1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl drama, girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic girl cheering father right drama queens up girl fashion. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: But you'll tell girls you can see with this girl 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: drama Queens drama, Queen's Drawn mc Queen's drama John McQueen's 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: drama Queen, I don't mean, I really love it. So fun, 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: isn't it. We're back, baby, we did it. Oh we 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: survived all these years. We have reunited and it feels 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: good every it really does. You guys are more beautiful 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: than you've ever been, and I'm so excited we're back 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: in the same room together. This is amazing. It feels 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: like a homecoming. It really really does. Like as long 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: as we played high schoolers, we might as well have 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: our own like letter jackets in high school reunion and 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: we just o, my god, we deserve pink lady jackets. Yes, 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: what eyes would be blue? Right? And the draw? How 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: many times over the years have people come up to 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: you two and said, like, when is there going to 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: be a reunion? So much so many I've lost count Honestly, 21 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: it's probably the number one question, and it's fans of 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: the show. It's even like the sweetest reporters we've ever 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: spoken to, people you wouldn't expect to be saying, please 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: give us a reunion. Do that a lot. I really 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: like it when, like people who are from countries, we 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: had no idea the show aired in come up, we 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: learned English watching your show. I know, that's nuts. It's 28 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: been a comfort food for so many people. And it's 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: because of those fans, because of all you guys listening, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: that we're even able to do this right now. We're 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: so grateful and super super excited to be back together. 32 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: It's true though, you know, for us, and we've all 33 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: talked about this in private. You know, there were years 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: where when we finished the thing we did for a decade, 35 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: we were like, no, we're done with that. And I 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: think at the passion that the fans have carried out 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: has actually allowed us to fall back in love with 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the show. You guys have given us nostalgia. You have 39 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: enabled us to maintain our friendships, and honestly, our friendships 40 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: are deeper and more ferocious and delicious than they've ever 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: been because, like we do get to travel to all 42 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: these cool places together and meet, you know, the people 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: who love our show. And you've reminded us that we 44 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: love our show, and so now we're bringing you a 45 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: new show. Did you guys ever imagine when we were 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: like lockdown in Wilmington, North Carolina in the early two 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: thousand's that there would be a global fan base? Never? Never? 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean you always hope that, but you never actually, 49 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just sit around dreaming that there's 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: going to be some global like rush that we're going 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: to become a major piece of pop culture and then 52 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: suddenly it happens. And I mean, but you know, you're 53 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: you're so what was two thousand and three? Was it 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: when we started? Didn't even know how the internetworked back then? 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: Still dial up? I mean, were you using like a 56 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I am, yeah, you at home phones back then, I'm 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna call Joy on her landline. That's right, landlines. When 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: it was rude to call people on their cell phones 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: because you don't want to bother someone when they're out. 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: I'll just call you when you're home. Now it's like 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: the other way around. What do you guys remember the 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: most about Wilmington's like let's talk about when we first 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys remember when you first showed up, 64 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: like landed in it that tiny little airport. Yes, well, 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: and always a connecting flight because there's no direct fight 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: into Wilmington's, so you'd fly to Charlotte and then you'd 67 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: go get on the little plane. And I remember landing 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: in Wilmington's and getting off the plane and I was like, 69 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: oh there, Oh, there are six gates and there's rocking 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: chairs out front. I was like, can I sit in 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: one of those? I love it here. Have you guys 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: ever been there before? Now? I was like a Virginia kid, 73 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: so we would vacation down there growing up. And there 74 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: was a there was a place was like Bubba's Car Lot, 75 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, and it was all antique picture cars that 76 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: had been used in movies that had shot there, starting 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: with fire Starter, you know. So it had been a 78 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: film town since the eighties because Frank Capra built screen 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: gems there. Yeah, and seventies or eighties, right, Blue Velvet 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: shot there, so like David Lynch came in and did 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: super creepy stuff and byre records shot there, which wasn't 82 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: David the best? I mean there were so many cool 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: things that had shot there before we got there, and 84 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: so for me it was like, oh, I get to 85 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: go live in a vacation town where Bubba's Carlott is 86 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, like cool, and Dawson's had just like reigned 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: supreme in Wilmington's. Were you guys allowed to watch Dawson's 88 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: because I wasn't. You weren't. It was a bad kid show. 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to watch like Beverly Hills, I know, 90 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: but where Melrose placed God forbidden. Still to this day, 91 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, what I watched? I watched nine O two 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and oh to a point, and then there was an 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: episode where uh Luke Perry and Jenny Garth had like 94 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: an affair behind Shannon Doherty's back or something, and I 95 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: remember seeing commercials about that. I didn't even see the episode. 96 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: I was actually like, a way, this is so embarrassing. 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: I was way at space camp and had awhile it's fine. 98 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: But my parents watched the episode, and when I got home, 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: they were like, we can't believe we've been letting you 100 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: watch the show with your babysitter. She's a bad influence. 101 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: And I got a new babysitter and I was banned 102 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: from watching forever. So I think because that show was 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: so bad is maybe why I was allowed to watch Dawson's. 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: Because it was like small town kids figuring it out, dude. 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: I remember having girlfriends over to watch like the pilot 106 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: of Dawson's, and when Pacy had sex with the teacher, 107 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: my mother came. Yeah, that too. It was like the 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: first storyline. I came in on Dawson's way, though I 109 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: didn't start watching until the season like three or four, 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: or when they had sort of mellowed out. It wasn't 111 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: so much of the trying to shock everybody, because Kevin 112 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: Williamson was definitely in a shock zone at that point 113 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: when he started. But maybe I must have done the same. 114 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: I must have started watching it later. And I remember 115 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: being in college and ahead of a premiere, a season premiere, 116 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: going back and watching from the beginning with friends, and 117 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: I think that might have been the first time I 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: saw that my world on fire, and all of a 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: sudden everyone at school knew I wasn't on to watch it. Yeah, 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: but you know, you know, we were all actors at 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: that point or Joy, you started really young. I told 122 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: were you when you started works. Well, yeah, I mean 123 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: I I started professionally when I was twelve, so um, 124 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: but I was doing some kind of I was doing 125 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: a lot of theater. We were all we were all 126 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: drama queens in our own of our high schools and fuels. 