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Speaker 1: I'm ghosted.

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Speaker 2: I guess that says, please, hey boo, it's me raz Okay.

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Speaker 2: I got a good old fashioned ghosted episode for you

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Speaker 2: today because I'm talking to someone that knows the shit.

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Speaker 2: I am talking to one of the leading paranormal investigators

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Speaker 2: in the field today from the TV show Kindred Spirits,

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Speaker 2: Adam Berry. Adam was on a couple months back with

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Speaker 2: Amy Bruney, who he co hosts the TV show Kindred

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Speaker 2: Spirits with, and I love them both. It's my first

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Speaker 2: time just having a chat with Adam by himself, and

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Speaker 2: he is very funny.

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Speaker 1: We had a great time and we talked about eBay dolls.

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Speaker 1: But I put that part on Patreon this week Patreon

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Speaker 1: dot com slash rasdrez fales link in the description of

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Speaker 1: this episode. And I'm also yeah, I'm still doing weekly

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Speaker 1: podcasts on there on my second tier, and I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this thing where who knows how long it's gonna last.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going in alphabetical order by American US states

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Speaker 1: and looking at the weirdness and paranormalness of each state,

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Speaker 1: and oh my god, it's really leading me to like

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Speaker 1: way more weirdness, like Alaska weird, Arizona freaky, deeky. So

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Speaker 1: it's been really fun and I'm learning a lot. So

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Speaker 1: you could go check that out if you want. I

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Also, my little ghost story thing that I told last week,

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Speaker 1: hold off just a little bit before I share much more,

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Speaker 1: just because like we're still seeing what shapes out. I

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Speaker 1: think it might be done. Ugh, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: it's just somebody who's just like trying to get your attention.

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Speaker 1: So I was right. I think I was right. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, nothing evil. But I'll have more to report,

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Speaker 1: I hope. If not, I'll just conclude it soon anyway.

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Speaker 1: Also, my email ghosted by ras at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how this happens. I guess somehow when

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Speaker 1: or whatever. There's so much junk mail. There's somebody named

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Speaker 1: it's that Steve Harvey, but like messaging me about car

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Speaker 1: That's not who's emailing me about insurance or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: There's just so much junk in there, so I apologize that,

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Speaker 1: me your ghost stories. The subject line I think helps

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Speaker 1: if you put like, if you have a story that

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Speaker 1: if you want to be in a listener episode, which

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Speaker 1: paranormal investigator Adam Barry on with the show. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: Adam Berry is back. Hello, Adam Barry.

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Speaker 4: I am here in the flesh, drinking my coffee, ready

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Speaker 3: All the tea.

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Speaker 1: How are you. The last time you were here was

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Speaker 4: We are looking for them, So I think investigating ghosts

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Speaker 4: I gotta be a ghost. He's got sixteen at horns.

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Speaker 1: Or was it the same old ghosts doing the same

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Speaker 4: Never is, Look, it's never the same all. If it

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Speaker 1: It's like they got to reinvent themselves. They're like Share, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, so do you believe that they're

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Speaker 4: I don't know why, for some reason, they existed in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, happens to all of us.

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Speaker 4: There's good and there's evil, right, there's both, there's good,

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Speaker 1: No, people love to see people hot in demons on TV.

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Speaker 1: But I really, the more that I have talked to

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Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't believe a lay person or

437
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: someone who's not actively in that world all the time

438
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 4: is going to experience something like that, If that makes sense. Yeah,

439
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 4: that's my theory or my opinion, just my opinion. Well,

440
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty impressive that you've never encountered one.

441
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 4: With all of you, I've encountered that pretend to be.

442
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 4: I think I've encountered things that might lead you know,

443
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 4: we're checking a few boxes about what to expect, but

444
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: I don't think I definitely haven't uh gone full demon

445
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 4: full out there.

446
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: You know.

447
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: So do people die and then they for whatever reason

448
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: become a ghost and then they're just like out of

449
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: boredom or out of fun or why, like what they're

450
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,160
Speaker 1: just like I'm a demon and.

451
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: No, I mean, oh pretending to be. I think people

452
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 4: just I think I think people.

453
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: I don't know.

454
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: I've encountered spirits that act as if they just act

455
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 4: really razy and mean and aggressive. And you can see

456
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: that and experience that and be like, oh, yeah, it's

457
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 4: a demon, you know, like your first thought is like, oh,

458
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: it's a demon, right, but really it's just a person

459
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 4: being an absolute jerkwise.

460
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 1: But like sometimes you know these EVPs where they're like

461
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 1: growling or whatever. So I'm like picturing like is it

462
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: just some like mad man that died and he's just

463
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: like trying to like mess with you.

464
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: Sometimes yeah, sometimes you know, just somebody and then you

465
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 4: can get we don't know how they communicate through EVP.

