1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: This is up on game Cock. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Bye Hush Bazada for the touchdowns. 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 3: This is the show for you, LeVar two with LeVar 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: airing Tech, TJ Housh, Benzada and Plaxic Cooe Burresj. 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 4: I love the way you break the game down. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 3: L A Man, you were jacked by my squad number 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 3: two overall and that's nine and. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Plaq Man, you are seven five seven product. Ain't everybody 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: who flat was growing. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: Up around her man three of the best to ever 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: do it on and off the field. Live from the 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studio. So Fox Sports Radio with 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: the guys out hearing is pro bowler LeVar iring Tech. 15 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: All right, well you heard it. Happy Saturday to everybody. 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: LeVar is alone today and that wasn't the third person 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 4: because well, I'm gonna be bringing a whole lot of 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 4: different angles to some of the. 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Conversations in sports to date. That's right. This is Fox 20 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 21 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 4: We are are broadcasting live from the ti raq dot 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 4: Com studios. It's tyraq dot com will help you get 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: there and unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free roadhazard protection 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: and over ten thousand recommended installers. Ti rat dot com 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 4: The way tire buying should be. NFL Awards are coming 26 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: up fast that the finalists have been announced. 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,279 Speaker 1: This is also an. 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 4: NFC Championship and AFC Championship weekend. We will get to 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 4: those topics, but we're gonna start with this NFL Awards deal. 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: I got kind of a theory on it, all right, 31 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: since I got the opportunity to have the mic, and 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 4: I'm not sharing it with TJ and Plex. They they 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 4: are handling family business. Obviously, sons and daughters are doing 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: very well in athletics, so they. 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Are moving around. 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: But I want to talk about this trickle down effect 37 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: that's going to come from the NFL Awards this year. 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: All right. 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: Now we're hearing all of the odds makers put out 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 4: there for the MVP of the Year, the NFL MVP 41 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: that you have the top guys being, obviously Josh Allen, 42 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Saquon Barkley. Now they put out the other 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 4: awards and we'll highlight those. We'll get to Offensive Player 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 4: of the Award at around in twenty twenty minutes or so, 45 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 4: we'll get to that, and we'll get to the rest 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 4: of awards around like, yeah, thirty minutes or so from 47 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: now Coach of the Year and the end of the hour. 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: But for now, let's talk about the MVP award, because respectfully, 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 4: I got to say this, if it's not going to 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 4: a quarterback, which we understand why it goes to the quarterback, 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: and I'll get to that at the end of my 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: my thought here, but if it's going to the person 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 4: off of pure merit, off of what this all represents, 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 4: it's got. 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: To be Saquon Barkley. And if there were a. 56 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: Debate to say that there were an MVP outside of 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: Sakwon Barkley that should get it, I think you got 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: to go with Lamar Jackson on this one. And it's 59 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: purely based upon huh, knowing that all of these guys 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 4: are most valuable to their teams. But if we're talking 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 4: about most Valuable player in the league, then all things given, 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: all of these finalists have met the criteria of being 63 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: the MVP of the league and of their team. So 64 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: what differentiates them? 65 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Right? 66 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: Let me think about this, Right, I thought about it. 67 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: I put it down and it was like, you got 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: to look at it from this perspective, right, sa Kwon 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: Barkley would have should have could have broke the coveted 70 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: forty year old record held by Eric Dickerson. That's the 71 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: single season rushing record. Now, when you think about it, 72 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: we're talking about an award for a single season. So 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: how would it be possible? How would it be possible 74 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 4: in a league where football Keep in mind, they promote 75 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: what teamwork? What else did they promote? They promote camaraderie, 76 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: They promote sacrifice and service and selflessness, all these strong 77 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: values and beliefs that the NFL has built their reputation on. 78 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: If that's the case, all things given, don't we look 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: at Sakuon Barkley not breaking the record as being more 80 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 4: impactful than him. 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: Breaking the records? Right? 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 4: And if I'm a voter, do not have to look 83 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 4: at this in terms of what Saquon Barkley could have 84 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 4: accomplished in this season had he not been a selfless person. 