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Speaker 1: M HM. Welcome to episode two eighty two of the

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Speaker 1: Bobby Cast. We will talk to Walker Hayes, We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to Kayleie Shore, Eddie and I will talk about the

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Speaker 1: horrible original names of your favorite bands, or bands at

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Speaker 1: least that you know of, and Eddie interviews if you're

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Speaker 1: a classic rock fan. John Dinsmore from The Doors, which

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Speaker 1: have had it so uh pretty cool there. I will

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Speaker 1: start with this. I was reading it came out yesterday

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Speaker 1: that Dolly Parton asked them to stop trying to push

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Speaker 1: that bill to get a statue of her up. I'll

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Speaker 1: read you her message. Dolly said, I want to thank

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee Legislature for their consideration of a bill to

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Speaker 1: erect a statue of me on the Capitol grounds. I'm

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Speaker 1: honored and humbled by their intention, but I've asked the

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Speaker 1: leaders of the state legislator to stop and remove the

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Speaker 1: bill from any consideration. Given all that's going on in

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Speaker 1: the world, I don't think putting me out a pedestal

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Speaker 1: is appropriate at this time. I hope though, that somewhere

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Speaker 1: down the road several years from now or perhaps after

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Speaker 1: I'm gone. If you still phil I deserve it, then

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Speaker 1: I'm certain I will stand proud in our great state

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Speaker 1: capital as a grateful Tennessee in. In the meantime, I'll

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Speaker 1: continue to try to do as good as I can

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Speaker 1: make the state proud. Dolly Parton, that's why we should

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Speaker 1: put it up right now. She just further why we

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Speaker 1: for her. Dolly's awesome. She just continues to be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Just when you think Dolly can't be any more awesome,

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Speaker 1: she's even more awesome. So we'll start with that. I

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Speaker 1: do want to do some new music out this week,

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Speaker 1: like we always do. Let's do smith Field at number five.

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Speaker 1: They have a new song out called Sunday Best Sunday.

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Speaker 1: At number four, Landy Wilson has a new album out

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Speaker 1: called Saying What I'm Thinking. It features her song Neon

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Speaker 1: Diamonds Hill for Champagne and Crystal spiel And here is

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Speaker 1: the title track from that record called Saying What I'm Thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm out been drinking leave them Saying thank You. At

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Speaker 1: number three. Walker Hayes, who will talk to in just

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Speaker 1: Hope You Miss Me And here's a club of that.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're living out the house that's where you are.

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Speaker 1: He said to go and baby job and the city

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Speaker 1: of that just you should say you want the party. Baby.

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Speaker 1: Love that guy, love his style. We'll talk to him.

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Speaker 1: Coming up in a little bit at number two. Is

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Speaker 1: Kayleie sure? Now? This song I'm Gonna Play You came

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Speaker 1: whole song is about that girl Amy hooking up with

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Speaker 1: Apparently she was friends with this Amy girl who's an

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Speaker 1: Kaylee Shore and her song Amy. And finally at number one,

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Speaker 1: Adam Hambroke has a new EP called The Flip Sides.

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Speaker 1: Here is a new song from Adam called Broken Ladder chowm.

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Speaker 1: I'm clowning on Broken Letter. That's cool man. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Those are the five things musically that I'm looking forward to.

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Speaker 1: Um Music News this week, the A c M s

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Speaker 1: The annual Academy of Country Music Awards are going on

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Speaker 1: April eighteenth on CBS again live performances from all three

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Speaker 1: Kenny Chesney is mourning the loss of a friend killed

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Speaker 1: That sucks for Kenny. Miranda Lamberts announced she'll be performing

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Speaker 1: for sure. Keith Urban returns to the Voice Australia. He

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Speaker 1: season ten. He will coach alongside read To Aura and Jessica,

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Speaker 1: the Voice in Australia. And finally, this week four Non

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Speaker 1: talk about the bands you didn't know where named this

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Speaker 1: Mookie Blaylock, Mookie Blaylock, and that was their original name,

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Speaker 1: these are the band's original names. See if you can

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Speaker 1: guess them right, The Sex Maggots, the sex Pistols. No,

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Speaker 1: who's Trent Resident? Oh no, no there, wait, Trent residuc Is? Wait,

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Speaker 1: Who's who the resident? Johnny Trent Resin is a little

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Speaker 1: bit of both, right, Yes, the answer is Johnny Resin.

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Speaker 1: Imagine they were still called sex maggots. It just didn't fit, right.

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Speaker 1: I saw them six or seven times in My Life Live, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Good Life. I saw him like two years ago.

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Speaker 1: I love you. Okay, that's a good one too, sing

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Speaker 1: it Hello, I'm trying to the other what's the other one?

