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Speaker 1: What is up? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Texans All Access from the Monday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John.

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Speaker 2: Harris, Football Hoinals sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. So

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Speaker 2: glad to be with you on this evening's show as

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Speaker 2: we get ready for a trip to Seattle, just the

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Speaker 2: third one in Texans history to take on the four

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Speaker 2: and two Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: Monday night football. Lots going on.

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Speaker 2: It will kick off nine o'clock Central, seven o'clock if

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Speaker 2: you happen to be out in Seattle going to the game.

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Speaker 1: So body clock's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: All screwed up and all that kind of stuff, But

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Speaker 2: can't play and gotta go do it. Gotta go beat

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, need a big win to get the three

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Speaker 2: and three before coming home for three straight home games.

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Speaker 2: Time to go make a statement. So we got a

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Speaker 2: lot of people on the show this evening. A ton

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Speaker 2: British Brooks is gonna join us a little later. Grid

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Speaker 2: iron legend in former Texans Steve McKinney is gonna join

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Speaker 2: us to talk about the of being a good iron

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Speaker 2: legend for the Kinners Texas Bowl. He and a number

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Speaker 2: of others voted in just recently, so we ste mckinning

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Speaker 2: on the show. We're also gonna have Steve Rabel play

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Speaker 2: by play man, longtime play by playman of the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Mark sat down with him, so we have little men

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Speaker 2: behind the mic. So a little later in the show,

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Speaker 2: but kickoff.

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Speaker 1: A Wednesday's show. As always, the.

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Speaker 2: Man himself, Executive vice president general manager of your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 2: Nick Casario, sat down with Mark and myself.

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Speaker 1: Right here joining us now.

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Speaker 3: It's studio executive vice president and general manager Nick Cassio.

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Speaker 1: Back from the bye. Nick has a going fella.

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Speaker 4: It's good to be here, all right.

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Speaker 3: So the buye is over, back into a work week.

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Speaker 3: What was it like for the organization having a few

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Speaker 3: days off, and I know, not everybody gets the entire

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Speaker 3: reh having injuries and that kind of thing too.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, it's a productive week, it's just not as

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Speaker 5: fast paced and you don't have anything at the end

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Speaker 5: of the week. There, So we practiced Wednesday whatever that was,

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Speaker 5: or had you know, workday there and a Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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Speaker 5: I mean, the players are kind of on their own.

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Speaker 5: Had some players out of rehab and working themselves back

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Speaker 5: from injury. So there was a treatment period from like

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Speaker 5: nine to noon Thursday, Friday, and then Saturday Sunday, everybody

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Speaker 5: players back in on Monday just to kind of reindoctrinate

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Speaker 5: to football walk through start the preparation for Seattle. Understanding,

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Speaker 5: we still have an extra day here this week with

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Speaker 5: the Monday night game. So for the most part, it

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Speaker 5: extra days maybe a little more flexibility.

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Speaker 2: Mark and I talk about this all the time. We

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Speaker 2: very much enjoy the Sunday being able to just send

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Speaker 2: on the couch. But there's that moment of wait. You

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Speaker 2: just have like this quick two second thought of I

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Speaker 2: should be somewhere because your body is so used to

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Speaker 2: in a fall being at a football stadium, you kind

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: We were busy over the weekend, so girls are very

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Speaker 5: busy involved in a number of different things. So I

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Speaker 5: didn't feel that way because I was moving, I was

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Speaker 5: doing something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's got to be special to be able

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Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 6: Though.

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Speaker 5: Right now, it's awesome it was great. I had a

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Speaker 5: chance to see one of my best friends as well

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Speaker 5: because our daughters. Their teams actually happened to play one

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Speaker 5: things really work themselves out.

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Speaker 1: That's good, good box stuff.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll get into the Seattle scouting report in

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Speaker 3: just a few moments here, But as far as the

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Speaker 3: things certainly headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: What else are you looking for here?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the big thing is continue to build on the

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Speaker 5: things that we've done well, kind of taken inventor where

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Speaker 5: had some gaps. Is that a personnel related thing is

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Speaker 5: big picture. We try to keep the focus on us

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Speaker 5: regardless of who the opponent is understanding, there's going to

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Speaker 5: where we are done some good things in all three phases.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully we can continue to build on some of those areas.

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Speaker 2: Nick, this trip, I know for you guys when you

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Speaker 2: were at the Patriots going all the way to Seattle,

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Speaker 2: I mean that that was a hell of a trip.

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Speaker 1: It's not an easy trip from here to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Give Seattle such a great home field advantage just from

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Speaker 1: How difficult is a trip up to Seattle?

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Speaker 2: And what are kind of the keys of kind of

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a timey element involved, and we actually are

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Speaker 5: Sometimes when you're traveling long distances, there's a quick turnaround.

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Speaker 5: So the big thing for the players is just staying

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Speaker 3: It's strange because some years you won't go west at all,

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Speaker 3: others you might. And for the Seattle Seahawks themselves, they

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Speaker 1: It's different for every team.

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Speaker 5: For sure, and you have to figure out what works best.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it's go early, sometimes a day or two early.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes if you match up you're playing another game on

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Speaker 5: just trying to figure out what gives the players the

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Speaker 2: It early by I know there's nothing you really can

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Speaker 2: do about it, Nick, but having an early buy, do

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Speaker 2: you wish in some ways you could have just kept

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Speaker 2: going with some of the offensive confidence and especially that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't control when the buy is to your point,

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Speaker 5: So I think big thing is just practicing well, going

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Speaker 3: Nick, there's so much talk around the league, outside the

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Speaker 1: You got to weigh all that out as these opportunities

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 5: For sure, some of the players that are going to

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Speaker 5: help us are in the building. They're just in a

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Speaker 5: different category on the reserve list, and we've had some

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Speaker 4: I would say when you look across.

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Speaker 5: The league, the reality is if trades that take place

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Speaker 5: is probably to improve or upgrade or overall depth, are

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Speaker 5: you really trading for an impact player? It's probably hard

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Speaker 5: this time of year. Then there's some things that have

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Speaker 5: to match up from a contractual standpoint. There's always opportunities

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Speaker 5: what's the right mechanism, what's the right fit. And to

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Speaker 5: your point, we have some players that we feel are

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Speaker 5: going to be able to help our team that haven't

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Speaker 5: played for us at this point.

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Speaker 1: If and when teams call you to inquire about certain players.

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Speaker 1: What is that like?

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Speaker 3: What can you tell us about what those conversations are?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 1: Hey, so it's so available for what what do you

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Speaker 4: It's very simple.

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Speaker 5: It's just teams look at where they are, where they

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Speaker 5: we're looking for X, Y and z. Maybe you have

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Speaker 5: a position or player that matches up. Then is there

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Speaker 5: a player, what's your replacement, what's the opportunity cost? So

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Speaker 5: that's kind of a calculus.

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Speaker 1: It's fair.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think what we've found, what I've found,

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Speaker 5: it's pretty straightforward. Like nobody is trying to Hey, is

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Speaker 5: where we are? What are you looking for? Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know we might have something. Take a look at

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Speaker 5: these three or four players. Doesn't mean that there's a

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Speaker 1: So is there a name that pops up on your phone?

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Speaker 1: You're like, I'm not talking.

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Speaker 4: To this guy that doesn't happen. We'll talk to anybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you will.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm contractually obligated to ask what the rookie, so I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna ask it this way. Through five games and now

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Speaker 2: gotten their proverbial feet wet, we've seen some growth. We've

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Speaker 2: seen Jayden and Jalen both get in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: What he obviously has done some good things and the

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from your rookie class in the

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Speaker 2: growth that they've made, Nick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've taken advantage of their opportunities. And the big

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Speaker 5: thing is it's still football. Just go out there and

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Speaker 5: just the big thing for younger players or rookie players

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Speaker 5: especially is your weekly process and your routine understanding from

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Speaker 5: Sunday to Sunday. You have to figure out what works best,

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Speaker 5: what makes the most sense, and stay on track stand schedule.

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Speaker 4: So take care of.

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Speaker 5: Your body, whether you have a stretching routine, your lifting routine, nutrition,

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Speaker 5: your rest, all those things are important. You have to

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Speaker 5: figure out what works and then what does your weekly

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Speaker 5: preparation look like relatives the opponents. Some guys like to

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Speaker 5: their iPad. Some players would rather be in the film room.

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Speaker 5: So that's the big thing. For younger players, they played

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Speaker 5: five games. We've had three preseason games, so you're talking

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Speaker 5: about eight games of NFL football including training camp. So

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Speaker 5: at this point you're no longer a rookie. You have

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Speaker 5: a certain level of experience. Then it's just about your

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, the players are more cognizant, and typically what you'll

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Speaker 2: Okay, you've had plenty of time to prepare for the

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Speaker 5: Linebacker position they kind of turned over, but they kind

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Speaker 5: Six four, two hundred and twenty pounds, runs four to

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: So well constructed football team. They're four and two.

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Speaker 4: So certainly present a lot of challenges.

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Speaker 5: Then when you combine that with the environment, so it's

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Speaker 3: So is this system in line with Kubiak Shanahan Kubiak

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Speaker 3: Shanahan the whole lineage Nick or is young Kubiak going

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Speaker 1: But how similar is?

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Speaker 5: Clint's done a good job. He did a good job

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we've talked about the history of this system,

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Speaker 6: All the way back.

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Speaker 2: It seems we talked about this as Actually as you

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Speaker 5: I think he's completed seventy percent of his passes, doing

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's a combination of coaching and players

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Speaker 2: As we were talking about Sam and then Kubiak, I.

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Speaker 2: It feels like Sam's skills really fit with Kubiak. And

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Speaker 5: No, it's critically important, and sometimes it takes a little

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Speaker 5: bit more time relative to others. And the more stability

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Speaker 5: and continuity you have, it's a lot easier than each year.

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Speaker 5: You're kind of building on some of the things that

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Speaker 5: you've done previous years, as opposed to going back and

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Speaker 5: started starting from scratch and implementing a new system or

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Speaker 5: a new offense.

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Speaker 3: Some of the playmaking we've seen here over the last

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Speaker 3: few years. I think about X and the playoff game.

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Speaker 3: I think about some of the catches Nico has made.

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Speaker 3: You coached receivers too, Nick, How important is it for

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Speaker 3: a receiver to adjust when things break down and just

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Speaker 3: get open? Is it that simple? Sometimes hey, go to

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Speaker 3: an open spot where he can find you.

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Speaker 4: No, that's absolutely the case.

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Speaker 5: And you tried as best you can in practice simulate

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Speaker 5: the scramble drill, and there is a strategy involved when

458
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Speaker 5: the quarterback is on the move, you want to make

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Speaker 5: sure you have somebody, whether it's in front for the

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Speaker 5: short throw, maybe that another player is a little bit

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Speaker 5: deeper and behind the defense. So you're just trying to

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Speaker 5: create spacing and displacement, and you're seeing more mobile quarterbacks,

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Speaker 5: more agile quarterbacks that can kind of get out of

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Speaker 5: trouble and keep plays a live longer. So in turn,

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Speaker 5: as a receiver, you want to make sure whatever or

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Speaker 5: a skill player, you want to make sure that you're

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Speaker 5: available for the quarterback. And then on the other side

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Speaker 5: of the ball, it forces you to plaster and match

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Speaker 5: routes and not lose sight of the receiver because of

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Speaker 5: the ability to quarterback to make some loose plays.

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Speaker 2: Guys, Samstar on the ball to a lot Burn Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: deep ball eight for one sixty two leads league in

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Speaker 2: receiving as Jaysn Jackson Smith and Jigba. When he was

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Speaker 2: coming out, I means last year you Ohio State, I

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Speaker 2: think you played maybe a game.

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Speaker 1: If if that.

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Speaker 2: But then he gets himself healthy is great testing and

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Speaker 2: one of the things that stood out to me was

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Speaker 2: the three con he did, like a three nine to five.

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Speaker 2: You're like whoa change the direction. Okay, let's see see

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Speaker 2: that manifest itself in his route running. And you watching

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Speaker 2: run routes, you're like, oh, yeah, it's there.

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Speaker 1: What have you seen? Wich asn Nick.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a really good player.

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Speaker 5: And even going back to Ohio State to your point,

486
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Speaker 5: he got injured the first week of that year, first

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Speaker 5: or second week, tried to play, and then he was

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Speaker 5: essentially out for the duration of that season. But then

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Speaker 5: you go back to the previous year whatever it was.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he had over three hundred yards in a

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Speaker 5: Rose Bowl game against Utah, So you're looking going, bloy,

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Speaker 5: this guy's a pretty good football player. Now fast forward

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Speaker 5: to our league, and he leads the league in receiving.

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Speaker 5: He's got really good size, he's got really good hand

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Speaker 5: eye coordination. He's a very fluid mover, and he's got

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Speaker 5: really good short space quickness, so he can stop and

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Speaker 5: start and create separation and he's gotten behind the defense.