127 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: You know, we all did drama club and school plays 128 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. So that was and you, 129 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: for sure, we're right, I know you did a ton 130 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: of musical theater. I was initiated into the high school 131 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: theater program when I was in third grade. I was 132 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: eight with a letter jacket because I played greteld on track. 133 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: And then I founded up in fifth grade with a 134 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Marellis in the Sound of Music, And so I thought 135 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: I was so cool an adult because I was like 136 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Ammarellis in the Sound of Music. She's like the little 137 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: girl that plays the piano while Marion's singing good Night, 138 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: my someone, and she's like the music man. What did 139 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I say, sound of music? Yes, I was crittle and 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: sound of music and Marillis and the music man a 141 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: lot of music happening in their home today, years old. 142 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Always I learned something about musicals from the two of you. 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Every time I worked together. I'm like I didn't. I 144 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 1: don't know NERD club. I love it well. I didn't 145 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: start doing theater until I had an arts requirement in 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: the eighth grade. I tried to get out of it, 147 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: and I tried to schedule my semester of theater for 148 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: the same semester I was playing volleyball, and my school 149 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: was like, you're an idiot. You can't do that. So 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: I had to miss volleyball for the year, which in 151 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: hindsight is a blessing because I never grew so on, 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: not tall enough to be a volleyball player. I can 153 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: see you'd be aggressive. You're competitive for sure, but I'm like, 154 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: I can get in there, I can help. But I 155 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: suddenly I was like, yeah, just the short kid, being 156 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: like give me the long ones. But suddenly I was like, 157 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I've been on this like med school track. 158 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: I thought the daughter like, you will be a doctor 159 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: or a lawyer, or a lawyer or a doctor. And 160 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: then I was like, wait, but plays or books come 161 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: to life. But I missed the whole musical theater. There's 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: still time, baby, there's still time. Will be a musical podcast. 163 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't wait. You will write as 164 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: a musical and it will be fabulous. Okay, all right, 165 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'll start. Now. What show was on the 166 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: air when we were teenagers that you were like, Oh, 167 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. Felicity. Yeah, Felicity. I 168 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: got to be in a couple episodes of Felicity. Everyone. Yeah, 169 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: I was her. Teacher was like, um, seemed like he 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: was hitting on her, and it was there was some 171 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: episode of teacher seemed like he was hitting on her 172 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: and um, and then it turned out that he was 173 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: actually having an affair with me. And you were also 174 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 1: a student and I was also a student. But I 175 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: also looked just like her, Like my hair was really 176 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: big and curly, and so I think maybe that there 177 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: was a tie in there where it was like he was. 178 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: It was super weird. I don't know, but I can 179 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: say everybody was really nice on that show, and Carrie 180 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: I've always admired her as an actress too, but she 181 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: was just so sweet and professional and like really warm, 182 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean people, and we know, certainly 183 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: being on a show where people came in and out 184 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: all the time, it's really hard to keep track of 185 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: all the guest stars and all the storylines and everything 186 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and um, but Carrie was like I always felt comfortable 187 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: around her, and she felt really warm and welcome and 188 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: come on in and their makeup trailer. There was never 189 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: like snobby nous or anything, so um, you know whatever. 190 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: I had a great memory from being on that show. 191 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: But what else was on the w B at the time. 192 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: The w B was huge at the time, huge, It 193 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: owned our total age bracket because it was Charmed was 194 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: a big deal. It was Charmed Felicity Dawson's we grew 195 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 1: up on Buffy, wasn't we Rock Mars was up n 196 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: until happened in our merger. Well see, yep, that was 197 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: people was nuts because they were our competitor and we 198 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: had this like rivalry. Don't you remember the end of 199 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: Ronica Mars and their credits they had like an icon 200 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: of a tree burning and we took it so personally. 201 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: And then we all merged and we were on the 202 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: same network and it was like, oh hey, it felt 203 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: like lest side story. It was just like cool, I 204 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: guess we're friends now. Yeah. The w B. Like I'd 205 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: interviewed a bunch of people from other shows on the 206 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: w B when I was working at MTV, but I 207 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: was always on the other side of it, like I 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: definitely wasn't the talent. I was just the interviewer, And 209 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: so it was all the small deal kids and then 210 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: the one with Gregory Smith everyone that was a big 211 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: one that Oh my god, they just they printing hits. 212 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: Yeah they were, Yeah they were. And so if you 213 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: were cast on a w V show, it was like, 214 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: it's just kind of funny that every year we always 215 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: felt like we're on the bubble. They may not pick 216 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: you up. You know, we're not really sure if anybody's 217 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: into let them know that, So explain to them what 218 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: the bubble is. Yeah, okay, So, uh, the bubble is 219 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: like you you could burst any moment, you could be 220 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: you could be canceled at any moment. So better, you know, 221 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: stay in line. Better make sure that we, you know, 222 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: just keep our numbers up and Ginger Piece can do 223 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: whatever we have to do to sell Cell Cell the 224 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: show and make sure that we stay on the air. Um. 225 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: But it's ironic because you know, clearly at that time 226 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: w B wasn't picking up shows that we're not going 227 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: to be big hits, let alone keeping them on them 228 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: on the air for longer than longer than two seasons. 229 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: I think is a fair space of time to say 230 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: like by then they know and yet even into season five, six, seven, eight, 231 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: but we might get we might get canceled. Every season 232 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: I was there, it was like, you're lucky to have 233 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: a job, you know, And isn't it funny that now 234 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: is adults, like all of us producing and directing, we're like, oh, 235 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: that's that's a scare tactic to keep your employees terrified. 236 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: And they never asked for anything. God and thanks guys. 237 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: But as kids we were like, oh my god, we 238 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: might lose our job. Up, this might be the year 239 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: we all find out we're failures. You know what has happened. 