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Speaker 1: Walk up to NFL Daily presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook,

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Speaker 1: where it's feeling like week eighteen and Week sixteen. I'm

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with

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Speaker 1: my friends Patrick, Claybond, and Steve Weiss.

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Speaker 2: Back from the road. Get to have you back, buddy,

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Speaker 2: Good to be back, man.

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Speaker 3: You know we got we had some interesting games.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at so many spreads like huh wait what Yeah?

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Speaker 1: When I say that, it just it's got a December

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Speaker 1: vibe this slate. It's a lot of one good team

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Speaker 1: playing one bad team, and the one bad team just

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Speaker 1: made a quarterback change that just makes it feel like

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Speaker 1: where they're just kind of running out the string a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 2: But we have three weeks left. We don't have one

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Speaker 2: week left.

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Speaker 4: It's the back end preseason right now. Okay, we got

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Speaker 4: some guys coming back. Glad to have Steve back, because

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Speaker 4: without you we suffered. How oh no, our survivor has

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Speaker 4: knowed you guys. Would you guys take.

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Speaker 2: But put them use gun?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we we got a little over our skis.

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Speaker 2: We got a little confident over convident.

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Speaker 1: We took a team that not only have we not

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Speaker 1: taken in survivor all year that Patrick and I actually

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Speaker 1: haven't picked to win a single game all year, thinking

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Speaker 1: we were just hot for reason the Carolina Panthers, and

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Speaker 1: they did.

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Speaker 3: Whoa of Chris.

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Speaker 1: I apologize to Patrick, who wanted to go Falcons, and

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Speaker 1: I said, I am not taking this Kirk Cousins team

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Kirk did not look great, but that would have kept

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Speaker 1: us going. So I apologize.

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Speaker 4: All right, we lost. We lost as a team, and

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Speaker 4: we didn't have exactly. Dan Campbell says, you know that

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Speaker 4: he's not buying the whole injury thing.

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Speaker 3: I believe it.

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Speaker 4: When you don't have one of your pieces and you.

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Speaker 2: Only have three of them, we needed you, Steve.

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Speaker 4: That's all right, you know we made it. We made

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Speaker 4: it this far without mushrooms growing underneath the pile.

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Speaker 2: You know what. And I shouldn't. I should have said,

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Speaker 2: like it's all one bad team, one good team.

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Speaker 1: Because the early part of the slate, the Saturday like

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Speaker 1: teams that are playing on Christmas, but now they're just

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Speaker 1: playing on Saturday before Christmas like, those are pretty spicy.

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Speaker 3: Real spy.

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Speaker 5: We're doing the games chronologically this week, so we will

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Speaker 5: be starting with the Saturday game that a lot of

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Speaker 5: eyeballs are on the Houston Texans at the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: who are favored by three. We've seen their quarterback hop

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Speaker 5: up and down and win Super Bowls, hop off the

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Speaker 5: field on one leg, backup, quarterbacks get fourth downs that

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Speaker 5: can they keep it going over under forty one and

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Speaker 5: a half. It's no Eagle the baby Bird. Todd Blackliche

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Speaker 5: and Catherine Tappan on the call, Greg where we've seen

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Speaker 5: this Texans defense be great. Can the Texans offense do

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Speaker 5: enough to knock off the Chiefs?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So that's an NBC production on a Saturday afternoon that

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Speaker 1: is interesting to me. This is all new territory for

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Speaker 1: Chiefs winning a game they need to win with Carson

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Speaker 1: the injury report and he's moving around back there, talking

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Speaker 2: We don't need to just guess the whole time. But

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Speaker 2: what do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean my feeling is this.

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Speaker 4: First off, if you watch the Quarterback series on Netflix,

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Speaker 4: you know he does a lot of his training outside

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Speaker 4: who is taking care of his ankles, and where Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes sprains his ankles like every other week, and this

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Speaker 4: is his non injured ankle. By the way, this is clever.

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Speaker 4: He hurt his right ankle, but the camera showed them

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Speaker 4: taping up the left ankle. So this is clever deception

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Speaker 4: by Patrick right here. But I do think he plays.

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Speaker 4: But my thing is whether he's healthy or not. I

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: I was at the Chiefs Browns game last week and

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Speaker 4: their offense, Chiefs offense that can't protect. They had to

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Speaker 4: just the fact that his overall protection, Patrick is not

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns defensive front is really good, right, So

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Speaker 4: they were getting pressure on him. He was stepping up.

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Speaker 4: The Browns wild let him step up, and we know

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Speaker 4: the Tech has got guys who can do that. Patrick,

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Speaker 4: when he had receivers opened deep downfield was overshooting him.

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Speaker 4: Something just did not look right. And this is why

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Speaker 4: I like Houston in this game. I think they feel

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gonna be a defense that bothers people. And

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Speaker 5: Jawan Taylor has been over there the whole time. They've

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Speaker 5: made the changes over on the other side. But now

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Speaker 5: it's Daniel Hunter who's going to be matched up against

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Speaker 5: the Jawan Taylor for the majority of this game. And

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Speaker 5: whether with Mahomes and the ankle, whether it's like Mike

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Speaker 5: mancias Lebron's trainer or the guy that was settled to

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Speaker 5: Tom Brady for such a long time. Oh yeah, the

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Speaker 5: secret to longevity isn't the trainers. It's Patrick Mahomes, it's

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Speaker 5: Tom Brady, it's Lebron.

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Speaker 1: J What about that dude that once spoke to us

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Speaker 3: Both of them. Yeah, I know, Tim.

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Speaker 4: Turns out the real key to those scenarios were Kobe,

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Speaker 4: Bean Bryant, Michael Jeffrey Jordan.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the trainer.

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Speaker 5: Stuff draws me nuts because we have Patrick doing all

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Speaker 5: these workouts and it's like, oh, he's on a bullsup ball. Now,

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Speaker 5: if you go out there, your ankle will be pliable

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Speaker 5: like his. No, that's him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know, man, some of that stuff's a

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Speaker 2: little different.

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Speaker 1: See, if he was a believer, Patrick's a skeptic yells.

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Speaker 5: Everybody would just be hopping off the field one play

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Speaker 3: Dude is different.

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Speaker 1: He is different, but he's looking as mortal as I've

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Speaker 1: the worst Patrick Mahomes games of all time. I play, well,

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Speaker 1: that's on the short list of just the worst Chiefs

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Speaker 1: for play. They had fifteen drives in that game, which

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Speaker 1: is a crazy amount of drives.

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Speaker 3: That's six takeaways.

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Speaker 1: You know how many drives included more than two first

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Speaker 1: downs one fifth and that was the game. To me,

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Speaker 1: that was the most concerning of all the ones that

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Speaker 1: we've seen. Not that they can't have better weeks and

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Speaker 1: alarm bell should be off. And now you're going to

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Speaker 3: The second level.

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Speaker 1: And I know, yeah they probably they're not going to

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Speaker 2: In total, they had a good game last week.

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Speaker 3: Defensive players no one talks about.

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Speaker 1: They are now actually up to number one on the

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Speaker 2: That's according to Dvowa.

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking while watching the Chiefs Browns this morning, Man,

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Speaker 1: of the Browns who've given up a lot of big plays,

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Speaker 1: crazy that we got Texans Chiefs on NBC and these

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Speaker 1: two great quarterbacks potentially, and I'm I'm taking the under

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Speaker 1: whatever that is. This thing is gonna be thirteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: Neither of these teams are gonna score. I have no

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Speaker 1: because I just I'm not gonna They're just gonna win

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Speaker 5: I mean, cumulatively, they do have a better offense than

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Speaker 5: the Texans, but it's by one tenth of a point.

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Speaker 5: They scored twenty three point five points a game. The

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Speaker 5: And it's just in the way that the Texans have

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Speaker 5: it feels more reliable, Like they scored that twenty first

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Speaker 3: Right, they don't sniff the end zone or close goal again.

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Speaker 5: And so I just I take the Texans in this game,

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Speaker 5: not just because of the avalanche of everything and Patrick's ankle.

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Speaker 5: It's just one team I believe can consistently execute something

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Speaker 3: I don't, and the other deep I don't.

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Speaker 1: I actually think the Texans are in a worse situation offensively,

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Speaker 1: their old concepts like last year. It was less shotguns

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Speaker 1: maybe they're back. Rest of the game, they stunk. They

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Speaker 1: were worse than the Chiefs offense last week. They had

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Speaker 3: Looking comfortable anything under pressure.

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Speaker 1: She made a couple really nice second reaction plays to

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Speaker 1: and he had a couple of magical plays underheat. But

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Speaker 1: they've been bad all season too on offense. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I'm saying forty one is way too high, way

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Speaker 2: I don't know who's going to.

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Speaker 1: Win this game, but I feel amazing that it's going

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Speaker 4: I like Houston, and part of it is also, you know,

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Speaker 2: Back out there. I trust them. They made it.

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Speaker 2: Because I got to.

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Speaker 1: There too, but they always just do these little moves

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Speaker 4: I think in the AFC North Hard Knocks, you know,

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Speaker 1: No, No, they do a great job kind of elimitting

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Speaker 3: It's a great strategy, you know. TJ. Watt looked. Let's

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Speaker 3: not forget they got Preston Smith there. They made a

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Speaker 4: This is there's some subtle trades and things like this

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Speaker 4: But strategically what they've done, it has worked. And so

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Speaker 3: They got faster on defense.

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Speaker 4: Even though Trenton Simpson could run, he was confused some

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Speaker 4: that's tough for anybody, Brian or Lacker type of thing

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Speaker 3: You get faster on the back end.

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Speaker 3: But they're faster.

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Speaker 4: They needed to improve that speed because teams were taking

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Speaker 1: That's a great point. And on offense did their number

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Speaker 1: But what they did was they got a little heavier.

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Speaker 2: So they really do.

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Speaker 1: They really do improve late in the season, and I

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Speaker 2: I think they cover the six too. Wow, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: I don't we're not allowed to do.

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Speaker 4: You just said the guards aren't play well. Cam Heyward's

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Speaker 1: I just believe if there's one team that has by

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Speaker 4: If the Ravens win, though, I mean, that shakes up

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Speaker 5: We want to talk about those AFC contenders that are

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Speaker 5: a little nd season tournament. Shout out to the Cup

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Speaker 5: champions Chiefs, Steelers and Ravens Texans Christmas Day on Netflix.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to our next game.

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Speaker 1: Actually, if you're watching on YouTube here, Patrick, I just

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Speaker 2: Drew Brees is on there.

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Speaker 1: I think he's doing the international broadcast with Hanson on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: So I very cool that you're going to be on.

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Speaker 2: The family? Is she going down there? You gotta celebrate?

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Speaker 3: My wife will not be going down there.

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Speaker 4: All of our kids will be home, so sorry, there'll

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Speaker 3: It's all good. You know.

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Speaker 4: I've covered the NBA. I've had to work Christmas days

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna do like a fake Christmas like

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Speaker 4: Nothing take fake. There's nothing fake about this, dude, Greg,

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Speaker 4: I'm all one hundred. If you're doing it, it's not fake.

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Speaker 4: It's legitimate.