85 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: It just made me think about it. Right, You get 86 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 4: to the point of where you see a player basically 87 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: exercise in the moment of truth. His teammate's success, his 88 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 4: team's success, his community's success were more to him than 89 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 4: his own personal success. His efforts are the reason why 90 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles are in this game tomorrow. His numbers 91 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: state the truth. The fact of the matter is he 92 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: put this team on his back and their success has 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: run through them. So when you look at a most 94 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: valuable player of the league, everything everything that is connected to, 95 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: say Kwon Barkley screams the most valuable player in this league. 96 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: In fact, why Yata, why don't you throw out there 97 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: the Walter Payton Man of the Year. Who else has 98 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: served their team, their community and the league in the 99 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: way that Sakwon Barkley has in the most flattering manner. 100 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 4: He has done everything correctly. This is not me being 101 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: a Saquon Barkley apologist. 102 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: This is not me. 103 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: You know, everybody knows he's a Penn Stater. I'm a 104 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 4: Penn Stater. This is not me being a pro biased 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: Penn State former football player ringing the bell for Sakuon Barkley. 106 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is, just take a good look at 107 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: it when you think about it, if it's not Sakuon Barkley, Because. 108 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: How would a voter. 109 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 4: Not vote for Sakuon Barkley had he broke that forty 110 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: year old record. 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: You can't do it. 112 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: You cannot justify one of the greatest records in the 113 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 4: history of football. That would be like justifying not giving 114 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: a quarterback who broke the single season season passing record the. 115 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: MVP of the league. It doesn't work that way. 116 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 4: And to that point, we'll get into some stats and 117 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 4: you know, we'll back it up with some numbers. 118 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: To that point, if it's not going. 119 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: To Sakuon bark if the award does not go to 120 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 4: Sakuon Barkley, then why would it not go to one 121 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 4: or two other players? And this is no shade to 122 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, but why would the most Valuable Player of 123 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 4: the league not go to one Lamar Jackson or one 124 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. That's right, Joe Burrow's name isn't even on 125 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 4: the final list list. Do you realize that Joe Burrow 126 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: through for more yards than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson? 127 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: Do you realize that Joe Burrow threw for more touchdowns 128 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: than Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Most would say most 129 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: would debate the struggles of the Cincinnati Bengals was purely 130 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: based upon their inability to stop an offense from scoring points. 131 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. 132 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: Anyone would come to the table and say it was 133 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: not because of some of the most brilliant, stellar play 134 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: at the quarterback position by one Joe Burrow. His quarterback 135 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: rating was oneh eight. And we'll get into all of 136 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 4: that because you know, this is real interesting because there's 137 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: a trickle down effect on these awards because well, and 138 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: what seemingly is going to develop into who's going to 139 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: get what awards. We saw that Josh Allen's name wasn't 140 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: included an Offensive Player of the Year. Hint hint, spoiler alert. 141 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 4: His name was not included. So you get the idea 142 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 4: that Josh Allen's going to win the MVP of the 143 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: League award, and then it's going to fall down on well, well, 144 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 4: we'll talk about in the next segment. Sakwon Barkley will 145 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: win the Offensive Player of the Year award, which is 146 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: a Constellation prize, a consolation prize to winning the MVP 147 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: award as the league's MVP. And then we'll get into 148 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 4: who I believe should win that award. But we'll get 149 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: up to the end. Like I said, Noon twelve twenty, 150 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: for all of all on the East Coast, it's just 151 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to give you guys a thought process here, 152 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: like something to think on if we're going with a 153 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 4: quarterback because obviously it's more important. It's not the meritocracy 154 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: of how you play the game at the league level. 155 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 4: It's all about driving the value all the way up 156 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: as high as you can behind one singular position in 157 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: the league, and that's the quarterbacks position. So at some 158 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: point there has to be an admission of this is 159 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: a quarterbacks award, not a league wide award. We don't 160 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: see defenders being in the mix of winning the award. 161 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 4: Even though we have had, you know, a guy like 162 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 4: the likes of Lawrence Taylor win the award before, we 163 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 4: have not seen any defenders make any real appearances on 164 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 4: the list, and you don't see any other player besides 165 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 4: quarterbacks win the award, which is very interesting because then 166 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: you make the de facto award the offensive player of 167 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 4: the year. It's like everybody else you could get this award, 168 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 4: but the MVP of the league belongs with the quarterback. 