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Speaker 5: I mean, whatever his time speed is, it doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 5: He plays fast, and he plays with good route tempo,

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Speaker 5: and he caught a hundred passes last year and he's

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Speaker 5: kind of built on some of the things that he

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Speaker 5: did and in the twenty four season.

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Speaker 3: Nick, when you evaluate other teams and how they're doing

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Speaker 3: this early in the season, I think people from the

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Speaker 3: outside looking in get carried away with record and try

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Speaker 3: to find these trends. But it's really tough because the

507
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Speaker 3: competition varies team to team.

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Speaker 1: How do you look at it?

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Speaker 4: No, we've talked about this.

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Speaker 5: Our league is as competitive as any league in the world,

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Speaker 5: and you see that in a week to week basis.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason that so many games go down to

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Speaker 5: the wire and are won or loss in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: So the big thing from from your team perspective, you

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Speaker 5: want to make sure that you have an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: put your team in a position to win in a

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Speaker 5: fourth quarter because ultimately it's going to come down to

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Speaker 5: a handful of winning plays. And we've seen that in

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Speaker 5: our situation. And you look around the league to your

520
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Speaker 5: point mark and that's really been the case. So keep

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Speaker 5: yourself afloat and everybody's got good players. There a lot

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Speaker 5: of good coaches. Can you do some things on the

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Speaker 5: margins or sort of separate yourself and you just got

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Speaker 5: to take it week to week and at the end

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Speaker 5: of the year kind of look up and then see

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Speaker 5: where you.

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Speaker 2: Are, Nick, I know that you know you'll make a

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Speaker 2: trip to see college players in college games and that

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Speaker 2: throughout the year. Now that we've getten, basically second half

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Speaker 2: the college season, and there are probably some guys that

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Speaker 2: may be popping up that are like, oh, man, that

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Speaker 2: guy's pretty good, or he transferred from somewhere, but man,

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Speaker 2: we might need to go get a look at this guy.

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Speaker 2: You change kind of your plan a little bit because

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Speaker 2: you want to, Hey, I want to make sure we

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Speaker 2: get to see this guy.

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Speaker 1: In person, or we see these guys in person.

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Speaker 2: You kind of change the plan, not change a plan,

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Speaker 2: but just the plan so that you make sure you

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Speaker 2: see some of those those guys that may have transferred

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Speaker 2: or maybe younger guys to get eyes on.

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Speaker 4: For sure, just as needed. So the information comes into

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Speaker 4: a database.

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Speaker 5: There's a player that pops up, maybe he didn't have

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Speaker 5: a lot of tape in twenty four and he has

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Speaker 5: a bigger role and potentially in twenty five, and maybe

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Speaker 5: he's potentially going to be in the draft. So all right,

548
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Speaker 5: if there's an opportunity to see that player, to get

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Speaker 5: more of an exposure to understand, we're gonna have opportunities

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Speaker 5: down the road, whether it's in January or an All

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Speaker 5: Star game or.

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Speaker 4: At the scouting combine. So let's say it's case by case.

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Speaker 5: From a process standpoint, that process is pretty consistent, but

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Speaker 5: if a player does pop up, then you might alter

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Speaker 5: kind of your course of action what you're gonna do

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Speaker 5: that week.

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Speaker 3: All right, Nick, I have a special announcement here, and

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Speaker 3: this is good because it's one did I football. Pizza

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Speaker 3: Hut is actually putting their fifty percent discount in play

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Speaker 3: on Monday for the game, So Nick, you can load

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Speaker 3: up on those carbs that I know is so important

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: I'll bring one on the plane for you.

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Speaker 4: Then ask me what my favorite pizza is.

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Speaker 1: What your favorite topping would be?

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, sausage, pepperoni, anything else, mushrooms, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, what do you know?

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Speaker 5: So when we were younger, we actually had a place,

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Speaker 5: sorry Pizza Hut, but there was a kid called Master

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Speaker 5: Pizza and we got pizza every Friday night. So tipical

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Speaker 5: I was a mushroom fan. I like mushrooms, so okay,

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Speaker 5: mushroom would be my topic of choice.

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Speaker 1: I was expecting meat or something. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: this is good.

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Speaker 2: I kind of expected mushrooms. So I'll ask what meat

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Speaker 2: would you put on pizzas? You gotta be pepperoni sausage

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Speaker 2: or do you not even do that?

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan. I'm either cheese.

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Speaker 1: Your pizza have crusts, It just cheese.

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Speaker 4: I like thin crust.

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Speaker 1: Cheese. So the detroitgo Okay, Okay, thanks a lot, Nick,

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Speaker 1: good luck this.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm hungry, very very hung All right, it's time

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Speaker 2: to talk about this game against the Seattle Seahawks, and

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Speaker 2: Sam Donald's gonna do something on Monday night against the

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Speaker 2: Texans That's only happened as Mark and I can kind

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Speaker 2: of recollect only two other times. I was surprised to

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Speaker 2: receive it two. But we'll talk about that next. Right

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Speaker 2: here in Texans all Aca, looking back to this Wednesday

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Speaker 2: insie of Texans All Access from the Hoday Texans Radio studio.

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Speaker 1: It's game week. Finally, oh finally it is here.

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Speaker 2: It was good to catch up with Nick Casario, John

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Speaker 2: Mark with you Mark. We asked them scouting report on

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Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. I spent my lunch watching the Seahawks against

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Speaker 2: the Jags again, kind of watch a lot of the

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Speaker 2: game on Sunday and kind of bits and pieces throughout

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Speaker 2: the week, but it's like, Okay, it's game week, so

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Speaker 2: I gotta check it out.

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Speaker 1: It's a good football team we're playing Monday night.

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Speaker 2: However, it's not the Patriots of Super Bowl years. It's

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Speaker 2: not the Bill's Chief Ravens. It's a really good football

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Speaker 2: team that's a lot like so I like us in

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Speaker 2: some sense. Defense, very aggressive, really good front. I think

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Speaker 2: our secondary healthy is better than their secondary healthy, but

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Speaker 2: their secondary isn't healthy. I think offensively, when they move

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Speaker 2: the pocket and give Donald some different looks, get him

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Speaker 2: out away from the fray a little bit. They do

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Speaker 2: some good things running the ball. They have moments. They've

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Speaker 2: got power guys, and Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharbonay. It's

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Speaker 2: a really evenly matched football game. With two evenly matched

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Speaker 2: football teams on Monday Night.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really fun.

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Speaker 3: It kind of reminds me in a way of the

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Speaker 3: Rams game, when you're going into a place on the

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Speaker 3: West Coast where you don't go very often. You're going

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Speaker 3: up against a good team on both sides of the football.

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Speaker 1: Here's a big difference.

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Speaker 3: They've adjusted to this new era of Kubiak and Darnald

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Speaker 3: very well because it was brand new, so the Texans

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Speaker 3: can have the alibi well Nick, sorry, Nick Cayley, new

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Speaker 3: offensive line relatively just different configuration and breaking in some

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Speaker 3: new guys and CJ. Stroud year three, new system all that.

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Speaker 3: But here comes Darnold who has spent time in similar systems,

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Speaker 3: if not the system. When you look at San Francisco

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Speaker 3: and then you look at Okay, there's some familiarity there

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Speaker 3: and there's some good weapons there, and the old line

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Speaker 3: has done a good enough job for him. So they've

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Speaker 3: adjusted very well. The Texans growing pains. But the difference,

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Speaker 3: the other difference is with that Rams game is that

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Speaker 3: now you kind of know who you are, and the

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Speaker 3: last couple of games you're able to stretch your legs,

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Speaker 3: hit your stride against teams that you could would should against,

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Speaker 3: but you did it in a very lopsided positive way.

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Speaker 3: And now you take your show on the road to

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Speaker 3: take another shot against a team of this ILK.

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Speaker 1: So let's see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: It's very similar to LA in the sense that the front,

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Speaker 2: you know, the defensive front for the Rams, it didn't

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Speaker 2: have you know Von Miller, you know, explosive edge rusher,

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett right kind of guy. Jerry Versus really really good,

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Speaker 2: but he's more a power guy. Byron Young probably a

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Speaker 2: little bit more of a power guy. He's got some speed,

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Speaker 2: there's no question. But I think Seattle's built that way.

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Speaker 2: I think Uo Suit and Boye Mafe are really good athletes,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know that they're the kind of guy

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Speaker 2: that can just the kind of guys that can just

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Speaker 2: go right around you. And there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: times where they move Letter Williams out to go rush

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Speaker 2: on a tackle. That's what they did against Jacksonville a

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Speaker 2: little bit. And Letter Williams at three hundred pounds or

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Speaker 2: whatever he is, it's kind of like JJ, kind of

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Speaker 2: like JJ. Watt is funny when you walked in before

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Speaker 2: this segment, you asked me what I was doing, and

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Speaker 2: somebody had posts the video somewhere on Twitter X about

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Speaker 2: JJ's twenty ten game when he's at Wisconsin against Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: They upset Ohio State was number one in the country

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Speaker 2: through out prior quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin upset them.

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Speaker 2: They ran back the opening kickoff and then from that

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00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: point on they dominate Ohio State.

661
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: They showed every highlight.

662
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: JJ lined up in every single spot you could on

663
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: the on defensive line. He made one sack from the

664
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: left defensive end. He had one TfL he lined up

665
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: over the center. He had another sack where he came

666
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: from the right defensive tackle spot. He had a sack

667
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: from the right defensive end spot. He was amazing that game.

668
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: And Leonard Williams is similar in that he can rush

669
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: from the inside. He didn't go outside and then rushed

670
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: against your tackle. He had one sack where he just

671
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: took walker little and literally walked him right back in.

672
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: To Trevor Lark. So big, he's so thick, and.

673
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: You got to handle that power. Yes, ouch, and he

674
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 2: can move. He's agile like JJ. That was the That

675
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: was the hard part. You start bracing for JJ's power

676
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: and then he just slippy or swim you and go inside.

677
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: And I think Leonard Williams is a lot of the

678
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: same things. Look, Leonard Williams is not the player JJ was,

679
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: but he's at a high level in the style of JJ.

680
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Wall because JJ pushed the three hundred when he played,

681
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: and as the rookie he still had that baby fat.

682
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: Can't call it because the pictures of JJ, when you

683
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: look at a picture of the pick six and the

684
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: playoff game. Very different body than he would eventually have.

685
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: He got a lot more chiseled.

686
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: As the guys. I was gonna say, the word Dowie

687
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: comes to mind. I mean it's strong. It's like country

688
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: strong or whatever.

689
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: All right, So when JJ was drafted, we were doing

690
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: a draft show, but you weren't part of the draft

691
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: show show.

692
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: It was not It was going to be a few

693
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: more years.

694
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: So I remember Meltzer, who's a huge, big ten guy,

695
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: saying this is a good pick because there.

696
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: Was some hey, why are you drafting Watt?

697
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: Because he needed the outside Russia and the Wade Phillips

698
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: system and all that.

699
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: What was your reaction when they drafted JJ? That was

700
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: the exact same reaction you.

701
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 2: My parents live in Wisconsin, and my parents any ties

702
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: to Wisconsin were always, you know, keeping her eyes on it,

703
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: and so my dad, every time I would kind of

704
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: talk to him, he's like, hey, you've seen his Wat guy,

705
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: And I'm like yeah. So my parents were all about, oh,

706
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: we want Watt to come to Houston.

707
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: My only thing was I didn't know how they were going.

708
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 2: To use him, because at Wisconsin they did they moved

709
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: him around a lot, and Connor Barber when was here,

710
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: Mario Williams was here, Wade was taking over.

711
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: So You're like, Okay, you're going to three to four.

712
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: He's got ability to rushing me outside, but they're gonna

713
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: playm an they inside. So I was kind of like,

714
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if is this the right fit? How

715
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: are they gonna do this? So that was it. But

716
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: from a player standpoint, I remember what happened. I was

717
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: I was doing. I actually was doing the national radio

718
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 2: broadcast that day, but for the local draft show, they

719
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: wanted to get my thoughts, and so I jumped on

720
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: and I said, I have no qualms with this pick whatsoever.

721
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm just curious how they're gonna fit them together. How

722
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: are they gonna fit all these pieces together? And Wade

723
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: Phillips did a fantastic job, in large part because you

724
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: really couldn't miss with him. You couldn't miss with J.

725
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 2: JJ lineup on the left defensive end, got it, JJ

726
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 2: lineup over the center, got it. JJ lineup in this

727
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: three technique, got it.

728
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 3: You think the college they let him roam around where

729
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: he thought he could be best used.

730
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: No, I think college they planned it. I don't think they.

731
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't think they him down here, you go over there.

732
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. That's the problem, right he could.

733
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can pick your spot, but what about the

734
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: guy who was going to be there and now he's

735
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: got to go somewhere else.

736
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. I can't remember

737
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: who we were playing.

738
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: This is like in this was fourteen or fifteen, and

739
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: we were playing and may have been the Jaguars.

740
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: We were playing.