240 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: We've reached that point in adulthood where we're like, fine, 241 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: I lose my job. It's fine, you know, like the 242 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: apathy has said in But you know, that was the 243 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: biggest break ever. And trying to prove ourselves was funny 244 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: and also like a good way to have those connections 245 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: that nig lifelong friends. It's like, remember when we all 246 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: went through that together. It's like having matching tattoos on 247 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: the inside. Yes, I almost got a tattoo at your wedding, 248 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: so I did too, almost, Yeah, I was like, Okay, 249 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: I still got the be Listen. We had like ninety 250 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: three people get tattooed at my wedding. We'll do that 251 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: on a different episode of the show. We'll just like, yes, tattoos. 252 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: So what were you guys doing, like right before you 253 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: were cast on the show. What was like the six 254 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: months leading up to finding out you were on the show? Um? Well, 255 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: I was. I had just moved from New York. I was. 256 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: I had been on a soap opera for a couple 257 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: of years and and then I just lived in New 258 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: York City doing nothing for one year. I spent all 259 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: my money I made on the soap, which you know, 260 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: I was nineteen or twenty, and like making a stupid 261 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: amount of money, which is just so unusual, and I 262 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: just it was kind of great to just blow all 263 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: of it on like amazing restaurants. And I saw a 264 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: Broadway show every other night. And I remember you telling me, 265 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: You're like, do you like champagne? And I was like, 266 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. You were like, I'm good at champagne. 267 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I was like, I moved out when I 268 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: was seventeen. I had my own apartment, you know, and 269 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, like I had. I had been 270 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: kind of living on my own, taking care of myself 271 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: for a long time. So when I got to l A, 272 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: I went to l A because I was in New York. 273 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: I spent all my money. I went to the at 274 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: M one day and I had like two thousand dollars left, 275 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I was like, oh, well, I guess 276 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I gotta go to l A and trying to get 277 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: some guest spots, so I just packed up my bags. 278 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: Did you know where to go now? I mean I 279 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: had been in l A so much because I had 280 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: pilot season since I was twelve fourteen years old. I 281 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: was always flying out there for um, for testing and 282 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: pilots and stuff. So anyway, once once I got here, 283 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: um it was it was stupidly charmed, like it just 284 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: kept working. I just got here and I got on 285 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: guest spots and on all these great different shows and started, 286 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, gun apartment and um, I got the the 287 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: pilot for Ravens was sent to me and I flipped 288 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: through it and I just was like, I don't know, 289 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to do a team drama. 290 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: And there were a lot of other auditions at the time, 291 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: so I just kind of passed by it. And then 292 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: six or seven months later, um, my manager called me 293 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: and she said, UM, watched this pilot. This is a show. 294 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: The show I wanted you out a you to audition 295 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: for a few months ago. But anyway, they're they're recasting 296 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: one of the parts and if you, if you like it, 297 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: take a look. So I took the pilot, the tape, 298 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: the videotape it was. I still had that chunky tape. 299 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: I took it over to a friend's house and we 300 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: sat down and watched it. And I loved the pilot. 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean I really really did. Yeah, loved it. I thought, man, 302 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: I would love to be a part of this show. 303 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: I love the way they're weaving in music and the 304 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the tone of the characters feels so raw and connected, 305 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: and like this feels like something I could really sink 306 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: my teeth into. So um, yeah, I went in and 307 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: and did my audition. We should all talk about our 308 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: audition experiences at some point too. But so what were 309 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: you doing before? Oh? Man, I mean I was a 310 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: junior in college. I Um, I had done this movie. 311 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: I had auditioned for the female lead in Van Wilder 312 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: opposite Ryan Reynolds and they were like, you looked twelve. 313 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: You did it. You looked really pretty well. They kept 314 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: bringing me back in and I like, I eventually tested 315 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: for the movie and they were like, we just think 316 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: you looked too young to work. Own man. Yeah, and 317 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: they were like, but there's a part. There's one scene 318 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: where there's this freshman in college girl and we'd like 319 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: to offer it to you. And I was like, wow, 320 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: this is cool. And I remember getting to work and 321 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: they were like okay, so um, you're going to take 322 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: that mark. And I was like, what is the mark? 323 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: And Ryan Reynolds was the sweetest person and he was like, 324 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: come over here, and he gave me like a lesson 325 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: and was just like, this is a mark of what 326 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: it means when they say toe up and did da 327 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: da da and look for this and make sure no 328 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: one's ever in your light. And I was like okay. 329 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: And then five minutes later they were like, so you're 330 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: gonna like, you know, we're gonna smash cut to her 331 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: walking in the room and you're in his lap and 332 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: you guys are making out, and I was like, wow, 333 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: this is tremendously awkward. Thank god, he's such a nice person, 334 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: and he's like remained the nicest human. Um. But I 335 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: did that, and then I did this three episode guest 336 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: dark on Niptuck the first season That's right, yea yeah, 337 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: which was so fun and so like salacious and out 338 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: of control. And then I was like, it was summer 339 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: and I was working my retail job. I was working 340 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: at the Centry City mall. I was working at Bloomy Dale's. 341 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: I did and I were like, Rachel great, literally, yeah, 342 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: I was. I was following in Jennifer Anderson's television footsteps 343 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: and the anxiety that I had every day because like 344 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: all the other kids who worked there were bad and 345 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: they would just take like extended smoke breaks. And I 346 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: was having a panic attack every day because I was 347 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: trying to recolor, coordinate and arrange everything on the shelves 348 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: by size, and nobody else cared. And I was like, 349 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: I can't take it anymore. Um. And then this came 350 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: up and it and it was actually really interesting because 351 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: similarly to you, I had read The Ravens scrimped And 352 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: by the way, for anyone listening who doesn't know one, 353 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: drio was originally titled Ravens. You know the name of 354 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: the basketball team, and um, I had read the script 355 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: and I had wound up doing a different pilot for 356 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: the same production company. Told yeah, and it was very 357 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: in the line of amazing w B shows, UM, sort 358 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: of like a Seventh Heaven, like really warm families, and 359 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: they printed it, I tell you, UM. But it was 360 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: a pilot for ABC, and ABC was like, we don't 361 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: really need a family show, like this is cute, but 362 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: we're not picking this up. And fun fact, Jeff free 363 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: Nordling from Big Little Lives played my Dad and my god, 364 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: he's just been amazing forever. UM, but our show didn't 365 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 1: get picked up, and then they were recasting you were 366 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: part they were recasting Haley. And I got a call 367 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: from one of the producers who was on my pilot 368 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: and on One Tree Hill, who was like, you know, 369 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,479 Speaker 1: we have these four lead characters and all of them 370 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: when you meet them are really struggling with something and 371 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: we need rama. And they were like, we need a 372 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: character to be like ridiculous and sassy. We need like 373 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: comic relief. I was like broken, it was real sassy 374 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, that feels fun. And I remember 375 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: going in an auditioning UM, and then I had like 376 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: I think two more a callback. And then there was 377 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: the test where they were remember we were there together. 