1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: They're not as good as they should be, but they're 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: not as bad as we sometimes think they are. That 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: is the simple fact of the Dodgers. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Good Thursday afternoon to you guys. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: Welcome to a brand new live edition of Dodgers Territory. 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: We are your hosts. That is my guy, Clint Pasius. 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: I am Alana Rizzo. We are so happy that you 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: are here, like us. Rate us five stars wherever you 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: get your podcasts and certainly on. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: The tube YouTube if you will. 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 3: Uh. Dodgers beat writer Jack Harris is going to be 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: joining us shortly. Happy to have him on the program 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: to discuss a variety of things. But Clint and I 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 3: are talking first with. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: The big ticket. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: All right, Clint, two months down, what we've seen isn't 18 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: quite what was advertised. I'm still buying what they're selling, 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: but it's a little bit of a different result, if 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: you will. Again, still in first place, Dodgers are still good. 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 3: But there's some holes. 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are some problems. I figured at this point 23 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: in time, it makes sense. It's the end of the 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: May and then got two more games in May. But 25 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: we'll we'll go ahead and call that Yankee series a 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: June series and seems like a good time to assess 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: this team. And I'll keep mind short, sweet simple here. Listen, 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: They're not as good as they should be, but they're 29 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: not as bad as we sometimes think they are. That 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: is the simple fact of the Dodgers. Like you said, 31 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: they are a first place team. They have a two 32 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: game lead in the National League West. Thankfully, the Padres 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: have slipped, the Giants haven't been as hot as they 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: were a little bit ago, so that is helping the 35 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: Dodgers stay in first place. But as we were talking 36 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: about in our most recent postgame show, it's just going 37 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: to take time for this team to get healthy, to 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: get right, to get some arms back, and then we 39 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: will see that dominant team, that four hundred billion dollars 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: payroll or whatever it is. We'll see them go back 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: to crushing every single team as opposed to having the 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: issues that we've seen, which have mostly been bullpen issues. 43 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: But what's your assessment of this ball club thus far? 44 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, to round out the division you mentioned the Padres 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 3: and the Giants, the Arizona Diamondbacks have scuffled their one 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: and seven in their last eight, and the Colorado Rockies 47 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: have not even had double digit wins as of late, 48 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: so really it's a three team, three horse race at 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: this point, the Dodgers still being the first horse in 50 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 3: that race. The biggest thing for me is over the 51 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: course of the first two months is the starters have 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: to go deeper into the games. That's the biggest thing 53 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: for me is that it's just you. This is not sustainable, right. 54 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 3: You cannot have guys going at minimum, they have. 55 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: To go five innings per game. 56 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 3: And I think that's the biggest thing for me is 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: I want them to try to go at least Remember 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: back in the day where guys would just go six 59 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: innings and then you would bring in your seventh inning guy, 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: your eighth inning guy, and your closer. 61 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: Long gone are those days. 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: But I would like to see some more inning the 63 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: olden days, remember the time back in my day. I 64 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: would like to see guys go deeper into ball games 65 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 3: because this is not sustainable, Clint, for this bullpen, We're 66 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: already down massive arms in this bullpen. 67 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this doesn't happen. 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: Ran and being out as killing us, Evan Phillips being 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: out as killing us, Alex Vesia hasn't been that great. 70 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: Tenor Scott just had the blown save koree eights, isn't there? 71 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a problem. As you look at 72 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: this graphic, this is unbelievable. This on X from the 73 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: athletic One hundred and two million dollars is on the 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: injured list right now, guys, more than the total payroll 75 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: of the teams that you see there. And Tyler glasnow 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: with his hand over his mouth, that's kind of how 77 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: I feel. So it's like, oh mg, oh my gosh. 