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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being here with us eight hundred two two

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Speaker 2: eighty two on the phone lines to take more calls

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Speaker 2: in the back of this hour, and there's an update

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Speaker 2: from the Daniel Penny case. You'll recall Daniel Penny is

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Speaker 2: facing manslaughter charges for the choking death of Jordan Neely.

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Speaker 2: This was something that for a lot of New Yorkers

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Speaker 2: and people who have been New Yorkers and spend a

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Speaker 2: ton of time in the New York Subway like me,

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Speaker 2: they're very strong feelings about this. Penny is a marine

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Speaker 2: and he gave the for the first time. He came

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Speaker 2: forward and released a video. I think he realizes that

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Speaker 2: the politics of this are going to effect and the

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Speaker 2: perception of it's very much going to effect the outcome.

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Speaker 2: So he's put a video out where he describes what

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Speaker 2: it was like that day when Neely came on the subway.

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Speaker 2: I would just note for all of you before before

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Speaker 2: we hear from Penny from this video, he says that

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Speaker 2: or it should be pointed out that the media has

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Speaker 2: been trying to convince everybody, the CNN and others that

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Speaker 2: Jordan Neely was a beloved Michael Jackson impersonator. That was

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Speaker 2: the story they were going with. What they left out

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Speaker 2: is that Jordan Neely had recently punched an elderly woman

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Speaker 2: in the face, shattering her nose in her eye socket.

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Speaker 2: That Jordan Neely had been arrested many many times over

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Speaker 2: the years and was known to menace people.

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Speaker 1: On the subway system.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's in a subway system where I would

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Speaker 2: note in case anyone's hasn't seen this over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: this story broke where a twenty nine year old woman

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Speaker 2: on Friday, nine pm. So after the show finished airing

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Speaker 2: nine pm EASTERIRT on Friday, the Chambers Street subway station.

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Speaker 2: Subway station I've spent a ton of time in A

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Speaker 2: woman had to fight off a stranger who exposed himself

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Speaker 2: to her in a subway car, punched her, pinned her

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Speaker 1: The man escaped.

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Speaker 2: She was able to fight him off, but the obviously

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Speaker 2: she had she had injuries. He punched her in the face,

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Speaker 2: he escaped. He is described as a man with a

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Speaker 2: dark complexion between the ages of thirty and forty, five

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Speaker 2: foot six inches tall, wearing a sweatshirt and pants.

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Speaker 1: That's the full description they gave of him.

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Speaker 2: But this is what it's like to be on the

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Speaker 2: subway clay for people these days. Twenty nine year old woman,

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Speaker 2: some crazy guy pulls his pants down, punches her in

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Speaker 2: a that's the Chamber Street subby. That's a very crowded,

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Speaker 2: very you know, nine o'clock on a Friday night, all right,

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Speaker 2: So that's the reality of New York these days, whereby

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Speaker 2: that just happened. Daniel Penny saw a lunatic threatening people,

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Speaker 2: and so he decided to step in and do something.

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Speaker 2: And he's put out a video where he's telling you

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Speaker 2: this is what it was like on that subway. Play it.

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Speaker 3: You could see in the video there's a clear rise

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Speaker 3: and fall of his chest indicating that he's breathing. I'm

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Speaker 3: trying to restrain him from him being able to carry

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Speaker 3: out the threats. And then some people say that this

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Speaker 3: was about race, which is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't see

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Speaker 3: a black man threatening passengers. I saw a man threatening passengers.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of whom were people of color. A

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Speaker 3: And a few days after the incident, I read in

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Speaker 3: the papers that a woman of color came out and

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Speaker 3: called me a hero.

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Speaker 4: What.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe that I'm a but she was one

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Speaker 3: of those people that I was trying to protect.

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Speaker 2: I think, I think that Daniel Penny is a heroic guy.

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Speaker 2: He wasn't trying to kill Jordan Neely. He makes that clear.

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Speaker 2: He says he was just applying the force necessary to

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Speaker 2: get him to stop being a threat. And Clay this

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Speaker 2: guy was running around the subway, according to other eyewitnesses,

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Speaker 2: threatening to kill people and saying he would go to jail.

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Speaker 2: And he is a violent criminal with a long criminal history.

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Speaker 1: And what is it?

