Speaker 1: To Sean Hannity Show, toll free, it's eight hundred and
Speaker 1: nine to four one, Shawn, if you want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the program. If it is true, and
Speaker 1: I have my doubts that Governor Tim Walls tampon, Tim
Speaker 1: wants to in fact now work in conjunction with ICE
Speaker 1: and get violent criminals off the streets in the state
Speaker 1: of Minnesota out of the city of Minneapolis, and Mayor
Speaker 1: Smallfry wants to do the same thing. That that would
Speaker 1: all be a positive result. If anybody I think is
Speaker 1: capable of doing the job doing the job right, that
Speaker 1: would be Tom Homan. But you can't keep going out
Speaker 1: there saying gestopo, Gestapo, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi and whipping people's
Speaker 1: minds into a frenzy and expect any other result than
Speaker 1: what's been happening in Minnesota. You know, just a reminder
Speaker 1: the attacks of Democrats, unrelenting attacks against ICE agents. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we've gone through and we scroll on TV and we
Speaker 1: met on radio all of the violent murderers, rapists, child molesters,
Speaker 1: h drug dealers, pedophiles and other violent criminals that ICE
Speaker 1: has already arrested, which is making the people in Minnesota
Speaker 1: more safe and more secure, which is in restoring law
Speaker 1: and order in spite of, you know, the sanctuary state
Speaker 1: and city policies of these these idiot politicians. They caused
Speaker 1: all of this chaos. Never mind that they all lied
Speaker 1: for four years. Know the border's closed, the border secure,
Speaker 1: borders closed, border secure. No twelve million plus unvetted Harris Biden,
Speaker 1: May Orcissy illegals, known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals,
Speaker 1: cartel members, gang members, drug dealers. It's not complicated. Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has to clean up this mess if we're ever
Speaker 1: going to restore sanity in this country and get American
Speaker 1: citizens safe and secure. But here are Democrats. They're unrelenting
Speaker 1: attacks on ICE.
Speaker 2: Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no
Speaker 2: due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United
Speaker 2: States of America today.
Speaker 3: When I see ICE, I see slave controls. These ICE
Speaker 3: agents running around our communities like masked bank robbers, terrorizing women.
Speaker 3: ICE federal agents pulling up terrorizing our communities, hopping out
Speaker 3: of unmarked vans, stealing and yes, kidnapping people.
Speaker 4: An authoritarian government in Washington, DC is dispatching masked agents
Speaker 4: to abduct immigrants from our streets.
Speaker 5: This is just stoppo like behavior.
Speaker 6: There should be no question to what our country would
Speaker 6: look like have the Confederacy won.
Speaker 7: The actions of Ice.
Speaker 8: They are.
Speaker 4: Unconstitutional, unlawful, They are cruel, they are rogue, They are racists,
Speaker 4: and they are terrorizing communities. They are sowing chaos and
Speaker 4: terrorizing community.
Speaker 6: We're observing gestapo tactics by federal immigration law enforcement in
Speaker 6: Minnesota as well as around the country. You all remember
Speaker 6: the name Renee Good, and you say her name, you
Speaker 6: say her name.
Speaker 9: It does look like a Gestapo operation.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's modern day Escapo is scooping folks up off
Speaker 2: the streets. They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped
Speaker 2: off to foreign torture dungeons. We have got children in
Speaker 2: Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside. Many
Speaker 2: of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank.
Speaker 2: Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota.
Speaker 5: Joining US now.
Speaker 1: Is State Representative of Minnesota, Walter Hudson is with us.
Speaker 1: He testified before Congress the House Oversight Committee about the
Speaker 1: extreme corruption happening in his state under Mayor French Fry
Speaker 1: and Tampon, Tim and congress Woman Omar and the AG
Speaker 1: Keith j Ellison. Just today, I'm a few anyway. Representative,
Speaker 1: great to have you, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 1: Sorry what's happening in your state, but thank goodness, a
Speaker 1: lot of really dangerous, bad people have already been captured.
