1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: My guest today is Ben Ferguson. 3 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Ben is host of the Ben Ferguson Podcast and co 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: host of Verdict podcast. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: With Ted Cruz. Hi, Ben, so nice to have you on. 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: So good to be here, and like I get to 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: talk about life today and not so much politics. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 4: This is like a this is the best break ever. 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: This is what this is all about. 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: You know, we bring you on and we don't ask 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: you what you thought about what Donald Trump said today. 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: It actually confuses some people. They don't know how to 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: get off that, like thinking where they. 14 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: Have to carry around news? Yeah, yeah, exactly. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: So your bio actually leaves out something very important, which 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: is you are known for schooling the libs in your 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: CNN appearances. 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: That's that is that is true. That is a hard 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: fought battle for seven years. 20 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: I call it that. 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: I was there fighting the Commis, and I enjoyed not 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: every minute of it. 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. 24 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: There's things that I would totally take out, like the 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 3: ridiculous amount of death threats, for example, Like we could 26 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: leave that. How did you deal with Don Lemon on 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: almost a nightly basis. I would love to be able 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: just to get rid of that as well. 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: So how did you become the guy that argues with 30 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the liberals on CNN? 31 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: How did you get to do this thing of ours? 32 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: No, So I started in radio when I was twelve 34 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: by accident, and then I started in TV when I 35 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: was seventeen. The pitch was actually funny. It was a 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: guy calls and he's like, hey, I'm the producer of 37 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 3: this TV show. It's not available for you to watch 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: in Memphis yet on cable. This is the real pitch, 39 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: and he said, He goes, Anyway, the host that's really dynamic. 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 3: He is the former host of Inside Edition. Now, if 41 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: you're real astute, you're gonna know who I'm talking about 42 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: with that tidbit. 43 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: He goes. 44 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: So the show's called The O'Reilly Factor and the host 45 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: is Bill O'Reilly. 46 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: Would you come on? 47 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: And so Bill O'Reilly hosted Inside Editions. Yes, I know that. 48 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 4: So that was the pitch. 49 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: They were not pitching Fox at that point because Fox 50 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: had just become a thing, and they were right. They 51 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: sent me my first appearance on Bill o'reiley show on 52 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: a beta tape. I kid you not so I had 53 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: to find someone with a beta player to even play 54 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 3: the appearance when I was seventeen. 55 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 4: On a ship. 56 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: How did they find you? 57 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: They'd see me on CNN an a clip that had 58 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: gone viral. 59 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: Really wow, Yeah, and so yeah, it was really funny. 60 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: And his politically astute question, which I give him hell 61 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: about every time I talk to him. He comes on 62 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: my show like every year when he has his new 63 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: best seller that comes out, you know, around Christmas. And 64 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: his first question he asked me was after I asked me, 65 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: by the way, do your friends think you're a dork? 66 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: And I'm like seriously, like that's what you're gonna come 67 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: out And I'm like. 68 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: No, they actually think you're a dork? 69 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. 70 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: And he's like, no, no, but do they think you're 71 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 3: kind of a dork like you talk politics. I'm like, well, 72 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: I also played basketball or the varsity team, and I 73 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: played tennis. I'm gonna go play in college. Like, but yeah, 74 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: that was my That was my first big question for 75 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: a guy named Bill O'Reilly. So if you've never watched 76 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: the clip, have you ever seen the clip where Bill goes, 77 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 3: We're gonna. 78 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Do it live f it? Yeah? 79 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, go back and watch a clip that is 80 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: on the set of Insideition that was not at Fox. 81 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no circle for you care full full circuit. 82 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I've already learned a lot and we 83 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: just kicked this off amazing. 84 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: So you've always wanted to do this. 85 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: This was I mean, since you were basically a child, 86 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: I was there even a plan? B, Like, what were 87 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: you thinking? 88 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 3: So I started when I was twelve. I'll tell you 89 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: that story very quickly. My mom was listening to talk radio. 90 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: Now this is before talk radio stations were mainly conservative talking. 91 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: It was just new Rush. 92 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Limball was new and there was a station in Memphis 93 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: and it was a smrgsborga shows there was a liberal 94 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: from the city council, there was another liberal from the 95 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: county commission, and like the mayor had a show, and 96 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: it was just kind of like they were figuring out 97 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: what talk radio was. And a lot of people don't 98 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: realize this, Like there were stations in America where Limball 99 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: and Howard Stern were on the same station. 