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My take is 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: if somebody in Saudi Arabia had a good month with oil, 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: they buy him for thirteen billion. Because you don't know 28 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: if Google is going to be around in twenty years 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: or Microsoft. You know the Dallas Cowboys are going to 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: be around in twenty years. In fact, I remember reading 31 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a story years and years ago they went back to 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: like nineteen eighty and they took the thirty leading companies 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: on the Dow Jones, and twenty five years later only 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: one was still like a really it was like Chevron 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: or something. And so my point is the Mark Walters 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: group is the Dodger owner. It's a really good group. 37 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: And it does make me think, Okay, the mom and 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: pop Lakers are over, because that's been the big knock 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: in LA is that. I mean, people forget little old 40 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Van Gilbert could buy the Bus family four times. They've 41 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: been one of the poorest NBA ownership groups. 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: Correct, and one of the poorest from a net worth perspective, 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: and I would argue that they haven't. They have been 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: one of the more poorly run organizations in the league. 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: And I know that's weird because they have the second 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: most championships and they just got Luke and Lebron went there. 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 2: But I think that they have squandered a lot of opportunities. 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: I think that since doctor Bus passed, they have There 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: are very few things you can say the Lakers do 50 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: top notch in the league. And while they have been 51 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 2: you know, willing to spend, I think they've you know, 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: last decade, they've spent like the seventh most money they 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: should be the seventh most for Los Angeles Lakers. Is 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: not maximizing the market and the brand. I understand, it's 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: not baseball, so there is a cap. And in the 56 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: new NBA with the aprons, just spending recklessly can really 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: hamstring you. But this is a massive net positive for 58 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers, for their fans. In my opinion, 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 2: you should not have. They're in a weird spot where, 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: similar to the Cowboys, where ownership's primary source of income 61 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: is the team, and that's one of the reasons I 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: think the Cowboys don't necessarily spend the way they should. 63 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: And that's how I have felt about the Lakers. So listen, 64 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: I don't know much about Mark Walters. I know that 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: he bought twenty six percent of the team from I 66 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: think A Shoots or whomever with the guarantee. Part of 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: that was if the buses sell, I get the first opportunity, 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: and now he's in. Now I agree agree with you. 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Historically sports franchises have been undervalued. I wonder if we 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: are now getting to wear ten billions, ten billion dollars 71 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: kind of like, that's a lot thing about this money. 72 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: So the the Celtics sold for six billion. The GDP 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: of Boston, the gross domestic product is six hundred million annually. 74 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: It's a trillion in Los Angeles. The Los Angeles economy 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: would be the twentieth biggest economy in the world, meaning 76 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: it would be bigger than about one hundred and eighty 77 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: five countries. 78 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: So and so, and they own the the Lakers own 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 2: their arena, so that's an importance. So like you just 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: if the arena's worth two billion, given where it is 81 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: in the real estate and whatever. So now it's not 82 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: six versus ten at six versus eight. And you take 83 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: the fact that LA's a bigger market, and you know, 84 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 2: as much as this will pain our buddy Bill Simmons, 85 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: the Lakers are the biggest brand ambasketball. 86 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: Like Celtics were in the finals two years ago, it 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: didn't get good rating, It didn't get a number D. 88 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: I mean when the Lakers are in the final, regardless 89 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: of who the star is, it generally gets a much 90 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: bigger rating. 91 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: Well, yes, it's also true the Lakers have never been 92 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: in the finals without one of the biggest stars in 93 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: the Lawler. Well, that's a lot of like, oh that 94 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: Lakers time they made the finals with that scrappy, underachieving team. No, 95 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: it's Lebron or Kobe or Shacker, Magic or Kareem or Will. 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: But still your point stands. Yeah, no, they are the 97 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: the This is a fun one because you did your 98 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Mount what was it, Mount just just more because they're 99 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: just more than everyone else. If we were to do 100 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: God this is this is corny and make funnable content. 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: It also, I'm sure will crush on TikTok or something. 102 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: If we were to do the Mount rushmore franchises in 103 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: American Force. 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Four. 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: To me, there are three no brainers and then people 106 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: would argue about the four fourth. But the three no 107 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: brainers are the New York Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys, and 108 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers. Those to me, do you think 109 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: I'm missing anything there? I think those are the three 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: brands that are truly every corner of the world. They're 111 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 2: you know, somebody's walking around wearing a T shirt even 112 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 2: if they've never heard of the team. 113 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I will say this. I think the 114 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: LA Dodgers because of the Walters Group, perfect spring, summer, 115 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: fall weather, O tawny. Now is you know Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 116 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: Dodger games are now an event. There are fans from 117 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: the Pacific Rim. Every home game owed attendance for the 118 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Dodgers is number one in the league. They played the Yankees, 119 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: I think it was last year if I like twenty 120 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: five percent of the crowd was Dodger fans. They travel 121 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: incredibly well. I think the Dodgers over the last eight 122 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: since they've been purchased from the Mark Walters Group, I 123 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: think they have become and I'm and I mean this, 124 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: I think they're a step ahead of the Yankees. They 125 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: don't have all the pennants, they don't have all the titles, 126 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: but this ownership group is much more It's got deeper pockets. 