1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: To Sean Hannity Show, toll free, it's eight hundred and 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: nine to four one, Shawn, if you want to be 3 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a part of the program. If it is true, and 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: I have my doubts that Governor Tim Walls tampon, Tim 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: wants to in fact now work in conjunction with ICE 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: and get violent criminals off the streets in the state 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: of Minnesota out of the city of Minneapolis, and Mayor 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Smallfry wants to do the same thing. That that would 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: all be a positive result. If anybody I think is 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: capable of doing the job doing the job right, that 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: would be Tom Homan. But you can't keep going out 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: there saying gestopo, Gestapo, Nazi, Nazi, Nazi and whipping people's 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: minds into a frenzy and expect any other result than 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: what's been happening in Minnesota. You know, just a reminder 15 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: the attacks of Democrats, unrelenting attacks against ICE agents. And meanwhile, 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: we've gone through and we scroll on TV and we 17 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: met on radio all of the violent murderers, rapists, child molesters, 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: h drug dealers, pedophiles and other violent criminals that ICE 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: has already arrested, which is making the people in Minnesota 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: more safe and more secure, which is in restoring law 21 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: and order in spite of, you know, the sanctuary state 22 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: and city policies of these these idiot politicians. They caused 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: all of this chaos. Never mind that they all lied 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: for four years. Know the border's closed, the border secure, 25 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: borders closed, border secure. No twelve million plus unvetted Harris Biden, 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: May Orcissy illegals, known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals, 27 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 1: cartel members, gang members, drug dealers. It's not complicated. Donald 28 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Trump has to clean up this mess if we're ever 29 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: going to restore sanity in this country and get American 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: citizens safe and secure. But here are Democrats. They're unrelenting 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: attacks on ICE. 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: Masked men jumping out of unmarked cars, people disappearing, no 33 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,839 Speaker 2: due process, no oversight, zero accountability happening in the United 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 2: States of America today. 35 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: When I see ICE, I see slave controls. These ICE 36 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 3: agents running around our communities like masked bank robbers, terrorizing women. 37 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: ICE federal agents pulling up terrorizing our communities, hopping out 38 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: of unmarked vans, stealing and yes, kidnapping people. 39 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: An authoritarian government in Washington, DC is dispatching masked agents 40 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: to abduct immigrants from our streets. 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 5: This is just stoppo like behavior. 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 6: There should be no question to what our country would 43 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 6: look like have the Confederacy won. 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 7: The actions of Ice. 45 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 8: They are. 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 4: Unconstitutional, unlawful, They are cruel, they are rogue, They are racists, 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 4: and they are terrorizing communities. They are sowing chaos and 48 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: terrorizing community. 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 6: We're observing gestapo tactics by federal immigration law enforcement in 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 6: Minnesota as well as around the country. You all remember 51 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 6: the name Renee Good, and you say her name, you 52 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 6: say her name. 53 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 9: It does look like a Gestapo operation. 54 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's modern day Escapo is scooping folks up off 55 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: the streets. They're in unmarked vans, wearing masks, being shipped 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: off to foreign torture dungeons. We have got children in 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside. Many 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. 59 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Somebody's going to write that children's story about Minnesota. 60 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: Joining US now. 61 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: Is State Representative of Minnesota, Walter Hudson is with us. 62 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: He testified before Congress the House Oversight Committee about the 63 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: extreme corruption happening in his state under Mayor French Fry 64 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: and Tampon, Tim and congress Woman Omar and the AG 65 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Keith j Ellison. Just today, I'm a few anyway. Representative, 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: great to have you, thank you for being with us. 67 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Sorry what's happening in your state, but thank goodness, a 68 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: lot of really dangerous, bad people have already been captured. 69 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: I want the people of Minnesota safe and secure. I 70 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: want ICE agents to be able to do the job 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 1: that they were hired to do and not be impeded 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: in that process. And all of these incidents are all preventable, 73 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: but this rhetoric is whipping people's minds into a frenzy 74 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: and causing the most volatile environment possible. 75 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 10: Well, Sean, I wish it was just the rhetoric, but 76 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 10: as we seem to be learning, has been reported on 77 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 10: by Fox Digital and others, it's very clear that there's 78 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 10: a widespread, well funded, complicatedly organized effort at active insurrection 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 10: in the state of Minnesota that appears to involve many 80 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 10: Democrat political operatives, including potentially Democrat elected officials in this state. 