1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: He had his first parade, he had a lot of fun. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: We all saw it. Wants to come back. We want 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Kiki back. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, good afternoon, and welcome to a live edition 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: of Dodger's Territory with Clint Pesius. I'm Alana Rizzo. Thank 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: you so much for being here. We appreciate you guys 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: as always. Please rate us five stars, like subscribe, tell 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: your friends YouTube everywhere that you'd get your podcasts. We 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: appreciate you very much. All right, let's get to it. 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: The big ticket, Clint. 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: It's not everybody's mind, Clint, that's all we're talking about. 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: I know we're kind of talking about it ad nauseum 14 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: if you will, But listen, people want to know. The 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: people want to know why Tayoscar Hernandez has not been 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: signed yet. And the reason we want to know is 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: because he has ingratiated himself to Dodgers fans and he's 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: a really good right fielder and he would be a 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: compliment to what is our already a very good Dodgers team. 20 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: I know from a very very good source that he 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: would love nothing more than to come back and be 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: a Los Angeles Dodger. They just need to figure it 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: out right. So again, the contract situation seems to be 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of a sticking point. Perhaps it's the money, 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: perhaps it's the extra year. Mark Finzand had this to say, 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: the Dodgers and Hernandez seemed headed for a reunion, but 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: the two sides haven't been able to reach a deal 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: thus far. That opened the door for other teams, namely 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: the Red Sox and the Blue Jays, so two teams 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 2: in the Al East to jump in on the outfielder 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: who is seeking a three year deal and the two 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: hundred or the twenty two to twenty four million dollars 33 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: a year range per sources. Now, if they don't get 34 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: Taoscar Hernandez, perhaps that leads them to go to Anthony Santander, 35 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: who is not going back to the Baltimore Oriols. But this, 36 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: I ask you, my dear, and you said this first. 37 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: They cannot lose Tioscar Hernandez over a one year deal 38 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty five million dollars. I'm sorry, Give 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: the man three year, seventy five million, seventy five eighty 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: mins and be done with it. 41 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if this is the deal that we're 42 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: kind of looking at I thought that there was going 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: to be more of a hold up for a fourth year. 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: But if the hold up is a third year, what 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: the hell is taking so long? Get this ish done already? 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: He wants to come back. The Dodgers need him, because 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: we'll be talking a little bit later in the show 48 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: about the outlook for this team and are they built 49 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: good enough right now, assuming no other moves right now? 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Are they good enough to win a World Series well 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: without Tayaskar Hernandez spoiler alert, maybe they are not. I 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: think he goes a long way, and you know, I'll 53 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: throw myself into oncoming traffic if it's one year, twenty 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: four million dollars. 55 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe not that much. 56 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: I'm not that kind of fan, but still I will 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: be sad and I will hit the bottle heavy. If 58 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: they let one year come between you know, him coming 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: back or going elsewhere, that's just a problem. 60 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: I mean, because yeah, you talk about going elsewhere, so 61 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 2: what is elsewhere? I mean, where else do you go 62 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: if you don't bring Taoscar Hernandez back. And Mark Finesand 63 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: went on to say that Anthony Santander, who had a 64 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 2: nice year last year, for the Baltimore Orioles forty four 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: home runs. You know, perhaps though he's looking for a 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 2: five year, one hundred million dollar deal, so that aav 67 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: pretty easy. Matt, there is twenty million a year. I 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: would gladly take Taoscar Hernandez for three years seventy five 69 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: or three years seventy or whatever it is over a 70 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 2: five year commitment. Now. I understand that Anthony Santander is 71 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: two years younger than Taoscar Hernandez, But are we interested 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: in Santander Clint if things go south with Taoscar and 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: he for whatever reason, is not back in a Dodger uniform. 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: Santander forty four home runs. He's a switch hitter, sprint 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: speed not the greatest. I had his conversation on Fair 76 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: Territory today with Ken Rosenthal because I was like, Wow, 77 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised he hasn't been signed yet now 78 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: that Soto's off the board. But do we go the 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: Santander route if Taoscar is not a Dodger. 80 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: No. 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I would rather see them go in house. He signed 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Michael CONFORDA that's a clear backup plan. Ideally, it's an 83 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: in addition to plan with the return of Tia Oscar Hernandez. 