421
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 1: A big one? Huhh? When something is not Oh, break

422
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: all to the other side, break all through. That's it.

423
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: That's tough that those are all Doors songs. The lead

424
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: singer's dad. You asked him about him. Yes, we do

425
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: talk about Jim a little bit. And Eddie Vetter filled

426
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: in for him. So when they were inducted in the

427
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they played uh, and

428
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: Eddie Vetter filled in for Jim and it was really good.

429
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm again Pearl Jam fans. So I loved it,

430
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: he said absolutely, like it was awesome to have Eddie

431
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: up there. A lot of resemblance to Jim, for sure.

432
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: He said that if you had to pick one person

433
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: that's filled in that spot, it would be Eddie better.

434
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,880
Speaker 1: He was the best break on to the others were

435
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: talking about drugs. It's kind of like, you know, could

436
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: they function back in the day, like which no one's

437
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: ever come on and do an interview. That's not me.

438
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you doing this. And of course did

439
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: you have fund doing it at a blast? And I

440
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: was the last one in the day to talk to him.

441
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of like a tour or whatever. Uh,

442
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: And so I had kind of a limited time. How

443
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: long did you got hours? You went three? It was

444
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes. Really yeah, pretty good though. All right,

445
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: that's coming up in a little bit here. Thank you

446
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: guys for hanging up on with us right now. Walker Hayes, Walker,

447
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: how are you? What's up? Man? What are you doing

448
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: your home? I'm sitting at home responding to some emails, man,

449
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: That's what I do these days. What are you doing?

450
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm sitting at home in the snow and ice, looking

451
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: out the window, wondering if I'll ever get out of

452
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: this place. Have you gone sledding yet? No, we haven't

453
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: gone sledding because we don't have anywhere around here to

454
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: sled and we don't have any sleds. So I guess, now,

455
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: where do you? Where are you sledging? Is it like

456
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: a hill near your house because we have nothing? Yeah,

457
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: across our street we have a little hill that goes

458
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: down to a ravine. Man. And so all my kids

459
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: are taking the skateboard wheels off of their skateboards and

460
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: they just it's like they just snowboards down it every day.

461
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: How many of your kids, and I watch your videos

462
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram and TikTok, how many of your kids want

463
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: to be performers? None of them? None of them? Man,

464
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean they they see it as a as an

465
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: occupation and what takes me away from them. So, I

466
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: mean they enjoyed music and stuff, but none of them

467
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 1: are just chomping at the bit to perform. Now I'll

468
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: take it back. I have a my daughter, Locksley. She

469
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: she is a performer and she she loves the camera.

470
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: When it comes on, she lights up. Does she want

471
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: to do that for her career, like for her livelihood?

472
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: I mean she's seven, so whatever she says, I'm kind

473
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: of like it'll be different next week. But I mean

474
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: she loves to steal my phone and like do her

475
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: own YouTube channel where she just chats and picks up

476
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 1: things in the room, talks about them and stuff like that.

477
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: So I mean it's looking like she wouldn't naturally fall

478
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: into a job like that. But we'll see you, ma'am.

479
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: When you were seven, eight, nine years old, did you

480
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: want to be in country music? In music? What was

481
00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: the deal? No, man, I'm want to I wanted to

482
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: play pro basketball and I believed wholeheartedly that's that's where

483
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna go. And um, honestly, man, when I

484
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: was that age, I wasn't thinking about the future. Were

485
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: you were you like, Hey, I'm gonna have a radio

486
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: show when you were a kid. I know book, but

487
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, yeah I knew it. I knew

488
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: it from five years old. But five years old you

489
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: were like, I'm gonna do the radio thing. Yeah. I

490
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 1: was always confused at how people didn't know what they

491
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: wanted to be their whole life. I was in second grade.

492
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I know exactly what I'm going to do.

493
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: I know how I'm gonna get there. And I was

494
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: always like, how do you guys not know what you

495
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: want to do? So, yeah, I've never had My grandma

496
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: kept a thing from me when I was five years old.

497
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: So what do you want to be when you grow up?

498
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: And I said I wanted to be on the radio,

499
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: on TV and a stand up comedian and so I

500
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: just always knew. So um anyway, Yeah, I was one

501
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: of those kids you made fun of. I hadn't did.

502
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: I had no clue, man, no clue. How good of

503
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: a basketball player that were you when you were a kid.

504
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean I was good in high school and I'm

505
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: not I'm just being completely honest. I was. I was

506
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: good for mobile and then um Winter Birmingham Southern and

507
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: realized everybody was really really great. So that it ended. Man,

508
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: you played college basketball Birmingham Southern. You tried to, No,

509
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: I tried to. I was kind of a walk a

510
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: walk on is situation, and um, it just wasn't gonna happen.