466
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 4: We don't know how it how how hard it is,

467
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 4: or if it takes a lot to do that. So

468
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 4: sometimes what they say can be confusing because you're like,

469
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 4: I don't it sounds really gruff and gravelly, But like

470
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: what if that's just the energy being expelled from whatever

471
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 4: they're doing to try to communicate and you misrepresented as

472
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 4: a demon and then you start throwing holy water around

473
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 4: and bring out your crosses and that guy that goes

474
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 4: it's like, eh, good lord, No I did not.

475
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: I just needs to smoke a lot, Like don't my

476
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: voice isn't a demon, it's just really deep and gravelly.

477
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like I just needed a break. I

478
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: just I just wanted.

479
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: To let you know that you know, uh, my tombstone

480
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 4: is wrong or like there's a there's a mold in

481
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: the attic or whatever it is.

482
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's like.

483
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: Who knows they're trying to do good?

484
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 2: Well?

485
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: I was curious about just like general just some general

486
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: topics of the paranormal. I was curious your thoughts on them.

487
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what you think about wijaboards.

488
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 4: I have but a few Wiji boards. I have two

489
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: right here sitting in these boxes.

490
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: Wijiboards are they're not to mell.

491
00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: No, they're the demons. No, see, No, they're definitely we

492
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: have we have debunked that. I have time after time,

493
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: like had so many people on this podcast that like,

494
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: this is a not it's not a demon toy podcast.

495
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no.

496
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: The Buiji boards are something that was created, you know,

497
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 4: a long time ago, and it was really a way

498
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 4: for people to get close to each other in the dark.

499
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: It was a parlor game.

500
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 4: Hasbro bought it and turned it into basically a children's game.

501
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 4: And it wasn't until the seventies that Hollywood sort of

502
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: took the idea of the weigi board and created it

503
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: and made it into this like.

504
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: Portal to demonic whatever.

505
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 4: So when people are like, Biji boards are bad, weije

506
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: boards are terrible. Like you never hear somebody say, you know,

507
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 4: I was forty years old and completely sober and hanging

508
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: with my friends and we decided to use the Ouiji

509
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: board in this crazy, crazy shit happened. It's more like

510
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: I was a kid and my grandmother's have We found

511
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 4: it in the attic and we started using it, and

512
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 4: this crazy stuff happened.

513
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Right.

514
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: And you know, there is a thing called the idiomotor effect,

515
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: which is a real thing. If you are blindfolded and

516
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: your four people are blindfolded and they have their hands

517
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: on the planchet, the Luiji.

518
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: Board will not work. It will not work.

519
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 4: Somebody in that group is unknowingly moving the planchet to

520
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: make words, but they just don't know that they are

521
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 4: doing it.

522
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: We tried doing that one time one of my live shows.

523
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: People were blindfolded on stage doing it and it was

524
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: like going all in all directions, not forming any sentences.

525
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I if you believe that you

526
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: can communicate with ghosts or by using that piece of equipment,

527
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: then it is the same concept of you like holding.

528
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: A recorder or.

529
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: You know, using any sort of other paranormal equipment. Because

530
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: the idea is I'm going to use this device to

531
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: communicate with ghosts. Sure, if you believe that it works,

532
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: use it to communicate with ghosts. But it's not going

533
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 4: to open up some magical portal if that were the case, girl,

534
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: do you realize how many wigi boards are made and

535
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 4: are out there?

536
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: Do you know how many weird demonic.

537
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 4: Forces would just be like trapesing around like there would

538
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: be another you know, minority group of individuals you know,

539
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: looking to vote, like there would be so many of

540
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 4: them it doesn't make any sense.

541
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: So when people say to me, I need to get

542
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: rid of my wigi board? How do I get rid

543
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: of it?

544
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, you may send it directly to me, especially

545
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 4: if it's.

546
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: Old, vintage, worth money.

547
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: Send it on over because I will take very good

548
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: care of it and put it in my collection.

549
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered one that has some kind of

550
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: energy attached to it?

551
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 3: I do have a story.

552
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 4: So there is a I have a weichi board over here.

553
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: If I can pull it out, I letna see if

554
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 4: I can pull it out for you. First off, let

555
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 4: me get my giant Dhali tarot out of the Ooh,

556
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 4: isn't that the most beautiful packaging you've ever seen?

557
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: Gorgeous?

558
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: Look?

559
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Are you a tarot person?

560
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: Oh? Ben?

561
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 4: My husband collects tarot cards cool and he'll use them

562
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 4: every once in a while. And uh, he has, like,

563
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, sixty decks.

564
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: Whoa, he's got sixty decks.

565
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Decks, sixty.

566
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: Sixty decks. He has sixty decks. Guy, Each one's very

567
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: different from the last. So I have these two boards

568
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: just like casually chilling.

569
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 4: Right, they're both they're both the same board, but they

570
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 4: are from a different, different time period.

571
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: One of them, this one's older.

572
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 4: This one was found in an attic and the lady said,

573
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 4: I don't want it, Can you have it?

574
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: And I said yes, But this board. So this board specifically,

575
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: it's a bit.

576
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: The William Nifold. That's like mid century kind of right.

