WEBVTT - The Weather Vane

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin. Imagine there's a place in our world where the

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<v Speaker 1>known things go. Calculations, weather maps, old barometer readings, strange

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<v Speaker 1>weather lately right tragic weather, catastrophic weather, Snowmageddon, heat apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 1>It always makes me think of something attributed to Mark Twain.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Better check the forecast tonight a dangerous what your storm

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<v Speaker 1>is bearing down on the East Coast with blizzard warnings

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<v Speaker 1>issued for the New York City area and Boston? Would geez?

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<v Speaker 1>I hope people would be okay. I might as well

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<v Speaker 1>catch up on my reading. I've been going through old

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<v Speaker 1>issues of Poor Richard's Almanac. Let's see seventeen fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>In the preface, Benjamin Franklin looks back at twenty years

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<v Speaker 1>of publishing his Poor Richard's Almanacs, and it makes this

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<v Speaker 1>pretty corny joke about how no matter what weather he

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<v Speaker 1>predicted day to day, year after year, his prediction was right.

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<v Speaker 1>At least he predicted the right weather. Somewhere in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>In the eighteenth century, no one could really predict the weather,

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<v Speaker 1>not like today. Tens of millions are in the path

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<v Speaker 1>of this nor easter, that could bring record snowfall and

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<v Speaker 1>coastal flooding. Time to Betten down the hatches and then

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<v Speaker 1>escape over the threshold to a radio booth in New

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<v Speaker 1>York during another terrible snowstorm more than half a century ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, A good morning to you. This is

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<v Speaker 1>John Cameron's ways in the NBC news room in New

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<v Speaker 1>York over to the deal of the storm area. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>the forecast is for better weather, which is encouraging news

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<v Speaker 1>to many. Thousands of people will have the tales of

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<v Speaker 1>this top subject during the broadcast. The Great Blizzard of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty seven hit New York the day after Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were in its path, you likely lost power

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<v Speaker 1>and couldn't listen to the radio or watch television. Life

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<v Speaker 1>magazine printed photographs of people skiing through the streets. Movie

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<v Speaker 1>theaters ran news ural reports very much in the style

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<v Speaker 1>of the newsural reports from the Second World War, which

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<v Speaker 1>it only just ended. Friday, December twenty six, nineteen forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a blank white Friday in New York City. As

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<v Speaker 1>a snow plot burst, as it's officially called, dumps two

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<v Speaker 1>inches of snow an hour on the top. I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been fascinated by how much weather reporting has in common

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<v Speaker 1>with war reporting, as if the weather were an enemy

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<v Speaker 1>to be battled, but so formidable that the weather nearly

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<v Speaker 1>always wins. This time, the enemy had conducted a sneak attack.

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorkers were blindsided. As many as thirty thousand cars

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<v Speaker 1>had to be abandoned by their drivers. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollar object to make New York streets passable again.

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<v Speaker 1>The storm extended from the nation's capital to northern Maine,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was New York and its suburbs that or

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<v Speaker 1>the brunt of the fall. He officially recorded twenty six inches,

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<v Speaker 1>was five more inches than the historic blizzard. For most

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<v Speaker 1>of human history, people would wake up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>look up in the sky, have a good idea, a

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable idea about what the day might bring, but no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what tomorrow would bring. Today, I look on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see the weather anywhere in the world, hour

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<v Speaker 1>by hour, for the next week. I have an oracle

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<v Speaker 1>in my back pocket, a tiny god. It's a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, a form of technology, a type of knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that I tend to put in a category in my

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<v Speaker 1>head that says, brought to you by NASA or a

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<v Speaker 1>product of the space race, and partly that's true. The

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<v Speaker 1>weather app on my iPhone is a product of war,

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<v Speaker 1>of all the wars of the twentieth century. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to know what does it mean that I carry around

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<v Speaker 1>in my back pocket this little instrument of war. What

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<v Speaker 1>does it mean to have at my fingertips the knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>of what weather is going to happen next everywhere? How

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<v Speaker 1>has it changed the world to have this knowledge, to

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<v Speaker 1>take it for granted even and there was one statistic

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<v Speaker 1>that will probably stand ninety nine million tons of snow

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<v Speaker 1>fella New York in sixteen dollars. Welcome to the Last Archive.

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<v Speaker 1>The show about how we know what we know and

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<v Speaker 1>why it seems lately as if we don't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>at all. I'm Jill Lapour. This season is all about

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<v Speaker 1>common knowledge, what everyone knows or thinks they know, knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>people share in common. This episode the weather. Everyone's always

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it, but nobody ever does anything about it,

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<v Speaker 1>or do they. It's a big, messy, uncertain world, looking

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<v Speaker 1>up to the skies, to the heavens and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>read in the clouds signs of what might happen next.