741
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Somebody at home and they had a banged up tackle,

742
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: and I think it was the Jaguars because they put

743
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: in a backup tackle and the Texas defense broke the

744
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: huddle and JJ literally looked and sprinted out to the

745
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: spot where that tackle was. And I remember Whitney merciless

746
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: looking at the sideline like he kind of pointed like wait,

747
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: like he took my spot, Like he took my spot

748
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: like and I saw somebody just kind of wave over

749
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: and Whitney went to the other side. And I think

750
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: Whitney ended up getting a sack eventually on that particular

751
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: guy you went against. But I just thought it was

752
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 2: funny because JJ sprinted to that spot, and over the years,

753
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: in different miked ups and things you would hear. I

754
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: remember Vrabel on the sideline talking to DJ Reader and

755
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: I can't remember. I think may have been DJ Reader

756
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: and Benargort McKinney, and you could hear them and the

757
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: three of them having a conversation, and one of them said, well,

758
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: when JJ did this, I did this, And so Rabel's like, yes, yes, exactly.

759
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: If JJ does that, then you have to adapt. And

760
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: so I thought it was the genius of both Wade

761
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Phillips and Romeo Cornells, the fact they took JJ and

762
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: said you just go, just go, and we'll adapt. If

763
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: you jump into the gap, we'll make somebody, make sure

764
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: somebody's there in.

765
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 3: It sit interesting how JJ played with Clowney and Mario,

766
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: but only Mario for five games, right because Mario got

767
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: hurt after the Week five game or during the Week

768
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: five game in twenty eleven. Had Mario stayed healthy that year,

769
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: that's one of those what ifs in Texans history. What

770
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: would the whole thing look like? Because they were number

771
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: two in the league. Would they have been even better

772
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: with Mario? Probably because Mario was kind of thriving in

773
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: that Wade Phillips system himself, So that would have been

774
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: an interesting development.

775
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always think of Mario too in that same vein.

776
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: I remember being Buffalo in fifteen and we talk about

777
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: this all the time, communication between the front and the

778
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: linebacker's linebackers in the back and all everybody's all communicating,

779
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: and so linebacker was trying to get Mario's attention in Buffalo.

780
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: I'll never forget this, and Mario's kind of looking him like, eh,

781
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: you know you're speaking Spanish. I speak English. You had

782
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: kind of throw his hands up whatever, and Mario would rush,

783
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: and I realized the linebacker kept getting mad.

784
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: Mario was supposed to be dropping into coverage, oh the lockpacker,

785
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: which is like yo.

786
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: And I saw him one time like go like this

787
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: with his thumb over his shoulder, like you're supposed to

788
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: be back there, and Mario was just like man.

789
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: He correct Ryan Bills. Yes, he's just gonna rush.

790
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 2: So it was always interesting from that speaking of what ifs,

791
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: and speaking of our recent opponent, is a top five

792
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: what if for this organization? What if they don't blow

793
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: the lead to the sel Seahawks in twenty thirteen, is

794
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: that one of the top five what ifs.

795
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: I've thought about that and it's funny how you know,

796
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: leave it to you and I to talk about this game.

797
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 3: The Ivant listen to every show, so maybe it's been

798
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: brought up. But when you look at the history of

799
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: this particular series, and I won't call it a rivalry

800
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: because it's not, but it's a series. You beat them

801
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: at nine here by the way, But obviously we all

802
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: know what happened in twenty thirteen, which was a return

803
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: home visit. We went over this last week. Why you

804
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: weren't going to Seattle in twenty thirteen?

805
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Why was that?

806
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Because you had too many West Coast games already. The

807
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: league just decided to put it in Houston and then

808
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: double up. Not double up, because just twenty seventeen we

809
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: go up there. Yeah, twenty one, they're here, and you

810
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: just keep going on and now it's twenty five and

811
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: we're up there. But that twenty thirteen game, Johnny, look,

812
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: we all know the wheels were starting to get wobbly.

813
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: The lug nuts were loose, right, they had already seen

814
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: pick sixes. You threw a pick six in the Titans

815
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 3: game but won in overtime the week before against the Chargers.

816
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 3: Not a pick six, but a pick in your own

817
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: end that they scored off of on the next player

818
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: or two against the Ravens of pick six. That was

819
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: week three, So you're coming home week four to face Seattle,

820
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: and that was the big pick six that defines the

821
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: era of Richard Sherman running it back when that just

822
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: tied the game, right, true, that just tied the tide

823
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 3: because you were up a touchdown. Russell Wilson had this

824
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 3: incredible drive. This is peak performance Russell Wilson at twenty thirteen.

825
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: He looked like Doug Flutie and Fran Target to the

826
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 3: Michael Vick all in one body, running around, scrambling, making plays.

827
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: He hadn't done anything all game, basically.

828
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: Got him within a touchdown and then I'll never forget

829
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: Andre on the broadcast saying something like, Matt Shob's got

830
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: to show you what he's all about. Right here, He's

831
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: got to step up and take this ball down field

832
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: and score at least get a two score lead back

833
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: Ye up only one score, and the Texans had up

834
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 3: until that point played very well, but they allowed the touchdown.

835
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,439
Speaker 3: Now they're up seven driving and Shob throws the pick

836
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: six to Richard Sherman with the pressure by Cam Chancellor.

837
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: We all know the play.

838
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: It was intended for Owen Daniels, but a wobbler Sherman

839
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: goes to the house, it's tied, and the Texans are

840
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: never the same after that. That is the game they

841
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 3: lost in overtime, and they made numerous stops, had their chance.

842
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't know about numerous, but whatever, they had their chances.

843
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you went to overtime, you had a chance

844
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: to win the game. They couldn't do it, And I

845
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: just remember feeling so deflated after that one. That is

846
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: certainly a top three, top five loss at the outside

847
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 3: in the history of this franchise. In fact, I'll put

848
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: it top three for sure. I think it'll be hard

849
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: for me to ever eclipse the pain non playoff losses

850
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: of what you saw against Seattle, Van Vince Young, thirty

851
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: nine yard running, over time and Rosencopter. Those three are

852
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: the top three losses in Texans history.

853
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: Just the way you.

854
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 3: Felt after the game or as it happened, nothing like

855
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 3: it now. Playoffs are playoffs, a right twenty four to

856
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: nothing lead. We all know that, et cetera. That's so painful.

857
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: I think I've kind of blocked it out and formed

858
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: this enamel around my.

859
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: Built up around now.

860
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, But anyway, that's interesting to bring that up.

861
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: This is an interesting series in that way. Russell Wilson

862
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: was here in twenty twenty one and looked good enough,

863
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: you'll win over the Texans. I think it was a

864
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: pretty competitive game actually in that David Well.

865
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 2: I remember was Kaymie hitting the sixty one yarder and

866
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: I remember staying right into the upright and that thing

867
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: made it by about three or four yards, and I was.

868
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Like, man, he hit a bomb, Like, oh man, sixty

869
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: one yarder.

870
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: I remember it being a beautiful day and the roof

871
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: was open and he hit that, and I thought, are

872
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 2: we gonna beat these guys?

873
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: And Seattle wasn't great in twenty twenty one. They were not.

874
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: They were not very good.

875
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: But in the second half, Russell Wilson did Russell Wilson things,

876
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: and we just couldn't hang with him, and they ended

877
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 2: up pulling away in the second half at that point.

878
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 2: But it that, you know, I use my benchmark for

879
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: what I'm about to say is always two thousand and

880
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: seven Michigan. Michigan brought everybody back for a national championship run.

881
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: The first game of the year they get knocked off

882
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: by this upstart apt Latch and State, and you thought,

883
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's terrible. Well, the next week they

884
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: played Oregon at home, and nobody realized how good Oregon was.

885
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: A quarterback named Dennis Dixon, one of the greatest what

886
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: if he stays healthy kind of guys, and he runs

887
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: all over him. But you could tell Michigan was flat,

888
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 2: and so it was like Oregon beat them twice. Well,

889
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 2: that twenty thirteen season, the Seahawks beat the Texas twice.

890
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: I don't think they were going to be able to

891
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: beat the forty nine ers out in San Francisco, but

892
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: thirty four to.

893
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Three on Sunday Night football, Oh that was brutal.

894
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: The very next week, yeah, I feel like in thirteen.

895
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: It happened on October thirteenth of twenty thirteen, So you

896
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: should have known at that point when Saint Louis came here,

897
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: the rams for people, for the young people. I remember

898
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 2: watching a game in the first quarter, going, they can't

899
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: lose this man. They're two and they're two and two now,

900
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: or they are two and another two and three at that

901
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: point sounds familiar. They can't lose this game. To Seattle,

902
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 2: not at home. Let Sinka happened, and then the Ram

903
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 2: ran them out of the building. I thought this is

904
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: going to be bad.

905
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, really really showed you that there was something different

906
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: about this team in a bad way. And I'll never

907
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 3: forget the feeling, because remember that they were coming off

908
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: twelve and four, and the feeling was, you have to

909
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: be of that nature again, something like eleven, twelve, thirteen

910
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 3: wins at the very least, right, you have to be

911
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: better than you were the year before, at least as good.

912
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: And they weren't clearly with that start, and you thought,

913
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 3: you can't accept a nine and seven, ten and six.

914
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: But you could have, Johnny, you could have taken a

915
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: step back in record, as long as you have a

916
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: winning record and find a way to weasel your way

917
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 3: into the playoffs somehow despite a bad start and pick

918
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 3: sixes or whatever. But at that point, I've talked about

919
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: lug nuts. The lug nuts were off, the wheels were off.

920
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: You were just going into the ditch. When they started

921
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: keinging against the Kansas City Chiefs. That felt like a

922
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: breadth of fresh air. Oh man, here we go. Yeah,

923
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: he threw a deep ball to Hot Gins. Oh my gosh.

924
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: You know, this quarterback's incredibly throwing the ball in a

925
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: way that we really haven't seen much of that style.

926
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: But he couldn't protect himself well enough. That was his

927
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 3: first year as a starter. We all know what happened

928
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: the following week. I mean, I don't want to relive

929
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 3: all this stuff, but when you talk about Seattle, this

930
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: stuff comes to mind, and you're gonna play them up

931
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: there another place where you have never won.

932
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: You've only been there twice. You know, it's not like

933
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: you have this thick history that it was like Indianapolis

934
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 2: or even the Ravens.

935
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I was getting to because we just

936
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: talked about this with the last game. It's weird you

937
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: have road game by road game, but you'll take it.

938
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 3: And you mentioned it. This is not the New England

939
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: Patriots of the teens and o's. This is not the

940
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Cults of the o's. This is not that kind of team.

941
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: But they are a good team and they can certainly

942
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: beat you, and you have to prove that you go

943
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: toe to toe and pull it out at the end.

944
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 2: One thing I don't know, this made me as we

945
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: were thinking about it, I pulled up the the twenty

946
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: thirteen schedule on Jesus GSIS.

947
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: That's the game information system. We just call it NFL Jesus.

948
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: And so I forget what it stands for. Thanks.

949
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

950
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: So they when they give you this schedule for that year,

951
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: there's so it's I love it because it gives you

952
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: all the information you need, what day it was, the time,

953
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: you could figure out it was a Monday night game, whatever.

954
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: And so when I pulled up the twenty thirteen schedule,

955
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,320
Speaker 2: they always have the wins in green and the losses

956
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: in red. Yeah, So that's how they put it on

957
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: this schedule. So it's just this long run of red.

958
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: And I was like, wait a second, let me go

959
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 2: pick twenty twelve. So what I did on my computer,

960
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: I'll show you as you're looking at it. So I

961
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: juxtaposed them against one another, and it's like all this

962
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: green on the other side and then nothing but red.

963
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: And so how bad was that Patriots game in twelve?

964
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: That Monday night game? So ten and one up it

965
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: to that point, then finished one in three, followed up

966
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: by two and fourteen. You called three wins out of

967
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: twenty games, mark three and seventeen. Over the next twenty games,

968
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: after that, Patriots. After that, when you beat the Titans,

969
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: beat the Titans at Tennessee, setting up the Monday night

970
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: game against the Patriots, and then it was three and seventeen,

971
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: three wins in twenty games, Johnny.

972
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: That's why I'm so happy.

973
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: When O'Brien got here and they get all those takeaways

974
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: and they carve out a nine and seven season, I

975
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: felt like it was a playoff season, even though they

976
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: didn't make the playoffs that year. They needed help and

977
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: couldn't do it. But then they had three nine and

978
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 3: sevens in a row. And look, I'm not thrilled over

979
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: the moon about nine and seven, but compared to where

980
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: you were at two and fourteen or any kind of

981
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 3: losing season, I'll take a winning season. So I took

982
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 3: nine and seven, and I was happy with it because

983
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 3: they were digging themselves out of that hole. Now, that

984
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 3: two and fourteen team was a better team than its

985
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: record would indicate.

986
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: You are what your record says you are. I get it.

987
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: But they had a lot of talent on that team,

988
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: a lot of talent that just wasn't playing together for

989
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: a variety of reasons, and it was heartbreaking to see

990
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: the Kubiak era end. And that's another thing about this game.