127 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: It's more aggressive. I mean the way they are pushing 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: contracts down the road. They are a revolutionary fans as, 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: but they're not a bigger brand than the New York Games. 130 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: I think they're getting close. I think Otawni changes it. 131 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: I really do. Well. 132 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: If the idea is like Otani brings in and a 133 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: whole similar to Iron stand why I think he brings 134 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: in the Pacific Round Like what yeah, like what Yao 135 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 2: Ming did for the Houston Rockets. We're all of a sudden, 136 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: it's like you have this whole new market. But if so, 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: the because I really maybe eventually the Dodgers get there. 138 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: If Yankees, Cowboys, Lakers is the three the teams across 139 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: sports competing for that fourth spot, Dodgers definitely are in 140 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: the contention. The Celtics are the Warriors, No, probably not, 141 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: because that's good. The Warriors are like the Chiefs in 142 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: that it's the super nova of the moment in Mahomes 143 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: or Steph Curry, But they don't have a history to 144 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: where they're this big brand. So do you think you 145 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: think the Dodgers now have surpassed the Cubs. Yes, as 146 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: the second biggest. 147 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: Brands in base Yes, okay, because again, remember Chicago wanted 148 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Why couldn't they get them? Because they were 149 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: not considered a global city. They were considered maybe are 150 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: They're like, Chicago has won Best North American City seven 151 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: years in a row from Conde nas Texture. It's an 152 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: unbelievable city, but it's not viewed as an international city. 153 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: D C. 154 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco, LA, New York. Boston similarly is not necessarily seen. 155 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: It's seen as kind of parential for prudential parochial. So 156 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: I think they've surfaced. And the Cubs, the Ricketts family, 157 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: which by the way, they live about five minutes from 158 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: where I'm sitting right now, they are it seats thirty 159 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: six thousand. Their revenues just don't. They're not close. They're 160 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: just not close anymore so. And I think the Cubs 161 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: are historic and they matter domestically, but I don't think 162 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: they pull a big number for that. 163 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: That might be right, and it also might be a 164 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: lot of the benefit of the Cubs win away or 165 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: benefits their own word, but brand recognition for lack of 166 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: better term of the Cubs had to do with if 167 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: you're a millennial when you were growing up with like 168 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: basic cable, for some reason, you got the Cubs games 169 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: because of WGN, so you could like watch your team 170 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: and the Cubs, and so they had that and now 171 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: people can watch whatever teams they want. I just saw 172 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 2: the who do you sorry for this slight detour, but 173 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: after the Cowboys, what do you think the biggest brand 174 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: in football is? Like, I hesitate in the moment, it's 175 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: obviously the Chiefs, but you wonder, like if Mahomes retired, 176 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: like's an interesting everyone if nobody cares if you bought. 177 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: The Chiefs today, well you would have to consider Andy 178 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: Reid and Patrick Mahomes part of the buye. So this idea, Well, 179 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: the brand, what is the brand right now? Jerry Jones 180 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: is eighty, They're dysfunctional, their roster's bad. There's value to it. 181 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: But Kansas City's got the best quarterback in the league 182 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: for the next ten years. So I mean that when 183 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: Lebron James went from the Miami Heat back to Dan 184 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: Gilbert in Cleveland, I talked to somebody in that billion 185 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: equity space. He said that was a four hundred million, 186 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: billion dollar day for Dan Gilbert, the Calves without Lebron, 187 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: even with Evan Mobley and Donovan Mitchell, Lebron changed that. 188 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: It was a paradigm shift economically for Cleveland. Literally, Ken 189 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: Griffey saved baseball in Seattle. Lebron James changed the economy. 190 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's tour, an example, made two point one billion dollars, 191 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: sold ten million tickets. That is double the next biggest 192 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: tour ever. So it's only big because of one reason, 193 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: the artist. So if you count, I mean, let's be honest, 194 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: if you bought a soccer franchise ten years ago and 195 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Ronaldo had an eight year contract, it would make it 196 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: worth half a billion dollars. More So, I think the 197 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: Chiefs with Mahomes, that adds to me, that adds half 198 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: of somewhere between five hundred billion and a billion dollars. 199 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: They go from six billion to seven because of Mahomes. Well, 200 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: so that's the other piece of this. 201 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: The other piece of this is if the if the 202 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: most valuable team in the NBA is now worth ten 203 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: billion dollars, what is the most valuable team in the 204 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: NFL worth is it fifteen billion? 