100 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: Wo no, it's crazy. 101 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 3: So I was twelve and in nineteen ninety three, ninety 102 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: four or they were talking about the school lunch program. 103 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: I was in the back seat. My mom was listening, 104 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: and Richard Getpart held up a bottle of ketchup. 105 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: It was a famous moment, and he said, is this 106 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: what the Republicans are going to call a vegetable? 107 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: Now? 108 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: Now, I didn't understand Republican or Democrat. Then I just 109 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: understood right and wrong. And I said to my mom. 110 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: I was like, Mom, there's no way somebody would do 111 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: that to kids. And she was a school teacher, so 112 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: her thing was, yes, this is away for him to learn. 113 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: She goes, well, why don't you find out if you're right? 114 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: So I called our congressman at the time, a guy 115 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: named Ed Bryant, his local office. I asked if they 116 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: could send me the bill in Memphis, in membhisency. Yeah, 117 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: And so they sent me a copy of the bill 118 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: with a fed exit action my dad's office on that 119 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: old roll paper, the old roll fax paper did so. 120 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like a scroll right. 121 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 3: So I like literally read the whole bill and I 122 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: found out that what Richard get Part the Democrats were 123 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 3: calling a cut was the difference between Republicans. They want 124 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: to increase school lunch funding by three point six percent 125 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: and the Democrats wanted it by four point one. Both 126 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 3: were increases, but Democrats are calling the difference between the 127 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: three point six and the four point one a cut, 128 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: even though they're both increasing it significantly right in the 129 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: cost of living increase. And so I read it and 130 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: I asked my mom. I said, can I call into 131 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 3: this lady's show? 132 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 2: Wow? 133 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: She said yes, and so this is the next day. 134 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 4: So I called. I was on hold. 135 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: She finally put me on the air and I said, 136 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: to the lady, your name was Jennis fully Love and 137 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: I said she's a city council member and I said, ma'am, 138 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: I said, I just want to call and I think 139 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: you need to apologize to your audience for lying to 140 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: them yesterday. And she started yelling at me, Well, don't 141 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: yell at a kid whose voice hasn't changed. It just 142 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: sounds bad. It's just like life advice one oh one, Like, 143 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: just don't. And I said to her, I said, have 144 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: you read the bill? And she said no, no one 145 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: reads the bill. And I said, well, that's also a lie. 146 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: I read the bill, and maybe before you on the 147 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: radio and act like you're an expert, you should probably read. 148 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: The bill now. 149 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: And then it was it was a fun moment but 150 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 3: like I was doing a respectful way. I wasn't there 151 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: to be a jerk, Like it was just honest raw 152 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: back and forth, and I read the bill part to 153 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: her and basically schooled her. 154 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: I didn't even know what that meant. And another show 155 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: heard it. 156 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 3: They put they played that audio clip on their show 157 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: that afternoon and they said, if anyone knows who this 158 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 3: Bend kid is, tell all them we're talking about him, 159 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: and please call in. My parents' phone started blowing up 160 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: the landline at home, people that were hearing this. I 161 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: called into that show. They interviewed me and asked if 162 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 3: I'd ever seen a radio studio. 163 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: I said no. They asked me to come down the 164 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: next day. I did. 165 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 3: The phone lines were jammed when I was there and 166 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: I was just be on for fifteen minutes. Ended up 167 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: being on for about an hour and a half, and 168 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: they said, could you come back tomorrow? I said, I 169 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 3: have to ask my parents. Dur in the minute, I 170 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: went outside, so my parents said yes. I came back 171 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: the next day, and then a week later I came 172 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: back again. 173 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: They hired me a week after that. And the rest, 174 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: as they say, is. 175 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: His hat is incredible. 176 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did, and I never really thought I 177 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: was going to do this. I actually so I played 178 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 3: tennis in college and I was convinced I was going 179 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: to go pro in tennis, Like that was my If 180 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 3: you asked me what. 181 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 4: Was my dream, that was my dream. And then in. 182 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 3: Twenty gosh, what was that twenty two thousand and three, 183 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: HarperCollins and Simon Schuster had reached out about me writing 184 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 3: a book I was doing on a TV. Then I 185 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: was still in college, so I didn't play tennis anymore. 186 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 3: I wrote a book going my senior the summer, going 187 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: into my senior year, took a semester off, wrote a book, 188 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: and then went straight to the Bush campaign and O 189 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 3: four and then to DC White House Access. 190 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard stories about people starting young, but 191 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: this is like really young. 