WEBVTT - Bills By The Numbers: New Defensive Approach With Jim Leonhard?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into another edition of Bills by the Numbers, where

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<v Speaker 1>we let the stats tell you where the Bills are at.

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<v Speaker 1>We're presented by fan We'll make every moment more. With

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Leonard hired as defensive coordinator, we take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the scheme fits on Buffalo's roster, the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>players Buffalo could be looking to add this offseason. Steve

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<v Speaker 1>has quizzed on Super Bowl history, and we'll ask our

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<v Speaker 1>one burning question.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dial up the blitz.

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<v Speaker 1>Very happy to have you here with us on Bills

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<v Speaker 1>by the Numbers. He is Bill's Wall of Famer Steve

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<v Speaker 1>after I'm Bill, played by playman Chris Brown. And as

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Brady's coaching staff rounds into form, we know there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a degree of change, especially on the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball. That is where new defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Leonard is expected to introduce the first scheme change

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<v Speaker 1>for the defense in ten seasons. First question, knowing the

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<v Speaker 1>team's twenty twenty six expectations, Steve, how does this defensive

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<v Speaker 1>staff most effectively get this new scheme up and running

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<v Speaker 1>in one off season?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's it's not just one step. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a multi step process. First of all, whatever guys are

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on this team, you gotta have reps, reps, reps, reps, reps.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be personnel meetings. Certainly. This what this pod

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<v Speaker 2>is about, is how many guys from the four to

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<v Speaker 2>three alignment that they had in for the last ten

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<v Speaker 2>years are gonna be held over and be versatile enough

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<v Speaker 2>or able enough to run a three to four scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>It's and I know it sounds it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>mystery wrapped in a riddle. Most people don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>difference between four three three four and most concepts. Every

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<v Speaker 2>defensive concept you can run out of one, you can

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<v Speaker 2>run out of the other. But you have different types

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<v Speaker 2>of athletes and you get benefits from those athletes. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the real question. What kind of per snel meeting? What

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<v Speaker 2>is it going to mean when Jim Leonard his defensive

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<v Speaker 2>staff come in and start breaking down tape of the

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo Bills from twenty twenty five and say, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>can use this guy, this guy, this guy, and this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully it's like that yeah, and not like we can't

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<v Speaker 2>use that guy. He's not there, we can't use him.

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<v Speaker 2>He can There's gonna be a big roster turnover, I

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<v Speaker 2>think on the front seven of the defensive side of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball. And that's the real question. What kind of

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<v Speaker 2>athlete do they want? What kind of athlete do they have?

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<v Speaker 2>And there are there guys on the roster now that

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<v Speaker 2>can move over into a new scheme like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think without question Jim Leonard as defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>on this staff has the heaviest lift of anyone on

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<v Speaker 1>the staff because of how much will need to change

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<v Speaker 1>just to have the right people on the field to

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<v Speaker 1>execute the scheme. And then a majority of those people

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<v Speaker 1>are not gonna have as much experience playing with one

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<v Speaker 1>another in this new system together, and that's gonna require,

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, tons of reps, tons of time on

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<v Speaker 1>the field together that you're not really gonna get until

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<v Speaker 1>your role in a month to six weeks into the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. This is going to be a learn and

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<v Speaker 1>improve as you go type situation, no matter how talented

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<v Speaker 1>the players you are that you acquire, and no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how gifted Jim Leonard is as a play caller, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of them as a play caller

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<v Speaker 1>just from what he did in his years at Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a heavy lift, one of the heaviest

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<v Speaker 1>this coaching staff has undertaken in the last ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there hasn't been change like this.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have a chance to do this in free agency.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll be able to bolster it, bolster their roster. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able if there are candidates on the roster that

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<v Speaker 2>they can trade and get draft capital for or trade

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<v Speaker 2>player for player. They'll be able to do that. They

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<v Speaker 2>will be able to wash through the roster and get

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<v Speaker 2>types of players that they want who have played in

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<v Speaker 2>a three to four if they so desire. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think this extends all the way into the preseason. You

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<v Speaker 2>might see Josh Allen in a baseball cap for the

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<v Speaker 2>entire preseason. But the defensive starters may be taken, riaks

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<v Speaker 2>out of the play right. They may have to play.