169 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 4: I feel like it would make more sense to just 170 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 4: tell your listening and viewing audience that that's what it is, 171 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 4: so we can stop having these debates, because it seems 172 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: silly to have to debate something that was accomplished by 173 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 4: Sakwon Barkley in this particular moment, in this instance where 174 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: the greatness of what he brought to this season you 175 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 4: may not see for another what forty years, thirty years, 176 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: you may not see this brilliance happen again, And yet 177 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 4: it won't be rewarded properly in the way that it 178 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: should be rewarded, which is being deemed the most valuable 179 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 4: NFL player in the league. That's my take on it, 180 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 4: and well, you know, you can agree, you could disagree. 181 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 4: I got the microphone, so it doesn't matter. It's my take, 182 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: and we get to run with it. That is the 183 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: first segment down. It's in the books. We're gonna take 184 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: a quick break, and on the other side of the break, 185 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: we're gonna talk about, Yeah, Saquan is gonna win the 186 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: Offensive Player of the Year award, but the question is 187 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: should he who should win it, and why they should 188 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: win it? And I just tell you this spoiler alert, 189 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: it ain't Josh Allen either. So the MVP of the league, 190 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: perceivably that's gonna be crowned and named this year, shouldn't 191 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: even be the Offensive Player of the Year. And I'm 192 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 4: gonna tell you why. On the other side of this break, 193 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: it's up on Game. I'm LeVar Arrington, TJ and Plex 194 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: are out. 195 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: That's all right. 196 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna carry you for the next two hours. Stay 197 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: locked in, stay tuned in. We'll talk a little bit 198 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 4: more football. 199 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: On the other side of this break. 200 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back into the show. This is up 201 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: on Game. We are alive from the tyraq dot Com studio. 202 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 4: LeVar Arrington. I will be carrying you by myself today 203 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: because the fellas are handling some family matters. So good 204 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: luck and enjoy all those those things that y'all got 205 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 4: going on in the sporting world and the sporting community. 206 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 4: And speaking of sporting community, we're going to keep this 207 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 4: trickle down effect going, the NFL awards trickle down effect. 208 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 4: We'll get to the rest of the awards and just 209 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 4: maybe ten minutes or so, we'll say we'll call in, 210 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: then we'll talk Coach of the Year to in out 211 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: the hour, and then we'll get into these NFL previews 212 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 4: that I'm sure everybody's really excited to see and watch. 213 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 4: But let's talk about Saquon Barkley. All Right, we said 214 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 4: he should win. I say he should win the NFL 215 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 4: MVP Awards. So now how does that play a part 216 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: in the Offensive Player of the Year award. Obviously I 217 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,239 Speaker 4: believe my pick. So so far my pick for NFL 218 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: MVP is going to be Josh Allen. Then the trickle 219 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 4: down effect because Saquon Barkley does not get what he 220 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: should get in getting the MVP of the League, he 221 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: gets the Offensive Player of the Year award, which is 222 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: now very interesting because everything is now topsy turvy in 223 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 4: terms of who really should get these awards because now 224 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 4: you have the MVP of the Award of the Year 225 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: getting the Offensive Player of the Year award, which now 226 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 4: knocks out three other guys that should be getting this 227 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 4: award should be in debate, up for debate who gets 228 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 4: this award in particular, and it does not include Josh Allen. 229 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: Where am I going with this? 230 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, who I just mentioned in the 231 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: first first segment. 232 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: And Derrick Henry. 233 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 4: Okay, so now you look at these three Sakuan's going 234 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 4: to take that. So three of those guys they will 235 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: not get at that award. So why do I say Henry, 236 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: Why do I say Jackson? Why do I say Burrow 237 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: and not Josh Allen? Well, think about this, both, Lamar 238 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: Jackson and Joe Burrow had better years than Josh Allen. 239 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's passer rating. 240 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: One oh one point four, Joe Burrow's one oh eight 241 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 4: point five, Lamar Jackson's one nineteen point six. That's a 242 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: high passer rating. That's super impressive. Oh. Culminated with four thousand, 243 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy two yards and forty one touchdowns 244 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: to Josh Allen's three thousand, seven hundred and thirty one 245 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 4: yards and twenty eight touchdowns. 246 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: That's a very very real difference. Oh. By the way, 247 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. 248 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: Four thousand, nine hundred and eighteen yards and forty three tds, 249 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: talk to me, because I'm trying to understand it. The 250 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: only reason why Lamar Jackson stands up to Joe Burrow 251 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: for the award would be because of Lamar Jackson's nine 252 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: hundred and fifteen rushing yards during the course of the season. 253 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: Nine hundred and fifteen rushing yards as a quarterback. Now, 254 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 4: where does Dereck Henry come into the scenario here? Because 255 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: I think Derrick Henry should be strongly considered for the award. 