84 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: But you have him. 85 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: We still want to see Key Key Hernandez come back. 86 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: We know now key Key Hernandez wants to come back. 87 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: But Santander, listen, he picked a good year to have 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: a really really good year. But the Dodgers don't need 89 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: If you're talking about somebody who's slowing down and not 90 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: a great fielder and doesn't really hit for average, I 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: just don't see that fitting in. You have forty four 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: home runs. It's sexy chicks dig the long ball, but 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: I want some guys who can get the job done 94 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: in the postseason. And one thing we know ta Oscar 95 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: Hernandez brings to this team is that clutch gene, the 96 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: it factor, the seeds a smile. I said one thing 97 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: and then it just threw out a list there. But no, 98 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm a no. I'm a big fat no on a 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: lot of things. But also, Anthony Santander. 100 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: The self deprecation is off the charts with you. But okay, 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: so you we got you know, Tasker Hernandez thirty three 102 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: home runs. That's nothing to sneeze that either. It's not 103 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 2: forty four, But I think overall player, I think Tasker 104 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: Hernandez is a better fit for the Los Angeles Dodgers 105 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: than what the need is than perhaps Anthony Santander would 106 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: be in a Dodger uniform. You had also mentioned the 107 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: other Hernandez as far as the Hernandez bros Is concerned, 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: and Keiky Hernandez recently had this to say about his 109 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: priority list this offseason. 110 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: Main priority for me probably going coming back. I think 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 4: this team is the Dodgers are very well positioned to 112 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 4: you know, make another run and be the first back 113 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: to back team since the New York Yankees in ninety 114 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: nine in two thousand. 115 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: Well, the clip there ended, Yeah, but he gets it. 116 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: He this is a man, this is a boy at 117 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: this stage in his career. He wants to go out 118 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: there and he wants to win some World Series. He 119 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: had his first parade, He had a lot of fun. 120 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: We all saw it. Keiki wants to come back. We 121 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: want Keki back. What the hell is going on here? 122 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: As well? 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: Well, I think key K is at the point in 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: his career where, unfortunately he's not the top priority as 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: far as signing is concerned. He's going to come back, 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: as you know, it's you know, a lower value as 127 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: far as contract is concerned, and they have other things 128 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: that they need to worry about before the complimentary pieces 129 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: that are the Key k Hernandez is of the world. 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: I mean, they have to figure out right field, right, 131 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: I mean, whether that's going to be Key k Hernandez 132 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: or if Confordo plays and right which I don't think 133 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: that's going to be the case. But you know, is 134 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: a platoon situation between Key k and somebody else. So 135 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: I do believe Kik will be back in the fold. 136 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: I just don't think that he's at top of mind 137 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 2: for the Dodgers priority list right now just because of 138 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: where he's at in his career. I mean, he does 139 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: bring a lot of gloves to the yard. He can 140 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: do a lot of things. And I've said it a 141 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: thousand times. I'll say it a thousand more. I want 142 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: Key k Hernandez on every single postseason roster for the 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: rest of my life because he's just that type of player. 144 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: I'll ask you this and one I'll comment on this. 145 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the crowd being upset and me calling him Kiki. 146 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: Yes, I know how to. 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: I know, want to say Enrique Hernandez too if you want, 148 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: But I funk around I'll call him Kiky sometimes because 149 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: it's fun. I've known the boy for a long time. 150 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: But I'll ask you, I'll ask you this when it 151 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: comes to Kik. Sorry, I lost I lost my point 152 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: there on the Dya tribe. But with with Kei ke 153 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: and you know, mixing in with the guys they already 154 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: have in house. And again we're gonna talk more about 155 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: this in a little bit. You got Confordo, you got 156 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Andy Pajes. I was hoping to word my way to 157 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: a point. Just bring Keiky. 158 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: No, I mean, the thing is I mean, but but 159 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: but let's look, it's okay, let's bring up the graphic 160 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 2: of you had it on your show All Dodgers with 161 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: Clint Pasius about the the options we have as far 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 2: as right fielders are concerned, the projected lineup the bench. 163 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you still have James Outman on here as 164 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: an outfielder. Of course, you have Andy Pajas in right field. 