Speaker 1: I want the people of Minnesota safe and secure. I
Speaker 1: want ICE agents to be able to do the job
Speaker 1: that they were hired to do and not be impeded
Speaker 1: in that process. And all of these incidents are all preventable,
Speaker 1: but this rhetoric is whipping people's minds into a frenzy
Speaker 1: and causing the most volatile environment possible.
Speaker 10: Well, Sean, I wish it was just the rhetoric, but
Speaker 10: as we seem to be learning, has been reported on
Speaker 10: by Fox Digital and others, it's very clear that there's
Speaker 10: a widespread, well funded, complicatedly organized effort at active insurrection
Speaker 10: in the state of Minnesota that appears to involve many
Speaker 10: Democrat political operatives, including potentially Democrat elected officials in this state.
Speaker 10: And I have wonder if this sudden sense of cooperation
Speaker 10: that I tend to agree with your suspicions, I'll believe
Speaker 10: it when I see it. When it comes to Tim
Speaker 10: Walls might be motivated by the leverage that the FEDS
Speaker 10: currently have over Democrats here in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what the motivation is. I accept
Speaker 1: you know, what was the motivation of lying to the
Speaker 1: American public for four years? And I said this yesterday
Speaker 1: on this show, I said it on TV last night.
Speaker 1: You know, if you really want context and you really
Speaker 1: want to understand why an incident like what happened in
Speaker 1: this latest shooting is possible. Yeah, you're right, because we
Speaker 1: have the signal chat groups of people. Do we know
Speaker 1: if this individual that was shot over the weekend? Do
Speaker 1: we know if he was on that signal chat? Has
Speaker 1: anyone been able to determine that at this point, I've
Speaker 1: not heard anything.
Speaker 10: I don't know that any official investigators have established that
Speaker 10: as fact. However, I have been hearing chatter that he
Speaker 10: was to that signal chat and that the folks who
Speaker 10: were part of it certainly were responsible for designing and
Speaker 10: executing their insurrection operation on that day.
Speaker 1: I've had a pistol carry permit my entire adult life.
Speaker 1: I've had one even in New York City. If you
Speaker 1: can believe it, if you get enough death threats, you
Speaker 1: can get one. I had it when I lived in
Speaker 1: California in the eighties, and Alabama and Georgia when I
Speaker 1: went back to New York and now in the Free
Speaker 1: State of Florida.
Speaker 8: And with.
Speaker 1: A carry permit comes a massive responsibility, and not the
Speaker 1: least of which is don't resist the rest and get
Speaker 1: into a confrontation with anybody, never mind law enforcement. Don't
Speaker 1: get into confrontations. I can only tell you from my
Speaker 1: own personal training and experience, and I'm not against the
Speaker 1: fact that he had a gun.
Speaker 5: That's not a problem for me.
Speaker 1: I believe in the right to keep in bare arms,
Speaker 1: but also with that right comes a responsibility be trained
Speaker 1: in the safe use of it. You know, you learn
Speaker 1: situational awareness and de escalation and you don't run into
Speaker 1: the middle of a confrontation and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: that weapon comes out and all hell is predictably going
Speaker 1: to break loose.
Speaker 10: Well, and that's especially true here in the state of Minnesota, Sean,
Speaker 10: because our laws when it comes to gun usage and
Speaker 10: self defense are so backwards that you have what's called
Speaker 10: a duty to retreat in this state, meaning that if
Speaker 10: somebody's actively trying to attack you, and some judge somewhere
Speaker 10: determines that you reasonably could have escaped the situation as
Speaker 10: a poised as opposed to deploying your firearm, then you
Speaker 10: could end up being the one going to prison in
Speaker 10: part of the fact that you were the victim, and
Speaker 10: so on that context, it's so utterly ridiculous for people
Speaker 10: to sit here and defend a guy going armed with
Speaker 10: multiple clips of ammunition for the purpose of confronting law enforcement.