511
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't good enough class. What class school

512
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: was your high school? I think we were four or

513
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: three or four A when I graduated, So you know,

514
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: being good in three A doesn't really translate to NBA

515
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: later in life. Most points you ever put up in

516
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: a game, Oh, I have no idea. I'm in the twenties.

517
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even think I ever hit the thirties.

518
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: All right, well we actually talking man, not to talk

519
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: about your sports background, but actually to talk about you

520
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: have a new song out today called I Hope You

521
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: missed Me. I'm gonna play a clip of it here

522
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: real quick. Here you got living. That's where you are

523
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: said to go, baby said job and city of that right,

524
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: you want the party? So tell me about this one.

525
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: What did you write this about your kids or what

526
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: you know? Baby? I'm always drinking. Every every kid has

527
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: to have a song. But back back on the subject

528
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: of Locksley. Her initials are L. A. H stands for Locksley,

529
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Azelia Hayes. And man, she's just a free spirit and

530
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: I know she wasn't born to stick around. I mean,

531
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: she's gonna go do great things and who knows, maybe

532
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: that's performing, but she enjoys the limelight. And um, that's

533
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: where the inspiration from this song, where they came from,

534
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: was just that bitter tweet, you know, love and so

535
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: body knowing they're gonna fly away from the nest and

536
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: being sad about it. Is this part of a new

537
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: album you're working on? It could be, we'll see, We'll

538
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: see it's part of a I would say it's an

539
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: EPs situation right now. It's the first of a few

540
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: that will be coming out that we've recently finished. No,

541
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: I've got a song called Briefcase about my dad, and

542
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: then a song called Cry in the Cans. So but yeah,

543
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of this one. Shane mcinally and I

544
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: started this a year ago, so it's nice to see

545
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: this one be released. Do you know what I ask

546
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: an album question? I actually mean now I'm just thinking

547
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: about what I meant by album. I actually mean any

548
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: body of work period, even an if he would count,

549
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: because I'm not a guy who thinks artists who put

550
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: out fifteen song records anymore, because I think a lot

551
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: of them get passed over because people have no that

552
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: they don't, you know, have the patience to sit and

553
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: listen to all the songs. So let me reask. Are

554
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: you going to put out a collection of a few

555
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: songs anytime soon? Yes? Yes, I feel I will put

556
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: out a collection of songs. How many songs will be

557
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: on that collection has not been determined yet, But um man,

558
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: we we have some good music that we wrote in

559
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: the past year, and I'm excited to just release music again. Man,

560
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I see you charged seventy bucks on cameo, But I

561
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: see you play guitar in each of your videos. Now

562
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: do you you take requests? How does the cameo thing

563
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: work for you? I am obsessed with cameo? Do you

564
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: do this? No? Oh my gosh, you you would bank Bobby,

565
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: But uh, man, I I love cameos. I take requests

566
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: and I always sing a song from my people, and

567
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. Man, I mean I truly love

568
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: being able to just make personal messages and sing songs

569
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: to people. Uh through cameo it's amazing. I love it.

570
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: How many requests do you get today? Do you? I average?

571
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean I'd say I do at least three or

572
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: four a day. But I mean, you know what when

573
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: holidays come up is go to work time. Baby, I'm coming.

574
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: You know Valentine's everybody wants. Don't let her um. I mean,

575
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: it's dude, it's it's fun. I mean they'll they'll start

576
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: doing the math and letting everybody know what kind of bank,

577
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: what kind of cash flow. I was, I was doing

578
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: the math right then. To be honest with you, I

579
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: was doing, OK, let me something, man, cameo is a

580
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: good it's a good hourly rate when you when you

581
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: when you narrow it down. But dude, like I said,

582
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's a really really bad opportunity, especially now

583
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: and being cooped up. I mean, I don't get to

584
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: play shows. So you know, it's nice to know that

585
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: people out there want to hear songs and they always

586
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: have requests. I love that this new beard look. You're

587
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: rocking solid? Love? Yeah, I do. I was last night.

588
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: I was looking at your Instagram and I was like,

589
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: what about Walker? Is it that I'm extremely attracted to

590
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: right now? And so I zoomed in and it was

591
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: your beard. Is this a you get a hold with

592
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: this or is this a new It's just something just

593
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: for a phase. Uh. Man, that's a culmination of a

594
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: lot of things. Um My dad's not doing so well

595
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: and I've been going down to Mobile and helping take

596
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: care of him. And you know, it's like one of

597
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: those things. I just woke up and didn't stay for

598
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: a while. And we know, when a couple of people

599
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: give you affirmation about something, you're like, well, I'm hanging

600
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: on to this, you know. And and then I and

601
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: then when I when I would visit my dad, I

602
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: would joke and be like, guys, I want to be

603
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: like you pop And so yeah, man, I'm gonna hang

604
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: on to it for a while. It's not getting annoyed. Now.

