WEBVTT - Your Journey is YOUR journey 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:03.880 Maybe that's Lisa, and we're just two girls that want 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.360 to have a conversation with you. Dear sixteen year old Andrea, 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:12.360 Hey gorgeous, Dear younger Lauren. Each episode is stories from people. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.760 I would deprive myself by myself obsessively because I was 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:18.360 eating healthy. I couldn't understand that I had a problem 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.079 with food. Losing my period scared me the most. My 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.159 story starts when I was around seven. That's when I 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:27.400 started to hate my body. Body image is like our 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.319 inner picture of our outer self. Healthy behaviors have a 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:33.720 much bigger role at all health than the actual number 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:37.159 on the scales. Internal dialogue can be so powerful and 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.080 often it's super negative and critical in a way that 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:42.360 we wouldn't talk to other people that we care about. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:44.760 When you start to share your story, that gives other 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:46.920 people the courage to share theirs. I know you would 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:49.159 be proud now of how far you have come in 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.640 your relationship to food, exercise, and to yourself. I felt freedom, 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.600 I've gained relationships. I've found my true sense of self worth. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.360 There's one thing I need you to take away. You're 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:05.840 going to be okay, okay, I'm smiling ear to ear 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:09.080 as we start this because Lisa and I are here, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.440 I'm Amy. In case you're new, well this is this 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.480 is a brand new podcast, but sort of not. And 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.640 then Lisa is Lisa Engage you're new, but we are 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.720 beyond excited to say that Outweigh is now its own podcast. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.880 So Outweighed started as a four part series and my 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.680 other podcasts that I do called Four Things with Amy 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.720 Brown and Lisa has been a guest on their multiple times. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.679 Then we co hosted out Way together and we wouldn't 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.560 you know, now we've got our own podcast. So there's 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.679 going to be a new episode every Saturday that you 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:43.120 have to look forward to. We were originally planning on 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.840 doing season two, and then the feedback we received and 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.360 just a couple of other amazing things that all came 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.840 together and happened allowed us to produce this podcast. And 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:56.600 now we're going to be giving you content on Saturdays 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.960 which will include either just Lisa and I talking about 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.000 something that hopefully will be encouraging and inspiring and help 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.160 you not feel alone with whatever you're going through when 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:10.160 it comes to food or exercise or whatever it is. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:14.160 And then we'll also have guests on and sometimes I 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.920 might be just interviewing the guest, sometimes Lisa maybe the 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.440 only with the guest, or sometimes will be together. We're 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:23.960 really a team. This is a passion project of ours 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.400 and we're just gonna do whatever we have to do 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:28.959 to make it happen. Yeah, I mean, I'm also ear 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.360 to ear right now. And it has been so cool 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.200 to learn and meet the Outweigh fam on Instagram, because 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.880 there's no person that listened to one episode of Outweigh 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.600 like you were either have no idea what Outweigh is 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.400 or you were in it to win it with our 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.160 four jam packed with information episodes, so that is what 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.960 propelled us back here for what we thought would be 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.720 season two, but what we planned to be an ongoing 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:59.360 weekly resource for you to continue to learn that a 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:04.040 life without needing disorder or disordered eating outweighs everything else. 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:08.000 So welcome back you guys. That's the tagline, A life 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:12.320 without disordered eating outweighs everything, and we truly believe that. 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.880 But just know that we're two girls on the journey 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.239 with you, and I think even for this first episode, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.280 we kind of wanted to get into that and even 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.000 some of my story and where I was when we 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:28.359 recorded this in March of depending on when you're listening 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:31.120 to this now, that's when we recorded Outweigh for the 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.720 Four Things podcast, and then it aired in April, and 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:39.160 I was fresh off of my Fitness Pal, like literally 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.320 probably right before we recorded, and I almost used the 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.360 recording as a Okay, I'm about to start co hosting 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.240 a special series on disordered eating. And I didn't realize 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.080 that using my Fitness Pal was a disordered behavior. I 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.920 thought it was helping me because I no longer was 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.320 binging and I no longer was purging, So why is 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.000 it that big of a deal that I was having 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.160 the tool that was helped giving me structure to my day? 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.360 But what I didn't realize is how into it I 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.960 was and how dependent I was on it, and how 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.360 I would spend twenty minutes trying to enter in the 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:19.520 waffle that I made from scratch. There was four servings 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.160 and I only ate one. So really, was that an 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.760 eighth of an egg or a whole egg or how many? 