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Speaker 5: Who the day doesn't have to be the day people

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Speaker 5: not Kirk Cousins birthday at all, Nora. Was it the

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Speaker 5: So we're gonna get Drew Locke against Michael PENNOCKX junior

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Speaker 3: Greg the over under forty two.

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Speaker 4: It's the Falcons with their quarterback making us first step

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Speaker 5: You called it after the last game for Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 1: to be competitive than they would have been with Tommy DeVito.

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Speaker 2: And eight and a half is crazy.

445
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Speaker 3: I mean it went down. It went down after the

446
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Speaker 3: quarterback change. It was ten.

447
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, Yeah, why Pennox. I don't know

448
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 1: X improves him. So let's just talk Penex this whole time,

449
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Speaker 1: because it's a fascinating that they did make the decision.

450
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Speaker 1: I thought the way Cousins played kind of left them

451
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Speaker 1: almost no choice. They owed it to the rest of

452
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Speaker 1: the team. They still have an uphill battle to make

453
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But you can do two things here. You

454
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Speaker 1: can get a little peak at Penix and help his development,

455
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Speaker 1: and I think he gives you a better chance to

456
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Speaker 1: win games because Cousins was playing that poorly. Yeah, what

457
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Speaker 1: do you what do you think it means for Cousins' future?

458
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Speaker 1: Let's just start there. It's hard to imagine him playing

459
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Speaker 1: for the Falcons ever again, unless Penix gets hurt in

460
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Speaker 1: the next three weeks.

461
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Speaker 4: Well, I mean he's got no trade clause, right, So

462
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Speaker 4: we're looking at the Russell Wilson situation all over again.

463
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Speaker 4: Will they move him and pay pay pay for his

464
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Speaker 4: salary for someone else that could have but remember they

465
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Speaker 4: ate what was the number for Matt Ryan. Remember they

466
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Speaker 4: ate that type of cap space to move Matt Ryan.

467
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Speaker 4: So the Falcus front office is not afraid to make

468
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Speaker 4: a move.

469
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Speaker 2: Like this man. But they just did that.

470
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Speaker 3: They just did it.

471
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Speaker 4: But they they've signed their younger players to long term deals.

472
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Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're pretty well situated cap wise, and

473
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Speaker 4: that number is going to be there anyway. And they've

474
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Speaker 4: got his backup on a rookie deal. But I think

475
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Speaker 4: for Cousins, they'll probably be some teams. I think he'll

476
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Speaker 4: waive it. What's interesting to note about the scenario he

477
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Speaker 4: could have done this with Minnesota. They're going to draft

478
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Speaker 4: a quarterback. He wasn't really happy about that thing. Well,

479
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 4: he wasn't really happy about this, So I think you

480
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 4: realized that Kirk might not be too cool being a

481
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Speaker 4: backup to Michael Pennick. So I think he will be

482
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Speaker 4: somewhere next year. It'll be interesting to see if he's

483
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Speaker 4: a starter. I think he could be kind of pick

484
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Speaker 4: up guy after all the other pieces you have been drafted.

485
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Speaker 1: Why, I mean, I guess I'm going to convince yourself

486
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Speaker 1: that maybe he'd be healthier a year, you know, more

487
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Speaker 1: removed easily surgery, but he's also older and thirty seven.

488
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like, would you take him over Daniel Jones?

489
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Speaker 4: I mean that that's kind of where, right, I mean,

490
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Speaker 4: that's kind of where I think some of that conversation

491
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Speaker 4: could go. I mean a lot of people would. A

492
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Speaker 4: lot of people wouldn't. You're sitting next to one. I

493
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Speaker 4: would gladly take Kirk.

494
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Speaker 5: The people are doing the comparison right because Aaron is

495
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Speaker 5: forty one, correct, and Kirk Cousins is thirty six, And

496
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 5: it feels like simple math. Aaron Rodgers' Achilles injury happened

497
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Speaker 5: three months before Kirk Cousins did. Right, Kirk Cousins, it's

498
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Speaker 5: very difficult, Like we could talk like the state of health.

499
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Speaker 5: It's very difficult to become healthier playing in the National

500
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Speaker 5: Football League. Sure, And so I really think with more

501
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Speaker 5: time removed, Kirk Cousins like long term viability. I mean,

502
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Speaker 5: in the next three or four years, I think at

503
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Speaker 5: a certain point he will get closer to being the

504
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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins that we know.

505
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Speaker 4: This version is still clearly dealing with something. What's interesting.

506
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Speaker 4: Patrick moved what's interesting though, when people say that is

507
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Speaker 4: six weeks ago we were talking about that Kirk.

508
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Speaker 2: He was Kirk co Chains. We were a little bit

509
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Speaker 2: on this show.

510
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Speaker 1: We were saying where we're so impressed that he was

511
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Speaker 1: doing it despite the limitation.

512
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Speaker 4: I remember, nothing got worse, And I think Patrick brought

513
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Speaker 4: up a stat like he was only move head the

514
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 4: least amount of movement like one and a half yards

515
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Speaker 4: in the pocket. So that part was there, But you

516
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 4: saw there was some stuff. He was stepping into his throws.

517
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Speaker 4: I don't know if there was a lack of confidence,

518
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: but he's stilling wiffle balls out there. I mean those

519
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 4: balls pop out of his hand and they die after

520
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 4: five yards. They were having to throw the ball between

521
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Speaker 4: the numbers because he couldn't get it outside. Teams knew

522
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Speaker 4: that that was leading to all the interceptions. That's why

523
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Speaker 4: they had to make a move. But you know, I

524
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Speaker 4: think I think Patrick, you know, it's an interesting point

525
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Speaker 4: because I do think he will get healthier.

526
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Speaker 3: Does he want to? I mean, does he want to?

527
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Speaker 3: Does he want to?

528
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Speaker 4: I bet he will so well, the money's gonna be there,

529
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's got a significant paycheck coming.

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Speaker 1: I think he will too, so Michael Silver, our old coworker,

531
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Speaker 1: I saw him talking about that all all his old coaches,

532
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Speaker 1: they are fascinated by him still and that there will

533
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Speaker 1: be a market for him.

534
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Speaker 2: And I had my doubts, but not now.

535
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Speaker 1: You're you're making the case Patrick that there's a there's

536
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Speaker 1: always a market for a quarterback. But I sent a

537
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Speaker 1: couple of texts yesterday about this when it happened, and

538
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Speaker 1: I thought, oh, maybe Kirk actually, like, would Kirk ever

539
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Speaker 1: actually be okay being the backup to Pennix? It's not

540
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Speaker 1: that crazy, like if you've already got him under contract,

541
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Speaker 1: you have a good number two.

542
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Speaker 2: And they were like, are you high.

543
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Speaker 1: They're like, they thought, there's no way he is not

544
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Speaker 1: gonna be happy. He is, you know, they were surmising,

545
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Speaker 1: but they just did not think he would be okay

546
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Speaker 1: with that scenario.

547
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Speaker 2: And that is essentially what you're saying too.

548
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Speaker 5: We're on the verge of watching Sam Darnold and Baker

549
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Speaker 5: Mayfield after playing on that woeful Carolina Panthers team start

550
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Speaker 5: playoff games, yeah, in which they are teams of fan

551
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Speaker 5: bases believe that they give them the best chance to win.

552
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Speaker 5: We saw Peyton Manning come back from that neck injury

553
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Speaker 5: where there's like zu Bruder film of him throwing and training,

554
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Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, the whole league's like, all right,

555
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Speaker 5: we're back in, We're back in. I just don't think

556
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's that difficult to believe either Kirk

557
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Speaker 5: Cousins can be significantly better in the one.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're presenting that side of the argument, even

559
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Speaker 1: though I am just even though I don't see it.

560
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Speaker 1: I think it's just closer to Matt Ryan in Indianapolis

561
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Speaker 1: that when you see something like that, and it was

562
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Speaker 1: why we felt confident, why I felt confident on the show,

563
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Speaker 1: like they are going to bench him.

564
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Speaker 2: I don't care about the money, like when.

565
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Speaker 1: You see that they're not coming back from that, they're

566
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Speaker 1: just I think it was more of a like whatever

567
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Speaker 1: he needed because he was always a confident player, He'll

568
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Speaker 1: always be willing to rip the ball.

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Speaker 2: He had totally lost it this year.

570
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you get that confidence back, but that was

571
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Speaker 1: as important to me as as what he lost in

572
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Speaker 1: terms of his movement. Let's give it a little up

573
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Speaker 1: to Pennix, though, what do we think, what do we

574
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Speaker 1: think he's going to look like the next couple of weeks.

575
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Speaker 1: He's a fascinating prospect. And uh, I'm really glad they

576
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Speaker 1: drafted him.

577
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Speaker 3: For Faculo smart for drafting.

578
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Speaker 1: I think they were smart at the time because you

579
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Speaker 1: always got to keep I think, invest as much as

580
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Speaker 1: you possibly can in quarterback until you're sure you got one.

581
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Speaker 2: And they couldn't have been sure they got one with

582
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Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 4: Well, they paid Kirk Cousin one hundred and hundred million dollars.

584
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Speaker 4: Now that was the issue. It's not this, it's not

585
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Speaker 4: them drafting Pendix. It was signed drafting him after signing.

586
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Speaker 2: Kirk, I get it, which was bad process.

587
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Speaker 1: I have heard speculation, I'm wondering what you think, Steve

588
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: is an insider, that there's a chance, once the Falcons

589
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Speaker 1: got Kirk in the building that they were a little

590
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Speaker 1: more skeptical of where he was at physically, and that

591
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Speaker 1: impacted that.

592
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Speaker 2: You really couldn't have had as much.

593
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Speaker 1: Knowledge of where he was at physically before the trade.

594
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Speaker 4: And I mean that might be to mean, I think

595
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Speaker 4: that might be hindsight, because remember when they did this,

596
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Speaker 4: Kirk's our guy.

597
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Speaker 3: Kirk's our guy.

598
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Speaker 4: They draft Penis, he's our guy. Yeah, So if they

599
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Speaker 4: had any questions about it. Physically, they sure weren't tipping

600
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Speaker 4: their hand. Plus, Michael Penix has not begetting first team reps. True,

601
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Speaker 4: he has not been getting first team reps. When you

602
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 4: watch an NFL practice, your starter gets ninety eight percent

603
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Speaker 4: of the reps. So they're going to have to un afford. Like,

604
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Speaker 4: I think he's going to know the playbook. It's just

605
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: the operation of things. And this is where a guy's

606
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: playing five years in college is going to help him.

607
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 4: He's going to understand cover. She's gonna understand how the

608
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 4: game flow is supposed to go. So I think that's

609
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 4: gonna help. And they're gonna be able to throw the

610
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: ball outside of the numbers. He can rip it. You

611
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Speaker 4: talk to people down there, they're like, we didn't show him.

612
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Speaker 4: Remember he only played one preseason game. We didn't show

613
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Speaker 4: him in pre season because that arm is a beautiful

614
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Speaker 4: thing to say, and we didn't want one. He you know,

615
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Speaker 4: I spoke to her he about this. We didn't want

616
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Speaker 4: the other team other show other teams at arm. But

617
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Speaker 4: I don't think we wanted to show their fans that

618
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Speaker 4: arm because they wouldn't been calling for this change a

619
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Speaker 4: lot earlier.

