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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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Speaker 1: the betting show that makes the squares sharper It makes

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Speaker 1: the wise guys pay attention. I am Chadmilman. I am

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Speaker 1: joined by my co host, my BFF, my companion, my

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Speaker 1: combaderate professional better Simon hutter Ello. Simon Chad, how are

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Speaker 1: we doing, dude, It's late late in the day. It's

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Speaker 1: a long day. I'm losing it a little bit. A wild, wacky,

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Speaker 1: insane set of games that we are involved in. Back

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Speaker 1: doors that shouldn't have been back doors, almost back doors,

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Speaker 1: games that we left off the plate that we should

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Speaker 1: have put on the plate, games that we put on

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Speaker 1: the plate that we're get We're glad we put on

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Speaker 1: the plate. Things went both ways for us, which is

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Speaker 1: how we are now two and two. On the day

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Speaker 1: we won with the the Browns plus eight and a

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Speaker 1: half and Carolina plus three and a half. We lost

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Speaker 1: with the Rams at three and the Bengals at five

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Speaker 1: and a half. We have the Eagles minus one and

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Speaker 1: a half in the contest, but we've been betting them

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Speaker 1: two and a half all weeks. We're on the Eagles

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Speaker 1: two and a half. Tonight, we're gonna get to our

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Speaker 1: early leans, a review of how we did on all

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Speaker 1: of our picks, your live comments, All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. Cincinnati opening the day for US plus five

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Speaker 1: and a half. Shocker, shocker. There were thirteen points in

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Speaker 1: the first ten minutes and then there were no points

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Speaker 1: I think until the end of the first half. It

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Speaker 1: was a wacky, ugly, annoying, disgusting. Oh my god, we

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Speaker 1: should have won this game a thousand different ways today.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I hated it.

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Speaker 3: We just I never trusted this nowek never made sense.

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Speaker 3: And I was gonna give you tons of credit because

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Speaker 3: it looked like you were right for about three fourths

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Speaker 3: of the game, because like you said that, there was

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Speaker 3: just no points and that's what you want when you

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Speaker 3: have an ugly dog.

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Speaker 2: They kept it close.

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Speaker 3: Really was a game I feel like we're gonna cover

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Speaker 3: the whole time until what a neblie was going to

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Speaker 3: happen happened.

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Speaker 2: That Flacco picked six. That's what burned us to me

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Speaker 2: in the end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the Flacco pick six. The Bengels were

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Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot sort of as soon as

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Speaker 1: the end of the first half ended, the Steelers started

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Speaker 1: The Bengels on that drive had four penalties in six plays,

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Speaker 1: including multiple rough in the passers and a defensive pass

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Speaker 1: interference before the drive ended at the end of the

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Speaker 1: half with the field goal. And then like after that,

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Speaker 1: like Flacco had the pick six, they could never get

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Speaker 1: the ball down field the Packer. The Steelers defense finally

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Speaker 1: What's really interesting about this. Jalen Warren left the game,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers did not play in the second half. And

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you when we got Mason Rudolph to start

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Speaker 1: the second half, I'm like, I can't believe we got

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Speaker 1: this gift. But we did not get a gift.

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Speaker 3: No, And it's again another lesson. If the line's too

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Speaker 3: good to be true, just stay away. We should have

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Speaker 3: stayed away from this one. This line stunk. We fell

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Speaker 3: into it and that was just a bad bet. Like

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Speaker 3: you said, the Flaco stuff, we knew he was due

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Speaker 3: for one of these games, right, Flaco is not gonna

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Speaker 3: be out here throwing for four hundred yards every week

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Speaker 2: He was just off.

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Speaker 3: He kept reaching to his shoulder and reacting after a

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Speaker 3: and when a backup comes in, you're feeling pretty good, Spencer.

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Speaker 3: When the defense has blaying so well, like it's a

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Speaker 3: like we said, once Flatco just started turning over and

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, this was definitely our worst bet of the day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jaylen Ramsey got kicked out of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it didn't hurt. This one made me so happy. Carolina

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Speaker 1: And now we're gonna lose this one too, and I

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Speaker 1: I needed the Panthers. I needed Bryce young to have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you just needed Bryce Younger for four un or

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Speaker 2: Chev. I know I liked it.

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Speaker 3: My fear was what we always talk about, the numbers

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Speaker 3: I just didn't get it. Like we keep talking about

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Speaker 3: this Atlanta team is not good. I did not get

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Speaker 3: the line movement. I was worried there was something I

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Speaker 3: like this coach tried giving this game away in so

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Speaker 3: many different ways where he just needs to trust his team.