991
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 3: You have Demiko Ryans versus Clint Kubiak. Yeah, that's wild.

992
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 1: To that, it's crazy.

993
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: You know that you had Kubiak's son facing Demiko' Ryans

994
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: and how to was Kobiak when Ryan's was playing here man,

995
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: and all of that stuff comes into play. You know,

996
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: this is a one of those family affairs, if you will.

997
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: Here's my favorite stat about this game, and we figured

998
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: this out during studio. Sam Donal will start for the Seahawks. Yeah,

999
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: that means he was faced the Texans as a starting

1000
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: quarterback for four different teams. We faced him in twenty

1001
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 2: eighteen as a rookie with the Jets, we faced him

1002
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: on Thursday Night here in twenty twenty one with the Panthers,

1003
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: then he moved on to the Vikings in twenty twenty four.

1004
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: We faced him then, and we will face him a

1005
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: member of the Seahawks. And I remember thinking, Okay, there's

1006
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: only got to be one of those, And then my

1007
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: first thought was if it wasn't Jacoby Brissett, then there

1008
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: are no others. Then Jacoby played with three teams, and

1009
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: then we find out now there's actually four carry.

1010
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: There's two others.

1011
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Kerrie Collins did it four times with four different teams.

1012
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: The Giants, the Titans, the Colts, and the Raiders played

1013
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: started against them, started against the Texans. And then one

1014
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: that might be the ultimate ended up being a Texan

1015
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: was Ryan Fitzpatrick because he actually became a Texan. Now

1016
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 2: he gets a lot of credit for the Rams game,

1017
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: but he didn't start that one. So it was Bill's Jets, Bengals, Titans.

1018
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: Right, but Donald can beat the Texans, No, he can't,

1019
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 3: not as a jet. Didn't do it, didn't do it

1020
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: as a jet yet, so wait but he but he

1021
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: can do it as a panther. Beat the Texans a panther,

1022
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: a Viking, Viking.

1023
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: And he and j Kobe Brissett would be the two

1024
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: because Jakobey's beat us with three teams, Colts, Dolphins.

1025
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: Money with the games though, because Kerrie Collins man, he

1026
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: was everywhere. He's all over the place. I didnt realized

1027
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: he had been that many places.

1028
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: So in the very first NFL contact the Texans ever

1029
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: had well preseason game you could call the Cowboys scrimmage content.

1030
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the tree season game. He started the Hall

1031
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: of Fame game.

1032
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 3: Yes, the New York Giants, and played with the Giants

1033
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: in two here and they went to the playoffs that year.

1034
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: But the Techson's beat Kerry Collins in this building as

1035
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: a but they weren't a playoff team yet, but they

1036
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: were on their way to the playoffs.

1037
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: And it was a nasty loss for the Giants. It

1038
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: was a very close game.

1039
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: Oh two seasons, Texans made stop after stop. I'll never

1040
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 3: forget that game. I think it was Thanksgiving weekend and

1041
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: it was just a thrill. I mean, any win in

1042
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: that era, Yeah, of course, I still feel like any

1043
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 3: wins a thrill, of course, but that was one of

1044
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 3: two playoff teams you beat in the inaugural season that

1045
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh.

1046
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: So Sam Darnold, Kerry Collins, Ryan Fitzpatrick, four different teams

1047
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: to look started against the text.

1048
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: We had to look.

1049
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: We did have to look because we thought about it.

1050
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: We're like, is there somebody forgetting? And I immediately said

1051
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: FITZI because I remember Jets and Bills.

1052
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: But I was like, he's been with so.

1053
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: Many teams, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, I mean so many. The thing

1054
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: is is we played like he was the Dolphins, right. Oh,

1055
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: he was with the Bucks the year before we played

1056
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: the Bucks. He was with the Dolphins for a couple

1057
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: of years before we played the Dolphins. Fitzy would have

1058
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: taken a cake, but he did not.

1059
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: So Sam donold.

1060
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: It'll be the fourth team that he will have started

1061
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: against the Texans with, and hopefully after it's over he'll

1062
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 2: be two and two in not three and one.

1063
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: I have to give Kevin O'Connell credit for this, And

1064
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: I know Kevin O'Connell.

1065
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: What list was it that anointed me the best coach?

1066
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: There was a coaching list that had him number.

1067
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: Three in the league. We lost our minds still too

1068
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: it was like three or four, still too high.

1069
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: But he is kind of a quarterback whisper Now he's

1070
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 3: got a whisper very hard for JJ McCarthy and whisper

1071
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: for his health and for his playmaker playmaking ability. Yep,

1072
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: And maybe it's just a Minnesota thing. Who is coaching

1073
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 3: When Sam Bradford went there and resurrected things in twenty sixteen,

1074
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: he lit up the Texans. Yeah, and it was his

1075
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: Zimmer coach team and look, he looked terrific for the

1076
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: Vikings first, it was like his last great game I

1077
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: guess it was. It was his last gread.

1078
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was. I don't remember him doing a

1079
00:45:59,239 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: whole heart.

1080
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: That's a lot other category for an offseason show. Quarterbacks

1081
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: who have had great games against the Texans.

1082
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: That shouldn't have, like Zach Wilson, Oh you're forget, Oh

1083
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: my god, twenty twenty three in the rain up there,

1084
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: CJ can.

1085
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 3: Cushy Ultimate, the Ultimate his well, there are two. Tim

1086
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: Tebow three, three hundred yards, three hundred yards, Johnny guys, Yes,

1087
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: that's a blockout game.

1088
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: That's a toy.

1089
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: Will not remember this, give me the man in black panther.

1090
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: I cannot remember this. And JaMarcus Russell.

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00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: Oh man, that game in two thousand and eight was

1092
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: just a killer. Oh god, brutal memories.

1093
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Hope you Sam Darnold doesn't do to us this time

1094
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: what he did last year, what Tim Tebow and JaMarcus

1095
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: Russell did to the Texans. All right, we get back.

1096
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: We'll hit on some Texans news on the other side.

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00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 2: Right here a Texans All Access Welcome back this edition

1098
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: of Texans All Access from the Hundai Texans Radio Studio.

1099
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, side reporter, for

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00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 2: your Houston Texans has dawn on me during a break.

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00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: It's October fifteenth.

1102
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: That's one of the greatest sports days of all time.

1103
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty eight.

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00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: Catholics Versus convicts Number one Miami at number four Notre

1105
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: Dame thirty one thirty, The Irish get a win, go

1106
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: on to the National championship that year. Later that night,

1107
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: out in Los Angeles, Kirk Gibson, hurt basically able to

1108
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: walk on one leg, hits a walk off bomb against

1109
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: the Oakland Athletics whatever they're called now, and Dennis Acrasley,

1110
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: one of the greatest relievers of all time, to win

1111
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: Game one of the World Series. That all happened in

1112
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight. Then seventeen years later, twenty years ago today,

1113
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: future Houston Texan.

1114
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Supposed to be Reggie Bush pushed.

1115
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: Matt Lioner over the goal line in one of the

1116
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: greatest college football games of all time thirty four to

1117
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: thirty one.

1118
00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: USC beat Notre Dame.

1119
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: The fact that those two great games happened at Notre

1120
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 2: Dame on October fifteenth, pretty special. Pretty special. I just

1121
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: thought about that during the break. Plus this is a

1122
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: short one, so I figured i'd throw it in there.

1123
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of Notre Dame, one of Notre Dame's most famous

1124
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 2: players goes by one name, Rudy. Our next guest actually

1125
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: has a connection to Rudy. Steve Rabel play by play

1126
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: man long time for the Seattle Seahawks. He's got a connection.

1127
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 2: Mark Vandermere got out of him. Make sure you stay

1128
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: tuned for that next right here in Texans. We got

1129
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: one our down, one hour left to go. Right here

1130
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday edation of Texans All Access. Appreciate you

1131
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: being with me, John Harris football on a sideline reporter

1132
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 2: for your Houston Texans. And in the previous segment, I

1133
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: told you about a couple of October fifteenth milestones, big

1134
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: time dates in college football that included the University of

1135
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. October fifteen, nineteen eighty eight, Miami versus Notre

1136
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: Dame were the greatest college football games of all time.

1137
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: Then twenty years ago, October fifteenth, two thousand and five,

1138
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: what was supposed to be future Houston Tech's and Reggie

1139
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 2: Bush scored three touchdowns for USC, but he's more known

1140
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: in that game for pushing Matt Lioner over the goal

1141
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: line to be Notre Dame thirty four thirty one. And

1142
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: as I read that out loud, or say that out loud,

1143
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: I know Sean pender Gash is like, yeah, No, like

1144
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: the ups and downs for Notre Dame. Well, one of

1145
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: the other great games at Notre Dame included a guy

1146
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: that we know now just by one name because they

1147
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: made a movie about Rudy Rudiger. Well, a certain individual

1148
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: who will be in Seattle on Sunday night was actually

1149
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 2: on the field that day against Notre Dame. Notre Dame

1150
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 2: was playing Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech had a wide receiver

1151
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: by the name of Steve Rabel. Rabel ended up graduating

1152
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech, going to the Seahawks, the expansion team, and

1153
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: not doing a ton but playing for a few years

1154
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: for the Seahawks. He started doing some broadcasting where you

1155
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 2: know it. He took over as the play by play

1156
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: voice and he has been so for a couple decades.

1157
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: Love hearing his voice. Obviously, no one matches up tomorrow

1158
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: Vandom here, but I love hearing Steve ra Abeill call

1159
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: the Seahawks games. He is fantastic at his job, and

1160
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 2: I love when Mark and Steve sit down and talk

1161
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: about all things Seahawks, but stick around for the real

1162
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: Rudy story. Steve was on the field that day when

1163
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: Rudy has his moment against Georgia Tech. Make sure you

1164
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: stick around. Here's Mark and Steve. It's men behind the.

1165
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: Mics joining us now, Steve Rabel, voice of the Seattle Seahawks.

1166
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: Steve, how's it going today?

1167
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 7: It's great. It's a sunny day here in the Northwest.

1168
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 7: You can't ask for much more than that in October.

1169
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's gonna be a late night Monday affair

1170
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 3: with the Texans and the Seahawks. What do you think

1171
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 3: of the later start time? From the Pacific Coast perspective?

1172
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: Seven o'clock's not bad, but it is still weird for

1173
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: Monday night football on the West Coast. It's a ten

1174
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: Eastern start, nine Central here in Houston thoughts.

1175
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, it is different, but we play several preseason games

1176
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 7: at that time, so it's it's not like the guys

1177
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 7: are used to it. And Mike McDonald is a really

1178
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 7: good and and smart coach about how to get the

1179
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 7: guys ready, how to prepare them, how to rest them,

1180
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 7: how to how to peak at that time of day.

1181
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 7: So they'll be they'll be ready to play. I know

1182
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 7: when I played, which was a thousand years ago, and

1183
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 7: we did play in a several Monday night games and

1184
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 7: just sitting around all day about drives you're crazy. So

1185
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 7: you had an extra hour or two to that, and

1186
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 7: the guys will be really ready to go out there

1187
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 7: and play, really ready to go out and hit somebody.

1188
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: How would you characterize this year's version of the Seattle Seahawks,

1189
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 3: Steve Well, I.

1190
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 7: Would I would say that they are physical. That's that'd

1191
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 7: be the first word i'd use. I'd say there and

1192
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 7: these are a couple of awards that Mike McDonald are

1193
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 7: head coach all so uses they're very connected. And in

1194
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 7: that I mean, it's not like I'm just going out

1195
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 7: there and doing my job. You remember the old NFL

1196
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 7: films Bill Belichick talking to his players on the sidelines,

1197
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 7: just do your job. Well, football is a lot more

1198
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 7: complicated than that now quite frankly, And it's not that

1199
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 7: you're trying to do somebody else's job, but you have

1200
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 7: to know what the guys around you were doing. And

1201
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 7: so that connection of our players, both all the defensive

1202
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 7: guys together all the offensive guys together and then across

1203
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 7: the two so offensive tackles learning from the defensive lineman.

1204
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 7: It's a really tight ball club. They're very smart and

1205
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 7: they have to be to play in Mike's system. I

1206
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 7: just think it's they're as good a team as we've

1207
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 7: had in one place together for a while now, maybe

1208
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 7: going back to the Super Bowl.

1209
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 3: Year, Sam Darnold has looked so good. Steve your thoughts

1210
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 3: on his performance and the risk keyness for lack of

1211
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 3: a better way of putting it in Moving on from

1212
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 3: Gino Smith who did have success in Seattle.

