own She loves me, you know,

1010
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: you know I was talking about this.

1011
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: I was talking to you about this earlier, about like

1012
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 4: just what you identify with because I mean, for me,

1013
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 4: as a biracial woman, I have always mostly I would,

1014
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: to be perfectly honest, I've mostly identified as a black woman.

1015
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 4: I also identify as Latina because it is a part

1016
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 4: of my life, but being black has always been.

1017
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 3: The stronger, I don't know, the stronger feeling and constant

1018
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: in my mind, in my heart.

1019
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, you think that's cause I h

1020
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 6: do you think that's cause like that's how you think

1021
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 6: people have viewed you because obviously you're primarily raised by

1022
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 6: your l like you.

1023
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 3: I think it's a mixture of a lot of things.

1024
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: Some of them fucked up because I think because I

1025
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 4: am half black and I've I feel like, like I

1026
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 4: was telling about colorism within the black community, and always

1027
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: having to prove that I'm black and like be black

1028
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: enough has made me be more attached to being black.

1029
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 4: Mm being Latina, I'd never had that fight, right right right,

1030
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 4: People are like more like when I tell like, uh,

1031
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 4: Mexican or Guatemala or El Salvadorian, then I'm a Mexican.

1032
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: They embraced me. They don't try to they don't try

1033
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: to question.

1034
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 4: It, right right, right, Well, there's a lot of I

1035
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: found a lot of questioning within my own community of

1036
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: what I am, which I think is probably why I've

1037
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 4: gravitated towards identifying as a black woman more because like

1038
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: trying to also, but I love I love, I love

1039
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 4: being black, you know. And so I was saying to you, like, okay, so,

1040
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 4: but okay, so I'm half black. But then there's other

1041
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 4: women that are half black and half white, and they

1042
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 4: mostly identify as white because maybe where they grew up,

1043
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 4: maybe they didn't grow up around black people, maybe their parents,

1044
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: maybe they were adopted, maybe who knows what, whatever circumstance

1045
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 4: it is. And then like, is that wrong because they're

1046
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: identifying as white? Does that mean that they're trans racial?

1047
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 4: Does that mean that they're confused because that's what they

1048
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 4: identify with. I don't think it's wrong. I think that

1049
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: a lot of cases.

1050
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 6: Or is that?

1051
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's offensive, It can be if it's offensive.

1052
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 4: If I wasn't have a black person, If I am

1053
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: half and I identified as white, black people would be

1054
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 4: very offended by that, right, you know. Whereas if I'm

1055
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 4: a black and white people would and care, you know,

1056
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: Whereas I'm a half black woman and I identify as

1057
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 4: a black woman, you know, white people don't care either.

1058
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: They don't carry the way, you know what I mean.

1059
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 4: But the black community would have such an opinion about that.

1060
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 4: So I just wondering, like this, how what are these

1061
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 4: lines of trans racial and the idea of transracialism. That's

1062
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: where it gets really confusing. Could she have a transracial friend?

1063
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 4: I know somebody who doesn't you know, a transracial She

1064
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 4: doesn't know she's transracial, but I view her as transracial

1065
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 4: because she is in denial of her blackness. Oh, she's

1066
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 4: in denial of her black She doesn't identify as a

1067
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 4: black woman.

1068
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: It's not that she doesn't say she's black, but it's

1069
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 3: not like she's said she she doesn't get it. She'll

1070
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 3: be like, I'm Native American? Is she black? She's very mixed.

1071
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 3: She looks like there's definitely some black in her, but

1072
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 3: she can tell that there's some other shit.

1073
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 4: But okay, that kind of I mean even in her Okay,

1074
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 4: this sounds so shallow, even in her Instagram description.

1075
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: I hate that it has white and Native America okay,

1076
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: and didn't know black. No, okay, okay, she recently changed it. No, No,

1077
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: I'm happy you brought that up because that is a

1078
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: pet peeve of mine. I literally hate that shit because,

1079
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: oh god, I don't I don't know why. Like, first

1080
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 3: of all, I think that only black people do that.

1081
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 6: You only see black people really or mixed black people

1082
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 6: like Puerto Rican Native America.

1083
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 9: What the fuck kind of we only have like seventy characters,

1084
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 9: that's what's important, you fucking morons. I know black people

1085
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 9: who like are Puerto Rican, but literally don't know shit

1086
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 9: about Puerto Rico.

1087
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 6: Don't know one fucking look of Spanish, never been there,

1088
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 6: don't know that side of their family, but they got

1089
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 6: like the Puerto Rican flag tattooed, and it's cool, But like,

1090
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 6: this is my issue if I know your upbringing and

1091
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 6: I know you don't have any real knowledge or association

1092
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 6: in that, and you're like clinging to it because you

1093
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 6: think that is more like beautiful or acceptable, because that's

1094
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 6: the issue in the black community.