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of talent. Again, we know when your 79 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: team is missing one hundred and two million dollars, and 80 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: that's what makes it Dodger so good is and it 81 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: upsets other teams around the league is that they can 82 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: have enough depth to be missing one hundred and two 83 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: million dollars worth of just pitchers and still have a 84 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: two game lead in the National League West. But it 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: has been a problem missing those starters. We've talked about 86 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: it ad nauseum. Not having Blake Snell. We talked to 87 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Mark Pryor about it that the expectation was he was 88 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: going to be a big time innings eater for this 89 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: ball club, and we're seeing all of the fallout with 90 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: that go into the bullpen. This one was great. This 91 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: one somebody posted on the Twitter mischigones. 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Yes, this is startling the high sun, Kim muse, this 93 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 3: is startling. All you can see is Anthony Bonda and 94 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: Ben Casparius and Alex Vessia. Everybody else has either been 95 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: sent to the moon, they've retired, or they're hurt. 96 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: They're hurt. Yeah, you have what Edgardo Henriquez going from. 97 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through all of them, but Henriquez, 98 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: Michael grob What, Blake Trining in there, Evan Phillips in there, 99 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: Bruce Dargraderal, all these dudes on the IL, Michael Kopek 100 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: on the IL. Of course, Danny Hudson retired, Joe Kelly. 101 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 1: We don't know the status of Joe Kelly, to be honest. 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: He says he wants to come back, but I don't 103 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: know how well his shoulder is doing. I don't know 104 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: if that's really going to be an option for them 105 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 1: at this point. But missing that many pieces from those 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: vaunted bullpen dogs. Hey, we need to sign a lota missing. 107 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: My dog is missing right now. 108 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: The bull dogs bullpen. 109 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: Dogs are missing too. And you know what's crazy is 110 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: we did that. We did have that conversation with Mark 111 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: Pryor the other day. I always love when the coaches 112 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: are willing to take some time to be with us, 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: and you know they are. We're paying the price for 114 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: last October. I mean a lot of guys were on 115 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 3: fumes last year, not just the pitchers, but also I 116 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: mean Freddy Freeman was playing with everything was broken, you know. 117 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 3: I mean, there's just a lot of things that were 118 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: going on in October. Obviously, they they got the ultimate prize, right, 119 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: they won the World Series. But now you're seeing what's 120 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: happening as a result of these guys. And again, nobody, 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 3: no one's going to feel sorry for the Los Angeles Dodgers, 122 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 3: especially the other twenty nine teams that are out there. 123 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 3: No one feels sorry for us. But the fact of 124 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: the matter is, I think it's going to wear on 125 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: this bullpen. So let's get some of the starters back 126 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: and get them deeper into ballgames. 127 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 128 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that goes a long way when you 129 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: have some of these dudes coming back and being healthy 130 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: and and that's one of the things we do want 131 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: to talk to Jack Harris about. He'll be joining us 132 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: in just a minute. 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What is your assessment of the first 161 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: two months. 162 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: I mean, they've been playing without the team they envisioned 163 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: that they would have, especially on the pitching side, and 164 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: I think that's why you've seen, you know, a lot 165 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: of primary issues kind of lead to secondary problems. The 166 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 4: lack of innings from the rotation, putting stress on the bullpen. 167 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: You've seen the lineup be under pressure to kind of 168 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 4: keep producing, you know, to help overcome some of these 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: pitching issues. So I think if you, if you were 170 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: to had told the team that, you know, you'd get 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 4: two starts out of Blake's now a couple starts out 172 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: of Tyler Glass now that Roki Sasaki would be injured 173 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: at this point of the year, and that you would 174 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 4: still be in first place, in twelve games about five 175 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 4: hundred or where they are right now, Like I think 176 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: they would have taken it, especially knowing that some of 177 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: those guys will come back. But at the same time, 178 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: you know, this was a team that was supposed to 179 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: have the kind of depth to where these things wouldn't 180 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: matter as much. And obviously, you know, when it comes 181 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: to pitching injuries, there's only so many guys you can 182 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 4: lose before even if you have other options that you like, 183 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: some of those some of those consequences start to add up. 184 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean, luckily with the depth of