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<v Speaker 2>They may play, and it's a risk because as we've seen,

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<v Speaker 2>injuries or a problem, but it may be worth the

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<v Speaker 2>risk to get these guys some live reps. It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see here Joe Brady, to see if they

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<v Speaker 2>get any joint practices with teams. But yes, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a heavy lift for that side of the football, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a heavy lift for the players

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<v Speaker 2>who are carryovers.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, a big part of getting a scheme to work

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<v Speaker 1>effectively on game day, as we've mentioned, getting the right

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<v Speaker 1>fits for the scheme to maximize the production. So we

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<v Speaker 1>take a look now at Buffalo's current defensive roster in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of players under contract to see which players are

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<v Speaker 1>versatile enough to be fits in Leonard's hybrid scheme. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start up front, which is where the biggest changes are

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen. Leonard's scheme uses principles from the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>schemes of both Wade Phillips and Rex Ryan, and those

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<v Speaker 1>are rooted in an underfront or a three to four,

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<v Speaker 1>but Leonard does subscribe to having five defenders up on

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage a good portion of the time,

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<v Speaker 1>three down linemen two outside linebackers. Will focus on the

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<v Speaker 1>players still under contract rather than any of the free

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<v Speaker 1>agents because it's hard to determine their future. Greg Russo

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<v Speaker 1>is a long angular player with great reach and edge

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<v Speaker 1>setting ability, but if he's playing at a three to four,

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<v Speaker 1>is he heavy enough to play the five technique as

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive end. He's listed at two hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at two sixty five, I'd almost put you need

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<v Speaker 2>to get it. I would say, he needs to get up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. The two eighty Okay, that's a lot. You

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<v Speaker 2>need a little heavier now. I know this. Back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day the Bills ran a three four. During my day,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Smith was a guy. He was like two sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a different dude, but you know it can be done,

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<v Speaker 2>but you gotta you've got to play hard on the rundowns.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it's hard to hold up against a

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<v Speaker 2>guard tackle combination at two sixty five when you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to set the edge. Now, you do get a little

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<v Speaker 2>help by the presence of a guy outside your shoulder,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can imagine unless the team is running weak

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<v Speaker 2>to the weak side, they're gonna there's also gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a running back tight end over there. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people over there at the point of attack,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're expected to hold up. And at two sixty five,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now, granted Greg Russo has got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of leverage, but it brings problems with it. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a different technique, it's a different spot. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying this and we haven't talked about this brown

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<v Speaker 2>and we as in the preparation for this, for this pod.

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<v Speaker 2>There might be guys behind these like a I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>throwing names at like a Faderian Mathis or Andre Jones

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Jones Junior. They may be fitted better for this.

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<v Speaker 2>They may say, Wow, I'm finally I'm gonna get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to play the spot I should play. There might

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<v Speaker 2>be a little of that, but that's not something we know.

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<v Speaker 2>Hard to know you hard to know hard to know.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, Rousseau is a guy that I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>versatile enough to pull it off, but he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>asked to do some different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think even if he gets to two seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably good enough. He's a guy with such length

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<v Speaker 1>that he usually has his hands on the offensive lineman

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<v Speaker 1>before they have his hands on him. That's what gives

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<v Speaker 1>him a very good advantage. I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a major adjustment for him, especially a player that has

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<v Speaker 1>not known anything else. He's young in football. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not for get this was a guy who was

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<v Speaker 1>a one year starter at Miami and then his first

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<v Speaker 1>year here is twenty twenty one, which is the first

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<v Speaker 1>COVID year or second COVID year and things still weren't right.