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Speaker 3: I get it to give up twenty one points in

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Speaker 3: the first half, they dominated the second half, and you're

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Speaker 3: still going for it and on weird fourth downs in

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Speaker 3: very bizarre. Carolina was a much better team. Like you said,

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Speaker 3: it's it's a big deal in a team could go

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Speaker 2: And on the flip.

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Speaker 3: Side, Bryce Young nine points in the third quarter, eight

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Speaker 3: play by Bryce Young. So half a game out, Carolina

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Speaker 3: Panthers are first place in that division.

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Speaker 2: It's it's really fun team right now.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget. Don't forget. Nine in the third quarter, eight

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Speaker 1: outscored the Falcon twenty three to six. Like they were

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Speaker 1: all over the Falcons in that game. And you mentioned Penix.

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Speaker 1: Penix left the game with a knee injury or what

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins came in and he had a really good

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Speaker 1: but generally he was pretty dreadful and looked like a

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Speaker 1: B Jon Robinson had ninety three yards in the first half.

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Speaker 1: And what was interesting to me was the Panthers got

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Speaker 2: Now I thought we were cooked. I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: This was better than dead because they, like you said,

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Speaker 1: Well, look, Bryce Young, I thought we were cooked to

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Speaker 1: and he was throwing dimes. He was moving up in

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Speaker 1: He was thrown into very very tight windows. Our good

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Speaker 1: a great call on the first touchdown pass to McDonald.

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Speaker 1: He's like he threw it to him. You know, he

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Speaker 1: He was great, Bryce Young. We'll talk about that a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you know what. Let's talk about it now.

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Speaker 1: In the second half in overtime twenty of twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: Who to your point, I think he looked like he

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Speaker 1: They're down twenty two nineteen. I think twenty four nineteen,

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Speaker 1: He was valiant, he was courageous, he was glorious. He

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Speaker 1: to Carolina, they're going to be like, Bryce Young, you

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Speaker 1: are our quarterback, and Dave Canalys you are coach, and

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Speaker 1: Tepper the owner is going to be like of cour Worse.

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Speaker 1: I was a genius for trading up to get Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think they're gonna feel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, vibes are high and on the fop side of

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Speaker 3: three and seven. Pretty disastrous start three and two and

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Speaker 1: Three and seven. Right now, you got to believe that

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Speaker 1: this might be the end for Rahue Morris. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how they can keep him around because they've just

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Speaker 1: been losing all these close games. And at some point

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Speaker 1: when you're losing close games, that's the coaching and so

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Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a real challenge for

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Speaker 3: Let'ld say, if you're the defensive coaching Bryce Shungston for

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Speaker 3: almost four hundred fifty yards on you, guys, probably changes

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Speaker 1: Not great. Also not great getting back doored by the

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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. They were three point underdogs at Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: The Rams were our brass Balls bet of the week.

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Speaker 1: They got two first quarter of touchdowns. Then from the

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Speaker 1: They gave up four field goals. The time of possession

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Speaker 1: really incredible what happened the Rams. Four picks of Darnald.

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Speaker 1: They should have won that game by so many points. Simon,

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Speaker 3: He's like to give him. He wasn't even that good

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Speaker 3: We avoided it. The pros are all over Tennessee. Great

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Speaker 1: game kicked off with the Buffalo Bills, they were six

435
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Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs, moved from five and a

436
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: half to six and a half. We avoided all week,

437
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Speaker 1: We didn't get suckered in. Even this morning, we found

438
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Speaker 1: a way not to talk about it, not to put

439
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: it in. This game was so fucking drunk, it's ridiculous.

440
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: I assume you watched this one in the book.

441
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is a big one.

442
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just another game.

443
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: Just like since we talked that, just a fishy line,

444
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,360
Speaker 3: and the books don't give away two or three free points,

445
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: and that's what I feel like they were doing. The

446
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 3: spot just did not make sense that Bill's defense is

447
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: not good enough to be that big of a favorite,

448
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: and they're not. It's Josh Allen. He's big enough to

449
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: be that big of a favorite. Is Josh Allen's best

450
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 3: game we've ever seen him play?

451
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's superstar, incredibly handsome quarterback.

452
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 4: Died in the wool inveterates monster fires. It excited to

453
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 4: turn the part to the anside jug down touchdown excuse

454
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Speaker 4: me touch down from Josh Allen?

455
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Speaker 1: How can he puss simply too?

456
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Speaker 4: It's just is it possible? Strike and les are.

457
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Speaker 1: Carrying at home?

458
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: The Bills were unstoppable.

459
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Speaker 4: Josh Allen end records, be good, do good, God bless

460
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: Mingo Bills.

461
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: Baker, he brought it today and we we The first

462
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 3: noticeable difference in this game right away from the get

463
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: go was Baker was using his.