192 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was young. It was young. 193 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: So I laughed now because we're like, man, you're having 194 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: a good career, and I'm like, i'd hope. So I've 195 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: been doing it for forty years almost, but I feel 196 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: like I'm ready. 197 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 4: On retirement for party. So yeah, I'm like I'm ready 198 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 4: for retirement. 199 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: Like i feel like I've been working longer than my 200 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: adult life literally, right. 201 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: So were your parents political at all? 202 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: No, like not at all, like I mean, no more 203 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: than anybody else. 204 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: Like it was not like a point. I mean it 205 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 4: was truly. 206 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: I would say, God, thing that she happened to be 207 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: listening to day that I was paying attention in the 208 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: back of the car. And then what I fell in 209 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: love with was I always love to talk and I 210 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 3: like to have an opinion, and radio was the great 211 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: way for someone younger to have an opinion and be 212 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: taken seriously based on the words you're saying, not based 213 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: on your appearance, because if it was on TV or 214 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: in person, like what do you know, kid, go play 215 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: with your friends the playground. But I could have an 216 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: opinion on the radio and people would actually listen to 217 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: me and what I was saying and judge me on 218 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 3: my words, not based on my looks or appearance of 219 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: being a kid. 220 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: So are you still thinking about a second career in tennis? No? 221 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish that would be amazing. I've finally given 222 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: it up now. I had a lot of friends I 223 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: was very blessed that made it under the pro tour. 224 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 3: I got to live vicariously through them for years and 225 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: go to tournaments and watch them most of them have 226 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: now all retired. 227 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: I've got a couple of friends. 228 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: Who's actually one of my friends little brothers is in 229 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: the semifinals at the Alsian Open right now in doubles, 230 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: Christian Harrison from from down in Florida. 231 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: So if you it's a really cool story. 232 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: You had a bunch of surgeries, bunch of injuries and 233 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: kind of his last chance at it and is now 234 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: ranked top ten in the world in doubles. 235 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 4: So like, I still hold on a little bit to 236 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: you know, those types. 237 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: But most of my friends now are commentators on ESPN 238 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: or Tennis channel. 239 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: So that's when you know you're getting old. 240 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. 241 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: You know, Buck Sexton had a whole thing where he 242 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: was going to hit one hundred mile an hour tennis. 243 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: I was instrumental. Yeah he did go to use your 244 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: legs and he did it. Yeah, no, he did it 245 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: exactly right. 246 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I think if Buck Sexton can, you know, wake up 247 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: one day and hit a hundred mile an hour tennis ball, I. 248 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: Think it's not too late for that tennis career. 249 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Not get rid of you, you know exactly just you've 250 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: been doing You've been doing this a. 251 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: While, you know, when everybody says, like, what are you 252 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: going to do when you retire? 253 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: So my like when when radio and. 254 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: TV and commentating got so toxic, and I was at 255 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 3: CNN at the end. It was when Bush his first term, 256 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: Trump's first term was going on. I've been there seven years. 257 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: I actually just wanted something to get away from the 258 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: political world. So I love barbecue and from memhasis I 259 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: started a barbecue restaurant. 260 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 2: Oh wow, and see Erry Memphis. 261 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, because if you can't make it Memphis, you can't 262 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 4: make it right. It's the best in the world. 263 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 3: And so I had a gun range, gun store, and 264 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: a barbecue restaurant all under one roof. 265 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: So where do you find the time? 266 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 4: What? 267 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 3: It was awesome And so I had that for that 268 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: for four plus years. Sold that last January. But then 269 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: I opened with one of my best friends another one 270 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: called Blue Suede Barbecue in Pinehurst. 271 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 4: Go on it. 272 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: So it's really cool north Kel excuse me, So yeah, 273 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: it's really uh yeah, I'm still in that. 274 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: It's just a way food brings people together. 275 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 3: And it was a great outlet for me just to 276 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 3: not be in such a toxic environment where it was 277 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: just it had gotten so nasty being at CNN and 278 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: everybody hating on you and yelling at you every day, 279 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: at your racist homophobe, all the name calling. You know how, 280 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: it was right, and so that was my outlet. So 281 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: I look like you enjoyed that. 282 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: I love. 283 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, there's nothing more fun than cooking for people, 284 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: because politics doesn't matter. 285 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 4: When you cook, it's either good for. 286 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: I meant you enjoyed being called all those names. 