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<v Speaker 1>Then He's played in only one system here and now

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<v Speaker 1>he has to make this transition. It's good that he's

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran player, but there's gonna be a lot of newness.

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<v Speaker 1>He did to what he has undertake last year. He

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<v Speaker 1>took the twenty twenty year off, was a one year

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<v Speaker 1>starter in twenty nineteen, and then went into the draft pool.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it's going to be a major adjustment

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<v Speaker 1>for a player like that. And I'm not saying he

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<v Speaker 1>can't accomplish it and do it, but I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a learning curve there and he's going to need constant

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<v Speaker 1>instruction to get it all down and be playing like

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<v Speaker 1>a well oiled machine in the first month of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Ed Oliver another interesting case study. He's already seen by

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<v Speaker 1>many as an undersized three technique in a four to three,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not long enough to play five technique in a

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<v Speaker 1>three four front. He has thirty one and three quarter

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<v Speaker 1>inch arms and he's six' one. Where does he fit

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<v Speaker 1>in this scheme?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a tough question, and I don't know that he does.

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<v Speaker 2>He might have to surprise some people with his ability

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<v Speaker 2>to play out out further away from the ball. He

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<v Speaker 2>was he spent the entire season injured. As we know,

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<v Speaker 2>he was off to an incredibly fast start. Ed may

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<v Speaker 2>be one of those guys where another team, there's ten

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<v Speaker 2>coaching openings this year, you may get a call from

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<v Speaker 2>a team like a Cleveland or Las Vegas or somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like that says, hey, what about Ed Oliver. He fits

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<v Speaker 2>better in our scheme than he does yours. Now can

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<v Speaker 2>we have you know, let's let's talk. Ed may get

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<v Speaker 2>traded because he is such a force and a pass

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<v Speaker 2>rush from the from that three technique, from the down

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<v Speaker 2>closer to the ball. As an undersized tackle. You put

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<v Speaker 2>him in conjunction with a guy like Max Crosby in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an upgrade, right, That's an upgrade. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>Ed is a is a hard question to answer in

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<v Speaker 2>this same in this scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, And look, it's not up to us. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just going by height, weight measurements, and length measurements and

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<v Speaker 1>what is typically utilized in a three to four system

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<v Speaker 1>at those positions. Ed just in terms of pure measurements,

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<v Speaker 1>does not meet the threshold of those measurements. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>up to Jim Lennard his defensive staff to make that determination.

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<v Speaker 1>But I agree with Steve. I think there is a

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<v Speaker 1>very good chance he could be a trade candidate this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason for two reasons. One, he doesn't meet the measurement

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<v Speaker 1>requirements to play some of these positions up front effectively

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<v Speaker 1>in a three to four system, and number two, he's

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<v Speaker 1>signed to a long term contract. He is cost control

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<v Speaker 1>at a reasonable figure. Yeah, so I think he would

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<v Speaker 1>not be hard to trade if you chose that root,

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<v Speaker 1>And you may based on what your defensive staff has

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<v Speaker 1>to say, we.

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<v Speaker 2>May not see this the same way the Bill's coaching

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<v Speaker 2>staff does either. They may they may say, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>think we've got a plan for Ed, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna hang on to him and turn them this

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<v Speaker 2>because because the guy's got some talent. I mean, good grief,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a wrecking crew in the first month of

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<v Speaker 2>the season before he tore his bicep. So he's got value,

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<v Speaker 2>real value in the NFL. You don't just want to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kick that to You can't kick that to

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<v Speaker 2>the curb. You got to. You got to if you're

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<v Speaker 2>either get something for a return for or find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to let him exploit his talent.

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<v Speaker 1>The rookies Dion Walker and TJ. Sanders, heading into their

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<v Speaker 1>second NFL season, would appear to be fits Walker as

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<v Speaker 1>a nose tackle, although there's some debate about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let Steve address that Sanders could presumably play defensive ends.