165 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: This is again, this is assuming, guys, assuming that Taoscar 166 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: Hernandez or somebody else not named Taoscar Hernandez is not 167 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: patrolling right field for the Los Angeles Dodgers. Your outfield 168 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: as it sits right now, we know Tommy Edmund is 169 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: going to be in center field because we know that 170 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: Mookie Betts is going to be your shortstop to start 171 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: the season. You seemingly believe Michael Conforto and I do too, 172 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: will be in left field, and then you have to 173 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: figure out that right field spot. Is it outmant, is 174 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: it a combination, is it a platoon situation? I don't know. 175 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: I believe it's going to be Taoscar Hernandez. I believe 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: the Dodgers outfield will be Michael Confordo, Taoskar Hernandez, and 177 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: right Tommy Edmund in center. That's that's what I think 178 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: is going to be. I mean, they're not going to 179 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: sign Conforto to a one year, fifteen million dollar dealer 180 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 2: or whatever it was for him to ride the pine right, 181 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: So that's I believe that's going to be the Dodgers, 182 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: at least starting outfield to begin this season. 183 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, bringing back both of those Hernandez brothers, you they're 184 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: not related, by the way, you feel immediately better about 185 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: this team's odds to go out there and win a ballgame, 186 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: win a World Series, advance in a host season. 187 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 3: Without him. 188 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: We saw those names and I said this just before 189 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: we went live. Anytime you see James Outman on a 190 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: projected you know, forty man or twenty six man lists, 191 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: I think the Dodgers are hurting a little bit. And 192 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: that's nothing terribly against James Outman. Maybe he's a good 193 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: ballplayer for the White Sox, maybe he's a good ballplayer 194 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: for the Miami Marlins. 195 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: But why would you do that to James Outman. I 196 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: remember two screen trainings ago you say that at the 197 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: White Sox because I think we were probably playing the 198 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: White Sox, because of course, we play the White Sox 199 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 2: every day at Camelback because there are partners there at 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: camel Back Ranch. But I remember saying that if this 201 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: kid doesn't make the big league roster to start the season, 202 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 2: I was like screaming it off of the mountaintops. I 203 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: do believe that that's still in him. I don't think 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: we realize how difficult this game really is. You know, 205 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 2: there's a big jump sometimes from Triple A to the 206 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: big league level. And I still think James Outman has 207 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: got some pop in that bat. I think he's got 208 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: to learn how to play at the big league level. 209 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: Do I want him necessarily as one of my three 210 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: starters in the outfield. Not when you have the likes 211 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: of Taoscar Hernandez, Tommy Edmund you know, and Michael Knfor 212 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: they just have more experience. But I'm not again, just 213 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 2: like Key k and just like Gavin, I'm not ready 214 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: to pull the plug yet on James Outman. 215 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm saying is somewhere that's a softer landing. 216 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: We understand the window the Dodgers are in right now. 217 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: You got Sho Hey o Tani, you got Mookie Betts 218 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: still at this age. Freddie Freeman stell in a contract. 219 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: You're trying to win right now, and like Keik just 220 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: told us a minute ago, you know, you're trying to 221 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: bring it, you know, be the first team to go 222 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: back back to back World Series champions since ninety nine 223 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: two thousand. If James Outman is one of those guys, 224 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: and we've seen him go on a run, finish what 225 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: third and Rookie of the Year voting in twenty twenty three. 226 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: When he's right, he's a very very good player. 227 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: But he's also you know, I don't know if he's religious, 228 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: because he's got a little bit of a holy. 229 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: Swing here there. 230 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: Maybe playing elsewhere will help him get more big league 231 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: at bats, and you know that also clears a roster 232 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: spot for somebody like Kei k Hernandez and so on 233 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: and so and forth. 234 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: You know, so as we're talking this much. 235 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: About, you know, James Outman, when people are going to 236 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: see Chris Taylor on that list. But that's another whole 237 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: thing before we talk about that. Though I don't know 238 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: if you saw this. I'm assuming you did because you're 239 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: a pro and you pay attention to things. But Devin Williams, 240 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 1: of course not a Dodger, traded to the New York Yankees, 241 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: and he thought, he told media he thought he was 242 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: going to the Dodgers. He was told he was going 243 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: to the Dodgers. 244 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 3: Of course. You talked a couple weeks. 245 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Ago with Ken Rosenthal on Fair Territory about the fact 246 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: that the Dodgers are looking for another back end guy, 247 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: whether it was a Devin Williams, whether it was a 248 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: Tanner Scott, Well, Devin Williams off the table. What do 249 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: you make of this and how close do you think 250 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: something could have been. 251 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: I really would have loved to have seen Devin Williams 252 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: on that one year deal be a Los Angeles Dodger 253 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: because I love his stuff. I think he's incredibly, incredibly good, 254 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: and I know that that would have been a price point. 