287 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 3: Oh ye, yeah, yeah, exactly. You have to get numb 288 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: to it at some point, that's for sure. But there's 289 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: also just a fatigue. I think it was just such 290 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: a pressure cooker. Then it's better now, Like you know, 291 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: you look at Scott Jennings, for example, a good friend 292 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 3: of mine. He's now a hero of the right. But 293 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: when I was there, people were yelling at me, you're 294 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: fake news for. 295 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: Being on, for being on. 296 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: And now it's changed where it's like you're a hero 297 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: for going there and fighting the Commis, And so that's nice. 298 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: I tell Scott, I'm like, dude, I warmed it up 299 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: for you for seven years. 300 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 2: You really did. 301 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I took all the hell. 302 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: Now you're the hero, Like I feel like I needed 303 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 3: ten percent from your career earnings. 304 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: Now, I think that's fair. 305 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 4: Really, you're right, exactly, how did you. 306 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: Get into doing a show with Ted Cruz? Were you 307 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: just natural like fit together? 308 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: No. 309 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: So he started that show originally with Michael Knowles, who's 310 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: a good friend over at the Daily Wire, and they 311 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: were doing it once a week, and they wanted to 312 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: expand it and make it like kind of bigger, and 313 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: they needed there to be more days to grow it, 314 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: and so I was approached and asked about it. 315 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: I live in Houston. 316 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: I've known Ted for Kosh a long time since he 317 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 3: ran for Senate his first time around against David Dewhurst, 318 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: and so I was doing mornings in Dallas at that time. 319 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: We got to know each other. 320 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 3: I ice bucket challenged him, for example, and accepted, I mean, 321 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: that's how far back we go. And so, yeah, so 322 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: I've witnessed him throw a bucket of water that was 323 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: freezing cold on him. 324 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: I enjoyed every moment of that. 325 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 3: And so we had a meeting and a conversation and 326 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 3: they wanted to expand it, and so we talked and 327 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: it ended up working out where we've been able to 328 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: do the show three days a week now. It's really 329 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: a big priority of his. We do it on video, 330 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: which also makes it really fun. And now we've gotten 331 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: into a radio show where it's syndicated around the country as. 332 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: Well on a bunch of of We're. 333 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: On over two innerstations around the country as well on 334 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: the weekend. So it just kind of grew. I mean, 335 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: he's one of my best friends. We spent a ton 336 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 3: of time together. I mean five six. 337 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: Hours a week. That's a lot of time. 338 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so yeah, I enjoy moment of it. 339 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: Is it specifically on legal topics? Like I've listened to 340 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: your show today, I have to admit. 341 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: I haven't heard the verdict, even though Ted Bruce has 342 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: been on this show, which I really I have to 343 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: rectify that. 344 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I know a guy, we can 345 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 3: probably make that happen. You can work on that. No, 346 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: it We talk, honestly a lot about politics, but from 347 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: a very different perspective, like what's happening in DC, what's 348 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: happening in the hearings, what's happening in the in the 349 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: at the Republican Senate luncheon that they have every week, 350 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: what are they talking about with confirmation hearings? It really 351 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 3: kind of takes you behind the curtain. It's I call 352 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: it the Wizard of Oz moment where instead of hearing 353 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, anonymous sources and speculation, you're really getting like 354 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 3: the facts. Like we were able to talk about confirmation 355 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: hearings in a way that no one else was because 356 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: he's voting on it and he's in the committee, and 357 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: he's like, this one's gonna work. Like when they were 358 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: saying that, you know, Pete Headset, for example, may not 359 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: make it. 360 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: That was a great example. 361 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: Cash Fortell, He's like, no, he's gonna make it. Like okay, 362 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: like I had zero worries because he's in the room. 363 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 3: He's like, no, he's going to make it. Like I'm 364 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: not worried about this one. Let's move on to the 365 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: next one, you know. And it's cool because we get 366 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: to have conversations, like early on we had Elon Musk 367 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: on for over an hour wow at the White House 368 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 3: in his office in the EOB, the DOJ office, talking 369 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: about all the corruption he had found. And so that's 370 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: one of the big perks of it is, you know, 371 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: when Senator Cruz asked you to come on, you're probably 372 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 3: gonna say yes. And we've got to have some really 373 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: fun and big conversations. Some aren't even political. Like we 374 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: had Bruce Pearl, who's the former basketball coach as you 375 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: know Tennessee and then ended his career at Auburn, and 376 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: he's talking about the nil but he's also Jewish and 377 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: he was talking a lot about what's going on in Israel. 