577
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like nineteen fifties, sixties. You can tell by these,

578
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: you know, these little classic I don't know, white people

579
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: so diversity, some people from the fifties on the back,

580
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: I know you can tell.

581
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm sorry, that is some white people shit

582
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: to be like, let's go conjure up some demons.

583
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: I know.

584
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: She's like, you know, let's have a let's have some

585
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: fruitcake and sit around in bobby socks and contra demon.

586
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: So this board specifically, I was at an.

587
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: Antique store in Provincetown where I live. I used to go.

588
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: It does no longer longer exist.

589
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: But I used to go in there and like just

590
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 4: walk around and say, got me weird stuff? And he

591
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: knew that I was always looking for like weird, out

592
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: of this world things, and so I showed up one

593
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: day and I was like, hey, you got me weird things?

594
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: And he said, no, I don't, not today, and I

595
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: was like okay. So I like turn away from the

596
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: counter and I look at the shelves and there's one

597
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: section of shelves that are completely empty. Because it's a

598
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: consignment store, so when someone rents out that shelf section,

599
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: then they will, you know whatever, they'll put their stuff

600
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 4: in it.

601
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: But there was nothing on the shelves. I exit, I

602
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: go to the back of the store.

603
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 4: I peep around a bit, and I didn't find anything.

604
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 4: So I decided that I'm going to leave. And as

605
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 4: I'm leaving and passing the empty shelves again, the only

606
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: thing sitting on any of.

607
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: The shelves is this Oiji board by itself.

608
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 4: It was not there like five minutes prior, just sitting casually,

609
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 4: and so I was like, huh, I took it. The

610
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 4: only thing in on six shelves, The only thing and

611
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: I turned to the front desk.

612
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: Guy and I was like, six seco six. I turned

613
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 3: to the front desk guy and I said, hey, where

614
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: did this come from?

615
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 4: And he goes, oh, I don't know. And I was like, well,

616
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: it was sitting here and it was not here. I

617
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: just did somebody put it there? So he was like,

618
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 4: I didn't see anybody.

619
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I actually don't know where that came from.

620
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: I have not seen it in the shop.

621
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Did it have a price tag?

622
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: It did not.

623
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: And I said, well, guess what is mine? And so

624
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 4: he I think I paid I don't know twenty bucks.

625
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: What I just materialize.

626
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's the thing. I do not know

627
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: the answer.

628
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: It was not there five minutes prior to me finding it,

629
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 4: and he had no recollection of it showing up.

630
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: Or being there.

631
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 4: And clearly I was like, oh, well it's going home

632
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 4: with me. Like there was no hesitation. I was like, well,

633
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: it's gonna come home with me. There's a reason why

634
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 4: this is in front of me and sitting here. And

635
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: so I bought it and I've had it for I don't.

636
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: Know, three or four years. But that's a weird story.

637
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 3: I mean, out of nowhere.

638
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Does it ever reappear in places in your home? Maybe

639
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't. You don't notice that.

640
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean if it look it's been Could you

641
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: say this again? I couldn't hear what you said.

642
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: Okay, that was I'm sorry. That was my Apple Watch.

643
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: That is saying sorry, I didn't hear you. Could you

644
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: say that again? My apologies. I was not talking about

645
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 4: Apple Watch, was I did I say anything?

646
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: Not that I heard. I think about the wig aboard

647
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: said something and it activated it.

648
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I think it was demons.

649
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: You found a demon episode over clothes, waites. Look at

650
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: I have little wee jab plan chat earrings.

651
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love that.

652
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: I have a my friend made me or sells these,

653
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: this plan chet and it literally just says girl by

654
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 4: on it, and so I wear it like to formal events.

655
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 3: I put it on and just says girl bye.

656
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

657
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: Anyway, I don't know. Now my place is cursed. I

658
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 4: guess haunted because my watch is going off and talking

659
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: to me. I have not moved that Wuiji board in

660
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 4: a very very long time, and I just told it

661
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 4: story and now it's got something to say.

662
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: So I'll let you know.

663
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Of haunted dolls. You know that's my Haunted dolls are

664
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: my favorite thing in the world.

665
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: I love haunted dolls.

666
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 4: I think it's hard to determine whether a doll is haunted,

667
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: but I think my favorite thing is like when you

668
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 4: see a creepy looking doll in a vintage store, there's

669
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: something about it. Sometimes you're like, I feel a connection

670
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 4: to this doll, right, and you're like, I need to

671
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 4: take care of this doll.

672
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: I need to take this doll home.

673
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 4: And I think that's bizarre but also really really cool, because.

674
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Have you done that.

675
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: I've seen things in stores, yeah, like weird, vintagey, creepy

676
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: looking things where I'm like, hmm, I feel like that

677
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 4: should come home with me. But I don't try to

678
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 4: look into it too much. I just feel like I'm

679
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: destined to have it, so I'm gonna, you know, I'm

680
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: going to take it with me kind of thing. I

681
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: know that Greg and Dana k Newkirk, who we all

682
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: love in a door.

683
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: They have a doll that when you pick it up,

684
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 3: you can just like pick it up normal.