this team, that's 185 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: where they're able to find themselves still in first place, 186 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: two game lead and all that, but at some point 187 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: you do start running out of you know, bullets you 188 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: could fire here, and we're seeing the ramifications of all 189 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: the injuries definitely take its toll on that bullpen. Tough, 190 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: tough getaway day in Cleveland, Dave Roberts saying, you know, 191 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: we're not used to giving up games late in Tanner 192 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Scott finding his way to being not a fan favorite 193 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: in the early goes of the season, even if like 194 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: some of the advanced numbers are a little more favorable, 195 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: favorable than the era and the results. What's been the 196 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: biggest issue one for the bullpen, which we've kind of 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: already addressed, but also with Tanner Scott, would you say 198 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: your assessment right now is his job as the closer secure? 199 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: I mean, I think his job is the closure's okay 200 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 4: for right now, just because you know, there's not a 201 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 4: lot of other options that they have to turn to. 202 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: I think, you know, this this stuff has been okay. 203 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 4: His fastball has been playing down a little bit. That's 204 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 4: obviously not been helpful. But when you look at some 205 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: of these games that have gotten sideways on him, including 206 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 4: this one in Cleveland yesterday, the game in New York 207 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 4: on Friday, the recurring theme is he can get ahead 208 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: in the count, he can get guys to two strikes, 209 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: and he's making too many mistakes on pitches in those 210 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 4: situations that are over the plate. You know, I think 211 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 4: it's reflected in the fact that just the amount of 212 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: throws he's made in the zone this year are way 213 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: up compared to his career average. It's something that he 214 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: and the Dodge coaches said, you know, hasn't been by design. 215 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: So you know, the good news for the Dodgers is 216 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 4: that that's something that is. You know, it's not a 217 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: stuff thing, it's not a mechanics thing. It's more of 218 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: a just an executing pitches in the right locations in 219 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: the right situations that they're trying to get him to 220 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: do a little bit better. And yeah, I think with 221 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: the rest of the bullpen, you know, you're starting to 222 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: see some of the effects of a heavy workload. You know, 223 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: you're seeing guys like Luis Garcia even not be as 224 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 4: effective as he's had to pitch a lot. You saw 225 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: Kirby Yates go down after having to pitch a ton 226 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: early in the season, and you're seeing like every night, 227 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: even in these games that the Dodgers take leads, it's 228 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: a pretty delicate balancing act trying to get through those 229 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: final couple innings and then get Tanner Scott to close 230 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: the game down. So I think, overall, again like with 231 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: the rotation, when they get healthy, when they get the 232 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: arms back they were expecting to have at the start 233 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 4: of the season, it's going to be a different looking group. 234 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: But right now, the margin fererr is very fine, and 235 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: it's made the bad outings that some of these guys, 236 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: especially Tanner Scott has had just stick out that much more. 237 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like it's magnified because we're looking at 238 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: it so closely. Because of the two hundred names that 239 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: are on the il jack, who of those names are 240 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: coming back quickly, who's going to be back sooner rather 241 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 3: than later, and who do you think can make the 242 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: most impact on this roster of the guys that we 243 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: hope to get back soon? 244 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: You, Tyler Glass. Now, of the starters who are hurt, 245 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: is the one who seems to be furthest ahead. You know, 246 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: he got off of a mound while the Dodgers were 247 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: on this road trip. He's been kind of progressing steadily 248 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 4: since going down with his shoulder injury. Blake Snow not 249 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: far behind him. Roki Sasaki is starting a throwing progression 250 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: this week. That's a good sign for the Dodgers. And 251 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: then obviously have Shoheo Tani, who probably won't be back 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 4: in the rotation until after the All Star break. That's 253 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 4: the timeframe that Dave Roberts has targeted. But it's back 254 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 4: to throwing live vps and really kind of ramping up 255 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: going through those final checkboxes to get back to being 256 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: a full time two way player. So I think you know, 257 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: ideally within a month for the Dodgers, they're going to 258 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: have most of that core of the