605
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: I am learning that beards are not low maintenance by

606
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: any means. I mean, I thought they thought they were,

607
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: but they're more. They're more maintenance than shaving. Um, you

608
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: gotta shin oil all this stuff. So well, let me

609
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: wrap on this. You did a verse on Nikita Carmen's

610
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: song then some which I believe you you produced it

611
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: as well. What's that? Yeah? Right, like, I mean, what

612
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: what does she like as an artist to produce U

613
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: to to hop on a song with? Like, why did

614
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: you do that? Come on, why do that? Bobby? You're

615
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: the You're the reason I know Nikita Carmen. But that's

616
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: not why you listen. You know a lot of folks,

617
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: we know a lot of folks together. But I'm saying, like,

618
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: why her, Dude, I just fell in love with Nikita.

619
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I know joke. You can tell

620
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But I remember telling you backstage

621
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: one day, let's let's go in together and make a

622
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: label and just put her on it, because that's how

623
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: much I believe Nikita Carmen. But I just think she's

624
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: a fascinating individual. I think she's one of the best songwriters.

625
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: I've sat in a room with every single title if

626
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: she sent me. It's one of those situations where I say,

627
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: I try to guess what the song is gonna be about,

628
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: and I'm always wrong, and it's always better than I

629
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: could have imagined writing it, And she sings so pure

630
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: everything on that record. I don't I don't have auto soon.

631
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how to fit someone. So if I'm

632
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: gonna produce someone. They have to be able to sing

633
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: um really well. And she's just so talented, she's so

634
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: pleasant to work with. Sure her work ethic is incredible.

635
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, dude, then some is a jam. But really, dude,

636
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: every song on the Garden, Key Carmen the Garden, y'all

637
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: go check it out, Holy smokes to employ your mind.

638
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Every song I can't think a favorite. There you go,

639
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: Walker Hayes. Follow him at Walker Hayes. Get you a

640
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: cameo nine he's over here rolling in then, yeah, and

641
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: check check out. I hope you miss me, Hey Walker,

642
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Gonna talk to you, bud, and hopefully I'll see you soon.

643
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: All right, buddy, thank you? There he is walking ahead.

644
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: Everybody on right now is kayleie or Kaylee? How are

645
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: you good? How are you pretty good? You know? We

646
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: spent I guess a couple of shows ago, the podcast

647
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: and the radio show talking about this new song that

648
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: you put out today called Amy. We also went down

649
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole trying to figure out who it was.

650
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: All this but and we'll get to that in a second,

651
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: but I gotta say I believe you called it the

652
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: meanest song you've ever written? Is that true? Yes? Okay,

653
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: So I just want to get in your head a

654
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: little bit. Someone's ever done to me? I think? So,

655
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: you know, so start there, what exactly happened to you? Um? So,

656
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: I actually started this song two and a half years

657
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: ago when this happened, and I've had the idea for

658
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: the churse for a really long time, but every time

659
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: I tried to write it, I just couldn't get there

660
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: because I was so upset. But basically, I had this

661
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: friend for a couple of years. We you know, did

662
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: so much stuff together. I helped her out with her career.

663
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: She you know, asked to borrow my guitar and all

664
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: my clothes and whatever, and I thought we were really

665
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: great friends. So when I go through this terribly messy

666
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: cup that I made my album about, I thought that

667
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: i'd you know, be able to have her to lean on.

668
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: And then she just disappeared. And I was so confused,

669
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, maybe he's busy. I don't know.

670
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: And then I started to like put it together and

671
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: he had um they had like started working together separately too,

672
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: and I started to just get a weird vibe and

673
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: I was like, no way would she ever do that.

674
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm being crazy. I started the song idea, and I

675
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: was like, don't write that song, that's not true whatever,

676
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: and then, um, about like last year during quarantine, she

677
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: put out an album and I listened to it and

678
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: one of the songs had his name in it, and

679
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: then I knew everything I thought was right, and then

680
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I found out like what happened and whatnot, and so

681
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I finished the song because I finally had a full story. So, okay,

682
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: you finished the song. It's got I looked at it

683
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: as over two million views, so congratulations, awesome. Um have

684
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: you have you heard from her since the song started

685
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: to blow up? By relay? I have not known, and

686
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: you haven't. It's complicated and I haven't reached out. I

687
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: just you know, I mean, it's definitely I never expected

688
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: it to blow up. And I've been putting people's names

689
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: in songs on every product I've ever released, and this

690
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: is the first time anybody has ever tried to figure

691
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: anything out. So I did not see this comment. I

692
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: knew what I was putting out there. I just did

693
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: not think that people would take such a big interest

694
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: in that. I started, you know, going down the rabbit hole,

695
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: and I figured it out and we talked about it.