464
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Speaker 2: Legs gether games.

465
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Speaker 3: And that you saw how game, how much of a

466
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: game changer is from offensively, but Baker can only do

467
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 3: so much. Like it just was never ending the onslap

468
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Speaker 3: by Josh Allen. He's just so talented. This was just

469
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: a Josh Allen type of game, Like right when you're

470
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Speaker 3: doutting them is these exact type of moments in these games.

471
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go back and watch it again because

472
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: it's it's rare you see a quarterback through for three

473
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 3: touchdowns and rush for three touchdowns.

474
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Speaker 2: It's just an all time game.

475
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: So yeah, Honestly, we were talking before the show, it

476
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 3: felt like every game lived up to the hype today

477
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: in the NFL, Like every big game that was talked

478
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: about hyped up, big matchup, the playoff atmosphere type of

479
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: matchups lived up to it, and this was one of them.

480
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 3: The Bucks felt like they were in the entire game,

481
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: and just at the very end the Bills pulled away

482
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: and covered this number. So yeah, thank guy, we avoided it.

483
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: It was a fishy line all week for sure, and

484
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: we didn't. The over open at fifteen and a half

485
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 3: closed at forty five and a half, So jesus, I

486
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: know a lot of buddies pros who hammered that weather

487
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 3: under it was really windy, supposed to be bad weather

488
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: up there.

489
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: It didn't look that way at all.

490
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Speaker 3: I think they had like forty points midway through the

491
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: third quarter, So brutal buro bet on if you had

492
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Speaker 3: that under in that game.

493
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Speaker 1: Five minutes left, the Bucks were up thirty two thirty one,

494
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: as six and a half point underdogs. Like when if

495
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: you had the Bucks, you would have been so freaking

496
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: psyched you had thought even if the Bills score again,

497
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: because this game had gone back and forth, back and forth.

498
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: At that point, there had been nine lead changes in

499
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Speaker 1: the game to the point where the Bucks were up

500
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: thirty two to thirty one, back and forth, back and forth,

501
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. You still would have thought, Okay,

502
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: the Bills, then.

503
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: If they score here, I'll come down the two pointer.

504
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: It'll it'll come down to right, It'll be like the

505
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: Bucks are going to get another shot, and the way

506
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: they've been scoring, there's a good chance they'll be able

507
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: to score here. The fact that the Bucks the Bills

508
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: scored on the next drive and then scored again to

509
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: end up covering that game, Oh my goodness. The only

510
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: person I was thinking about that whole time was Matt Mitchell,

511
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 1: Like he must have been sick to his stomach. He

512
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: can't come on the show right now because the way

513
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: we record it now, which is a bummer, because maybe

514
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: he can give us a little bit of a recording

515
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: for Tuesday, because Gollie, Gee, that was a brutal game

516
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: as a Bills fan for about fifty seven minutes.

517
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: And as much as I'm bad mouth on their defense,

518
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: they scored that touchdown to take the lead thirty seven

519
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: to thirty two, three and out by big.

520
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: I gotta stop, Yeah, they gotta stop.

521
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Got Josh on the ball back and we always say

522
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 3: it's it's crazy how when he's on it just doesn't

523
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: matter who the defense is and what they're throwing at him.

524
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: He just went right down the field and scored another touchdown.

525
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: So maybe it's because Ken Coleman was a healthy scratch.

526
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. It's crazy.

527
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what inspired him. Arizona screw him. This is

528
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: what I want to say about Arizona Classic. Cardinals start

529
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: opening kickoff, the Niners return it to the one, score

530
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: a touchdown, so now the Cardinals are down. Immediately they punt,

531
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Niners score another touchdown, they miss a field goal, then

532
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: they end the half of the block field goal, only

533
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: to get called for a penalty. The Niners kick it

534
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: and make it. So they opened the game with a

535
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: special team snapho, they close the game with a special

536
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: the half of the special teams snapho, and then they're

537
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Speaker 1: keeping it close. I think it's twenty five, twenty five

538
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: or twenty eight ten, fourth and one. They go for

539
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: it from midfield. Great call, great run, touchdown. Guy gets

540
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: called for holding ten yards away from the play. That

541
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: was the Arizona Cardinals in a nutshell. However, Jacoby Brissett

542
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: through an NFL record forty seven completions.

543
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Speaker 3: I was I'd be honest. I did not watch a

544
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: second of this game. There were just other better games

545
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: that I love that you brought this one up. Let's

546
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: talk the Broncos Chiefs game. That's a way better game.

547
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: I was watching the Broncos Chiefs game, but we had

548
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: talked about the Cardinals, so I want to make sure

549
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: we referenced the Cardinals at some point on this show.