256 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: He ran for. 257 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: Nineteen one hundred and twenty one yards in the A 258 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: FC North. 259 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: If you don't know what that means, check it out. 260 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: Forty one touchdowns or excuse me, excuse me, not forty 261 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: one touchdowns because that's that's uh Lamar Jackson. But in 262 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 4: terms of touchdowns he had eighteen in seventeen games. So 263 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 4: when I look at the impact of Derrick Henry on 264 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: this Baltimore Ravens offense, one would say, your first read 265 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: has to be one run against the Baltimore Ravens. Which 266 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: now that is not the case across the league. This 267 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 4: is a pass first league. So the first thing you 268 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 4: have to do in this game against this team is 269 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 4: you have to play the run. The second thing you 270 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: have to do is you have to pinpoint who is 271 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: the biggest threat upon reading the run. That's going to 272 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: be Derrik Henry. You may think it's Lamar Jackson, but 273 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: it ain't. It's Derrick Henry. And that moment of trying 274 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: to figure out is Derek Henry getting the ball on 275 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 4: that RPO play and Lamar Jackson pulls it out and 276 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: goes down the field and gets up to nine hundred 277 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: just shy of thousands, just north of one thousand yards rushing. 278 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 4: I would have to say this being Lamar Jackson's best 279 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: year statistically in total yards, going over five thousand yards 280 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: in total yards. This is a direct and I mean 281 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 4: a direct result of Derrick Henry's presence on this team. 282 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: Five eighty seven yards it was. Now, if you're telling 283 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 4: me that they get that Lamar Jackson impacts his team 284 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 4: with that amount of yards without Derrick Henry on the roster, 285 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 4: I'd say it's a foolish assertion. But when you look 286 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: at the impact that Dereck Henry was able to have 287 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: on this team and the success he was able to have, 288 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 4: that to me makes it a very very strong case 289 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 4: for him to be up for the Offensive Player of 290 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 4: the Year award. There's no doubt about it. There's no 291 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 4: doubt about it. So if it's not Lamar Jackson in 292 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 4: the phenomenal year that he had statistically, which we'll say 293 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: is based upon the arrival and the participation of Derrick Henry, 294 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 4: if it's not Lamar Jackson, then it has to be 295 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. You cannot hold Joe Burrow accountable fully for 296 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: a defense that gave up more touchdowns than you could 297 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: shake a stick at. In him trying to win games, 298 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: his defense did not hold up the bargain for him. 299 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: So we're going to continue to trickle down effect, right 300 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, we'll get to 301 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. He is going to get an award. He 302 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: is going to get an award. I believe he'll get 303 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 4: an award, and we'll talk about that because it's a 304 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 4: part of the rest of the awards. Yeah, but Saquon 305 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: Barkley will win the Offensive Player of the Year award, 306 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 4: that is for certain. And why you wouldn't include Josh 307 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: Allen and Jared Gov's name in the final list lists 308 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 4: versus putting you know, Chase and putting you know obviously 309 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: Saquon and Derrick Henry. I just think that I don't know, 310 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: it's confusing if you ask me, it just comes across 311 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: as a tap bit confusing because ultimately the most valuable 312 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 4: player on the offensive side of the ball, Well, I 313 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 4: just highlighted. 314 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: It for you. 315 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: If you were looking at it from a stats standpoint, 316 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: then it should be Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow. If 317 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: we're looking at it from a total stats standpoint in 318 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 4: terms of the assistance and the amount of success that 319 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 4: this player had and what that did to impact another 320 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: player that played at such a high level and put 321 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: up such high numbers, and you got to look at 322 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 4: Derek Henry as the clear favorite to be the most 323 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: impactful if not Saquon Barkley. And the only reason why 324 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 4: I would say not Saquon Barkley is because obviously I 325 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: felt like he should win the larger award, which now 326 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 4: brings you back to the original point of aren't you 327 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 4: trying to figure out how josh Allen is going to 328 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 4: be the National Football Player of the Year, the MVP? 329 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 4: I know I am? I know I am, because there's 330 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 4: nothing that says outside of a totally subjective approach, a 331 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: total emotional approach, to why Josh Allen should win. There 332 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: really is nothing that is in favor of him outside 333 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: of what would be considered to be an emotional investment 334 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 4: as to why this young man should win the award. 335 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I do. 336 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 4: I think that's a pretty good take on it, because well, 337 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: I feel like the facts kind of stay out on 338 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: their own. 339 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: He's the third. 