Speaker 10: And you're absolutely right. I've talked to several experts in
Speaker 10: firearm training and training for permit to carry and what
Speaker 10: have you here in the state, all of whom have said,
Speaker 10: this is a textbook example of everything we tell people
Speaker 10: not to do when they train them to qualify for
Speaker 10: their permit to caureity.
Speaker 1: So, prior to yesterday, in the conversation Tampon Tim had
Speaker 1: with President Trump, he had been reluctant, resistant, uncooperative, would
Speaker 1: not work with ICE, would not as a sanctuary state,
Speaker 1: they would not cooperate, although he said something to the contrary,
Speaker 1: but it's not true because there are apparently apprehended in
Speaker 1: the state right now one three hundred and sixty illegal
Speaker 1: immigrants that are being held for various crimes, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he did a woint eighty and
Speaker 1: now he's gonna I guess he says he'll cooperate with
Speaker 1: Ice mayor you know, small fry. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: going to cooperate with anybody. But you know, I'm this hope,
Speaker 1: I mean if, but these are the people that have
Speaker 1: been pouring gasoline on the fire out there.
Speaker 10: Yeah, which again leads me to the question of what changed.
Speaker 10: And I don't know the exact answer to that question,
Speaker 10: but I have to imagine that things have developed to
Speaker 10: the point, especially due to all of the incredible sleuthing
Speaker 10: that's been done by folks online on platforms like x
Speaker 10: and what have you, in combination with professional media and
Speaker 10: such as your colleagues. So much evidence is out there now.
Speaker 10: It's just been flooding out that this is a coordinated
Speaker 10: effort at undermining the supremacy clause of the United States Constitution.
Speaker 10: That Trump probably has a leverage where he can do
Speaker 10: what Trump does and make pick up the phone and say, listen,
Speaker 10: this is what's going to happen to you if you
Speaker 10: don't cooperate. And we've got the goods. We've got you
Speaker 10: dead to rights and you need to start working with
Speaker 10: us or you're not going to like the next step.
Speaker 10: I suspect that something like that is what's taking place,
Speaker 10: but of course it's just speculation.
Speaker 1: Well, I am privy a little bit to the call.
Speaker 1: It was apparently a cooperative call, and for the first time,
Speaker 1: Walls has said that he's now willing to cooperate with ICE.
Speaker 1: If they would have cooperated from day one instead of
Speaker 1: going down the Gestapo Nazi route, we wouldn't be in
Speaker 1: this situation. If Democrats didn't allow all these unvetted violent criminals,
Speaker 1: known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals and others into
Speaker 1: the country, we wouldn't be in this situation. So they
Speaker 1: caused the entire problem. Then they create sanctuary status. You
Speaker 1: know how much money? I mean, I know you're looking
Speaker 1: into some of the corruption issues. I saw an article
Speaker 1: today that the amount of fraud is in the billions
Speaker 1: of dollars. The Trump Education Secretary Linda McMahon says thousands
Speaker 1: of dead people were getting student loans in Minnesota on
Speaker 1: top of empty daycare centers. And you know, the somalis
Speaker 1: an eighty percent autism rate and eighty nine percent I
Speaker 1: read is that the right number of the Somali population
Speaker 1: inside of Minnesota getting some welfare benefit.
Speaker 9: Is that true understanding?
Speaker 10: And yeah, the US Attorney for the District of Minnesota
Speaker 10: said that we're looking at potentially nine billion dollars and
Speaker 10: that's just looking at fourteen particular programs, and that's only
Speaker 10: looking at like criminal fraud. The point that I tried
Speaker 10: to make when I spoke the House oversight a week
Speaker 10: or so ago was that we have to expand our
Speaker 10: scope beyond just the breaking of the law and actually
Speaker 10: look at the structure of the laws here in the
Speaker 10: state of Minnesota, which I believe have been constructed specifically
Speaker 10: to allow people to take benefits that most folks in
Speaker 10: Minnesota assume are a hand up, a temporary help in
Speaker 10: order to get people into a better place, turn those
Speaker 10: benefits into business, into an industry that only gets hungrier
Speaker 10: and hungrier and requires more and more government funding.