205 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Like? 206 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: Honestly, like, what is if this is the new because 207 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: you can't tell like as much as as big of 208 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: a brand as Lakers are. And I understand in the 209 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: NBA's new TV deal, I get all that there is 210 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: nothing that is the machine, that is the NFL. So 211 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: if the Lake, if we now have Lakers ten billion, 212 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Celtic six billion, you know, as the metrics, then the 213 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: if forget the Cowboys. I'm trying to think of a 214 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: good you know, a good if the San Francisco forty 215 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 2: nine ers, yeah, were for sale, are they a ten 216 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: billion dollar franchise. 217 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark obviously a huge story in the controversy around it, 218 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about it. I was pretty hard 219 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: on the WNBA when Caitlin Clark came in, and I thought, guys, 220 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: you can't open up with a New York Liberty and 221 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: the Connecticut Sun. You want to groove her into some wins, 222 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: because remember she went from the final four into camp 223 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: into playing she and the WNBA they probably knew she 224 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: would be good. They didn't think she'd quite be this good. 225 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: But it's getting to be a little bit like MJ 226 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: is that And they've done a better job this year. 227 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: They had an easier schedule they've put the games on television. 228 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: So the WNBA took a lot of heat, a lot 229 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: of heat, and Val Ackerman, the Commissioner's like, Okay, we 230 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: got ourselves a complete Taylor Swift and tennis shoes rock 231 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: star and they've done a much better job this year. 232 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: The officiating's not great, but the league's now just starting 233 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: to make real money now, right, So it's the officials 234 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: maybe the last part, you know, it's well. 235 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder with that. And I don't know, I'm 236 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: not educated enough on this about what the high hierarchy 237 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 2: of officiating is. But obviously the best basketball officials in 238 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: the world or in the NBA want to officiate in 239 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: the NBA. That let's just I shouldn't say the world, 240 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: just let's just do the US. I assume the second best, 241 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: like men's college basketball. Well yeah, I would imagine the 242 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 2: third best might be women's college basketball because up until 243 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: recently that was a far bigger industry than the WNB, 244 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: like so has the And again I am just speculating here, 245 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: but is the WNBA simply not picking from the you know, 246 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: the are the people who are the best officials are like, well, 247 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: it's way better jobs in officiating than I get, I 248 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: assume that's gonna be. 249 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: They flew commercial airlines a year ago, and yeah, I 250 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: mean the NBA do in like the eighties, so it's 251 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: like it's it's just a different ballgame. But but I 252 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: was thinking about this, most of the time, the media 253 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: gets it right when it predicts an all time star. 254 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: In fact, I would argue, and I think people listening 255 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: to this would push back that we undersold Tiger. Nobody 256 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: thought Tiger was going to have the lowest scoring average ever, 257 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: was going to have the tied for the most career 258 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: wins ever, has the greatest earnings ever. Nobody, not even 259 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: Nike would have guessed that. 260 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: No, and within five years have the scoring record at 261 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: all four majors and the Tiger SLA you know, the 262 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: Tiger Slam. Yeah, nothing else. You're right, Tiger was Tiger. 263 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 2: Lebron Serena Lebron. I would argue all the all time 264 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: grades that turned into all time greats also actually kind 265 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: of exceeded. 266 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Expectations most of the time. I think Bryce Harper at 267 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: sixteen was considered arguably the baseball prospect. Ever, he's turned 268 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: out eight time All Star, two time National League MVP, 269 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty home runs plus that is a 270 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: If you would have said that when he was sixteen 271 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: on Sports Illustrate, he's gonna be an eight time All Star, 272 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: two time MVP, he'd be like, yeah, for the best 273 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: prospect ever that that that's that's in that elite class. Sure, 274 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: but I think Caitlin, Clark, Lebron and MJ I think 275 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: they're better. And I thought Caitlin was going to be good. 276 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: But Gino Ariema, Yukon's coach, came out and said, and 277 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: this guy knows basketball. He's he's the best recruiter in 278 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: the history of the sport. He's like, this idea is 279 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: she's gonna walk into the w NBA in christ No. 280 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: But that was so here's the thing. All the Yukon 281 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: folks had, like the former the legendary Yukon players who 282 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: were then in media, and then Gino, they all kind of, 283 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: in my opinion, had a bias of Man, this was 284 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: supposed to be what everyone was saying about Paige Beckers 285 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 2: a year ago, but Page had blown out her knee 286 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: and she missed time and that and all of that, 287 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: and so they I think that they and they also 288 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: underestimated what a badass Clark was going to be. And 289 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 2: I think they also looked at it and said, well, 290 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: she's great and going to be great, but she's not 291 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 2: better than Brianna Stewart or Diana Torazzi, and they you know, 292 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 2: if they had a transition, she will do. And the 293 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: answer is she's a She is already one of the 294 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: four best players in the league. Oh yeah, she is 295 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: already uh an absolute and I say this in the 296 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 2: kindest words, an asshole on the court, like the way 297 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: you kind of need to They don't need to be, 298 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: but it's something people historically like in their athletes, like 299 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: a trash Larry Birder, Michael Jordan, a trash talker, you know, 300 00:17:55,240 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: hard ass. And she is already impacting way. I think 301 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 2: she has the best per game plus minus in the 302 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: league of everyone that's not on the New York Liberty Liberty. 