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Speaker 3: That happened, that would be that would be even worse.

621
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Speaker 2: Process.

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Speaker 4: We are talking about the one winged bird. There aren't

623
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Speaker 4: two wings on that falcon on the helmet pass they

624
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Speaker 4: are for a long time.

625
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is amazing.

626
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Speaker 1: We we suddenly have one of the most interesting parts

627
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Speaker 1: of the last three weeks. Though, is Michael Pennock started

628
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Speaker 1: this game. So just as an an unbiased observer like

629
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of happy to have this. We needed some

630
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Speaker 1: injection of interesting storylines into the.

631
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Speaker 2: End and that Division two and this is a very

632
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: winnable game.

633
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Speaker 1: And then next week they have a game against another contender.

634
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Speaker 1: I'm forgetting who it is now at the top of

635
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: my head, I'll check.

636
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: But they're in the mix.

637
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, they just need some help from the Dallas Cowboys

638
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 5: and they're right back in it with an opportunity. And yeah,

639
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 5: watching the Giants, my favorite player ever was playing the

640
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 5: Giants at five touchdowns last week.

641
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Speaker 3: I could barely stand to watch it film.

642
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Speaker 1: By the way, They're on Sunday Night football next week.

643
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Speaker 1: That was what I was thinking against the Commanders. Yes,

644
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Speaker 1: and they actually could even in a scenario where they

645
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Speaker 1: if they can win this week, they could actually get

646
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Speaker 1: into the wild card race. Even if the Bucks keep

647
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 1: winning to win the NFC South. If the Commanders lose

648
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: this week to the Eagles, yep, and then they can

649
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: beat them heads up next week, then it just makes

650
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 1: for an interesting stretch run. And frankly, he's my type

651
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: of quarterback that I've been wrong about and right about before.

652
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: Hefended no like big arm, anticipation, throws from the pocket

653
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: like to me, he's like he's like Herbert on the

654
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: high end. Jamis maybe in the mid in the middle,

655
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: lower end, like uh, Mike Glennon in the middle. Cutler

656
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: would be a better example, Cuddy Cutter. Cutler, let's get

657
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: let's give him, give me Cutler.

658
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: But he cares. That would be a great player.

659
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Speaker 3: And it's no longer Jay Cutler real quick.

660
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Speaker 4: And this is and this is from the patch of Claiban,

661
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Speaker 4: Whole of Destiny, right, I tweeted it yesterday Michael Penniski

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Speaker 4: is named starter. And what else happened on that day?

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Speaker 4: Michael Vick gets named the head coach at Norfolk State.

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Speaker 4: So two left handed Falcons quarterbacks leading their programs in

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Speaker 4: new directions.

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Speaker 3: You like that?

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Speaker 2: I love it?

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Speaker 3: Predestined.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's symmetry, and we interrupt our Atlanta Falcons podcast

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Speaker 5: and take it to the Arizona Cardinals four and a

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Speaker 5: half point favorites on the road against the team that

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Speaker 5: sunk our Survivor picks last week, the Carolina Panthers, the

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Speaker 5: over under forty seven. Chris Meyers, Mark slaff and Jen

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Speaker 5: Hale on the call. All the pozzy Steve from the

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Speaker 5: previous you know, vibe boosting but still losses went out

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Speaker 5: the window. Or Carolina, how do they perform against the

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Speaker 5: Cardinals team that still has a little bit of hope

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, you know, with Arizona and back in

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Speaker 4: the win column against you know, bad Patriots team last week,

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Speaker 4: this is gonna be a competitive game that six and

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Speaker 4: a half hour. I'm sorry that Ford was it four

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Speaker 4: to four and a half number? I like it for Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I think this is one where James Connor, he goes

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Speaker 4: over a thousand for the season. They pound the ball,

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Speaker 4: They kind of get back to where they were a

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Speaker 4: little bit and not relying so much on Kyler and

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Speaker 4: I think Carolina with that, I mean they did more

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Speaker 4: than stub their toe last week. I think that just

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Speaker 4: kind of they plateaued, and you know, if Arizona gets

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Speaker 4: up on him quickly.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they'll respond.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good I think it's an important

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Speaker 1: month for Bryce to continue his progress in the program,

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Speaker 1: to continue it. They were do I guess to have

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Speaker 1: a bad week, and they certainly had one.

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Speaker 3: I went bad week.

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Speaker 1: Well, I just mean they've been competitive in all these games.

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Speaker 1: I think looked like a NFL team, and then last

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Speaker 1: week they went back to their worst habits. I went

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Speaker 1: through a lot of the playoff scenarios, okay, to make

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Speaker 1: the case for these teams that feel like they're a

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Speaker 1: little on the outside looking in. Arizona wins a three

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Speaker 1: way tie in the NFC West if they all go

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Speaker 1: ten and seven. Now, they got to win out to

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Speaker 1: do that, but they but they have two division games,

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Speaker 1: the Rams and the forty nine ers that will help them.

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Speaker 2: So they would.

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Speaker 1: If it's Seahawks, Cardinals and Rams at ten and seven,

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Speaker 1: Cardinals win the division, they also win the two way

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Speaker 1: if it's a two way tie with the Rams, assuming

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Speaker 1: that they beat the Rams on Saturday Night on NFL

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Speaker 1: Network next week, which is that's their do or die game.

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Speaker 1: Every game is basically a do or die game, But

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Speaker 1: it's not that crazy of a route. They basically win

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Speaker 1: these next two games in Carolina and against the Rams,

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Speaker 1: and they might be in the driver's seat two weeks

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Speaker 1: from now. So even though they I don't I was

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Speaker 1: not convinced by them last week. They didn't make me

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Speaker 1: feel any better or worse about them the way they

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Speaker 1: played against the Patriots. And Kyle had an okay game,

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Speaker 1: nothing great, But they have an opportunity here.

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Speaker 2: It's still all right in front of him. By the way, Buddha.

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Speaker 1: Baker, how about that got a nice little contract extension,

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Speaker 1: third contract, third contract.

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Speaker 2: That is tough to do.

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Speaker 4: David Mullagata represents him. Man, David David gets all these

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Speaker 4: guys taken care of.

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Speaker 1: And the search Bar it's gotten some reinforcements. We got

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Speaker 1: Baron Browning. I mean, that's a guy people actually do know.

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Speaker 1: And then their first round pick, Darius Robinson played a

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Speaker 1: lot last week. So and they just gave a guy

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Speaker 1: a big contract. Buddha Baker. The search bar might they

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Speaker 1: might graduate from the search Bar at some point.

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Speaker 4: The links are gonna be purple because everybody's gonna have seen.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are just getting going here on NFL Daily.

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Speaker 1: We got we got a lot of games to get to.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hit some fun ones after the break and

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Speaker 1: including the Lions.

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Speaker 2: See if they can bounce back this week. Back on

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Speaker 2: NFL Daily, Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Before you set up this next game, Okay, can you

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Speaker 1: just remind me what the quote you read to me

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Speaker 1: from Kirk Cousins during the break was.

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Speaker 2: Because it was it was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: So he did call Michael Pennock Jr. They asked him

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Speaker 4: at his availability why he called him, and he said, quote,

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Speaker 4: I like to shoot elephants in the room, so I

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Speaker 4: just wanted to shoot one.

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Speaker 5: And they said he couldn't execute the big game. But

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Speaker 5: there he is, well done.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, good job, nicely shoot the elephant in the room.

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Speaker 3: My god.

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Speaker 2: And then he circled back to it. I like to

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Speaker 2: shoot elephants sweat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, man, that's poaching. You can't do it too much.

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Speaker 5: Kirk oh Cousins, Oh, Kirk, how we love the Yes,

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Speaker 5: that's a look back, but let's look forward to the

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Speaker 5: Detroit Lions. The very very injured Detroit Lions, but still

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Speaker 5: very very good six and a half point favorites in

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Speaker 5: Chicago against the Bears with the over under forty eight,

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Speaker 5: Kenny Albert, Jonathan Ville make Aan Olivy on the call,

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Speaker 5: Coach Campbell said, Greg, he's not buying the injury stuff.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be tough no more. David Montgomery for the

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Speaker 5: rest of the season. Ilan McNeil hoping to get good

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Speaker 5: news on Carlton Davis. It's not gonna matter against the Bears,

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Speaker 5: but what can they show you that they can get

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Speaker 5: it done without.

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Speaker 2: Those guys defensively?

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Speaker 1: I just think they want to stabilize and have a

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Speaker 1: positive performance. As banged up as they are, and losing

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Speaker 1: McNeil is huge for that defensive line.

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Speaker 3: Huge.

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Speaker 1: They still do have Zadaria Smith and they got it

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Speaker 1: for everyone, you know, talking about the injuries last week,

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Speaker 1: they did get Owen Wuzuriki and DJ Reader back on

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Speaker 1: the field. So that's three starters there on your defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Jack Campbell and that linebacker group behind him. That's really

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Speaker 1: where opposing teams are gonna make them pay. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if the Bears are the team to do that,

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Speaker 1: but just to play Devil's advocate a little bit, you

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Speaker 1: still have a creditable defensive line and some really good

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Speaker 1: players in the secondary, like I don't think hope is lost.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, maybe the number one offense

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Speaker 1: in the league, which they'll be okay without Montgomery, like

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Speaker 1: he's a big loss, but they'll be okay, they'll be great.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I still think I think Detroit overcomes it at least

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Speaker 4: to win the NFC North. I think they're gonna go

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Speaker 4: ahead and win the division just because they can score,

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Speaker 4: which is why I think that over underline is what

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Speaker 4: it is at forty eight, because I don't think the

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Speaker 4: Bears are hanging twenty five on them. But you know,

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Speaker 4: at some point, playing the type of football they like

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Speaker 4: to play where they've got it, where they can go

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Speaker 4: down and grind out ten and twelve play drives, when

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Speaker 4: teams start doing that to them because of some of

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Speaker 4: the injuries that they have and the lack of depth

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Speaker 4: they have, that's where it's gonna catch up to them.

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Speaker 4: But in the short term, I think they're still too

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Speaker 4: explosive and just too creative offensively to really fall off

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be more volume for Jamier Gibbs. Obviously.

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Speaker 5: I guess Craig Reynolds slides and he has the most

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Speaker 5: non Jared Goff actually has the third most carries on

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Speaker 5: the team, But then you go down to Craig Reynolds

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Speaker 5: as far as at the running back position, so he

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Speaker 5: comes in he fills nicely the role that I think

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Speaker 5: it hurts the offense. But over on the defensive side

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Speaker 5: of the ball, even when they did have everybody, it's

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Speaker 5: not like the Lions were shutting people down on defense

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Speaker 5: that I back to the shootout against Gino, one of

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Speaker 5: many shootouts against Gino that the Lions have had in

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Speaker 5: the past few years where they've had to score in

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Speaker 5: the past, and they can still do that. It's not

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Speaker 5: a problem against Chicago. But I think we're going to

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Speaker 5: learn a little bit about this team in this game

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Speaker 5: in terms of how they approach a game against the

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Speaker 5: team that they're significantly better than the loss against Buffalo.

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Speaker 5: Buffalo is still a very good team with the generational quarterback.