685
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 4: But the longer that you hold it, the more you

686
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: start treating it as if.

687
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: It were a real child.

688
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 4: Unknowingly, like you just start like cradling it and like

689
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: burn like rocking it and like hold You're not just

690
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: like holding it by the arm. You sort of become

691
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 4: this doll's caretaker for the time being. And they've seen it,

692
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 4: they put it, they bring their museum, and they have

693
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: the museum and they it happens all the time, which

694
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: is very strange.

695
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: Have you encountered I mean, like, besides that one, have

696
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: you encountered like a full on haunted doll.

697
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: I mean not to the point where not to like

698
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 3: I guess I've encountered a lot of haunted dolls where

699
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: people like this doll is a haunted doll.

700
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 4: Uh huh, right, And I've encountered a lot of dolls

701
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 4: that I'm like, that thing is weird, weird vibe, right,

702
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 4: But I don't think I've encountered something where I have

703
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 4: had problems, if you will, because you know, people are.

704
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 3: Like this doll moves on its own or like it it.

705
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: Like I think Amy Brunei, who I work with on

706
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 4: kinder Spirits, she has a story about a doll trying

707
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 4: to set fire to her closet. I'm like, that's never happened, uh,

708
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: But I have definitely encountered dolls that give off weird

709
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: ass vibes. And you bet believe I'm gonna take it

710
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: home if I can take it home, if I'm allowed,

711
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: because you know, every.

712
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 3: Haunted doll needs a loving and caring family.

713
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to eBay looking at hunted dolls?

714
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: I have?

715
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: How can you? Oh? How do you know? If it's

716
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 3: really hard?

717
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: They say it's real? I know it means it's real,

718
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: adam or all?

719
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: Let me wait a second.

720
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: So that's how this works.

721
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: This is a Victorian tear catcher.

722
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: Back in the day, in the eighteen hundreds, you would

723
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: catch your tears in it after somebody dies, and when

724
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: it fills up to the top, you are no longer

725
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: in mourning.

726
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: This is haunted.

727
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: Is it's no, it's not.

728
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: You would gonna you believed it just because I was, like,

729
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 4: it's haunted.

730
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 3: But it's not haunted, Like anyone can say anything, is?

731
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: I mean? This is really cool.

732
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 4: It's got it carried the tears of the you know morning,

733
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: do you cry into it?

734
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Only only on the weekends.

735
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: Well, let's do a couple more quick little things here.

736
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about some more, some more thoughts

737
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: on things like, Okay, I've been really into talking about

738
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: Bigfoot lately. What do you think.

739
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 4: I think Bigfoot is definitely something that could possibly exist.

740
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

741
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 3: I don't know what it would be.

742
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 4: I like the idea that, you know, some people say

743
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: Bigfoot is just the ghost of Neanderthal.

744
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: That's interesting to me. Some people say bigfoots an alien.

745
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: Some people think Bigfoot's an actual, like you know, creature

746
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: that sort of like wanders.

747
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, if you believe in ghosts,

748
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 4: you sort of have to believe in everything just a

749
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 4: little bit, like everything else, just a little bit.

750
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 3: Like you can't be like, oh.

751
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: I believe I believe that someone has died and their

752
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 4: spirit is sitting in front of me and can talk

753
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: to me and move objects.

754
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,919
Speaker 3: But Bigfoot, Nah, that's too much. You can't. I don't think.

755
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: I don't think you can do that.

756
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 4: I think, you know, you have to believe in everything

757
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: just a little bit. Because there are reasons why people

758
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: think Bigfoot exists, just like locked nest, just like aliens,

759
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: just like gnomes and trolls and metaphysical creatures. There are

760
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 4: stories that date, you know, centuries, thousands of years about

761
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: different things wandering the earth, and so I think there

762
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 4: is something to it and.

763
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: We all have to be open to it just a

764
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: little bit. Would you ever go, uh? Did you ever go? Look?

765
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: For now? I hate the great outdoors.

766
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: Sorry, no amount of mosquito netting or spraying will ticks snakes.

767
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with any of it.

768
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: I will encourage people, I will watch it, I will

769
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: tune in, but I so I'm not going.

770
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 4: So we're gonna go, and we're gonna film it, and

771
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 4: we're going to put it up on the YouTube.

772
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: It would be really fun. It would probably be fun

773
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: to watch me do it. It wouldn't be fun to

774
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: go with me, because I would constantly be like, I'd

775
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: be afraid of things that aren't big fun. But I'm

776
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: just constantly like, I struggle with Bigfoot because, Okay, I

777
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: do think that if it is real, it's a ghost.

778
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Right this is my is where I'm at right now,

779
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: and I'm constantly changing my mind. But right now I

780
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: think if it's real, it's a ghost. I think that

781
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: when I see videos that people have captured a bigfoot,

782
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't believe it. I for the most part,

783
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. I feel like it's something else

784
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: because you can't capture ghosts that well on camera.

785
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you have a healthy skepticism, which is good.