303 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Crossed ten years except so. The quality of WNBA play 304 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: in the last ten years has improved more than any 305 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: league anywhere. The players are the nutrition's better, the strength 306 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: is better. You go YouTube and WNBA game ten years ago, 307 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: they did not pass like this. Candace Parker ten years 308 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: ago led the league in assists at five and a 309 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: half a game a game. Not only is Caitlin Park 310 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: the best shooter, the best guard, the most influential, she's 311 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: also dealing nine assists per game. So what she's done 312 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: is she's really changed the tempo. She's doubling these all 313 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: time assist numbers or close to it, and giving you 314 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: threes and shooting nine feet beyond the arc. So, I mean, 315 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: as much as I liked her and I thought she 316 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: would be really good, I remember saying on the air, 317 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: she's gonna be She's gonna be really good, top ten players, 318 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: really fast. I don't think she'd beat this. 319 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: No, I listen she I agree with you that I 320 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: do think she is and in contributing to winning exceeding expectations. 321 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: I also think that and maybe eventually will get there. 322 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 2: But there so much in my I don't know what 323 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: you said on the air about this today because I 324 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: missed it, but so much of the social media pearl 325 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 2: clutching of basically we need to protect Caitlin Clark, I 326 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: just think it's so. I think it's patronizing, and I 327 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: also think it fails to recognize this is, in my opinion, 328 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: the best case scenario. 329 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: For the League. 330 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: The fact that she is has this swagger that there 331 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: and Brew made this point, and I thought it was 332 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: a really good one. The fact that yesterday's altercasions primarily 333 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: happened with Caitlin against other white players was actually a 334 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: really nice thing because it removed any of the bullshit like, 335 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: oh do the are the black players don't like it? No, 336 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: you know who doesn't like Caitlyn Larry most of her opponents, 337 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: you know, you know who historically is not that popular 338 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: in sports, the young, awesome, swaggery, trash talking player. That 339 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: player usually has allies on their team and their fans. 340 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 2: And that's it got correct by doctor j everybody and 341 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 2: so and so that's awesome. Here's another thing that's awesome. 342 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: This is only gonna make Caitlin better and tougher and stronger. 343 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 2: That's great. The fact that it is hard and that 344 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: like because the idea, because some of Caitlyn's like, there's 345 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: a real lunatic fringe on the internet about this conversation, 346 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: and I hate doing in life. I don't actually really 347 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: think both sides are a problem. Very often in the 348 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark thing. 349 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,199 Speaker 1: It is both sides. 350 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 2: It is people on both ends of the spectrum are 351 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: out of their minds and the biggest Kaitlyn Vangel like 352 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: the leak. This is the league's cash count and if 353 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 2: they if they're not suspending these other players, she could 354 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: get hurt. Like, give me a break. It was a 355 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: light shove. She fell down. She's gonna be fine. The 356 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: Fever are gonna be in big games for a long time. 357 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: It is she is sustainably drawing eyeballs, and I do 358 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: think it is. Note while people pointed out correctly, oh man, 359 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: when she was out, the ratings dropped. The other piece 360 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: of this is the ratings dropped, but we're still higher 361 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 2: than pre Caitlin Clark WNBA, which means while yes, some 362 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: people are just showing up for her, some people showed 363 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: up for her and were like, oh, I like basketball, 364 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: and this is a pretty good product all stick around, 365 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 2: even if she's not there. At least some people did. 366 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: It's the best thing imaginable for the league. It's the 367 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: best thing imaginable for her, and it is for us. 368 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: You know, here in hockey ended last night. Basketball probably 369 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 2: ends tomorrow in the NBA. 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Often 408 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: if You're Steve nash Or Steph curry and can, shoot 409 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: it can prolong your. Career you can do a you 410 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: know you don't have to, drive you get a lot 411 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: of no contact. Looks and my take On John morant, was, 412 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: YES i saw it was. SAID i thought he was 413 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: a poor Man's Dereck. Rose he's about fifteen pounds less 414 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: Than Derrick. Rose and you, KNOW i understand THE nba, 415 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: media he's a highlight. Player forget the maturity for a, 416 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: second which Is i'm never too hard on guys about. 