1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Okay, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Steffan 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Never Told You Protection by Heart Radio, and welcome to 3 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: another sub stub subsegment of fictional women around the world. 4 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Today we were talking about Piper Hallowell, played by Holly 5 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Marie Combs from the TV show Charmed, and I loved Charmed. 6 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Piper was my favorite. I liked Phoebe more at first. 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: But then I moved on to Piper. 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: I have to say I haven't rewatched it, and even 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: at the time, even when I was younger, I knew. 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: Some of it was pretty problematic, but. 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: I did love it, and I think maybe I loved 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: her the most because she was the middle child, like 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: the Peacekeeper, which I related to, but also her powers 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: were the coolest in my opinion, and I had a 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: huge crush on her. In Universe son Chris oh man Man, 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: I bought like the DVDs of that season. I watched 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: that season more than once. I read the fan fiction 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: and I actually saw the actor who played Chris at 19 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: Dragon con once and he definitely did kind of a 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: double take at my disco Luke Skywalker conplay, so he's 21 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: seen me. 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: He knows you exist. I love it. 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Yes, who knows if it was a good double taker 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: bad double take, but a double take was had and 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: not a plug. But the actors who played Piper, her 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: husband Leo, and their son Chris. They have a Charmed 27 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: rewatch podcast on our very own network called The House 28 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: of Hallowell. Again, I haven't listened to it, but I 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: ran into that when I was researching this. Okay, So 30 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Charmed was a show that ran from nineteen ninety eight 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: to two thousand and six. It was rebooted in twenty eighteen. 32 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: It centered on the Charmed Ones, three very powerful sisters 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: who are good witches, which at first was Phoebe, Piper, 34 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: and Prue, but then Prue after Preue's death, Page was introduced. 35 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: While it's a very monster evil of the week kind 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: of show, there are some overarching themes and relationships over 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: the seasons. 38 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: And yeah, it was really popular. 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: It earned a cult following, but it was also like 40 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: popular Beyond that, there's a video game which I didn't know. 41 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: Books and yes I have all those books. 42 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: I have them. 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: Still, a board game. There's comic books soundtracks which, interestingly enough, 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: if you watch the show, you know at the end, 45 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: especially in the early seasons they usually would have like 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: a band playing at Piper's club. A lot of that 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,119 Speaker 1: music they can't use anymore because of licensing, so it's 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:03:00,119 Speaker 1: really interesting to see how they get around it. Anyway, 49 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: For a while, it held the title of most watch 50 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: show with all female leads. It takes place in modern 51 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: day San Francisco, and one of the common themes is 52 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: that they're modern women who are witches and are trying 53 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: to have ordinary lives, probably especially Piper, I would say. 54 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: When the show starts, the relationship between the sisters is 55 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: very strained. The youngest, Phoebe, has returned from New York 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: to live with her sisters and their mansion in San Francisco. 57 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: She finds a book of shadows in their attic and 58 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: their powers awaken, revealing that they are the most powerful 59 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: which is ever and it is their duty to protect 60 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: innocence in the world. At first, Piper and Prue don't 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: believe Phoebe, but soon they can't ignore it. In fact, 62 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I remember very clearly aligned from this which this first episode, 63 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: which I haven't seen since it came out. Probably sometimes 64 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Prue can be something. 65 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: That rhymes with the witch. Just reber. 66 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Their mother was a witch, and their grandmother bound their 67 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: powers when they were born and erased some of their 68 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: like magic related memories to keep them safe. Growing up, 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: Piper felt very ordinary compared to her sisters. Pru often 70 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: called her Jan Brady. She stayed home for college and work. 71 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: She was very much like I'm staying here, and she 72 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: was the one that was probably closest to their grandmother. 73 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: But after this, which thing happens, it all comes out. 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Piper develops the power of molecular immobilization. Basically she can 75 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: freeze time, but later it develops where she can speed 76 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: things up or even explode things. She can do witchy 77 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: things like spellcasting, all that stuff. At first, she hates 78 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: her powers and being a witch. It scares her. She 79 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: just wants this normal life, but over time she accepts them. 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: She I totally forgot about this. She went so far 81 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: as to go to a church to see if she'd 82 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: be struck by lightning. 83 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was not. 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: Together, the sisters by a variety of demons, monsters, the 85 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: source of all evil, all of that, all while balancing 86 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: their social lives and personal relationships. When Prue died in 87 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: season three and younger half sister Page was introduced, Piper 88 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: became the oldest sister, which was a role she really 89 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: struggled with. Piper also struggled with her feelings for the 90 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: sister's white Lighter, which is kind of like your guardian 91 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: angel Leo, and this relationship is a forbidden relationship. However, 92 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: they eventually went on to Mary and have their son, 93 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: Wyatt and later Chris. A supernatural force separates them in 94 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: the fifth season and Piper went all, I'm going to 95 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: control the weather and destroy everything and almost deshored San Francisco, 96 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: but later they were reunited and just because I have to. 97 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: In the sixth season, a mysterious white Lighter from the 98 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: future named Chris is introduced, and the sisters are incredibly suspicious, 99 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: especially because he's introduced after Leo is kept from them. 100 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: He warns them that Piper's son and the future Wyat, 101 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: becomes evil and he's here to find out why. But 102 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: it turns out he is Piper's second son that she 103 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: is currently pregnant with. Oh yes, adult time traveler Chris 104 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: is killed trying to protect baby Wyatt while his current 105 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: baby self is born, and you can bet I was 106 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: not happy, And yeah, this is like, we don't have 107 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: enough time to go into everything that Piper went through. 108 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: The show explores all kinds of things like monster transformation, hallucinations, 109 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: which of the deadly sends to you embody, time travel, 110 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: past lives. Piper tries to banquished Phoebe at one point 111 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: for reasons for reasons, but she also has a daughter, 112 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Melinda halliwell later on that sour's end the show. 113 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: She loves cooking. In the beginning of the show, she 114 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: owns the club. 115 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 1: P three because you know P three, which is where 116 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: the show would frequently end. And yes, the musical acts 117 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: would play, and a lot of them are pretty impressive. 118 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I remember Googo Doll showing. 119 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: Up at one point. 120 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: I was like what what. Piper later went on to 121 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: open her own restaurant called Hallowell's. Leo gives up his 122 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: wings and they grow older with Piper in Possession of 123 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: the Book of Shadows. Obviously, sisterhood is a huge part 124 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: of the show. 125 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: That's kind of the whole thing. 126 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that Piper, you know, she's my 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: favorite character. She's definitely the most like she's got the 128 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: motherhood arc that's like her thing. She's got the kind 129 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: of they all have relationship arcs. Do not get me wrong, 130 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: but she's got kind of like the steady I'm with 131 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: this white lighter guy. 132 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: She had her she had a couple other guys in 133 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: the early seasons. 134 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: She likes cooking like she's a very she's kind of 135 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: very maternal a lot ways or like traditionally feminine is 136 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. But yeah, she was. She 137 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: was definitely my favorite, and she was the one. Like 138 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: I said, she learned a lot from her grandmother. There 139 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: was a lot of Yeah, that was just a lot 140 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: of learning from people in your family, balancing people in 141 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: your family. And Piper's often called the heart of the family. 142 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: She volunteers, she knits, She knits things for others. She 143 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: tries to help you where she can. She's very romantic. 144 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: She's a very very romantic person. But she was super popular. 145 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: She frequently is in the top ten. But at least 146 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: what I saw a top ten list of pop culture, 147 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: which is so she resonated. Her powers are so cool, 148 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 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