786
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,479
Speaker 4: I mean, in all things paranormal and supernatural and weird,

787
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: we should have a healthy skepticism.

788
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone.

789
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 4: I mean, do I think someone's ever caught big like

790
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 4: Bigfoot on camera in a picture?

791
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna say. I know, I know.

792
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: I This is what I was just saying, and I've

793
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: already had people misconstrue what I'm saying because you know,

794
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: you always see videos of hunters. I don't I'm not

795
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: saying people should shoot Bigfoot, which may or may not

796
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: be a real thing to begin with. So before we

797
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: start debating that, I don't think people should. But all

798
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that if I had a gun in

799
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: my hand, I would feel really confident to go up

800
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: to it and be able to take a picture with

801
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: it with a selfie yeah, or or follow it home.

802
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: I would stalk it, Sorry, I would, just because at

803
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: this point, to prove that it's real, I would I

804
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: would cross boundaries and I would stalk it and go

805
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: to its home and wait outside it's home for it

806
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: to come back out.

807
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what people do, though. People literally

808
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: are doing that. They are going and they're like, oh,

809
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: this is a bigfoot track, and they're trying to track

810
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 4: bigfoot back to wherever bigfoot is going. Right, people are

811
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 4: doing They're out there doing those kind of things.

812
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: But I wonder if so, You've got people that are

813
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: really into.

814
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: Bigfoot, right, they are one thousand percent on board with

815
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 4: the Bigfoot.

816
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: They think they've seen it, They've got a picture that

817
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 3: they got a bigfoot.

818
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: I wonder if they feel the same way I do

819
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 4: about ghosts, in the sense that I can show you

820
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: evidence of ghosts all day long and be like, yep,

821
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 4: that's something else I caught, something else I caught. But

822
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 4: if you don't believe me, I do not care, because

823
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 4: I'm beyond caring that you don't believe in ghosts, specifically

824
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 4: because I've seen it, I've interacted with them, I know it.

825
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: Here's evidence of it all day long. I can show

826
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: it to you, but I'm not in the business of convincing.

827
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 3: You that it is that they're real.

828
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 4: And I'm wondering if bigfoot people feel the same way,

829
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: like they're not in. They're not in the business of

830
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 4: convincing you because they know it exists and they've got

831
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: evidence and they're just now exploring it a bit deeper.

832
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: Do you believe in aliens?

833
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, DEMI said that we're supposed to

834
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: call them extraterrestrials, So I don't call them aliens anymore.

835
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: I'm so. I constantly they would know, they would know,

836
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: they wouldn't know.

837
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: I will say, do I believe in Yes, I do

838
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: believe in aliens. I think I don't know what they are.

839
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't know where they're from.

840
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: Have you ever been abducted?

841
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: It's my dream, but it hasn't happened yet.

842
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: Come visit me and I'll take you on a I'll

843
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: take you on a thing. What do you mean, I'm

844
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: gonna take you on a got a hook up? Yeah,

845
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: I'll get I would just call them up and be like,

846
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: come to the ship. No.

847
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 4: So where in Provenstown, Massachusetts, where I live, there is

848
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: an abandoned Air Force base in Truro. And in Truro

849
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 4: there were when that was an operating Air Force base,

850
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 4: there were tons and tons of abductions.

851
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: This is one of.

852
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 4: The biggest areas for alien abduction. Besides, you know Nevada

853
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 4: at this point in my opinion, and like this painting

854
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 4: that you see, like this painting right here, this painting

855
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 4: right here, that painting up there. I have like twenty

856
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: seven different works by this artist named Bud Hopkins, and

857
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: he is he was abducted by aliens here in Provincetown

858
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: and then wrote like the first four books on alien abduction.

859
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: One is called Missing Time.

860
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 3: Girl. I'll take you out to this Air Force base.

861
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 3: We will go to a spot where.

862
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: You can lay on the ground and you just watch

863
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: stars sort of go in circles and like move in

864
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: on themselves and then dart away weirdly, like they don't.

865
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: They're not stars, they're not playing.

866
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: I saw that in Cnona. I went on like a

867
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: thing and I saw that for myself like with night

868
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: vision goggles, and it was that was cool. But yeah,

869
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, if shit goes down again, like I hope

870
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: nothing bad ever happens in our lifetime, like a pandemic

871
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: or anything, but if it does, I'm calling Andrea Parent.

872
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm packing a bag and I'm I'm getting Andrea Parent

873
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: and I'm going up And I've decided that my job

874
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 1: is going to be doing makeup for yeah, for them

875
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: so that they can they can pass as humans better

876
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 1: when they come down here.

877
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to hide that foreheadline. I mean, their

878
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 4: hairline is probably totally way back.

879
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Here, which is easy. It's easy to work with.

880
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 3: You need to pull the wig dick exactly.

881
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's much. Yeah, that's that's not hard.

882
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 4: We got that they're gonna need like a tin lash

883
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 4: for the big eyes.

884
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: They're gonna need a bunch of lash like lash on,

885
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: lash on. We'll just like lay them next to each

886
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: other exactly exactly. I mean, I love Andrea.