417 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: Maturity i'm much tougher on football players because they're twenty 418 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: three and twenty four years. Old you bring twenty two year, 419 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: old you bring eighteen nineteen year old guys into THE, Nba, 420 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: okay they're gonna screw, up like the first couple of. 421 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: Years just just build in a really bad. Decision now 422 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: With jaw it was worse than. That but for, me 423 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't the maturity stuff because he's a. Kid it Was, 424 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: okay he's wildly he's wildly. Entertaining he's an incredible highlight, 425 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: player but he's not an effective. Shooter and by the, 426 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: way the last several years it's gotten worse and he's 427 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: hurt more. So he has aged very. Quickly So i've 428 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: never been a fan of hyper athletic guards that aren't 429 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: particularly good. Shooters, Now westbrook was so athletic that he 430 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: could be a poor. Shooter and you, know he's bouncing 431 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: around the league, now but he either's just not a 432 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: lot Of westbrook's, historically And westbrook mostly is. Healthy he's 433 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: a sturdy he has a running. Back jaw's NOT i, 434 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: mean what's job one, eighty you, know one seventy, Eight 435 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: so he's. Spindily SO i just it's not THAT i 436 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: wasn't a. Fan he was a spectacular, talent BUT i 437 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: think everybody in the league Thought zion And jaw were 438 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: going to take it, over and it's going to Be 439 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: it's going to Be Bang caro And sga and these. 440 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: PLAYERS i, mean it's just it's just interesting how much 441 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: maturity and hard work, matters you, Know, Jada, sga Home. 442 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: GREN i, mean it's just like really, focused, driven aspirational. 443 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: Players AND i think it was just too, much too 444 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: soon form and he got banged. Up AND i Think, 445 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: memphis by the, trade is telling you we're going to start. 446 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: Over we're going to start and it's the right. Move 447 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: they can't. Compete we knew it this. Year it's the 448 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: right move By. MEMPHIS i actually like What memphis. Did 449 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: it's just they won't be very good for a couple of. Years. 450 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah you, know we were talking about power earlier in 451 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 3: the one example of a guy who succeeded despite a 452 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: lack of power Is. 453 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 2: Steph. 454 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah And steph is both a great shooter and someone 455 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: who has been consistently available to his team he's been. 456 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Healthy. 457 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah and the tricky thing with Like john's going to 458 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: be twenty six years old at the start of next, 459 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: season and he's just straight up not as good as 460 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: he was three years. Ago, like not as, good he's 461 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: just not as good as a bad at. Basketball, No and, 462 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 3: like this is the age twenty six to twenty seven 463 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: is typically the age when players, Peak Like tatum best 464 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: season of his career right at this, Age this is 465 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: the age when everyone seems to kind of figure it. 466 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 3: Out it's where it's kind of where like the meeting 467 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 3: point of the mental part of the game and the 468 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: physical part of the. Game and from this point forward 469 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 3: it's kind of like a trade. Off you get a little, 470 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 3: smarter a little more, skilled but you get a little less. 471 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 3: Athletic this is the, peak, right and, instead like his 472 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: scoring volume has like in twenty twenty, two takes his 473 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: team to within two wins of the conference. Finals he's 474 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 3: going head to head With steph talking shit to him 475 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 3: having such a great breakout playoff. Run and ever since, 476 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: then his scoring volume has dropped every season since that, 477 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: year his efficiency has gone. Down he just posted his 478 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: two lowest games played totals of his. Career in the 479 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 3: last two. Seasons he's played fewer games in the last 480 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: two years than he did three years ago. Combined like 481 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: it's a it's been a downward. Trajectory and so if 482 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: You're memphis and you're looking at, it you just got 483 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 3: four unprotected first round picks From. Orlando there's deal is some, 484 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: young exciting talent on the, roster some guys Like Gigi 485 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: jackson that are, Interesting Zach edy that's. Interesting they have 486 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: guys in house that they can continue to develop and be. 487 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: Fun but they can bring in a massive trove of 488 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: draft picks by Trading morant And bain and just doing 489 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 3: a full. Pivot not to Mention Jaron, jackson WHO i 490 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 3: think carries a great deal of value somewhere around the, 491 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: league and SO i look at it as like a 492 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: basically it's a turning point For John. Rant you either 493 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: got to commit to him or you've got to get 494 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: off the, ship and the trade is a clear sign 495 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: that they're going to get off the. Ship not to 496 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 3: mention like they might look to TRADE. KCP i wouldn't 497 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: be surprised IF kcp gets moved to a contender at 498 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 3: some point in the next. SEASON i think it's Just 499 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 3: memphis looking at their situation and going, like we're sick 500 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 3: of being in this. 501 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: Business it's So jaw is such a cautionary tale when 502 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: you look at at big stars that explode and then 503 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: and then fall off and don't eventually rise to the. 504 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: Level it's always kind of a maturity. Thing it's almost 505 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: always that like you just couldn't handle the, spot Like 506 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: zion couldn't handle his. Weight wasn't it terribly focused? Player 507 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: ZION i thought was a tremendously just massive. Torque there's 508 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: just nothing like. HIM i Thought joe was. Spectacular BUT 509 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: i think it's it's one of the REASONS i like 510 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: nil as kids are going to stay in college and 511 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: they're going to be surrounded by non basketball players and 512 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna be coached, hard and they'll go to class 513 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: and it's like it's a it's a big broad life 514 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: beyond just basketball and A g. League SO i think 515 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: i've And i've talked about this multiple. TIMES i Think 516 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: nil's were going to help THE nba and college, basketball 517 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: and you're going to get more. Guys The auburn player 518 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: WHO J mack. Loves auburn's got a guard that's. Explosive 519 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: he's coming back To. Auburn he could play in THE. 520 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: Nba it'll make him a BETTER nba player and a 521 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: great college. Player so and some of These european guys 522 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: now are coming over to college. Basketball SO i think 523 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: the coaching in college basketball has always been, excellent sometimes 524 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: almost two, dogmatic, right like it's just so coach. Oriented 525 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: BUT i look At jaw AND i think the story 526 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: Of jaw is a little too much too, soon and 527 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: just wasn't quite ready for the. STAGE i, mean there 528 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: was a moment in time where you, thought for about 529 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: a year maybe, two you're, like, oh he's gonna be 530 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: the face of the. LEAGUE i mean that that was 531 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: about three years, ago and then it all just, unraveled 532 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: AND i don't think we need to face the. LEAGUE 533 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: i thought he for a while looked like. It he 534 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: just wasn't ready for. It it's a lot to ask 535 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: and he wasn't ready for. 536 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: It, yeah you know what happens in this. League it's 537 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 3: success is so short lived because people are coming for. 538 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 3: You you, Know Like jannis looks like he climbs the 539 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: mountaintop in twenty twenty, one looks like he's gonna launch 540 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: this New, nope here Comes. Joki yeah he's the. Problem 541 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 3: it's Like jaw looks like he's about to climb the 542 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: mountaintop in twenty twenty. Two shay And ant have both 543 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: lacked him since they've kind of reached their their collective. 544 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: Ceilings and LIKE i, think you, KNOW i do believe 545 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: In John. MORANT i do he has a supreme athletic 546 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: trait in the ability to get. Downhill he actually is 547 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: an underrated shot maker close to the rim in terms 548 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 3: of like his floater and like little short. STUFF i 549 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 3: do think there's somebody that should probably consider taking a 550 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: bet on him or a chance on. Him AS i look. 551 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: Around you, know we're gonna talk ABOUT kd here in a, 552 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: second AND kd as we're gonna talk about it in 553 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: more detailer in a. Second but The athletic is reporting 554 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: That katie is preferring The, spurs which we'll get to 555 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: in a, minute but Like, houston If houston can't GET, Kd, 556 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: like would they consider a guy Like John? Morant is 557 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 3: there a team out there that has the that's in 558 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: a tough position that can afford to take that kind of, 559 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: risk maybe A sacramento a team that's been kind of 560 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: stuck in, Mediocrity like is there a team out there 561 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: that is willing to take a risk on a guy like? 562 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: Him BECAUSE i do think the upside is their. Calling 563 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: Like i've seen a lot of stuff over the last 564 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: couple of days ranking him at various points in the, 565 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: league AND i do think when he's, healthy he's still 566 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: like a right around the fourteenth or fifteenth best player 567 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 3: in THE nba because no one can keep him in. 568 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: Front he is an extremely talented. Player that's the frustrating 569 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: part is that it hasn't come. Together BUT i do 570 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: think that there's some somebody out there that's going to 571 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: take a chance on. Him but, ultimately whether or not 572 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 3: it works out is going to be whether or Not 573 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 3: jaw actually makes the changes that he needs, To, like 574 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: you got to, improve like you have to develop as 575 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: a jump shooter to take it easier on your. Legs 576 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: if he develops as a jump, shooter it will make 577 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 3: his downhill drives more dynamic and less, frequent which will 578 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: help him stay healthier and available to his. Team there 579 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: is a real upside, there he just hasn't been able 580 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: to capitalize on. It But, colin what are your thoughts 581 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: on the report That Kevin durant prefers The. SPURS i 582 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: was not a huge fan of this. Fit we were 583 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: talking last week about How wemby being very, thin kd 584 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 3: being very, thin even Deeron. Fox he's super fast, guard 585 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: but he's not a power. Player not a lot of 586 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 3: power on that. Roster, colin what are your thoughts On 587 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: katie potentially going to The. 588 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: Spurs, WELL i, mean to, Me Wembin yama And Stefan 589 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: castle are the. Team like that's nothing against De aaron And, 590 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: Vassal BUT i think those two guys are all, stars 591 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: one of them ALL nba so AND i think they're 592 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: just getting better. FAST i Think i'm always cautious to 593 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: Say Kevin durant doesn't fit. ANYWHERE i think he fits. 594 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: Everywhere like my Wife osa, says like salt works with, 595 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: everything like like like my son was a. Chef my stepson's, like, Yeah, 596 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: Bacon grease And butter work with everything That's Kevin. Durant, 597 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: like you can just find a spot for a guy 598 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: who's the best jump shooter at any given juncture in the. 599 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: League so AND i also Think kevin just kind of 600 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: figures it. Out you, KNOW i don't always like his 601 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: decision making on, teams but even In, brooklyn he was 602 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: the one THING i liked about. It he was the one. 603 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: THING i mean In, arizona In, phoenix it Was Bradley 604 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 1: beale that drove us. Nuts Kevin durant was giving me 605 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: twenty six and twenty. Seven i'm not disappointed with. Him 606 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: i've been disappointed with you, know his like team, selection 607 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: BUT i just kind of feel like he's water like 608 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: he just he just kind of floats and finds his 609 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: level AND i think he'll fit. Anywhere AND i also 610 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: think you've got really smart Between Chris paul and De Aaron. 