WEBVTT - The Next American Genocide 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.680 We often talk about the system in purely negative terms. 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:08.719 This is actually a thing the left and the right 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:11.920 seemed to share. In America. Only the ever vanishing center 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.400 expresses much faith in the system. And even then you 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:16.439 won't find a lot of folks who will happily cheer 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.720 the bureaucracy that runs so much of our government. It's slow, unwieldy, 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.800 my opoic at best, and heartlessly inhuman at its worst. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.159 To increasing numbers of Americans, the system is one of 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.680 the great evils of our modern era. The American militia 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:33.360 movement was first incited by Ruby Ridge and the burning 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.680 of the Branch Davidian compounded Waco. But rather than laying 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.720 blame on specific individuals and the bad choices they made, 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:43.320 many Americans blamed the federal government as a monolithic entity. 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.600 Tim McVeigh didn't bomb the A. T. F S Headquarters 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.880 or the Pentagon, or try to assassinate a bunch of congressmen. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.040 He bombed a federal building. Even if you aren't actively 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.400 cleaning a gun and your bunker, laughing to yourself at 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.680 how I'm surely a stooge of the New World Order. 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.960 Your view of bureaucracy as unlikely to be a charitable one. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.840 I'm not going to defend to say the FBI or 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.720 even the d m V here. I've got issues with 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:11.800 both organizations myself, and as somebody with libertarian anarchistic tendencies, 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.959 I've always been hesitant to give any credit to bureaucracy. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.759 But then I read a book called Black Earth by 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:21.039 Timothy D. Snyder. He's a professor of history at Yale 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:24.960 University and his specialty is the Holocaust. Professor Snyder is 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.639 hands down one of the greatest minds in his field. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.760 His work is impeccably researched, in mind bogglingly thorough, and 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.920 in Black Earth, he argues that bureaucracy did more than 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.320 just about anything else to save lives during the Holocaust. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:42.160 During his research, Professor Snyder found that the Jewish communities 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.840 that saw the most complete eradication in Europe were the 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.960 ones and locations that suffered from what he calls double 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.000 state destruction. I e. Poland was conquered by the Nazis 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.520 and the Soviets. They basically split it down the middle, 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.840 so the Polish state was destroyed. Then Germany invaded and 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:00.280 wiped out the Soviet government in Poland, so the state 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:05.200 was destroyed twice. According to Professor Snyder quote, Germans found 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.120 the conditions where one could do as one pleased, where 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.400 they could kill Jews in large numbers for the first 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.400 time in nineteen forty one, as they invaded the Soviet Union. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:16.120 It was in the zone of double occupation where Soviet 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.320 rule preceded German, where the Soviet destruction of interwar states 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.680 was followed by German annihilation of Soviet institutions, that a 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.840 final solution took shape. Almost all of the two million 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.120 or so Jews who came under German rule in nineteen 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:30.680 thirty nine would die. The same was true of the 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.440 two million Jews who came under Soviet rule in nineteen 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.960 thirty nine and nineteen forty. Indeed, the Jews who initially 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.280 fell under Soviet rule were the first to be murdered 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:42.720 on Moss by the Germans. France, on the other hand, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.160 didn't really have its state destroyed. The Germans took over, 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.640 but a lot of the underlying bureaucracy was left in 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.359 place because it would have been just way too much 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.000 trouble to rebuild from the ground up, and this left 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.560 the Jews and other targeted minority groups in France with 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:01.200 more options. According to Snyder quote, sidisanship in modern states 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:05.200 means access to bureaucracy. Bureaucracy has the reputation of killing Jews. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.080 It would be closer to the truth to say that 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.160 it was the removal of bureaucracy that killed Jews. So 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.919 long as state sovereignty persisted, so did limits and possibilities 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.520 afforded by bureaucracy. In most offices, time is slowed and 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.640 matters are considered, perhaps with the help of practitions or bribes. 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:24.040 When people in sovereign states beyond Germany wish to be noble, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.560 bureaucracy provided them with the opportunity to frame their arguments 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.760 on behalf of individual Jews in the pragmatic or patriotic 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.680 terms that employees of the state could understand and endorse. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.760 The bureaucracies beyond Germany also exhibited the typical tendencies of 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.920 passing the buck, awaiting clear orders from higher authorities, and 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.560 insisting on clarity of expression and proper paperwork. Many of 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.520 the things that make bureaucracies annoying and daily life could 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:52.040 and did mean survival for Jews. When government's collapse, they 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.800 leave vacuums, and those vacuums are often filled by not 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.000 just another government, by the collected hate and rage of 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.040 the most bigoted citizens in those areas. Is The rise 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.640 of Isis in Iraq is a fantastic example of that. 