340 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 4: Best statistically by quarterback rating this year, third best to 341 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson terms in those categories we're 342 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 4: speaking of, So I don't know, so are we considering 343 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 4: Josh a better leader than Joe Burrow or Lamar Jackson. 344 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 4: Are we looking at the record and saying that the 345 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 4: record because that doesn't distinguish it either. What are we 346 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: looking at that sets Josh Allen apart to be the 347 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: MVP of the league? And I think that that's the 348 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 4: question that well, you'll have to answer on your own. 349 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 4: But he nonetheless is my pick for the MVP of 350 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: the league, and Sakwon Barkley will be your Offensive Player 351 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 4: of the Year. We'll get to the rest of the awards, 352 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: Comeback Player, Defensive Player, Offensive Rookie, Defensive Rookie. We'll get 353 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 4: to those on the other side of this break. But 354 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: let's get a trending from our guy, Isaac Lohingcrow. How 355 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 4: you doing, sir? Do I sound crazy? 356 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: I low? Or do I mean like I'm making some 357 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: vallid points here? 358 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 5: You sound crazy most of the time, but actually not. 359 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Like that, Oh dann, so try harder. 360 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: So how do you like flying solo? 361 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: That's cool, it's cool. 362 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: It gives me an opportunity to kind of say what's 363 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 4: on my mind a little bit and get a little 364 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: bit more deeper in the weeds. You know, get off 365 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 4: of the surface a little bit. 366 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 5: You know you're doing great. I'm joining it. 367 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I appreciate it, man. 368 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 6: And you were right when you texted me earlier today 369 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 6: that PLAQUESAICO and TJ are dead weight. 370 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: Damn yeah, how about it? How about it? 371 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 5: Just kidding guys, I. 372 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: Did not say that, fellas, I know, I know I 373 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: did not say that. 374 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 5: I mean, they know you'd never text me. 375 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 7: All right, let's start. 376 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: Give me your number. Man, that's a connection over on 377 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: on National radio. 378 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 5: That's a good point. 379 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 6: I mean, we're like Facebook, we're Facebook friends, right because 380 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 6: I see you posting every five minutes about your Penn Staker. 381 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: There you go, love it about Penn State. 382 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: Well well, with good reason, with good reason. 383 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 6: Hey, we had a great story in the Australian Open 384 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 6: Ladies earlier today, American Madison Keys winning her first career 385 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 6: grand slamming upset fashion over world number one Arena Sablenka. 386 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 6: Here is how match points sounded on Australian Open Radio. 387 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 4: Sabelenka is ready, says case. 388 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 7: Coach with the big backhand picks up on the hot 389 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 7: folly by Sabelenka, huge hole hand from Keys well defended. 390 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: She's done it. 391 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 7: The Lone Races Ova to Madison Kys. She is the 392 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 7: Australian Open. 393 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: Champion in the NFL. 394 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 6: On Friday night, the Dallas Cowboys hired offensive coordinator Brian 395 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 6: Schottenheimer as their new head. 396 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 5: Coach, put me in coach. 397 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 6: NFL media report Schottenheimer is receiving a four year contract. 398 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 6: I've been thinking about it alta shower. 399 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 5: I'll just take your word for it there, Jerry. 400 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: I don't have the patience to jack with you today. 401 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 5: Get out of here. 402 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: Am I still on line? 403 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 5: Anyway? 404 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 6: The San Francisco forty nine ers mean on Friday and night, 405 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 6: had hired former Jets head coach Robert Sala for his 406 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 6: second stint as their defensive coordinator. So only one head 407 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,239 Speaker 6: coaching opening remains in the NFL, that being the New 408 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 6: Orleans Saints. LeVar back to you. 409 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: Appreciate it a loo? All right? 410 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 4: That's an interesting update. There's some nice little sound effects 411 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 4: you had there. 412 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: Uh. 413 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 4: Rest of the awards all right? So here comes the 414 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: continued on trickle down effect. Who do we believe should 415 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: get the Comeback Player of the Year award? 416 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: Do you wanna? Do you want to take a stab 417 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: at it? Perfect? 418 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 4: Do you want take a stab at it, bo do 419 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: you do? You guys want to take a stab at 420 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: who should get the Comeback Player of the Year. 421 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Somebody? Yeah, Sam Darnell. 422 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 8: I think I think that's pretty much the answer at 423 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 8: this point. Like the Sam Darnald considering how written off 424 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 8: his career had been, and I look, we we understand 425 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 8: Week eighteen and in the playoffs after that was bad, 426 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 8: But I don't think that erasist seventeen good games of 427 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 8: performance from him. 428 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, especially since the voting is not supposed to count 429 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: for the postseason, regular season just supposed to be taking 430 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 6: a consideration. I'm biased, but I would like to throw 431 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,719 Speaker 6: in a vote, even though I don't think he's nest 432 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 6: throw in JK. 433 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 7: Dobbins. 