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 10: And I have wonder if this sudden sense of cooperation 82 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 10: that I tend to agree with your suspicions, I'll believe 83 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 10: it when I see it. When it comes to Tim 84 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 10: Walls might be motivated by the leverage that the FEDS 85 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 10: currently have over Democrats here in Minnesota. 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what the motivation is. I accept 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: you know, what was the motivation of lying to the 88 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: American public for four years? And I said this yesterday 89 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: on this show, I said it on TV last night. 90 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you really want context and you really 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: want to understand why an incident like what happened in 92 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: this latest shooting is possible. Yeah, you're right, because we 93 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: have the signal chat groups of people. Do we know 94 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: if this individual that was shot over the weekend? Do 95 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: we know if he was on that signal chat? Has 96 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: anyone been able to determine that at this point, I've 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: not heard anything. 98 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 10: I don't know that any official investigators have established that 99 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 10: as fact. However, I have been hearing chatter that he 100 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 10: was to that signal chat and that the folks who 101 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 10: were part of it certainly were responsible for designing and 102 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 10: executing their insurrection operation on that day. 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: I've had a pistol carry permit my entire adult life. 104 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: I've had one even in New York City. If you 105 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: can believe it, if you get enough death threats, you 106 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: can get one. I had it when I lived in 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: California in the eighties, and Alabama and Georgia when I 108 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: went back to New York and now in the Free 109 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: State of Florida. 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 8: And with. 111 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: A carry permit comes a massive responsibility, and not the 112 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: least of which is don't resist the rest and get 113 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: into a confrontation with anybody, never mind law enforcement. Don't 114 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: get into confrontations. I can only tell you from my 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: own personal training and experience, and I'm not against the 116 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: fact that he had a gun. 117 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 5: That's not a problem for me. 118 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: I believe in the right to keep in bare arms, 119 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: but also with that right comes a responsibility be trained 120 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: in the safe use of it. You know, you learn 121 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: situational awareness and de escalation and you don't run into 122 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: the middle of a confrontation and all of a sudden 123 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: that weapon comes out and all hell is predictably going 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: to break loose. 125 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 10: Well, and that's especially true here in the state of Minnesota, Sean, 126 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 10: because our laws when it comes to gun usage and 127 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 10: self defense are so backwards that you have what's called 128 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 10: a duty to retreat in this state, meaning that if 129 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 10: somebody's actively trying to attack you, and some judge somewhere 130 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 10: determines that you reasonably could have escaped the situation as 131 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 10: a poised as opposed to deploying your firearm, then you 132 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 10: could end up being the one going to prison in 133 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 10: part of the fact that you were the victim, and 134 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 10: so on that context, it's so utterly ridiculous for people 135 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 10: to sit here and defend a guy going armed with 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 10: multiple clips of ammunition for the purpose of confronting law enforcement. 137 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 10: And you're absolutely right. I've talked to several experts in 138 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 10: firearm training and training for permit to carry and what 139 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 10: have you here in the state, all of whom have said, 140 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 10: this is a textbook example of everything we tell people 141 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 10: not to do when they train them to qualify for 142 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 10: their permit to caureity. 143 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: So, prior to yesterday, in the conversation Tampon Tim had 144 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: with President Trump, he had been reluctant, resistant, uncooperative, would 145 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: not work with ICE, would not as a sanctuary state, 146 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: they would not cooperate, although he said something to the contrary, 147 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: but it's not true because there are apparently apprehended in 148 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: the state right now one three hundred and sixty illegal 149 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: immigrants that are being held for various crimes, and now 150 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he did a woint eighty and 151 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: now he's gonna I guess he says he'll cooperate with 152 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: Ice mayor you know, small fry. I don't think he's 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: going to cooperate with anybody. But you know, I'm this hope, 154 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean if, but these are the people that have 155 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: been pouring gasoline on the fire out there. 156 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, which again leads me to the question of what changed. 157 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 10: And I don't know the exact answer to that question, 158 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 10: but I have to imagine that things have developed to 159 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 10: the point, especially due to all of the incredible sleuthing 160 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 10: that's been done by folks online on platforms like x 161 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 10: and what have you, in combination with professional media and 162 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 10: such as your colleagues. So much evidence is out there now. 163 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 10: It's just been flooding out that this is a coordinated 164 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 10: effort at undermining the supremacy clause of the United States Constitution. 