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Speaker 5: Right there's a lot of defenses problems.

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Speaker 2: Might just be the Super Bowl favorites on a neutral

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Speaker 2: field Bills.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 5: I feel like there's this tendency because we want so

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Speaker 5: much from the Lions and there it's been such a

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Speaker 5: great story to feel like this is it, this is

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Speaker 5: over this is still one of the best.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that their fans haven't been in this position, and

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Speaker 1: I saw some of the reaction online to their great

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Speaker 1: beat writer, Colton Pouncy, and he's answering questions from the

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Speaker 1: fans and they're like, well, what even hope do we

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Speaker 1: have left?

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Speaker 2: Is it over now?

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Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you guys lost the game and

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Speaker 1: you've had an incredible amount of injuries that is going

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Speaker 1: to make this path tougher. But let's not get it twisted.

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Speaker 1: You're still one of the favorites. You're still one of

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Speaker 1: the five teams five or six that if you're hosting,

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Speaker 1: you're winning the Lombardi in a couple months. Then I

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Speaker 1: won't be surprised because Jared Goff has never played better.

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Speaker 1: I am convinced he is absolutely peaking. So your quarterback

843
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: is peaking. You have playmakers on defense, but you have

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Speaker 1: even more of them on offense, and every the continuity,

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Speaker 1: everything is there for them. This is one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite picks of the week is them minus six and

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Speaker 1: a half. I will be putting it out there with

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Speaker 1: Cynthia on our man versus Machine picks because I think

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Speaker 1: great teams respond. I think Caleb Williams is a little

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Speaker 1: lost at see right now. And even though the Bears

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Speaker 1: defense competed really well, it's a division game, this game

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Speaker 1: was on Thanksgiving. In the end, I just think great

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Speaker 1: teams respawn and they'll respond in this game.

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I can't wait that Week eighteen game to them in

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Speaker 4: the vikings. I mean that could be for the division,

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Speaker 4: could be for top seed. So I mean they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to play all the way through. They've got to

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Speaker 4: stay healthy all the way through.

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Speaker 3: Here go to.

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Speaker 5: Our next home team, a seven and a half point

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Speaker 5: favorite at home, the Cincinnati Bengals taking on the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 5: Greg mentioned Steve the very reasonable path for a team

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Speaker 5: like the Arizona Cardinals. The Bengals need an incalculable amount

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Speaker 5: of help. It's absolutely in saying we saw Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 5: frustrations even in the win against the Tennessee Titans. The

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Speaker 5: Browns are going to be starting DTR Spirodidas, Adam Archoletta,

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Speaker 5: and A D. D. Kikawalla on the CALLI over under

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Speaker 5: is forty seven?

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Speaker 2: Is it that crazy a path? Though? Okay, let's put

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Speaker 2: it out there. Let's put it out there.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, you win this game against the Browns, now the

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game, which some of you maybe even watch

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Speaker 1: by the time you listen to this, it's so important

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Speaker 1: for Cincinnati. The Broncos Chargers game. You could look at

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Speaker 1: it two different ways. You could want the Chargers to

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Speaker 1: lose because they'll be easier to catch, but they lose

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Speaker 1: the head to head against the Chargers, so you actually

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Speaker 1: would need the Chargers to lose another game after that

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Speaker 1: and win out, and the Chargers have two quite winnable

881
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: road games. You could look at it the other way

882
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: and look at where the Broncos are at right now.

883
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: They would have the head to head over the Broncos.

884
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: If the Bengals could win out the Broncos lose on

885
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Thursday Night, then next week they play against the Broncos.

886
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: The Bengals play the Broncos in Week seventeen. That's a

887
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: really big game and you could take out the team

888
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: that's right in front of you, and the Broncos finished

889
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. We don't know if the Chiefs are

890
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: going to be playing for the one seed or not,

891
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: but there are a couple pass that aren't that crazy

892
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: to me. That's not crazy to see whether the Broncos

893
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: lose out or the Chargers lose a couple games here,

894
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: it's not over.

895
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: It's not over, no, I mean the only challenge is

896
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:58,479
Speaker 4: Cincinnati winning out.

897
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they've they're slopping as hell. Good point,

898
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: thank you, that's an issue. I've been making that point

899
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: all year, thank you.

900
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: Good fight.

901
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: Sorry penalties, negative plays, Yes, you're right. I mean look

902
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: this week. First off, I don't like that number. What

903
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: is the number?

904
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't like playing DTR.

905
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 3: They're playing DTR. But Cleveland's defense is good man.

906
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: I mean you talked about how they hell can't see

907
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 4: the twenty one points with six takeaways. That defense. Guys

908
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 4: in the secondary are playing well, they're competing. I mean,

909
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 4: they've got some pros on that side of the ball.

910
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: They should beat DTR. But who knows. If he pulls it.

911
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: Down and starts running on him, doesn't give it away,

912
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: I don't. I mean, Cleveland, they'd have their just speed

913
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 4: on the offense. Isn't there in the run game. Well,

914
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 4: Jerome Ford had the big hit last week, but it's

915
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: just with Cincinnati they still I mean it is the

916
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: Burrow and those two stud wide receivers. Everywhere else, he

917
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: just keep making so many mistakes just when you want

918
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: to buy into him, like, gosh, these guys are self destructive.

919
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 4: I love that scenario you rolled out. I don't see

920
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 4: the Chargers or the Broncos making the mistakes that the

921
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: Bengals do when it comes to winning ball games and

922
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: not beating well.

923
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: At least win this game, and you give yourself another

924
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: week to go to that Broncos game and yeah, Joe

925
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: Burrow do something that would be awesome, extraordinary, and you're

926
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: right watching them have I think it was like twelve

927
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: penalties and four turnovers against the Titans.

928
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 2: It's not going to inspire a ton of confidence. That's fair.

929
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: I think the problem with the one Path right, other

930
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: than the most significant issue being the Bengals being the Bengals,

931
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: is you get in a situation where you're relying on

932
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 4: a Carson Wentz led Chiefs team that's sitting everybody like

933
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: Christian's gonna be playing in that game, No, no, ma homes.

934
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: It probably get Hollywood maybe though, like not.

935
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: If you guys are right and the Chiefs are going

936
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: to lose this week against the Texans, then then they

937
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: will be playing for Week eighteen most likely. So just

938
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: just saying chance one of these is going to hit

939
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: one of these crazy, like one of the teams one

940
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,240
Speaker 1: right now that that is around three teen percent and lower.

941
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: There's about five or six teams between the two covers.

942
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: One of them's at least going to get to Week

943
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: eighteen with a real chance and the Bengals.

944
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: There was a team last week that had a chance

945
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: to be in this discussion but absolutely melted down. It's

946
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 5: the Indianapolis Colts. They are at home in the Division

947
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 5: three and a half point favorites against the Tennessee Titans.

948
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 5: That will start Mason Rudolph, Tom McCarthy, j Freeley, Ross

949
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 5: Tucker and our dear friend Tiffany Blackman on the call,

950
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: Greg where we've finally seen the results of the season

951
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 5: long Will Levis experiment and the results are back to

952
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: Mason Rudolph. Meanwhile, the Colts would like to have that

953
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 5: one back they lost their season.

954
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: They would, but they actually have a higher percentage chance

955
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: of making a playoffs. See, everyone just wants to cross

956
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: these teams out because it just feels like it's better.

957
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're you're so analytical, man. Watch just some

958
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: of the dumb stuff some of these teams do where

959
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: you have no faith, and that's where we're coming from.

960
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 3: Greg.

961
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: I don't think they're good.

962
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: I just think they have the easiest schedule in the

963
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: NFL the last three weeks. If you could construct this

964
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: schedule that did not include the Patriots and maybe the

965
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: Pages wouldn't be in this mix, could you come up

966
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: with an easier three pack of games than home for

967
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee at the Giants home for Jacksonville. I actually think

968
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: even if they don't make the playoffs at nine and

969
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: eight and they're in one of the scenarios I laid

970
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: out for Cincinnati, and I was playing with the playoff

971
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: machine last night. Actually they didn't get in because Indianapolis

972
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: gets in at nine and eight over Cincinnati. I'm just

973
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: saying they have a chance even if they don't get in.

974
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: I actually do think nine and eight and Anthony Richardson

975
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: plays competent football the last three weeks against these three

976
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: bad defenses will make the offseason feel different, feel better

977
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: than it does right now. So I do think these

978
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 1: late season games matter whether whether you make the playoffs

979
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: or now.

980
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: I get that point, but if they lose this game,

981
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 4: I mean tennise, well, that's the big yeah. I mean

982
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 4: Tennessee is just such a wildcard. I mean some days

983
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 4: it can get you inspired. I have no faith in

984
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 4: them right now. But like the Colts don't win this game,

985
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: it's like you're gonna look back on Jonathan Taylor that

986
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 4: fumble like wow, that that's what broke our backs, And

987
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 4: to me, that goes he you maybe aren't mentally tough

988
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 4: as you need to be. I do like Indianapolis in

989
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: this game. I just I mean, Tennessee's packed the bags.

990
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 3: We talked about it at the start of the show Man.

991
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: There's some team that's what I mean, final three preseason game.

992
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 1: Richardson's so hard because that first drive he had last

993
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: week where he had a couple just beautiful throws and

994
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: then they call the Reid option and he he just

995
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: looks like a faster Cam Newton out there and you're thinking,

996
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: and he throws really difficult middle of the field throws.

997
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: He's so hard to take down and but but it's

998
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: just not consistent.

999
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1000
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 5: And even even on the drive right where he steps

1001
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 5: through a defender, defender is gator rolling on his ankle

1002
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: and like.

1003
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 3: Richardson just pulls away.

1004
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: That's just like he's playing with his cousins, like his

1005
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: baby cousins are in the backyard trying to It's like, no,

1006
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 5: I will not be sacked. And then a couple players

1007
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 5: later has an inexplicable turnover. You know, it's just it's

1008
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 5: up and down. That's that's the nature of the Colts.

1009
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 5: But perhaps not out of it. As Greg Rosenthal says,

1010
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 5: there's always, gosh always.

1011
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: It's a real chance. It's a real chance.

1012
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 4: NFL optimism daily, a chance to see two two really

1013
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: good quarterbacks, a couple of the best of their generations.

1014
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers and the Jets not favored at home against

1015
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford and the Rams, who are favored about three

1016
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: and a half points. Kevin Harland, Trent Green, Melanie Collins

1017
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: on the call the Jets guy win that they desperately

1018
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 4: still came down to the wire.

1019
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 5: Can they be the spoiler against the Rams? Steve Well,

1020
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: They absolutely can be the spoiler.

1021
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 4: I mean if they played to some degree like they

1022
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: did last week on offense. I mean, DeVante Adams is fantastic,

1023
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: better veet Garrett Wilson. Otherwise, the more problems are coming

1024
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 4: because that's very talented. But you know, they they look

1025
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: like a legit football team against a football team that

1026
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 4: has also packed their bags and Jackson Bill Chaguars, that's

1027
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: two from the NFC South who've already gone fishing. But

1028
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: I just think the Rams man the way they're playing,

1029
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 4: the way they're running the ball is physicals are playing

1030
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: on the offensive line up front, those young dudes up

1031
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: front on the defensive front. You can't stop talking about

1032
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: him enough. They have not hit a rookie wall. They

1033
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 4: have built a rookie wall. I love the way they're

1034
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 4: playing some of the stuff for getting out the kicking

1035
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 4: game as well special teams. I just think the Rams

1036
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: are playing too well. I mean, the just can go

1037
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: out and play a really good game. I think Stafford's

1038
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 4: Rams all three phases, are one of the most dangerous

1039
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 4: teams and if they get in that's the team you

1040
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: don't want to face.

