WEBVTT - Model Behavior with Andrea Boccaletti... 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.319 you a Charlotte. This is very exciting because we have 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:14.280 the one, the only, Andrea Boogletti who plays Derek in 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:19.079 episode I guess it's a technically episode two, is that right? 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.560 Models immortals of the original season of Sexton City, and 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:29.400 you play this very elusive character who's much discussed and 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.199 much missed over time, and it's so amazing to have 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.160 you and I really appreciate you being here. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:37.240 You have many many questions. 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.360 It's such a pleasure to be here and to see 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:40.279 you again after. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.360 So long, I know, I mean so long. 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:44.520 Yeah. I think I saw you at a movie theater 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.960 across from Lincoln Center for some premiere one time, and 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.160 that's the last time I ever saw. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:50.760 One of the beds. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:52.960 Do you remember how there's one where we had like 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.880 beds outside where I was like, what did Peggy do? 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.080 Peggy remember Peggy the event planner? And they were like 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.920 crazy parties. Yeah, I remember that. I remember that, and 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.679 I remember thinking, because I wasn't there when you worked, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:10.080 you know, only sure Jessica was right, and especially back then, 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.880 we moved so quickly, you know, and so like if 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:15.200 you weren't in the storylines with the other people. You 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:16.720 just kind of missed out and you couldn't wait to 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.600 see it, you know in the finish first no better 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.440 than well, I mean that's how it was, and that's 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.720 how we felt about you, and I think because you 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.360 played such an interesting character who was based on a 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:30.480 real model, but you were also modeling correct before. Okay, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:34.080 So take me back to what your life was like 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:35.040 in nineteen ninety seven. 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:41.360 What you remember, Well, I really wanted to quit modeling, Okay. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.440 I had done it for four years, four and a 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.759 half years, and it really burnt out and I had 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:46.440 it up to here. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:47.400 It's a hard job. 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.040 Yeah, it was just grueling, the traveling, just never being 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.840 able to settle down ey. Yeah, and never have a relationship. Yeah, 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:56.560 it was just. 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:58.960 Never have a dog over like, I don't know if 0:01:58.960 --> 0:01:59.720 you're in the dogs. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.600 Right, I just don't have a one point. I traveled 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.320 more than flight attendants did. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:04.800 Wow. 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.359 So I mean that's being super successful, but it's also 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:09.600 very very difficult. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:10.400 Yeah. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.720 So you were already at the right age of twenty eight. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.800 Wow, burnt You were burnt on the modeling yeap. Okay, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.360 so you wanted to act. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.959 I wanted to act, and so I was. I got 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.800 with an agency named Jamichael Bloom. Yeah, and they were 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.400 handling a couple of people. More even Jamcho Bloom was 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.160 handling handling a couple of people. I wanted to make 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:36.400 the transition from modeling into acting, right, And this was 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.280 the first audition, amazing, No. 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.959 Way, do you remember how many times you had to 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:42.360 go in. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:43.920 I went in twice. 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:44.880 Oh that's pretty good. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.400 Just the initial audition and then the callback with. 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:50.880 Sarah, got it, got it. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.000 And to prepare for that, I went and just went 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.239 to a video store and I rented any movie that 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.760 I could find with Sarah and how fun. And just 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.480 want to get familiar with her because I knew that 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:03.760 I was going to have to be right in front 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.520 of her and yeah, doing the lines with her, and 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.480 I need to be comfortable. Yeah, I already knew her. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:10.359 Did it work out? 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.720 It did? Actually helped a lots to. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:13.520 Work with she is. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.600 Yeah, I mean I think sometimes right, And I mean, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:21.760 you're so great, You're so great. In that episode, I 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.120 was like, why did we not have him back? 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:24.480 Why? 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:24.760 No? 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.080 I was supposed to come back in the eighth episode. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:34.200 Then Dennis Herdman, who is Theren's boyfriend. Yes, just he said, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.520 don't take you personally. The writing just took a turn, 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:40.200 and that's what happens. And I was really bombed. Maybe 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.720 if I had been in season two, I would I 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.960 might have been able to develop more of a character 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.320 or something. But I know, sure season it was about 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.160 all your experiences. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.040 And mister big so that is very valid. But I 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:57.840 feel I feel two things. Number One, you know, we 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.080 had these for season one. Once we got picked up here, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.360 you know, we were I was here in La, Michael 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:05.760 was here in La, Michael Patrick King, Darren was here 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:07.760 in La and we got picked up. But Darren had 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.880 the writer's room here in LA with a bunch of 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.800 writers that we literally never met. We don't even still know, 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.040 Like I don't know who they are. I could see 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:16.960 one in the hall, I wouldn't know that they were them. 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.400 So we didn't have our team yet, you know, really 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.520 like congealed, and later on we would get them and 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.400 we would had Michael Patrick King that we had. I 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.520 believe at one point we had six women writers, which 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.960 was great, but we were kind of just leaping off 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.400 of Candace's book and Candace had this story in there 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.640 based on that other model who apparently auditioned to play 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.400 himself but they told him he was too old. 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:41.280 That's crazy, isn't it. We were friends, I know, we're 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:45.160 friends is the magic word. Because something happened at that 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:48.960 premiere party after it premiered and we were all there, 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.159 and the party I don't remember where it was. It 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.360 was somewhere on the West Side. It was a cool 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.960 little club, and I don't know. This reporter came up 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.360 to me from I think from the Daily News right 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.600 and asked me about, you know, how it was to 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.280 have been chosen to play the part and how it 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.960 was shooting, and then he asked me about why he 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.240 thinks that Michael Bergan didn't Why do I think Michael 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.560 Bergan didn't get it? And I said, well, you know, 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.039 it's probably because he's on Baywatch and he was on 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.800 Baywatch at the time. Yeah, I forgot that. And this 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:30.080 reporter added a line that I never said that really acted. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.880 It sounded like I said something bad about Michael and 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.799 it ended up in the Daily News or Russian Maloy 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.560 column and I remember Russian and it was just awful. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.160 It just hit me so hard and I just felt 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.560 terrible and I had to put out, well, for lack 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:47.720 of a better word, I had to put out a 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:49.640 lot of fires. People were calling me, what the hell 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.320 did you say? I mean, lesson learned. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:55.479 Lesson learned, for sure. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.680 But honestly, I've been doing this a long time, as 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:03.000 you know, and there's crazy gossip has always been around 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.400 us here. I'm doing the podcast where I'm literally in charge. Right. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.080 The clickbait headlines that they come up with over what 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:10.720 I'm saying on. 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:15.200 This podcast shock even me after thirty years. I'm like, what, Like, 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:16.640 I made a joke one time. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.000 I should know better, right, but it's hard. I'm here talking. 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:20.719 It's very intimate, do you know what I mean? I 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:22.880 made a joke saying that Sarah Jessica was still mad 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.240 about the bridesmaid's dresses I made. I didn't make it 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.280 war that Pat made her wear in Charlotte's wedding. They're 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.120 like headlines, Sara Jessica's still mad at Kristin. I'm like, 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.320 oh my gosh, joke you guys, yeah, I mean, it's insane, It. 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.280 Is really crazy. So anyway, with this, this reporter said, 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.560 and what he printed was vocal that he says of Bergen. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:45.520 It's probably because he's on Baywatch and that's not sane much, 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.840 so it really looks like I put him down. Oh no, 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.200 I never would have done that. We were friends, but 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.120 again we have not spoken since that time. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.640 Oh no, oh, I wish we could fix that. It's 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:57.560 the worst. 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.480 Feeling in the world when something like this happens and 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.760 you can't con troll it because you're You're just a 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:05.080 nice person in the middle of this insanity. You know, naive, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.279 well naive, but also even I mean, I'm not naive anymore, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.120 but I still say stuff that still happens, right, Yeah, 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.160 that I think is fine because I know what I mean, right, 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:17.440 But in print it can look a different way if 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.200 they want to make it look a different way, right, 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.560 that's the thing. So so tell me what you remember 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:29.160 about filming the whole sequence, because obviously my favorite part 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.080 is when you get back to Carrie's and you're like, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:32.440 can we just get lay here? 