Speaker 1: All right, quick, break right back more with Minnesota State Rep.
Speaker 1: Walter Hudson on the other side. Then we'll get to
Speaker 1: your calls coming up A toll free telephone numbers eight
Speaker 1: hundred nine four one sean as we continue.
Speaker 5: We continue now.
Speaker 1: State Representative Minnesota Walter Hudson as with us during your
Speaker 1: time testimony, I noticed that you did focus on the
Speaker 1: thousand plus illegal immigrants currently held in Minnesota prisons in jails.
Speaker 1: The administration counts that number at thirteen hundred and sixty.
Speaker 5: Is that about right? And do you really believe.
Speaker 1: I think this will be the litmus test of whether
Speaker 1: or not Walls means what he says. Is Walls going
Speaker 1: to now hand them over to Ice the way he
Speaker 1: should or is he going to protect them the way
Speaker 1: he's been doing.
Speaker 10: It's certainly one of the litmus tests, and will know
Speaker 10: if he provides any sort of resistance to that whatsoever,
Speaker 10: then we'll know he's not serious about whatever he had
Speaker 10: with the President about Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, I bet you most people aren't even aware.
Speaker 1: A border patrol agent was shot and killed guarding the
Speaker 1: Canadian border last Monday. I didn't even know it until
Speaker 1: I saw it on foxnews dot com. Border patrol agent shootout.
Speaker 1: Armed suspects identified forty four year old Customs and Border
Speaker 1: Protection source telling Fox News anybody know his name? Anybody
Speaker 1: any protesting, any outrage? It's sort of like all these
Speaker 1: kids on college campuses, you know, f reed Palestine, Gaza,
Speaker 1: you know, attacking Israel. Where are they standing in solidarity
Speaker 1: with the Iranians? You know, up to an estimated thirty
Speaker 1: five thousand slaughter just out there peacefully protesting for freedom.
Speaker 5: I don't, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't see any protests at Columbia or Brown or
Speaker 1: Havevid or any of these elite institutions, do you.
Speaker 10: No, It's definitely selective concern. And that's why when we
Speaker 10: have this whole conversation over you know, who's going to
Speaker 10: be compassionate, who's going to be empathetic? My question is
Speaker 10: why are we selectively compassionate? Why are we selectively empathetic?
Speaker 10: Why do we only seem to care about certain people
Speaker 10: in certain situations and others get completely ignored. There's a
Speaker 10: lot of redacted stories out there that reflective reality that
Speaker 10: folks on the other side of the aisle, the Democrats
Speaker 10: are apparently have no interest in, no empathy for, no compassion,
Speaker 10: for They're only interested in that which fuels their narrative
Speaker 10: and paves their pathway to power. And it's pretty pathetic.
Speaker 1: It really is pathetic. All right, Do you have any
Speaker 1: access to tim Walls. Do you have any access to
Speaker 1: mayor Smallfry?
Speaker 10: Not directly. I mean I've seen I've been in the
Speaker 10: legislature for three years. I've seen Tim Walls three times,
Speaker 10: and it was usually for him to pass out limon
Speaker 10: bars on the first day session on the House floor.
Speaker 10: He's kind of the absentee governor. He likes to tour
Speaker 10: the nation a lot and talk tough. I rarely see him,
Speaker 10: if ever, in the corridors of the capital. So no,
Speaker 10: no direct contact to answer your question.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, we appreciate what you do, and we really
Speaker 1: do your I guess a rare voice of sanity inside
Speaker 1: of Minnesota right now. And you know what, I want
Speaker 1: the people in your state to be safe and secure.
Speaker 1: I also want the illegal criminals taken out of your state.
Speaker 1: We owe it to people to have law and order
Speaker 1: and safety and security. And you're right, the supremacy clause
Speaker 1: does matter. A state representative Walter Hudson, sir, thank you.
Speaker 1: We appreciate your time.
Speaker 10: Appreciate you. Thanks.