550
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: We had talked about it a lot during the week. Look,

551
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City, Denver, Denver close four and a half. You

552
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: like Denver all week. I think we both got spooked

553
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: by the pushback we were hearing from the books and

554
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: from wise guys, because this line was moving and we

555
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: couldn't under stand why you almost made it. Simon says,

556
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: when it was Denver three and a half and it

557
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: went the other way, and Denver did Denver man. Their

558
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: defense was amazing and they made Patrick Maholmes look confused,

559
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: and they came off the by and were terrible and

560
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: bo Nicks all of a sudden, we like is throwing

561
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: the passes we've been asking them to make for two

562
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: freaking weeks.

563
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just an all time game though that you know,

564
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 3: not that we've been waiting for Mahomes to be dethroned,

565
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 3: but we've been waiting for him the trip up at least, right,

566
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Speaker 3: He's just had this insane run where every year they're

567
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: making the AFC Championship game.

568
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: That's not that's not natural. Football should not be that way.

569
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Speaker 3: The greatest quarterback ever, Tom Brady, had a bunch of

570
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 3: trip ups like it just happens. It's really stupid. So

571
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: what makes amazing moments in football? And that's what today was.

572
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: It's what you dream about if you're a Broncos fan,

573
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: Like it's a game that you know. I love them

574
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: so much because I just felt like everybody was leaving

575
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: them for dead after that Thursday game where football just

576
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 3: doesn't work, that it's just up and down week to week.

577
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: And you saw today when Boone Knicks is on, it's

578
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: a really good offense like Champagne schemes, guys wide open,

579
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: and he had a bunch of opportunities today and he

580
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: did it create his own stuff. I'll give both some

581
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: credit for that, but that crazy stat just about them

582
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: basically when they're coming off.

583
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: A game where they are horrible in the red zone.

584
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: With Sean Payton as a head coach, he's now sixteen

585
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: to one against the spread in games where the week

586
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 3: before they failed to score more than one time in

587
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: the red zone. So just something to keep in mind.

588
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: He just gets the guys to bounce back, coaches them

589
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 3: up and in this game, I mean, they just hung

590
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: in it. They outplayed Mahomes in a lot of ways.

591
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: And you know, Mahomes had his opportunities and he just

592
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: didn't live up to it in the moment. Right the

593
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: Denver defense, they made their right moves this offseason, got

594
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: the right pieces and got guys that can make stops.

595
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: So it's just crazy to think Denver. I mean this

596
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: not that it sealed them to win this division, but

597
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: it truly is all on their own hands now, Like

598
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: if they just win three four more games, they're going

599
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: to lock up this division.

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Speaker 2: That's a huge deal.

601
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 3: But for someone like me, it makes me excited to

602
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 3: know I'm going to get my homes on the road,

603
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: potentially as a dog in the playoffs.

604
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: So we'll see when that that point comes.

605
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: Broncos and Patriots are steaming towards division titles right now.

606
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: Colts are two. I don't think anyone had that parlay

607
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: of Colts Broncos Patriots. Well find I'm sure someone will

608
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: tweet their tickets soon and figure out what the cash

609
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: out offer is from whoever is wherever they made the bet.

610
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: But good for all these teams. A great game, super

611
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: fun game to watch, back and forth, back and forth,

612
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: really physical, really intense, untimely and irregular turnovers by Patrick Mahomes. Look,

613
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: you're you're not wrong. Just look at the Chargers. Two

614
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: weeks ago they dominate the Steelers. Today they get dominated

615
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: by the Jacks. Like two weeks ago, ten days ago,

616
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: the Broncos can't score against the Raiders and today they're

617
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: throwing the ball up and down the field against the

618
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: Chiefs like football is different every single time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was just, like we said, a unique

620
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: spot where I loved it. But I was interesting how

621
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: Bonnicks would react to all the outside noise that they

622
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: know inside that building that this is them.

623
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Speaker 2: They're a huge underdog.

624
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Speaker 3: It's Mahmes off of bye, and if they win this game,

625
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: they are three and a half games up on this

626
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: Chiefs team. Like that, that's a big deal that he

627
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: was in this big moment, was level headed enough bon Knicks.

628
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Where you saw some other quarterbacks like Sam Darnold in

629
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: a big moment completely melt. I mean they got through

630
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: four picks like bon Knicks could have easily melted in

631
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: this spot, could have not shown up like he did

632
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: the week before, and he totally showed up and reviewed himselves.

633
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 3: So I have such a hard time reading bon Nicks now.

634
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: It's like, now I want to fade them next weekcause

635
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: we know he's just gonna lay an egg coming up.