1095
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: Putting it on your fucking bio.

1096
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 6: Even I really dislike the hashtag mixed baby, mixed kid.

1097
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: Like I have two friends that are black, and constantly

1098
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: I see the.

1099
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 6: Mixed baby, mixed babies hashtag hashtag and I'm sure they're

1100
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 6: white skin, they got green eyes.

1101
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 3: But I know them. But how about that we can

1102
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 3: look at you and know we got it. You make yeah, wait,

1103
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: Like I'm just gonna scroll down.

1104
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 6: But Matt, like, it is a phaave of mine because

1105
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 6: for black people is there's such a lack of pride.

1106
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 6: It's so it represents so much ignorance to me. It

1107
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 6: really hurts me because it's so amazing to be black.

1108
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 6: And of course we've bet a fucked up history and

1109
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 6: we've been fed a lot of fucked up things, and

1110
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 6: of course, like when you come to your like the

1111
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 6: first thing you learned in school about being we are

1112
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 6: so resilient, we are We're still here. We're still here

1113
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 6: doing great, amazing things despite all these years of destruction

1114
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 6: and fucked up this Who could continue?

1115
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 3: But literally, what was gonna say? Oh fuck, what was

1116
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,720
Speaker 3: I gonna say? It's just insane. It's a mixed hashtag,

1117
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 3: the mixed hashi. He drives me nuts.

1118
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 6: And I'm like, am I just like an angry black woman?

1119
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 6: Like am I not giving them their space to be mixed?

1120
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 6: Because maybe I'm angry, Like I need to do my

1121
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 6: DNA test so I can't.

1122
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 4: Put it on like I know, i'mould say that as

1123
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 4: a biracial woman if you want to get technical with it,

1124
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: like I am mixed with different things and so like

1125
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 4: for me, I speak Spanish, you know. My grandmother's Mexican.

1126
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: My mother my grandfather was Portuguese Irish. He I don't really, honestly,

1127
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 4: it's interesting. I'm not sure how he identified to the world.

1128
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: He looks white now. He was Irish Portuguese, so but

1129
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: he didn't grow up in Portugal, you know what I mean?

1130
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 4: His father was born in Portugal. I don't think he

1131
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: even spoke Portuguese.

1132
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 3: And in the Bay, the Bay Area, so I mean.

1133
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 4: Back then, it's such a different looks like people think

1134
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: my mom's Middle Eastern or Persian.

1135
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, your mom doesn't necessarily look like a Mexican woman,

1136
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 6: like like a stereotypical you know what I'm saying, Like

1137
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 6: you could you could wonder.

1138
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1139
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 4: I mean, my grandma's Mexican, Mexican and Spanish, so there's

1140
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 4: there is this beautiful mix that you kind of at

1141
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 4: least for me, like I like to acknowledge the different

1142
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 4: parts of me, however I do.

1143
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 3: I what I identify with is I identify as a

1144
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:40,479
Speaker 3: black woman.

1145
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 4: The causes of the causes of the black community are

1146
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: like something that are that rowed me.

1147
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: Up much more than like a white issue. Even though

1148
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 3: I am part white, I am right part white, and

1149
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 3: but I'm also you.

1150
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 6: Know, I think that's what bothers me. The black issue

1151
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 6: has been and is such an issue that too. It's

1152
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 6: so easy to say.

1153
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 3: Okay, we can argument, Mommy, I don't like shrimp, child,

1154
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 3: force it down. You do like shrimp, I like shim

1155
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 3: you like I don't like it. Little love shrimp a

1156
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: very classy eating baby.

1157
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 6: I guess, I guess that's what it is, like the

1158
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 6: issue if you're even half black and you don't recognize

1159
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 6: the superinjustice in America, that baffles me. It's easy to

1160
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 6: identify other because it's it's privilege, it's the truth, it's

1161
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 6: i mean, not necessarily black, and I feel like black

1162
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 6: and Latin it's the same. But even there's racist shit

1163
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 6: between us, but just retarded. But I think that's what

1164
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 6: rous me up, because there is so much ship that

1165
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 6: comes with being black, and when you want to try

1166
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 6: so hard to disregard.

1167
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 3: That, it's like we need as much people as we

1168
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 3: can get to represent and to have product. We have

1169
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: to move our beauty, our excellence. So we've had to

1170
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: prove it. It wasn't just like accept it, right, Okay, babe,

1171
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: you don't have to eat shrimp. Okay, you're so damn cute. Yeah.