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<v Speaker 1>Snow rain, a beautiful day it's an elemental curiosity. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also an urgent one. You can see why forecasting the

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<v Speaker 1>weather is a lynchpin of wartime planning. The weather can

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<v Speaker 1>determine if you live or die, whether your crops fail,

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<v Speaker 1>your boat sinks, you run out of water, you lose

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<v Speaker 1>your home in a flood. Then there are the more

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary matters Janet an umbrella today. I I love the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that I can know what's coming next. It's a comfort,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's also strange, as if we could find such

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<v Speaker 1>certainty in such an uncertain world. In the US, weather

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<v Speaker 1>records go pretty far back. For centuries, farmers, factory workers,

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of ordinary people recorded the weather, little jottings

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<v Speaker 1>and diaries. Mostly people also consulted farmers almanacs to look

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<v Speaker 1>for weather predictions. There, something bigger started to happen, though,

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen forties, a national data collection project headed

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<v Speaker 1>up by a new national institution, the Smithsonian. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a graduate student, Adelaide Mandeville, working on a history dissertation

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<v Speaker 1>about all of this, and I called her up and

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<v Speaker 1>she explained to me what the Smithsonian had been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do and how it depended on the telegraph system.

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<v Speaker 1>Working with the telegraph companies, they enlist one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty volunteers in the first year to start sending in

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<v Speaker 1>their local weather observations, and then the Smithsonian takes all

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<v Speaker 1>of that and maps it, and then eighteen seventy I

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<v Speaker 1>think they make the first national weather agency. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>when it becomes a federal project. For a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>that project relied on hundreds, even thousands of volunteers who

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<v Speaker 1>sent in their local weather observations. And as one meteorologist

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<v Speaker 1>said in eighteen seventy nine, anyone could do it. There

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<v Speaker 1>is one science which is within the grasp of every mine,

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<v Speaker 1>and which to be successfully cultivated requires no pre operation,

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<v Speaker 1>the science of rain and fine weather, but which now

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<v Speaker 1>received the higher title of meteorology. By the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century, experts were taking over. Eventually, the work

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<v Speaker 1>of predicting the weather moved to the US Signal Service,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in eighteen ninety one Congress created the Weather Bureau.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a division of the Department of Agriculture. The

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<v Speaker 1>chief of this new Weather Bureau, he didn't just oversee

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<v Speaker 1>the collection of weather records. He was supposed to forecast

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<v Speaker 1>storms and droughts and floods, anything that would affect agriculture

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<v Speaker 1>or industry or commerce. The whole scheme had a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of citizen science quality to it. The Weather Bureau wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make meteorology common knowledge, to teach people about the

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<v Speaker 1>latest instruments. It installed little weather kiosks in twenty nine

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<v Speaker 1>cities out their own city sidewalks. There were these boxes

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<v Speaker 1>with maps and charts, thermometers and barometers. What the Weather

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<v Speaker 1>beer really wanted was newspapers to print weather maps, but

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<v Speaker 1>before that happened, the weather report went out in a

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<v Speaker 1>different way. As Adelaide Manville explained to me, the post

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<v Speaker 1>office in the early twentieth century, they were responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>delivering weather forecasts with the mail, but there was an

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<v Speaker 1>issue because they would go out at seven am, that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the mail was delivered, and the forecast. Each day,

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<v Speaker 1>new information came in at ten am, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>always a little delayed, and the weather forecasters sort of

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<v Speaker 1>got a reputation for not being super accurate. But then

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<v Speaker 1>they had these, you know, really really helpful and important

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<v Speaker 1>forecasts where they warned towns that there was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a huge flood or hurricane and people were able

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<v Speaker 1>to evacuate then once radio started in the nineteen twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>you could hear the weather forecast over the wireless. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>give you that everywhether we put forecasting had by now

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<v Speaker 1>gotten more accurate than it had ever been before. That's

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<v Speaker 1>because of advances made just before the First World War,

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<v Speaker 1>when a Norwegian meteorologist recorded the weather across Europe. Then

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<v Speaker 1>during the war, his son, working for the military, discovered

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of the movement of masses of cold and

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<v Speaker 1>warm air. He called these fronts like battlefronts, except the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>An English mathematician also involved in the war effort, used

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<v Speaker 1>their data and those ideas to devise a mathematical model

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<v Speaker 1>to predict the weather. Unfortunately it didn't work. Still, the

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<v Speaker 1>idea too cold, that there should be a model, and

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<v Speaker 1>that if only you could do the calculations fast enough,

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<v Speaker 1>you could predict the weather. So right, Doing that got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot easier after computers were invented, and here's the

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<v Speaker 1>latest weather report. Nothing advances science like war. During the

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<v Speaker 1>Second World War, those mathematical models got better and better,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the end of the war you could use

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<v Speaker 1>computers to run those calculations, so finally you could make

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<v Speaker 1>your predictions faster than the speed of weather. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could get ahead of the storm, you could get ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the enemy. Weather forecasting becomes critical to military strategy

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<v Speaker 1>during the war, and they're developing these new technologies to

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<v Speaker 1>syst them in doing that, so like radar and these

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<v Speaker 1>aircraft controls and more extensive data collection systems and all

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<v Speaker 1>that does make them better at forecasting. By nineteen forty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>Americans had gotten used to the idea that, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>there were a really big storm coming, they'd know it

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<v Speaker 1>in advance. Nearly twenty six inchines have fallen a record

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<v Speaker 1>unequal in the analyst of the Weather Bureau. But really

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the scale of that storm that was the

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<v Speaker 1>strangest thing about it. The strangest thing about it was

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<v Speaker 1>that it was so unexpected. When you wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and you open up an eye, if you

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the mark and you look through the sky

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<v Speaker 1>and won the weather who he is a weather or

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<v Speaker 1>dry who knows the weather man? And here's the latest

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<v Speaker 1>weather report? Extreme cold temperature below zero. In the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>when Americans started buying televisions and real numbers, they could

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<v Speaker 1>flip a switch and hear a forecast, sometimes a goofy one.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of early TV forecasts came in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of cartoons. Some of them involved puppets. One was sponsored

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<v Speaker 1>by Botany Neckties and featured a little wooly lamb. No

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<v Speaker 1>recordings of the song exists, so we found the lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>and made our own. It's cold, it's rain, it's fair,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all mixed up together. But I, as Botany's little lamp,

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<v Speaker 1>predict tomorrow's weather. I love how silly these early weather

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<v Speaker 1>reports were. But this goofiness didn't last long. Pretty quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>in those post war years, television weather forecasting left lambs

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<v Speaker 1>behind and settled into the style we still have today.