255 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: I think that Andrew Friedman was more comfortable. We've talked 256 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: about it at length two how Friedman doesn't like to 257 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: spend boockoo bucks on relievers. You saw him bring Blake 258 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: trying back on a two year, twenty two million dollar deal, 259 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: with the exception of Kenley Jansen back in the day, 260 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: and that same offseason, remember when they gave Rich Hill 261 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: the three year deal, justin Turner their four year deal, 262 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: Kenley Jansen the five year deal, all at the same 263 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: aav for those guys. I mean, that's but that was 264 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: a bona fide closer situation when Kenley was at the 265 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: height of his career. I don't know that the Dodgers 266 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: are willing to spend big bucks on relievers anymore. And 267 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 2: Tanner Scott comes with a bigger price tag and a 268 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: longer term deal. But now that Devin Williams apparently you know, 269 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 2: thought he was coming to LA there obviously had to 270 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: be conversations that that was a possibility. Devin Williams isn't 271 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: just going to say that like out of the blue 272 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: like Oh, I thought I was going to la. I mean, 273 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: obviously he's having conversations with his agent about what's happening, 274 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: right for whatever reason, He's a Yankee now, and that's fine. 275 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: I just don't know if Tanner Scott is the right 276 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 2: fit just based on contract and money. But then I'm 277 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: thinking who else is available? 278 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: Right? 279 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: But for the first time in a long time, Clint, 280 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm okay with the bullpen pieces that we have. We 281 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: talked about it on our last show on Monday, that 282 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: it would be nice to have another back end of 283 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 2: the bullpen piece, but it's not a necessity, and I 284 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: feel pretty good if everyone's healthy. Okay, barring everyone being healthy, 285 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: I feel pretty good about our bullpen. If in fact, 286 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: Dustin May is actually put in the bullpen as well. 287 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: I mean, think about the pieces that we have. Let's, 288 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 2: you know, talk about our relievers right now, right, I mean, 289 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: we have obviously Blake Trining his back, which was part 290 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 2: of my Christmas wish list. We have Michael Kopek, we'll 291 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: have him for an entire year. Evan Phillips, who was tremendous, 292 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Alex Vessia who was tremendous, Anthony Bonda coming up big 293 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: in a lot of situations last year, Ryan Brazier, Ben casparraus. 294 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: I think Dustin May should be in the bullpen, Edgardo 295 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: Henriquez of course, Michael Grove, and then Giovann and Diegos, 296 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: who I believe is on that minor league deal right 297 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 2: to see if he makes this rotation or excuse me, 298 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: the bullpen. I'm okay with this right now, based on 299 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 2: health and based on the starters that we have, if 300 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: they can go kind of deep into games. You know, 301 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: I don't know what I have loved to have Devin Williams, Yeah, 302 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: what I'd like to have Tanner Scott. Sure, I just 303 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: don't know if that's in the cards for them. 304 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 305 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: I mean at some point, you know you'd love to 306 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: see Tanner Scott. But at some point, you know, there 307 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: has to be a number, a financial number, a payroll 308 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: number that this team does not want to exceed. 309 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: And I can't right now. 310 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: I can't envision them spending on taoskar Key k and 311 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Tanner Scott. That just seems like a lot, knowing they 312 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: also are going to have to spend some money on 313 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw, where we already know there's a kind of 314 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: a gentleman's agreement he will be back at some point. 315 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: That's fully the expectation, and that sparked in my head 316 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: what I was going to say tell you a few 317 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: minutes ago about key K. 318 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: So we've had this on my channel. 319 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: We've had this kind of idea, and I've talked to 320 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: other people about it that may maybe key K knows 321 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: he's going back. Maybe there's kind of a gentleman's agreement, 322 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, something, a handshake agreement in place for Keik 323 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: to return to the DOC. But right now understanding the 324 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: same way Clayton Kershaw understanding that they kind of need 325 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: some forty man roster room to wiggle with through this 326 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: off season, do you think that's something they would do 327 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: or is that just not smart for Kik, who maybe 328 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: he can find a bigger, better deal for himself out there. 329 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: On the open market. 