696
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: I think I figured it out whatever, But then I

697
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: started to listen to her music and then I'm listening

698
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: to your music and I'm like, Hey, if Kaylee and

699
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: this Amy girl have planned this, this is great. This

700
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: is like Puffy, This is like Coach versus West Coast

701
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: hip hop back in the nineties when they were faking

702
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: some of that stuff to to create press. Are you

703
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: telling me that's not what this is. Um, I'm absolutely

704
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: telling you it's not what it is. And the reason

705
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: why I think that this is different than just you know,

706
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: because there were there are a lot of comments, and

707
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: people were commenting on the video and there were crazy

708
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: stories from is one girl her mom's name was Amy

709
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: and her mom was the person who stole her boyfriend

710
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: and that was crazy. And then there were people making

711
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: the argument that's like I'm married to my best friend's

712
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: X and he's been happy and whatever, and it's totally different.

713
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: And I think that, Like, you know, I have plenty

714
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: of people I've dated. There's my friend's name to me

715
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, I think I like this person,

716
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: what do you think And I'd be like, oh, yeah,

717
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: they're a good guys. Didn't work out. However, in this situation,

718
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: it ended in a really bad way. Um that I've

719
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: documented many ways over open Book and it's been pretty

720
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: clear what happened in my song forever um. And I

721
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: think that anytime, and especially in a time of need,

722
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: that a friend kicks a toxic guy over there one

723
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: of their best girlfriends, that's more anti feminist than calling

724
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: it out. What about him? Have you heard from him

725
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: since this has happened. He's probably so used to this

726
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, he had to left her

727
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: open Book and um, he's also got way too much

728
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: pride to ever talk to me about. How many followers

729
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: do you get whenever like instant single on Instagram, who

730
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: I post because they're funny, post a screenshot of of

731
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: like you as a tweet, or when these people start

732
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: posting the TikTok videos that you know they're taking your stuff.

733
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: Do you see a big influx and followers that happens.

734
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: I do, yeah, And it's always really funny because like

735
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: I'll get calm and said will be like, well, I

736
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: just thought you were like kind of hot and funny,

737
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: but like, I guess your music is pretty good too,

738
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: and I'm like think, like yeah, right, like whatever it

739
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: takes to get them to your music, right. Well, yeah,

740
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's not. This is just who I am.

741
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing too. And I think that this song

742
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: comes off a little bit weird at points because I'm

743
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: choosing humor as a way to cope with it. But

744
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been really upfront about all of the

745
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: bad things that have happened to me in my life,

746
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: and this is very small compared to some of them.

747
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: But I choose to just be like really straightforward about

748
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: it and be able to laugh at it. But I

749
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: think if this song was like a slow ballad, it

750
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't be hitting people um as like uncomfortable at points.

751
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: But this is just how I cope with it. This

752
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: is me being sad, Me being sad as me sitting down,

753
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm writing a song and just getting my point across

754
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: and saying exactly what happened and then I can move

755
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: past it. On Twitter, my last question about this specifically,

756
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: you're you still have the same boyfriend, right, that's he's

757
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: motion on Instagram with the same guy. So what does

758
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: he think about you writing a song about a past

759
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: relationship ish thing? Well, he's a songwriter too, so when I, Um,

760
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: I actually asked his opinion. I was like, hey, what

761
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: songs using I should post on TikTok and he was like,

762
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: you should post Argentine and you should post any and

763
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and then I did it and

764
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: then blew up. So thankfully he gives me good advice. Um,

765
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean he's written songs about people he's

766
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: been with, and we also wrote that song eighteen on

767
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: my album Together, which is actually about the same people,

768
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: so this is not foreigned as and I think that

769
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: if we can, you know, I think if we can

770
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: write about these things together and separately and not take

771
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: it as anything other than just processing your motions, I

772
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: think that's that means that we're pretty built to last.

773
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: What about this Framing Brittany documentary giving your thoughts on it?

774
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Well yeah, I did the whole podcast

775
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: episode on last week. But it just shocked me because

776
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: I think so many of us were, you know, casually

777
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: complicit in her treatment, because I mean I was too

778
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: young to really know what was going on. But it

779
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: was just this joke. You'd make a joke about all

780
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go crazy and shave my head like Britney Spears. Meanwhile,

781
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: this girl who's done nothing but be kind and entertain

782
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: us has fallen apart and nobody's coming to save her.