434 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: Hmm, that's an interesting one. 435 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: You know who I think is going to receive this 436 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: award as a as a just kind of adore prize, 437 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: because you know what, why would we not give you 438 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 4: any awards when you had an amazing, an amazing, amazing season. 439 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. 440 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: Think about it, Joe Burrow should be considered the comeback 441 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 4: Player of the Year and should receive the ward. And 442 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: if he does get it, if I am right, it's 443 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 4: the losers. It's the losers a bonus award for the year. 444 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: So now you've taken Comeback Player of the Year and 445 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 4: you made it, you made it like a joke. Because 446 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow should be in the mix for these other awards. 447 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: He's not going to get it. 448 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: So if you're going to give him the Comeback Player 449 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 4: of the War because he did come back and he 450 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: did ball his ass off this year, then now you've 451 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: bumped one Sam Darnold back, which I guess you could 452 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: call him a comeback. He's considered it, he's on the list, 453 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 4: he's considered to be a comeback player. I mean, I 454 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: guess he's coming back from being a bench warmer. I'm 455 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 4: not really sure what he's coming back from. Do you 456 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 4: guys know what exactly what he's coming back from, because 457 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: I don't really know what he's coming back from. Yeah, 458 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 4: I don't know either. And so with that being said, 459 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 4: I almost feel like you gotta go with Joe Burrow 460 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: as your comeback Player of the Year. He came back, 461 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: he played well, and his numbers don't lie. So I 462 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 4: tend to look at where Joe Burrow is and what 463 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: he's been able to accomplish and I feel like he 464 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 4: should be the hands down favored to get it. 465 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: Now. 466 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: I don't even think he's on there. I don't even 467 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 4: think he's up for consideration. But that's my that's my opinion. 468 00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: I don't know. 469 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Is he on there? Is he on the list? 470 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 9: Joe Burrow on the Lissa, Yes he is, Actually it is. 471 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 9: It's Burrow Donald Dobbins. 472 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: Which there you go. 473 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 7: The Hamlin's a very interesting one. 474 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,239 Speaker 8: I feel like they're just going to keep putting his 475 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 8: name in there until he eventually wins one. 476 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 4: But hmm, interesting I find out to be interesting. I mean, 477 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 4: there's certainly to me, there's no Sam Darnald is the 478 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 4: only one on the list that I would say stands 479 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: up to Joe Burrow. And if Joe Burrow is up 480 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: for a different award and is able to possibly some 481 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: way win it, then it should go to Sam Darnald. 482 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 4: But if Joe Burrow doesn't get any of the other 483 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: awards above that one, I think that it goes to 484 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow. That's what I think. 485 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: It's the Loser's Award this year is the Comeback Player. 486 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 8: I believe they had changed some of the wording on 487 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 8: comeback Player of the Year too. It just had to 488 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 8: be returning to sport after injury, illness or other circumstances. 489 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 7: So I think in that case, Burrow is the one 490 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 7: who kind of. 491 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 8: Fits that mold the best, definitely more than Sam Donald, 492 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 8: because I guess by that definition, nothing really there is 493 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 8: Sam Darnald overcoming. 494 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 7: He's just overcoming, you know, being a backup. Stuck. Yeah, 495 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 7: stuck in in in a QB purgatory for so long. 496 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, a backup is what it is. 497 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 7: Okay, he was haunted, Yeah, he's haunted. 498 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: He was. 499 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 4: He was saying, No, that's why Autumn Picks was taking place. 500 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: Casper was taking it. It was swiping him. All right, 501 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: Let's move on to defensive player of the year. All right, 502 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: Defensive player of the year. It's obviously between Watt and 503 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: Certain the second. Here's why I say it's hard to 504 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: go with Pat certain the second, even though his his 505 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 4: season has been brilliant, all right, because it's just hard 506 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 4: it's hard to to monetize or or not monetize, but 507 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 4: kind of quantify how big of an impact he had. 508 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 4: I know that the numbers say, you know, the fifty 509 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 4: percent lower than sixty percent when quarterbacks go his way, 510 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: and you know he takes away your best receiver. 511 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: It's hard. 512 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 4: It's hard to look at it when it doesn't show 513 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: up all the way in the stats. 