starting rotation back 259 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: in the way that they envisioned. But that assumes nobody 260 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: else gets hurt in the meantime. That assumes that, you know, 261 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 4: these guys don't have setbacks in their own recoveries, which 262 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: even with some of these situations we've seen. And then 263 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: in the bullpen, you know, Michael Kopek is getting close 264 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 4: to returning. He's finishing up a rehab assignment. Blake Trynan 265 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: and Kirby Yates are going through throwing progressions right now, 266 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: so they'll probably be back at some point in the 267 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: not too distant future. The only real concerning one is 268 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: Evan Phillips. When he first went down with this forearm thing, 269 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 4: you know, the Dodgers were very declarative. We only think 270 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: he's going to be fifteen days, you know, this one 271 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: we think is just a precautionary move. And now we're 272 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: three weeks past that point and he hasn't really gotten 273 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: back to starting anything throwing wise yet, and Dave Roberts 274 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 4: acknowledge it's a little concerning. So, you know, I think 275 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: on the whole, the good news is like they haven't 276 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: had any season ending injuries. They're still pretty confident that most, 277 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: if not all, these guys will be back with time 278 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: to kind of get back into rhythms later this season. 279 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 4: But again, until that actually happens, there's always other things 280 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: that could pop up in other ways, things can go wrong, 281 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 4: and given what the Dodgers have been through the last 282 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: couple of years, they're not I don't think they're ever 283 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: banking on some of these health situations to go perfectly. 284 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, of the many names you mentioned there that are 285 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: currently on the Dodgers mash unit or part of them, 286 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: Roki Sasaki, like you said, getting closer to throwing a 287 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: baseball again, picking up a baseball. You know, from our understanding, 288 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: his return might not be as leaniar as Hey. You know, 289 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: pick up baseball, get healthy, throw to hitters, return to 290 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: the rotation. Maybe a little bit of a detour kind 291 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: of getting more acclimated to Major League baseball and all 292 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: of that kind of stuff. I mean, we spoke with 293 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: Mark Pryor about it a little bit. A lot of 294 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: you could probably add more words that be more better 295 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: than I am saying with it. But Jack, in your 296 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: kind of opinion, what can you tell us or what 297 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: you know about it Roki's path back to the starting rotation. 298 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: They're going to kind of maybe put them through a 299 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: little bit of boo camp before he's back. 300 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what they're going to use this time 301 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 4: for is to try to get his delivery in a 302 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 4: place where he's executing his stuff and the way the 303 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 4: Dodgers thought he would. You know, he was going through 304 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: a shoulder thing, yes, but even from kind of early 305 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: in the season, the command was nowhere near I think 306 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: what the Dodgers were expecting it to look like. That 307 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: was a problem. Even going back to spring training obviously, 308 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: the huge fluctuations and his velocity were really problematic, especially 309 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 4: given that the way he throws his fastball, if it's 310 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: not in the upper nineties or one hundred mile an 311 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 4: hour range, it's a relatively easy pitch to hit. The splitter, 312 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 4: you know, is a really good pitch. He just wasn't 313 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 4: able to kind of put himself in situations to be 314 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: able to use it effectively to set it up very well. 315 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: And I think, you know, for the Dodgers right now, Yeah, 316 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: this can almost be seen for Roki Sasaki as like 317 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: a second start to the season where okay, let's see 318 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 4: if we can get his mechanics to be a little 319 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 4: more or consistent so his command can be a little 320 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: more consistent to his velocity, you know, isn't fluctuating as 321 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: much as we've seen. And you know, how quickly that 322 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: happens is going to depend on just kind of how 323 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: things look as he starts to build up, as he 324 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 4: starts to progress. And yeah, that's why you know, for him, 325 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: like you said, it's not exactly as linear as it 326 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: might be for some other guys, because as the Dodger said, 327 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 4: and as Roki Sasaki said when he first went on 328 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: the iol, you know, this is also an opportunity for 329 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: him to try to fix some of the things in 330 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: his throw that we're plaguing him, just beyond the shoulder 331 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: thing he was going through. So it's probably something that 