783
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: And I'm just so glad that this is something we're

784
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: talking about. I think there's still a lot of issues

785
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: that are unresolved, but on the podcast episode, I really

786
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: dove into how we can all be Britney Spears. You

787
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: can be Britney Spears in middle school on a Facebook site,

788
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: or you can be like you can go through that

789
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: in a small town like it's this one. It's a

790
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: feeling where you know somebody's going through a hard time

791
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: and said you chose to make fun of them and

792
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: pile it on as opposed to help them. So I

793
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: love Brittany. I plan to watch it this weekend. I

794
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, but if you were to say

795
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: that you liked someone more after watching that documentary, who

796
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: would you say that would be Brittney Spears, And I

797
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: mean her assistant, who's I think like she's like her child,

798
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: her mom's childhood friend or something. But she is the

799
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: one person there where you know, without a doubt that

800
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: she loves Britney Spears, and it really shows okay, and

801
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: who did you come away going? Oh? I feel worse

802
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: about them than I did going into it. Oh, her dad,

803
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm not a Jamie Spears fan. I'm a

804
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: Jamie Lynd Spears fan, but I'm not a Jamie you guys.

805
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Check out Kaylee's podcast called Too Much to Say with

806
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: Kayleie Shore. She goes into it in depth. She got

807
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: a new song out to called Amy that I hope

808
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: you check out. Are you on cameo yet? Kaylee? I

809
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: am on cameo yet? How much? How much are yours? Um?

810
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: They're twenty dollars? But I donate a portion to the

811
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: Trevor Project. Well there you go. Go and maybe she'll

812
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: write a mean song about you. That's what everybody should do.

813
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: They should come to you and go, hey, I will

814
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: do I will write a chorus. I will rewrite the

815
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: chorus of Amy with any name you want in it

816
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 1: and security. Follow Kaylee at at Kaylee Shore on TikTok

817
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: and Instagram. K A l I E S h O

818
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 1: r R. Check out Too Much to Say with Kaylee Shore.

819
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: Check out Amy. She's got a lot going on. You're

820
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna be hearing from her forever and ever. And ever.

821
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Kaylee Shore, Hey Kaylee, thank you for talking with me

822
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: and hopefully talk to you soon. Thanks. Hey John, how's

823
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: it going? Hey Eddie? What town are you in? I'm

824
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee. What do you know about Nashville? What

825
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: do I know about Nashville? Let's see, I was in

826
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: a bar one time. They're upstairs and I don't remember leaving.

827
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, we're where are you too? Are you in

828
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: l A? I'm I'm in l A where I was born. Yeah,

829
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: I can. I came out of the womb of the

830
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: l A woman. You know. That's funny. I saw that

831
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: you were born and raised in l A, and I

832
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: thought automatically, I'm like, I wonder when you're born and

833
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: raised in l A, are you always wanting to be famous? Like?

834
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: Is it just a goal from the very beginning? Like

835
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something in Hollywood, I'm gonna be in

836
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: a band, I'm gonna be famous. Like what what was

837
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: that road for you? Like? Yeah, good question. I I

838
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: grew up in the suburbs and it could have been

839
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, Kansas or somewhere. It only when I in

840
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: my late teens, ventured into Hollywood and realize, Oh, this

841
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: is the entertainment mecca of the world. So as a kid,

842
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: I was just out there in the suburbs. So let's

843
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: talk about your book a little bit. John. It's called

844
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: The Seekers. The book um it's uh, let me see

845
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: get the title is The Seekers Meetings with remarkable musicians

846
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: and other artists. I'm curious about the other artists and

847
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: why they're just not remarkable musicians. Well, uh, I threw

848
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: in a couple of poets, and acting teacher and the

849
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: Dolly Llama mystic guy, so you know, they aren't quote musicians.

850
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: So I had to kind of paraphrase the subtitles so

851
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: they were included. So tell tell me a little bit

852
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: about this book. What what was the whole point of

853
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: writing this? And um, what's what's it about? In a nutshell? Um,

854
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to give a tip of the hat two

855
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: artists who fed me and U. I uh, it's a

856
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: very eclectic group, you know, Willie Nelson and Lou Reed

857
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: and Patty Smith and jazz musicians. But maybe that's uh, well,

858
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: that is what the doors are about. Were a melting

859
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: pot and that's what America is about. Two, So we

860
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: gotta figure out how to become the United States. Yeah,

861
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I saw Bob Marley on the

862
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: list too, and I'm a big Bob Marley fan. Curious

863
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: to know that story a little bit about like how

864
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: you met him and what you got from him. Well,

865
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 1: I only met him for a few minutes backstage. But um,

866
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: Robbie Krieger, the doors guitarist, and I were in Jamaica

867
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: before reggae came to the States, and uh, we knew

868
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: there was some magic coming. And we went back to

869
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: l A and and I saw Linda Ronstad's bass player,

870
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Edwards, and I said, listen to this stuff, and

871
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: he said, what is it? Reggie said, no, no, no reggae. Reggae. Well,

872
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: a year later Linda covered many rivers to cross and

873
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: was number one by a Jimmy Cliff. So they're welcome.