378 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: They were testing, um they were doing the well her 379 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: name wasn't even get but they were doing the characters 380 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: in the and the Haley's and it was this weird room. 381 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: I remember that because it was like a circle couch 382 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: or something. There was some kind of like two half 383 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: new moon couches. I just remember walking in. You were 384 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: in your headphones, and I remember getting, damn it, I 385 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: hope I'm that girl and I are out for the 386 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: same people. Because I was having a panic. I was like, 387 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm so nervous. I don't think i can talk to 388 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: anyone because if I started talking to people, I might 389 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: throw up and that will definitely me and I don't 390 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: get the job. It was so nervoud No. I'd been 391 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: in l a like six months before Ravens, maybe even 392 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: more than that, and I'd had one boyfriend, you know, 393 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: like I'd only had one boyfriend in my whole life, 394 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: and his friend was getting married out there. So I 395 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: piggybacked like a couple auditions onto this wedding trip. And 396 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: he was so pissed about it because he had to 397 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: drive me around. It was l a. It was like 398 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: before map quest, you know, like it was before we 399 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: had to read a map to get around. And so 400 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: I go to this audition for Mike Toland and he 401 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: was directing radio with Cuba Gooding Jr. And I was 402 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: auditioning for the part of Ed Harris's daughter. And I 403 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: went in there and I did it, and it was 404 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: like kind of bitchy, and he was like, here's what 405 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: we need. We need you to be more vulnerable and 406 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: like tell your dad that you need him. And I remember, 407 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: like the look on my face because your dad's a 408 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: green beret, right, And I looked at him and I said, 409 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: have you ever been a teenage girl before? Like there's 410 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: no way, no way I would make him think that 411 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: I needed him. And they were like, well, it's good 412 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: to meet you. Someone else is going to get this part. 413 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: And so when I got cast, I barely audition one 414 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: for One Tree Hill because I think they used all 415 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: the old footage from that audition. They're like, we need 416 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 1: a bit, like there's this Burton girl and she's awful, 417 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: and so I just made a tape in New York 418 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: with the casting director and um I ended up getting 419 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: the job. But it was all very like I'd never 420 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: met everyone anyone. So when everyone was talking about tests 421 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: and things like that, I was like, what is a test? 422 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: What are you guys talking about? So when I showed 423 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: up in Wilmington's, everybody had already met each other because 424 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: they all read with each other in auditions or tests, 425 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: chemistry reads and stuff. Yeah, I just showed up and 426 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: I met Chad on Dawson's Creek. I've done one episode. 427 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: I've done the hundredth episode of Dawson's Creek. It was 428 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: an episode where all those kids go to the MTV 429 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: spring Bread were playing yourself and I played myself, and 430 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: it was it should have been an in because I remember, 431 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, my character's name is Hilary. They spelled it wrong. Um, 432 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 1: But Katie Holmes was telling me, like, oh, that Chad's 433 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: character was one of the handsome brothers. And my line was, 434 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: thank god you told me I probably would have slept 435 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: with him. And now, when you're playing yourself, you're very 436 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: sensitive about that, especially when you're super young. And I 437 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: was not a promiscuous when I wouldn't have a saying, 438 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: and so I said that. I was like, guys, I 439 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: got a problem with this line, and they're like, who 440 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: is this healthy thing? I was like, I'm not saying it, 441 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: and so it should have been an omen for like 442 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: the continuation of my career and saying this person I'm 443 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: stuff is this? Yeah? But Chad gotten to the van 444 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: our very first day we're like going to the read 445 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: through for the pilot, and introduced himself like we hadn't met, 446 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: and I remember being like, this is who, Like angsty, 447 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: bitchy stuff was legit, Like I was just being, you know, 448 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: I was a jerk kid. Brought that energy in. It 449 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: was real, real, Oh my god, I love it. What's 450 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: crazy to me is you telling that story makes me 451 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: realize that the three of us had the exact same 452 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: experience starting on our show. We all showed up to 453 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: spaces where everybody else knew everybody because when we showed up, 454 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: you then had done the pilot and you knew everybody, 455 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: but you were meeting everybody for all the Haley reshoots 456 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: for the first time. And then when I showed up 457 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: to start working, I had already been there for a bit. 458 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: You had been there for a week because I wasn't 459 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: in the pilot. I started in episode one but they 460 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: brought me out during the pilot reshoot scenes that you 461 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: were doing and and so it's blowing my mind that 462 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: the three of us women had the same repeat experience. 463 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: That's weird, that's crazy, and to learn that today is 464 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: really weird. I apologize for bringing a chip on my shoulder, 465 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: will show them. Um, what I think was really fun 466 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: is that we got to insert little tiny pieces of 467 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: our real selves into our characters. Because I don't know 468 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: that our boss is necessarily knew what they were doing 469 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: a lot either. It was new for a lot of them, 470 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: and so we got to influence little bits and pieces 471 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 1: of who our characters would become. I actually had been 472 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: a cheerleader in high school. I was a very grumpy 473 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: cheerleader in high school. I remember having like pictures of 474 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: Charles Manson and quotes of his on my megaphone and 475 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: like just to be And so when they created this character, 476 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I was like, WHOA, that hits close to home. Um, 477 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: what were pieces of your characters that really stood out 478 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: for you guys, either that we're there already or that 479 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: you inserted. Gosh, I'm trying to think about this because 480 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: I have, Um, well, first of all, I have the 481 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: worst long term me, Marie ever, you could make sure 482 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: that no one would know joy. Um. I mean I 483 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: remember getting there and being I was kind of, like 484 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, already used to being dropped into new situations 485 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: on my own and just having to sort of handle 486 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: it and connect with people and make friends. So I've 487 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: been doing that for a while so and I'm such 488 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: an introvert that I was also like, Um, I just 489 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: wanted to spend time in my hotel room and walk 490 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: around on my own, and yeah that you know, I'd 491 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: walked around just like being poetic and writing poetry and 492 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: back of napkins and things in my mind, writing songs 493 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: and like just so awkward and didn't know how to 494 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: actually have a real like spending time getting to know 495 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: somebody again. So I think a lot of my experience 496 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,959 Speaker 1: was colored by that. Um. But in terms of Haley 497 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: and and being on set, I mean I remembered remember 498 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: shooting the scene in the cafe with Karen and the 499 00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: chili and some thing about magazine pages being sticky. We're 500 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to watch this pilot. Well know what I'm 501 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: talking about, But there was something about that and I'm 502 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: was like mouthing off to Lucas and it felt very comfortable. 503 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Um Moira and Chibe were both really welcoming and really 504 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: um encouraging, and um, I felt like I had room 505 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: to play and uh and I think I resonated with 506 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: the sense that Haley felt kind of introverted and awkward 507 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: and didn't really know how to connect with people. Because 508 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: even though I'm I'm an extroverted introvert because of my business, 509 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: I've learned how to um walk into a room and 510 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: manage a conversation, connecting with lots of people and being charismatic, 511 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: But inside, I'm crawling into a hole and I can't 512 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: wait to be alone. So I think there was a 513 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: lot of that part of me that I recognized in 514 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: Haley and you know, connected with that what about you? 515 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: So oh man. It was really interesting because there was 516 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: a there was a boldness to Brooke Davis. Well, actually 517 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: I need to rewind her name wasn't even Brooke Davis. 518 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: It was terrible, like one percent now that there's anythink 519 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: there's anything wrong, but like that was not her name. Yeah, 520 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, like it doesn't it doesn't. It just doesn't 521 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: feel right. Is an expensive name, you know, it's so 522 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: funny is. I remember when we were getting everything settled 523 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: and h one of our writers was like, well, what 524 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: name do you like? And they suggested a couple. And 525 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: my best friend from college is a girl named Brooke, 526 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: and she is just like one of those people who 527 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: is so chic, Like she can put on something that 528 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: is actually like expensive and beautiful, or she can put 529 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: on a Zara T shirt and it looks like it's 530 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: a designer like somebody else we know. That's very sweet. 531 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: I always am like, this is like a nice outfit. 532 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: Why do I look like a teenage boy in This 533 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: is how I feel every day. Also, like every single 534 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: day I wear a pair of jeans in an oversized blazer. 535 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: But this is not the point important. I do love 536 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: a uniform, but I and I just there was something 537 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: about like her spirit even in college, Like I similarly 538 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: to you, I think I know how to I know 539 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: how to show up in a room, I know how 540 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 1: to do my job. I'm really really good at being 541 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: bold for other people. But I've realized, as a grown 542 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: up who has spent invested money in therapy, I'm actually 543 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: historically I have not been good at being bold for myself. 544 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: And my friend Brook from college. Was so unabashedly bold 545 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and was never ashamed of anything, and never embarrassed by anything, 546 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: and and never worried she was offending anyone. She was 547 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: so herself and I knew that this character was supposed 548 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: to be like that. And I think the interesting thing 549 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: is that I learned a little more about how to 550 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: do that for myself because I played Brooke Davis, and 551 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: I brought like deeply self conscious here and um and 552 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: and self searching to her. And I think I was 553 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: able to humanize her because very similarly to you, and 554 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: I know we all experienced this on our show. There 555 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: were things that were written for me to do as 556 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: this person that I just refused to do. I said, 557 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm not doing this. Yeah, we all had moments like that. 558 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: We all had that, and and I think there was 559 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: something really beautiful that that we got to be inspired 560 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: by our characters. We got to inspire our characters, and 561 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: weirdly we stuck up for each other, Like I'm like, oh, 562 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Briok Davis and I stuck up for each other every day. Yeah, 563 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: that's you know. I feel that I feel like Peyton 564 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: Sawyer is a very different person than I am, and 565 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm so defensive of her because she's like a broken 566 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: winged bird, you know. And and there are other people 567 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: in our industry who have done teen dramas who try 568 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: to distance themselves from it. It's like, guys, it's a genre, 569 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so for me always 570 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: like owning her and ending her it's been a life's work. 571 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: But also like, have we forgotten what is their show? Uh? 572 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: Come on? Claire Danes and Jared Leto's class life, Like 573 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: there are two of my favorite actors who make the 574 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: most incredible Academy Award nominated films we've ever seen. Like, 575 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't hate a teen drama. I love it. I 576 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: think it makes you. And you said something that I 577 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: thought was so smart all day. This is my I 578 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: know exactly what you're gonna mantra, and I love it. Listen, 579 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: all these folks out there winning awards with good scripts, 580 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm not impressed. Because if you script and make it 581 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: relatable and watchable and like make somebody cry, you're a winner. 582 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: I agree, And I think about that so often, and 583 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, if we can make you weep and have 584 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: a deep talk with your family after an episode of 585 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: our show on a very mediocre script the we can 586 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: we can jump sharks and you still love us, Like, 587 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: come on that that takes some real metal, if I 588 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: may say so, for all of us. So in watching, 589 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: in watching this, guys, I have listened. I have not 590 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: seen anything since I left either, like no, not and 591 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: I never saw the last three seasons because I was 592 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: like off having babies and like you know, just on 593 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: a different plane. And so frankly, I'm nervous watching because 594 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: it's like, I know it's going to be painful to 595 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: watch myself learn how to act on camera like I 596 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: wasn't in class. I've taken classes for years, I've done 597 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: theater forever, but TV acting is so so so different, 598 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: I am. I am also nervous to rewatch because I 599 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: I know where my personal life was during those ten years, 600 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: and I I know what you're literally health face just 601 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: turned red. What you're literally healthy? Um, we got a 602 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: lot of comedy. Yeah, But like I when I think 603 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: back on there's so many parts of myself that I 604 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: also have invested money in therapy. Have you know, done 605 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of works as you do when life kicks 606 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: your ass and U And when I think about the 607 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: sort of superiority complexes that I have am like how 608 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: judgmental and like how there's just so many things that 609 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I look back on my younger self and you I 610 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys do, but I cringe at 611 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: a lot of those moments. I mean, I'm still learning 612 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: to forgive myself for just being human and growing and learning. 