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<v Speaker 1>Weather today, Montana in a real state of deep breeze,

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<v Speaker 1>about forty eight degrees near Helena, stormy along the Gulf

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<v Speaker 1>of Mexico and Texas, A sober looking fellow in a

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<v Speaker 1>suit and tie, part sportscaster, part scientist. Generally, however, here

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<v Speaker 1>in New York and alt in Chicago, something resembling springtime.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty eighth degrees here in New York this afternoon. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really a pretty big country after all, lots of weather.

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<v Speaker 1>The buttoned up weatherman and his straight up forecast. This

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<v Speaker 1>was a wartime offshoot products of the Army in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>The earliest national television weather forecast was made by Fellow

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<v Speaker 1>who had had training in meteorology during the war. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of soldiers and sailors had gotten that kind of training.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look at it even today, a modern

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<v Speaker 1>weather report, the map, the pointer, the symbols, the presentation,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a military briefing. Right, let me get the

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<v Speaker 1>weather Bureau here, we said to the brother James, are there.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifty two, NBC launched The Today Show. That's

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<v Speaker 1>weather forecast. Do you understand? Right in the Weather Bureau

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<v Speaker 1>where they make the stuff? And already for you. Go ahead, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put it on a map. The Today Show's anchor,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Garroway in suit and bow tie. He's on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone with a guy from the Weather Bureau. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>a studio kitted out with all kinds of Jim crackery,

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<v Speaker 1>a giant telephone, a microphone the size of a broomstick

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<v Speaker 1>hanging down his front, a bank of blinking television monitors,

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<v Speaker 1>very high tech, nineteen fifty style. But then the telephone

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<v Speaker 1>in one hand, he's got a piece of chalk in

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<v Speaker 1>his other hand, and he starts writing the weather on

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<v Speaker 1>a big chalkboard with a map of the country drawn

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Ar it turns to rain in Pennsylvania about

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two up here, crazing dribble. He's not God, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy here, he is every morning telling you what your

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<v Speaker 1>day will be like, and for the most part, earning

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<v Speaker 1>your trust. I think, having lived through some of this era,

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<v Speaker 1>there was also something so seemingly simple about it. You

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<v Speaker 1>get the weather report in the morning, you put on

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<v Speaker 1>your wind breaker, you had out expecting rain, You get

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<v Speaker 1>on with your day. There was a Cold War going on,

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<v Speaker 1>the world might end in a blink an atomic bomb,

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<v Speaker 1>the end of life on Earth. But hey, you knew

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<v Speaker 1>enough at least that you needed a wind breaker. Today.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know your forecast is very good, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's raining right here in New York. All those long

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<v Speaker 1>years of the Cold War, though, the nineteen fifties, the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixties, there was something else going on. For one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>the weather forecasting was pretty good, reliable, useful, but it

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<v Speaker 1>had stopped getting much better each war. The First World War,

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<v Speaker 1>the Second World War, the Cold War had advanced the

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<v Speaker 1>science of meteorology, but whether as folklore proverbs that goofiness

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<v Speaker 1>that started with poor Richard's Almanac went down to the

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<v Speaker 1>singing lamb that was still around two in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it. In one little town in America.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy, the morning a long time once again

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<v Speaker 1>for the KRSBO got Report, the official for Rosebery. Yes

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<v Speaker 1>you heard that right, the Mount Nebo Goat Report. In

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<v Speaker 1>a city of Rosberg, Oregon. They went old school. The

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<v Speaker 1>local news started issuing forecasts by reporting on the position

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<v Speaker 1>of a herd of goats up on a mountain outside

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<v Speaker 1>town Mount Nebo. And I know this sounds crazy, but

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<v Speaker 1>you really can use sheep and goats to predict the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pretty accurate. There's no end of proverbs about this phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 1>When sheep gather in a huddle, tomorrow will have a puddle.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true. And so the KRSB Mount Nebo Goat reports

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<v Speaker 1>game this morning at about six thirty am. Man at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, we have someone scattered goats under an intenthi

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<v Speaker 1>go to pressure system. Goats arranging this morning about the

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<v Speaker 1>mid mountain three quarters of the way upound people. Thus

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<v Speaker 1>we will have a beautiful Juan morning. Once you get

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is going on here is a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of back to nature vibe. But there's something else here too,

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<v Speaker 1>an anti war vibe, the idea that maybe the weather

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<v Speaker 1>isn't brought to you by the military, Maybe the weather

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the enemy. Maybe the weather could also just be

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<v Speaker 1>goats up on a hill. Then too, there's a sense