1172
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 4: I think because of that whole struggle of we're still

1173
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 4: proving our beauty, we're still proving.

1174
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: Our excellent We're on high point right now.

1175
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: You don't see white people like having causes of like

1176
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 4: white is beautiful, you know, like you don't see like

1177
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 4: white is beautiful and like white girl magic.

1178
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: Like you know, like if you do, it's only because

1179
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 3: they like are like well and black girls can do it.

1180
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: If so, this is another thing like growing up in

1181
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: the valley.

1182
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 6: I'm sure you know, like we brow up the valley

1183
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 6: and every school I've ever been to, I've been like

1184
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 6: one of five black people.

1185
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: There were two black girls in my grade, me and

1186
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 3: another bi racial one.

1187
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 6: We will be like, okay together, we yeaqual one in

1188
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 6: my high school there was one other black girl, one

1189
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 6: other mixed girl. I mean, most of my school was Filipino,

1190
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 6: even my elementary school, Like I have two other black people,

1191
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 6: I know them both still now, like there was none.

1192
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: So it's like it was it was a thing, you

1193
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like I don't know, so growing

1194
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: up in the valley, shit I forgot. I was gonna

1195
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 3: say again, Oh, I just.

1196
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 4: Think we're more sensitive. We might be more hyper sensitive

1197
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: to Oh No, I know, actually that's not true. I

1198
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't say we're more hyper sensitive to it. I think

1199
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: maybe we're almost late to the party. And that's why.

1200
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure you probably were like aware of

1201
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 4: the differences in the way you retreated. But like I

1202
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 4: feel like I remember the first you know, your feelings

1203
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 4: were probably like, oh, that's don't that wasn't it, Like

1204
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 4: that wasn't racist.

1205
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 3: She didn't mean it. No, I knew. I was like five,

1206
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 3: and I remember like going to my friend this guy's house.

1207
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 3: Let's talk about this.

1208
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 6: I had like a middle recent boyfriend in kindergarten. You

1209
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 6: would ask me why I was allowed to go to

1210
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 6: his house, but we did. I had a playdate and

1211
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 6: his older brothers had a friend who was white. And

1212
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 6: I don't know what he said.

1213
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 3: It was very vague, but it was something to the

1214
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: effect like why does he have that black girl over here?

1215
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 3: Why did you Brad have a black friend? Or something.

1216
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 3: It was something like that, and I remember like like.

1217
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 6: I remember just sitting in the living room for the

1218
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 6: rest of the time and coloring by myself because I

1219
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 6: felt so weird about it. And then I remember again

1220
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 6: in fifth grade. I don't know why we're flashing in

1221
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 6: fifth grade, but like you're trying to make us flash

1222
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 6: flat as a board, and I remember thinking like flash,

1223
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 6: like flash the boys like the boy to try to make.

1224
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 3: Us flash them. And I remember thinking like, oh, my

1225
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: boobs are going to be brown, Like I'm not black.

1226
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1227
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 4: These thoughts, but like so you probably saw your friend's

1228
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 4: breasts and were like mine don't look like.

1229
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it was it was just like you were

1230
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 3: the minority yeah in the group.

1231
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, like physically and just technically like that that one

1232
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 6: kindergarten experience, like somewhere was rooted.

1233
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: But imber I remember that, you know, like oddly enough.

1234
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 6: But yeah, there's a lot of It's it's an interesting

1235
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 6: topic because you could feel so many different ways and

1236
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 6: I didn't. And I'm about, you know, like representing your

1237
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 6: your culture one hundred percent, but as a black woman,

1238
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 6: I just I think it's such a cop out if

1239
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 6: you only have seventy two characters to think it's that

1240
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 6: important to add Native American and like super shit like that,

1241
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 6: because we're all Native American, we're all white, you know

1242
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

1243
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 4: Like, well, this girl also was like from like like

1244
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 4: the whitest of the white town, like exactly what I said,

1245
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 4: Like didn't identify as a black person because her parents didn't.

1246
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 4: Her mixed mom didn't identify as a black woman because

1247
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 4: they lived in like Connecticut and like Martha's vineyards.

1248
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I knew Martha from Connecticut, and I

1249
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 3: didn't really know her. I went out with her once

1250
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 3: with some guys and this ship.

1251
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 6: She said the whole dinner. I was appalled by her

1252
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 6: white meess. I was appalled. I was like, I sawt

1253
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 6: you guys know, I don't know this bitch. They were

1254
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 6: not black, but I was like, oh my god. And

1255
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 6: her dad was in her life, who was black, but

1256
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 6: apparently he was like She's like, yeah, they call my

1257
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 6: dad like uncle Tom. I'm like, oh, makes sense, because bitch,

1258
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 6: you're embarrassing the shit out of me.