165 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 10: That Trump probably has a leverage where he can do 166 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 10: what Trump does and make pick up the phone and say, listen, 167 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 10: this is what's going to happen to you if you 168 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 10: don't cooperate. And we've got the goods. We've got you 169 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 10: dead to rights and you need to start working with 170 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 10: us or you're not going to like the next step. 171 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 10: I suspect that something like that is what's taking place, 172 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,479 Speaker 10: but of course it's just speculation. 173 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Well, I am privy a little bit to the call. 174 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: It was apparently a cooperative call, and for the first time, 175 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: Walls has said that he's now willing to cooperate with ICE. 176 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: If they would have cooperated from day one instead of 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: going down the Gestapo Nazi route, we wouldn't be in 178 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: this situation. If Democrats didn't allow all these unvetted violent criminals, 179 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: known terrorists, murderers, rapists, other violent criminals and others into 180 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the country, we wouldn't be in this situation. So they 181 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: caused the entire problem. Then they create sanctuary status. You 182 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: know how much money? I mean, I know you're looking 183 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: into some of the corruption issues. I saw an article 184 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: today that the amount of fraud is in the billions 185 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: of dollars. The Trump Education Secretary Linda McMahon says thousands 186 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: of dead people were getting student loans in Minnesota on 187 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: top of empty daycare centers. And you know, the somalis 188 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: an eighty percent autism rate and eighty nine percent I 189 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: read is that the right number of the Somali population 190 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: inside of Minnesota getting some welfare benefit. 191 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 9: Is that true understanding? 192 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 10: And yeah, the US Attorney for the District of Minnesota 193 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 10: said that we're looking at potentially nine billion dollars and 194 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 10: that's just looking at fourteen particular programs, and that's only 195 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 10: looking at like criminal fraud. The point that I tried 196 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 10: to make when I spoke the House oversight a week 197 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 10: or so ago was that we have to expand our 198 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 10: scope beyond just the breaking of the law and actually 199 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 10: look at the structure of the laws here in the 200 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 10: state of Minnesota, which I believe have been constructed specifically 201 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 10: to allow people to take benefits that most folks in 202 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 10: Minnesota assume are a hand up, a temporary help in 203 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 10: order to get people into a better place, turn those 204 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 10: benefits into business, into an industry that only gets hungrier 205 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 10: and hungrier and requires more and more government funding. 206 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: All right, quick, break right back more with Minnesota State Rep. 207 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: Walter Hudson on the other side. Then we'll get to 208 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: your calls coming up A toll free telephone numbers eight 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: hundred nine four one sean as we continue. 210 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 5: We continue now. 211 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: State Representative Minnesota Walter Hudson as with us during your 212 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: time testimony, I noticed that you did focus on the 213 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: thousand plus illegal immigrants currently held in Minnesota prisons in jails. 214 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: The administration counts that number at thirteen hundred and sixty. 215 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: Is that about right? And do you really believe. 216 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: I think this will be the litmus test of whether 217 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: or not Walls means what he says. Is Walls going 218 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: to now hand them over to Ice the way he 219 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: should or is he going to protect them the way 220 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: he's been doing. 221 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 10: It's certainly one of the litmus tests, and will know 222 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 10: if he provides any sort of resistance to that whatsoever, 223 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 10: then we'll know he's not serious about whatever he had 224 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 10: with the President about Yeah. 225 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: By the way, I bet you most people aren't even aware. 226 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: A border patrol agent was shot and killed guarding the 227 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Canadian border last Monday. I didn't even know it until 228 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: I saw it on foxnews dot com. Border patrol agent shootout. 229 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Armed suspects identified forty four year old Customs and Border 230 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Protection source telling Fox News anybody know his name? Anybody 231 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: any protesting, any outrage? It's sort of like all these 232 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: kids on college campuses, you know, f reed Palestine, Gaza, 233 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, attacking Israel. Where are they standing in solidarity 234 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: with the Iranians? You know, up to an estimated thirty 235 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: five thousand slaughter just out there peacefully protesting for freedom. 