613 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: But I think back and I know I inserted so 614 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: much of that into Haley, And so when I watch her, 615 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: when I have seen clips or things come on, I 616 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: always cringe because I'm just like, oh God, she's so 617 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: like that's is that what I was like, Oh God, 618 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I oh man, Well, you know what's 619 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: so interesting to me about it, though, is I also 620 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: feel like, and we've had this experience, the three of us, 621 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: over the years, and you know, we've talked about this 622 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: with the fans. So many of you listening at home 623 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: probably no facets of these stories, but there was so 624 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: much not only of us as young adults, who, by 625 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: the way, knew nothing, we were learning in real times 626 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: the first time a lot of us were away from 627 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: our parents. Yes, like it was kind of like being 628 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: pushed off a cliff and trying to get your like 629 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: sky diving back back on. At the same time, it 630 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: was really it's a wonder none of us is dead, 631 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: So congratulations. Like as you we said last night at dinner, 632 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: we all had dinner last night, and you said you 633 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: were talking about the benefit of being in Wilmington's when 634 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: we weren't being able to be snapped by paparazzi coming 635 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: out of a restaurant. You know, like that stuff messes 636 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 1: with you when you're that yeng and no wonder, a 637 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of you know, kids without guidance, 638 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: without their parents still there, just kind of went off 639 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: the rails, you know that. And I don't know that 640 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: we would have been any different if we hadn't been 641 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: protected by our location in a lot of ways. I mean, 642 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: even the aspects of it that we did experience were 643 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: really traumatizing for me. Like I it was so hard 644 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: to handle this notion that everyone wants you to fail 645 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: so they can make fun of you. But also you're 646 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: meant to be perfect, but no one knows how to 647 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: be perfect, let alone an adult. Because we were twenty 648 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: years old, and like I mean, you know, the only 649 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: thing that ever because I was always like drunk, hungover, 650 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: like gonna be the hard part of watching this for 651 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: me is like I was, like I was a brute um, 652 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: but the only paparazzi mess I ever ran into was 653 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: at this hotel. Well, we are at the W Hotel 654 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: in Westwood, and I came out in like season five 655 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: or season six to start pitching TV shows that I'd 656 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: created with my little brother Billy, and so Billy had 657 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: worked on our show. Billy and I are staying here, 658 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: maybe even in one of these rooms because I knew 659 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: it had like two bedrooms here. And the next thing 660 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: I know, like the magazines reporting Hillary Burton seen laughing 661 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: over dinner at the W Hotel with a mystery man 662 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: my brother so late, you know, and I felt so violated, 663 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: and that happened to me once, you know, And so 664 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. You're right, the kids that are just 665 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 1: under the microscope all the time. But it's so interesting 666 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: because when we think about it, there was that external attention. 667 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: There was the very real world of what we were 668 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: learning on set and being human beings making mistakes and 669 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: you know, being hung over and figuring out and and 670 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, never never, it's part of my problem. By 671 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: the way, we'll get you there, we were making up 672 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: for it, but I've done since then. I think that 673 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: there's something so interesting also about our ability now the 674 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: privilege really of getting a version of a do over 675 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: of this female friendship that is so important to the 676 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: three of us that has been such a lifeline. We 677 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: do have these tattoos on the inside that nobody else has, 678 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: and we've been able to be like, oh wow, weird 679 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: to learn that there were some adults who didn't want 680 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: us to be friends because they thought we would negotiate together, 681 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: so they like pitted us against each other at twenty 682 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: that's dark like. And yet no matter what anybody ever tried, 683 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: the ways they wanted to mess with us, with the 684 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: way the industry was trying to mess with kids in 685 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: the early two thousands or anything, like, the three of 686 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: us came out like Jones of arc like just out 687 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: of the fire, like white can't with us, and I 688 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: really I love it. Yeah, all of us got involved 689 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: in advocacy. We're all a little surly um And I 690 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: would say to us, you us no, never, No, I 691 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: mean I think rewatching it together as a group is 692 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: going to be fun because I didn't know what you 693 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: guys were going through the show and all we could do, 694 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: especially at that ages, assume like it's one of the 695 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: things that we don't at that time. I guess when 696 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: we were being raised different generated text, like we couldn't 697 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: even taste each other. I had a motor role of Razor, 698 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: and I thought it was so cool, slip like wow, 699 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: that t mobile one that was like a stiver, the 700 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: sound of the sidekick opening and then the soft keys, 701 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: the like taught how to be like the value of 702 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: being vulnerable with each other and so that it was 703 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: okay to just be like, guys, I feel insecure when 704 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm around you and all you're doing is talking and 705 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: bouncing off each other, and I don't know what to 706 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: say and I can't keep up, and like, can you 707 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 1: just like make space for me? Like nobody would have 708 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: taught me to say that when I it's just not 709 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: wasn't part of the generation we were raised, so we 710 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: can't know. And it feels so special. And I think 711 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: about all the young women who reach out to all 712 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: of us all the time, who are watching the show 713 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: now and who talk about how important our on screen 714 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,959 Speaker 1: friendships are, and I'm like, man, we're getting the better 715 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: version of any version of a friendship we had on 716 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: screen or otherwise, we're getting it now in our adulthood, 717 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: in this new era. To your point, Joy of like 718 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: women actually being taught to go to bat for each 719 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: other and for themselves. Yeah, like we're not each other's 720 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: competition where each other's greatest champions. But back then everyone 721 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: around us wanted us to compete with each other. And 722 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that all this stuff that's 723 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: so scary to watch, Joys the talented one, Sophia is 724 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: the gorgeous one, and you're the angry one. And I 725 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I made horrible things. It's not wrong. 