1259
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 3: It was so embarrassing, like she really thought she was.

1260
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: Well, that just shows you that where you're from plays

1261
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: such a huge factor. Because this girl that I know

1262
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 4: is from like Martha's vineyard. It's an island full of

1263
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 4: like rich, like beach white people that like don't have

1264
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: to interact with anybody else except who's on that island.

1265
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 4: It becomes literally like yeah, like survive not survivor, but

1266
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 4: you're like you're on that one ever on island.

1267
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 3: No one ever like alienated you because you are on

1268
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 3: that smile island. You're in denial. That's she's really like

1269
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: skin She probably could maybe she was like a little different.

1270
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 4: She was not going to get the same ridicule as

1271
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 4: like a dark skinned little black girl living on Martha's

1272
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 4: vineyard versus a light skinned like I'm sure she did,

1273
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 4: but it's just different.

1274
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 6: I should be more open and like not like immediately

1275
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 6: judge people who are certain ways because they're because it's Sue,

1276
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 6: it's environment, and who knows how much I can impact

1277
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 6: you and teach you. But like, there's certain I have

1278
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 6: friends who like always say like colorless things like oh

1279
01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 6: because you light skin?

1280
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 4: Oh my, my bros pisses me off. I get that

1281
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 4: shit all the time from like myn my one of

1282
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 4: my best friends. He used to be like, what's that

1283
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 4: light skin? I'd be like, stack, are you acting light skin?

1284
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1285
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 2: And what is that?

1286
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 3: What does that anything mean?

1287
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 4: Or like I'm bougie automatically because I'm light skinny, I

1288
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: am bougie.

1289
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 3: Fuck you. And you know, it's just like and but

1290
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: that has nothing to do with whether I'm light or not.

1291
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: Or she was.

1292
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 3: It was like a dark skin girl, but she was

1293
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: or she was pretty. Let me kill her. Okay one second,

1294
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 3: I'm telling yeah, yeah, I mean, it's just I've even

1295
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: been asked you're so pretty? What are you mixed with?

1296
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 3: Like black and black?

1297
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 5: Hm?

1298
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 3: Can we chart it? No, it's true, Like that's not

1299
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: that's not a compliment. It's so funny the things people say.

1300
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 3: It's insane.

1301
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,960
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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 4: the racial Divide. You can see for yourself and see

1303
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 4: what kind of you know, conclusion you come you come

1304
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: out with from that because I felt all types of

1305
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 4: different ways watching it. I paused it about one hundred times,

1306
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 4: rewound it.

1307
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 3: Just what did she just say?

1308
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 6: We even looked up like some of the top excerpts

1309
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 6: from her book, which just came out and apparently sold

1310
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 6: five hundred and ninety six copies.

1311
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 4: But it's deep, Yeah, there's yeah, Oh my god, I

1312
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 4: wish we had didn't we say baby book? Anyway, we

1313
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 4: needed a book work. We need to say at least one.

1314
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 4: But you know, I don't know how to find a bookmark.

1315
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 4: But I would say definitely check it out because.

1316
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 6: It's just and also check out that confusing as Kanye

1317
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 6: Charlotte Maine interview. You know, it's even more ironic because

1318
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 6: we talked about this Charlotte Maine interviewing Kanye and Charlottagne

1319
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 6: has like clearly lightened his skin twenty seven shades. So

1320
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 6: we were like, it's like a he's this self hating interviewer,

1321
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 6: like interviewing this obviously confused guy.

1322
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 3: It's pretty ironic. Did you find it?

1323
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1324
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 4: Oh, she pretended to be black by covering herself in

1325
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: mud when she was a kid. Keep going, I'd stir

1326
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 4: the water from the hose into the earth and make thin,

1327
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 4: soupy mud, which I would then rub on my hands, arms, feets,

1328
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: and legs. Dolige All wrote, I would pretend to be

1329
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 4: a dark skinned princess and the Sahara Desert and one

1330
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 4: of the Bantu women living in the Congo.

1331
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: Imagining I was a.

1332
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 4: Different person living in a different place was one of

1333
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 4: the few ways that I could escape the oppressive environment

1334
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 4: I was raised in.

1335
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 3: S and then also may her were like amish clothes.

1336
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 6: She says, she.

1337
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 3: Picked the brown crayon to color herself. I remember that

1338
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 3: in the documentary, I never picked the peach.

1339
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 4: I usually peach simply didn't resonate with me. Dolison Dolis Dope.