887
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 4: She has freaked me out a couple of times about

888
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 4: about her alien interaction. She definitely called uh she I've

889
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 4: seen her call actual ships.

890
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: Like all of a sudden, they'll just be like this

891
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: little dot in the sky. You're like, where did that

892
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: come from?

893
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: It was not there and it is not a plane,

894
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 4: and and you just sort of called them.

895
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,479
Speaker 3: Andrea, we know the weirdest people.

896
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm obsessed. Wait, oh my god, I just thought

897
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: of something. You want to hear some EVPs? Yeah, I'll

898
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: try to listen. I'll try to listen very closely. It's

899
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: time for EVP or evase. Okay, So honestly, the last

900
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: time I did this with you, you're like the only

901
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: person in history to ever be like, wait, I need

902
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: context and I'm like, no, we don't do contexts here.

903
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: We just hear voices and then made.

904
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: I know.

905
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it. I think it's great, But to me,

906
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: I'm always like, I always get weird when I have

907
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: on people that are like professionals, because I don't want

908
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: I just take these off of YouTube. I don't want

909
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: the people that posted them on YouTube to like feel

910
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: like we're making fun of them or something because they are.

911
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: Well. No, here's the thing that you. You are in

912
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: this world.

913
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: Now you are in the genre, and what you have

914
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: to understand is people, we have to scrutinize evidence.

915
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 3: We have to be tough on evidence. We have to

916
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 3: be because the more tough, the tougher you are on.

917
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 4: A piece of evidence. And you can't figure it out,

918
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: then there's something to it. If you can figure it out,

919
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: throw it away. There are thousands of other things that

920
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: you can look for. So don't do not Yeah, do

921
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 4: not feel bad. I mean, these people on YouTube need

922
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: to have their evidence scrutinized so that they can do better.

923
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: But also I think the ones that I find typically

924
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: I think are pretty good great, assuming that they're real,

925
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: I think that they're pretty good. It's just it's also

926
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: hard over zoom. So I'll give them that first one.

927
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't have a location for it. It is just

928
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: a ghost voice that was captured by haunted bay Town.

929
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: Love it?

930
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go. What is this ghost saying? Wait,

931
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 1: let me do it again?

932
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 3: Taking a piss?

933
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: There's definitely a lot of background noise, but it's like

934
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: said there, like it's like say something again. Oh yeah,

935
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: sit down, sit down. It does sound like that down,

936
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: sit down. Okay, that's not what they believed. We're gonna

937
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: guess now what they believed it said? Is it A

938
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: you're so tired? Damn?

939
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: Is it B?

940
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes?

941
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: Is it C?

942
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: So tell her? Or d ooh saltines?

943
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: Okay one more time.

944
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: So tell her. It's definitely so tell her. But sit

945
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: down with a good gus It down.

946
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: Is a good get without knowing. But see, here's the

947
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: one thing that I love. I want everyone to think

948
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 4: about this. So when we play EVPs for clients that

949
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 4: we get, we don't tell them what it says. We'd

950
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 4: let them tell us what they say, and if they

951
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: how much more cool is it for someone who doesn't

952
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: know the EVP to hear it and go, oh, that's

953
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 4: just sit down or so tell her right totally?

954
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: And you didn't tell them because it goes, oh yeah,

955
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: we all heard the same thing. You hear it.

956
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: The second you tell somebody it says sit down, of

957
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 4: course they're gonna hear it.

958
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: That's why I'd like to not give too much context,

959
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Like if I know, if it says on YouTube, like

960
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: after we asked what's your name, it said Veronica, Like

961
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't usually say until after we've lien to him.

962
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Then I'll be like, yeah, they asked what the name

963
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: was and they said Veronica. I just want to know

964
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: if you can hear, no, that's it. I mean I

965
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: definitely hear. I definitely hear what they what they say.

966
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: It's so tell her what teller?

967
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: What were they telling her?

968
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: Just tell her? Okay, well we're gonna do one more

969
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: about it.

970
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 3: Tell her everything you see.

971
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Okay, we don't have the licensing for that, so there

972
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: was less than it was less than ten seconds. Okay.

973
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: Next one is the Hampshire Ghost Club. I'm assuming it's Hampshire,

974
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: the Hampshire Ghost Club, which is a it's at a

975
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: haunted theater in Is it Hampshire or Hampshire UK. God,

976
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: you've traveled more than me. I don't know Anythingshire, Hampshire, Hampshire.

977
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: We're going with Hampshire, Old Hampshire. Okay, Uh, what is

978
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: this one saying?

979
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 3: Oh one more time?

980
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: It's a creepy whisper.

981
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard, has an accent, has a British accent.

982
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear that, which is awesome.

983
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: Uh, has a British accent. I hear that.

984
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what it's sang, but I hear the accent,

985
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 4: which is cool in and of itself.

986
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 3: Because sometimes you're like, you don't even hear that.

987
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'll give you some options.

988
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: Please.

989
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: Is it a cam model? Maybe it was a cam model?