378 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: And so that's one of those really fun episodes that 379 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: is not I say it's non political. It's more of 380 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: a human being having a conversation talking about what makes someone. 381 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: Like that tick. 382 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: I love human beings having conversations. That's what it's all about. 383 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it really is. 384 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and be right 385 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: back on the Carol Markowitz Show. 386 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: What are you most proud of in your life? 387 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: I mean, no doubt my boys, how old. I've got 388 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: three boys. I've got a nine year old and twins 389 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: that are six about to be seven, and they're the 390 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 3: most fun. I mean, I love what I do. I 391 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: absolutely love being a dad. It's it is no doubt. 392 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: I would say my number one priority. I've said, notice 393 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: some really cool things and not thought twice about saying 394 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: no to spend time with them. I think in life 395 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: it's funny I have friends or dads. You either love 396 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 3: it and embrace it or you kind of don't. I 397 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: don't see a lot in between. And like I wanted 398 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: to be a dad I had. 399 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 4: I was lucky. 400 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: I grew up with a dad that loved being a 401 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: dad as well and was very present, and so that 402 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: was kind of my goal is to be the same thing. 403 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: And they love sports, so that also makes it really 404 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: easy to spend time together. Like one of my sons 405 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: has been ranked as high as second in the world 406 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 3: in golf, and my six year old is ranked seventh 407 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: in the world right. 408 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: Now in golf. 409 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: In golf. 410 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they're kind of they're kind of freaks. 411 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: They beat their dad. It's very annoying to hear your 412 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: six year old and nine year old trash talk you 413 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: and then they can back it up. But it's fun 414 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 3: to watch. So I get to caddy for them. They 415 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 3: get to go to tournaments all over the country. They 416 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: get invited to go to tournaments all over the world. 417 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: We just don't travel internationally yet because they're nine and six, 418 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: and that's insane. 419 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: To me, but it's cool. They get invited, so you 420 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: gotta take them. You got Yeah, they. 421 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: Get free stuff sent their house, so like I try 422 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: still some of their golf balls that get sent in 423 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: things like that, which is. 424 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: Pretty fun awesome, that is so cool. 425 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Do you show them like videos of Ben Ferguson owns 426 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: libs on CNN, like you know, right. 427 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's funny. What they care about is hilarious. 428 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: Like they'll watch sometimes for like three or four minutes 429 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: and then they're done, they move on. But there's like 430 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 3: little things that are fun. So my oldest he got 431 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: sponsored by Adidas, and that was like a full circle 432 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: moment because I was sponsored by Ideas for like, I 433 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: don't know, four or five years. 434 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: Crazy these playing young kids sponsored by Adidas. You have 435 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: a radio show when you're twelve, Like I know, I 436 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: feel like. 437 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: Such a loser. 438 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: Please start them young. But like that was a moment 439 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: where I told my son. I was like, look, I'm 440 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: not going to pull any strings. You gotta earn it. 441 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: Whatever comes comes. And so the guy with the deals 442 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: was like, hey, we'd love to, you know, help them 443 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: with shoes and gear. 444 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, well now that you're asking. 445 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: And then I sent him a picture of me at 446 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: a national tournament with my coaches all wearing our ideas 447 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: stuff from you know, thirty years ago, and that was 448 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: a cool moment. Like when things like that, Like I 449 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: do think the cool thing is they have they work 450 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 3: really hard and they love it, and that's kind of 451 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 3: when you see that DNA. Like I had to work 452 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 3: extremely hard to play college tennis and put in ridiculous hours. 453 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't fast. 454 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: I always have struggled with my weight and so like 455 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: I've had to, like I just had to work really 456 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 3: hard on speed and agility to even like hang. And 457 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: it's fun to see them not struggle with as many 458 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 3: things and just get to watch them perform. 459 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 4: So it's pretty. 460 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: Awesome, awesome, really really cool. 461 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: Give us a five year out prediction, could be about 462 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: anything at all. 463 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: I think AI is gonna change the world. I think 464 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: five years from now, I think probably for the better. 465 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be growing pains of job sectors 466 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: where jobs are lost, but there's always been that. I 467 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: mean manufacturing is a great example of that and different 468 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: things that have changed in this country. 