236 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 5: I don't, I didn't. 237 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't see any protests at Columbia or Brown or 238 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: Havevid or any of these elite institutions, do you. 239 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 10: No, It's definitely selective concern. And that's why when we 240 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 10: have this whole conversation over you know, who's going to 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 10: be compassionate, who's going to be empathetic? My question is 242 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 10: why are we selectively compassionate? Why are we selectively empathetic? 243 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 10: Why do we only seem to care about certain people 244 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 10: in certain situations and others get completely ignored. There's a 245 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 10: lot of redacted stories out there that reflective reality that 246 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 10: folks on the other side of the aisle, the Democrats 247 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 10: are apparently have no interest in, no empathy for, no compassion, 248 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 10: for They're only interested in that which fuels their narrative 249 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 10: and paves their pathway to power. And it's pretty pathetic. 250 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: It really is pathetic. All right, Do you have any 251 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: access to tim Walls. Do you have any access to 252 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: mayor Smallfry? 253 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 10: Not directly. I mean I've seen I've been in the 254 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 10: legislature for three years. I've seen Tim Walls three times, 255 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 10: and it was usually for him to pass out limon 256 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 10: bars on the first day session on the House floor. 257 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 10: He's kind of the absentee governor. He likes to tour 258 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 10: the nation a lot and talk tough. I rarely see him, 259 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 10: if ever, in the corridors of the capital. So no, 260 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 10: no direct contact to answer your question. 261 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: Right, Well, we appreciate what you do, and we really 262 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: do your I guess a rare voice of sanity inside 263 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: of Minnesota right now. And you know what, I want 264 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: the people in your state to be safe and secure. 265 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: I also want the illegal criminals taken out of your state. 266 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: We owe it to people to have law and order 267 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: and safety and security. And you're right, the supremacy clause 268 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: does matter. A state representative Walter Hudson, sir, thank you. 269 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time. 270 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 10: Appreciate you. Thanks. 271 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 5: I don't think you can play this enough. 272 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mentioned just a short time ago, 273 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: and I'm mentioning throughout the program today, how many people 274 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: know that a border agent was shot and killed guarding 275 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: the border in next to Canada last Monday. We don't 276 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: know his name, just like all the people since Renee 277 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Good in the incident where she accelerated her car at 278 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: a law enforcement agent and ended up getting shot and killed. 279 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 5: Tragedy. 280 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't I'm a pro life I don't want anybody 281 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: to die, but I do believe that ICE agents have 282 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: a right to protect themselves when somebody's driving a four 283 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: thousand pound vehicle right at them. And that's what happened, 284 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: and he did end up with internal bleeding, but nobody 285 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: seemed to want to report that part. 286 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 5: But it's a tragedy. 287 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: But just like all the people killed in Chicago, you 288 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know any of their names, that those killed from 289 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: the day the Renee Good incident happened. 290 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: I can name them for you. I have a list 291 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 5: of their names. 292 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: Where all the people shot shot and killed in Chicago, Illinois, 293 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and in California and in New York 294 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: and places like that, nobody knows their names. They can't 295 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: weaponize or politicize or blame Trump. And that's why they 296 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: do it. You know, listen to the threats that ICE 297 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: is getting every single day. This was the voicemail sent 298 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: to an ICE agent that they released. 299 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 8: And fastest pig. You should kill yourself. I hope your 300 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 8: wife dies. I hope your mom and dad died. I 301 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 8: hope everything wrong that could go in your life happens. 302 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 8: I hope you have the most miserable life. I hope 303 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 8: you get hit by a butt. You are a trader 304 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 8: to the American people, to the values that made our 305 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 8: very country. You should kill yourself. You're disgusting. I hate you. 306 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 8: Everyone hates you. You're a sting murderer, and all of 307 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 8: your friends of sing murderers and your bosses are a 308 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 8: bunch of pedophiles. 309 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Sure yourself, Okay, more peace and love from the radical left. 310 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: Here's mister feng Fang, Eric Swolwell, listen to this. You 311 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: did not support the DH's funding bill when it was 312 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: in the House. 313 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: What changes would be enough or a start for you 314 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 3: to support funding the agency? No gone Homan gone, Miller, gone, 315 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: masks off, identification out, and law abiding people no longer terrorized. 316 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: That's what the United People ask for. We were all 317 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: on board when the President said he's going to focus 318 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: on the most violent in our communities. Instead, the overwhelming 319 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: majority of people who have been removed from our communities 320 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 3: are people without criminal histories. 