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.520 The governments in Syria and Iraq had degraded enough that 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.320 a large insurgent force was able to gain purchase, and 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.560 once they were dominant in a region, they just started 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.760 murdering all the groups of people they've been whining about 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:17.440 for years. Imagine you live somewhere in the Bible Belt, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.679 a place like Georgia or Oklahoma, or even further south 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.000 in Texas. For some of you, this won't require much imagination. 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.080 Once the fighting starts, once cities are convulsed with protests 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.440 and roads start being bombed and cops start being shot, 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:33.440 normal order will, as we've discussed, break down. If you 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.120 grew up in that part of the world, the South, 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.640 it shouldn't be hard to imagine that local megachurches would 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.320 slide into help provide order in stability. In other less 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.480 religious areas, forms of libertarian municipalism may take place, as 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.719 we discussed a couple episodes back where there backed by churches, 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:49.560 local councils, or communes. Most of these autonomous zones will 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.640 be broadly a political focused on the immediate tasks of 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.440 defense and ensuring survival in a decent standard of life. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.360 Ideology will matter less than getting shipped done on a 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.360 day to day basis. But some parts of this nation 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:04.280 will be dominated by ideology. And if we're looking at 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.680 extremest ideologies that are already most dominant in the United States, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:12.240 we inevitably wind up at Christian fundamentalism. In two thousand seventeen, 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.719 when judge Roy Moore won the Alabama Republican primary, he 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:18.840 credited God for his win. Now that on its own 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.479 is not so strange. In fact, it's pretty normal. But 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.440 the more you look into Roy Moore, the more his 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.360 version of God looks uncomfortably similar to the God worshiped 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.760 by Isis. I'd like to quote from a scene in 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.400 an article about comments More made while speaking at the 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.719 Open Door Baptist Church about the nine eleven attacks. He 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:39.480 quoted Isaiah thirty twelve thirteen, which some fundamentalist claim predicted 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.960 the attacks because you have despised his word in trust, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.480 in perverseness and oppression, and say thereon Therefore, this iniquity 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:48.520 will be to you as a breach ready to fall, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.400 swell out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:55.240 at an instance. After citing this, More said, sounds a 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.680 little bit like the Pentagon, whose breaking came suddenly at 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.200 an instance, doesn't it? If you think that's coincident. If 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.200 you go to verse twenty five, there should be up 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.960 every high mountain, and upon every hill, rivers and streams 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:06.840 of water in the day of the Great Slaughter, when 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.240 the towers will fall. You know, we've suffered a lot 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.279 in this country, maybe, just maybe because we've distanced ourselves 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:13.880 from the one that has it within his hands to 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.360 heal this land. A few minutes later into his speech, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.720 More made it clear how he thought the United States 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:24.279 had distanced itself from God. We legitimize sodomy and legitimize abortion. 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.240 More obviously lost that congressional race to the Democrat, but 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.360 only barely, and only because it turned out he was 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.279 a serial sexual harasser of young girls, and even then 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.080 he beat the mainstream Republican endorsed by President Trump for 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.440 his primary slot. The scariest thing, however, is that by 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.880 the standards of many prominent Southern Christian nationalists. Roy Moore 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.960 is a moderate. Here's North Carolina Pastor Charles Warley, speaking 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:51.480 in two thousand twelve. Build up great, big, large, fierce, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.720 hundred fifth year, a hundred mile long cut all the 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:01.520 Langmans in there, fly over and drop some food. Do 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:06.480 the same thing where the Choyers and the homosexuals and 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:10.800 have that fisce electrified. They can't get out freedom and 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:14.480 and you know how in a few years they'll die out. Now, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.920 this speech, of course caused an uproar and drew widespread condemnation. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.200 But you know what else happened. More than a thousand 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:24.280 people rallied to support Pastor Warley. He received a standing ovation. 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.200 Here's Preacher Matt Powell, a young want to be Christian 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:31.120 YouTube personality, speaking in two thousand eighteen. I'm very radical. 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.960 I mean a lot of people ask me, you know, 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.200 a lot of people tell me all the time, Oh, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.880 you're so radical. I'm very I'm very radical Christian, very conservative. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:39.880 And you know, I believe that one of the reasons 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.080 that our country is actually going downhill is because the 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.640 conservative Christians are actually being kicked out of the White House, 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.960 you know, and the morals that our country are founded 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:49.280 on and as far as homosexuality goes, you know, I 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.760 believe the Bible puts the death penalty on it. I 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.720 believe it's I believe it's disgusting. In two thousand seventeen, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:58.400 Houston was hit by some apocalyptic floods. Minister Kevin Swanson, 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.679 a piece of ship, blame these floods on gay people, 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.720 saying Houston's very, very aggressively pro homosexual mayor had brought 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.480 God's wrath upon the city. He said this on his 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:11.480 radio show. Jesus sends the message home. Unless Americans repent, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.800 unless Houston repents, unless New Orleans repents, they will all 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.680 likewise perish. That is the message that the Lord Jesus 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.440 Christ is sending home right now to America. No, all 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.880 this rhetoric occurred in relatively peaceful, not a war zone America. 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:27.800 Just think how much more violent the rhetoric and the 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:29.720 actions of these kinds of people would be in the 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.080 event of a second American Civil War. Gay and trans 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.600 folks are already scapegoat a anytime something terrible happens anywhere 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.280 in this country. If the nation itself was thrown into 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.719 violent turmoil, is it such a stretch to imagine fundamentalists 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.839 deciding God wants them to punish such sinners. A few 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.480 episodes ago, on the episode about how to Save America, 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.000 I played you some excerpts from one of Alex Jones's 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:54.559 shows where he talked about his belief that the drag 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.840 Queen Story Hour was really just a quoi scheme to 0:08:56.880 --> 0:08:59.760 make it easier for queer people to abduct and abused children. 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.960 Well later in that episode he went further, let a 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:06.160 child grow a little, have some love, have some parents, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.480 and be a good little person, and then they can 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.880 get him in a dark pit. Oh and then it's 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:16.160 so good the energy these demons suck off your child. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.240 It's so much better than just giving him cancer, because 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.240 you know, the parents are there when the child's dying 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.440 from the cancer from the vaccine, and so they still 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.240 have love, and it's just not as special. But to 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.120 have him in those dungeons all alone, and then all 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.520 the guys in clown off, it's pulled back when Dracula 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.200 comes in and they're licking their lips and they're scared 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.840 of Dracula. A lot of them gotta be used by Dracula, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.200 and but they're still hoping for a little bit of 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.720 that blood, and then Dracula goes in there and rips 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.439 that child to pieces and drinks that blood and takes 0:09:47.440 --> 0:09:50.480 their guts and just racks it and then leaves. And 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:53.440 then the vampire minions just run and just lick the 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.720 blood off the altar, lick the blood off the altar. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:00.000 And then Dracula's women come in, all the porn stars, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.240 all the sexy women I want to live forever, and 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.240 they come in and they just eat little pieces of 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:08.040 their feet and arms. Rabble. That's probably enough of that now, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.920 just so I'm being completely open, Alex wasn't just implicating 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.000 gay people in the child blood sacrificed thing. He thinks 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.679 the whole Democratic Party is basically complicit in this scheme 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:20.760 to sacrifice children, but he definitely singles LGBT people out 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.760 as foot soldiers in that effort. Sometime around the fifth century, 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.080 a d a rumor began to spread around the more 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.520 bigoted chunks of Christendom. It claimed that Jewish rabbis would 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.160 semi regularly kidnap and sacrifice Christian children in order to 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:37.800 consume their blood. Now, this is just literally the wrongest 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.680 to think and be a huge amount of Jewish religious 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.760 law is actually based around the fact that human sacrifice 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.600 is explicitly banned. This is one of the things that 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.800 separated ancient Jews from Pagans. But over the centuries, this 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.640 lie was passed down and spread from nation to nation. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.040 It became known as the blood Libel. By the time 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.720 the nineteen twenties rolled around, it grew into a powerful 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.960 part of the developing Nazi ethos. As early as nineteen 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:02.520 twenty six, not the newspaper Der Sturmer wrote lurid stories 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.920 of the blood Libel as a way to convince Germans 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.480 that Jewish people were a direct danger to their children. 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.160 When you believe a group of people is abducting and 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.480 sacrificing literal babies, that makes it a lot easier to 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:18.240 justify murdering them, doesn't it. Here's Alex Jones one more time. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:26.680 You know, vengeance is God's. Vengeance is God's but God 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:32.439 has instruments of vengeance. That's always a twist to the riddle. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:38.679 And Southern globalists expect to try to terrorize us. We're 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.360 not on these poor kids. You got strung out one 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:45.160 of your dodgeons. We're going to terrorize you now, Jones 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.440 is a nut, clearly, but that's no reason to not 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.320 take his calls for violence seriously. There's horrifying precedent for 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.720 conspiratorial nuts on the radio inciting literal genocide. It happened 0:11:55.720 --> 0:12:02.240 in Rwanda on April six who to President Habiarimana was assassinated. 