1041
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And although the NFC's filled with them, it's a

1042
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: really deep, compelling playoff field, where like I wouldn't want

1043
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: to play the Packers, No, we wouldn't want to play

1044
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: the Bucks like and that these are the teams that

1045
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: are a little I wouldn't want to play the Vikings like.

1046
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: They're all it's a really it's gonna be a great

1047
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: NFC tournament, especially if the Rams are in it. Just

1048
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: they haven't played their best for what it's worth on

1049
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: these longer road trips. I don't know if this is

1050
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: a under just random, but the Saint that Saints game,

1051
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: they didn't have any points at halftime. They lost to

1052
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: the Bears early. That was way early in the season,

1053
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: but they lost to the Bears. The Patriots game came

1054
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: right down to the wire. So they haven't done great

1055
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: with these longer road trips. Outdoor, you know, outdoors, we'll

1056
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: see And Aaron Rodgers is unquestionably playing better, looking better,

1057
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: looking healthier than he has all season. He rushed for

1058
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: forty five yards led the.

1059
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: Team last week.

1060
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: So to day they're a little more dangerous I think,

1061
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: and even sas Gardner Jeff Ulbrooks said, has played his

1062
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: best two games of the season last two weeks. That

1063
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: it's like kind of the sauce we knew he's playing

1064
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: with better spirit. They're just a little more dangerous I

1065
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: think than they were about a month ago, so they

1066
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: got to be careful.

1067
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 5: It was Gardener in the game on an inexplicable Max

1068
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 5: Schill's throw last week, which is a big part of

1069
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 5: while the Jets were able to be celebratory and happy

1070
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 5: as we can celebrate the fact that it's time for

1071
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 5: the Game of the Week presented by DraftKings Sportsbook. Yes,

1072
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: it's bad in the NFC East of Philadelphia Eagles three

1073
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 5: and a half point favorites on the road against Jaden

1074
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 5: Daniels and the Washington Commanders forty five and a half.

1075
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 5: See over under Joe Davis, g reg and Pam Oliver

1076
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: on the call. Greg the Commander's surviving a late push

1077
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 5: by the Rizzy Saints where a two point conversion was

1078
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 5: the difference. They are in the thick of a playoff

1079
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 5: race against the Philadelphia team that dispatched their in state

1080
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 5: rival a week ago.

1081
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and dispatched the Commanders, Remember on that Thursday night

1082
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 1: football game that was kind of a two teams heading

1083
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: in a little separate directions at that point where Philadelphia

1084
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: had one of their wins. And they've had a lot

1085
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: like this where it's close for a while, even though

1086
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel close, and then they just they just

1087
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: wear you down. And if you think about what's happened

1088
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: since Philly's actually had a tougher schedule, and yet they've

1089
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: won all their games. I thought when the two teams

1090
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: played against each other again like that Washington might still

1091
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: be in it. But they really aren't, and quietly they're

1092
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 1: not quite the same team that they were before. Noah

1093
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: Brown is out for the season. Austin Ekeler, you really

1094
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: feel for him because of that concussion that he suffered,

1095
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: might be out for the season. I'm guessing that he is,

1096
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: and Zach Ertz is in the concussion protocol this week.

1097
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: So they were already a little thin on offense. Their

1098
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 1: center Tyler Biattish was hurt last week as well, heat

1099
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: he is supposed to play, yeah, so, and Jonathan Allen,

1100
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: their talented defensive lineman, might be back for this game.

1101
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: So that's good.

1102
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: But I look at one team to me that other

1103
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: than Jalen Hurts being up and down, is you know,

1104
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: gathering strength almost at every position group the Philadelphia Eagles.

1105
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: And another that is not improving necessarily, the Commanders.

1106
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: As the season goes on, I think.

1107
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 4: They're gonna give Philadelphia hell of a game here, Okay,

1108
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: because you remember you talk about that last game Saquon

1109
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: rushed for As a team, they rushed for like two

1110
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty yards.

1111
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 3: Saquan was most that hit some big runs late.

1112
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 4: I think Washington's gonna deny some of those explosive plays

1113
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 4: and that's gonna balance things out of little bit they did.

1114
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: They were doing some things to Frankie Louver, a linebacker

1115
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: the game. I remember they were putting him out on

1116
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: the edge a lot to create some pressure and that

1117
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: opened up the middle of the field for Saquon. I

1118
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: don't think that's gonna happen again. I just think this

1119
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: is gonna be a hell of a game, Phillya.

1120
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: Three and a half. Maybe Philly gets to win. Three

1121
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 3: and a half might be much.

1122
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 4: I think Washington and Marshaw Lattimore coming out in his

1123
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 4: debut and shutting things down. I think he's gonna he's

1124
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 4: gonna help the defense. No, I mean, I'm just saying

1125
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: I just.

1126
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: Think no, no, No, you're right. I'm laughing about that happened

1127
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 1: on this show last week.

1128
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm saying schematic he's gonna allow them to do

1129
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: some things that are gonna deny some of those run

1130
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 4: yards that Philly got last time.

1131
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, Steve, because We had

1132
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: a we had a mole inside the Saints building last

1133
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: week and we actually heard that Mickey Loomis. He said,

1134
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: I don't care what you guys do in this game, Rizzy,

1135
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: no matter what, you are not throwing it to Marshawn Lattimore.

1136
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: We will not be embarrassed. Okay, that was We revealed

1137
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: that on the show last week, right right, Okay that

1138
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: that no matter what, we're not letting mar Latimer have

1139
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,439
Speaker 1: a highlight. He did not have a target, not one

1140
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: single target. So our moles, they knew what they were

1141
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: talking about.

1142
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, the right way to play a game probably best

1143
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 5: to not have JK and or target anybody. It's Spencer Radler,

1144
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 5: come fit point and salvage is the game. It makes

1145
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 5: it somewhat watchable. Where I'm just was I was skeptical

1146
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 5: about late season, Cliff, very very skeptical.

1147
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 3: We've seen more Terry from the right.

1148
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 4: He scored another touchdown from the right side of the

1149
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 4: field last week. Where just being able to utilize one

1150
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: of the best players in the game that we've had

1151
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 4: for a long time that it hasn't seen this level

1152
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 4: of play from the quarterback position. And we say it,

1153
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 4: but it's still worth celebrating that Terry gets this opportunity

1154
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: to play with Jayden and they need him. They need

1155
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 4: him now.

1156
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 5: The run game you mentioned, Eckler Brian Robinson Junior left

1157
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 5: the game against the Saints, and so it's all five

1158
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 5: and seventeen and those two can do it. But to

1159
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 5: do it against Philly at this point, the way that

1160
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 5: Quinn is playing, Cooper Degen coming on that the time,

1161
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 5: the season that Bond has had as well, it's.

1162
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 1: Just Nolan Smith is getting better every week, becoming a

1163
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: difference maker for this team. I looked at the numbers

1164
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: since Week seven, when when there was a little bit

1165
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: of a downturn for Washington in terms of explosive play rate,

1166
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: Eagles third in the league. They've cranked it up more

1167
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: big plays. A lot of those are runs to a

1168
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Saquon Washington twenty fifth. So Philly is gonna make you

1169
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: work down the field. That's gonna be a really big

1170
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 1: test for Jayden Daniels. Can he be patient and avoid mistakes?

1171
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: He looked god last week Jade datis yeah.

1172
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: And they've got the speed to track him down when

1173
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 4: he tries to break the pocket. I mean, that's one

1174
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: thing he's got to be cognizant.

1175
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: Of all right.

1176
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: That was our game of the week.

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1181
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: By the way of the early games, I like that

1182
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: that we have one big one early Philly in Washington

1183
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: with g Reg on the call. We are going to

1184
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: be back and we're gonna start talking some late games.

1185
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: My god, Gino needs a bounce back. It's one of

1186
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: the bigger four oh five games of the year. Seattle

1187
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: always in big four oh five games, no respect. Oh yeah,

1188
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: you big Christmas music guy.

1189
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 4: Hold, it depends on on the day. I don't like

1190
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 4: to be saturated with it. But nothing like some good

1191
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 4: Donny Hathaway, you know, every now and then.

1192
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 5: It's anything that's not that Waitresses Christmas rapping song and

1193
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 5: Paul McCartney's Wonderful Christmas.

1194
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: That's that doesn't that doesn't get to that.

1195
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 5: Not just bad Christmas all. In my opinion, a person

1196
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 5: who knows nothing about music. Two of the worst songs.

1197
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: I've wow, I'll take but not really wrong.

1198
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: What about you, Greg? I do.

1199
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 2: As I've gotten older, I've gotten more in the holiday spirit.

1200
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: I grew up not really celebrating Christmas exactly like we

1201
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: would give gifts on the twenty fifth. But my parents

1202
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: are Jewish and they didn't really want to get behind that.

1203
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: But now I think.

1204
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to live out the childhood I didn't have,

1205
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 1: but my family is not that into it. They almost

1206
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: make fun of me of being like the guy who's

1207
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: trying to get into it. Come on, I mean they

1208
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: like getting present.

1209
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: Just roasted them, like you're all about consumerism.

1210
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: Do not about that, but like going out to the

1211
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: holiday lights and doing all that sort of stuff. Like

1212
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: the kids, they've changed. They begged off the holiday lights

1213
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: this year.

1214
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: Just watch Netflix game on Go. It'll be cool.

1215
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Walker will be watching from Japan. You can. You can

1216
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: watch it all over the world.

1217
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: Look when I mentioned no respect for the Seahawks at

1218
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: four oh five, just in case, like there's sometimes some

1219
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: new fans to the mix, Like four oh five means

1220
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: you're not in the four to twenty five window, which

1221
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: is where they show most of the country stands four

1222
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: or five. They're just kind of trying to bury it

1223
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: in your local markets and have it end, and they're

1224
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: not giving it full respect. So that's why I say

1225
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: Viking Seahawks, and I think it's just bad luck that

1226
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: that's a Fox game that should be the game of

1227
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: the afternoon and yet it's buried there.

1228
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, a team that's contending for not just the best

1229
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 5: record in the NFC, I mean at this point they

1230
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 5: could be finished with the best record in the entire NFL.

1231
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: The Minnesota Vikings three and a half point favorites on

1232
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 5: the road Steve against the Seattle team that saw Sam Howell,

1233
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 5: and they needed Gino Smith back in that game against

1234
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 5: the Packers. On Sunday Night Football, Adam Me and Mark

1235
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 5: Sanchez Christina Pink on the call over under forty two

1236
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 5: and a half, where you start to wonder where can

1237
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 5: the Vikings stutter late in the season. Well, here's an

1238
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 5: opportunity on the road with Gino feeling better than we thought.

1239
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's real tough to play the practice sports team.