469 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of it. 470 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: I think you embrace it, and I think there's always 471 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: gonna you're still gonna need human beings. But I do 472 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: think I'm still amazed by this stupid thing in my hand, 473 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 3: Like we're all walking around with a super computer in 474 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 3: our hands just insane to me, Like the amount of 475 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 3: knowledge that we have, the amount of information that we 476 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: have for me is just like I'm still in awe. 477 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: I think we take it for granted, like what you 478 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: have in your hand, and like so I think AI 479 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 3: is going to just fundamentally change things. I think it's 480 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: gonna do amazing work in the medical field. I was 481 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: talking about a CEO the other day. He said he 482 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: believes AI will save more lives than all doctors in 483 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 3: history combined. And he said because what AI can connect 484 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: dots and can connect symptoms and connect family histories and 485 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 3: tell you what to look for. He said, when we 486 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: get it down where we can basically load in your 487 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: medical history, your family's medical history, your blood work, and 488 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: different things that have happened, and be able to see 489 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: what you're at risk of and then what these doctors 490 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: can really look for. He was saying, it's going to 491 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: totally revolutionize medicine. He also thinks we'll be able to 492 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: cure cancer and things like that because of AI and 493 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: things that we may not have even seen are different 494 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: treatments that can work and how fast it can help 495 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: people around the world. 496 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: So I think probably five years. I am. 497 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 3: I'm up to every technology has always been used for 498 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: evil too. I'm a realist in that I don't think 499 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 3: you stop technology or stop learning because of fear. I 500 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: think you're gonna have limitations. I think there's gonna be 501 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: bad things that happen because of AI. I have no 502 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 3: doubt about it. But I also think the upside of it. 503 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: I think there's more good people in the world than bad. 504 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: That's part of like, I have faith in humanity that 505 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 3: we're going to be okay. 506 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: I love that, Ben. This has been so much fun. 507 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: I have loved getting to know you more. Really one 508 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes because Wow, did I not know 509 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: enough about you before this started. 510 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: You're sweet. Thank you for having me on. I was 511 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: so excited. 512 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: Leave us here with your best tip for my listeners 513 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: on how they can improve their lives. 514 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: If spend time with your friends and with your family. 515 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 3: Put this stupid thing down, that's supercomputer down. It makes 516 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: me so sad to see how many lives have been 517 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 3: ruined in families and relationships because you go out to 518 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: dinner and you see four. 519 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 4: People at the table doing this worst. Yeah, I hate it. 520 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: One of my favorite things. 521 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: I challenge people to do this so you see how 522 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 3: addicted you are to your phone. Is go to dinner 523 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: with your friends and everybody put their phone in the middle 524 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 3: of the table, and the first person look at their 525 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: phone has to pay for dinner. And you will realize 526 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 3: how addicted you are to checking the buzz and the 527 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: ping and the ding, and how unpresent you are with 528 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 3: your friends and with your family. Like I would challenge 529 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: people to do that. I think you know for me, 530 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: just being present and spending time with your family and 531 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: your friends. 532 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 4: You don't know what it's over. 533 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: I've lost a couple of friends to suicide, unfortunately, dear friends. 534 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: One of them was my college roommate. One was one 535 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: of my dear friends that was It was a public case. 536 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: It was a PG to our golfer. He's a dear 537 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: friend of mine, Grace and Murray that took his own 538 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: life a little over a year ago now, and I well, 539 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: thank you. But I challenge people to not take your 540 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: kids for granted, not take your friends for granted. Ask 541 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: them the tough questions, how are you doing? And mean 542 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: it when you ask it. Be cheerleaders for your people, 543 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 3: show up for your people. I try to be really 544 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 3: present with my kids. I started to spend quality time 545 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: with them, but like put the phone down and I look, 546 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 3: I work on my phone. My phone's my office. Yeah, 547 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 3: and sometimes I have to remind myself right. I think 548 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: this thing ruins people's It ruins great conversations, and it 549 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 3: ruins getting to. 550 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: Know a human being as a human being. 551 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: So my biggest challenge to people is spend quality time 552 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 3: with your kids. You only get them for a couple 553 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: of years. And check on your family and your friends. 554 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: Because if there's struggling and hurting right now, a lot 555 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: of people keep it internally and that can turn into 556 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: terrible things. 557 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 2: So check on such good advice. 558 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. He is Ben Ferguson. Check out 559 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: the Ben Ferguson podcast. Thank you so much for coming on, Ben. 560 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. Good to see you.