332 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: you know, in a best case scenarios, he's a month 333 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: or so away from getting back, but if they have 334 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: to stretch it out a little bit more so that 335 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: he can continue to try to find a little bit 336 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: more consistency in his performance, I don't think they're going 337 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 4: to be afraid to do that, especially if they get 338 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: some other guys back to help with the depth. So 339 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: they still look at him as a long term play. 340 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: They're very confident about how his development will go. I 341 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 4: don't think they are quite surprised that there are some 342 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 4: of these bumps, just considering it is a twenty three 343 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: year old pitcher who hadn't thrown a lot in Japan, 344 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: but for this season, you know, there's a lot he's 345 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: going to have to improve on to be a guy 346 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 4: that the Dodgers can count on come to the playoffs. 347 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: And that's why they're going to take their time right 348 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: now to try to get him closer to that version 349 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 4: before they send him back out in big league action. 350 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Roki Sasaki just one of the arms Jack that's 351 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: on the IL one hundred and two million dollars on 352 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: the injured list, just in pitching. 353 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Alan. 354 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Dodgers' bullpen a bit. Do they 355 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: just hold serve in terms of waiting to get some 356 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 3: of these guys back in terms of the trade deadline, 357 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: or do they go out on the trade market and 358 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: try to find some bullpen arms. It seems like all 359 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: thirty teams could use it. 360 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think some of it depends just on how 361 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: things progress. Over the next couple months. Right, If you 362 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: can get Blake Tryning back at some point, if you 363 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: get Michael Kopek back, if you get Evan Phillips back, 364 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: and they're all pitching well, then that's probably less of 365 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: a need. If you can get Tanner Scott back to 366 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 4: the you thought he would be, if you can get 367 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: Alex Vesia to be a little more consistent and limit 368 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: some of the home run issues he's had, then you 369 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 4: probably feel good about that group. Obviously, you're gonna have 370 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: Bruce dar Grat are all coming back at some point too, 371 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 4: and you have a whole litany of younger starting pitchers 372 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: who could also, you know, step into bullpen rolls in 373 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 4: the same way Ben Casparius has. So I don't think 374 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 4: it's necessarily going to be a need, but it is 375 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 4: something that if some of those more established veteran guys 376 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 4: like it trying in, like Evan Phillips, like Tanner Scott, 377 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: either don't come back healthier or don't show some real 378 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: improvements in their performance, that is something I think the 379 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 4: Dodgers could look at at the deadline to try to bolster, 380 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 4: especially if there are some questions in the rotation. I 381 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: don't foresee them making a big splash to get a 382 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: starting pitcher this year. They just have too many options. 383 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 4: But if there's some uncertainty about how the rotation might 384 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: look in the long term, it makes bolstering the bullpen 385 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 4: that much more important. I mean, we saw it in 386 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: the postseason last year how much they had to lean 387 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: on that group to win a World Series. So time 388 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 4: will tell there. You know, Obviously, training for relievers at 389 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 4: the deadline is not the most economical thing to do 390 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 4: in the view of a lot of the Dodgers front 391 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: office officials, But at the same time, it's something they 392 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: have done before over the last couple of years and 393 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: have found some productive arms that have helped that group 394 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: in past season. So I don't think they want to 395 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 4: have to be in a position to be trying to, 396 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: you know, buy a bunch of pitching at the deadline. 397 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 4: But given the way the season's gone so far, it's 398 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: definitely a possibility at this. 399 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: Stage shifting gears from pitching, because surprisingly the Dodgers also 400 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: have offense, they have defense, they have other players on 401 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the field, and one of the guys entering the season 402 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: if we're talking about you know, the two month assessment 403 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: and experiments and all this, we got to talk Mookie 404 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: bets at shortstop. Of course, he just pennd tocoll Um. 405 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: I think today that dropped about Mookie and his transition 406 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: to shortstop. Despite the complaints for people on Twitter, he's 407 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: actually been pretty good at the position. And as you 408 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: wrote in the column, it seems like they're in no hurry. 