514 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: If you guys know what I mean, Like. 515 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: Four interceptions doesn't scream you had the type. 516 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: Of year that. 517 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: Would call for you to be the defensive rookie of 518 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 4: the year. There have been plenty of dbs, you know, 519 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 4: Champ Bailey comes to mind, there have been a Darrel 520 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: Reeves comes to mind. There have been guys that have 521 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: locked down and shut down sides of a field to 522 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 4: help their team. It's just hard to put where the 523 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 4: value of it is. 524 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: How high do you take it up? 525 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: Whereas when I look at what JJ Watt has done, 526 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: fourteen tackles for a loss is cool razy. That's a 527 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: crazy statistic because in reality, you can count a tackle 528 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 4: for a loss. It's no different than a sack. You've 529 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 4: put stress and the rest on the offense by stopping 530 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 4: them behind their own line of scrimmage. Not to mention 531 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,719 Speaker 4: what you got to be doing as a player, especially 532 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: a highlighted player like TJ Watt and being able to 533 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: get to the ball carrier in the backfield. 534 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. And his sack totals. 535 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: Sack totals are super high. 536 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's double digits. Guy. 537 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: I just don't I just don't know how you can 538 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 4: take and say, well, he locked down there one receiver. 539 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: They didn't throw the ball his way much, but when 540 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: they did, they didn't do very well when they threw 541 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 4: it his way. Oh, but he only had four interceptions. 542 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 4: I think his interception totals needed to be higher if 543 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: it was going to be a legitimate He's getting it 544 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: over what TJ. 545 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: Watt has done. 546 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: So if I'm picking for Defense Player of the Year, 547 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 4: I look at TJ. Watt and I say he's got 548 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: to be the one that wins it. Unless you were 549 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 4: looking at pat Certain and the turnaround of this Denver 550 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: Broncos team, and you're saying the sole catalyst of why 551 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 4: this team turned around the way that it did and 552 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 4: was able to accomplish at the level that it did 553 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 4: was based upon Patricks Certain's influence on the whole team, 554 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 4: which I mean that would be up for debate. Obviously, 555 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year for offense, no debate there. Jaydon 556 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: Daniels is the guy that's going to get it. He's 557 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 4: the most deserving of it, and he's he turned out 558 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: to be what appears to be the generational talent that's 559 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: come out in the last few drafts at the quarterbacks position. 560 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: It looks as though he's just different. 561 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: And for that, I mean, I think it's a foregone 562 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: conclusion that you look at Jayden and Daniels. 563 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: As you're a rookie of the year. Can somebody else 564 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: argue it? 565 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 9: I mean, Jayden Daniel's gonna win plenty of deserving. That's 566 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 9: I think. When a rookie comes in and is immediately 567 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 9: the best player at their position, okay, their name should 568 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 9: be mentioned more. Okay, I think it's Brock Bowers, to 569 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 9: be honest with. 570 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 4: You, Brock Bowers is a great name, not qu a quarterback. 571 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 9: Tighten in football already is a rookie. I think if 572 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 9: Jaydon Daniels didn't win twelve games this year, you'd see 573 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 9: a lot more steam for Brock Powers. But I think 574 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 9: he deserves a little more shine than he's gonna get 575 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 9: given given the Daniels is gonna run away with this reward. 576 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have any any problem with Brock 577 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 4: Bowers being a name that's thrown out there and debate it, 578 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: but nonetheless, it's Jaydon Daniels. It's Jaydon Daniels by a landslide, 579 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 4: not even close now, but one that isn't a landslide 580 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 4: and will be close. 581 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Who wins Defensive Rookie of the Year? Is it Fisk 582 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: or is it Verse? I don't know. 583 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: Fisk had more sacks, Verse had more tackles. Who had 584 00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: more impact? It's hard to say. It's hard to say, 585 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: but wow, you had both of them on the same team, 586 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 4: which is pretty cool. I think if I gotta go 587 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: with it and make a hard decision on what I 588 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: really really feel based off of impact, it's gotta be Fisk. 589 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 4: It's gotta be Fisk that gets it because to do 590 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 4: what he is able to do, be as versatile as 591 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 4: he is, the impact that he's brought to that defensive 592 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 4: line I think is probably unmatched even by Verse along 593 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 4: the entire throughout the entire league. So I'm gonna go 594 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 4: with Fisk as as the guy that's going to win 595 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 4: the Rookie Defensive Player of the Year. Brandon Fisk. We're 596 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: gonna take a quick break on the other side of it. 597 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 4: We're going to talk Coach of the year. There's a 598 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: strong case to be made for Campbell. But should it 599 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 4: be someone else, we'll talk about that. We'll come right back. 600 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: All right, this is Up on Game. I'm LeVar Arrington. 601 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: We're gonna take a quick break as Fox Sports Radio. 