636
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: That's just what he does. So it's I get why

637
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: people didn't love this game want to avoid it, but

638
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: I'm just glad it came down to the number of

639
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: playing the number and shocking, shocking the Broncos on this

640
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: game out right.

641
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: How about the Chicago Bears, These cardiac Calebs, they just

642
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: keep doing their thing at the end of the game,

643
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: could have put it away so many freaking times. I

644
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know if JJ McCarthy is a betable quarterback because

645
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: that is an excruciating and frustrating and even justin Jefferson

646
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: seems like he's just about to lose it right now,

647
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: and listening to Tom Brady do that game, he like

648
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: tried so hard to make every excuse for JJ McCarthy

649
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: about the intangibles he has and then tried to talk

650
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: about how he could correct the tangible things that he's

651
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Speaker 1: doing terribly, mainly the bad decision making and the inaccurate

652
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: passes and throwing it to the wrong team. It's a

653
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: brutal watch if you're a Vikings Fanny and Caleb is

654
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: he's working magic right now, he's turning into something else.

655
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: I've always loved Caleb Williams. I've always loved that kid.

656
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, this this game is it was like I

657
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: said going into it, it's a must watch. I'm addicted

658
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: to betting this Bears team. It's just there's nothing like it.

659
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: Every week.

660
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 3: It's super close, and they just find a way to

661
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: make it close when they shouldn't be. They should either

662
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: be blowing teams out or they should be getting blown out,

663
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 3: and they just keep finding a way. And yeah, in

664
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: a game in which you know Caleb was sixteen of

665
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 3: thirty two and JJ McCarthy was sixteen of thirty two,

666
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: you wouldn't be like, oh, that was a fun, exciting game.

667
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: But it really was as sloppy as it was. You know,

668
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: it's it's exciting to see the few sure these two coaches,

669
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: hopefully for a long time, would be going head to head,

670
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: even if these two quarterbacks are not the answers, but

671
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 3: I still think with both of these guys, they both

672
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: did stuff in this game. I really like like Caleb's

673
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: pocket presence, some of the moves he made. Yeah, you

674
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: just you can see it. You see the potential there.

675
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: And same with JJ. I know it's ugly. There's a

676
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 3: lot of throws that were just terrible, him missing wide

677
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: up on guys, but he also had a couple of

678
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: passes You're like, Okay, this kid obviously has a ton

679
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: of talent. It's just he's on a team that people

680
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: had playoff expectations for and he is nowhere near the

681
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 3: quarterback they need to get him to that place. So

682
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 3: it sucks if you're a Minnesota fan. I mean, I'm

683
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: sure there's some Minnesota fans out there like, I don't

684
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 3: even believe this guy. They should draft a new quarterback

685
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: this upcoming year, but I feel like you have to

686
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: give him the rest of the season and next season.

687
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: It's just the NFL is so complicated and he's running

688
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: such a complicated offensive scheme. What I see as a

689
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: quarterback thinking before he throws and react into the offense,

690
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: other than a guy that's just playing within the offense

691
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 3: and you know it's you can just tell you just

692
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 3: said the jitters, like there's a bunch of throws today

693
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: the Bears. We were talking before he came on, the

694
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: Bears could have won this game by twenty points. Like

695
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: he just was so turnover prone, couldn't do anything offensively.

696
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 3: We're on the flip side, you know, this Bears team.

697
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: Caleb kind of held him back. Where you guys once

698
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: again feel like you're running the ball whenever you wanted.

699
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: I think they ran for one hundred and forty yards.

700
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: You know, it got shut down a little bit in

701
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. That's just because Minnesota was selling out

702
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: to stop it. But yeah, as a various fan, you're

703
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: seven and three. If the Lines lose tonight, are you

704
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: guys leaving the division? I'm pretty sure, or maybe you're

705
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: tied for with Green Bay. It's just it's an incredible

706
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 3: spot to be through eleven weeks if you're a Bears team.

707
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: I just I can't believe they're a legit playoff contender.

708
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: Seven and three and don't look now, but we are

709
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: favorites against the Pittsburgh Steelers next week at all. It's

710
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna make it interesting.

711
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: My friend, Oh, okay, because that's that's a Mason rudolphline, though.

712
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Probably assuming assuming it who knows, Like at this point

713
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it in a second.

714
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: What could if I remember?

715
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 3: It was a favorite this morning, So that's why I

716
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: think it moves because Pittsburgh won big, it wouldn't move.

717
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah?

718
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Interesting? Okay, Simon, shame, shame, shame, shame. Who is your

719
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: shamed team unit player moment today?

720
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: David Canals. I got beef with him. Shame on you, David.