409 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: The team is in no hurry to kind of pull 410 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: the ripcord like they did last year. So one, I 411 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: want to get your thoughts on Mooki as a shortstop. 412 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: And two, is there sort of a feeling that the 413 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: transition is maybe bleeding into the offensive numbers at the moment. 414 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, So to start with the defense, I think it's 415 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 4: beyond what anybody would have been expecting out of him 416 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 4: this year, even given the fact that he got the 417 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: whole winner to kind of work on some fundamentals hone 418 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: in his technique. You know, they were expecting him to 419 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 4: be better. But when you look right now, it kind 420 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: of how he grades out compared to a lot of 421 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: other shortstops around baseball. He's been one of the better 422 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: defensive shortstops legitimately in the league this year. That's not 423 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: to say that there still haven't been mistakes. It's not 424 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 4: to say there still haven't been you know, growing pains 425 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 4: and learning moments. You saw the flip play in New 426 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: York this week, You saw the ball in Cleveland the 427 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 4: other day that he couldn't get down before he came 428 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: back and got the double play. So there's still a 429 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: lot to for him to learn and grow at at 430 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 4: that position. Kind of the bet the Dodgers are making 431 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: right now is fundamentally he is sound enough that he's 432 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: not going to be a problem defensively when we get 433 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: to the postseason, especially considering if he's as good after 434 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: two months end of the year, you know, just imagine 435 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: how much more progress he can make over the next 436 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 4: four The bet is is that you know, you look 437 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 4: at that that flip play in New York the other day, 438 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 4: that's the kind of play that you know, Mookie Bets 439 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 4: had never really like experienced before, even in practice, because 440 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 4: it's just such an abnormal, atypical kind of thing to 441 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 4: try to do that. Until you actually experience it for 442 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 4: the first time and fail, you know, that's the only 443 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 4: way you're going to learn how to do it. And 444 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: the bet is that as he experiences more of those 445 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: kinds of things. He's going to get better. The next 446 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: time he gets a play like that, he's going to 447 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 4: know what to do. Even this week in Cleveland after 448 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: that game, you know, he was working on flip throws 449 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 4: with Chris Woodward and his pregame work. You know, I 450 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: think they're very confident that just the baseline of his 451 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 4: defense has gotten to the point that they can trust 452 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: it over the long term this year, and that with 453 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 4: more time, you know, he can you know, kind of 454 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 4: get to being more of a premier glove potentially at 455 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 4: the position, which is which is kind of crazy to 456 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 4: think about, you know, when you look back to just 457 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 4: kind of where he was last season. Now with the bat, 458 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: it is a question. Obviously, his numbers have been way down, 459 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 4: the quality of contact has been way down. Some of 460 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 4: this he believes stems back to the stomach virus he 461 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: had at the start of the season, the fact that 462 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 4: he developed some bad habits trying to regain bat speed 463 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 4: when he was coming back from that. He's already a 464 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 4: guy who with his swing, just given his stature and 465 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: his lack of you know, kind of physical tools strength wise, 466 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: like his swing has to be perfectly lined up for 467 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: him to be the kind of hitter he has been 468 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: for most of his career. So it's one of the 469 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: things like Dodger coaches are most impressed by when it 470 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: comes to bets is how consistently he can kind of 471 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 4: get his swing where it needs to be. The fact 472 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: that he hasn't been able to do that yet, yes, 473 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: has raised some questions about is the focus on shortstop 474 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 4: distracting him too much from that? I think an interesting 475 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: quote with like Freddie Freeman, he said, you know, yeah, 476 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 4: I mean it probably is a little bit for him, 477 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: Like we see how much he works at the shortstop position. 