1213
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was a lot of kind of senses outside

1214
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 7: the building that wow, is this something we really want

1215
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 7: to be doing. But John Schneider and his guys and

1216
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 7: Mike they knew that Listen, if Gino feels disrespected or

1217
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 7: if he feels like he's not getting a fair shake

1218
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 7: in a contract negotiation, the same thing that DKA said,

1219
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 7: basically that maybe they should go someplace else. That was

1220
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 7: their feeling, and so the management said, Okay, you know,

1221
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 7: if you don't want to be here, we don't want

1222
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 7: guys that frankly don't want to be here. So they

1223
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 7: immediately turned on their heels and started looking at those

1224
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 7: opportunities out there, and Sam was the perfect guy for

1225
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 7: what the new offensive coordinator wants to do. The Kubiak

1226
00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 7: Van Donald knows that system, played in it, understands it.

1227
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 7: I think it was just a great choice. I don't

1228
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 7: think any of us, though Mark, had an idea that

1229
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 7: he would be as good as he is has been

1230
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 7: so far. So he's just been outstanding. He's, you know,

1231
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 7: completing over seventy three percent of his passes. He got

1232
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 7: sack one time this game against Jacksonville. They've got a

1233
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 7: really good defense. He just he throws on timing. He's smart,

1234
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 7: he knows where everybody's going to be. I just think

1235
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 7: he's been remarkable, and I don't think that we've seen

1236
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 7: the best of him yet.

1237
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: Steve Rabel joining us voice of the Seattle Seahawks, So

1238
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 3: tell me this system, Steve, having played the game, is

1239
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: this a Kubiak system, a Kubiak hybrid with some Shanahan

1240
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: and McVeigh like, how would you describe this? And can

1241
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: you discuss what you think the oranges of this thing

1242
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 3: really are? Is it Bill Walsh, is it Mike Shanahan?

1243
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1244
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you know, everything goes back probably to Bill

1245
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 7: Walsh ultimately, and then you know Mike Holmgren who was

1246
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 7: here for many years, and that system then blossomed under

1247
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 7: all those assistant coaches, and you take a look at

1248
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 7: the coaching trees that Mike Hombren had and how many

1249
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 7: of those guys went on to be head coaches and

1250
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 7: pushed that system out further. And then you know Shanahan.

1251
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 7: He was under that system for a while, so he

1252
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 7: took it and he kind of tweaked it his way.

1253
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 7: I think it's probably more the Shanahan system. McVeigh does

1254
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 7: things his way. I think every one of these assistant

1255
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 7: coaches who have used this, the kubiaks, they've all been

1256
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 7: kind of to a certain extent, and then they all

1257
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 7: make their tweaks. A lot of those tweaks, you know,

1258
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 7: depend on the people that you have, the players that

1259
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 7: you have. Can they do what you're asking them to do?

1260
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 7: Do you have not every team has a wide receiver

1261
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 7: with the like we had last year, the last few

1262
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,720
Speaker 7: years in Dk Metcalf the side of the strength to speed,

1263
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 7: or now this year our number one receiver Jackson Smith

1264
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 7: and Jigma who is so smooth and so so surehanded

1265
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 7: and run great routes, and he's so smart at understanding defenses.

1266
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 7: So you also have to apply that offense to your

1267
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 7: to your personnel. But I think probably it goes back

1268
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 7: to the Shanahan tree ultimately, and then the guys kind

1269
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 7: of do with it what they think is best, how

1270
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 7: they think it best works. I know that Shanahan liked

1271
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 7: to run the ball. He never got a lot of

1272
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 7: credit or as much credit as he should have for

1273
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 7: running the football back in his days with the Broncos.

1274
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 7: But you know, this offense is really based around the

1275
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 7: running attack, and we haven't run it quite as well

1276
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 7: as we like to yet. We're getting there, but it

1277
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 7: takes a little time.

1278
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba, you brought him up and Dk

1279
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 3: Metcalf similar question to the Donald and Gino Smith situation.

1280
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: Now you still had Jackson Smith and Jigba in the building,

1281
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 3: of course, and he was great last year, but what

1282
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: about him and what he brings especially this year he's

1283
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 3: exploding and no Metcalf on the other side. I know

1284
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: you have Cooper Cup and others helping out, but what

1285
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: do you think there?

1286
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think it was I love Dk and

1287
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 7: all that he could do. One of the things that

1288
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 7: you have to remember too. You know these guys, he

1289
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 7: and Gino, they've been with the team for a while,

1290
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 7: so the coaches knew him. John Schneider knew him. They

1291
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 7: kind of knew what maybe the ceiling would be for

1292
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 7: those players and where that ceiling was. And then you

1293
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 7: then it becomes a matter of economics. Can we afford

1294
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 7: to do this with this player of this age at

1295
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 7: this point in his career, when in fact, we could

1296
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 7: get someone younger and perhaps a little more athletic to

1297
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 7: do it, you know, for a little less money, at

1298
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 7: least at this point until their big contract comes up.

1299
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 7: So all of those things figure into it. I think

1300
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 7: JSN is as good as I've seen. I think he's

1301
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 7: as good as anybody out there right now. He's got

1302
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 7: the speed to run past you. He's such a terrific

1303
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 7: route runner. It gets just finds the to get open.

1304
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 7: He understands spaces in defenses and working with Cooper Cup

1305
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,919
Speaker 7: Cooper is an amazing receiver and again another guy who

1306
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 7: understands how to read defenses, how to best leverage guys,

1307
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 7: get him on the wrong foot and then make his

1308
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 7: his cut, make his break. Both of them have very

1309
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 7: sure hands. And then the final part of that equation

1310
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 7: is Sam Darnold has just been so accurate in throwing

1311
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 7: the ball. So it makes those guys really look pretty

1312
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 7: good too, because you got a guy that's throwing the

1313
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 7: ball on him and if they're not completely open, he

1314
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 7: throws them open. And he's he's not afraid to throw

1315
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 7: it into small windows or lay it up over the

1316
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 7: top and drop it in the bucket, as he did

1317
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 7: against Jacksonville the other day. So JSN and he's just

1318
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 7: a you know, you've met a lot of players as

1319
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 7: if I over the years. He's just such a quiet,

1320
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 7: very introspective kid who all he wants to do is

1321
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 7: become better every single day. And that's pret admirable.

1322
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: Steve Rabel joining us voice of the Seattle Seahawks. Steve

1323
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: defensively so good against the run, so good rushing the

1324
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: passer too in key situations. What about that side of

1325
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 3: the football your general thoughts on the defensive side.

1326
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 7: I think they had a bit of an awakening, And yeah,

1327
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 7: we won the game against Jacksonville and the defense played,

1328
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 7: you know, just lights out, especially upfront. The awakening game

1329
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 7: the week before against Tampa Bay, and I don't know.

1330
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 7: I've heard the stories from kind of inside the locker room.

1331
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 7: Mike McDonald is is smart's he understands players. He is young,

1332
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 7: he can speak their language, and he can also let

1333
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 7: him have it when he feels like they've underachieved. And

1334
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 7: he was not happy about the Tampa Bay game, and

1335
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 7: we asked the question of him, and we brought it

1336
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 7: up on our broadcast on Sunday in Jacksonville. The way

1337
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 7: the defensive front was playing. They obviously got out dead

1338
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 7: that morning, really angry, and Jared Reid said as much afterwards.

1339
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 7: He said, Yeah, we were angry because we knew and

1340
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 7: we got yelled at about it, but we knew we

1341
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 7: didn't play well against Tampa Bay. Did not get any

1342
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 7: pressure on Baker Mayfield this time, seven sacks on Trevor Lawrence.

1343
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 7: I mean, that's just an unbelievable game. And most of

1344
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 7: it came from those guys up front. That's where the

1345
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 7: I don't want to say the leadership in total, but

1346
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 7: that's where it all starts on both sides of the ball, frankly,

1347
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 7: offensively and defensively. It starts up front. And when you

1348
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 7: got guys like Leo Williams and Jared Reid, two veterans,

1349
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 7: Byron Murphy in the middle, and then DeMarcus Lawrence, who's

1350
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 7: come back from an injury here. This was his first

1351
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 7: came back after a couple of weeks and he was

1352
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 7: just outstanding. So you can't say enough about the kind

1353
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 7: of job those guys have done. And tied in with that,

1354
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 7: the linebackers and the edge rushers trying to take a

1355
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 7: little bit of the pressure off of that secondary because

1356
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 7: the secondary has been so beat up and missing players

1357
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 7: since the very first game, and this has been a

1358
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 7: big help for the defense too.

1359
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: Steve playing there, what makes the home field advantage so good?

1360
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 3: Besides noise? Maybe, what do you attribute it to. I

1361
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 3: know that this year you got a couple of losses

1362
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 3: at home, but they're very close games and these things happen.

1363
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: What about the home field overall in Seattle and it

1364
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: seems to be a citywide thing because you dub has

1365
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: that craziness going for them as well over the years.

1366
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,479
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts there?

1367
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what's interesting about that because we had

1368
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 7: it going back to the days, you know, when I

1369
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 7: played in the Kingdome. We got here in nineteen seventy six,

1370
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 7: with the inaugural team, and I mean they sold fifty

1371
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 7: seven thousand season tickets in a couple of days, and

1372
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 7: the fans started screaming the moment they walked into the

1373
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 7: Kingdome and they never stopped until they blew the building

1374
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 7: up and build a new one. It's just a remarkable area.

1375
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 7: I guess they love their football out here. And then

1376
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 7: there's this a tradition. You know, they call our fans

1377
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 7: the twelves as relates to the twelfth Man. I know

1378
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 7: for a while that was Texas A and M's deal too,

1379
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 7: but it's it's something that that now is almost passed

1380
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,959
Speaker 7: down from generation to generation that Okay, your granddad took

1381
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 7: me to the games when I was young, and we

1382
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 7: screamed and yelled until we couldn't talk on Monday. Now

1383
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 7: you and I son are going to do the same thing,

1384
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 7: or you and I daughter are going to do the

1385
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 7: same thing. It's it's just it's it's terrific. Now. We

1386
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 7: have not been as good at home as we should

1387
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 7: have been, especially last season. I mean we were terrible

1388
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 7: at home, and even John Schneider, the general manager, said

1389
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 7: we got to win our fans back. He told us

1390
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 7: in pre season. We got to get them back in

1391
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 7: the building. By the end of the season, there were

1392
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 7: a lot of our fans selling their tickets to the

1393
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 7: opposing team, and so we had you know, it seemed

1394
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 7: like several thousand, maybe maybe five thousand Vikings fans and

1395
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 7: Packers fans here last year and they made a lot

1396
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 7: of noise for their teams. We don't want to see

1397
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 7: that this year. So it's a great place to play football.

1398
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 7: When Paul Allen had the building design, he wanted it

1399
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 7: to be an outdoor stadium. There was talk of making

1400
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 7: it an indoor stadium, you know, a covered stadium. He

1401
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 7: wanted it outdoors because when he was a kid, his

1402
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 7: dad took him to U dub games. And it's an

1403
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 7: outdoor stadium. But they designed it so that the sound

1404
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 7: would roll up and then it's caught in those overhangs

1405
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 7: over the top of the upper decks and rolls back

1406
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 7: down onto the field, and it's just so loud down there.

1407
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 7: You can't hear yourself think, especially when you're on defense

1408
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 7: for the Seahawks. So it's a great place to play.

1409
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 7: The fans are terrific and now I know the team

1410
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 7: just says to themselves. We just have to keep winning

1411
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 7: these home games, all right.

1412
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: This is one of those.

1413
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 3: Other than that, how is the play missus Lincoln questions?

1414
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: But when the uniforms were on display with the Buccaneers

1415
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 3: and Seattle, and I know you played the old uniforms

1416
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: and I know they wore those uniforms for a long time,

1417
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 3: But what were your thoughts, what were your emotion and

1418
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 3: as you relive some of those memories.

1419
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 7: Oh, it was great to see.

1420
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 6: I love that.

1421
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 7: You know, you don't know it when you're when you're playing.

1422
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 7: Of course, back in the day, Uh, there wasn't any

1423
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 7: such thing as throwback uniforms or even you know, a

1424
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 7: different set of jerseys. That's all come along later.

1425
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: Uh.

1426
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 7: And and it is a great way to sell paraphernalia

1427
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 7: and to sell apparel. But we always, you know, just

1428
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 7: for the same thing. That's just what our uniform was.

1429
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 7: But I just always loved that. I always loved to

1430
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 7: look at the silver helmets and the and the silver

1431
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 7: pants and the U blue jerseys. And but then again,

1432
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 7: you know, I'm old now and I was used to

1433
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 7: that then. Uh. I loved seeing them come back. I

1434
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 7: wasn't crazy about the cream sickles on the U on

1435
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 7: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but I didn't like them, particularly

1436
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 7: when when they wore them back in seventy six either.

1437
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 7: So I think it's nice. I think it's great. I

1438
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 7: I like that throwback better than I do the We

1439
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 7: have an action green outfit as well that kind of

1440
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 7: looks like a limesickle. I'm not crazy about those. But yeah,

1441
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 7: I have my old jersey someplace. I don't know where

1442
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 7: it is. My wife and I just moved into a

1443
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 7: new place here about two months ago, so I think

1444
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 7: it's in a box, buried in a story block or someplace.

1445
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 7: But yeah, that old jersey might find its way out

1446
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 7: here one of these days.