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<v Speaker 1>Six three, three hundred pounds. Javon Solomon is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>case study because you would likely think he moves to

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<v Speaker 1>outside line linebacker, presumably on the strong side, but you

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<v Speaker 1>typically like long players in that role six' three at,

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<v Speaker 1>least with long arms and around two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five pounds and. Up solomon six 't, one two forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven now he does have thirty four inch. Arms that helps,

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<v Speaker 1>him but what's the fit, There.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he would have to overcome his, height but he

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<v Speaker 2>does Have he's very long. ARMED i mean the guy can.

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<v Speaker 2>Reach he also has value and if he can stand

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<v Speaker 2>up and play with his hand off the ground to

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<v Speaker 2>huge plus because he's athletic enough to play out. There

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<v Speaker 2>but as you, said he's he's. Short what he does

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<v Speaker 2>bring to the, tables although too in his special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Prowess the guy can go out and, cover he can

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<v Speaker 2>run down the. Field most of the big dudes that

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<v Speaker 2>play in the front seven can't do. That so he's a,

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<v Speaker 2>valuable versatile athlete WHO i think probably has a spot

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<v Speaker 2>because of his athleticism and his ability to run people

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<v Speaker 2>down from behind and also get to the edge and

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<v Speaker 2>get get to the sideline when they try and run

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<v Speaker 2>wide to his. Side he's got some value as an.

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<v Speaker 2>Athlete even though his measurables may not be. Perfect he

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<v Speaker 2>does have that one. Thing the thing about him is

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<v Speaker 2>he's he got long, arms so he plays taller than he,

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<v Speaker 2>Is so he may be a guy who's a depth

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<v Speaker 2>piece at outside, line but also is still a special,

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<v Speaker 2>team's you, know foundational.

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<v Speaker 1>PIECE i think he's a depth. Piece he is not

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<v Speaker 1>a speed speed. Rusher he's a power. Rusher that's what he.

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<v Speaker 2>Is plays a great leverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Leverage heavy, hands and maybe moving outside to outside linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>could help his game because now he's going against tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends probably and backs more than he is offensive. Tackles

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<v Speaker 1>he would get swallowed up by, big long offensive tackles

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<v Speaker 1>when he was utilized on the pass. Rush now you

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<v Speaker 1>kick him out to outside linebacker and maybe those thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four inch arms help him more against a tight end

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<v Speaker 1>or a back in a pass rush. Matchup but, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>he's a power, Rusher.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a speed bend the edge.

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<v Speaker 1>GUY i want to believe he can get back to

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<v Speaker 1>the sack production we saw that he had in college At,

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<v Speaker 1>troy when he led the nation in sacks with sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>his senior, Season but we have not seen hide nor

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<v Speaker 1>hair of.

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<v Speaker 2>That perhaps a scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>Change helps him at. Linebacker the front line non free

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<v Speaker 1>agents Are Terrel bernard And Dorian, williams if they play

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<v Speaker 1>four linebackers most of the time as expected In leonard's,

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<v Speaker 1>Scheme bernard is likely the weak inside, linebacker And Dorian

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<v Speaker 1>williams is a little bit harder to pin. Down he's

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<v Speaker 1>six y two two hundred and thirty. Pounds that would

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<v Speaker 1>indicate to you his only role in this scheme would

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<v Speaker 1>be As bernard's backup weak inside. Linebacker that position in

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<v Speaker 1>a three to four system typically asks that player to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the most and to be a sideline to sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>Defender in the, scheme your, bigger, heavier mic linebacker is

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<v Speaker 1>more of your run stuff downhill. GUY i think we

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<v Speaker 1>Know bernard And Dorian williams can both do, that so

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<v Speaker 1>they would seem to be fits. There but then you

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<v Speaker 1>saw What Dorian williams was as a blitzer in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half of the season this past year in that, three,

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<v Speaker 1>three five nickel package that the defensive staff deployed with great,

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<v Speaker 1>success and it's, like, man is there a way to

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<v Speaker 1>utilize him on the edge as a stand up guy

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<v Speaker 1>or is he just too small and too?