1240
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 4: Good on Gino, And I'm just gonna go off a

1241
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 4: little bit now on Gino. But you know last year

1242
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 4: when a backup quarterback. I had to come in for

1243
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 4: like a half and play and he was terrible. And

1244
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: after the game I spoke to a high ranking execution

1245
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: I never want to see that player in our uniform again.

1246
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 4: I don't think this Seahawks ever want to see Sam

1247
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 4: Howell oh snap again. That dude was taking twenty yards,

1248
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 4: you know, a runway to get it and he was

1249
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: popping it out five yards with problems.

1250
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 3: They didn't want to ever see him take another snap.

1251
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: I want to know who the other quarterback was last year.

1252
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 3: I can't see it right now. Can't do that.

1253
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: That would be you're you're right though confidence I follow

1254
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I follow a lot of Seahawks fans on social media,

1255
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of curse words being sent

1256
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: towards John Schneider for making the trade to acquire Sam

1257
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: Howell and and kind of sell him as an intriguing prospect.

1258
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: They missed Drew Locke luckily. Gina Smith gotta be back.

1259
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: This is This is gonna be a good game. And

1260
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: and you know, Minnesota's a three and a half point favorite.

1261
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: I like it.

1262
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 4: Seattle's gonna play tough this game. This is this is

1263
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 4: kind of a good matchup. We know that McDonald was

1264
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 4: brought in to be kind of the McVeigh stopera. We know,

1265
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,240
Speaker 4: you know, Kevin O'Connell runs at McVeigh offense. Sam donald

1266
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: was not great Monday night. He was good, It was

1267
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 4: good enough, but Aaron Jones showed out. You know, the

1268
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: superstars showed out. And I think that's where you know,

1269
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 4: the Vikings have the matchup. Their skilled players and their

1270
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: superstar players are legit. The guys on the back end

1271
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 4: are legit. They take the ball away. Seattle's got to

1272
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 4: be very careful and if they don't, Seattle is not

1273
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: able to get the run game going. And it is

1274
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 4: look Gino, as much as I kind of mock up

1275
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: to you on quarterback, he's a hell of a player.

1276
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: Like if they've got a rate, you know, lean on Gino.

1277
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 3: He can win ball games.

1278
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 4: But against this defense and the different looks they give

1279
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: you many Brian Flores, the second half of games is

1280
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 4: insane with the looks he gives you.

1281
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 3: It is going to be tough.

1282
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: So I like Minnesota in this game, but I think

1283
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 4: this is going to be the late game of.

1284
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: The day really important for both teams. Minnesota to keep

1285
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: that pole position to win the NFC North. If they

1286
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: win out, they will win the DIVS Vision Seattle to

1287
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: try to stay right there in the NFC West, or

1288
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: suddenly they have a skid and Seahawks fans probably feel like, man,

1289
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: we finally felt like we had something and then the

1290
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: floor just falls out last week. And I felt that

1291
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: way too, But it's like, yeah, that's what ten and

1292
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: even seven seasons look like. You're not gonna win every game.

1293
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: This is the first year under this program. They have

1294
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: been streaky, a little up and down. But I don't

1295
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: think just because they looked awful last week against a

1296
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: team that is more talented than that, they're at least

1297
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: just better than them. I don't think that means they're

1298
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: done their defensive improvement up front. They got it settled

1299
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: down in the second half of that game. I think

1300
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: they can give Minnesota real problems because I think Minnesota's

1301
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: offensive line is a little overrated. O'Neill hasn't really been

1302
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: playing well. They're not great on the interior, and so

1303
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: I know Donold's been great under pressure all year. As

1304
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned, he wasn't on Monday night, and you would

1305
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: love to just keep pressuring him.

1306
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 2: Stop the run.

1307
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: See if this is an ugly weather type of game,

1308
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: you get ken Walker back, you get Olawa Teamy back,

1309
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: who I wouldn't have thought was such an important player

1310
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, but he's their center and he got

1311
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: hurt right away in that that's destabilizing for that to happen,

1312
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: and he's supposed to return for this game, so I

1313
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: think they will respond. I like them as an underdog,

1314
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: at least to cover. I'm not sure if I'll pick

1315
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: them to win, but it wouldn't It wouldn't surprise me

1316
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:26,919
Speaker 1: the won this game.

1317
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

1318
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 5: And I think as the as as Mike mac being

1319
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 5: the tree Stopper and the Shanahan Tree, I feel like

1320
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 5: there's there's so many times where I've I don't know

1321
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 5: if I want to count Matt Lafleur as.

1322
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: Part of it.

1323
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: I know, I know he's in the tree, but it's

1324
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: just so different, right, it feels like a departure. Kevin

1325
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 5: O'Connell feels more in line with the with the original tree,

1326
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: and maybe maybe we I mean, what is it.

1327
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 1: That he really does that's like the magic sprinkling of

1328
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: this tree? I don't know, do you think there is

1329
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: something to it?

1330
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, it does come to ex's and o's.

1331
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: I mean even though they were is there anything specific?

1332
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: There is a communication factor.

1333
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 4: You talk to people about sean Emvay and why he's

1334
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: so good, especially later of the seasons. One they developed

1335
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 4: guys and just think about all the coaches they've lost

1336
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 4: and they still develop young players.

1337
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: We talked about that, but its communication.

1338
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 4: They're like, Sewan doesn't just sit in the quarterbacks room

1339
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: or he goes in here and he makes every player

1340
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: at every position to understand why they're doing individually, what

1341
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 4: they're doing is okay, what they're doing on that side

1342
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 4: of the ball, what the team is trying to accomplish.

1343
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 4: So everybody is invested and you and Kevin O'Connell does

1344
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: that as well as anybody.

1345
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 3: Man.

1346
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 4: They they've got a great staff in Minnesota. Kevin O'Connell

1347
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 4: could do it. Matt Lafleur is the same.

1348
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 2: What does Mike McDonald do.

1349
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 4: Well, he's he's the stopper, He's he does the stuff

1350
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: kind of like what Fangio did, what Belichick did? You know,

1351
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 4: he kind of understands, let's five man and six man

1352
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 4: defense in front of them, and let's just beat the

1353
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: hell out of their offensive lineman. Let's let our linebackers

1354
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 4: run free and make plays.

1355
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: So they they got.

1356
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 5: Some, they got some small Okay, I've I've officially confirmed

1357
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 5: my priors on this correct. So the Rams line up

1358
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 5: under center of forty four percent of the time, Yeah,

1359
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 5: the Vikings of the time. The Green Bay Packers line

1360
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,479
Speaker 5: up under center twenty three percent.

1361
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: They they have been, they have been different, and.

1362
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: It's not in the tree anymore.

1363
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: I love that the Vikings essentially start their playoffs now.

1364
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: They they do not play any bad teams the rest

1365
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: of the way like they have Seahawks, Packers, Lions and

1366
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: then playoffs and so it's on and we're gonna learn

1367
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: about them, and we're gonna learn about this Seattle team.

1368
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: Like there is a tendency I think after a game

1369
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: that poor on Sunday Night football, and it was poor,

1370
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean they got it handed to them by the Packers,

1371
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: that just like, Okay, I guess they're a pretender. It's like, no,

1372
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: that's what I in six teams look like the Rams

1373
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: have had those games too, they just haven't had them

1374
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: in the last handful of weeks, and so they just

1375
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: they just need to respond let's go real quick.

1376
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: She lude to Patrick Clayo offer calling Mike MacDonald the

1377
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: mcface STOPPERA So he's the Ruben Patterson.

1378
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's yeah, the Kobe, the Ruby.

1379
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 5: If you want to go, I guess to Michael Petrice, right,

1380
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 5: like any number of stoppers who Michael pet stopping, well,

1381
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 5: Michael Petrice was allegedly stopping Lebron. Okay at a certain

1382
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: point that that that never came to be. Much like

1383
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 5: Andrea Goodalla, who had Lebron have the one of the

1384
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 5: greatest seasons ever, series ever and somehow got an MVP.

1385
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: About how about Celtics. Tony Allen was kind of an

1386
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: early Lebron staff.

1387
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 4: Tony Allen Man, Yeah, Tonya Allen was a hell with

1388
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: defensive player.

1389
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 5: I could talk association with you guys all the time.

1390
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 5: But let's get to the one the only thing that matters.

1391
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 5: As Greg Rosenthal has called him several times. The season

1392
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 5: Drake May and the New England Patriots on the road

1393
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 5: where the Bills are fourteen point favorite vibes immaculate. Josh

1394
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 5: Allen got engaged to Hailey Steinfeld. It says that everything's

1395
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 5: been coming up Buffalo for forty six is the over

1396
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 5: under Iron Eagle Charles Davis and Evan Washburn on the call.

1397
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 5: But fourteen points in the division, I know you're skeptical, Greg,

1398
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 5: of your New England Patriots. That feels like a lot

1399
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 5: of points.

1400
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they could. I think they could cover that.

1401
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: I think there could be a little bit of a

1402
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: letdown factor. It's a weird stretch. Now the Bills after

1403
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: getting through these big games, have the Patriots a couple

1404
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 1: of times, and the Jets teams that they're they're certainly

1405
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: better than and offensively they're going to put up thirty plus.

1406
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

1407
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: But the reason why fourteen is a lot is that

1408
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: you could see Drake May exposing some of the weaknesses

1409
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: that we've seen out of Buffalo if he can just

1410
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 1: get a little bit of time.

1411
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: And yes, he is the one thing that matters in

1412
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: New England.

1413
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: He is the one thing that matters.

1414
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 2: But actually there's two him and Christian Gonzales. Okay, yeah, it.

1415
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: Is kind of in you know, they do have maybe

1416
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: the best young cornerback and the best young quarterback in

1417
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: the league.

1418
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 3: There we go.

1419
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 4: That's something that build off, that's something and those are

1420
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 4: two key positions where at some point you're gonna have

1421
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: to pay him well, as Jered Mayo could come under

1422
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 4: some smoke this week.

1423
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 3: My god, he's getting cooked up in that market.

1424
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 4: By the way, fourteen not enough, I think even if

1425
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 4: Buffalo is just because on both sides of the ball, man,

1426
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball, Buffalo is they're too talented,

1427
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: they're playing too well right now. You know, Sean mcdermot's

1428
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 4: you know, he's not mentioned enough in the Coach of

1429
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 4: the Year conversation.

1430
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: He needs to start, we know, you start dialing that

1431
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 3: temperature up a little bit.

1432
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 4: Josh Allen whatever, James Cook is the guy who's been

1433
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 4: impressing me in their offense. I mean, it seems like

1434
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: he's hitting two or three explosive plays off tackle like

1435
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 4: this every game.

1436
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Pagriots cannot defend the run, which is

1437
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: no one of the many ways that you can tell

1438
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: they're you know, not as well coached as they were

1439
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: a year ago when they were still a good defense.

1440
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 3: On defense.

1441
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 4: There's a chance though, for Drake to air it out here.

1442
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 4: Because of all the success the Bills have had, they

1443
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 4: still given up eighty four points in the last two weeks. Yeah,

1444
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: and you know Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff very very good.

1445
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks that were traded for each other.