1447
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 3: All right, A couple more for you, Steve, Steve Rabel

1448
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 3: joining us voice of the Seahawks. I know you played

1449
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: in the Rudy game, So how often do you get

1450
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: asked about that? How many people realize that you were

1451
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: a Georgia Tech player in that game? And I know

1452
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: you're not featured in the movie, but Georgia Tech is,

1453
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 3: and the game is portrayed I know, not quite accurately,

1454
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: but your thoughts on.

1455
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 7: That, Yeah, it is funny. I do get asked about

1456
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 7: that a lot, and yeah, I played in that game.

1457
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 7: I think it was nineteen seventy five, up to Notre

1458
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 7: Dame's play against against the Fighting Irish, and we had

1459
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 7: a pretty good team that year. Pepper Rodgers was our coach.

1460
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 7: We ran the wishbone, so I was alternately either split

1461
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 7: out on the right side or lined up as a

1462
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 7: tight end a lot of the time, and we were

1463
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 7: getting our butts handed to us up there. There's one

1464
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 7: thing about the wishbone. If you've got a really good

1465
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 7: like outside linebacker slash defensive ends who were real physical

1466
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 7: and real athletic, you know, you can defeat the wishbone

1467
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 7: by stretching out that play and then making the tackle.

1468
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 7: And that's what Notre Dame did to us. So finally

1469
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 7: we decided to throw the ball toward the end of

1470
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 7: the game, and I lined up wide and just ran

1471
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 7: a go route and the quarterback threw it up there,

1472
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 7: and it was I could tell it was just sailing

1473
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 7: over going to be over me. But I looked up

1474
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 7: and Notre Dame was playing deep thirds and their cornerback

1475
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 7: was now she was twenty five yards off the ball,

1476
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 7: so my thought was just race to him and try

1477
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 7: to make a play on the ball, and I in

1478
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 7: and I ended up knocking it down, so at least

1479
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 7: he didn't intercept it. But the very next play, the

1480
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 7: young man named Rudy got in the game and sacked

1481
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 7: our quarterback. Well, if I don't knock that ball down

1482
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 7: and they intercepted, they off don't. So But all that said,

1483
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 7: and I've said this many times, his story is remarkable.

1484
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 7: I was lucky enough to be able to play all

1485
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 7: my years in you know, college and now the pros

1486
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 7: or then the prosh. This young man played for the

1487
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 7: love of the game, and he never got into games

1488
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 7: and he just helped the other guys get prepared as

1489
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 7: part of their you know, practice team. I admire the

1490
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 7: hell out of him and the story that he has. Yeah,

1491
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 7: it was embellished a little bit for the for movies,

1492
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 7: but that's just the way they are. But and I

1493
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 7: don't think they carry him off the field. I think

1494
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 7: he'd probably even admit that. I think that was kind

1495
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 7: of added for the movie. But all in all, it was,

1496
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 7: you know, just not a great day for us, and

1497
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 7: so I kind of forgot all about it once we

1498
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 7: got beat by Notre Dame, and you know, there's touchdown,

1499
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 7: Jesus standing in the end zone. You know, he's overseeing

1500
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 7: all that. I didn't think again about it until I

1501
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 7: started to hear this thing about well Rudy played in

1502
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 7: that game. Well, okay, if you say so. So that's

1503
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 7: that's the story, and it's fun to be kind of

1504
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 7: associated with it. And I'm really happy for him, and

1505
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 7: and you know, now, I'm happy that my Jackets are

1506
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 7: what five and six and Z right now, they're having

1507
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 7: a heck of a season.

1508
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 3: It's funny because in the movie it's one way, but

1509
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 3: I saw a YouTube video of the actual TV call

1510
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 3: and your name is definitely mentioned in that second or

1511
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 3: last play, and I think it's criacky on the call,

1512
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken, but it's It's an amazing thing

1513
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 3: to see. And I was watching it because my son

1514
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 3: wanted to see it. He saw the movie and we

1515
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 3: were watching the real thing. I said, I know that guy.

1516
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: He calls Seahawks games. So that was pretty cool stuff. Anyway, Steve,

1517
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 3: it's so great to catch up as always, and I

1518
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 3: really appreciate the time.

1519
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 1: Look forward to seeing you on Monday night.

1520
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 6: Monday night.

1521
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,759
Speaker 7: That's right, all right, Mark, Thanks so much. I appreciate

1522
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 7: it to.

1523
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: The best dudes you ever gonna find right there, Mark

1524
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 2: vanderm Me, the voice of the Texans and the voice

1525
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 2: of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. All right, coming up, we

1526
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: got to catch up with our dude, British Brooks, who

1527
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: stopped by studio recently. We had a good time talking

1528
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: to the second year man on North Carolina. That's next

1529
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 2: the Texans All access' Zevan. Everybody, welcome back this Wednesday

1530
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: edition of Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio.

1531
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Harris, Football Analyst Sideline Report. Two

1532
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: years ago, undrafted free agent out of North Carolina made

1533
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 2: an impact on this particular coaching staff, this organization. Fortunately,

1534
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 2: British Brooks got hurt early in the twenty twenty four season,

1535
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: but he came back with vengeance in training camp at

1536
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Was even better on special teams, was

1537
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: even better in short yardage, was even better at fullback,

1538
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: even better at tailback. He does a little bit of

1539
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: everything for this team, and he's been hot lately. These

1540
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: fourth down runs that he's been able to make at

1541
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,240
Speaker 2: full back have really given the Texas a jolt and

1542
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: we had a chance to talk to him all about it.

1543
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 3: Right here, British Brooks joining us at studio. Welcome British.

1544
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: Thanks you all for I having me.

1545
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 3: It's not your first visit here, it's not your first

1546
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: rodeo here. Okay, we had you right before Mini camp.

1547
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 3: We had your last year, so it's great to see.

1548
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 3: How's this season going for you personally so far?

1549
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 8: Uh, personally, I feel like it's well. I'm always trying

1550
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 8: to get better each and every week, each and every day,

1551
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 8: with every repute I can get. So I feel like

1552
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 8: I'm just trying to learn as much as I can still.

1553
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 2: British, how many different positions do you play? How many

1554
01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 2: did they ask you to play? Because you're on all

1555
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 2: special teams. You can line up at full back, which

1556
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,440
Speaker 2: we've seen, you've taken snaps at tailback.

1557
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 1: When somebody says, hey, they don't know football much, they're like, hey,

1558
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: you play for the Texas. What position do you play?

1559
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,919
Speaker 1: What do you tell him? Offense?

1560
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 3: The best way to put it's like pe Tree places

1561
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 3: defense play offense.

1562
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 8: I don't know how to explain it because, yeah, y'all,

1563
01:10:58,280 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 8: saund the line up at fullback.

1564
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 1: I might be at the hip or something. I might

1565
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 1: be doing something crazy, so I just play off.

1566
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 3: Man, what's the mentality you have to have that full back,

1567
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: not just understanding the play call, but what you have

1568
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 3: to do physically.

1569
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 8: It's definitely a different mindset going and running. Like as

1570
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,759
Speaker 8: a running back you go through the like through the trenches,

1571
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 8: but like as a quarterback you in the trenches, it's

1572
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 8: a lot of you have to find somebody, yeah exactly,

1573
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 8: and if ain't nobody there, hit something. I mean, and

1574
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 8: it's like I said, the trenches, it gets literally crazy,

1575
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 8: like you're gonna get up, you might get stepped on,

1576
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 8: You're gonna.

1577
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: Get a pile on you.

1578
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 8: Is like, oh my gosh, like it's this is definitely

1579
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 8: a different mindset.

1580
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: Bottom of the pile is the craziest place on the

1581
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 2: face of the earth because anything and everything can happen there.

1582
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: I want to talk about your I think was the

1583
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 2: first run you had the other day against Baltimore. Going

1584
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 2: back and watching on tape, I remember thinking at the time, oh,

1585
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: we were all talking about during a break, Like, oh man,

1586
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: I thought, breaks is gonna break that one for because.

1587
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: You slipped through there pretty quickly.

1588
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 2: And then I saw Malachi Starks was pointing at you

1589
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: the entire time he was pointing. He was like trying

1590
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,240
Speaker 2: to get his teammates attention, and he kept pointing at you.

1591
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 1: He's the one that ends up making a tackle.

1592
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: Did you feel like, Man, I slipped this, I'm going

1593
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 2: to the house or did you think I slipped this

1594
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 2: gap I could take this one all the way?

1595
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: Did you think you might have that?

1596
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 8: My first thought was take care of the ball and

1597
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 8: get the first So yeah, So like as soon as

1598
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 8: I got the ball and see where I was going,

1599
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 8: I was all right, I see a defender, I'm gonna

1600
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 8: try to run through his tackle. But I didn't think

1601
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 8: that I would just like end up coming out the

1602
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 8: backside of it. And I was like, I just would

1603
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 8: have looked up. I could have just veered to the

1604
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 8: left real quick and everybody would have been touched down.

1605
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 8: But it was a great play.

1606
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: It was a great play offensively. What's practice like for you?

1607
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 3: Because you have to also engage in the special team sessions,

1608
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 3: so you go from one to the other, and it's

1609
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: full back, its tail back, it's a little bit of everything.

1610
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: So what's practiced like for you?

1611
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 8: British h I was telling somebody's like especially like listening to,

1612
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 8: like to huddle calls, like as a running back, Like

1613
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 8: last year, I would just listen to like the running

1614
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 8: back stuff, and then when I went to start playing

1615
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 8: f and full back, it was like I listen to

1616
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 8: the whole call. So now I can't just sit there

1617
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 8: and listen to if I'm at running back, just the

1618
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:08,080
Speaker 8: running back call. I literally like hear the entire play,

1619
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 8: the concepts of formation, and I'm like, I can be

1620
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 8: at running back, but I'm sitting here saying all the.

1621
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,760
Speaker 1: Titan has this, this, this and that and that.

1622
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 8: And then sometimes that's a little bit of mental gymnastics

1623
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 8: because you got to be like, all right, I'm not

1624
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 8: playing full back or this. Now I'm a running back,

1625
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 8: so I gotta lock in on what I'm doing. And

1626
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 8: then special team is always like hectic. I don't want

1627
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 8: to say like all over the player, but it's always

1628
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 8: like intense and hectics, so like you always want to know,

1629
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 8: all right, I'm at right wing or the kicks out five,

1630
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 8: Just let me focus on what I'm supposed to do

1631
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 8: right now, and then we can coach everything up or

1632
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 8: else on the back end.

1633
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: What's it like special teams with coach Ross.

1634
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 2: I mean, do you do you feel like you have

1635
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 2: to have like three cups of coffee to kind of

1636
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 2: match his intensity every single day when you're going there.

1637
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can even match it. I

1638
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 1: don't I don't think.

1639
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 8: I don't know if coffee is like I don't know

1640
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 8: that that might be all like off the strength, like

1641
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 8: just waking up like he's intense, like crazy. So I'm

1642
01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:10,480
Speaker 8: like me, I'm like, I tried, I hid myself up personally,

1643
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 8: but it don't look like it, like I would just

1644
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 8: look like I'm chilling, but like I always feel like

1645
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 8: I'm on edge a little bit, right, So.

1646
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: We want to personally thank you for making our off

1647
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 3: season shows more significant and better. And I'll explain because

1648
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: last year you come in as an undrafted rookie and

1649
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 3: you're in rookie camp and we're talking about you on

1650
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 3: our show. We have shows in the off season and

1651
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: we're saying, hey, this British Brooks guy's out there, looks

1652
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: pretty good, and you know, people are thinking, well, what's

1653
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 3: what's really going to happen here? Well, you end up

1654
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 3: making the initial fifty three man roster in twenty twenty four.

1655
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 3: What was that like for you when that was announced?

1656
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: When you got the news that you were on that

1657
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 3: fifty three. You know, it's the NFL and everything's kind

1658
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: of fluid, but you made it that day.

1659
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: What was that moment like for you? British? What's the word?

1660
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: I would rather say like relieved? Relieving, Yeah, because it's

1661
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: more relieved than ecstatic.

1662
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1663
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would just like, alright, we're good, cool, cool, cool,

1664
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 8: because like it was either go hard or go home,

1665
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 8: and I was like, I know, I lived it all

1666
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 8: on the field, so it's not in my hands at

1667
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 8: this point.

1668
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 2: But you right now seem to epitomize what a Texan

1669
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 2: is all about because you'll do anything on a field

1670
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 2: the player guts out.

1671
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 1: You're definitely swarm material.

1672
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 2: Like you said, you you get hype, but it may

1673
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: not look that way.

1674
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: You hit anything that moves.

1675
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 6: Uh.

1676
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: You seem to embody what a Texan is all about

1677
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: in a sense. I mean, you just continued playing the

1678
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: way that you always have in your life. But it

1679
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: just seems to fit. Were there other places that you

1680
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 2: were looking at other than Houston?

1681
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hundred percent.

1682
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 6: Uh.