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.560 You know? Because my fitness Pal is very detailed, and 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.320 my friend and I were on a walk the other 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.480 day talking about it, and she said, oh, yeah, I 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:35.120 used to enter in the sprinkle of salt that I 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.080 would have because she was tracking her sodium. And I 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.359 get it if you have certain things going on with 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.080 your body where you may need to actually track your sodium. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.640 That's not what we're saying. We're speaking to people like 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:51.000 myself who were doing it just to control every single 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.200 little thing that went in my body so that I 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.479 did not exceed X amount of protein and X amount 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.160 of calories for the day. But what it was doing 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.040 is it was such a mind suck like it was 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.640 sucking and an energy suck like. It was taking up 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.760 so much space in my mind. It was taking up 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.240 so much time in my day, and Outweigh helped me 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.680 get rid of it. But it didn't just happen like that. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.520 And I think Lisa and you can speak to this too. 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.640 We would encourage you, if you haven't listened to that 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.680 first four part series to go back and do it, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.680 or if you have listened to it and things didn't 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.159 just boom change right away for you. Everyone is on 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:31.080 their own journey and it is going to take time, 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:35.279 and it's going to take work. And if you slide 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:40.479 into different patterns that you later realize are healthy for you, 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.520 that's Okay, I was all over the place, but it 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.960 was part of my journey to get me to where 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.800 I am today. Yeah, And if you're listening and you're like, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.920 why is my fitness pell bad or why is it 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:56.440 considered disordered or calorie counting? Essentially why it's classified under 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.520 that category of disordered is because you are not allowing 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.480 your body to lead. You are living with external rules 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.239 about what, how much, and maybe even when to eat. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.520 So whenever we are silencing the body's desires and holding 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.640 onto these external crutches in terms of quantity and so forth, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.880 that is where things can get a little bit messy. Now, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:23.560 perhaps not everybody who uses my fitness Pal falls in 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:27.880 the disordered eating category, but given Amy's history and you know, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.120 I certainly by the let me actually say this, this 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:33.520 might be kind of interesting for you guys. When I 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.400 was in grad school, we were taught to use my 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:41.240 fitness Pal to help people make informed choices. So, like, 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.000 take a moment to kind of let that seep in 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:48.520 as to how normalized this behavior is. I didn't go 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.359 to grad school to learn how to enable people to 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.640 be disordered with food. I went to grad school to 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.320 learn about nutrition and how to empower people. But so 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.400 many of the behaviors that we've been partaking in have 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:06.080 been normalized for a long time, so much so that 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:12.000 my education continued to drill it in me that humans 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:15.520 can't be trusted around food. Therefore they need to be 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.920 meticulous with their counting and tracking if they want to 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.600 blah blah blah. And so I think that it's only 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:28.040 when you realize that the body is magnificent in helping 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:32.200 guide us into what, how much, etcetera, does that really 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.720 shift and you realize how kind of silly the things 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.360 we do are, not because they're silly themselves, but because, 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.400 like Amy, like you said, like your life was just 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.880 eaten up by figuring out how to get one eighth 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.960 of an egg into my fitness Pal. And what that 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.920 does is it keeps you small, It occupies your brain. 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:53.640 It takes away from you know, being the best mom 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:56.200 to Stevenston ins to share. Maybe I'm just using that 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.080 as an example. I know for me, it took away 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.120 from being a present girlfriend at the time or a 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.280 friend to anybody else, because I was kind of just 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.640 obsessed with whatever was going on in my world and 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.200 nothing else mattered other than figuring out how much I 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.400 ate that day, because that was my perceived sense of 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.080 control and all. Second, what you said, Lisad not doesn't 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.480 mean if you're listening to this right now and if 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.440 you're getting defensive of your use of whatever tool it 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.960 is that you use, I would take a second to 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:28.040 do some reflection on what role does it play in 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.360 your life? Maybe you have an okay relationship with that. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.080 I did not so, and that was something I thought 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.840 I did, and I thought because I wasn't partaking in 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:42.719 other disordered habits or eating disordered behaviors that I had 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.920 done in the past, it was fine. And so for me, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.960 it took a while for it to show up as 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.719 a problem for me, and then letting go of it 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.480 was extremely difficult. And that's when I knew how much 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.560 power it had on me. Was the weeks after I 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.040 had let it go, how I would still lay in 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.440 bed at night or wake up in the morning freaking 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.000 out about how was I going to know what I 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.760 was supposed to eat? And I would text Lisa, are 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.640 you sure I can't just enter something in today because 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:14.240 it would really help me know because I'm only supposed 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.600 to have this much protein or I need to have. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:20.120 I need to have this much protein, more protein than 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.440 I've ever consumed in my life. But I wanted to 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:24.320 make sure I was lifting weights and that I was 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.480 going to look a certain way. But it helps you 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.719 let go of all of that, and I had to 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.160 let go with Yeah, I'm not going to be as 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.400 tight as I was because of this, but that's okay. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:38.520 I would rather have softness and more brain space and 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.880 more time for things in life that matter than have 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.880 whatever I was after. You know, we're all about tools 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:48.000 and helping you use tools. And I just heard three 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:50.720 words you said that I think we can all flag 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.120 as checking with our self. Words like not necessarily there 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.720 no no three you're catching them yourself, but for the 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.640 listener and even for myself, like it's we're we need 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.280 to all always be checking in with ourselves, never getting 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.640 too comfortable, and always saying, oh, what's that about? What's 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.440 that about? What's really underlying that? So the three words 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.640 that you said our need like I need to be 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.319 doing that or a certain way, I need to look 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.640 a certain way, or I'm supposed to be doing like 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.080 these are just words that we made up and they 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.120 don't exist. So whenever we say oh, I need to 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:23.959 do this, or to look a certain way, or I'm 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.520 supposed to be eating this. Like let's all outweigh fam Like, 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:31.319 let's flag those words and use them not to say, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.439 you know, hit your wrist and say shame on you. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.880 That's that's not the approach that I ever take with 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.040 any sort of self work, but rather let that light 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:42.800 bulb go off as to something inside is really desperate 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.920 for a sense of control, and peel that back and say, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.040 why why do I feel like I need this pretend 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.680 fake control? Because that's that's what it is. It's not 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.319 actual control. Because you know, Amy, when you were on 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.280 my fitness Pal and you're again trying to calculate that egg, 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:00.520 like that sounds like captivity, not control. Right, I would 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.320 say I wasn't as shackled as I was with my 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.720 other habits, but I had moved maybe too just for 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.760 a visual like shackles on both my hands and both 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.080 my legs for so long. Um, maybe I just had 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.960 moved to maybe the shackles are off my feet, but 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.320 I still had one hand shack that's really powerful actually, 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:25.719 and the behaviors themselves are not as dangerous or harmful, right, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.200 you know, We know that Amy had a history of 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.920 you know, purging and some other things. And I think 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.240 that I see this a lot. By the way, people 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:38.280 who have had eating disorders like anorexia or bulimia find 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.520 I'm gonna put in quotes here freedom and please if 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.520 you're in this stage, like know that that is a 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.000 beautiful place to be as long as we continue to grow. 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:50.920 They find quote unquote freedom when they find a diet 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.880 plan that gives that one shackle, you know, because then 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.640 they're eating. Right, you were eating with with the macro tracking, 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:02.079 but you were mental consumed by it, but you were 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.600 eating and you weren't purging, and so in the absence 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.360 of purging, right, like, are you fine? And that's the 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.800 question to really ask, am I find now that I'm 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.400 not doing this obvious you know, dangerous for my health, 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.880 mental well being, behavior? And it's okay to take off 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.840 one shackle at a time as long as you continue 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.960 to acknowledge that there is one shackle and each day 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.880 you put work into unlock that a little bit. Does 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.480 that make a little sense, It totally does. I think 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:33.679 our goal with since this is are intro to this 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.800 new podcast, is when you listen to this, hopefully you 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:42.400 will find the encouragement to remove the shackle. Now, not 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.959 every episode will relate to you, not every guest may 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.200 relate to you, but I encourage you to listen to 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:52.520 as much as possible, or find other similar things. You 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.800 can listen to, books, you can read, Instagram accounts you 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.760 can follow that are going to be a constant re 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:04.480 all of this conversation. Because when you're following other accounts, 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.280 or reading other books, or maybe even following a diet 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.160 plan that are feeding you opposing information, You're going to 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.120 feel stuck. And I'm not saying Lisa and I are 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.200 the end. I'll be all you need to listen to 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.680 every episode of this podcast, not at all, but I'm 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.960 saying we hope to be a safe space where you 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.240 won't feel triggered. We're trying to be very mindful of that. 