611 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: Fox you, know you have good guiters on that, team 612 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: like really smart, guys and you can be a really 613 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: flawed team if you're. Intelligent we've talked about The Miami 614 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: heat like one of the smartest teams in league. History 615 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: it's Like Alan, Lebron, Wade, Bosh battie A. Haslam it's 616 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: like she's high. Functioning they didn't have a. Center chalmers 617 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: drove everybody. Crazy wade And lebron kind of had duplicate, 618 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: games and you're, like, yeah they got the four straight, 619 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: finals like they just figured shit out. Right AND i 620 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: kind of feel like if you Put wemby and and 621 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: It's fox and it's, uh you'd have to move. OFF 622 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: i Think Harrison barnes we talked about. BEFORE i think 623 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: it was the BUT i MEAN i just Think kadi would. 624 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: WORK i think it would just. WORK i think. IT 625 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: i Think houston needs him. More BUT i MEAN i 626 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: think he looks At houston and, thinks all, right like Like. Sangoon, 627 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: YEAH i Mean thompson is he a great offensive, player 628 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: yet he's more of an athlete defensive. PLAYER i don't. 629 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: KNOW i Think katie's smart and looks at it and just, thinks, 630 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: MAN i could have bad shooting nights and we could 631 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: score one twenty eight In San. Antonio LIKE i think 632 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: that's how he looks at. It Maybe i'm, wrong you, KNOW. 633 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: I want to be clear just BECAUSE i say it's 634 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 3: not my favorite fit doesn't mean it can't. Work Like 635 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: i'm a big believer in don't overthink things like don't 636 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 3: Overthink Kevin durant next To Victor wembinyama And Darren, fox 637 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: like they're gonna score a lot of points and they're 638 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: gonna be able to to get a certain number of. 639 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 3: Stops THERE'S i there is you were just talking about 640 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: With Desmond. Bain there's a reason Why Desmond baine's shooting 641 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 3: is so incredibly valuable in The orlando context on a 642 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: team that not only doesn't have a guy who can 643 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: make jump, shots but doesn't have a guy who can 644 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 3: make jump shots off the. Move so it's uniquely super 645 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 3: valuable to that. TEAM kd anchored by the physicality Of. 646 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 3: HOUSTON i like the kind of like force multiplier effect 647 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 3: he could have. There that, said even in the context 648 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: Of San, antonio he's obviously a massive. Upgrade he's obviously 649 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 3: gonna make them way. Better there's even like some interesting 650 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 3: stuff you could look at in the big. PICTURE kd 651 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 3: is like probably the best shooting workout guy in the 652 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 3: league to Pair victor Webbin yama. With he's legendary for 653 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 3: the quality of his shooting, workouts him going game, speed 654 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 3: him working on shots that are specifically available IN nba 655 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: games off of certain. Actions katie is like a legend 656 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 3: in his workouts off the. Floor wemby's going to be 657 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 3: doing all those workouts with, him you know he, Is 658 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 3: and it would lead to a certain development in terms 659 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: Of wemby's big picture. Health but it looks to me 660 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: more like less of a immediate contender juggernaut and more 661 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 3: of like kind of a fun place For katie to 662 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: end his career right go hand in hand In. 663 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: Wemby that's WHAT i. THINK i Think katy looks at 664 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: it and thinks this would be. Fun is that it 665 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't BE i wouldn't have to drop twenty eight, points 666 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: would come. Easy AND i Think katie looks at it and, thinks, 667 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: okay Dearon. Fox you Know, wemby the structure of the. 668 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Organization they draft smart, players they don't draft a lot of, 669 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: ego they don't draft a lot of. DUMMIES i Think 670 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: katie looks at himself and, Thinks, Okay houston's got. This 671 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff In houston That i'm not 672 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: sure it's ever gonna be great in the. Playoffs it's 673 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: a lot of hyper athleticism and length and running AND 674 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: i and that's. Fun BUT i don't think at this 675 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: point he wants to be a, mentor right LIKE i 676 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: think he wants to. GO i Think i'll have some 677 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: fun and play with really smart, players highly functional, players 678 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: and all put the pressure on me to figure out 679 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: WHERE i, fit you, know like they don't need. HIM 680 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: i Think houston needs. HIM i think The knicks could 681 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: really use. Him SO i, think you, KNOW i think 682 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: FOR kd it IS i think it's. Perfect that would be. 683 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: Fun it would be fun for, him AND i think 684 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: it would be fun for. 685 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 3: Us it falls in line with the same ideology that 686 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 3: led him To Golden. State you, Know like to your, 687 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: POINT kd could win a title In, houston but it 688 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: would be a chore and offense would very. Difficult he'd 689 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: be facing crazy Looks, now the flip side of that 690 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 3: is he wouldn't have to be the same statistical monster 691 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: In houston that he would be in other situations Because 692 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 3: houston's defense is so good that he would just need 693 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 3: to basically lift them over the top on the offensive 694 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 3: end of the. Floor but there is something to be 695 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 3: said about basketball is more fun when the ball's moving 696 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 3: around and you're playing with more offensive skill when you 697 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: like Kd if there's one weakness at this point in his, 698 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: career he doesn't pressure the rim a Ton well Dearon 699 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 3: fox sure as hell. Does so like he's going to 700 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: get to play off of those advantages and play off 701 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: the ball like there is A kadi has told us 702 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 3: to our faces exactly who he is for. Years he loves, 703 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 3: basketball and he wants to play a fun brand of basketball's. 704 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 3: Right and so even if we look on it and 705 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 3: add it on paper and, go, Oh, houston, big, strong physical, 706 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 3: team they can anchor him with. Defense Emy udoka is 707 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 3: not the best offensive coach in the. World that team 708 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,879 Speaker 3: doesn't have a lot offensive. Talent it Would it would 709 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 3: be a lot Like Oklahoma city in twenty. Sixteen And 710 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 3: i'm thinking he looks at that and, goes, Oh i'd 711 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 3: rather play, fun free flowing basketball with some more talented offensive. 712 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 3: Players and so with that being the, CASE i Mean 713 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 3: San antonio is going to be a really interesting team 714 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 3: if they pulled something like this. Off all of a, 715 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 3: sudden a guy Like Jeremy sohan becomes super important because 716 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 3: he'd have to be such a defensive anchor for them 717 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: in terms of size and. Strength Stefan castle obviously defensively 718 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 3: as a, guard would have to do a lot of that. Work, 719 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 3: Again i'm not sure THAT i would view That spurs 720 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 3: team as exceptionally. Dangerous but what a fun way For 721 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,879 Speaker 3: wemby to start his career and what a fun way 722 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: For katie to end his. 723 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: Career, WELL i think Also katie looks At lebron and 724 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: Thinks lebron's always figured it. Out Is lebron doesn't want 725 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: to do a lot of the dirty. Work like if 726 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: he went To, Houston katie'd have to do some of 727 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: the dirty. Work he'd be, like he'd be Like steph 728 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: And Golden, state where it's, like, Oh steph plays, poorly 729 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: that's the narrative when they, lose it's Not Jimmy butler 730 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: And steph In. Houston very quickly he would be because 731 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: Because Jalen green's a hot and cold, shooter and very 732 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: quickly If houston, loses it's, like, Well, katie you, know 733 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: an off shooting, night. 734 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 3: We traded for. Him he was supposed to save. 735 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: Us that's, Right and it's just not the case In San, 736 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: antonio he'll be Part AND i do think as players get, 737 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: older they're looking for, fit and you, know it's it's 738 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: And i'm okay with. THAT i think As i've, Aged 739 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: i've always liked. Fit it's it's just fun to be 740 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: part of a, group a mix of young and. Old 741 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: but you don't want to be a, mentor LIKE i 742 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 1: just don't Think. Katie at this, POINT i think fun 743 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: is a really interesting word Because kyrie is fun to play. 744 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: With that's why he went, there And Golden state no 745 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: longer because of. Relationships wasn't he wasn't having a good. 746 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: Time he was, winning and so, Yeah i'm okay with. 747 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: It he's had a he's had an all time. Career 748 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: he's a different. Cat But i've you, Know i've come 749 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: to terms with not everybody is the. SAME i really do, think, 750 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: though what you're seeing right now in THE, NBA i 751 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: really like AND i know we don't have a super, 752 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: team but it's becoming like THE. Nfl it's a VERY 753 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: gm driven, League like the smart gms are gonna. WIN 754 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot of them are in The west and they 755 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: have been for thirty. Years that's why The west is 756 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly top to, bottom always deeper than The. East you 757 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: just have more good owners and more good. Gms and 758 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: the other thing, IS i think what we've really seen 759 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: this there's a lot of maturity in the league right, 760 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: Now Like indiana And Oklahoma. CITY i, mean these are grinding. 761 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: OUTFITS i MEAN i Think indiana plays pretty good. DEFENSE 762 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: i mean, again juxtaposition With okac jecktposed to, that, well 763 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,440 Speaker 1: it doesn't look the. Same but there was a in 764 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: the second quarter in this, GAME i was, Like, God 765 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: india has given them. Problems SO i JUST i think 766 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: the league right now it went through a cycle where 767 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: it felt kind of you had old stars and two 768 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: young guys like you, know and you had These jaws 769 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: and these it's like they're just not. READY i just 770 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: feel like we've got this group Of halliburton AND sga 771 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: And Jalen williams and and it's just like really Good, 772 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: tatum really good young, players totally dedicated to the, league 773 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 1: and fewer and fewer old guys are. Relevant AND i 774 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: think IT'S i don't it may not get, ratings BUT 775 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: I I'M i really, like okay see In, Indiana LIKE 776 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: i really respect top to bottom both. Organizations the volume