Speaker 5: I don't think you can play this enough.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mentioned just a short time ago,
Speaker 1: and I'm mentioning throughout the program today, how many people
Speaker 1: know that a border agent was shot and killed guarding
Speaker 1: the border in next to Canada last Monday. We don't
Speaker 1: know his name, just like all the people since Renee
Speaker 1: Good in the incident where she accelerated her car at
Speaker 1: a law enforcement agent and ended up getting shot and killed.
Speaker 5: Tragedy.
Speaker 1: I don't I'm a pro life I don't want anybody
Speaker 1: to die, but I do believe that ICE agents have
Speaker 1: a right to protect themselves when somebody's driving a four
Speaker 1: thousand pound vehicle right at them. And that's what happened,
Speaker 1: and he did end up with internal bleeding, but nobody
Speaker 1: seemed to want to report that part.
Speaker 5: But it's a tragedy.
Speaker 1: But just like all the people killed in Chicago, you
Speaker 1: don't know any of their names, that those killed from
Speaker 1: the day the Renee Good incident happened.
Speaker 5: I can name them for you. I have a list
Speaker 5: of their names.
Speaker 1: Where all the people shot shot and killed in Chicago, Illinois,
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and in California and in New York
Speaker 1: and places like that, nobody knows their names. They can't
Speaker 1: weaponize or politicize or blame Trump. And that's why they
Speaker 1: do it. You know, listen to the threats that ICE
Speaker 1: is getting every single day. This was the voicemail sent
Speaker 1: to an ICE agent that they released.
Speaker 8: And fastest pig. You should kill yourself. I hope your
Speaker 8: wife dies. I hope your mom and dad died. I
Speaker 8: hope everything wrong that could go in your life happens.
Speaker 8: I hope you have the most miserable life. I hope
Speaker 8: you get hit by a butt. You are a trader
Speaker 8: to the American people, to the values that made our
Speaker 8: very country. You should kill yourself. You're disgusting. I hate you.
Speaker 8: Everyone hates you. You're a sting murderer, and all of
Speaker 8: your friends of sing murderers and your bosses are a
Speaker 8: bunch of pedophiles.
Speaker 1: Sure yourself, Okay, more peace and love from the radical left.
Speaker 1: Here's mister feng Fang, Eric Swolwell, listen to this. You
Speaker 1: did not support the DH's funding bill when it was
Speaker 1: in the House.
Speaker 3: What changes would be enough or a start for you
Speaker 3: to support funding the agency? No gone Homan gone, Miller, gone,
Speaker 3: masks off, identification out, and law abiding people no longer terrorized.
Speaker 3: That's what the United People ask for. We were all
Speaker 3: on board when the President said he's going to focus
Speaker 3: on the most violent in our communities. Instead, the overwhelming
Speaker 3: majority of people who have been removed from our communities
Speaker 3: are people without criminal histories.
Speaker 1: No, he's wrong about seventy five percent of violent criminals.
Speaker 1: He's wrong. He's dead wrong, he's lying. All right, Let's
Speaker 1: get to our phones. Brian Baltimore in Maryland on the
Speaker 1: Sean Hennerity Show.
Speaker 5: What's up, Brian? How are you glad you called?
Speaker 8: Sir?
Speaker 7: Hey? Thanks? Sean Hey. You alluded to something recently called,
Speaker 7: or at least I call it, a higher standard of
Speaker 7: care whenever we're carrying a firearm, And to me, that's
Speaker 7: an extra sense of responsibility and quite frankly, that burden
Speaker 7: that you take upon yourself to use some extra caution
Speaker 7: whenever you're carrying I own one of the largest shops
Speaker 7: in the state of Maryland, indoor shooting Range and Training Center,
Speaker 7: and we've literally trained tens of thousands of students through
Speaker 7: our facility at Maryland winch Shall Issue recently. So it's
Speaker 7: just been this big influx title wave of people wanting
Speaker 7: to get permits because they've been waiting for them so long.