330 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: Claton Kershaw one thousand percent. Clayton Kershaw has the pedigree 331 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: in the resume and the black type and the Hall 332 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: of Fame lock, first ballot, Hall of Fame lock. A 333 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: gentleman agreement is there for that. I don't think KK 334 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: is in that position where a gentleman agreement. If I'm Kik, 335 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: I make sure I get a contract somewhere. I think 336 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: I think, obviously he wants to be a Dodger, but 337 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I'm not privy to that conversation, 338 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: but you know, I just think Kik is looking for 339 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: a job right now. Kershaw knows he has a job, 340 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: and Kershaw will always have a job with the Dodgers 341 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: in some capacity. I mean, he is a Dodger for life, 342 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: right And by the way, I forgot to even mention 343 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: Bruce dar Graderol in the bullpen, who obviously won't be 344 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: ready to start the beginning of the season, but he's 345 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: going to be a piece of that bullpen at some point. 346 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: So I do feel really good about Grattarol and the bullpen. 347 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: Gentlemen in agreement, Kersh sure, Ki k not sure. 348 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: I agree with that. That's kind of how I felt 349 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: as well. Well. So we've laid kind of the groundwork. 350 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: Here, maybe even talked a little bit ahead to what 351 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about right now and Bleeding Blue. 352 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: But the big question I have for everybody in the chat, 353 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: and I do want to have the chat participate in 354 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: this section of the show is do we feel the 355 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Dodgers are good enough right now? You saw some of 356 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: the names on that list. Do we feel they're good 357 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: enough right now to compete for and win a World Series? 358 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: So let's start to bleeding blue, and then let's look 359 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: at the latest World Series odds by our friends over 360 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: at bet MGM. 361 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you have it, There you have it. So 362 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: the Dodgers are at at plus three point fifty to 363 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: win it all? Is that what we're saying according to 364 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: bet MGM. 365 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's uh, we can call that. I 366 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: believe in odds on favorite, and I'll fully admit I'm 367 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: not a big time betting boy. I don't understand these things. 368 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: I bet dollar bills with my buddies on you know, 369 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: foul balls and balls and strikes and whether or not 370 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: somebody in the parking lot is going to get too 371 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: tossed during spring training while we're all tailgating. So I 372 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: don't know a whole lot, but I know the numbers 373 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: of the Dodgers show at the top and it says 374 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: plus three three point fifty. 375 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: That tells me they have the best chance right now? 376 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: Is what that MGM is saying. 377 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeahs are saying the Dodgers right now, and understandably they 378 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: do have a lot of talent. You feel a lot 379 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: better if they add at the bare minimum taoscar Hernandez back. 380 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: But again that's the question, are they good enough right now? 381 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: What is your take? And let's look at that lineup, 382 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: because you know, you got to score more points than 383 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: the other team. And I know people are gonna be 384 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: pissed at me for calling it points. Yes, it's runs. 385 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: It's a joke. It's a joke. 386 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: No, people don't understand. Everybody. Everybody that listens to us 387 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 2: is so literal. People get so mad at me, not 388 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: at us, I should say. But now those were the 389 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: odds as of December ninth, by the way, so about 390 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: ten days ago. This is the projected lineup. Again, we 391 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: are assuming, just for this exercise, folks, that taoskar her 392 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: now is not part of the team, and they don't 393 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: bring anybody else in that's not already in the Dodgers system. 394 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 2: So today you have to look Clint at the competition, right, 395 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: so you have there's nobody in the nl West, in 396 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 2: my opinion, other than the Padres, that really have a 397 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: shot at really giving the Dodgers a fight. In the division. 398 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: I think we've said this for the last ten years, 399 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: and the Padres scared me the most last last season. 400 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: And again people don't let me forget that what I 401 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 2: said on High Heat either. But I mean, if you 402 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: talk to Dave Roberts, he felt the same way. Everybody 403 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: was nervous about the Padres. 404 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: Right. 405 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: I said, if the Dodgers get out of this DS 406 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: against the Padres, they go to the World Series. And 407 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: I think I proved the point on that. So back 408 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: to back is incredibly difficult to do. Right, We've seen 409 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 2: that the last team that went back to back the Yankees, 410 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: right when they went back to back and actually won. 411 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: It is what I is what I'm talking about. So 412 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: it is very difficult to go back to back. But 413 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: look at the competition. Why tell me why the Dodgers 414 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: won't go back to the World Series. 415 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: Well, I mean back to the World Series. You got 416 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: to look at what the New York Mets are doing. 