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<v Speaker 1>here of the chaos of climate. By the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>meteorologists we're talking about the butterfly effect, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>a butterfly flapping its wings in one part of the

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<v Speaker 1>world could have an effect on a weather system on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the world. That wasn't really a

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<v Speaker 1>new idea in the nineteen seventies. It had first appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in a meteorology journal in nineteen eighteen during the First

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<v Speaker 1>World War, about a different insect, a grasshopper in Idaho,

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<v Speaker 1>might conceivably initiate a storm movement which would sweep across

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<v Speaker 1>the continent and destroy New York City. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>very scary thought. It got much scarier somehow in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies, in the middle of the Vietnam War. The

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<v Speaker 1>weather is chaos. It's complicated, so formidably intricate. A set

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<v Speaker 1>of innumerable forces, intersecting and infinite ways. The system can

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<v Speaker 1>never be reduced to any mathematical model, not perfectly anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if we didn't have to understand all that complexity.

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<v Speaker 1>What if instead of trying to model or predict the weather,

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<v Speaker 1>we could just control it. That story after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an airport weather station here with our charts

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<v Speaker 1>and their instruments and trying to predict tomorrow's weather. Quite

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<v Speaker 1>often they succeed. In nineteen fifty eight, CBS News reported

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<v Speaker 1>on the latest research in the field of meteorology. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact is that we don't know very much about the

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<v Speaker 1>forces that create the weather. Therefore we can always predict

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<v Speaker 1>without proceed Consider some of the things we don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Consider this cloud. The Cold War, the age of the

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<v Speaker 1>atomic bomb, had given rise to a revolution and atmospheric sciences,

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<v Speaker 1>and still no one really understood the workings of weather.

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly produces high winds, a hurricane, a tornado, a blizzard?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a butterfly on the other side of the world?

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<v Speaker 1>What causes rain? How to clouds form? At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>the field was on the verge of a major breakthrough

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<v Speaker 1>in the work of a scientist named Joanne Malchus. CBS

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<v Speaker 1>featured her research in its look at the Latest goings

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<v Speaker 1>on in Meteorology. Doctor Maltho was studying a tiny but

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<v Speaker 1>very important part of weather, a cloud. Joanne Melchis, better

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<v Speaker 1>known by a later married name, Joanne Simpson, was the

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<v Speaker 1>first woman in the United States to earn a PhD

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<v Speaker 1>in meteorology. Her whole career came out of the Second

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<v Speaker 1>World War. She was always interested in flying and sailing

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<v Speaker 1>and math, but didn't really have an interest in science

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<v Speaker 1>until she went to University of Chicago. And then she

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<v Speaker 1>describes her interest in meteorology as an accident of World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two. And she starts college in nineteen forty and

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<v Speaker 1>then Pearl Harbor happens, and she says, her whole worlds

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<v Speaker 1>in flames, and she really wants to contribute to the

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<v Speaker 1>war effort. That's Adelaide Mandeville again. Simpson's father had been

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<v Speaker 1>a reporter covering aviation, her mother a birth control activist.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents won't let her join the military and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to stay in college, and so she finds

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<v Speaker 1>this aviation training program World War two training program at

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<v Speaker 1>Verst of Chicago that was started by this meteorologist named

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<v Speaker 1>Carl Gustaf Rosby, who many people consider like the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>meteorologists of the twentieth century. If you've ever flown on

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<v Speaker 1>an airplane, you can think Carl Gustaf Rosby. He was

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<v Speaker 1>key in identifying the jet stream. He explained how atmospheric

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<v Speaker 1>circulation of the weather works like waves. He was Simpson's advisor.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great meteorologist. Apparently he was not a

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<v Speaker 1>great person. He was really dismissive of her and her work.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, clouds are completely insignificant. They just don't matter

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<v Speaker 1>you as a girl, and clouds, as passive and insignificant

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<v Speaker 1>are a perfect match. She's like, okay, sir, and moves

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<v Speaker 1>on to a new advisor and continues working on it.

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<v Speaker 1>In spite of that, Simpson persevered. She finished her dissertation

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty nine. She saw something few other meteorologies

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<v Speaker 1>had seen. That clouds weren't insignificant, and that they were

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<v Speaker 1>important to whether in all kinds of ways, that they

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<v Speaker 1>were worth investigating. It's almost as though, as a person

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<v Speaker 1>whose own power had been invisible to a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>including her adviser, she could see the power and something

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like fluff. Here's Simpson in that nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight CBS news story. We could understand what's happening in

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<v Speaker 1>this coffee cup. We could begin to learn about clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>There's heat and moisture in the coffee cup. Because Hattie arises,

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<v Speaker 1>we find motions. When I first watched this interview with Simpson,

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<v Speaker 1>it drove me crazy that this important scientist has to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce an idea using a coffee mug. I guess because

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<v Speaker 1>she's a woman. But then it turns out it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good explanation. The steam coming up from the cup

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<v Speaker 1>is water vapor, which is being condensed out into a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of tiny, little liquid water droplets. Something very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to this is happening over the tropical ocean. Simpson spent

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<v Speaker 1>much of her career of flying through clouds and airplanes

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<v Speaker 1>with cameras strapped to the nose, recording movements and taking measurements.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the marine meteorologist. I began to wonder about clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>How to clouds grow? Where do they get the energy