1683
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 8: I think the Raiders, Giants. Yeah, in Houston obviously was

1684
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 8: like my top three.

1685
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 2: What made Houston the best choice for you?

1686
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 8: Just hearing how they talk to me on the phone, Yeah,

1687
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 8: and just hearing how like you can tell when Frank

1688
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 8: talks like he's passionate and I.

1689
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 1: Knew, like, all right, he's that's gonna fit.

1690
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're gonna they want me to develops, not just

1691
01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 8: one thing.

1692
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 1: So since you've been here, do you since that? Yeah?

1693
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: Man, this is the place I belong because of all

1694
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: those things that you embody.

1695
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 8: Oh, like they encourage all of that. Sit right there,

1696
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 8: and I'm not having somebody tell me to like chill,

1697
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 8: you don't need to do that, like go play, go go.

1698
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: Just do you do downtime with the bye? What did

1699
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: you do?

1700
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 6: Oh?

1701
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1702
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 6: Stay here man? With my girlfriend?

1703
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 8: We went horseback riding, did a couple activities and.

1704
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: Just check you know how to ride horses or you

1705
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: knew first time? First time? Really? Where'd you go? Is

1706
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: that in your contract you were allowed to do? Never mind? God,

1707
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: just kidding.

1708
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 8: I think it's called like cypress trills or something.

1709
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: Okay, how her first time? Was it her first time?

1710
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 8: I'll say it my first time on a longe with time?

1711
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 8: I think it might have been both our segment time.

1712
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 8: It's a weird question.

1713
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: We're nervous, Was it like kind of anxiety feel or

1714
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 2: you just get up there and just okay, I know

1715
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 2: I'd be nervous as hell.

1716
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1717
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 8: I feel like I was more like nervous when they

1718
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 8: just like, right here, here's the horse. It just handed

1719
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 8: me the horse and it was like a bigger horse,

1720
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 8: and I.

1721
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 1: Was just like, yeah, you need a big horse.

1722
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1723
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 8: And there was a whole bunch of horses around us,

1724
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 8: and I'm just sitting here like I'm getting close to

1725
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 8: my horse because I don't want to get kicked. I'm

1726
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 8: just like, I don't know what's about to happen, so

1727
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 8: I'm just sitting there. But as soon as I got on,

1728
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 8: me and the horse were locked in.

1729
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 3: So okay. So when you're just chilling out, is it?

1730
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,759
Speaker 3: Do you watch TV shows? You listen to music?

1731
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: What do you like?

1732
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 6: Man?

1733
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 8: By the time I get done chilling, this almost time

1734
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 8: for bed, Like I get home, Ye deal, the dogs

1735
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,280
Speaker 8: my girlfriend, I mean a couple of TikTok swipes.

1736
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: And that's on the phone and then that's it pretty much.

1737
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 1: She rode.

1738
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 3: Can you sleep on planes? Because we have a little

1739
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 3: bit of a road trip coming up.

1740
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 8: I can sleep before. I literally can't sleep at their games.

1741
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 8: I've never been able to sleep out of their game

1742
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 8: since high school. Like I'll stay up too, Heed, Yeah,

1743
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 8: Like my heart's literally pumping.

1744
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1745
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: So whether you're home on the plane doesn't matter.

1746
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,240
Speaker 8: We had a loan flight, but I didn't even play

1747
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 8: the Rams game and I still couldn't even sleep.

1748
01:17:59,160 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1749
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 2: Man, we've got our longest flight now going out to Seattle.

1750
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: I would actually the longest play you have been on

1751
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: have been a long one. How long is this playing?

1752
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: Almost five hours? I don't think when you're at North

1753
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: Carolina you didn't fly far. That was before you're playing

1754
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: Stanford and stuff, as they called the All Coast Conference.

1755
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 1: Now that's nuts. All right, British, thanks a lot for

1756
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: joining us. Good La.

1757
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 2: It's a great young man right there. I love having

1758
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,720
Speaker 2: him on this squad, no question about it. He is

1759
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 2: a true football dude. Speaking of football dudes.

1760
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: Steve McKinney is one of those, but you can also

1761
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: call him. What has happened? Everybody?

1762
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: Welcome back to this final segment of Texans All Access

1763
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: on this Wednesday evening. I'm your host John Harris Football

1764
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: on a sideline reporter started my career at a different

1765
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: radio station and when Steve McKinney retired from the Texans,

1766
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 2: he would join us on the radio and we had

1767
01:18:57,080 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 2: a little jingle that we played courtesy of two my

1768
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: great friends, Frankie the Bull and Chance and it was fantastic.

1769
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 1: So before we bring on Steve McKinney, we.

1770
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,560
Speaker 2: Got to introduce him the right way. It's the Inside

1771
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 2: Skinny with Steve McKinney.

1772
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 1: We're Steve, he's not. He's down the middle and the

1773
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 1: old white marsh bit.

1774
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, he's absa, the Hawsey Tobasa is in

1775
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 4: the trenches pipist when you make sincetin cheese.

1776
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: He's proud too, bey and he's on prow Tooby like

1777
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 3: him nineteen It was.

1778
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: A woman, no kid, like a fat stack. But the

1779
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: boys ton't get on his tins all right.

1780
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,839
Speaker 2: Now introduced the proper way. Let's bring on Steve McKinney

1781
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 2: with Mark and myself.

1782
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: Steve McKinney joining us.

1783
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:04,720
Speaker 3: The Inside Skinny with Steve McKinney, Texas Gridiron legend just

1784
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 3: named to the list. Steve, welcome. It's so great to

1785
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 3: have you with us? And congratulations? How does it feel

1786
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 3: to be named a Texas Gridiron legend for the Texas Bowl?

1787
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 6: That's pretty cool, man, you don't you know, as an

1788
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 6: offensive lineman, you don't ever get too many accolades. So

1789
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 6: I'll take them, take them when I can get them, man,

1790
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 6: So it's real honor.

1791
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: It is definitely an honor.

1792
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to ask you this, what was most

1793
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 2: likely to happen with your roommates in college that Billy

1794
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 2: Lucci become the unofficial mayor of College station or Dan

1795
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: Campbell would end up being a superstar NFL coach? Which

1796
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 2: one was most likely to happen with your roommates at

1797
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: A and M.

1798
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 6: I mean from from when I knew them at that point.

1799
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 6: Neither of those run No, no, nowhere in my mind

1800
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 6: that I ever think either of them would become those

1801
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 6: those things. But you know, I'm very proud of both

1802
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 6: of them. Honestly, they're still great friends and doing very

1803
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 6: very well in their different fields.

1804
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 3: What about Campbell, Steve, because he's the kind of guy

1805
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 3: who delegates, He's not a coordinator. He's a head coach,

1806
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 3: and he hires people to run both sides of the

1807
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 3: ball and special teams, but he's highly involved at the

1808
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 3: same time. What do you think of his leadership style

1809
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 3: and how that works in general?

1810
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's obviously has been very successful.

1811
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 6: I mean, he's a he's a culture builder. You know,

1812
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 6: he's a he's a player's coach. He's going to push you,

1813
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 6: but at the same time make you feel appreciated respected.

1814
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 6: What he's done up there is just really been nothing

1815
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 6: short of amazing. I mean, I'm I couldn't be more

1816
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 6: proud of him, and you know, love that they're having success,

1817
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 6: and I wish they'd wish they'd have won the other night,

1818
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 6: but you know, it's it's it's still a good, good

1819
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 6: football team that's going to definitely compete this year for

1820
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:50,520
Speaker 6: a championship.

1821
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: Steve, you have so many different accomplishments and things that

1822
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 2: you have done in your football career. Is there one

1823
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 2: that stands out more than any other for you? I mean,

1824
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,920
Speaker 2: I know you're an offensive lineman, so you're probably not

1825
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: going to, you know, say hey, I did this, I

1826
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: did that, but I'm asking you to do that right now.

1827
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 2: Was there something that you're probably most proud about your

1828
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:09,799
Speaker 2: football career?

1829
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 6: Well, I would say, you know, as far as little

1830
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 6: accolades go, you know, I'd say two probably stand up.

1831
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 6: One is when they retired my jersey at clear Lake

1832
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:20,920
Speaker 6: High School. I thought that was pretty cool. You know,

1833
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 6: never never thought that was something like that would happen

1834
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 6: for me, but that was a big honor. And then

1835
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 6: the other one I thought was pretty cool was when

1836
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 6: I made the All Joe Team in the USA. Today,

1837
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 6: I think I don't remember what year it was, but

1838
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 6: I like that. I was like, yeah, that's me, man,

1839
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 6: I'm a blue collar lunch pail guy. Yeah, I like

1840
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 6: being on the All Joe Team.

1841
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 3: What about what about Top one hundred Aggies in twenty

1842
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: fifteen you were put on that list. That's a nice list, Steve.

1843
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was pretty cool too. Yeah, that was pretty

1844
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 6: neat to you know. It's cool because when you grow

1845
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 6: up like I did as an Aggie, your whole life

1846
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 6: going to football games is I think my first one

1847
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 6: was I was six weeks old. So I've been going

1848
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 6: to A and M games since I since basically I

1849
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 6: could see, and you know, to make a list like that,

1850
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 6: as you know, if I could have gone back and

1851
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 6: told my you know, ten year old self that I

1852
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 6: would have never believed it, So that was that was

1853
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 6: pretty cool.

1854
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 2: Growing up as an age would imagine that that obviously

1855
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: is such a big thing. But was there something Steve

1856
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 2: playing at Kyle Field, Just playing in front of that crowd.

1857
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: I mean people that go to A and M games.

1858
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 2: I've talked to some friends that were, you know, from

1859
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 2: the SEC, and they've gone to games at A and M.

1860
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,599
Speaker 2: They're like, man, this is like no other place. What

1861
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,679
Speaker 2: was that like playing in front of that crowd, those

1862
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 2: traditions and everything in College Station.

1863
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 6: Well, you know, when when I played there, it was

1864
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 6: a little different. It was still a huge crowd, and

1865
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 6: you know, they were loud, as loud as any other

1866
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 6: stadium in the country at that point, but just such good,

1867
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 6: cool traditions with the band and the core and the

1868
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 6: sawing the horns off, you know, just the yells. Everything

1869
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,000
Speaker 6: like that was was pretty awesome. Man, It's a dream

1870
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 6: come true. And you know, now I go back with

1871
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 6: my son who's coming to play there as well. Wow, Hunter,

1872
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 6: which is obviously another dream come true. I'm excited about that.

1873
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,520
Speaker 6: But you go to these games now and it's like unbelievable.

1874
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 6: The atmosphere. I mean it compared to like even an

1875
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 6: NFL game. It's it's not even comparable. The way the atmosphere,

1876
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 6: especially at night, and the crowd and the music and

1877
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:23,720
Speaker 6: the lights. I mean, it's just a whole four hour performance. Man.

1878
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 6: If you haven't, if you haven't been to one, you

1879
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 6: got to go. It's crazy.

1880
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Steve b.

1881
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 3: Kinney joining us. Steve, He's a Texas gridiron legend. Just

1882
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 3: named to the list. Steve, you came over from the

1883
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 3: Colts as a free agent for the first Texans team,

1884
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 3: so you were with the Horseshoe, but you came over

1885
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 3: from the from the dark side, and I appreciate that.

1886
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: You tell us though, did you not play center at all?

1887
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: Did you play some in college? Saw at Indie because

1888
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 3: you became the center for the Houston Texans in the

1889
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: early days.

1890
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 6: I never I'd never snapped the ball in my life,

1891
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 6: not even in practice. When when they signed me and

1892
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 6: told me I was going to play center, I was like, oh, wait,

1893
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 6: are you sure you got the right guy. I've never

1894
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 6: played center, and I'll never forget. You know, the first

1895
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 6: time anyone even never taught me how to snap a

1896
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 6: football was in the Astronome down in the some dirty

1897
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 6: locker room in the Astrodome, Chris Palmer was teaching me

1898
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 6: how to snap the ball. It was it was surreal. Man,

1899
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 6: it's crazy to think back in that and but I

1900
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 6: figured it out. You know. We had a few fumbled

1901
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 6: snaps that first year, but you know, after that we

1902
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 6: got it rolling. We were good.

1903
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 2: Steve playing for an expansion team like the Texans in

1904
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 2: two thousand and two where there was so much excitement

1905
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: back in Houston because a you know, professional team was

1906
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 2: back in Houston.

1907
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: I know it probably wasn't the team success that you probably.

1908
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 2: Wanted to have, But when you look back on Tho

1909
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 2: those few years, you look back at him finally, do

1910
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 2: you what do you think about the first few years

1911
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,520
Speaker 2: of the years with the Texans.

1912
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 6: Man, it was for me, it was just it was

1913
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 6: so much fun. I loved it. Yeah, we didn't, you know,

1914
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 6: we didn't have a ton of success, but it was

1915
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 6: just so cool being back in your hometown, playing in

1916
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 6: front of your friends and family and your home home

1917
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 6: city that you know, every fans were just so excited,

1918
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 6: even even if we weren't winning, they were just so

1919
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 6: happy to have us there and so welcoming everywhere you went.