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.160 And also, just with that said, some episodes or all 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:31.280 of them maybe a trigger warning. I mean, Lisa, you 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:33.440 can probably speak to that a little bit more, and 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.400 I want you to. I think what's a little bit 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.880 different than us versus a you know, eating disorder Recovery 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.679 podcast is that we want people to tell their stories 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.640 so that somebody who thinks that they're alone in this 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.920 situation can find some hope. So we're a going to 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.240 put trigger warnings on, but we're not gonna, you know, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.680 filter people from telling their stories. That being said, you know, 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.839 the show notes will be a place where we tell 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.920 you what the episode is about as well as put 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.520 important content warnings on. But I know that from you all, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.040 we have had amazing feedback as to what you want, 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.680 and the guests that we have lined up so far 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.600 feed into that, from how to feed your child so 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.120 and and developed children and kids that have healthy relationships 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:21.200 to food, to going through pregnancy and changing bodies too. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.000 I actually don't look like you Lisa and Amy and 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.800 I have an eating disorder or disordered eating. Can you 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:29.960 have people on that tell that side that eating disorders 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.600 don't just live in you know, traditionally thin bodies. From 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.640 everything that you've told us, we are taking back and 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:39.840 turning it into a guest or an expert, and we 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.120 hope to continue to hear from you as to what 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:44.760 you want to hear. So I do want to let 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.320 you know we have a new email address and it's 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.720 hello at Outweighed podcast dot com, and that can be 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.680 the place where you let us know what's going on, 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.880 who you want to hear from, what type of guests, 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.800 And we're doing this for the Outweigh family, and so 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.760 it's dependent on your needs completely, And I would say 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.400 to sending those types of emails are wonderful, But if 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.040 you want to send in your story or you feel 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:11.600 like you're ready to share your story with the Outweigh family, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:16.080 we have an opportunity to give you that. Now, that 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.560 doesn't mean every single email we get is going to 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.760 be featured on the podcast, just to make that clear. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.880 But you know, maybe you're ready to share your story 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.200 and maybe it ends up being here, or maybe it 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.560 ends up being in your circle of friends or you 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.480 have in your nook of the world. How can you 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.400 make a difference with your story? And we want to 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:38.240 hear from you because I think there's power in everyday 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.600 people having a voice and sharing what they've been through 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.560 and then people hearing everyday people and be like, oh yeah, 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:46.920 likely she said. We don't want you to feel alone. 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.040 And so there's all kinds of people going through this. 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.760 We plan on having diverse guests at least to just 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.560 speak to privilege quickly to of where you and I 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.360 are coming from that. It's not lost on us, and 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.280 we just want to make sure everybody feels included here. Yeah, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.000 but I mean, I think you're referring to just like 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.240 our thin bodies and our thin privilege. Despite what we've 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:12.000 gone through with eating disorders and disordered eating, we still 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:15.960 live and occupy bodies that are very socially accepted. And 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.080 we don't just want to have guests on that look 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.360 like us. We want to have guests on that look 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.640 like everybody who lives in I'll just say our country 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.600 or this world, this planet, because the more we hear 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.040 about the human experience, the less alone we feel, the 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:31.920 more we can help each other, and the more we 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.840 can stop to no longer normalize so many behaviors that 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.400 have been normalized in the pursuit of looking one way. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.680 There's no one way to look, there's no one way 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:45.280 to be healthy, and it's so important that everybody finds 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.280 their own empowerment and strength from within. And I'll say 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.240 society has told us that there is one way to look, 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:56.000 and I have fallen captive to that, and especially depending 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:59.320 on maybe what you do for a living, or who 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:02.720 you surround yourselves with or pressures you have on you. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.639 They can come from all different places the pressure, but 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:09.800 society as a whole says, and it's said for for 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.440 years and years and years, this is what you should 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.879 try to look like. And that's what we want to 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.080 undo here as well. We want to be part of 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.760 that conversation of no, actually you don't have to look 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:25.200 like that, and whoever's telling you you you should, let's 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.200 start silencing that. And it's hard because again, when it's 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.840 society telling you that, I go back to I think 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.840 I even mentioned this that way, but I always hear 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.040 Demi Lovado in my head talking about her pressure from 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.280 her her She's in a world and I'm not even 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.399 the biggest Demi Lavado fan that this is such a 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.080 go to for me. It just hit me when one 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.879 day she said, I mean, why am I killing myself 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.199 at the gym three times a day? She's going to 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:53.600 the gym three times a day and doing other unhealthy 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:57.000 habits all to be in a leotard on stage, to 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.200 look a certain way, because that is what society, id 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.879 or her world was saying. You need to look like 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.000 this pop star. This is how pop pop stars look like, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.480 and you should be in this tiny lids heart and 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.520 it's like, no, who says that? And then if she 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.320 wants to be in a lidschard and she doesn't look 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.600 like x y Z pop stars, who cares? That's her body? 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.960 All of our bodies are built so differently, and that's 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:21.239 what we need to I love this. Normalize has been 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.080 a new word for me in and we need to 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:28.760 normalize that. It's okay we all look different. That bodies change, right, 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:30.880 Like so many people are kind of stuck on going 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.040 back to their high school weight, or their college wade, 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.800 or their early twenties or even their early thirties depending 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:37.680 you know. I know, we get all all types of 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:42.160 listeners here. And the best way to continue to be healthy, 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.400 to support our bodies and give them what they need 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.760 is to recognize that body shapes and sizes change over 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.160 time over the life cycle, especially as women whose bodies 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.080 you know, go through different things in order to carry life, 0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:58.760 and again, in order to continue to nourish them and 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.200 show up for them and give them what we need, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.080 we need to understand that they do fluctuate and they're 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.360 not static. And Amy, you said something that I thought 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.399 was really beautiful just about like your body being softer 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.840 a few moments ago. Yes, so I struggle with mental health. 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.960 It's always an ongoing fight. It's been a good couple 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.040 of years, for sure, and I'm really grateful for that. 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.399 But for whatever reason, mornings are really tough for me. 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.639 I just wake up and I even if it's the 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:25.199 best day, like we're about to record and I have 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.720 so many amazing things planned, I just struggle. I struggle 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:29.400 to get out of bed. And what I've been doing 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.600 these last few days, and this was actually a follower 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.320 recommended that I do. This is she said. She puts 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.080 her hand on her chest, on her heart and says, 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.000 I love you, I love you, I love you, and 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.920 she says it softens her. And so I've been putting 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.920 my right hand on my heart and my left hand 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:48.280 on my belly and noticing that my belly feels softer, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.640 and that the first thing that I don't do when 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:53.159 I wake up in the morning is run to the 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:56.320 mirror to check if my exercise regiment is working hard 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:58.600 enough and my abs are there, and you know, pulling 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.600 out whatever is there, as I did in my early twenties. 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.800 It's been a really nice way to wake up, really 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.920 softly and send a little message to myself. So I 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:12.000 encourage everybody to lean into the places of their body 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.119 that they think are so quote unquote awful or unlovable, 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.080 whether it's your legs, your arms, your neck, your belly, 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.520 and place your hands there and send some of your 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.800 own love inward, even even big, big, big, even here 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:27.560 if it feels forced right now and it feels uncomfortable. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.639 So I just wanted to share that little tip of 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.280 anybody else struggles or is just looking for a nice 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.080 way to get out of bed in the morning. Awesome. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.119 I think that's a great place to leave people with 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.959 our first episode and just kind of what you can 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:44.199 expect from this podcast. And thank you Lisa for sharing that. 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.240 I feel like, yeah, it may seem forced at first, 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.919 but it could evolve into something that your body really 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:54.879 appreciates in your mind and will just become second nature. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.680