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<v Speaker 1>to fade on? To find out, we have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the places where the clouds are. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>chase after them in the sky. So she's up there

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<v Speaker 1>in airplanes, chasing clouds, making films, analyzing those films frame

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<v Speaker 1>by frame, and building a mathematical model of the behavior

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<v Speaker 1>of clouds. To do all those things she needs was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time really expensive technology, and the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to get access to that technology was through the military,

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<v Speaker 1>which had long had a huge interest in understanding and

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<v Speaker 1>predicting the weather. By the nineteen fifties, at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cold War, what the US military would really

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<v Speaker 1>really like is to be able to control the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Adelaide Manville's research is all about. Earlier

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<v Speaker 1>scientists had wanted to understand things. Cold War era scientists

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to control things mind control, riot control, pain control,

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<v Speaker 1>weather control. We can fully harness nature, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're one step closer to being able to move clouds

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<v Speaker 1>and make it rain, and turn a hurricane in a

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<v Speaker 1>different direction, mitigate lightning so forest fires don't happen. They

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<v Speaker 1>start coming up with all these ideas turning deserts into gardens,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know why not, because meanwhile, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>other wartime technologies we're making it possible to control the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Indoors mposures everywhere are today benefiting by weather made to

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<v Speaker 1>order by carrier. Instead of traveling away from business and

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<v Speaker 1>home to seek relief, you can obtain the same comfort

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<v Speaker 1>right in your own home moral office through air conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>So we can control the weather inside. Wouldn't it be

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful if you could just touch a button and fill

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<v Speaker 1>your home with warm spring sunlight. Now you can have

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<v Speaker 1>electric heating, the next best thing to sunshine. Next we'll

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<v Speaker 1>control the weather outside air conditioning, electric heating indoor weather

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<v Speaker 1>control for the outdoors. The equivalent was a discovery made

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty six by three scientists a general electric

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<v Speaker 1>They called it cloud seating, dropping dry ice from airplanes

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<v Speaker 1>onto clouds to make them rain weather to order. Cloud

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<v Speaker 1>seating men completely takes off and just becomes this national obsession.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of veterans from the war who have learned

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<v Speaker 1>to fly and have a general sense of weather patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>They start doing it and selling their services to farmers

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<v Speaker 1>who are facing drought, to mayors who you need to

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<v Speaker 1>refill their public water supply, to Native American tribes who

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<v Speaker 1>have done their annual rainmaking ceremonies and didn't work that year,

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<v Speaker 1>and they hire these rainmakers. Then it tumbles into the

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<v Speaker 1>Cold War period and just explodes. Suddenly. The idea of

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<v Speaker 1>controlling the weather seems so promising. You can force clouds

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<v Speaker 1>to rain. You can't really control how much or what

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<v Speaker 1>the consequences will be, but in a crude way, it

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<v Speaker 1>does work. In nineteen fifty one, Congress debated the Weather

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<v Speaker 1>Modification Act, providing for equitable distribution of precipitation among the states.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about that for a minute. The confidence. We are

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<v Speaker 1>talking about drafting legislation to ensure equal rainfall between the states,

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<v Speaker 1>and you thought my tree branch idea was screwy. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty three, Congress established a National Weather Modification Commission.

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<v Speaker 1>As if you could jump from cloud seating to setting

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<v Speaker 1>the temperature every day, like with a thermostat in your

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<v Speaker 1>living room. Meanwhile, the military is awfully interested in the

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<v Speaker 1>secret stuff weather as a weapon. Think of the advantages

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<v Speaker 1>that would have brought in a war if you could

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<v Speaker 1>control the weather in your enemy's territory. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, in the middle of the nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 1>that Joanne Simpson has started to revolutionize the study of clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an experimental scientist doing basic research, but she sure

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<v Speaker 1>yourself can't do it alone. So she got funding any

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<v Speaker 1>way she could, from any branch of the military, And

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<v Speaker 1>if she had to say, oh, yeah, this has a

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<v Speaker 1>military application, she'd say it. Simpson is looking for projects

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<v Speaker 1>that will let her do cloud seatings that she can

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<v Speaker 1>test her models. But the way Simpson talks about her work,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in public, it's always about basic research. These

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<v Speaker 1>clouds were passing, have a very short flight, they're born,

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<v Speaker 1>they grow, may die. It's quite moving the way she

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<v Speaker 1>describes clouds. I find it moving. You're almost there with her,

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<v Speaker 1>chasing them in the sky like UFOs or aliens. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we get a monster runaway cloud. It tools started as

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<v Speaker 1>a small, tiny fleecy thing, or a group of tiny

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<v Speaker 1>fleecy things, but then something permitted it to build and

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<v Speaker 1>grow and defy its cool, dry surroundings. Once we find

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<v Speaker 1>out what that something is the tanks and breaks off

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<v Speaker 1>clouds and permits the runaway growth of large numbers of them,

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<v Speaker 1>well then perhaps we will have put in one more

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<v Speaker 1>link in the long chain of what forms and maintains

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<v Speaker 1>a hurricane. Ultimately, she develops the first ever cloud model

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<v Speaker 1>and the first ever hurricane model, so her work becomes

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<v Speaker 1>foundational to the next up until now sixty seventy years

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<v Speaker 1>of thomospheric sciences. But in the mid nineteen fifties she

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<v Speaker 1>starts working in weather control. But then the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>weather control had gone so entirely mainstream. Then even President