990
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: Could be Is it b cam on? Is it c

991
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: kill them all? Or is it d Okay? I'm more

992
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: like with a tongue row, tongue roll.

993
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: Look, as much as I wanted to be wait, what

994
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: as much as I wanted to be kill them all

995
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: or cam model? Let me hear it one more time?

996
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 4: I mean kill them all.

997
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: It's come on, cam on, wait, let's do it again. Oh, Kim, Kim,

998
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: see I hear okay, I more more.

999
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: Like I do hear the rolling R. But like, what

1000
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: if it's saying kmore? Okay, what did that could that be?

1001
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: That's like, okay love, that's what I think. That's what

1002
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: I hear personally.

1003
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 3: I think it's saying k more.

1004
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, it's a ghost who is kind of sassy,

1005
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 4: like okay.

1006
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: Love, okay love whatever love.

1007
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: Love is love, okay love. I love that.

1008
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 4: See those two, those two EVPs that you've shown me,

1009
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 4: I like, and I mean sometimes it's fun to listen

1010
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 4: to them out of context because you can't really overthink it.

1011
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 3: But I like it.

1012
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's too definitely something somebody's saying, as

1013
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 4: long as everyone in the room has been accounted for.

1014
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: That's a cool that those are EVPs.

1015
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: Yes, you heard it here first from an expert. Well,

1016
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, I guess we can just wrap it up.

1017
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: I know, okay, I know, unless there's anything else that

1018
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: we I mean, of course, there's a million things we

1019
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: could also talk about, but I'm sure I don't want

1020
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: to take up all your time you've got things to do,

1021
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 1: you're traveling, you're doing, you're going on where you're going.

1022
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: I so this weekend going to well, it's probably won't air.

1023
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: I already aired, but this weekend going to Ohio.

1024
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: For the Ohio State Reformatory conn there's like a convention there.

1025
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 4: And then in June we will be at Belvoir Winery

1026
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 4: for Strange Escapes. I will be at the Sheboygan Asylum

1027
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 4: at the beginning of July, and then we go on

1028
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 4: a Strange Escapes European Ghost cruise in July, leaving out

1029
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 4: of Southampton, doing two ports in Spain, two ports in Paris.

1030
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 4: I think the catacombs are involved, stone hinges involved, So

1031
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,479
Speaker 4: that's I'm looking forward to that for sure.

1032
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: That is so cool, I know.

1033
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 4: And if anybody wants, you know, to hang out with

1034
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: us or to find out where we are, you can

1035
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 4: visit my website Adam Berry Adam dash excuse me, Adam

1036
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 4: Dashbury dot.

1037
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: Com to see where we're gonna be.

1038
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 4: And I had this cute little hoodie that says haunted life.

1039
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: This embroidered cuteness tell people where to get your stuff, so.

1040
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: You can get adamburrymerch dot com you can get this

1041
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 4: cute little haunted life zip and I've got a ghost

1042
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 4: T shirt and hats and magazines and tote bags and

1043
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: all kinds of fun, fun things, you know that I

1044
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 4: just throw out there and see if somebody want.

1045
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I love it. I wear it all the time.

1046
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: Super cute, it's comfortable, it's pandemic. Were I love it?

1047
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: Wait when you go to wait, what's the I say,

1048
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm always like I never know the exact word, like

1049
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: haunted mental health facilities, like you know, like so many

1050
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: of them are like lunatic asylump like whatever the wording is.

1051
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: But when you go to those, what is what do

1052
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: you notice about that kind of activity? Is it different?

1053
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I assume it's much different from other places.

1054
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Depending on where you are, it can seem chaotic,

1055
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: very chaotic, sporadic uh no patterns specifically sometimes very agitate

1056
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: like you'll hear like bang bang bang bang, or like

1057
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 3: you'll hear I think one day we heard somebody that

1058
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: sounded as if somebody was walking down the hallway towards

1059
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 3: us dragging their foot. It was like a step dreg ew.

1060
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 4: That's not a kind of drag, but like no no, no, no, dear,

1061
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 4: but it's it's it's very much the activity in a

1062
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: mental facility is very much the activity you would expect.

1063
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 4: It's confusing, disorienting, uh, sometimes very loud and quick, and

1064
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 4: then it stops. And that's why when we investigate specifically

1065
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 4: these locations, we have to be very sympathetic.

1066
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: You know. I know there are a lot of people

1067
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 3: that go in.

1068
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: And be like, if you don't talk to us, we're

1069
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: gonna get the warden or get them whatever. And if

1070
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: I were a spirit in that still having that sort

1071
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 4: of mental issue, I would not talk to you if

1072
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 4: you were threatening me.

1073
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: So you have to be.

1074
00:58:55,080 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 4: Very very calm and like sort of give yourself over

1075
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: to whatever is going to happen so that they your

1076
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: energy matches the comfort level that they need to interact

1077
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: with you, because it can be very crazy.

1078
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: I feel like literally sometimes when I watch shows where

1079
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: they go to those places, I've noticed like some kind

1080
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: of creature lives there. Now it's turned into some kind

1081
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: of monster in the building, Like what has that happen?