1446
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 5: It's still this is this is a chance for Newland

1447
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 5: to work on this passive games showcase how gifted their

1448
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 5: quarterback is. Who gets some comps to the guy on

1449
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: the other side, and I think that those those comps

1450
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 5: aren't silly or legit.

1451
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: I like those cops.

1452
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not quite there physically. I mean, who is

1453
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 1: other than Cam Newton, maybe Richardson. I just mean he's

1454
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: just not as big as as as Josh Allen is,

1455
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's as risk taking. That's been

1456
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: the thing that that has been surprised. I actually thought

1457
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 1: he was based on his tape at unc AND early

1458
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: this season.

1459
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 2: But go go.

1460
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: Back in the tape, find me the negative plays Drake

1461
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: May has made. The last couple of weeks. There have

1462
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: not been many bad decisions, bad plays, and I have

1463
01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: some numbers.

1464
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 2: That it's going to back back.

1465
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

1466
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: I did some next Greg stats research this morning, did

1467
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: my own little.

1468
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: Stuff since uh week ten.

1469
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: It's pretty long sample size five games, fourth in the

1470
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: NFL and completion percentage quarterbacks seventh in completion percentage over expected.

1471
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: And then here's the one that really gets me. Going

1472
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: fourth in success rate in the entire NFL despite what's

1473
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 1: around him, that's a minor miracle. The only guys in

1474
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: front of him are Goff, I would and Jared Allen

1475
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen and Tua actually was in front of him.

1476
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: I would never have guessed that, even if a lot

1477
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 4: of those come in garbage time, he's still throwing the

1478
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 4: majority of the game.

1479
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: He's not taking negative plays.

1480
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: PFF has some fourteenth that feels more appropriate too. Overall,

1481
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: but that's ahead of guys like Baker and Purdy and

1482
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: Mahomes and just on their individual Gradinges says, he's just

1483
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: not making many mistakes, and he's making a lot of

1484
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: really heady plays.

1485
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: Under a lot of pressure. Too.

1486
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 4: Good for him. He's real, Patrick, He's real. It's fun.

1487
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 4: It's fun to see.

1488
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 5: Speaking of fun, the Jacksonville Jaguars on the road against

1489
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 5: the Las Vegas Raiders, who were favored by one over

1490
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 5: under his sixteen points just getting thirty nine and a

1491
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 5: half points. Andrew catial on, t Kee Barber, Jason mccordy,

1492
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 5: and aj Ross on the call. It is McCorkle, Jones

1493
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 5: going up against Desmond Ritter. We think, Steve, Yeah, your

1494
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 5: thoughts on this football game?

1495
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know how the Raiders are favored, but.

1496
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: Gosh, man, big game for the picks. Here's a dirty secret.

1497
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: I actually wish there was a couple games like this

1498
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: every week. This is the only one because I want

1499
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: to save time on my tape watching and I do

1500
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: not want to watch this tape. No, I feel comfortable

1501
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: about it. Sorry, Brian Thomas Jr. I love you.

1502
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: I like the Jags on this.

1503
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 4: You know, everything with the Raiders is not great, even

1504
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 4: getting kicks, block punts, block things like that.

1505
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: I think the Jackson It's only it's actually the only

1506
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: game like this this week between two teams that are

1507
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: totally out of it, which you wouldn't expect because there's

1508
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that are out of it, but

1509
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: each one is playing like this is the only dead game.

1510
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: Emphasize the totally out of it part. They've not just

1511
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 4: gone fishing and they are on the boat in their gear.

1512
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: It's and yet, if the Raiders win this game and

1513
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: their favorite swim, Yeah, if their favorites and they win

1514
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 1: this game, they could hurt their draft pick. Giants are

1515
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 1: watching this game and they're saying, let's go Jags, I mean,

1516
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: let's go Raiders.

1517
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 2: Jags lose it for us.

1518
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 5: Not all quit, not only quitting the Raiders team. We'll

1519
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 5: see how things go. Uh there, We'll move on in

1520
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 5: that game, which is a joy to the game that

1521
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 5: at the start of the season had so much promise,

1522
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 5: so much in fact, that it's jim Nance, Tony Romo,

1523
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 5: and Tracy Wolfson who on the call to see the

1524
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine Ers go into Miami against the Dolphins,

1525
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 5: who are a one point home favorite greg the over

1526
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 5: under forty four.

1527
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 3: And a half.

1528
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 5: They got stung by Derek Stingley's interceptions last week.

1529
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 3: They remained in that game.

1530
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 5: They've had some heartbreakers, They've been trying to get back

1531
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 5: in the picture.

1532
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: How do you view we couldn't get a better game

1533
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: for CBS in the afternoon window.

1534
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: That's wild.

1535
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: I think people would rather see Josh Allen and Drake

1536
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: may just because Josh Allen is the story in the

1537
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: in the league right now. So I think they I

1538
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: think they made against Rogers that that's true. That's early though,

1539
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: like they would I would give Josh Allen that spot

1540
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: but you know when they make these decisions a couple

1541
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, I guess they were hoping for some

1542
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: more wins out of these two teams, the forty nine

1543
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: ers actually, of all the teams that are left them,

1544
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: and the Saints have the lowest chance to make the playoffs,

1545
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 1: they're they're right there at one percent, so they they

1546
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: have a very good chance to get eliminated this week.

1547
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: I am curious to see how Tua in this offense

1548
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: bounces back because last week's performance was so bad and

1549
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: so out of nowhere. After they were what I called

1550
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: on this offense the most I mean on this show,

1551
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: the most consistent unit in the league.

1552
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 2: They were.

1553
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: They were the exact same every week you watch the Dolphins,

1554
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: you knew what you were going to get, and it

1555
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: was extremely efficient. That's why Tua was up there ahead

1556
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: Drake Man's success, right, and yet last week they got

1557
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: it put to them. That was a defensive master class

1558
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: there by Damico Ryans and kind of humbled this Dolphins team.

1559
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 4: Well, and he humbled the coach who used to coach

1560
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 4: with up in San Francisco. So maybe there were some

1561
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 4: things going on right there. Miami's booncing back this week.

1562
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 4: I think, I mean, look, San Francisco's proud, They're gonna

1563
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 4: go out there. It's gonna be a good game, but

1564
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 4: just too many injuries in the run game. Talking about

1565
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 4: Trent Williams is probably done for the season at left

1566
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 4: tackle for the forty nine ers. I think Miami's offense

1567
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 4: gets going, its defense, we'll do some things against the

1568
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 4: forty nine ers. I like Miami plus the one point

1569
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 4: that they're getting, it's gonna be tough. The passing game

1570
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 4: has to be short.

1571
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 5: They they don't seem to be able to protect Tua

1572
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 5: long enough to have the deep passing game. And if

1573
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,839
Speaker 5: you want to rush yards over expected step, the Dolphins

1574
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 5: have negative two hundred and fifty seven rush yards over

1575
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 5: expected on designed run this season.

1576
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:54,639
Speaker 3: No explosives.

1577
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 5: It's they cannot run the ball, even though Raheem Moster

1578
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 5: back in these past couple of weeks, and they haven't

1579
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 5: been able to do anything on the ground. And it's

1580
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 5: just all has to be to operating quick passes right

1581
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 5: around the line of scrimmage.

1582
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 3: It's just tough.

1583
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: These teams are kind of mirror images of each other.

1584
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: When you think about the high expectations on offense, the

1585
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: offensive coaches and Kyle Shanahan at least still has that

1586
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: running game. The Dolphins not having a running game is

1587
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: one of the more surprising elements of the year. And

1588
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: I think Tua deserves some blame for last week too.

1589
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: I think people want to put it on just the

1590
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: offensive line and everything, but Trent Green in that game,

1591
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 1: he never criticizes anything, and he was pointing out some

1592
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,719
Speaker 1: passes that he thought Tua was passing up not going

1593
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: down the field. And I've seen some other analysts kind

1594
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: of look at the tape a little bit, and even

1595
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: on some plays that he was protected, he wasn't pulling

1596
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: the trigger. And whether it's a coaching point or who

1597
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: knows why, but that is just totally gone from their offense,

1598
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: and so that gives them a small margin for error.

1599
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 4: Two my early season MVP can I'm just joking. I'm

1600
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 4: not going to talk with Baker in Baker anymore.

1601
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 3: Greg. It's Sunday Night football.

1602
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 5: It's Tampa Bay Buccaneers four point favorites against the scrappy

1603
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 5: late season push by the Dallas Cowboys. Forty eight and

1604
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 5: a half is the over under. It's Sunday Night. So

1605
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 5: Mike to Rico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark on the call.

1606
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 5: The Cowboys broke our survivor hearts last week. Could they

1607
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 5: break the hearts of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who are

1608
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 5: playing really good football right now, especially across the street

1609
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 5: last week at so Far Stadium.

1610
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 4: Tampa's playing well. I like him in this game, Dallas.

1611
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 4: I mean, they compete. I mean, ever since Michael Parsons

1612
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 4: come back, their defenses has been good. It sucks about

1613
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 4: overshowing getting that injury, and I think you know, Trey

1614
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 4: Diggs is out, so I think Baker could have another game.

1615
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 4: Mike Evans is doing it the run game, getting both

1616
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 4: those guys going.

1617
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 3: I like Tampa Bay. I like the points.

1618
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if Dallas is going to put up

1619
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 4: a ton of points given to Cooper Rush has showing

1620
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 4: why they're playing him over three Lance. I like the

1621
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 4: Buccaneers in this game. Go ahead and take another step

1622
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 4: to win that NFC Shu.

1623
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: It's funny watching that Cowboys game last week. I started thinking, like,

1624
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: man if Dak was on this team. Yeah, it's funny

1625
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: how that works. You lose a franchise quarterback and you

1626
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 1: don't have as much hope, but they've actually won a

1627
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: bunch of games now since he's got hurt. Because I

1628
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: went back and I looked, I was like, what games

1629
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: would they have won with him?

1630
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1631
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: They lost, They got waxed by the Eagles, they got

1632
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: waxed by the Texans. Maybe they would have been more

1633
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: competitive there, Maybe they would have beat the Bengals. That

1634
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: would have been the difference, because yeah, Micah Parsons makes

1635
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 1: this pass rush alone, one of the best pass russes.

1636
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 2: In the league. That is how amazing a player he is.

1637
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 3: He was.

1638
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 1: He has been my pick in back to back seasons

1639
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: before the seasons to be Defensive Player of the Year.

1640
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: It hasn't happened yet, and yet I feel like he

1641
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 1: is the best defensive player in the league. Like he's

1642
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: my if I could pick one, I still think he

1643
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: Like he's playing better right now. If I could take

1644
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: someone for this week and for the last month than

1645
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: anyone in the league, it is Micah Parsons. Now, he

1646
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: wasn't healthy enough that he's going to get considered for

1647
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: that award, but that's how good he is, So who knows,

1648
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,759
Speaker 1: Maybe he could scare up the Bucks.

1649
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: I kind of doubt it.

1650
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: Well, the issue for Dallas, and I think the one

1651
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 4: big Dack on and off thing. I don't think the

1652
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 4: run game ever gets to where it is right now

1653
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 4: with Rico Dawdell. If Dak's playing, because they wouldn't rely

1654
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 4: on it. That's a great point.