721
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 3: He coached that game in so many weird ways. I

722
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,240
Speaker 3: just hated it so much. Where his defense was dominating

723
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: that second half and he was playing he was coaching

724
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 3: Carolina offense like they were playing against an half juggernaut

725
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 3: on the other side.

726
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: Like they have an easy fourth and.

727
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: Two, kick a field goal, you'll be down by two

728
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: in the third quarter, he goes for it. Turnover, run downs, Okay,

729
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: not a big deal, right, those things happen. It's the

730
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: fourth quarter now, and when they're still in the same spot,

731
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: they are down by two points. This man goes for

732
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 3: it on his own I think thirty two luckily gets

733
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 3: it on fourth and one and then goes for it again.

734
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: And I think on his own forty on fourth and

735
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 3: one and doesn't get for it. This is when there's

736
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: like four minutes left in the game. He is all

737
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: three timeouts and once again, his defense to this point

738
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: is only given up three points and it's Kirk Cousins

739
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: on the.

740
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: Field, and this is what this man's doing.

741
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: Down two points, so he goes for his own forty

742
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: get stopped.

743
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: God, thank god. Once again, Kirk Cousins is the quarterback.

744
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: He goes three and out, so they have to kick

745
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: a field goal.

746
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: He is now down five and then gets the ball back,

747
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: so it's like, there is no he can't lie and say, well,

748
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: my guys told me to do. There is no math

749
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: that's telling you that's a good decision go from you

750
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: on third, especially when your defense is playing the way

751
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: they did in that second half.

752
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: And he just almost cost us.

753
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: And at that point I was losing my mind because

754
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: we had already basically at this point since I has

755
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: been blown out. And yeah, not that I was having

756
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 3: sick thoughts about Chad here, but I was definitely like,

757
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, he mushed my Carolina bet, making us

758
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: put it as goddamn contest.

759
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: But you did in Chad. They went out right, So

760
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: shame on David, but good for us.

761
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: Look, it's interesting because there's a little bit of a

762
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: comp with what and this isn't my shame, but Sean

763
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: McVay he wasn't aggressive enough with his play calling. I

764
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: think when it came to short yardage, kept running the ball,

765
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: kept running the ball in the middle of the field.

766
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he just felt like that's what

767
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: the only option was and that against that defense and

768
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: Stafford wasn't on one, but they did not put themselves

769
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: in a good position to put that game away. And

770
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: this has been a consistent theme with Sean McVay this year,

771
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: is he hasn't been aggressive enough in times when they

772
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: needed to be aggressive. So it's interesting to me, like

773
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: there's a perfect mirror there between what Canals was doing

774
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: when he was down and what McVeigh was doing when

775
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: he was up. Yeah, okay, my shame, shame, shame. How

776
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: can it not be the Houston Texans defense. But you

777
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: got cam Word on the five yard line with three

778
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: and a half four minutes left in the game to

779
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: ice it, and you let the guy go ninety five

780
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: yards multiple penalties, a thirty eight yard over the shoulder,

781
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: diving catch by their tight end. You're getting beat over

782
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: the top and covered by a tight end. You are

783
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: supposed to be the best defense in the league, and

784
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 1: I know you won the game, but you need to

785
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: be better than putting the ball back in the hands

786
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: of Davis Mills and hoping that guy who really has

787
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: not been adequate as a quarterback since v. J. Stroud

788
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: went out, even though you've won a couple of games,

789
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: look at his numbers. You're not one of those games

790
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: because of Davis Mills. Shame on you for putting the

791
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: ball back in his hands and making him be the

792
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: one who wins you a game that you had to have.

793
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: If you don't win that game, you're now a sub

794
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: five hundred team and the percentage chance you have in

795
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: making the playoff goes from thirty one percent if you're

796
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: where you are, which is five hundred to nine percent,

797
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: and you would be the only team in the history

798
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: of the NFL in the Super Bowl era to have

799
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: a defense that ranks at the top of the categories

800
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: that you rank at and not make the playoffs. Shame

801
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: on you, Houston Texans for letting cam Ward almost snatch

802
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: victory from the jaws of defeat. Shame, shame, shame, Simon.

803
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: Who is your hero of the week.

804
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,439
Speaker 3: It's gotta be Bryce Young, Bryce Young, You're my hero.

805
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: I just I can't believe it. We were deader than dead.

806
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 3: He had to throw for almost four hundred and fifty

807
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: yards three touchdowns, just an incredible performance. You know, this

808
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 3: is a guy that basically we had all left him

809
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: for dead career over. Andy Dlton got a car accident

810
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: and that little break whatever it was, the three four

811
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: games he had time off, I think came back and

812
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 3: once Andy got hurt.