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<v Speaker 2>Short well as a role. PLAYER i, mean you can

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<v Speaker 2>get these guys on the field and third down and,

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<v Speaker 2>long you, know where you're not really worried about the.

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<v Speaker 2>Run so there's situational. Football, certainly he could help out

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<v Speaker 2>if he's if he's on out, there but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pick and choose kind of role that you're talking, about

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<v Speaker 2>and you're, ideally, well Maybe Jim leonard has a different

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<v Speaker 2>they they didn't like to substitute. Here we may see

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<v Speaker 2>more of, that particularly in the early going with this

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<v Speaker 2>new defensive scheme where you've got guys running on and

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<v Speaker 2>off the field a lot because they haven't found the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that can play three downs or four. Downs, yeah on,

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<v Speaker 2>Defense so that may BE i, think but that's WHAT

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<v Speaker 2>i would See Dorian williams as a, Situationally, yeah he

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<v Speaker 2>can plug into a couple of different spots out, there

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<v Speaker 2>but he can't play all three.

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<v Speaker 1>Downs, Okay, so in light of the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>are twenty two unrestricted free agents and a major scheme

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<v Speaker 1>change on defense is, afoot how drastic could change are

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<v Speaker 1>you anticipating on the defensive side of the ball personnel.

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<v Speaker 2>Wise i'm expecting some. Changes, yeah significantly. Significant, Yeah i'm

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<v Speaker 2>not Saying i'm. No it may be that they can

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<v Speaker 2>use some of the guys that are on the roster

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<v Speaker 2>differently and more, versatilely with more versatility than we're aware.

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<v Speaker 2>Of so some of the guy AND i think there'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably be some unexpected guys who, emerge LIKE. Tj sanders

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<v Speaker 2>may come up and be. Big Dion, WALKER i don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that he has The he's big. Enough he's six,

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<v Speaker 2>seven three point, fifty, RIGHT i, mean the guy's, big

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<v Speaker 2>but he plays a little bit high if your pad level's.

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<v Speaker 2>High he's so, tall he has a hard time bending

0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.679
<v Speaker 2>in knees and getting, low which you've got to do

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna play nose, tackle which is kind of

0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.280
<v Speaker 2>what he's built. For so that may be an issue

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<v Speaker 2>for him that he might not be as effective as

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<v Speaker 2>a nose tackle as he would be a defensive end

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<v Speaker 2>in this. Scheme all of those things will, happen But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm i'm thinking there's going to be significant change and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to see it right out of the gate

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<v Speaker 2>and free.

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<v Speaker 1>Agency, YEAH i think you have to look realistically at

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<v Speaker 1>measurements of players and what they're looking. For outside linebackers

0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.840
<v Speaker 1>in this system have to be at least six foot.

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<v Speaker 1>Three ideally there's six four to six six the long

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<v Speaker 1>arms and they're about two fifty five. Plus that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you need at outside linebacker in this. System you need

0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.359
<v Speaker 1>length out. There and then defensive ends in this system

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<v Speaker 1>are usually two eighty and up two eighty to three

0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:15.960
<v Speaker 1>bills and your nose tackle has to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>plus side of three twenty five to make this system work.

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<v Speaker 2>Effectively we talked about this on The Regular Daily show

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<v Speaker 2>one of you, know you go down and look through

0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 2>the history of the league at all the great nose

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.080
<v Speaker 2>tackles and at the three four, scheme like guys Like

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<v Speaker 2>Curly culp And Ted washington And vince Will. Fork, yeah

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're the one tenth of one. Percenters they are,

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<v Speaker 2>big big human, beings and they are athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>And The bills may need to find two of, them

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<v Speaker 1>one in free, agency one in the. Draft and then

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<v Speaker 1>even at the mike linebacker, spot you don't really have

0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:54.879
<v Speaker 1>somebody that fits that profile right now on your. Roster