726 00:39:55,200 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: It's like it's pretty angry. You're also beautiful, and we 727 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: all do okay for ourselves. But well doing this, I 728 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: think those titles are a fun thing to poke at. Yeah, 729 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 1: like we're going to have our friends on the show. 730 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: Lee had his experiences, Antoine, James, all of our peers 731 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: also had those experiences, so throughout the course of this 732 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: whole series, Like, I'm excited to have them on because 733 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a totally different experienced things we never did. 734 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: For sure, this is what you were saying. Sophia's I 735 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: think one of the it's the biggest reason why we 736 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: wanted to do this podcast because as as fun as 737 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: it is to reconnect, I love doing this with you girls, 738 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, this is this is such a 739 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: cool revisit to a major pop culture moment. Yes, but 740 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 1: the fact that now as as older women, you know, 741 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: Hillary and I are moms raising young girls also, um, 742 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: just being able to offer to the younger generation a 743 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: vision of what a sisterhood can look like. Um, for 744 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: women who grew up watching the show, to be able 745 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: to revisit that maybe with some of their girlfriends. You know, 746 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: maybe you'll you out there listening, will learn along with 747 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,320 Speaker 1: us some of the things that we are some of 748 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: our takeaways, some of the things that we're learning as 749 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: we heal in some ways, which I think this is 750 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: going to be healing in a lot of ways. Second 751 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: season mullet, I had, I don't know if yeah, But anyway, 752 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I just think I think it's going to be great, 753 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: And I think I'm really excited because I think that's 754 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: going to be really helpful for a lot of a 755 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: lot of young women tuning in. Yeah, I do too. 756 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's get weird. UM, Sorry you can always 757 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: count on me to be I know you can always 758 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: count on me because I'm like I love to lean 759 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: in any other reason, I got a joke, some funny 760 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: feelings where yeah, this is why I was always over. 761 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: This is why we're a good unit. Yeah, it's it's 762 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: we were cast really well. And it's weird to think 763 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: that there was a person out there who is responsible 764 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: for choosing our friendships for us, um and for me 765 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: as a kid that was hard because I was like, 766 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: you can't tell me who to be friends with, but 767 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: like they did a really good job, Like we all 768 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 1: turned out great in the conventions we do are so 769 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: fun and so this is an extension of that should 770 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: be great. Um. So yes, we're you know, we've got 771 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: a whole how many seasons nine? We have a hundred 772 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: and eighties seven hours of television we do it. It's 773 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: so many hours. That's a lot. It's a lot. Like 774 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: when we get those messages and someone's like I'm rewatching 775 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: it from the start for the fourth time, I'm like, 776 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: thank you. And also do youre or like a job? 777 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: Are you really us? Okay? Food? Yeah, who's going to 778 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 1: be the person you're most excited to have? On and 779 00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: pick their brain. Paul's gonna be a blast. No, Lie, 780 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. I've got a lot of energy. Also, 781 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear Moira's perspective because like she 782 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: was our age when we started our show. Yeah, and 783 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: now I'm like, were we I just want to look 784 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: at her and be like, were we idiots? Did you? Like? 785 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: He's going to have Barbara too. Antone for me is 786 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: so fun because his perspective on Antonina had like kids 787 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: who were teenagers when we were seeing the show, and 788 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: so he also was removed from it in a way 789 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: where he could just watch us like spin our wheels 790 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: and be messy and loved it. Like when anton called 791 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: you and just like you need to go out tonight. 792 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: We're going to sidebar, you know, like you all right, 793 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to get a lecture tonight. And he would 794 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,800 Speaker 1: just make sure that everything was cool. He was like 795 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: a good negotiator. Yeah, Anton's the party, he really is. 796 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: And for anyone listening at home who might not know, 797 00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: Paul played Dan, Moira played Karen, Barbara played up and 798 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:11,800 Speaker 1: Antoine played Skills. When you think about the sort of 799 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: epic feeling of oh my god, I've been cast on 800 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: a w B show. Do you guys remember, Because when 801 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: I when I think about landing at you know, our 802 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: sweet little six Gate Airport, which, by the way, when 803 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: we've gone back for conventions and win Awa, I just 804 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: love it here. It still smells the same, perfect. But 805 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: I remember leaving the airport and I had to go 806 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: straight to the studio for like a first meeting. And 807 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: when I pulled into screen Gems, the side of one 808 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: of the stages had that huge Dawson's Creek mural on it, 809 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: and I just remember thinking, Oh my god, I'm here, 810 00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 1: and it was so great is happening. I was just 811 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: kind of the day. Still our own big old heads 812 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: got put up on the side they put and they did, 813 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: but it wasn't like the side of the cafeteria, the 814 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: entire sidewall. Yeah, I was down with that. We all 815 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: landed in different parts of town to like when you 816 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 1: first get cast on a Warner Brothers show, you all 817 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: stay at like the river View Sweets in Wilmington's you 818 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: know which is the Sweets. It's like an extended stay hotel. 819 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: But then we all went off and picked our own 820 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: places to live and at the beach, right, didn't you 821 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: got to the beach? Oh my gosh, I think I did, 822 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 1: because that was the year we got that those dogs. 823 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: Remember so fair we got those dogs. Oh we went 824 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: on a Saturday and got plane. No. Um, yeah, I 825 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: wasn't invited to Poppy Day. I was hungover party. I 826 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: think the beach so angry that moved downtown second season, 827 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think where did you go? Well? I 828 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: had the very first place I got because they put 829 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: me up for the pilot. And then it was like, okay, child, 830 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: here's a chunk of money. Go find a place to live. 831 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to. Like I'd never signed a least 832 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: on my own before, I didn't know how to do that. 833 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: And so I found an apartment for like six hundred 834 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars a month that was directly across the 835 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: street from Karen's Cafe. I was living above Fire Belly, 836 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 1: and it was the first time I've ever lived alone. 