874
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: You know. Marley was such a visionary. He wrote about

875
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: no woman, no cry women, and and issues and racism

876
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: and and everything. It just really creative. Great artist. Well,

877
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, I mean, add especially of

878
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: the realm of your book. Who is one of the

879
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: coolest artists musician you've ever met? And who were you?

880
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: Who'd you really geek? Over Oh, well, everybody in the

881
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: book pretty much. I mean, I geeked over Elvin Jones,

882
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: John Coltrane's drummer, and uh, by the end of his life,

883
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: I'd help him bring his drums to the car, you know.

884
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: So he was a mentor for me. Yeah, I know.

885
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: I I see that too. I mean, and so I

886
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: see drums in your back in the background of your

887
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: picture there. Do you still play a lot? Yeah, a

888
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: little bit here and there, not as much, but I'm

889
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking for music in between sentences, which

890
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: is cool. Yeah, I was gonna ask you that too.

891
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: What is John Densmore listened to these days? Are you?

892
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: And are you on a Grande fan? You like Bieber? Like?

893
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: What are you listening to? I like it all classical

894
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: world music. I find it interesting that if I'm listening

895
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: to some music that is in another language Brazilian, Spanish, whatever,

896
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: and I can't literally get the linear dialogue, I still

897
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: feel the culture. I get a feeling of that culture,

898
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: and that's healing. That's what music does, goes right to

899
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: the heart, not to the brain. Yeah. I read you

900
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: were a dancer too, Is that right? You dance? You

901
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: dance some a little bit after that, I was I

902
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: was drumming for a dance company, you know, primarily. I

903
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: mean they got me up there running around a little bit,

904
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: but that was not really my thing. I mean, you

905
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: think it goes hand in hand. You're keeping the rhythm

906
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: of the band, you might as well move with your feet, right. Hey,

907
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: I always wanted to jam with a tap dancer. Maybe

908
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: I'll do that in the future. So I want to

909
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the doors, John, Uh, you know,

910
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: I was raised on the doors. You know. Listen, my

911
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: older brother listened to you guys NonStop and listen to

912
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 1: all the records, and and we would always talk about

913
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: you guys and just thinking about what life was like

914
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: in the late sixties for you guys when you watched

915
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: the movie and you listen to music. In my mind,

916
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: what I created in my dumb mind was like, God,

917
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: these guys must live in a haze seven, you know,

918
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: like and not really know what was happening. Is that

919
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: factual or was it controlled? Were you able to just

920
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: live your life normally or were you just completely high

921
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: all the time? No? No, Like Oliver Stone's movie was great,

922
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: Val Kilmer was incredible, but it's cramming six years into

923
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: two hours. You know, there was downtime when Jim was

924
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: quiet writing poetry. Oliver said, well, that's not filmic, and

925
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: he's right. But you know, it wasn't all crazy all

926
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: the time. And when it was too crazy, we'd send

927
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Jim home and the next morning we'd get the vocal

928
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: take we wanted when he was straight. So there you go.

929
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: When when you worked, when they worked on the movie,

930
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: how much of a hand did you did you guys

931
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: add to that storyline wise? And and were you happy

932
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: with the way it came out? Yeah? I thought Val

933
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: Kilmer should have been nominated for an Oscar. Robbie and

934
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: I were helping out. Ray had a conflict with Oliver.

935
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: Ray wanted to direct the movie because he went to

936
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: film school. But um, you know, it was a great

937
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: kind of impressionistic painting of our career. And there's also

938
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: a documentary called When You're Strange that Johnny Depp narrated

939
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: that has a little more of the sixties period in there,

940
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: and the two films kind of I think represent our

941
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: whole career. When when Jim passed, did you what was

942
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: going through your mind? Did you think your musical career

943
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: was over? Did you know you're gonna keep going on

944
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: and do and something else. Well, it was hard to believe.

945
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be an Irish drunk who

946
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: lived at eighty and uh, you know, we didn't know

947
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: we had a disease, and we didn't have substance abuse clinics,

948
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: so we didn't know what was going on. But we

949
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: were playing. So the three of us kept playing right

950
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: in our rehearsal room, and we made a couple of

951
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 1: albums after he died without him, and we went, what

952
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Our focal point is gone? So

953
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. One of my coolest videos

954
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: that I watched back I guess in the early nineties

955
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: was when you guys got inducted into the Rock and

956
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame and Eddie Vetter came out and

957
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: sang with you guys. To me, that was cool because

958
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Pearl Jam fan. I love Eddie Vetter

959
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: and and at that point in my life, I'm thinking

960
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: Eddie makes a really good gym, you know. And I'm

961
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: sure you guys had a lot of people step into

962
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: that spot. Who was your favorite to step into that

963
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: spot and and fill in for Jim when you guys

964
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: play Eddie Vetter, I mean, I love the guy. You know,

965
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: Scott Whyland was great, but Eddie's I don't know his pipes.