1340
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 4: Dolige All claims feeling that I was somehow different from

1341
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 4: my family. Rachel Dolijeall loves the story of Miss Jane Pittman,

1342
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: a fictional black woman.

1343
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 3: Oh man, there's just I mean, maybe she has a

1344
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: bit of some black soul in her. Who knows how

1345
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: soul works, who knows what piece of black soul she got?

1346
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: She became a woke soul sister. Oh yeah, that was

1347
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 3: her favorite quote.

1348
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 6: What was it doing?

1349
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 4: Her time as a professor at North Idaho College and

1350
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: Eastern Washington University, Dolijeall felt at peace with her racial identity.

1351
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 4: I was a blackst beautiful Black liberation movement, fully conscious,

1352
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: woke soul sister.

1353
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 6: That comment, we can just end on that comment right there,

1354
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 6: because she was blackest beautiful black liberation movement, woke soul system.

1355
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 6: That's like a self quote. That's intense. I wouldn't even

1356
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 6: I don't know black is beautiful.

1357
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: She said, just as a transgender person might be born

1358
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 4: male but identify as female. I wasn't protect to be

1359
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 4: something I wasn't, but expressing something I already was. I

1360
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: wasn't passing as black. I was black and there was

1361
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 4: no going back. But you sued Howard as a white woman,

1362
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 4: got it?

1363
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 3: Okay?

1364
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 6: Well, both Kanye and Rachel are both very confused about

1365
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 6: many things in reality.

1366
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 3: And maybe today, when we smoke the rest of this blant,

1367
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 3: we could go off to fairytale land too. I'm gonna

1368
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 3: smoke the rest of this blunt and I act like

1369
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: none of this happened.

1370
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a white woman tomorrow, and I act

1371
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 4: like I got shit to get done. I am a

1372
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: rich Caucasian woman.

1373
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 3: In the words of Joan the Scanner, Joan the Scanner,

1374
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm a Caucasian woman. Get out of my way, Get out.

1375
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 4: Of my Caucasian home. Anyway, guys, well, thanks for tuning in.

1376
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 4: You know this is a hot topic. So if you

1377
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: guys have any opinions, or if you guys have seen

1378
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 4: this documentary and let us know in our comments.

1379
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: We wanna know what you guys think, because you know,

1380
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 3: we're open, we need we need some I think the

1381
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: bitch is crazy, but but then do you think transgender

1382
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 3: people are crazy? Oh my god, please, do you make

1383
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: the transgender community come for me. I'm not I'm just kidding.

1384
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 3: I was just trying to like get it. I was

1385
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: trying to get juicy, but just kidding. Okay, I didn't

1386
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: say that anyway, we'll tune in next time. Have some

1387
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: juicy stuff though, and I'll be healthy. I throw these

1388
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 3: made back cheese. I wear my heart on the sleeve.

1389
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: I know we're weeding new slaves.

1390
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 3: I see the blood on the least. I see the

1391
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 3: blood on the least. I see the blood on the least.

1392
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 3: I know that weeding new slaves.

1393
01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 4: I see the blood on the least.

1394
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 3: They throwing hate at me.

1395
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: Want me to stay at ease, Fuck you win your corporation, y'all.

1396
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: Niggas can't control me. I know that weeding new slave.

1397
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,560
Speaker 1: I know that weed a new slave. I'm about the

1398
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: why the fuck out? I'm going by people shape. I

1399
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: know that puss he ain't freeing you, niggas. Pussy ain't me,

1400
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: and you're throwing contracts with me. You know that niggas

1401
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 1: can't read it. Don't want some made back ease fucking

1402
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: clave b. I know where that weed the new state, y'all.

1403
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: Niggas can't fuck with me, y'all. Niggas can't fuck with yam. Y'all,

1404
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: niggas can't fuck with ya. I'll move my family out

1405
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: the country. Say you can't see why I stay, So

1406
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: go and grab the reporters to I smashtay recorder, sit

1407
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: in CONFUSI Swiss and bullshit like the New World Order. Meanwhile,

1408
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: the d e an team don't with the c c A.

1409
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 1: They tried DoD niggas up. They try and make new

1410
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: steak contein.

1411
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 3: That's that.

1412
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: Probably your present, get your peace today. They probably y'all

1413
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: in the half this raggingbout what they man, fuck you

1414
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: and your half the house. I fuck your hamp This

1415
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: spouse came on at half ten plaifs and in our

1416
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: half the in mouth.

1417
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: Y'all about to turn ship up.

1418
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm about to tear shit dowmn, I'm about to add

1419
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 1: shit out.

1420
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 3: Now, what the fuck they're gonna say now