1920
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 6: I don't know. I loved it. I have very fond

1921
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 6: memories of the Texans and my time there.

1922
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 3: All right, Steve, everybody talks about the Dallas game September eight,

1923
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 3: two thousand and two. That date will live forever with me,

1924
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 3: and I'm sure with you and anybody was part of

1925
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 3: that thing. So what is number two in terms of

1926
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 3: Texans memories? What's the second thing that comes to mind?

1927
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 3: Second game?

1928
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 6: If you will, Man, I that's a tough one. I

1929
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 6: can think of about three, but I would say I'd

1930
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 6: have to go with the I don't remember what year

1931
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 6: it was, but we were playing Jacksonville at home and

1932
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 6: the game, you know, came down to like a I

1933
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,400
Speaker 6: think it was a fourth and one on the goal line,

1934
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 6: and I think, if we kick, we go to overt

1935
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 6: or we go for the touchdown, we win. And we

1936
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 6: called time out, went over to the sideline, and I

1937
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 6: remember coach Dom Capers was like, we're gonna go for it.

1938
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 6: We're calling quarterback sneak. And I was like, in my mind,

1939
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, I got John Henderson on one side, I

1940
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 6: got Marcus Stroud on my other shoulder. I'm like, okay,

1941
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 6: I'm getting out weighed here. About about you know, four

1942
01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,519
Speaker 6: or five hundred pounds, So this could go pretty bad

1943
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 6: if I don't come off the ball here. But yeah,

1944
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 6: we got We got the ball over the end zone

1945
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 6: and won the game. And that was that was an

1946
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 6: exciting win. I'll never forget that one either.

1947
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 3: Week four, two thousand and three. Yeah, and you went

1948
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 3: to two and two because you beat the Dolphins on

1949
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 3: opening day, lost to then won that one. Two and

1950
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 3: two at the time felt like going to the super Bowl.

1951
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 3: I mean that was pretty strong.

1952
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding. In those days, it was Steve.

1953
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 2: When we were at a computer radio station, you always

1954
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 2: used to join us, and also Joel Dreeson used to

1955
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: join us. And Joel used to tell us about this

1956
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,559
Speaker 2: ongoing battle he had with Kyle Vandenbosch. And we know

1957
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 2: about Andre Johnson's running battle with Courtland Finnegan. Now, those

1958
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 2: just happened to be Titans, so it may not the

1959
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: answer to this might not be a Titan. But did

1960
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 2: you have a running battle with anybody in the NFL,

1961
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: like when you saw him, like Ritchie Incognito and Ninja

1962
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 2: Antonio Smith, those two were gonna throw down. There was

1963
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: always something between them. Did you have Steve McKinney and

1964
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,639
Speaker 2: someone that it was always just, you know, a little

1965
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 2: testy when you two went after it.

1966
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, I'd say I had that you

1967
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 6: with the with the Colts, you know, me and Daryl

1968
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 6: Gardner when he was at Miami, yep. And then you

1969
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 6: know when I was with the Texans, me and John

1970
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 6: Henderson and and even Albert Hainsworth with the Titans. You know,

1971
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 6: those are some big dudes. They were. They were out

1972
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 6: weighed me about probably thirty forty pounds. But you know

1973
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 6: when I when I go against those guys, you know,

1974
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 6: I knew I had to bring my a game and

1975
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 6: be ready to fight for four quarters because it was

1976
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 6: gonna be a battle. And uh yeah, it definitely got

1977
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 6: a little chippy at times, but I think I came

1978
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 6: out ahead on most of them.

1979
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 3: Steve, what was the relationship like between Peyton Manning and

1980
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 3: the offensive line in Indianapolis? How that worked and how

1981
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 3: he helped you guys, if at all I would imagine

1982
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 3: he did. What was that like working with him?

1983
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 6: It was, uh, you know, he definitely made you. He

1984
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 6: held you to a pretty high standard, I'll say that,

1985
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 6: and a lot of accountability, a lot of expectations as

1986
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:28,520
Speaker 6: far as understanding the playbook and and not missing assignments,

1987
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 6: and because you know, when Peyton came up to the

1988
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:32,880
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, he basically had the whole playbook at

1989
01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,800
Speaker 6: his disposal, So you had to know your stuff and

1990
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 6: be ready to switch plays in your head real quick.

1991
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 6: Because if he saw something in the defense that he

1992
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 6: wanted to exploit, he was he was going to call it.

1993
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 6: So that was that was you know, it makes you

1994
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 6: raise your level of play and you know, preparedness going

1995
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 6: into a game because you know, you don't you don't

1996
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 6: want to let anybody down, especially him. So he was, Uh,

1997
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:55,600
Speaker 6: he was a hell of a quarterback man. And you know,

1998
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 6: there's there's a reason he had as much success as

1999
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,839
Speaker 6: he had. It's it didn't happen by accident.

2000
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 2: Steve not counting your home facilities, whether it's A and

2001
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: M in college or any of the NFL teams you

2002
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 2: played for, did you have a favorite place to play

2003
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: on the road where you just loved to shut up

2004
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 2: the fans or just you love the environment, or you

2005
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 2: just loved the stadium. Was there always a Was there

2006
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 2: a place that you loved going and playing that wasn't

2007
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 2: kind of your home facility.

2008
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, any any place in California. It was

2009
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,839
Speaker 6: fun to play because it was always about seventy something

2010
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 6: and sunny, and you know, anytime you're leaving Texas for

2011
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 6: that kind of weather, it's it's not a bad thing.

2012
01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 6: I can tell you. The worst places to play would

2013
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 6: be anywhere in Chicago, Green Bay, or Buffalo in December.

2014
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,759
Speaker 6: Those are the opposite of California. And I'll never forget

2015
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 6: the worst. The coldest game that I can remember playing

2016
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 6: in was uh was Chicago.

2017
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: That was just gonna ask if you were in that game.

2018
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 1: I thought you were in that game.

2019
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2020
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Mark talks about that one a lot.

2021
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark me. It was so cold it was clear

2022
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 6: negative ten. I thought I'd be tough and not wear sleeves,

2023
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:08,400
Speaker 6: and you know, I realized that was a stupid decision

2024
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 6: five minutes into the game. It's just like you can't

2025
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 6: you know, you get you get through a series and

2026
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 6: then you go sit down for you know, fifteen minutes,

2027
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 6: and then you're just frozen again. You go back out

2028
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 6: there and you can like barely move. For the first

2029
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 6: player too, It's just it's brutal.

2030
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 3: That was wild and that was a Texans victory. That

2031
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,440
Speaker 3: was a great win at the time, beating the Chicago

2032
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 3: Bears up there. Lovey Smith was a head coach of

2033
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 3: the Bears in that one, Steve, you got involved with

2034
01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 3: business while you were still playing.

2035
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: So what drew you to that?

2036
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 3: What made you want to do that get involved in

2037
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: ownership and running businesses.

2038
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 6: I'll tell you I started looking at businesses probably my

2039
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 6: after my first year in Indianapolis, because as soon as

2040
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 6: I got there, you know, it's just a constant, you know,

2041
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 6: basically preaching to you that NFL stands for or not

2042
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 6: for long. So you learn pretty quickly you better, you

2043
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 6: better be prepared for your second career because very few

2044
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 6: people are going to retire from the NFL and do nothing.

2045
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 6: So I was always kind of had a business mindset

2046
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 6: of what was my next move after the NFL. And

2047
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 6: it wasn't really until I got to Houston that you know,

2048
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 6: I signed, you know, a pretty decent contract and starting

2049
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 6: to get a little bit of money, and that's when

2050
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 6: I got into a few different businesses. It did the

2051
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 6: Velocity Sports Performance for a while, and got into Free

2052
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:33,520
Speaker 6: Bird's Burrito for a while, and you know, looked at McDonald's.

2053
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 6: And you know, McDonald's was was a franchise I really

2054
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 6: loved and wanted to get into, but you know, it

2055
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 6: required you to give one hundred percent of your efforts

2056
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 6: to it, and I was like, well, I can't do

2057
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 6: that while I'm playing football. So basically, as soon as

2058
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 6: I got done playing football, that was the first place

2059
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 6: I looked. And it took me a couple of applications

2060
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,720
Speaker 6: to get in, but finally got accepted and became an

2061
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 6: owner operator for McDonald's and twenty ten, been doing it

2062
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 6: for fifteen years now. It's been great.

2063
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: So Steve, how many do you have?

2064
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: I remember, I remember we actually talked about this way

2065
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,759
Speaker 2: back when You're saying, yeah, man, I'm gonna I'm gonna go, uh,

2066
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, get with McDonald's. And I was like, oh, okay, wow.

2067
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 2: And then the next time I talk to you like yeah,

2068
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 2: I've got like twenty McDonald's or I'm like, oh.

2069
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: My god, how many do you have? Now? How many

2070
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: you running? And how's that business going?

2071
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 6: Yeah? I've been running. I think I think we're like

2072
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 6: twenty six now, and you know, we've been growing, you know,

2073
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 6: slowly and trying to grow grow steadily. But yeah, I mean,

2074
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 6: you know, business is business is good. I mean it's

2075
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:35,639
Speaker 6: you know, times are a little bit tough right now

2076
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 6: in the economy, and you know, people are stressed about

2077
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:41,639
Speaker 6: different things. But you know we're surviving, doing doing pretty well,

2078
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 6: and you know, I still love the brand, and you know,

2079
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 6: I think I think the future is bright. So it's

2080
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 6: a it's a good way to uh, good way to

2081
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 6: get out of my energy. You know. It keeps me busy,

2082
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 6: that's for sure.

2083
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: Well, I know, and we've talked about this before. I know,

2084
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 3: they made you or they make you work at a

2085
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 3: McDonald's for an extensive period of time to understand what

2086
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 3: people go through working at McDonald's and share something about that.

2087
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,799
Speaker 3: Plus this, Steve, I've always thought, if you can manage

2088
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 3: a shift at McDonald's successfully, you could probably run a

2089
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 3: lot of things in life.

2090
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Am I right?

2091
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, you're right. I mean there's a lot, a

2092
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 6: lot to manage, a lot going on, you know, from

2093
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 6: you know, operations to people and customers and product and equipment.

2094
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's a million different different things that

2095
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 6: can go wrong on any given shift. So it's a

2096
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 6: it's a ton to manage and very difficult for our people,

2097
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 6: but you know, they do the best they can. And

2098
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 6: I think when I first started. In fact, it's funny

2099
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 6: Mark Berman, it texted me that last night even about

2100
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 6: the fact that one time he came through when I

2101
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 6: was going through my training and it was it was

2102
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 6: an evening, I was working in the drive through at

2103
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 6: this location and he came through and looked up at

2104
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,640
Speaker 6: me and kind of kind of looked at me and bewildered,

2105
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 6: like while I was working to drive through at McDonald's. Man,

2106
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 6: it went downhill this in his eyes.

2107
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 1: We've seen We've seen a few people.

2108
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: Tony Levine, former University Houston coach, he got a Chick

2109
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 2: fil A.

2110
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 1: I want to say, it's over Missouri City area. So

2111
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: there are a few people that have done it. All right,

2112
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: I got to ask you, because your.

2113
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 2: Beloved Aggies are undefeated in one of the top five

2114
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 2: teams in the country, how you feeling about the Aggies

2115
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 2: and what Mike Elko's doing.

2116
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what man Elko has done a great

2117
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,639
Speaker 6: job down there as far as just building the culture,

2118
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:28,599
Speaker 6: building the roster.

2119
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 8: Uh.

2120
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 6: You know, you look at what they have right now.

2121
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 6: I mean, they got they got a very explosive passing game,

2122
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,599
Speaker 6: great receivers on the outside. They got a good running game,

2123
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:41,599
Speaker 6: they got a very experienced offensive line. It's doing a

2124
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 6: great job defensively. I think they've the last three SEC games,

2125
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 6: they're like two for thirty four on third down. Just

2126
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 6: an incredible statistics. So they got him rolling right now.

2127
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 6: I know, you know they're running back Levon Moss, their

2128
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 6: their main back, gets got hurt. He's gonna be out

2129
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 6: for a little while. But I think they got some

2130
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 6: guys behind him that'll that'll help pick up the slack

2131
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,600
Speaker 6: and you know, with a passing game like we have

2132
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 6: right now, I think we'll be okay. But it's a

2133
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,240
Speaker 6: it's a great season so far. Man. I hope they

2134
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 6: can keep this thing going because this looks like a

2135
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 6: special team.

2136
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:13,599
Speaker 1: Man.

2137
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: It was great to catch up with Steve McKinnie. Appreciate

2138
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 2: having him on the show. Steve Rabel from the Seahawks,

2139
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,560
Speaker 2: British Brooks and general manager Nick Assaria appreciate all of

2140
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 2: you out there for listening.

2141
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for see tomorrow and as always,

2142
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 1: go Texans.