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<v Speaker 1>Even Jack thompson had a nice, season but he's six

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<v Speaker 1>foot two point.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty Even Shaq thompson doesn't fit That. Bill you need.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty three and at least two thirty, five, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>You need like A Brian, Urlocker Luke. Keikley you, know six'

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<v Speaker 2>five guy who can run and, who's big and they

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<v Speaker 2>got to be able to beat take, a physical physical

0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:15.760
<v Speaker 2>punting out.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if they're not, that big like let's say, they're

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<v Speaker 1>borderline they're like six two two. Thirty five that guy

0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.720
<v Speaker 1>on tape better play bigger than, his, size Right Like

0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:26.560
<v Speaker 1>shack thompson did.

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<v Speaker 2>This, Year, right yes that guy is as physically unique

0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:34.960
<v Speaker 2>as the nose tackle we're. Talking about you gotta have

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of, those guys and, then theoretically you get

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 2>those two guys, in there your run. Defense's gold. You're

0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.080
<v Speaker 2>fine suddenly, it's, better, suddenly dramatically suddenly teams are, you

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.679
<v Speaker 2>know dropping back on, you know third and it's third. And,

0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:52.399
<v Speaker 2>twelve yeah that's so up until, that point and you

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:54.879
<v Speaker 2>know the compromises you make and those physical gifts and.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys is is the difference you see in the

0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:01.560
<v Speaker 2>analytics when you're Run d fin starts to slide and now.

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<v Speaker 2>You're up you know you're giving up four point eight

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Yards per russians to the three.

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<v Speaker 1>Point seven we transition now to the numbers Game where

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<v Speaker 1>steve will be Quized During Super bowl Week On Super.

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl history here. We go question, number one who has

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<v Speaker 1>Won More? Super BOWLS the afc OR.

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<v Speaker 2>The nfc steve.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a fifty to fifty, SHOT, here nfc you, are

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>correct IT'S the nfc by the thinnest. Of, margins REALLY

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<v Speaker 1>the nfc has won fifty thirty times. THIRTY nine afc

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<v Speaker 1>has won twenty. Nine times there. You go let's HOPE

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<v Speaker 1>the nfc wins another. This week question, number TWO what

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<v Speaker 1>nfl division holds The Most super? BOWL Titles afc nordy

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<v Speaker 1>incorrect AT The, Afc, North.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, i'm sorry that's, NOT, RIGHT Nfc, NFC.

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<v Speaker 1>East nfc, East correct, i'm sorry Fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>SUPER bowls i should have Known, That.

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<v Speaker 1>Giants eagles. Washington, team Yeah in Dallas. And dallas they

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<v Speaker 1>All Have super. Bowl titles, question three HOW many nfl

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<v Speaker 1>teams have never Reached The?

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<v Speaker 2>Super bowl? Never reached just, Get.

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<v Speaker 3>There Carolina, And jacksonville arizona has made it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, just Vegas, Count, As, oakland, Yes, Okay, Uh, Tennessee

0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:55.680
<v Speaker 2>wow minnesota's been there, A bunch chicago's. Been, There Huh

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<v Speaker 2>Green bay. THEY'RE all, i mean it's. Let's, see uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's say i'm gonna say going through, THE teams, I am,

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<v Speaker 2>I know. I am cleveland has never, made It, And

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:15.840
<v Speaker 2>arizona arizona's.

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<v Speaker 3>Made it.

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<v Speaker 2>Atlanta has. Made It.

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<v Speaker 1>M WHO did i say that we're Whittling, Madly.

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<v Speaker 2>Carolina, jacksonville cleveland that may?

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<v Speaker 1>Be.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Yeah three the answer. Is FOUR who'd? I?

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<v Speaker 1>Miss well carolina has been To A, Super Bowl cam

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<v Speaker 1>newton And with Jake, delom So, It's, Cleveland, jacksonville Houston.

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.639
<v Speaker 2>And detroit houston's never Made.