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.160 Can we just cuddle? I don't know what you say. 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:35.960 It is the cutest thing in the world. I think 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:36.680 you're incredible. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.720 Not my lines, but yeah, I mean it was it 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:44.480 was fun experience that day. I don't remember too much 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.560 about that day, except for us having to wait a 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.320 long time because like some of the girls, I don't know, 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.960 there was a scene. I don't know. Maybe if you 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:54.800 said you weren't there, then it wasn't the scene with 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.440 all of you, but it was the scene with one 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:01.080 of the others with other kin Control or Synthianni, where 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.280 we had to wait a while because they were take 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.640 after take after take of the same this. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.239 Is the way, this is the way. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:12.080 And quite ironically and our scene we never did anything 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.040 more than four times. I don't think any more than. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:18.200 Four takes you that's amazing. 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.920 But so I don't remember much about that day. I 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.440 remember about being on the bed with her, just being 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:28.080 in the apartment, moving around from the kitchen, over to 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:32.680 the bookshelf and into the bed. But I remember that 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.600 when it came time for the pan the panning up 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:41.200 from the floor like the morning after, and I'm lying 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:45.120 beside her, and Alison McLean was the director. I just 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.000 remember to have this idea to really hide myself to 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.640 that you don't even know that I'm in the bed, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:56.679 which is super when the camera's panning up and uh, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.920 and then you finally see me in the phone rings 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:04.200 and it's really Stanford. Yeah yeah, oh god, God rest 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:04.560 his soul. 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:07.680 I know, I know I was going to get right. 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:08.959 I want to talk about him yet. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:13.600 But anyway, I just remember that and it's just a 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.160 really super nice day and I was I was a 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.440 little bit nervous, and I asked Sarah like how am 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.640 I doing? And she's like, you're great, and she's again 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:21.480 very supporting. 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:22.000 I'm so glad. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me about Willy. What do 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.439 you remember about Willie? Because the scene where you're in 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:27.719 the fashion show when they come to see you, it 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:28.600 is so so good. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.520 I don't remember much about William. I think we shot 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.560 that scene in a club called Cameo. 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.680 Okay. I was wondering where. 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:43.000 Was interesting off of what was that third half? 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:44.720 And you, I don't know. I didn't get to go 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.640 there and the whole beginning. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.320 In terms of like locations, I was just like, I 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:50.319 don't know where we are? 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:51.360 You know what I mean? 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:52.319 Are you from out here? 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.160 I am from South Carolina and I had moved here 0:09:55.400 --> 0:10:00.360 right before, maybe like three years before the show, maybe more, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.160 but I did Melrose here, so I was already working 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.600 here with Darren and then I got the show, but 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.760 I had lived there first and then here. But I 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:09.600 don't seem like it, Like when I see the pilot, 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:12.840 I'm like that that girl that know nothing about New York. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:14.800 That's what I think to myself, you know what I mean? 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:16.680 Thank you so much. 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.920 It evolved though, as you said, it evolved, It evolved 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.920 for sure. But I mean I remember, like when I 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.640 look back now, because I had not seen these episodes 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.000 in almost thirty years. I saw them in the when 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.560 they first were made. They would send us phs tapes 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:36.160 and we would excitedly watch them. But those bars and 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:40.320 clubs whatever, I mean, they look like they look like 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.360 we just found a basement and threw some people in it. 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:43.120 You know. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:46.360 But is that is that what they were? Like? 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:46.440 Like? 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:48.800 Are they real? I mean, is Cameo like a real place? 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.000 That was a real club? 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:50.400 Wow? 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:53.360 I don't think i'd ever been I'd maybe been there 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:58.200 for one other event, but yeah, it was actually near 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.320 my house because I lived on tenth in the Universe City. 