417 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: You got to look at what other teams around the league. 418 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: The Phillies really really want to get back to a 419 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: World Series. They've been very, very close. They are loaded 420 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: with some talent they're trying to still build out that 421 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: roster a little bit more. We're talking specifically division and 422 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: the NL West, and we'll really do a deep dive 423 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: later on this offseason about where the NL West stands 424 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: and the Dodgers' chances of getting that. Was it a 425 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: twelfth division in thirteen years, whatever that number is. The 426 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: Giants making some moves adding Willie Domas. I think the 427 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: game changer really could be if they do find a 428 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: way to add Corbyn Burns, the Giants are going to 429 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: be right up there. 430 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: I think, you know, at least in the division. 431 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: As considered favorites alongside the Dodgers. I don't know that 432 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: that's enough to get them to a World Series. But 433 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: Diamondbacks were supposed to be good, So there's like a 434 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: lot of there's a lot of pieces, a lot of 435 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: competition in the division that could derail or help the Dodgers. 436 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: Like Dino Eatable told us a couple of weeks ago, 437 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: it's like having to fight for that division to the 438 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: final day's final weeks really helped them in the in 439 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: the postseason and up to and through a World Series. 440 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,239 Speaker 1: So I like to where where the competition lies. But 441 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: still I look at this lineup, this projected lineup as 442 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: of right now, what is it, December nineteenth, Happy birthday 443 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: to my niece. 444 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: They are missing at taoscar Hernandez. 445 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: There they're missing. But I still don't see anybody in 446 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: the in the division that can maybe maybe the Padres. 447 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: I still think, again, you win the division. You know, 448 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: it's also it's a it's a short offseason. Remember that 449 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: they played the final game, but so do the Yankees. 450 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: But I think the Yankees, you know what, we don't talk. 451 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: About them and they start earlier. 452 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah they do, But I don't know. I just 453 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: I don't know until until somebody takes them over in 454 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: the division as a as a perennial. There's no reason 455 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: to me. I mean, think about the amount of flipping 456 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 2: injuries this team had last year and they still won 457 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: the World Series. I have to think. I have to 458 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: think that they're not going to have the same amount 459 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 2: of injuries to keep players, particularly their starting rotation, as 460 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 2: they did last year. 461 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's gonna be a big thing. We do have. 462 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: We do have a super chat before we do talk 463 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: about the pitching side of it. Francisco Fortnite one super chat. 464 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: Thank you very much Francisco for supporting the show. So 465 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: the perfect in that perfect world, Canforto and papayas platooned 466 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: in left field, Taoe playing right field? Dodgers, don't be 467 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: scrooges here at Christmas time, bring Tayo home. I love 468 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: that one, and a lot of people in the chat 469 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: definitely worried about the outfield situation. I saw Sarah Morris 470 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: bringing up the fact that the outfield right now, you 471 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: look at those names and I'm not going to throw 472 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: the graphic back up, but you look at those names 473 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: still leave in just that little bit to be desired. 474 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: Rotation wise, though, in the postseason, what you can care 475 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: about is what you have in your one, two, three starters. 476 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, they got four starters. 477 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: If everybody's healthy and everybody's right, because don't forget, they 478 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: did add this fellow by the name of Blake Snell. 479 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: So you look at the starting rotation options. 480 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 3: I really like where they're at right here. How do 481 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: you feel about it? 482 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: I feel really good about it too. I did say 483 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: prior to the Snell signing, I said, we really needed 484 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: to get another left hand or I didn't know if 485 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 2: it was going to be Snell. I didn't know if 486 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: it was going to be Max Freed. I love the 487 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: Snell signing. I didn't like playing against him. I'm glad 488 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: that he's like one of those dudes that you're like 489 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: sight T's on your team, but you're not a huge 490 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: fan of he's on the opposition. And I like the 491 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 2: deal that he got versus paying, you know, to eighteen 492 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: for a really long eight year deal to a starting pitcher, 493 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: because I think an eight year deal for a starter 494 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: that's not Yamamoto is a long time, right, I mean, 495 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 2: it's a long time for Max Freed to be under 496 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: contract with the Yankees. So I like our starting rotation, 497 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: I like our bullpen, and I like our lineup. Do 498 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: I think they need Taoscar, Yes, I do. 499 00:22:59,680 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: I do. 500 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: I do think that they need Taoscar Hernandez in that 501 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: in that lineup and in right in right field, And 502 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: I do. I do believe it will it will get done. 503 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 504 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: If we're talking about an area where there's the most 505 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: obvious need, yeah, it's it's the outfield, is Taskar Hernandez, 506 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: and then behind that, I'm less less excited about the bullpen. 