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Speaker 2: So the New York DA wants you to wait and

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Speaker 5: That's the rule now in New York. Look the reason

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Speaker 5: he got charged because he's white. I mean, this is

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Speaker 5: the reality. And this to me ties in with the

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Speaker 5: Trump case as well, Buck, because what we have is

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Speaker 5: an anecdote and narrative driven justice department in many parts

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Speaker 5: it's not the facts, it's not the consistent application of justice,

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Speaker 5: then a search for a narrative to fulfill the design.

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Speaker 5: And let me explain exactly what I mean by that.

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Speaker 5: When Joe Biden comes out and says domestic extremism, right

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Speaker 5: wing terrorist, white supremacist are the biggest threat that exists

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Speaker 5: in this country, he is grabbing his megaphone and yelling

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Speaker 5: that to every prosecutor and every investigator anywhere in the country.

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Speaker 5: And if you are told by your boss that this

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Speaker 5: is the priority, you are going to go out and

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Speaker 5: you are going to find evidence that supports the premise

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Speaker 5: under which he's making the case, even if it is

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Speaker 5: not justified by the raw data. And that's the case

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Speaker 5: with Daniel Penny. I would submit to you that if

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Speaker 5: this is a black guy putting that is putting this

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Speaker 5: guy in a choke hold, none of us ever hear

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Speaker 5: about it. Not only does this story not result in charges,

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Speaker 5: not one person listening to us right now even knows

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Speaker 5: it happens. Because black on black violence almost never makes

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Speaker 5: the news. The only reason this is a story and

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Speaker 5: the only reason these are charges that were brought is

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Speaker 5: because Daniel Penny's a white guy. Same thing happened with

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump. The only reason Donald Trump is getting charged

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Speaker 5: is because of his political background. Right now, you can argue,

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Speaker 5: as we did, that Trump behaved in a reckless fashion

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Speaker 5: to allow himself to be charged because they were going

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Speaker 5: through everything he had done with a fine tooth comb

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Speaker 5: trying to find something to get him on. But that

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Speaker 5: is what happens when narrative overtakes justice. Buck, There's a

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Speaker 5: reason why lady justice is blind. Go look at the

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Speaker 5: scales of justice. You should not be applying justice based

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Speaker 5: on the identity of the accused.

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Speaker 2: There is a huge incentive for the Democrat Party and

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Speaker 2: the Democrat machinery to constantly create this fear of white

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Speaker 2: racist violence all the time, the biggest threat to the country.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden went to a historic black college and said

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Speaker 2: white nationalism or white supremacy is the biggest threat to America.

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Speaker 2: Right now, that's the President of the United States saying

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Speaker 2: that what is this rooted in? Where is this actually happening? Well,

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Speaker 2: as we know, it's actually quite rare that there is

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Speaker 2: an incident of interracial violence where a white person is,

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Speaker 2: It's actually statistically quite rare. Most violent crime is within

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Speaker 2: the same race. But if you're looking at interracial crime,

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Speaker 2: as Elon Musk shared the data on this, it is

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Speaker 2: disproportionately ten to one black on white. That's statistics FBI.

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Speaker 1: You can look at that.

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Speaker 2: The Democrat party. Remember when Elon shared that, they all,

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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, he was sharing FBI dot gov data.

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Speaker 2: If we want to have a conversation about what's happening

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Speaker 2: based on data, I think we should all be able

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Speaker 2: to look at and discuss the data. No one denies

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Speaker 2: that's the data. You know, they did clearly started talking

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Speaker 2: about intraracial Well, hold on, that was in the conversation.

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Speaker 2: The conversation was interracial violence that Elon Musk was waging on. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So in this case, though, I think why it's so

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Speaker 2: important for Daniel, I mean Daniel Penny. I think it's

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Speaker 2: somewhat unusual for someone to make a statement like this

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Speaker 2: when they're under indictment, they're facing a manslaughter.

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Speaker 1: I would not advise it as an attorney.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but but he did it, and it's out there,

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Speaker 2: and here's what he wants everyham to know though, because

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Speaker 2: the media doesn't want people to know this.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Neely was not just threatening.

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Speaker 2: To murder people. He was threatened to murder people, including

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Speaker 1: This is what he's saying.

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Speaker 2: Also, one of the individuals who helped hold you Nearly

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the narrative of racism.