Speaker 7: And not only do we teach the fundamentals about you know,
Speaker 7: trigger squeeze and side aline and a lot of kind
Speaker 7: of good stuff you have to But one of the
Speaker 7: biggest focuses on in that sixteen hours is de escalation, right,
Speaker 7: It's emotional control. It's how to deal or how to
Speaker 7: present yourself to a police officer or if they come
Speaker 7: over to you, whether it's for an investigators like a
Speaker 7: traffic stop, or whether it's just meeting them on the street.
Speaker 7: You know, how do you handle that. But the other
Speaker 7: thing that we teach it seems to have been a
Speaker 7: failure here is places that you should avoid. You know,
Speaker 7: this gentleman should have probably never taken it there. And
Speaker 7: I understand the whole Second Amendment argument. I'm totally on
Speaker 7: board with that, but there is some common sense. And
Speaker 7: what I've found is, over the years of doing this,
Speaker 7: sometimes it doesn't matter how much training you instill in
Speaker 7: a person, how much practice they do, you know, all
Speaker 7: these things that we beat into their head during these
Speaker 7: training classes and ongoing trainings, is that sometimes they're ideology.
Speaker 7: They're hatred for certain people or certain organizations. In this case,
Speaker 7: ice supersedes any training that they've received, in any common
Speaker 7: sense that they might have had, and it just overtakes
Speaker 7: them emotionally and they sometimes just put themselves in bad
Speaker 7: situations that otherwise normal, responsible thinking people would avoid them.
Speaker 1: Listen, you're a responsible gunshop owner, you're a model owner.
Speaker 1: You talk about training. You know, people have called the
Speaker 1: show and said, uh, Sean, what do you think I
Speaker 1: should get an ar this? And they start, you know, naming,
Speaker 1: you know, firearms that they really don't know a lot about.
Speaker 1: And I have a very big collection of firearms, and
Speaker 1: my answer is always the same, which one do you
Speaker 1: want to get trained in the safe use of? And
Speaker 1: I practice situational self defense every day. I've been doing
Speaker 1: it for fifteen years. It's an eclectic blend of martial
Speaker 1: arts and it's situational street fighting, it's boxing, it's krabmaga, campo,
Speaker 1: Japanese jiu jitsu. You know, we work with stix blades
Speaker 1: firearms all the time. And I can tell you, you know,
Speaker 1: being in the public eye, I've had to deal with
Speaker 1: angry people getting in my grill, confronting me.
Speaker 5: I've been spit at.
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of things happen, and even at
Speaker 1: times when I am carrying.
Speaker 5: A firearm, and not only do I d S.
Speaker 1: I can't really explain it that my training has made
Speaker 1: it such that the angrier they become, the cammer I become.
Speaker 1: It's now instinctive, it's built into my DNA. But that's
Speaker 1: not the average person. Even if they go through a
Speaker 1: really rigorous training course at your facility, that's not fifteen
Speaker 1: years of training every day. And in most law enforcement,
Speaker 1: I haven't trained as much as I have. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, when I once said on the program, people
Speaker 1: made fun of me in close quarter fighting, I would
Speaker 1: rather deal with a firearm than a blade, and people said, ah,
Speaker 1: what an idiot, And I'm like, no, because I practice
Speaker 1: stripping a firearm in every position that it could be
Speaker 1: possibly within my reach. You know, whether it's pointed right
Speaker 1: at my head, whether it's pointed at my back, whether
Speaker 1: it's just pointed right in front of me. I'll take
Speaker 1: my odds of stripping that weapon over somebody that's trained
Speaker 1: in the use of a blade. That it becomes very
Speaker 1: problematic and very difficult. And although I trained for that too,
Speaker 1: But I have said this, and I stand by this,
Speaker 1: and if you think I'm wrong, you tell me that.
Speaker 1: If I'm in a situation and people are very confrontational
Speaker 1: with me, and I know I can defend myself. And
Speaker 1: let's say I know the whole thing's being videotaped, but
Speaker 1: I see a window where I can turn and high
Speaker 1: tail it out of there and get out of that
Speaker 1: situation and on video look like the biggest gutlass coward
Speaker 1: in the world. I would choose that option.