507 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: I think it's just one more guy. 508 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: And again noticeably omitted from this list, is Bruce dark 509 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: Rout or all I should have put him on there 510 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: because he is on the team. He's just not going 511 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: to be back until maybe All Star break time. You're 512 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: really hoping the Dodgers do that thing, Andrew Freeman does 513 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: that thing that he does so well, find you know, 514 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: strike lightning, whatever, lightning strikes twice, lightning at a bottle, whatever. 515 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: Giovanni Diegos can be a pretty intriguing. 516 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: Weapon to see go through. 517 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: You know this the Dodgers pitching clinic with Mark Pryor 518 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: uh Connor mcginnison company. But you're also here looking at 519 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: this list. You're you're hoping that that you know, Bonda 520 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: does regress. You're hoping that Phillips, uh, you know, kind 521 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: of had a little bit of up and down. 522 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 523 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 1: You're also hoping Ben Casparius is in that mix Edgardo Henriquez. 524 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: I know I saw some people upset in the. 525 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Chat about Michael Grove being on this list, but he's 526 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: going to be an option. And and when Grover is right, 527 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: and when he's got the hook in the fastball, you know, 528 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: working for him, he's you know, he can be lights out. 529 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: He just gives up a lot of runs. When he 530 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: gives up runs, he gives him up in bunches and 531 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: and it ruins the e ra A nothing worse than 532 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: being a reliever at the major league level. 533 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: But throw up the throw up the starting picture graphic again. 534 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: Because Tom Alper is saying that Snells are only non 535 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: injured pitcher, that's not true. Choheo Tani is injured a 536 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 2: little bit, but it's like he's just because he had 537 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 2: to have the surgery. He's going to be fine. Ya, 538 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 2: Momoto's not injured. Glasnow's going to be fine. Gonsolin's fine. 539 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: May we'll see, I mean. 540 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I understand. 541 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: You know who, what's his name? Brandon Gomes addressed this 542 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: at the Winter meetings as well. As of right now, 543 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: everybody is trending. 544 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: In the right direction. 545 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: Tyler Glasnow is now throwing a baseball and as they 546 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: don't expect it, don't anticipate any issues as he continues 547 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: his build up. Tony Gonsolin probably could have thrown pitch 548 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: for this team in September if they were really desperate. 549 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: But still, these are guys. Gonsolin may coming back from injuries. 550 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: Yamamoto had the shoulder issue you know into uh, you know. 551 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 3: Through the middle part of the season. 552 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: Glass Now didn't finish the season, you know, with this team, 553 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: So there are some question Mark Kershaw technically not on 554 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: the team, but we know he's gonna be around. He's 555 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: somebody coming off of you know, foot and knee surgery. 556 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's imperfect, but you still feel pretty confident 557 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: knowing that this team's gonna find a way to win 558 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: ninety five to one hundred games because they're just that good. 559 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: They always find a way. You just got to get 560 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: to the you know, get to the dance, get to 561 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: the tournament. 562 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they and they do every year. And that's 563 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: why I'm not I'm not concerned about it. Let's throw 564 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 2: up the super chat from Christopher Navarrow. I appreciate you, Christopher, 565 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: thank you so much. Merry Christmas, Alana and Nostra dumbass 566 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: love the show. All I want for Christmas is Tao 567 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: and Roki Sasaki? Is that greedy? Come on, Santa, I 568 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: don't know that. Yeah, I mean that would be awesome. 569 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: I mean again, I do believe that Sasaki is unbelievably affordable. Yeah, sure, 570 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: I'll take. 571 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: The waiting on that. We got about. 572 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: Three weeks until we kind of figure out where that 573 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: ends up. I think we start to see that market 574 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 1: uh sort of uh, you know, develop or not. I mean, 575 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: the market's there, but we start to see those rumors 576 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: heat up into the first. 577 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 3: Of the year. 578 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: But so let's let's answer the question though, like are 579 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: the Dodgers good enough to win the World Series? 