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Speaker 2: Here becomes really complicated. Daniel Penny steps in to stop

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Speaker 2: brown people, and the guy who helps him hold Jordan

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Speaker 1: A black guy.

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Speaker 2: So the racism narrative you have to work really hard

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Speaker 2: to try to find this as a racist incident, which

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Speaker 2: is the whole basis for Bragg's prosecution here, and.

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Speaker 4: We all know it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and Buck, the data actually reflects And again this

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Speaker 5: goes to the data. This is the factual evidence. And

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Speaker 5: I bet in the back of Daniel Neely's ahead, even

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Speaker 5: if he doesn't acknowledge it, police are actually less likely

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Speaker 5: to use violence against black defendants as a percentage of

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Speaker 5: violent acts. It's a big Harvard study they did.

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Speaker 2: They're like, why the left hates that and they try

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Speaker 2: to undermine that study all the time now, But it

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Why would that be the case.

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Speaker 5: It's because there are I think probably a lot of

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Speaker 5: going to be held if you're a white guy to

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Speaker 5: a different standard if you use violence against a black person,

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Speaker 5: and you would be if you use violence against a

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Speaker 5: choked a black guy. It's that if he had choked

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Speaker 5: The only way this becomes a story is if a

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Speaker 1: Black guy does it to a black guy.

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Speaker 5: Nobody pays attention in black on black violence happens so

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Speaker 5: frequently the media never covers it. White crazy guy Daniel

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Speaker 5: Penny puts him in a choke, Coldeny dies one billion percent, Buck,

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Speaker 5: this never becomes a story either, the only reason I

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Speaker 5: would love to hear people who are in media try

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Speaker 5: to justify this, because Buck, The argument they would make is, well,

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Speaker 5: systemic racism is such an ever present reality that when

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Speaker 1: But to your point, it actually is a wildly outlier.

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Speaker 5: Incident that isn't actually representative of danger that exists in

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Speaker 5: New York City or any city in America. Black people,

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Speaker 5: by and large have almost nothing to fear from white

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Speaker 5: people if you just look at it on a data basis,

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Speaker 5: and by the way, almost none of us have anything

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Speaker 5: at all to fear from police either. I always like

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Speaker 5: to use this stat but because it blows people's minds.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you're an unarmed person in America today,

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Speaker 5: regardless of your race, but including if you're black, White, Asian,

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Speaker 5: or Hispanic, you are more likely to be killed by

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Speaker 5: police officer. That blows people's minds. Unarmed, right, because you're

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Speaker 5: not then trying to typically create any sort of issue

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Speaker 5: with a weapon. Would you ever be afraid to walk

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Speaker 1: Of course not. We fear things that aren't real because

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Speaker 2: I remember after Ferguson, Don Lemon, formerly of CNN, said that,

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Speaker 5: He said he wouldn't accept the police escort anymore because

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: Four You want to put it out there, Why don't we?

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Speaker 2: clay Anbuck. Governor Rond de Santis, as you all know,

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Speaker 6: I also look forward to as president restoring the name

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Speaker 2: This is something that you and I've talked about before,

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Speaker 2: hundred years ago, I got news for you. Nobody was

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Speaker 2: Philip Schuyler from there's a statue of Skyler and that

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Speaker 2: And but some folks will recall that slavery wasn't abolished

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Speaker 2: with all of these historical figures? And then who are

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Speaker 1: Who is a who? Or who even in history are

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Speaker 5: This is one where Trump was one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 5: And this is why I have always opposed tearing down statues,

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Speaker 5: going to I mean, he did get one of the

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Speaker 5: coolest bases named after him. So this is kind of ironic,

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Speaker 5: is it. I mean, like Fort Bragg Fort Bragg, as

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Speaker 5: everyone knows who trains there, the unit trains there. I

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Speaker 5: believe we're adding Chattanooga, Tennessee on August first, as a

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Speaker 5: new member of the Clay and Buck family, and I

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Speaker 5: have spent a lot of time in Chattanooga. In fact,

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Speaker 5: one of the big failures of Braxton Bragg Buck and

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Speaker 5: this is again I'm nerding out here, he did not

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Speaker 5: set up the Confederate battle line at the military crest

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Speaker 5: surrounding Chattanooga. So if you go, like, if you're a