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<v Speaker 1>The Texans and detroit never. Made it so the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Is four, OH wow i didn't have it right.

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<v Speaker 2>Either.

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<v Speaker 1>Initially uh question, number four who was the last running

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<v Speaker 1>back To Win?

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:03.840
<v Speaker 2>SUPER?

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl Mvp? Terrell, davis oh right out of the shoot

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<v Speaker 1>he Nailed At super bowl, Thirty Two terrell davis.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty, two yeah it's been.

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<v Speaker 1>A minute who it's like nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Ninety nine that was when they Were In Jack murphy

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<v Speaker 2>Stadium In san diego against.

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<v Speaker 1>The Old alex gibbs zone. Blocking Machine When terrell davis

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 1>was rolling up two Thousand yard he came.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of that game because he had. A migraine because

0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 2>he and the problem was, that's right he did suffer.

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 2>From migraine his his braces, he wore his braces. Were

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.520
<v Speaker 2>tight they so they adjusted his braces and relieved the

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 2>pressure on his jaw and they the migraine, went away

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and he came back in and. Crushed, it wow that's.

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<v Speaker 2>A story i did. Not know, oh, yeah yeah there.

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<v Speaker 2>You go are you working the sidelines for? That One,

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<v Speaker 2>Uh NO but i WAS with CBS and I was

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<v Speaker 2>i was actually watching. THIS town i was working, the,

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<v Speaker 2>Media OKAY and i don't know whether that was, ACTUALLY

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<v Speaker 2>yeah i was not working, That, game okay it was.

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0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>agents at receiver and a potential cap casualty at the position,

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>as well and the pressure to be just, as good if,

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>not better on offense in twenty twenty six under a

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<v Speaker 1>new Head Coach, joe brady HOW Does Gm brandon bean

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:41.120
<v Speaker 1>address the receiver position this. Off, season well.

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:46.679
<v Speaker 2>He'll well it's been widely reported and made clear that

0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>he attempted to try and trade for a big time

0:24:49.760 --> 0:24:52.639
<v Speaker 2>wide out at the trade deadline last year and was

0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 2>rebuffed even though he had the. Best offer the guy was,

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 2>Not TRADED so i think he will attend to continue to.

0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 2>DO that i think they will probably take the lid off, and,

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 2>say listen we're going to fix. This time it's been.

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Two years we did a really nice job with. Year

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.040
<v Speaker 2>one year two had got more problematic because of. The

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 2>injuries they must have had ten different guys that play wide.

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<v Speaker 2>Receiver FORM so i think he will both draft, a

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<v Speaker 2>player he will sign a player or two in, free

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<v Speaker 2>agency and they will rinse through the roster. AS well

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<v Speaker 2>i don't know that it will be a, completely different in,

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion mostly different wide receiver room when they take.

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<v Speaker 1>The, FIELD yeah i believe knowing the offense has to

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<v Speaker 1>be as good, or better and knowing what was missing on,

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<v Speaker 1>the outside and knowing you can't wait on somebody to

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<v Speaker 1>develop as, A rookie i think he tries to acquire

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<v Speaker 1>a proven commodity at the receiver position, via trade unless

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<v Speaker 1>so try and be a loose Free, agency yeah but,

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<v Speaker 1>EVEN then i don't think they want to roll the

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<v Speaker 1>dice on that and hope the guy transitions TO the. Nfl,

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<v Speaker 1>Game well i'll give you a. Perfect Example josh reed

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<v Speaker 1>was a second round pick Of the bills in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two AND at lsu IN, The Sec josh

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<v Speaker 1>reed averaged one hundred and forty five yards receiving. Per

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<v Speaker 1>game he came TO the nfl and it never looked.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that you can't count, on that even with one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best wide receiver coaches to develop talent in.