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<v Speaker 1>Lyndon B. Johnson was talking about it. He who controls

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<v Speaker 1>the weather will control the world LBJ, sounding like a

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<v Speaker 1>James Bond supervillain. It was such a good line that

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<v Speaker 1>a screenwriter stole it a couple of years later for

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<v Speaker 1>a film. There was a spoof of a Bond movie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Our Man Flint and I've got to play

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<v Speaker 1>something for you. In this scene, a US general complains

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<v Speaker 1>about the supervillain's evil plan in the desert put icebergs

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<v Speaker 1>in the Mediterranean. You control the weather, and you control

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<v Speaker 1>the world. If you could control the weather, you could

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<v Speaker 1>also do something seemingly incredibly useful. You could weaken hurricanes

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<v Speaker 1>before they hit land. In the mid nineteen fifties, or

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<v Speaker 1>a series of hurricanes that caused you mass amounts of damage,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of people die, and the government starts the National

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<v Speaker 1>Hurricane Research Project, and one of the methods they used

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<v Speaker 1>to research hurricanes is cloud seating. Joan Simpson served as

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<v Speaker 1>top advisor to what comes to be called Project storm Fury,

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<v Speaker 1>using cloud seating to modify a hurricane. But a hitch

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<v Speaker 1>with trying to modify a hurricane, as you first have

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<v Speaker 1>to wait for one to happen. So in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson and her team decided to run tests on promising

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<v Speaker 1>storm clouds. You're not summer of nineteen sixty three and

0:29:50.516 --> 0:29:54.476
<v Speaker 1>they're in Puerto Rico at a US naval base, and

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<v Speaker 1>they go up and she chooses ten clouds near San Juan,

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<v Speaker 1>and they seed them, and then they're waiting to see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. And the first cloud, in Simpson's telling, just balloon.

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<v Speaker 1>It grows and grows. They think they're watching cloud seating work,

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<v Speaker 1>and they do end up seating a hurricane. That same year,

0:30:16.836 --> 0:30:19.076
<v Speaker 1>they publish a big paper about it. It gets a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of press attention. Then two years later, in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five, when Simpson is serving as director of Storm Fury,

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to try to modify another hurricane named Betsy,

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<v Speaker 1>off the coast of Puerto Rico. They announced that plan

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<v Speaker 1>to the press dawn August twenty seven at Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>island bases, Navy, whether Bureau and Air Force planes are

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<v Speaker 1>warming up to their daily task, except at the last minute,

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<v Speaker 1>the hurricane changed course suddenly on Sunday night, Betsy runs

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<v Speaker 1>head on into a high pressure ridge, then it turns

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<v Speaker 1>towards the mainline. Hurricane flags are flying now from Key

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<v Speaker 1>West to Keep Canada. Because of the course change, the

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<v Speaker 1>Storm Fury scientists called off their plan to try to

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<v Speaker 1>modify the hurricane. And then when Betsy hit Florida and

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<v Speaker 1>Louisiana had killed eighty people. Mentality list is as follows.

0:31:14.556 --> 0:31:18.716
<v Speaker 1>Twenty five year old missus and Mayou. Her body was

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<v Speaker 1>found in the Franklin Avenue ditch. She was swept away

0:31:22.876 --> 0:31:28.596
<v Speaker 1>by flood water. Floridians were furious. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>blamed Project Storm Fury, thought the scientists had made the

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane so severe. In truth, Storm Fury wasn't responsible. The

0:31:36.876 --> 0:31:40.596
<v Speaker 1>scientists had already abandoned the project, but people still blamed them.

0:31:40.876 --> 0:31:44.796
<v Speaker 1>Simpson resigned. What really spelled the end of this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of weather modification though, we're experiments going on at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time but very far away. So they were using

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<v Speaker 1>cloud seeding to disrupt flight patterns or to try to

0:31:57.316 --> 0:32:00.916
<v Speaker 1>do this disrupt flight patterns to flood the Ho Chiman

0:32:01.036 --> 0:32:04.916
<v Speaker 1>trails that they couldn't get supplies where they needed to go.

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<v Speaker 1>During the Vietnam War, the US government spent more than

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollars on this project, with a few conclusive results.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of the story didn't come out until the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 1>papers were leaked in nineteen seventy one. They don't admit

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<v Speaker 1>to using it until nineteen seventy four. There's huge public backlash.

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<v Speaker 1>The backlash against weather control was because it was associated

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<v Speaker 1>with the many atrocities committed by scientists in Vietnam agent

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<v Speaker 1>orange napalm. Years later, Simpson talked about this in an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was terrible. I mean, all my life,

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to work for the betterment of the planet

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<v Speaker 1>and the people, even in a small way, and then

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<v Speaker 1>to use what I've done is some kind of military thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously am very concerned and not happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Simpson had gotten involved in this research because of Pearl Harbor.

0:33:02.036 --> 0:33:04.276
<v Speaker 1>She'd gotten pretty much all her funding from the US

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<v Speaker 1>military during the Cold War and then after the Vietnam Wars.

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<v Speaker 1>Revealed have been a series of frauds and lies and atrocities.