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Speaker 5: real Civil War nerd, and you ever go to, like, say,

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Speaker 5: the Battle of Lookout Mountain, you will see that the

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Speaker 5: Union troops under Grant were able to take those commanding

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Speaker 5: heights that looked out over the Tennessee River because Bragg,

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Speaker 5: who was supposedly this brilliant engineer, did not put the

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Speaker 5: breastworks at the military crest and so left his line

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Speaker 5: susceptible to being overrun, and also was an awful manager

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Speaker 5: and all these other different things. But as soon as

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Speaker 5: you set the precedent, and in my book that's coming

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Speaker 5: out on August eighth, I write about this. You know,

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Speaker 5: this is something that I think very few people are

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Speaker 5: aware of. Do you know Martin Luther King used to

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Speaker 5: do an advice column in Ebony magazine. Buck A lot

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Speaker 5: of people are like I would have no idea this

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Speaker 5: ever happened. Martin Luther King Junior was an advice columnist

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Speaker 5: in Ebony Magazine back in the day, and he took

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Speaker 5: a question for that magazine from a individual who wrote

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Speaker 5: in asking about the fact that he had attraction.

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Speaker 1: To men and he knew it was wrong.

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Speaker 5: And Martin Luther King's advice to him was, and this

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Speaker 5: is in the late nineteen fifties, I believe Martin Luther

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Speaker 5: King's advice to him was, being gay is a mental illness.

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Speaker 5: You should go see a psychiatrist and get yourself fixed

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Speaker 5: for that. Right, So does that mean that doesn't sound

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Speaker 5: veryreo to me, doesn't sound very woke at all. Does

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Speaker 5: that mean because Martin Luther King, by modern standards on

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Speaker 5: homosexuality was completely unacceptable right? No political candidate could have

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Speaker 5: that opinion right now and get elected to high office.

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Speaker 5: In fact, if somebody came out and said that, it

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Speaker 5: would be a massive scandal, especially during Pride Month of

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Speaker 5: all times. Does that mean we should go have to

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Speaker 5: take down the Martin Luther King Junior Memorial because his

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Speaker 5: opinions on gay related issues in the nineteen fifties and

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Speaker 5: nineteen sixties are very different than what we believe now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the answer is no.

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Speaker 5: But if you apply that standard of constantly judging the

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Speaker 5: past history by our woke standards, then we have to

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Speaker 5: basically take down every statue of memorial that's ever existed.

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Speaker 2: You have to rename the United States capital, and Yale

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Speaker 2: University has to change its name, which it will never

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Speaker 2: do because the entire value of that institution is in

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Speaker 2: the name recognition, because a lie who Yale was a

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Speaker 2: slave trader. But the point here is you have such

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Speaker 2: a small and you know, I think we can all

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Speaker 2: understand at some level too when you're celebrating. Make this

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Speaker 2: a lot easier, right, Steve Jobs said nothing to with slavery. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Steve Jobs amazing visionary and marketing guy for Apple, and

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Speaker 2: we're all sitting around using Apple devices. Apparently not a

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Speaker 2: nice guy at all, not like a nice individual, right,

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Speaker 2: really kind of cutthroat and a lot anyway. I'm just

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Speaker 2: bring it up because what do we care about with

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Speaker 2: regardless Steve Jobs, Apple and the building of the company

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Speaker 2: and the products that we all use. You're not endorsing

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Speaker 2: his treatment of you know, everyone that he was friends

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Speaker 2: with in his life or anything else. You know, the

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Speaker 2: same thing we talked about this with artists. What are

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Speaker 2: you celebrating when you say Van Goh was a great painter.

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Speaker 2: You're not saying Van go is somebody who you should

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Speaker 2: really look to for psychological stability advice, Like that's probably

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Speaker 2: a bad idea, right, So, or you know, Picasso was

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Speaker 2: somebody you should look to for the way that he

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Speaker 2: treats women. He treated women horribly. Point being, if we

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Speaker 2: can't separate out the greatness of an accomplishment that an

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Speaker 2: individual achieved from Oh, everything this person did is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Who was left?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: I mean Churchill was great.

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Speaker 2: You know, Churchill was an alcoholic and had some really

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Speaker 2: bad positions on different stuff. I hate to break it

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Speaker 2: to people, but you know he was wrong on some

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Speaker 2: stuff too. So i'd also ask people think about this.