813
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: He's just been a change man.

814
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 3: Even this year, he's had down games, but you know

815
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 3: we've been waiting for these type of games where he

816
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: just bounces back, and he did in a big way today.

817
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: So in my Hero of the week, Bryce Young, thank

818
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 3: you so much, sir for that cover.

819
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: My hero of the week is on the other side

820
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: of the ball. And this as equally responsible for our

821
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: other win today as Bryce Young was for the Panthers,

822
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: and that of course would be Miles Garrett. Four sacks

823
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: I think two tackles for loss. On the year, I

824
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: think he has fifteen sacks. I think ties him for

825
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: his career high in sacks, first guy to start his

826
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: career with twelve sacks or more in every season. Twenty

827
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: tackles for losses so far this year, his record for

828
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: that is twenty two. That was last year. Think about this,

829
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: the guy's got five games left and he's already who

830
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: already has been one of the greatest defensive ends in

831
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: NFL history, a record setting defensive end, and he has

832
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: five games to shatter all of his personal records. He's

833
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: the only reason we covered that game today. Every single

834
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: time it seemed like the Ravens had an opportunity to

835
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: move the ball down the field or to get a

836
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: little momentum, Miles Garrett was in Lamar Jackson's grill, and

837
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: I think it changed everything about that game. And I

838
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: just feel bad that he's got to play on a

839
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: team like the Browns, who I don't know, Maybe they'll

840
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: get lucky next year and draft Fernando Mendoza from Indiana University,

841
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: because that's the pace that they're on right now.

842
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the Browns never thought they'd have

843
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 3: a better a better player.

844
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: In the history of their franchise than Jim Brown. Miles

845
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: keeps us up for another two three years.

846
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: Give him a run.

847
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be really close, because just

848
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: we've never seen a freak athlete like this. You just

849
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 3: can stay healthy and consistently get his on a team

850
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: that you know he's the guy, and that's you got

851
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: to take him away, and you just you can't stop it.

852
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: So it's it truly as crazy to see what we're watching.

853
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Jim Brown, Osie Newsome, Bernie Cozar, Miles Garrett. I think

854
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: that's probably the top four right there for the Cleveland Browns.

855
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: All right, Simon says, was Las Vegas plus three and

856
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,959
Speaker 1: a half. Chad's choice was Cleveland plus eight and a half.

857
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Brass balls was the Rams minus three? Lost that one

858
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: rock and a hard plays Philadelphia minus two and a half.

859
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Sharp versus square. You can sense my bitterness on this

860
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: Houston game because they were my sharp versus square. You

861
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: had Carolina plus three and a half. Nice work the

862
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: favorites parallel. Are you ready? Rams ding ding ding ding ding,

863
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: Ravens ding ding ding ding ding, Houston ding ding ding

864
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: ding ding, Green Bay pushing against jamis at seven, but

865
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: they won and we got Philadelphia tonight' So we're four

866
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,959
Speaker 1: and oh and the favorite parlay, the underdog parlay. We

867
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: got Carolina, we lost with I think Arizona and Cincinnati.

868
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some Early Leans. One of our commenters

869
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 1: just wants us to know that brock Purty is back.

870
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: How do we feel about that? Do we think brock

871
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: Purty is back? Do we think this Niners team is

872
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: back with Brock Purdy?

873
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: I believe it.

874
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 3: When they win two games in a row, they just

875
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: don't win and cover there after they win a game.

876
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, we'll see if you look good today. Made

877
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,760
Speaker 3: some great throws, but that air airs in the defense.

878
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: It's a lot of weeks in a row now that

879
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: they just are giving up tons and tons of points.

880
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: Well, speaking of San Francisco and Early Leans, right now

881
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: they are seven point favorites against the Carolina Panthers, and

882
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football in week twelve, are Darling Panthers going

883
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: out to the Bay Area and there's seven point underdogs

884
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: against San Francisco.

885
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 3: I know, I can't believe it, Like my initiatistics is

886
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: exactly what you're alluding to. It's like, aren't we hammering

887
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: this Panthers number? This is the scene insane number. The

888
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: forty defense is so banged up. Yeah, they got it

889
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: with that take against Arizona, but Chad said it from

890
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: the top. I mean, forty seven completions NFL record is

891
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 3: what they gave up this week. Like this is still

892
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 3: a bad defense. So yeah, it can pretty get his.

893
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure it can. We just we saw Caroline's defense

894
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: get rolled. We've also seen Caroline's defense go on the

895
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: road and play pretty well in a couple of different spots,

896
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 3: like the did in Green Bay and against I mean,

897
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,280
Speaker 3: I guess it's the Jets don't really count, but still

898
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: they showed up. They got the stuff. So yeah, that's

899
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: for early lines. I'm gonna grab it and we'll see

900
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: as a week as long. I just can't believe that's

901
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: what they opened that.