478 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: Like obviously it's gonna make it a little bit harder 479 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: for him to be the kind of offensive player he 480 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 4: wants to be. But you know, in Freeman's view, it's like, 481 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: once he gets the shortstop thing down, his bat's going 482 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: to come around. And I think that's kind of the 483 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: place the Dodgers are at right now. They're okay, they 484 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 4: can overcome the lack of production from his bat to 485 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: this point as long as it's you know, there's been 486 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 4: progress with the shortstop play defensively, and that in time 487 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 4: they still trust that, hey, this is still Mookie Bets, 488 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 4: he's eventually going to get it going again. And if 489 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: we get closer to the end of the season and 490 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: his bat still isn't there, and we need to take 491 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 4: another look maybe at pivoting out of this shortstop speer. 492 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: You know, they're not going to be afraid to do that, 493 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: and I think Mooki Bets will be open to that 494 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: if he feels like, you know, his shortstop play is 495 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 4: really harming his offense. I just don't think we're there yet. 496 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 4: I think the sample size is still a little bit 497 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 4: too small, and I think big picture, you know, the 498 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 4: way the Dodgers built this team, the best version of 499 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 4: it is probably with Mooki Bets at shortstop. If he's 500 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: playing shortstop really well and he's contributing with the bat, 501 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: and I think they still think that end goal is 502 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: realistic enough and that Mookie Bets's progress defensively has been 503 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: real enough that they're willing to kind of let this 504 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 4: play out over the course of the whole season, hoping 505 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: and confident that by the time they get to the playoffs, 506 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: they're going to have an impact that at the top 507 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: of the lineup and somebody they can trust to play 508 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: good shortstop defensively. 509 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: And let's remember that if Mooki Bets wasn't willing to 510 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: come into the infield and play shortstop, they would not 511 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: have been able to re sign Taoscar Hernandez, who everybody 512 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: was clamoring to make sure that they did resign before 513 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: we let you go, Jack, looking ahead to this weekend series, 514 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: I'm excited about it. Right it's a matchup of the 515 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: World Series of last year, twenty twenty four. What do 516 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 3: you think we can learn from this series of coming 517 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: perhaps for another potential matchup in October? And this is 518 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: very much a different Yankees team coming in. They're playing 519 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: really well right now. 520 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think, you know, learning It's tough to 521 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 4: kind of extrapolate anything the Dodgers are doing right now, 522 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: especially when you look at, you know, like the pitching 523 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: lineup they're gonna have this weekend is far different than 524 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 4: it might look for a potential World Series rematch. What 525 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious to see is just in a 526 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 4: at a kind of an interesting point of the season 527 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: for the Dodgers where they've just been kind of treading 528 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: water for a little while. Can they tap into I think, 529 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: especially with the lineup which has been somewhat up and 530 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: down in recent weeks. Can they tap into something and 531 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: what will be a very high profile series. You know, 532 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 4: obviously in a world series rematch like this, one is 533 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: going to feel a little different than your average late 534 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 4: May early June weekend three game set. And I'm curious 535 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 4: to see, you know, at the time that they could 536 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 4: really use a big series when a momentum building kind 537 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: of performance, if they can just raise their level of 538 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: play against what's going to be a really talented Yankees' 539 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 4: pitching staff. You know, I don't think that if they 540 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 4: lose the series, it's it's gonna be time to be 541 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 4: hitting you know, the panic button or anything like that. 542 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 4: I think obviously the Yankees are going to have some 543 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: extra motivation coming into this, not just because they lost 544 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: last October, but because of obviously some of the comments 545 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 4: that Dodger players made about their lack of fundamentals in 546 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 4: that series and all those sorts of different things. So 547 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: there are some rich subplots here. It's gonna be a 548 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 4: really interesting atmosphere, I'm sure these next three nights at 549 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: Dodger Stadium. But yeah, I'm I just you know, we've 550 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 4: seen so many times. This veteran Dodger lineup is kind 551 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 4: of able to turn it on when they need to 552 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: at various points, and it does feel like this week 553 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: it would be a really good time for them to 554 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: do that, to kind of maybe jump start something here 555 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 4: in the middle of this really tough stretch. So that's 556 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: the thing I'm gonna kind of be watching closest is 557 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 4: you know, can they stress somebody like Max Freed, you know, 558 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: can they get to this Yankee bullpen and can they 559 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 4: kind of build a weekend at the plate that allows 560 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: them to pick up what would be an impressive series win. 561 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to seeing the Yankees not drop baseballs. 