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Speaker 5: Many people in this social justice community are convinced that

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Speaker 5: they would have been on the vanguard of Let's just

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Speaker 5: use as an example because we're talking about Civil War.

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Speaker 5: So you're telling me that, you who have the opinion

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Speaker 5: that every big business, every big entity in America has today,

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Speaker 5: you are the opposite of a revolutionary right.

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Speaker 1: You are a follower.

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Speaker 5: You are getting in line behind all the powerful people.

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Speaker 5: You're telling me that if in eighteen sixty one you

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Speaker 5: had been growing up in Georgia, you would have fought

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Speaker 5: for the North.

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Speaker 1: If you had been growing up.

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Speaker 5: In Mississippi in eighteen sixty two, you would have fought

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Speaker 5: for the North.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 5: Look, this is the part that like no one will

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Speaker 5: actually go through. People fought almost exclusively for the state

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Speaker 5: that they happened to be born in. They did what

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Speaker 5: everybody else around them did. It takes real bravery to

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Speaker 5: stand up to the masses, which is the opposite of

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Speaker 5: what these mobs do today. The airline attendance and school teachers,

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Speaker 5: who were, you know, screaming at at children to mask

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Speaker 5: up and telling everybody that they were murdering grandmaf they

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Speaker 5: didn't do. Yeah, they would have been the prison guards

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Speaker 5: of the Gulag everybody, and that wasn't that long ago.

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Speaker 5: They would have been the one saying, I don't care

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Speaker 5: that you're innocent. We're gonna put you out to work

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Speaker 5: and you're gonna go die in the freezing cold Siberian wasteland.

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Speaker 5: They're not heroes, okay, there's nothing heroic about going along

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Speaker 5: with what the mob demands, which is also known as

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Speaker 5: being a democrat saying that's well said from here for yeah,

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Speaker 5: thank you do what I can. So, my friends, we

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Speaker 5: have the most important thing to talk about right now

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Speaker 5: hooked up there. So a bunch of people want to

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Speaker 5: weigh in on some of these, like why did Trump

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Speaker 5: keep the documents? We asked that question, Buck, But before

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Speaker 5: we play that, I want to hit this. Last night

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Speaker 5: at the Tony Awards. It doesn't matter who the Republican

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Speaker 5: nominee is, just know that they are going to play

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Speaker 5: nasty with whoever the nominee is. Last night on the

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Speaker 5: Tony Awards, which is the awards they give out for

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Speaker 5: Broadway musicals and all that stuff. I can be honest

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Speaker 5: with you and say I've never watched the Tony Awards.

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Speaker 5: But one of the presenters came out and called Ron

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Speaker 5: DeSantis a grand Dragon. This was airing last night.

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Speaker 2: Listen Earlier tonight, CMU and the Tony Awards presented the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Excellence in Theater at Vcation Award.

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Speaker 1: And while I am certain that the current Grand Wizard,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, excuse me, governor of my home state of Florida,

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Speaker 1: will be exchanging.

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Speaker 5: Oh you get it, Buck, Ron DeSantis. He's the head

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Speaker 5: of the KKK, the Grand Wizard of the KKA. What

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Speaker 5: with all of his things he's doing, like winning election

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Speaker 5: by nineteen points, allowing people to not wear masks, making

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Speaker 5: everyone safer because crime is not very high at all.

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Speaker 5: In fact, fifty year lows I believe. Oh, he's like

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Speaker 5: just like the Grand Wizard of the KKK.

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Speaker 2: It's also so interesting because you know, there's what people

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Speaker 2: say and there's what people do, and you should always

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Speaker 2: pay much more attention to what they do. Is there

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Speaker 2: some huge outflow of people leaving Florida because it's so awful?

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the number show us that Florida received the

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Speaker 2: largest in state migrant you know, or into the state

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Speaker 2: migration of any state in America over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Because things in Florida have been going so well.

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Speaker 1: We all know this.