602 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 4: All right, yeah, huh, We welcome back, Y'all's Up on Game. 603 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 4: We live from the tyrack dot com studios. 604 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: Listen up. 605 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 4: Shortly after the show, the podcast will be going up. 606 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 4: If you miss any of today's show, don't be worried 607 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 4: about that. 608 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: Just check out the podcast. 609 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: Search up on Game wherever it is you get your podcasts, 610 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 4: and be sure to follow rate review the podcast. 611 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: Again, just search. 612 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: Up on Game wherever it is you get your podcasts, 613 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 4: and you'll see today's show posted right after. 614 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: I get off the air and you check out you 615 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: know Jonas Knox. All right, so listen though, guys. I 616 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: we'll finish this out. 617 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 4: We're going to talk the previews of the game at 618 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 4: the start of the next hour, So we're going to 619 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: get into those things, and just a matter of well 620 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: ten minutes or so, we're going to talk NFC first 621 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 4: and get down to business with that man. We'll talk 622 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 4: some Bill Belichick, too before we wrap up the show. 623 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 4: But right now, Coach of the Year, all right, Now, obviously, 624 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: the Minnesota Vikings have had an amazing year. 625 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: Against all odds, right. 626 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 4: They were able to have one of the more impressive 627 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 4: seasons in Minnesota history with Sam Darnold. Now, we don't 628 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: know if it was going to be JJ McCarthy. I 629 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: think we all know that we don't think that it 630 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 4: would have lasted being Sam Donald if he had been 631 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 4: the one. 632 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: To start off the season. 633 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 4: But that is, you know, just kind of an opinion 634 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 4: that's not based off of fact. What is fact is 635 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 4: that Sam Donald had an amazing year as a journeyman 636 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 4: QB and throwing for over four thousand yards and thirty 637 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: five tds and a passer rating over one hundred and 638 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 4: that one oh six point four. This was one of 639 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 4: the most impressed coaching jobs in the National Football League. 640 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's without a doubt. 641 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: Now, with that being said, Dan Campbell and I don't 642 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 4: think it's even arguable Dan Campbell most likely possibly, I 643 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 4: don't know that it does happen, but with what he's 644 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 4: had to overcome to achieve what he's achieved this season, 645 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: especially knowing that you don't include the playoffs. I'm just 646 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 4: saying if i'm if I'm a voter. While I was 647 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 4: very impressed. While I was very impressed with what Minnesota 648 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 4: was able to do, one Dan Campbell overcame more so 649 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 4: who had more? Do you have to off the top 650 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 4: of your head, because I know you're a big, a 651 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 4: big Lions fan and that's your team and everything, perfet 652 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 4: What do you know the list of, offhand, how many 653 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 4: guys he had go go out for the season. 654 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,240 Speaker 7: It's more than I can count on my hand. 655 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 8: Wow, I hands plural, I should say, And I know 656 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 8: definitely among defensive starters you had lost like Aiden Hutchinson. 657 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 4: Otis heel that was the defensive player of the year 658 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 4: right there. 659 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 7: And multiple multiple weeks after he had gone out. 660 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,439 Speaker 8: How he was still a leader in sacks first first 661 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 8: for the NFL, but then for the Lions team. You 662 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 8: know they they had massive turnover at the linebacker unit 663 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 8: as well, Like that front seven was massively decimated through 664 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 8: the year. Carlton Davis leaves for the year with a 665 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 8: broken jaw. Like I get the arguments for Kevin O'Connell, 666 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 8: but I think you look around there and see what 667 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 8: Dan Campbell did with that team and also Coach of 668 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 8: the Year. Is also about meeting expect I know sometimes 669 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 8: we don't give enough credit to coaches for meeting expectations, 670 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 8: but Dan Campbell's Lions did also with all of this happening, 671 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 8: win fifteen games, win the NFC North, and a first 672 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 8: round by on top of everything, it seems crazy. I 673 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 8: feel like I want to give some love to Dan 674 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 8: Quinn for how he's turned around the commander's job. 675 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 4: I love that. I love that one. Yeah, that's it. 676 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 4: That's a name to throw in there. 677 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 8: I know O'Connell is like probably the top pick, but 678 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,439 Speaker 8: I'd either take Campbell or Quinn one of the two. 679 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 7: Dans in my mind. 680 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 4: Had him on my list, had had him on my 681 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 4: list of coaches. Obviously, what he's done in Washington has 682 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 4: been amazing. But if I'm making the pick, I think 683 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 4: it's gonna be Dan Campbell that gets it. But we 684 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 4: may see O'Connell get it. Anyways, it's our one. It's 685 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio that's up on Game Hour two, coming 686 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 4: at you next