321 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: No, he's wrong about seventy five percent of violent criminals. 322 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: He's wrong. He's dead wrong, he's lying. All right, Let's 323 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: get to our phones. Brian Baltimore in Maryland on the 324 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Sean Hennerity Show. 325 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 5: What's up, Brian? How are you glad you called? 326 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 8: Sir? 327 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 7: Hey? Thanks? Sean Hey. You alluded to something recently called, 328 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 7: or at least I call it, a higher standard of 329 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 7: care whenever we're carrying a firearm, And to me, that's 330 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 7: an extra sense of responsibility and quite frankly, that burden 331 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 7: that you take upon yourself to use some extra caution 332 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 7: whenever you're carrying I own one of the largest shops 333 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 7: in the state of Maryland, indoor shooting Range and Training Center, 334 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 7: and we've literally trained tens of thousands of students through 335 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 7: our facility at Maryland winch Shall Issue recently. So it's 336 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 7: just been this big influx title wave of people wanting 337 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 7: to get permits because they've been waiting for them so long. 338 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 7: And not only do we teach the fundamentals about you know, 339 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 7: trigger squeeze and side aline and a lot of kind 340 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: of good stuff you have to But one of the 341 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 7: biggest focuses on in that sixteen hours is de escalation, right, 342 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 7: It's emotional control. It's how to deal or how to 343 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 7: present yourself to a police officer or if they come 344 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 7: over to you, whether it's for an investigators like a 345 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 7: traffic stop, or whether it's just meeting them on the street. 346 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 7: You know, how do you handle that. But the other 347 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 7: thing that we teach it seems to have been a 348 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 7: failure here is places that you should avoid. You know, 349 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 7: this gentleman should have probably never taken it there. And 350 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 7: I understand the whole Second Amendment argument. I'm totally on 351 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 7: board with that, but there is some common sense. And 352 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 7: what I've found is, over the years of doing this, 353 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 7: sometimes it doesn't matter how much training you instill in 354 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 7: a person, how much practice they do, you know, all 355 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 7: these things that we beat into their head during these 356 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 7: training classes and ongoing trainings, is that sometimes they're ideology. 357 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 7: They're hatred for certain people or certain organizations. In this case, 358 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 7: ice supersedes any training that they've received, in any common 359 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 7: sense that they might have had, and it just overtakes 360 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 7: them emotionally and they sometimes just put themselves in bad 361 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 7: situations that otherwise normal, responsible thinking people would avoid them. 362 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Listen, you're a responsible gunshop owner, you're a model owner. 363 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: You talk about training. You know, people have called the 364 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: show and said, uh, Sean, what do you think I 365 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: should get an ar this? And they start, you know, naming, 366 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, firearms that they really don't know a lot about. 367 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: And I have a very big collection of firearms, and 368 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: my answer is always the same, which one do you 369 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: want to get trained in the safe use of? And 370 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: I practice situational self defense every day. I've been doing 371 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: it for fifteen years. It's an eclectic blend of martial 372 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: arts and it's situational street fighting, it's boxing, it's krabmaga, campo, 373 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: Japanese jiu jitsu. You know, we work with stix blades 374 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: firearms all the time. And I can tell you, you know, 375 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: being in the public eye, I've had to deal with 376 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: angry people getting in my grill, confronting me. 377 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: I've been spit at. 378 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of things happen, and even at 379 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: times when I am carrying. 380 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 5: A firearm, and not only do I d S. 381 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: I can't really explain it that my training has made 382 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: it such that the angrier they become, the cammer I become. 383 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: It's now instinctive, it's built into my DNA. But that's 384 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: not the average person. Even if they go through a 385 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: really rigorous training course at your facility, that's not fifteen 386 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: years of training every day. And in most law enforcement, 387 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: I haven't trained as much as I have. I mean, 388 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, when I once said on the program, people 389 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: made fun of me in close quarter fighting, I would 390 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: rather deal with a firearm than a blade, and people said, ah, 391 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: what an idiot, And I'm like, no, because I practice 392 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: stripping a firearm in every position that it could be 393 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 1: possibly within my reach. You know, whether it's pointed right 394 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: at my head, whether it's pointed at my back, whether 395 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: it's just pointed right in front of me. I'll take 396 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: my odds of stripping that weapon over somebody that's trained 397 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: in the use of a blade. That it becomes very 398 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: problematic and very difficult. And although I trained for that too, 399 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: But I have said this, and I stand by this, 400 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: and if you think I'm wrong, you tell me that. 401 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: If I'm in a situation and people are very confrontational 402 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: with me, and I know I can defend myself. And 403 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: let's say I know the whole thing's being videotaped, but 404 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: I see a window where I can turn and high 405 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: tail it out of there and get out of that 406 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 1: situation and on video look like the biggest gutlass coward 407 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: in the world. I would choose that option. 