837 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 1: And there was this dude next door to me who 838 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: was so scary. His name was Glenn. If he's listening, 839 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 1: I don't even care that you know you're scary, because 840 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: you're listening to this, which proves your scary. So the 841 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: way Glenn was so weird and like with lean out 842 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: on his balcony to peek in my balcony, and then 843 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: I found these holes in the wall and I was like, 844 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: you did not, but I didn't know if it was 845 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: just a building or like Glenn was like Anthony Perkins psycho. 846 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: So I was so scary. So that is when I 847 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: started inviting the crew to come over every time they 848 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: wrapped at Karen's cafe, just because I didn't want to 849 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 1: be by myself. And so I ended up having like 850 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: ragers at this little six d dollar apartment um and 851 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: it was fun. It was a great time. I was 852 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: not far. I was also off Front Street. The first 853 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: apartment I found was that apartment. It was just in 854 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: such a weird little building that I think there were 855 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: only like four apartments. There was a weird staircase that 856 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: went up the side of every level, and I think 857 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,720 Speaker 1: it was like two apartments per floor. It was basically 858 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: the unused space that someone realized they could be making 859 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: money on because it was the other side of the 860 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: rooftop of the real cafe. It was all that exposed 861 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: break because I think it had been outside and then 862 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: they made it inside and they put these four apartments 863 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,360 Speaker 1: in this random and it was so cool. And I 864 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: remember having to negotiate with the parking lot across the 865 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: street because there was obviously like there was no part, 866 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: there was nothing. I negotiated with the parking lot that 867 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: was across the street that was like a you know, 868 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,359 Speaker 1: pay by day place, and I like ran around until 869 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: I found the owner, like in a bar, and I 870 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: was like, hey, like, I live across the street. Is 871 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: there anyway I could just like pay you every month 872 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: to park? And I paid nine a month to have 873 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: a parking spot, which was so much money to me 874 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 1: at the time. And I think about like people complaining 875 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 1: about how in New York they have to pay a 876 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 1: month for parking. Maybe I shouldn't have been complaining, but 877 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: we were just so broke, Like, you know, it was 878 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: all so weird. I remember, you know, you get your 879 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: like little they give you a couple thousand dollars and 880 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 1: they're like buy your own plane ticket and then move 881 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: across the country with all your stuff, and you're like, okay, okay, scary, 882 00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,760 Speaker 1: But I loved that apartment bunch of scrap booking stuff. 883 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: When you're like, this is my scrap booking room. I 884 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,320 Speaker 1: was so my whole quote, dining room table, whatever that was, 885 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: was just covered in photo album and I think I 886 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: was into it for like a year and then I 887 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 1: was like, well, well, I just have a I have 888 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot of I have a what's that called, um 889 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: decush no card stock, card stock. I'm gonna card stock 890 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,400 Speaker 1: and I'm going to make borders and it's going to 891 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,480 Speaker 1: be beautiful. And I was like, no, I'm not. I tried. Listen, 892 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: We've got a whole TV show that's the scrap Book. 893 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 1: But see this thing, even when it's not gonna last, 894 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm really committed to the thing. I decided to try 895 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: to do, even if it's just for a moment. So 896 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: many hobbies that I've been like, scrap looking, I'm going 897 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: to do that. I'm going to learn how to I 898 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: don't know play the guitar. Never did that either, but 899 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,800 Speaker 1: I have one. Do you heard of being an artist? 900 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, explore all these different ideas. 901 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: Damn it asked Kitting. That's right. We all picked up 902 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: weird hobbies to keep ourselves busy on set. A lot 903 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,800 Speaker 1: of you know, pre social media. Now everybody just like 904 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 1: scrolls through their phone back. We actually talked to each 905 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,399 Speaker 1: other and had the knitting circles kind of not really. 906 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,800 Speaker 1: The dogs, Yeah, guys, I didn't get a dog. I 907 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: did little any She was in Carolina, Carolina, remember that 908 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: little God Little Golden. I was a shoe lab or retriever. 909 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what she was. They were they were dogs. Yeah, 910 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: she ended up on a farm. I just wasn't ready 911 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: to take care of an animal that that juncture in 912 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: my life. But I am now listen, before we wrap up, 913 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: I have kind of a little surprise for us. I 914 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 1: like surprises. Joy always has good surprises. Yeah, okay, So 915 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: this was given to me by um one of our 916 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: executive producers, Greg Range at the rap of the pilot. 917 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: Congratulations of the It could have been the end of 918 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: season one. It was a big gift, So maybe it 919 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: was the end of season one. I'm not sure. I 920 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: just for having this moment was definitely like the first 921 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 1: at the very beginning. I mean, this is in six 922 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 1: box of Don Peignon and it's not a box, it's 923 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 1: a bottle. Because the bottle. Yeah, Joy, what did you 924 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: do that we didn't do? I thought everybody was like, 925 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: I think you truly like rett I guess that it 926 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: was at the end of the pilot. So anyway, I've 927 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: been saving it for, you know, since two three. Don't 928 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 1: make it worse two thousand three. But let's pop it open. Actually, 929 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: enjoy this bottle. I've been saving for exactly the right moment. 930 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: There's anything more dramatic and fancy than into girl. I 931 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: love fancy. And by the way, like, it's so nice 932 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: to be in a moment when you know it's special 933 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: like we were kids. I don't know that we recognized 934 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 1: all the time, and so reuniting now feels good because 935 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: we know what special enjoy is gonna. Okay, wow, that 936 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: was very professionally done. Thank you. I drink a lot 937 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: of champagne. Apparently. Look at the color. This is like 938 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: a nice amber color. Um, you're welcome. Listen. I have 939 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: moved several times with this bottle, so there's a good 940 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: chance it's terrible, but honestly kind. I love you guys, 941 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 1: drama queens. Yeah that works. Oh well, kids, we're gonna 942 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 1: have a great time. Yes we are. We'll see you 943 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: next week. What are we doing next next week? Where 944 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: we are watching the pilots? So before you watch our show, 945 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you, if you want to participate, go 946 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: watch the pilot and then and then come listen. We're 947 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,439 Speaker 1: gonna have a nice chick about all the fun things 948 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: we remember and who else knows what else is going 949 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: to come up a little bit, talk, just a little, 950 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:27,879 Speaker 1: just a little. We deserve it, Champagne. Hey, everybody, just by, Hey, 951 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,280 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. 952 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens 953 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: O t H or email us at Drama Queens at 954 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 1: I heart radio dot com. See you next time. Were 955 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,120 Speaker 1: all about that high school drama, Girl, Drama Girl, all 956 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: about them high school queens and forever. 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