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<v Speaker 1>She is shocked shocked to discover that her research has

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<v Speaker 1>been used to try to make it rain on the

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<v Speaker 1>ho Chi Min trail. Me I'm just not buying it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't look inside Joe and Simpson's heart though, any

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<v Speaker 1>better than I can see into a cloud. But I

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<v Speaker 1>do know this. The revolution and atmospheric science that started

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<v Speaker 1>during the Second World War came crashing down in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies in the aftermath of Vietnam. It wasn't only

0:33:39.356 --> 0:33:41.956
<v Speaker 1>Vietnam that led to this turning point, It was also

0:33:42.076 --> 0:33:47.476
<v Speaker 1>rising concern about another kind of weather modification, climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out people were not controlling the weather making

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<v Speaker 1>it better, making it easier for farmers to grow, averting

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<v Speaker 1>droughts and hurricanes and bad storms and heat waves. Instead,

0:33:59.276 --> 0:34:12.556
<v Speaker 1>people were making the weather worse. In nineteen eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>the Weather Channel began broadcasting weather forecasts NonStop. Soon, private

0:34:19.636 --> 0:34:24.316
<v Speaker 1>weather forecasting became big business from Atlanta, Georgia, home of

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<v Speaker 1>the new Weather Channel network. This is the official inaugural

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<v Speaker 1>program of cable television's newest twenty four hour live network,

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<v Speaker 1>well Weather Channel. It wasn't only the Weather Channel. There

0:34:38.516 --> 0:34:42.516
<v Speaker 1>were dedicated weather reporting services you could subscribe to like

0:34:42.876 --> 0:34:46.716
<v Speaker 1>acue Weather, and in the nineteen nineties, once people were

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<v Speaker 1>able to use the Internet, they found new ways to

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<v Speaker 1>obsess about the weather, to make money off of it,

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<v Speaker 1>to seek out the latest, up to date forecast, minute

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<v Speaker 1>by minute accuracy promised. It was as if merely by

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<v Speaker 1>updating your weather report every second, you could imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>you were somehow in control, prevailing over the enemy. But

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<v Speaker 1>to sell a forecast as an illusion of control, you

0:35:12.396 --> 0:35:14.796
<v Speaker 1>have to sell people the idea that the weather is

0:35:14.916 --> 0:35:18.516
<v Speaker 1>out of control. TV weather reports, trying to compete with

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<v Speaker 1>online services, got zanier. The weatherman was no longer calm

0:35:24.036 --> 0:35:29.916
<v Speaker 1>and detached. The weatherman started panicking. I'm AccuWeather dot comedy

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<v Speaker 1>rologists Jim Kosik are paralyzing, crippling breaking storm CODs to day.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a forecast for a snowstorm in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>like not the end of the world. A snowstorm. You

0:35:49.556 --> 0:35:52.316
<v Speaker 1>think you've heard the hypeest hype, and then along comes

0:35:52.436 --> 0:35:56.476
<v Speaker 1>hypeer hype. In nineteen ninety seven, meteorologists called a storm

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<v Speaker 1>the climate event of the century. Post nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 1>weather reports for the era of the Global War on Terror,

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<v Speaker 1>they had to start inventing new nouns. Some called it snowmake,

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<v Speaker 1>other snow apocalypse. It was a forecasting arms race for

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<v Speaker 1>the War on Terror, because, of course, it was also

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<v Speaker 1>a ratings race. In two thousand and six, the Weather Channel,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep up, launched a series called It Could

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<v Speaker 1>Happen Tomorrow, featuring imaginary disasters. One day the fog clears

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<v Speaker 1>and the city by the Bay has changed forever. One

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<v Speaker 1>day traffic stops, and the city that never sleep stands still.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't happened yet, but it could happen tomorrow Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>night on the Weather Channel to witness unbelievable acts of

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<v Speaker 1>nature that could devastate our Forecasting never lost its military posture,

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<v Speaker 1>its wartime element. With a weather app on your phone,

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<v Speaker 1>you carry around with you an instrument of war that

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<v Speaker 1>earlier generations could only dream of. War approaches. Soldier, you

0:37:05.836 --> 0:37:09.636
<v Speaker 1>are prepared, and still it seems the enemy is gaining.

0:37:10.116 --> 0:37:13.196
<v Speaker 1>In Pakistan, the government says floods across the country have

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<v Speaker 1>now killed more than thirteen hundred people. Written's hottest day

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<v Speaker 1>ever recorded, with high temperatures potentially reaching at least one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and three degrees fahrenheit that's not just above normal,

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<v Speaker 1>that is thirty degrees above normally, a record breaking drought,

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<v Speaker 1>the longest and most severe drought in rescent history. China's

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<v Speaker 1>largest river, Yanze, has dried. You're getting a frightening look

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<v Speaker 1>at this image of Hurricane Ida as she bears down

0:37:38.196 --> 0:37:41.236
<v Speaker 1>on the Gulf coast, those outer bands whipping the area

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<v Speaker 1>for hours overnight. It's not just the weather, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the climate. Climate is a pattern of weather, the

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<v Speaker 1>typical weather in a particular place. Like if we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a person, your mood on any given day

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<v Speaker 1>would be like the weather on Tuesday. You're sad, but

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<v Speaker 1>your temperament, your disposition, you're generally cheerful. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>like the climate. The weather is having many more bad

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<v Speaker 1>days because the climate is getting worse, more extreme. As

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<v Speaker 1>global temperatures warm, the weather's getting less predictable. As Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>study argues that the hotter the climate becomes, the less