408 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 5: Am I wrong? 409 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 7: No, Sean, You're absolutely right. You know what I call that. 410 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 7: That's the Nike defense. You know, the Nike desfense. You're 411 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 7: gonna run, turntail and run and guess what, You're gonna 412 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 7: save yourself one hundred thousand dollars in court costs and 413 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 7: attorney's fees, not to mention the emotional baggage you're going 414 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 7: to carry with you the. 415 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Rest of you. 416 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 5: I would never want to live with that. 417 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, I'd rather use my hands if 418 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: I can, rather than and what my skill, rather than 419 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: ever reaching for that weapon. Don't You don't ever pull 420 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: out that weapon unless you're planning to use it. And 421 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: you don't shoot for the leg, You shoot for upper 422 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: body mask. 423 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 5: Period. 424 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: That's what every training you know, any any certified trainer 425 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: would tell you. 426 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: But exact I don't want that. I don't. I don't 427 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 5: want to live with that. 428 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 7: That's exactly right sewn. We shoot to stop the threat 429 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 7: or to the last thing that's available. Tools too, is 430 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 7: that's just one tool, and we only use that tool 431 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 7: when it's absolutely necessary and wearing fear of our life. 432 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 7: And I agree with you. I would rather face down 433 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 7: a gun anytime than knife, because a knife you're getting 434 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 7: cut no matter what. 435 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, listen, do I have. 436 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: The First thing I'm going to do is rip off 437 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: my belt and start doing you know, wide x's and 438 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: try and get that knife offline and strip it as 439 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: quick as I can. But it's not easy to do, 440 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: and especially if somebody, you know, if they're skilled in 441 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: the use of a knife. You know where the areas 442 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: you would target are. One place I would never bring 443 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: a fire firearm is to a protest. If you are armed, 444 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: you don't belong there. You certainly don't belong confronting police 445 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: and getting you know, close to law enforcement, you don't. 446 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: And I'm not putting the blame of what happened here. 447 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: I think I have figured out what has happened, but 448 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm not going to rush the judgment. I think I 449 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: you know, I've looked at every video, I've looked at 450 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: every video, you know, speed it up, slowed down, all 451 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: of it in between, and I think I figured out 452 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: exactly what happened here. I think that when they when 453 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: they stripped that firearm, and again this I want everyone 454 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: to hear me. This is, this is what I think 455 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: at this point. But I'm not rushing to judgment. I 456 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: want all the facts in. I think if the firearm 457 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: got stripped, there is a still picture you can see 458 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: of one of the agents that has that stripped firearm, 459 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: and it looks like that might have been the first shot. 460 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 5: If that's the case. 461 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Then it would be a narrative where uh oh, somebody 462 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: hurt a gun and bought that guy shot it. That's 463 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: That's that. That is where I think it's gonna head. 464 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna land, but it may not. 465 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: It may I you know, I don't know. I've I've 466 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 1: been studying it, and I'm the first to tell you 467 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure, and I'm and but that 468 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: is what where my gut is telling me it's going 469 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: to go now. But I'm gonna wait and see and 470 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: be responsible. 471 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 7: Sean. I think you're I think you're one too. Something 472 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 7: I agree with you when that firearm came out. There's 473 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 7: been some enhanced videos that I don't want to I 474 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 7: don't want to give them credence at this point either. 475 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 7: But when that gun came out, those officers are wearing 476 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 7: some bulky gloves because of the temperature there. You know 477 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 7: how easy it is for a finger to slip into 478 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 7: that trigger guard. So I think you're on the right 479 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 7: track where there was a negligible discharge when that fire 480 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 7: was stripped. 