Speaker 5: Am I wrong?
Speaker 7: No, Sean, You're absolutely right. You know what I call that.
Speaker 7: That's the Nike defense. You know, the Nike desfense. You're
Speaker 7: gonna run, turntail and run and guess what, You're gonna
Speaker 7: save yourself one hundred thousand dollars in court costs and
Speaker 7: attorney's fees, not to mention the emotional baggage you're going
Speaker 7: to carry with you the.
Speaker 2: Rest of you.
Speaker 5: I would never want to live with that.
Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I'd rather use my hands if
Speaker 1: I can, rather than and what my skill, rather than
Speaker 1: ever reaching for that weapon. Don't You don't ever pull
Speaker 1: out that weapon unless you're planning to use it. And
Speaker 1: you don't shoot for the leg, You shoot for upper
Speaker 1: body mask.
Speaker 5: Period.
Speaker 1: That's what every training you know, any any certified trainer
Speaker 1: would tell you.
Speaker 5: But exact I don't want that. I don't. I don't
Speaker 5: want to live with that.
Speaker 7: That's exactly right sewn. We shoot to stop the threat
Speaker 7: or to the last thing that's available. Tools too, is
Speaker 7: that's just one tool, and we only use that tool
Speaker 7: when it's absolutely necessary and wearing fear of our life.
Speaker 7: And I agree with you. I would rather face down
Speaker 7: a gun anytime than knife, because a knife you're getting
Speaker 7: cut no matter what.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, do I have.
Speaker 1: The First thing I'm going to do is rip off
Speaker 1: my belt and start doing you know, wide x's and
Speaker 1: try and get that knife offline and strip it as
Speaker 1: quick as I can. But it's not easy to do,
Speaker 1: and especially if somebody, you know, if they're skilled in
Speaker 1: the use of a knife. You know where the areas
Speaker 1: you would target are. One place I would never bring
Speaker 1: a fire firearm is to a protest. If you are armed,
Speaker 1: you don't belong there. You certainly don't belong confronting police
Speaker 1: and getting you know, close to law enforcement, you don't.
Speaker 1: And I'm not putting the blame of what happened here.
Speaker 1: I think I have figured out what has happened, but
Speaker 1: I'm not going to rush the judgment. I think I
Speaker 1: you know, I've looked at every video, I've looked at
Speaker 1: every video, you know, speed it up, slowed down, all
Speaker 1: of it in between, and I think I figured out
Speaker 1: exactly what happened here. I think that when they when
Speaker 1: they stripped that firearm, and again this I want everyone
Speaker 1: to hear me. This is, this is what I think
Speaker 1: at this point. But I'm not rushing to judgment. I
Speaker 1: want all the facts in. I think if the firearm
Speaker 1: got stripped, there is a still picture you can see
Speaker 1: of one of the agents that has that stripped firearm,
Speaker 1: and it looks like that might have been the first shot.
Speaker 5: If that's the case.
Speaker 1: Then it would be a narrative where uh oh, somebody
Speaker 1: hurt a gun and bought that guy shot it. That's
Speaker 1: That's that. That is where I think it's gonna head.
Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna land, but it may not.
Speaker 1: It may I you know, I don't know. I've I've
Speaker 1: been studying it, and I'm the first to tell you
Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, and I'm and but that
Speaker 1: is what where my gut is telling me it's going
Speaker 1: to go now. But I'm gonna wait and see and
Speaker 1: be responsible.
Speaker 7: Sean. I think you're I think you're one too. Something
Speaker 7: I agree with you when that firearm came out. There's
Speaker 7: been some enhanced videos that I don't want to I
Speaker 7: don't want to give them credence at this point either.
Speaker 7: But when that gun came out, those officers are wearing
Speaker 7: some bulky gloves because of the temperature there. You know
Speaker 7: how easy it is for a finger to slip into
Speaker 7: that trigger guard. So I think you're on the right
Speaker 7: track where there was a negligible discharge when that fire
Speaker 7: was stripped.