902
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: Number at feels feels very very But they know.

903
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: What they're doing. It's on Monday night. They know they're

904
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: gonna take a lot of fight nunders money exactly.

905
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Another one that jumped out at me only because of

906
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: what happened this week. Tampa Bay. I don't have an

907
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: opinion on this game yet, but I want to get yours.

908
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay at the Rams. The Rams are six and

909
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: a half point favorites against the Bucks. If this is Tuesday,

910
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: we're having the same conversation. Doesn't this feel big for

911
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: the Bucks?

912
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

913
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: Again, what are we missing here? This is an insane,

914
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: insane number. So yeah, I got I'll be a sucker away.

915
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: They'll take it for now. But this is a definitely

916
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 3: a game I'm excited to who my model has it

917
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: at and I gotta dive more into. But the only

918
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 3: thing I think of is we're just underrating how bad

919
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 3: this Bucks defense is, and they've struggled against good passing offenses.

920
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: But my god, that is a lot of points to

921
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: get Baker after two really bad losses Like it just

922
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: we think, sure, he might lose three games in a row.

923
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can see him not covering

924
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 3: in three straight games. This just feels like a spot

925
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 3: to back Baker.

926
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get kicked in the head for

927
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: saying this, especially if you don't know what's happening tonight.

928
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: But next week, the New York Giants are visiting the

929
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. And if there's ever been a team that

930
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: will look to run the ball seventy five times against

931
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: a really bad rushing defense, it is the Detroit Lions

932
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: against the New York Football Giants. It's a huge number.

933
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: I get it. But I look at that and I think,

934
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: all right, maybe the Lions are going to lose tonight.

935
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: Maybe that's going to be where they get back home.

936
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: They play a really weak rushing defense and they get

937
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 1: an opportunity to thrive.

938
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 3: I think you're going somewhere totally different. Seattle minus twelve

939
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: and a half at Tennessee. I saw that that is

940
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: where you want to be chaed Seattle.

941
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: Off the loss.

942
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 3: They dominate bad teams, especially this year. They've absolutely throttled

943
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: bad teams.

944
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

945
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: It's just a horrible spot for Tennessee. I mean, just

946
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: I know they stole one today against Davis Mills. This

947
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: is Sam Darnold, get right, I'm with you.

948
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: I could totally see it.

949
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna grab this now because it's under thirteen. I

950
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 3: think this gets up to thirteen.

951
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: I just.

952
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 3: I'll probably get there within the lines. But for big,

953
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 3: big spreads early, I'm gonna grab that Seattle one.

954
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: All right?

955
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: What else am I missing?

956
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 2: Again? Just funky lines I don't get.

957
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: You can get Colts plus three and a half right

958
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: now against the Chiefs I get it, it's them outdoors,

959
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: it's Daniel Jones against this Chiefs team. But I don't

960
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 3: know if the Chiefs can stop Jonathan Taylor. Like I've

961
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,760
Speaker 3: seen their run defense, and I think this is actually

962
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: a real favorable matchup for this Colt team.

963
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 2: So that's just a line.

964
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 3: Just like with Denver, I'm gonna hit it early, just

965
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: see what the Pros do for it. Maybe this does

966
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: get driven up to four again just like it did.

967
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: But I am shocked they opened Colts plus three and

968
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: a half just just it seems like a good spot

969
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: where I get the public keeps back in this Chiefs team.

970
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 3: They can't keep losing. But that's that feels like a

971
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 3: heavy priced price to pay for that hook. I'm shocked

972
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: they opened it with a hook. A game you talked

973
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: a little bit about Pittsburgh is plus three.

974
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that game. I was just gonna say that game

975
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: moved from two and a half t.

976
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it just just in case Rogers risk

977
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: is fine and he gets comes back, even if it's

978
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph.

979
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: I honestly don't hate this number. I just.

980
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: It's like we keep saying this Bears team, it's got

981
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: to run out and all they do is win one

982
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: possession games. This is a one possession number, so Bears

983
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: could win it.

984
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: But by more than a field goal. I feel like

985
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 2: that's a hefty, hefty price to ask of this team.

986
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: All right, Look, we won with the Browns plus eight

987
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: and a half. We won with the Panthers plus three

988
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: and a half. We lost with the Rams minus three.

989
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: We lost with the Bengals plus five five and a half.

990
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: We got the Eagles tonight. The current line is two

991
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: and a half. We are two and two on the day.

992
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,520
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