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Speaker 2: And as we've noted, Donald Trump used to be a

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Speaker 2: New York City resident. He is now a Florida resident,

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Speaker 2: as are all three I'm sorry, Well, he has more

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Speaker 2: than three adult children. I don't know about the fourth one,

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Speaker 2: but three of his adult children are also formerly New

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Speaker 2: York residents now Florida residents. Because things are going really

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Speaker 2: well in this state, and people like zero income tax,

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Speaker 2: and they like cops being supported, and they like regulation

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Speaker 2: that makes sense and deregulation that's you know, we've good

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Speaker 2: on the whole list.

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Speaker 1: But what is the race?

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Speaker 2: What is racist? This is the question I think so interesting.

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Speaker 2: There's been some stuff about wokeness and lgbt Q I

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Speaker 2: A Plus and Disney. What is the racist thing that

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Speaker 2: ron is that that they pushed back on teaching UH

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Speaker 2: American Point Studies curriculum and now they have an they

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Speaker 2: have approved the Black Studies curriculum. They're just not teaching

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Speaker 2: c RT in it. And that now makes you a

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Speaker 2: member of the KKK. It's just it's so stupid. But

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Speaker 2: you have to push back on this stuff because people

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Speaker 2: believe what they hear. Unfortunately, and the slanders, the people

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Speaker 2: who slander, whether it's Governor Santis or any Republican for

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Speaker 2: that matter, they feel justified no matter how much of

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Speaker 2: a lie it is, because they think that ultimately the

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Speaker 2: person deserves it, even if it's a lie.

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah.

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Speaker 5: And also whether you to Trump, oh one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: And we'll get some of your calls here momentarily. But

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Speaker 5: if we had that Tony Ward's woman who said the

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Speaker 5: Grand Dragon comment, if we had her on and we

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Speaker 5: actually pushed her and said, okay, you know what is

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Speaker 5: Ronda Santis doing that to you is worthy of analogizing

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Speaker 5: him to a member of the KKK. She would crumble instantaneously.

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Speaker 5: Because so many of these people, Buck, we talked about

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Speaker 5: narrative over fact earlier. They buy into the narrative. They

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Speaker 5: have no facts to support their narrative. Yeah, you know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: team and the work we do, and you also get

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Speaker 2: an email address you can write right into the team.

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Speaker 2: During the show, we got a lot of people writing

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Speaker 2: in on the why did Trump keep the documents? Which

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Speaker 2: I do think is I think is an interesting question.

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Speaker 2: I think Trump should address this himself at some point.

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Speaker 2: I mean he will in court, but I you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he might as well come out and tell people.

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Speaker 2: I know that he said that he just believes he

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Speaker 2: had the right to have them, Okay, but when the

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Speaker 2: government said no, you don't, and it's being litigated, why

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Speaker 2: why why was it so important for him to keep them?

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Speaker 1: It's just a question.

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Speaker 2: Brad wrote it and said it is so obvious. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he has documents that implicate the FBI and DOJ and

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Speaker 2: Russia Russia collusion. So in addition to him trying to

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Speaker 2: put him in jail, he can't run or is hamstrung,

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Speaker 2: but he also has damning evidence that they can't let

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Speaker 2: out there. But here's my problem with this, because I've

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Speaker 2: seen other people say this, Why didn't he just declassify

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Speaker 2: and make it public?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Why not declassify the Russia docs and make it public?

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Speaker 2: I talked to Trump in the Oval Office ones about

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Speaker 2: declassifying Russia documents, and I'm gonna tell you, guys know

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Speaker 2: what he said, Where we're looking through, there's a process,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we're taking into account sort of what

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Speaker 2: the intelligence community says needs to be protected. But why

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Speaker 2: not just release it?

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Speaker 5: I don't know that's really important that you just said, Buck,

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Speaker 5: because if your theory and we had a couple of

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Speaker 5: callers who want to say this is, oh, Trump's keeping

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Speaker 5: the documents to protect him from the deep state or

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Speaker 5: whatever you want to say, Okay, the best way to

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Speaker 5: protect yourself is to release them and make them public.

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Speaker 5: When he was president, he had absolute authority to declassify anything.

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Speaker 5: You've talked about this before, sometimes he would even tweet

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Speaker 5: out a picture. As soon as the president makes something public,

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Speaker 5: it's no longer declassified. He has that ability right. So,

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Speaker 5: if you truly have this evidence that you believe clears you,

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Speaker 5: you want it as widely distributed as possible so that

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Speaker 5: analogy that argument to me does not add up.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about it next