562 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: We know they're better than what we saw last October. Jack, 563 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: we appreciate the time, guys, give them a follow That 564 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: is at by Jack Harris on the Twitter, of course, 565 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: writes for the La Times and host Dodgers debate here 566 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: on the YouTube. I always forget to mention that more 567 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: talking with you and Plashki and all those fine people, 568 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 1: But appreciate the time. And Alana, first, we'll be back. 569 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: We're going to listen to one more message from our 570 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: friends at foul Territory. 571 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 5: The weather is warming up and With that being said, 572 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 5: you need to check out what roeback is bringing to 573 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 5: the table. If you're a golfer, especially and you're looking 574 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 5: for golf shirts that just have the perfect style and 575 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: also are soft. They're lightweight and perfect for the summertime, 576 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: Roeback is the spot. 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I mean just learning her name. 587 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 3: She's learning commands. She's in a great foster home in 588 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 3: North Hollywood, California, but she needs a forever home. So 589 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 3: if you're interested in adopting Lolita, hit me up at 590 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 3: Gidrisguardian dot org or of course, on the social channels 591 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: at Alanaizzo on x and as well on Instagram. All right, Clint, 592 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: your baseball thought for the road. I'm looking forward to 593 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 3: this weekend. What do you need to see? 594 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see Dodgers. I want to see Yankee. 595 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: I want to see Yamamoto throw against the vaunted Yankees 596 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: pitcher TBD on Sunday. But it's it's gonna be a 597 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: fun series. You know, there's gonna be a lot of memes, 598 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of social media uh things 599 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: to make us laugh. But more importantly, a little bit 600 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: like Jack was saying, we're not going to learn a 601 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: whole lot from this series because it's May and they're 602 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna be two very different ball clubs by the time 603 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: we get to October. But the Yankees are a lot 604 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: better than the club we saw last year. Somehow they 605 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: got better without Swan Soda, which is insane, and Cody 606 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: Bellen coming back. 607 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: And without Garrett Cole that's insane too. Yeah, they got Yeah, 608 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 3: so Belly's coming back to town. Obviously, Paul Goldschmith's now on 609 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 3: the team. They got Devin Williams. 610 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: They got COLDI like what a find. 611 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 2: I mean, guy who sits. He's just super quiet. Nobody 612 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: talks about him because. 613 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: He's mute, but he's a ballplayer. 614 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 2: Greatly baggery. 615 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, So Tony Donsolin versus Max freed landon NAT going 616 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: up against Will Warren, Yoshinobu Young Moto versus TVD And 617 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 3: by the. 618 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: Way, big bet. 619 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Derek Lewandowski, who does a tremendous job on 620 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: Pinstripe Territory here on the Foul Territory platform, and you 621 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: and Derek are going to get together tonight on Pinstripe 622 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: Territory at six pm Pacific. He and I have a bet. 623 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: Massive Yankee fan of course, and he and I have 624 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: a bet. He's a big cat guy like Tony Gonsolin. 625 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: So if the Yankees win the series straight up series win, 626 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: I will donate one hundred dollars to his cat charity 627 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: of choice. Win the Dodgers win the series, he will 628 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: donate one hundred dollars to Guidry's Guardian Foundation to help 629 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: out the pups. So go Dodgers for a variety of reasons. Again, 630 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 3: Clint is on with Derek tonight Pinstripe Territory six pm Pacific, 631 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: and then Clint is also going to be on all 632 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: Dodgers with Clint Piscius at eight pm Pacific. So your 633 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: boy Clint Piscius is very busy. Yeah no, I mean 634 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: keep trying, buddy, keep trying. All right, guys, we appreciate 635 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: you being here. We love you very much. 636 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: Don't forget to like subscribe all of the things. 637 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: Check out Clint and Derek tonight, check out Clint after 638 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 3: that as well, and then we will be back on 639 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 3: a brand new episode on Monday. 640 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: See you, then go Dodgors. 641 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Bye.