Speaker 5: I it's where.
Speaker 1: It's my theory, it's my hypothesis, it is not fact.
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear anyway, Brian, thanks for
Speaker 1: what you do. One thing I will say about firearm
Speaker 1: owners and people that are trained in the safe use
Speaker 1: of it. If you're ever you know, at a at
Speaker 1: a range, and maybe you're not as experienced as other
Speaker 1: people there, just ask somebody if they have a few
Speaker 1: minutes to help you. I mean, everybody I know that's
Speaker 1: trained in the safe use of firearms, they will stop
Speaker 1: what they're doing and they'll do anything they can do
Speaker 1: to help make you, you know, a better firearms owner and
Speaker 1: help you in your training and your safety precautions. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen it over and over again. I've done it myself, Brian,
Speaker 1: appreciate it man.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Mike and Utah. Mike, how are you glad you called John?
Speaker 9: Longtime listener. I love your show.
Speaker 5: Thank you for what you do well, thank you for
Speaker 5: being with us.
Speaker 1: And we're just trying to be the truth tellers out here,
Speaker 1: unlike this corrupt media that has been out there. They
Speaker 1: lied about, you know, four years of unfettered, unvetted immigration.
Speaker 1: They you know, they've been demonizing Ice in the most reckless,
Speaker 1: irresponsible way.
Speaker 5: Somebody's got to be a voice or reason.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, and you. I wish there was more people that
Speaker 9: could convince you to run for office, because I think
Speaker 9: you would be.
Speaker 1: That Okay, Mike, you had me up to that point,
Speaker 1: Now you lost me. Why would I ever want to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 9: Well, real quick, just my main point is, with everything
Speaker 9: I've been able to see, and granted it's pretty limited,
Speaker 9: but on that most recent shooting, I think you're onto
Speaker 9: something with that negligent fire However, default does still lie
Speaker 9: with him for one going to a riot with the firearm,
Speaker 9: and for two pulling it out and approaching law enforcement
Speaker 9: in an aggressing manner.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't know. I didn't see any video where
Speaker 1: he held it out. I'm not saying it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: I didn't see that myself, but certainly he had it
Speaker 1: on him, and he had the extra clips with him,
Speaker 1: and he was right in the action, right in the
Speaker 1: grill of these ICE agents, and it was confrontational, and
Speaker 1: when they were trying to arrest him, he was resisting.
Speaker 1: He was fighting, you know, he's trying to get up
Speaker 1: and all of these he was not complying.
Speaker 9: Right, I digress. I appreciate your correction there. I find
Speaker 9: it really hard to believe that there's not a money
Speaker 9: trail leading up to starting this riot.
Speaker 5: Well, we know.
Speaker 1: About the organized efforts and the encrypted apps of one
Speaker 1: thing we need to find out is was this gentleman
Speaker 1: on that you know signal encrypted app, you know group
Speaker 1: text that is getting you know, alerts about where ices
Speaker 1: is moving to what they're doing, and then immediately showing
Speaker 1: up and being belligerent and you know, creating you know
Speaker 1: a lot of chaos.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he is and he went their arm,
Speaker 1: that was a really dumb decision. And I feel, I
Speaker 1: love life. I don't want anyone to lose their life.
Speaker 8: Correct.
Speaker 9: And you hear the agents initially they are hyped up,
Speaker 9: telling him to stop and telling him to get down,
Speaker 9: and then shortly before the are fired, you hear a
Speaker 9: very bone chilling calm in the agent's voice when he.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, it's just all of this is preventable.
Speaker 1: But again, politicians, they've they've whipped everybody's mind into a frenzy,
Speaker 1: and they've demonized and dehumanized and incited people to believe
Speaker 1: that these people are Nazis and Gestapo they're not. They're
Speaker 1: they had to keep people safe and they're having a
Speaker 1: hard time doing their job.