481 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 5: I it's where. 482 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: It's my theory, it's my hypothesis, it is not fact. 483 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: I want to be very clear anyway, Brian, thanks for 484 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: what you do. One thing I will say about firearm 485 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: owners and people that are trained in the safe use 486 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: of it. If you're ever you know, at a at 487 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: a range, and maybe you're not as experienced as other 488 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: people there, just ask somebody if they have a few 489 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: minutes to help you. I mean, everybody I know that's 490 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: trained in the safe use of firearms, they will stop 491 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: what they're doing and they'll do anything they can do 492 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: to help make you, you know, a better firearms owner and 493 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: help you in your training and your safety precautions. I mean, 494 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: I've seen it over and over again. I've done it myself, Brian, 495 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: appreciate it man. 496 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 5: Thank you. 497 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Eight hundred nine one Sewn. If you want to be 498 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: a part of the program, quick break right back. We'll 499 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: get right back to the phones. Eight hundred and nine 500 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: f one, Seawan our number if you want to be 501 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: a part of the program. As we continue, the final 502 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: hour of the Sean Hannity Show is up next. Hang 503 00:26:53,720 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: on for Seawan's conservative solutions. All right, let's get back 504 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: to our busy phones. Eight hundred and nine four one Sean. 505 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: If you want to join us, let's say hi to 506 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: Mike and Utah. Mike, how are you glad you called John? 507 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 9: Longtime listener. I love your show. 508 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: Thank you for what you do well, thank you for 509 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 5: being with us. 510 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: And we're just trying to be the truth tellers out here, 511 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: unlike this corrupt media that has been out there. They 512 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: lied about, you know, four years of unfettered, unvetted immigration. 513 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: They you know, they've been demonizing Ice in the most reckless, 514 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: irresponsible way. 515 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 5: Somebody's got to be a voice or reason. 516 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 9: Absolutely, and you. I wish there was more people that 517 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 9: could convince you to run for office, because I think 518 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 9: you would be. 519 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: That Okay, Mike, you had me up to that point, 520 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: Now you lost me. Why would I ever want to 521 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: do that? 522 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 9: Well, real quick, just my main point is, with everything 523 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 9: I've been able to see, and granted it's pretty limited, 524 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 9: but on that most recent shooting, I think you're onto 525 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 9: something with that negligent fire However, default does still lie 526 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 9: with him for one going to a riot with the firearm, 527 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 9: and for two pulling it out and approaching law enforcement 528 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 9: in an aggressing manner. 529 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: Now, I don't know. I didn't see any video where 530 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: he held it out. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. 531 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: I didn't see that myself, but certainly he had it 532 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: on him, and he had the extra clips with him, 533 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: and he was right in the action, right in the 534 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: grill of these ICE agents, and it was confrontational, and 535 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: when they were trying to arrest him, he was resisting. 536 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: He was fighting, you know, he's trying to get up 537 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: and all of these he was not complying. 538 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 9: Right, I digress. I appreciate your correction there. I find 539 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 9: it really hard to believe that there's not a money 540 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 9: trail leading up to starting this riot. 541 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 5: Well, we know. 542 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: About the organized efforts and the encrypted apps of one 543 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: thing we need to find out is was this gentleman 544 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: on that you know signal encrypted app, you know group 545 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: text that is getting you know, alerts about where ices 546 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: is moving to what they're doing, and then immediately showing 547 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: up and being belligerent and you know, creating you know 548 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: a lot of chaos. 549 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. 550 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean, if he is and he went their arm, 551 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: that was a really dumb decision. And I feel, I 552 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: love life. I don't want anyone to lose their life. 553 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 8: Correct. 554 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 9: And you hear the agents initially they are hyped up, 555 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 9: telling him to stop and telling him to get down, 556 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 9: and then shortly before the are fired, you hear a 557 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 9: very bone chilling calm in the agent's voice when he. 558 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 5: Really yeah, it's just all of this is preventable. 559 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: But again, politicians, they've they've whipped everybody's mind into a frenzy, 560 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: and they've demonized and dehumanized and incited people to believe 561 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: that these people are Nazis and Gestapo they're not. They're 562 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: they had to keep people safe and they're having a 563 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: hard time doing their job.