1082
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: Like for you?

1083
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: Okay, there are a few places that we've gone where

1084
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 4: we feel that there is something that's controlling the environment,

1085
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: like specifically, I think trans Alganny lunatic asylum is one

1086
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 4: of those places where you're trying to get information and

1087
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 4: get these spirits to interact with you. But it seems

1088
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 4: as if there is something bigger and more powerful than

1089
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 4: these spirits, watching what they do and controlling what they

1090
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: can and cannot do. And when I imagine that that

1091
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 4: thing in my brain, it it is sort of this

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01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 4: weird in human creature manifestation that sort of controls the ponds,

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01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: being the inmate, the you know, the patients that are

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01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 4: still there, goes back to an agrigor or a tulpa

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 4: or things that are energetically created that never exist, uh,

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01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 4: which we've encountered on kindred spirits. It reminds me of

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 4: that kind of thing, like there is something here that's

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01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 4: a bit more powerful in controlling than everybody else. Uh

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01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 4: but it but it's easy to control because it's never

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01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 4: existed before.

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01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 3: If that makes sense, Broll. That's a whole new podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting because it's like these these things, you know,

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01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,959
Speaker 1: thought forms, whatever people want to call them, that never

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: were a human. So it's almost like, are you saying

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01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: that it's so it's easier to since it's kind of

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01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: like a story created. These are many stories you can

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01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: almost rewrite the story.

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: Is that true hundred percent?

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01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: Like when we did the investigation with Zombie Boy, which

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01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 4: is they said there was this little boy here, and

1111
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 4: we realized that he was created, that that never happened.

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01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 4: We sat down for a very long time and gave

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01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: him attributes. We said how he died, We said who

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01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 4: his father was, We said his father died in the

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01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 4: Civil War. We gave him all these things, and we

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: sat across from each other and just talked about what we.

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01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 3: Knew about Zombie Boy.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, twenty four hours later, Chip Coffee,

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01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 4: our psychic that we work with, is picking up.

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Speaker 3: He's like, what's the Civil War? What does civil war

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01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 3: have to do with it?

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01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: You know, he was psychically getting information from this tulpa,

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01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 4: this agrigor that we had given like we it was us.

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01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 4: It was us giving them attributes, and it was like

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01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 4: answering questions about what their mother's name was, and how

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: many sisters he had.

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01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: And all this stuff.

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01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 4: So that in that same token, you can reverse it

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01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 4: by not communicating with them or not interacting with them,

1130
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 4: or saying you don't exist.

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 3: You don't know who you are. You're not who I'm

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01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 3: looking for to talk to.

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01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's like reverse, it just reversing the It

1134
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 4: takes a while, but you're just basically reversing the.

1135
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: You know, the storyline.

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: Interesting which I think also Bigfoot is sort of something

1137
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: like that.

1138
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 3: Look Bigfoot.

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01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if there are any kids listening,

1140
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: but there's Bigfoot.

1141
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 3: Like Santa Claus is real.

1142
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: Santa Claus is real if you think of it that way,

1143
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: Like, really, well, yeah, there's a lot of energy going

1145
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: into talking about Santa Goal.

1146
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: So then how many things are out they're like that.

1147
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: On the negative side, the Boogeyman, the Black Eyed Children,

1148
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 4: the Candy.

1149
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: Man, the Easter Bundy. You know how messed up that

1150
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: could be.

1151
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: Well, my scariest one, since I don't like being interrupted

1152
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: when I'm sleeping, is the tooth Fairy. Oh my god,

1153
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: lady coming in my room looking for my old crusty teeth.

1154
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: Now, But you know what, it wouldn't It wouldn't look

1155
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: like a lady.

1156
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 4: It would look like a conglomerate mashup of what everyone thinks.

1157
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 3: The tooth Fairy looks like so it'd.

1158
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 4: Be all deformed and messed up, with like half hanging

1159
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: off like wings and like hair, and like it would

1160
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 4: be messed up because it's just a conglomerate of what

1161
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 4: everyone thinks the tooth Fairy is in.

1162
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 3: Their own way.

1163
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: Oh that is messed up.

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 3: Sleep well, eh.

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01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully I won't lose any teeth anytime soon at

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01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: this point. Thank you so much to Adam. If you

1167
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: want to hear us talking about a haunted eBay doll,

1168
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: go to patreon dot com slash rozdresfles link in the description,

1169
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: and hey, rate the show five stars on Apple Podcasts

1170
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: or Spotify or wherever you can leave a nice review,

1171
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: tell me how much you love the show, or leave

1172
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 1: a ghost story and a review. You could follow me

1173
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 1: on social media at roz Hernandez on Instagram, at It's

1174
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: roz Hernandez, on TikTok and Twitter, and we have a

1175
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Facebook group called Ghosted by Roz Hernandez. And yeah, that's

1176
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: about it. I love y' all, both living and dead.

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01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

1178
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: haunt me. Hey back.

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