1655
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 5: Week thirteen, one hundred and twenty two yards, a week fourteen,

1656
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty one yards.

1657
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 3: And then against Carolina.

1658
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 5: Again it's Carolina, it's a historically bad run defense, but

1659
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty nine yards from a Cowboys offense

1660
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 5: that didn't seem to be remotely interested in being able

1661
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 5: to run the ball at the start of the year.

1662
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 5: Right now that it's something that they can do, and

1663
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 5: what a time for it against the Bucks team where

1664
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 5: it's not a give up play anymore, like they're actually

1665
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 5: having success running the football.

1666
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been impressive, really, how that line has come

1667
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: together running the ball now, Zach Martin now too, that'll

1668
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: be hard this week because the Bucks have played better

1669
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: run defense over the last five or six weeks, and

1670
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: then their blitz rate has gone from like normal Bulls level,

1671
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: which is right at the top league, to just insane.

1672
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: They blitzed Justin Herbert sixty two percent of the time

1673
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: last week.

1674
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: That's just crazy, man, and it's it's working.

1675
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, like they they've gotten it going a

1676
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: little bit defensively where they were a below average defense

1677
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 1: and now they've gotten to average or better. And it's

1678
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 1: a lot of it. As Levante David actually that they

1679
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: just blitz him like crazy, and then they are the

1680
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: explosive play Maschin on offense. They are the NFC's Ravens,

1681
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: which is crazy because Baker's their quarterback. But in terms

1682
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: of just like hitting forty to fifty thirty yard plays.

1683
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,759
Speaker 5: Sorry, no, they gave They gave Todd Bowles a giggle

1684
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 5: fit this week because they they asked about Baker and

1685
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 5: his rushing and compared him to Josh Allen and Lamar

1686
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 5: and Jay Daniels and coach Bowls.

1687
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 3: Is like, well maybe not maybe not those three. And

1688
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: then he went into a chuckle fit.

1689
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 5: He had a good time with that, and then they

1690
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 5: asked Baker about it, and you know, he just grab

1691
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 5: himself with a scrappy runner.

1692
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: You know what, though he's he's hit enough big running

1693
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 1: plays at really important moments last week that that big

1694
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: run that he had against the Chargers was an important

1695
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: run in that game. And he's making full field reads.

1696
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: I give him a lot of credit where he'll start

1697
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 1: in the left. So that's coaching and that's maturation from

1698
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: from Baker. He really is a great quarterback, except like

1699
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: he'll make a handful of decision that you're like, why

1700
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 1: did he do that?

1701
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: But other than that, like he's been awesome.

1702
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 4: And here's how great he's really going to show himself

1703
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 4: because he's gonna have another offensive coordinator next year to

1704
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 4: because Liam Cohen's probably gonna be on the short list

1705
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 4: of a lot of teams to get hired as a

1706
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 4: head coach next year as well.

1707
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 5: I really just want that quote graphic made. He really

1708
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:52,440
Speaker 5: is a great quarterback.

1709
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 3: He really is.

1710
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 4: Greg Wilsenthal on Baker Mayfield. We've got there, We got there,

1711
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,879
Speaker 4: and we've got to our final game of the season.

1712
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 5: It is Spencer Rattler and the New Orleans Saints on

1713
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 5: the road against the Buzzsaw that is these late season

1714
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 5: Toyota than edition Green Bay Packers, who are favored by

1715
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 5: fourteen and a half points forty two is over under

1716
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 5: Joe Troy and Lisa on the call. As it is

1717
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 5: Monday Night Football, No. Doubleheader and probably Steve no shot

1718
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 5: for the Saints.

1719
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 3: They're right now.

1720
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 4: They are filming so many Christmas packages to run by

1721
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 4: the time they get to the fourth quarter.

1722
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,480
Speaker 3: Monday Night football.

1723
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 4: Look the Packers you mentioned earlier, Greg, They're a team

1724
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 4: you don't want to mess with. Defensively, they look, I

1725
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 4: mean they are so physical upfront the team, what Rashaan

1726
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 4: Gary linebackers are doing. And then offensively, Jordan Love, I mean,

1727
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 4: just everything to go.

1728
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 3: I mean the run game.

1729
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 4: This is going to be so tough for New Orleans.

1730
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 4: A Dome team going up here. Spencer Rattler faced some

1731
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 4: of the looks. But you know, let's talk a little

1732
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 4: bit about Josh Jacobs, I mean, in what he's been

1733
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 4: able to do leading all of these veteran running backs

1734
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 4: who change teams, who are eating I'm happy for a

1735
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 4: guy like lot like Josh Jacobs because he's finally getting

1736
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 4: to taste some type of success. I mean, he was

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01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 4: like non diasin wah with the Raiders, like never playing

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01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 4: on a team with a winning record.

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: And now he's like, oh, this is what this feels like.

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01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: And they and they, I think have recognized that he

1741
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: needs to be the foundation of their offense, Like they

1742
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: came into that game last week and they realized the

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01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: week before that he wasn't central enough to their opening script,

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01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: and they.

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01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,440
Speaker 2: Made sure it's all about Jacobs.

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting to see Lafleur and Jordan Love

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01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: become what I would call a run first offense that

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01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: Malik Willis stretch. I don't know if they would have

1749
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: really good point been't like that otherwise, but I think

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01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: they are a run based offense in part because of

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01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: that Malik Willis stretch.

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01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 5: It kind of allowed him to get into groove as

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01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 5: a play caller with this line, which has been together

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01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 5: all season.

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01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 3: They haven't had a lot of pieces to.

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01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 5: Move around, and Josh Jacobs being a part of that

1757
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 5: as well central to the game during that stretch. And

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01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 5: then Love comes back and I don't think he was

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01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 5: one hundred percent as he slowly got worked in and

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01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 5: so they had to lean on it a little bit more.

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01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 5: And it's gotten to the point where, not in the

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01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 5: same way as the Dallas Cowboys, but they realize that

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01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 5: this is this is where they can be successful and

1764
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 5: running the ball, and they don't they do it in

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01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 5: the shotgun. They'll bring Jacob's in a round in motion

1766
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 5: and have him stop. They do the same thing with

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01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 5: love and pistol in so many different ways, which is

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01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 5: why he's not in the Shanahan Tree.

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01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,160
Speaker 3: Matt Lafleur is his own.

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01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 4: So Glad Patrick is talking about this, but two percent

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01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 4: is all they get to understand.

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 3: So you're doing pistol, you're doing shotgun.

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01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,880
Speaker 4: You do some offset stuff that is not easy to

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01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 4: do to coordinate that, but to an offensive line, quarterback

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01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 4: and run back because you tip a lot more of

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:54,919
Speaker 4: your plays when you're in shotgun.

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01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 3: Right, That's what teams will tell you. Okay, we know

1778
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:58,120
Speaker 3: in this situation is they like to do.

1779
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 4: To be able to run out of shotgun is really

1780
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 4: going to open some things up for what Laflora can

1781
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 4: do when this offense can do. So, I mean, that's

1782
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 4: such a great point when you said that twenty two percent,

1783
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 4: I thought they were under center a lot more.

1784
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,520
Speaker 3: Having that watch every moment of every game.

1785
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,640
Speaker 2: And love his numbers.

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01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: He's only throwing the ball twenty five times a week,

1787
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: but he's over nine adjusted yards per attempt over the

1788
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 1: last month, which is sky high, which is higher than

1789
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 1: lamar Is, who's leading the league in it for the season,

1790
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: so when he throws it, it's become efficient. And one

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01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: thing I thought watching that last game is it took

1792
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: a minute, but I think they've sort of figured out

1793
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: everyone's roles at receiver, Like Dobbs does what Dobbs does,

1794
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: and he's really good at it. And Christian Watson is

1795
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: adding a lot of value and making big plays, and

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: he'll have one head scratching play a week for you,

1797
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: but otherwise he's really playing well. And then Jaden Reid

1798
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: is in the backfield with Jacobs. At least lately, they're

1799
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 1: playing two backs back there and it's Emmanuel Wilson and

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01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: Jacob's or it's reading Jacobs and Reid is is doing

1801
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: all sorts of crazy stuff. He's not usually carrying the ball,

1802
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: but they'll let him carry the ball a handful of

1803
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: times too. And so you're right, they just they throw

1804
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: so many things at you, and it's kind of like

1805
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: these young players they are growing up. They just happen

1806
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: to be in the best division I've ever seen, or

1807
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: else we talk about them even more.

1808
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 4: Right, Well, two two backs now he's back in the

1809
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 4: Shanahan Tree Patrick.

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01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, but.

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01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: It's two backs out a shotgun and one of them

1812
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: is a like a one hundred and seventy pound wide receiver.

1813
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: It's crazy on the Saints just for a second. Rattler

1814
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 1: And this is only like a local controversy, but there's

1815
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: like been conflicting reports. Arian Rapaport says Derek Carr is

1816
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: very unlikely to return this season. Right There were like

1817
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: a local report from Nick Underhill that said Carr was

1818
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 1: kind of pushing and checking with all these different specialists

1819
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: and thinks maybe he could return, And even the coaching

1820
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: staff said he could play this week. And I think

1821
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 1: it's unlikely, and maybe the coaching staff is just throwing

1822
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: that out there was like why would you go back

1823
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: to Derek Carr right now?

1824
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 2: Anyways?

1825
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: Like can't don't We want to take a look at

1826
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: this kid, Rattler. He did some fun things last week.

1827
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was talking to some folks past

1828
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 4: week and they're like, Spencer Ratler so talented. He just

1829
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 4: he's got to get his head wrapped around a lot

1830
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 4: of things with talent wise, that's somebody want to get

1831
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 4: reps and see if they can handle it.

1832
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: And Rizzi ball Man fun, We've got a five game sample,

1833
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: so if you're thinking about that fourteen point line there.

1834
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: We got a five point five game sample, and we

1835
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: have three wins out of Rizzie Ball, and we have

1836
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,679
Speaker 1: two other very competitive games against teams in the NFC

1837
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: that are right now in the playoffs, the Rams and

1838
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: the Commanders.

1839
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: So maybe that's a little high. Maybe Rizzie Ball keeps

1840
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 2: him close.

1841
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: We got Cam Jordan out there making a lot of

1842
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: plays our our podcast.

1843
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 3: NFL uh Davis looking great.

1844
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: Then yeah, let's go with significant injuries right on both sides.

1845
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: Right, so they're finding a way. I would stay away

1846
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: from that. I wouldn't.

1847
01:21:57,400 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to deal with the fortunate stress of

1848
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: a December twenty third Spencer Rattler situation. But I just

1849
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: stay away, stay away, Just chill with your family alone,

1850
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: enjoy it. That's it. That's it for our show today.

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01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: Wish Patrick you've done it again. Steve, no survivor picked though,

1852
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 1: no survivor pick.

1853
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: We didn't survive. That's why.

1854
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: Look, I don't think. I don't think Steve's with us

1855
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 1: next week. So when no, I'll but watch me on

1856
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 1: Netflix right when it's when it's the last Steve Weisch

1857
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 1: game before Christmas or podcast.

1858
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 2: You know football is back. Yeah, we'll see you next time.

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01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 2: Enjoy Christmas, Steve,