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<v Speaker 1>The UNIVERSE so i think what he does ultimately is

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a proven commodity at the, receiver position either,

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<v Speaker 1>via TRADE and i think that's more likely trade than

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<v Speaker 1>free agency because there's been a lot of swings and

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<v Speaker 1>misses in free agency where they haven't panned out here for.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever REASON so i think he gets he was successful

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<v Speaker 1>the last time he traded for a proven Commodity With.

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<v Speaker 1>STEFAN diggs i think he takes another swing at the

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<v Speaker 1>plate with a, trade opportunity AND then i agree, WITH

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<v Speaker 1>you i think they draft one. As well it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good receiver draft talent can be, had THERE and i

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<v Speaker 1>think as long as You Have josh allen as, your

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback you should draft at least one receiver every. Single

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<v Speaker 1>year not saying it has to be a first round pick,

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<v Speaker 1>every year but somewhere between round one and, round five

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a draft a receiver every. Single year if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a Quarterback Like.

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<v Speaker 2>JOSH allen i.

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<v Speaker 1>Think somebody could, get hurt somebody could not pan out

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<v Speaker 1>the way, you thought and as long as you keep

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<v Speaker 1>having people in, the pipeline you enhance your chances of

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<v Speaker 1>not only hitting, on somebody but also. Developing somebody the

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<v Speaker 1>time to develop somebody into a.

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<v Speaker 2>Potential, star yeah they're not in my opinion at. This

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<v Speaker 2>point if depending on what happens in. Free agency if

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<v Speaker 2>they sign a couple of wideouts or a white out

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<v Speaker 2>or make a trade for a whiteout who's, proven commodity

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<v Speaker 2>that receiver that they're going to draft will drop further

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<v Speaker 2>and further down the pecking order in the. Draft picks

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't get a, guy there then then. You

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<v Speaker 2>run there's an opportunity. There, where yeah maybe they will

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<v Speaker 2>go a high draft pick wide receiver in the. First

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<v Speaker 2>ROUND but i YOU and i. BOTH agree i think

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<v Speaker 2>the number one pick this, year's draft if they've still got,

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<v Speaker 2>the pick is going to be on the defensive side of.

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<v Speaker 1>The, Ball, AGAIN yep i don't know if there'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a quality edge. Rusher there you could get, one linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>could get one of the two or three best linebackers

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft there at. Twenty six not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of linebackers inside guys go in, round one so you

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<v Speaker 1>have a good chance at twenty six to get one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two or three best linebackers in the. Entire

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<v Speaker 1>class that could. Be tempting our closing figure Deals with

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<v Speaker 1>bills team single. Season scoring in the sixty six seasons

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<v Speaker 1>of football played By The, buffalo bills they have scored

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<v Speaker 1>more than four hundred and seventy five points in a

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<v Speaker 1>season just. Four times in two of those, four seasons

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<v Speaker 1>their offensive play caller was Head Coach. Joe brady they

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<v Speaker 1>scored a team record five hundred twenty five points in twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and this past season they scored four hundred eighty,

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<v Speaker 1>one points good for fourth best in. Team History so

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<v Speaker 1>brady's offense has the first and fourth highest scoring Offenses

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<v Speaker 1>in bill's history in just two full seasons in the. Coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>role naturally we all hope that continues as he ascends

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<v Speaker 1>to the head.

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<v Speaker 2>Coaching position that's going TO be i think very key

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<v Speaker 2>to the success of. This TEAM they i think they

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit Like The cincinnati bengals have been accused.

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<v Speaker 2>Of doing they've they got, OUTSCORE people i think in

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<v Speaker 2>the particularly in the first half of. This season depending

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<v Speaker 2>on how the roster management goes on the, DEFENSIVE side

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<v Speaker 2>i think this offense is going to be asked to carry,

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<v Speaker 2>the load.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah for the, first month month and a half

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<v Speaker 1>of the season, for sure while the defense kind of

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<v Speaker 1>rounds into form and gets its bearings in a brand.

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<v Speaker 1>New scheme as we've discussed for the majority of. This

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