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:05.000 Actually funny right near Christopher bump into him a few times. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:12.640 But also what a great address. That's dreamy, Albert. How great? 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.600 Okay, so you go on the show. It goes, well, 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:17.400 you think you're going to be an episode eight. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.440 They had told you this. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.800 I was put on a veil, okay, and it canceled 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.240 I think three weeks before. 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:27.560 Well, I don't even remember what episode eight is neither interesting. 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:28.760 You should have watched it again. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.559 Darn it, don't know. That's okay? But and then you 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.560 never heard anything else. 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:36.199 Yeah, you were discussed. Yeah, I want to come back 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.280 in one of the movies. I thought maybe they'd called 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.800 me back. Maybe Derek comes back, and he's not not 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:43.240 so much of a nice guy. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:48.160 And so many things, so many things. And then, I mean, 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:50.640 I feel like we talked about you forever and everybody 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:51.880 was always like, where's Derek. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:53.240 Where's Derek? 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:54.520 You know what I mean? Where is he? 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.000 What happened to him? Why can't we see him? 0:11:57.280 --> 0:12:01.800 I remember being at the second year, the wrap party 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.120 for your second season, and all of the girls, all 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:06.760 of you were the bone. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.720 The yes because we were always just talking about you 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:11.800 and waiting for you to come back. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.200 I missed you, girls. I mean I cried. Actually, you 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:18.960 know the last day of my third day of filming 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:23.720 was at Silver Cup Studios, Yes, and I asked to 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.439 be dropped off I mean I was being dropped off 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.280 at like five thirty in the morning. That's how we 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.600 rolled in the night of shooting. Yes, and I asked 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.800 to be dropped off two and a half blocks or 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:38.280 three blocks from my house and and I just remember 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.440 fully crying, and I had this little video camera with me, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.680 and I was filming myself. I was doing a selfie 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:49.080 before selfie. Wow, filming myself crying because I was just 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.600 it was so emotional. I had such a nice time 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.719 and a fun time doing that. 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:59.319 And yeah, so wow, wow, Well we missed out by 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:02.800 not having you back because your energy in that episode 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.480 with her, because she's so kind of you know, she's thinking, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.800 and she's so kind of crackly and you know, together 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:10.880 and you're just. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.679 So simple but also so beautiful. Like it's such an 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.040 interesting contrast. 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:17.800 And then also Willie's. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.760 So like, you know, uh into you, and you know, 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:24.240 doing his whole stick really like you know of like 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.000 I'm your manager, but I'm really in love with you. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:28.440 There's just so much great stuff. 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.440 I wish that we had had a better My memory 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.040 of the first season is that we didn't know if 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.839 we were a comedy or if we were supposed to 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:37.880 be pushing the sexuality. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.880 So like one week Darren would say like funny, everyone 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.319 has to be funny, come on, be. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.840 Funny, and we would just be like, uh, did you 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.480 change the script or we're just supposed to be funnier 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.000 with what's written, Like what do you mean? 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:50.719 And then the next week you'd be like sexy er 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:51.640 and I'd. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.000 Be like me, me, me, like really, like there's no 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.080 I'm not okay, but what you know, we were very much. 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.200 I mean, it got it work so well, it did. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.720 I mean it worked well eventually, I think because HBO 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:06.280 allowed us to flail around like that. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:06.600 You know. 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.000 Actually, it's funny. They cut one line from my whole, 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.400 from everything that I did in those three days, and 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:17.040 maybe it was too risky. At the moment break before 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.920 we Sarah and I get into the cab to go 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:22.320 to her apartment, I said, you know, I can't take 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.000 these crowds, you know, to me whatever, I need to 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.560 get out of here. And I said, I have a joint. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.680 I didn't cut that before you get in the cab, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.600 and they cut that. Yeah, that's so that's too risque. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:37.040 That was too pushing the pushing it too far for. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:37.920 That that's crazy. 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:39.720 First ever episode after the pilot. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.960 That's so crazy because it makes perfect sense. Also, I 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.040 do think that might be the last time I remember 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.600 her talking to camera because you get in the cab 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.480 and then she has to like turn isn't that when 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:50.920 she has to turn over. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:52.960 The cab and talk to the camera, which is so 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.640 awkward and weird. There's a lot of fans who were like, 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.480 we love the talking to the camera, but can you 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.200 imagine like you're doing a scene and then you just 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.040 have to be like love blah blah blah. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:14.960 Like it's very very strange as an actor, very strange. Okay, 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.960 so let's get back to you. So you do this, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.680 you're sad, which breaks my heart. I wish we had 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.640 had more sense. I don't think we had a plan. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.120 I think we were just rolling with it. Obviously a 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.000 mistake on our part. 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.760 What did you do? What went on? Did you model more? 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.440 Did you no? 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.360 I mean I I modeled a little bit. I mean 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.120 the big mistake that I did was I was at 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.760 a movie premiere party one time and I went with 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:43.720 a casting director named Todd Taylor and anyway, not important, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:50.400 but somebody from William Morris saw me and saw me 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.200 there with Todd and and wanted to have a meeting 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.560 with me to go and and meet with them for representation. 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.160 And I made the big mistake of making that lead 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:08.160 that jumped to William Morris because that was yah. And 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:11.160 and also I just booked something with J. Michael Bloom 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:15.360 and it's it's great, little small someone told me, you know, 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:16.880 strike while the kettle's hot. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:18.520 They're not wrong. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.360 It just was the wrong move. Really regret doing that. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:26.160 And then and then that piece that came out really 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.200 hurt me. It really hurt my confidence too, and it's 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:32.960 just so yeah, so it was a kind of threw 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.400 me off course a little bit. But of course I 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:38.200 modeled a little bit here and there, because I mean 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.840 I was officially retired. But but you know, they throw 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:44.880 some really good money at you to do something like 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:46.720 all right, sure, you know, I'll do the Carolina Herrera 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:53.240 fragrance too on to launch the campaign. And yeah, so 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.240 I did that for a while. I feel like I 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.520 just basically partied in New York for six years. 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.760 Also, I don't think you were alone. Yeah, I mean 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:03.600 that was what people did. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:08.439 Yeah nights, I mean I remember many, many, many a 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.280 day awake you have at two or three pm? Wow, 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.640 So you know, I had just come off of working 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.000 really successfully in the in the fashion world and and 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.680 just uh, I don't know, just having fun in the city. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.800 having sex in the city too, So I'm. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.120 Sure you did. Now let me ask you this. Did 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.040 you know Candice Bushnell before? 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:31.440 I did? 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:31.560 Not? 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.240 I met her on set? I think that first. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:34.719 Day got it. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:39.160 And then were you guys friends? Did you? We don't 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:40.480 say too much, sorry. 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.399 We know we became friends. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.399 Yeah, yeah, cool, because. 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:45.720 I know the pictures of you out there and I 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.960 didn't know maybe she knew you before because she did 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:52.400 know everybody, you know, she didn't know everyone. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:54.879 Yeah, she's a fun girl. Yeah yeah yeah. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.680 And did you feel at the time had you read 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.560 her column in the book, like did you know the. 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.560 Whole nothing about it before and got it? 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.000 So you didn't necessarily know, oh this was this was 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:05.480 Candace's life that it was based on. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.600 You didn't really realize. 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.960 I think I was learning that on set that day, 0:18:10.160 --> 0:18:12.480 got it. If I was even paying attention to that, 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.200 I think there was just more paying attention to being 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.560 in the city you had to do. Yeah, but obviously 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.760 learned that at some point afterwards interest and that got 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.640 the book. Well, she gave me a copy of the book. Sure, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:29.240 and yeah, so it was She's Yeah, fond memories of her. 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:31.520 She's she's a fun, crazy character. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.639 Yeah, definitely, most definitely. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.000