580 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 3: Right now? 581 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: Knowing that yes, it doesn't matter how much talent you have. 582 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: It's about the heart, it's about having those dogs. And 583 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: I agree with and that's all. 584 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: All I all I look to Based, all I look 585 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: to Clint to answer that question is look at what 586 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 2: happened last year. That's it. That's all I need to know. 587 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: That's fair, that's all I need to know. Like it 588 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: they they had every single thing go wrong for them. 589 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 2: I realize they have a big pair of blah blah blah, 590 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: but they had all they had so many things going 591 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: wrong for them, and they won the freaking World Series. 592 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 2: So yes, they do have enough. 593 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: Oh man, Well you know what, I agree? I agree, 594 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: I like it. 595 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I feel a lot better about one thing. Get in Tao, 596 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: where where we see Will Smith in the lineup that 597 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: that's the only thing I want to see. Get Taoscar 598 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: in there. Get James Outman out of there, and then 599 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: I'll feel better. That's not a dig against Outman. I 600 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: just want to point out that. 601 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: Oscar Fans is a better player than James Outman is. 602 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 2: Right now, that's fine. 603 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: Breaking it's fine breaking news. 604 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: I mean you're not saying anything that nobody else is thinking. 605 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: All right, So that's that. Let's get to last licks, 606 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 2: all right. Appreciate you guys letting me talk about the 607 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: pups that need homes. This is Liilah. She's a beautiful 608 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: five year old German Shepherd mix. This dog is per affection. 609 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: When I tell you perfection, I mean perfection. She is 610 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 2: wonderful with other dogs. She is vaccinated, she is healthy, 611 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: she is micro trip, she is microchip, she is housebroken, 612 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 2: she is great on a leash. She's a sweetheart, and 613 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 2: she needs a home. She's currently located in Valencia, California, 614 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: so in southern California. Please reach out if you're interested 615 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: in adopting this beauty. We appreciate it very very much. 616 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 2: How about this, Clint. I don't know if you saw 617 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: this earlier, but this is one of the funnier bumper 618 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 2: stickers that I've ever seen. And unless you're a fan 619 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: of one of these two teams, or really a fan 620 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: of baseball, you may not understand what this means. But 621 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: I know our viewers and our listeners understand. Bases loaded 622 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: top of the fifth, LA is down zero to nothing 623 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: or five to nothing rather, and then the stuff hits 624 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: the fan and it all worked out for Los Angeles. 625 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: I love this. Who so thank you Ray for posting this. 626 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: I need this bumper sticker. 627 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: I yeah, that is pretty good. 628 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: No, actually I would say that's that's pretty classless, but no, 629 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: that is really good, right, And you know I love 630 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: that the five Nothing like that little score bug. We 631 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: see it on the internet all the time, people throwing 632 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: back to the Atlanta Patriots super bowld or twenty seven 633 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: to three, Yeah, three to one with Lebron and company. 634 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: And as I think the Cavaliers, I'm not a big 635 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: time I don't pay I pay way too much attention 636 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: to baseball, and that's about it, so I forget all 637 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: of them. 638 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: But that's a good one. 639 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: If you're looking for a last minute stocking stuff, well 640 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: you probably waited too late because. 641 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 3: You're not going to get that shift you in time. 642 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 3: But that is a phenomenal, phenomenal bumper stick. 643 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: Anybody can find that and send it to me, I 644 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: appreciate it. I'll pay you for it. I'd appreciate that 645 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: people here in New England would love that because they 646 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 2: all hate the Yankees anyway, so that that would work 647 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: out well because I live I live close to Boston. 648 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: So all right, what's coming up on All Dodgers with 649 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: Clint Facias tonight? 650 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, more Dodgers talk really really hope and got 651 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: our fingers crossed for at Sanker Hernandez sighting and assigning 652 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: or some sort of move. I don't know that anything 653 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: special happens, but we got some stuff to talk about. 654 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 3: Chat will be active as. 655 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: It always is, so Tube in tonight, six pm Pacific time, 656 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: All Dodgers with Clint Piscias that is me, give the 657 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: channel a subscribe, Give this channel subscribe, all that kind 658 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. But appreciate you, guys, Tube and in today. 659 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: It's been a fun show, all right. 660 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for being here, guys. We always appreciate you, 661 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for watching, thanks for listening, Like subscribe and Clint 662 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: and I are back with the fresh new show on Monday. 663 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: Hopefully we do have some Telly Oscar News. We'll see 664 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: you then go Dodgers. 665 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: Okay, bye, thanks,