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<v Speaker 1>predictable the weather will be. That sense that you could

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<v Speaker 1>know what's coming next that might soon become a thing

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<v Speaker 1>of the past. The weather situation remains extremely rugged. The

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<v Speaker 1>entire state declared under a state of emergency by Governor Duco.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was a kid eleven years old. New England

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<v Speaker 1>was hit with what everyone got to be calling the

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<v Speaker 1>Blizzard of nineteen seventy eight. It was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>the local television stations ran continuous weather coverage NonStop for days,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of coverage that inspired the start of the

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<v Speaker 1>Weather Channel. You'd look out the window, the blizzard, you

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<v Speaker 1>turn on the TV, the blizzard. Snow battered. Boston is

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the worst winter storm it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. And it's not over yet. The full fury

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<v Speaker 1>of the winter blast is still with us. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be all day to the latest word from the

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<v Speaker 1>United States Weatherville. I've never forgotten this storm. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to school that first day, a Monday, my parents went

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Weather forecasting in the nineteen seventies was already

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<v Speaker 1>so hyped up and hyperbolic that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>just ignored the forecast of a winter storm. Then everyone

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<v Speaker 1>got sent home. I remember riding on the school bus,

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<v Speaker 1>not certain we'd make it through the snow. We've asked

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to open their home so that if there are

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<v Speaker 1>any stranded aldous nearby, they have refused. The snow only

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<v Speaker 1>fell for two days, but people were trapped for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot longer winds, blue snow drifts fifteen feet high. Hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of people lost power. In Massachusetts alone, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand homes were destroyed. Coming in at the moment for

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<v Speaker 1>the word from Boston, Edison particularly, it's not good. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we were hoping from report we had earlier that we would.

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<v Speaker 1>People everywhere tried to help out, rescue workers, homemakers, anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Movie theaters stayed open as shelters. Do they have to

0:40:17.516 --> 0:40:21.476
<v Speaker 1>pay to get in? No? Free and free admission? Now

0:40:21.476 --> 0:40:24.556
<v Speaker 1>these people were just people stranded in the area. Right right,

0:40:24.556 --> 0:40:31.436
<v Speaker 1>We're taking them all up there shelter farm. It can

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<v Speaker 1>be numbing talking about the weather and climate change, But

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<v Speaker 1>then I think about why I'm so haunted by the

0:40:37.076 --> 0:40:40.396
<v Speaker 1>blizzard of nineteen seventy eight. In a town nearby, a

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<v Speaker 1>boy about my age had gone missing. Every day the

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<v Speaker 1>radio gave updates on the search for him. That day

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<v Speaker 1>we'd got sent home from school, he'd gone out to

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<v Speaker 1>play in the snow, and he never came in. The

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<v Speaker 1>Whole neighborhood, half the town was out in the blizzard

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<v Speaker 1>for hours looking for this boy. They didn't find his

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<v Speaker 1>long dead body until well after it was all over

0:41:02.276 --> 0:41:06.876
<v Speaker 1>his mitten sticking up from the melting snow. He'd tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get back inside, fell over, just got buried under

0:41:10.436 --> 0:41:16.556
<v Speaker 1>it. It It was falling so fast. It's not some idle

0:41:16.596 --> 0:41:19.996
<v Speaker 1>interest wanting to predict the weather. It's life or death,

0:41:20.756 --> 0:41:25.036
<v Speaker 1>and it's not crazy wanting to control it. We are

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<v Speaker 1>bags of water and bone, vulnerable to every wind, drought,

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<v Speaker 1>heat wave and rain storm. But under the fury of

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<v Speaker 1>each snow apocalypse lies a certain salvation and bearing witness

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<v Speaker 1>to our common frailty, and in the helping, the rescuing,

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<v Speaker 1>the fortifying one another against the storm something the best

0:41:44.716 --> 0:41:48.476
<v Speaker 1>weather beaten newscasters now. At the height of the storm,

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts Governor Michael Ducoccus appeared on television, not in a

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<v Speaker 1>suit and tie, but in a sweater, looking strained and exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>You see the weatherman too, shaking, shuddering with the knowledge

0:42:00.716 --> 0:42:06.636
<v Speaker 1>of it. Even as storms come to an end, all

0:42:06.676 --> 0:42:09.676
<v Speaker 1>our efforts to control our environment must inevitably four short.

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<v Speaker 1>We've learned that society is a pretty recent experiment. At

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<v Speaker 1>Commonwealth Avenue with five am on the morning of a

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<v Speaker 1>blizzard with a power blackout can be frightening, But we've

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<v Speaker 1>also learned that what we mostly do is help each

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<v Speaker 1>other out when on living quietly looking in on the

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor just in case. I think it was a good moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's something to remember till the next time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do try to remember that, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>more occasion every year because the blizzards are getting worse

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<v Speaker 1>because the climate is changing. Nine of Boston's ten worst

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<v Speaker 1>on record snowstorms have happened since nineteen seventy eight, six

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<v Speaker 1>of them since two thousand and three twenty ten, with

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<v Speaker 1>Snowmageddon twenty sixteen, snow Zilla happening today somewhere near you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all going through one big ongoing storm, hunkered down

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<v Speaker 1>but also poking out to see who needs help most.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's still time pulled together by our panic to

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<v Speaker 1>dig out from this storm. The Last Archive is written

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