966
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: He's got a baritone like Jim and and I just

967
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: love the guy. And I've sat in with him on

968
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: his solo shows a little, a little here and there,

969
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: playing hand drums, and he's just one of the most

970
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: soulful guys walk on the planet. Yeah, I agree. I'm

971
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: a huge fan. I love that video. I still own it.

972
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I have it on a VHS tape somewhere, maybe in

973
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: my attic, but very cool to watch. Um. Also to John, uh,

974
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: you you have a you have a kid? Do you

975
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: have a a child? I have grandkids. Okay, So what

976
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: was that like for for for your child? Like, does

977
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: he know how cool you are? Or does she? I

978
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a boy or girl. You have

979
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: a son or a daughter? I have both? Yeah? Okay,

980
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: So so do they know how cool you are? Do

981
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: they care how cool you are? Do they even know

982
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: how cool it was to be in the doors? Well,

983
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: they know that their dad has to go to the

984
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: bathroom and get divorced like everyone else, so you know,

985
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: but they know that I'm admired by other musicians that

986
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: they respect, so then they think, well, he's all right.

987
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: I guess yeah. Was was that a thing? Did anyone

988
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: want to become? I'll let you get that. Wait a minute,

989
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: my phone's ringing. Can we cut this? Sure? Of course? Okay, sorry,

990
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: one more ring, I got the sound off, all right,

991
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: All right? Now, lastly, you know so so so Bobby

992
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: likes to ask this question to people he he um interviews.

993
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: And I think it's a great question. But if you

994
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: could pick one Door song to never ever play again,

995
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: what would it be to never ever play again? Ever? Well,

996
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: I love uh Texas Radio and the big beat Da

997
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: da Da da da. I played the melody instead of

998
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: just the backbeat. And uh, that's one song we never

999
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: played live, and I would die to play it. So

1000
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: there's the reverse answer. Here's the opposite of what I asked.

1001
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: That that was cool, you know, listening to the Doors,

1002
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: you definitely had I don't. I feel like drummers sometimes

1003
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: they just have the easiest gig because they can sit

1004
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: back keep the rhythm. But you didn't. You were Your

1005
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: drumming was a big part of the music. Uh. And

1006
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: and that's big jazz influence, right, Is that correct? Absolutely correct? Yeah, yeah.

1007
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: The first job is to keep the beat. But if

1008
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: you can have a conversation with the singer or the

1009
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: guitar player and spur them on, then all the better.

1010
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: So what one last question? I'm sorry I said the

1011
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: last one was was the one more? John? We're in

1012
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 1: country music. Our radio show is a country music show,

1013
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: a morning show. And and what I hear a lot

1014
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 1: from from fans and all the older fans of country

1015
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: music is listening to new country music and saying that

1016
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: ain't country. Yeah, it's a very it's a very common thing.

1017
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: And I remember to listen to the Doors and and

1018
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: my parents or my parents friends saying that ain't music.

1019
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: Did you was that? Was that a thing? You know,

1020
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: when when the Doors were trying to make it? Was

1021
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: that part of the struggle of just like no, no, no,

1022
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: this is music. It's just not what you're used to hearing. Yeah,

1023
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: there's always a resistance to something new, but you know,

1024
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I I have Willie's Roadhouse Blues channel on

1025
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: my radio and I'll hear Old Merle and Patsy Klein

1026
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: and it's not my genre, but I get it. And

1027
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: you know, you'll hear here Willie now playing a guitar

1028
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: our solo and their space in that solo. And that's

1029
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: what's so melodic and beautiful and catchy I write about.

1030
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: This technique is not everything breathing and silence in between

1031
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: the notes. So there's two cents. Yeah, I like that.

1032
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: I like that. Well, John, thank you so much for

1033
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: your time. I pretty good luck with the book. You

1034
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: also have another book as well, and that's kind of

1035
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: more of a biographical doors book. Is that right? Well,

1036
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: I have three self centered memoirs write us on the

1037
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: storm first one, the Doors Unhinged, and now the Seekers

1038
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: cool Man. Well, good luck. I look forward to reading

1039
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: all those, and thank you so much for your time.

1040
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. All right, we'll see you, Johnny.

1041
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: Catch you