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.120 This triggered a spasm of unspeakable violence, which led to 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.400 the violent murder of more than eight hundred thousand members 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.240 of the Tutsi ethnic group. Much of this killing did 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:12.440 not occur at the direction of the government. A huge 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.600 amount of it was spontaneous, and it was all urged 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.560 on by a handful of who to radio personalities who 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:21.040 directly encourage the violence. I found a Duke University paper 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:24.560 that analyzed many of the pertinent radio broadcasts. The author, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.800 Megan Lyon, noted what I found especially interesting about the 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:29.840 content of these broadcasts was the way in which its 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.640 efforts to direct the extermination of the Tutsi population was 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.160 paralleled by its efforts to claim authority over the telling 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.559 of history. The radio broadcasts reveal a struggle over who 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.160 gets to tell history, and therefore a struggle over a 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:55.880 monopoly on truth. We don't fight now Alex Jones and 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.000 his followers certainly view themselves is engaged in a struggle 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.480 with the mainstream media you, which they see is holding 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.960 a monopoly on truth. That's why he called his platform 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.840 info Wars. Everyone on this podcast has already heard Jones 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.480 and a number of other figures with sizeable audiences either 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.960 call for violence directly. We'll go right up to the 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.880 edge of calling for violence. The breakdown of order caused 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.160 by a second American Civil War will not make any 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.360 of these people more moderate. That said, I don't think 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.120 you'd see mass murder campaigns against gay people on a 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.280 national scale. Violence would occur in communities where the state 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:31.560 retreated an extreme fundamentalist militious to cold in suburbs and cities, 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.840 they would round up and execute the people they believed 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.080 were responsible for bringing God's wrath upon the United States. 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.240 It's possible that the federal government, if controlled by a 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:42.400 right wing regime, would choose to work with some of 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.079 these militias, particularly as the military's manpower shortages became increasingly acute. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.520 We saw a version of this happen in Iraq during 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.880 the fighting from Mosle, when Sheia militias were allowed to 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.199 fight alongside Iraqi regular army soldiers against the sunny warriors 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.920 of Isis, and of course, anti LGBT bigotry is far 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.719 from the only kind of big tree that exists in 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.880 the United States and that has the potential to be 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.760 a trigger for elimination. As to violence, in the last 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.600 six months, we've seen two different white supremacist terrorists attacks synagogues. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.640 There may well be another attack by the time this 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.520 episode drops. Anti Semitic violence is as old as Western civilization. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.040 Much of this podcast is speculative, but one thing we 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:21.080 can be absolutely objectively certain of is that a sizable 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.520 number of violent people would blame the collapse of the 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:28.280 United States on the Jews. There would be murders and pograms. However, 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.640 from where I'm sitting, the religious minority who would be 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.760 most threatened by the collapse of order in the US 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.280 are American Muslims. During the two thousand eight campaign, John 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.720 McCain quoted the support of a pastor named Rob Parsley. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.160 McCain called Parsley, quote one of the truly great leaders 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.160 in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide. Now, according 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.440 to ABC News, Quote campaign adds positioned Parsley right behind 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:54.760 McCain for photographers, apparently unconcerned about Parsley's well established denunciations 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.240 of the Islamic faith in a book Silent No More, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.800 and on DVDs of sermons about Islam. Islam is an 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.680 anti christ religion that attends through violence to conquer the world, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:07.040 Parsley says on the DVDs reviewed by ABC News. America 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:10.280 was founded with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed, 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.440 Parsley says, and I believe September eleventh, two thousand one 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.600 was a generational call to arms that we can no 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:21.080 longer ignore. Bridget Gabriel is a Lebanese American Christian. She 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.520 founded the organization ACT for America in two thousand eight. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:28.000 Today it is the largest anti Muslim organization in the country, 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.240 according to Naples News. The ACT for America website at 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.360 one point read tens of thousands of Islamic militants now 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.480 reside in America, operating in sleeper cells, attending our colleges 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.360 and universities, even infiltrating our government. They are here today, 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:44.360 many have been here for years, waiting, preparing now. This 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.240 kind of rhetoric is staggeringly similar, and in some cases 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.640 identical to the claims Nazi propagandists made about Jewish people 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.320 in the years leading up to the Holocaust. One central 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.960 Nazi claim was that Jewish Germans could not truly be 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.640 loyal to Germany, they would always be loyal first and 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:02.440 foremost to Judy. As During one lecture, Bridget Gabriel claimed, 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.360 a Muslim quote cannot be a loyal citizen to the 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:09.200 United States of America. It's not theoretical to say that 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.480 this sort of language can radicalize people into acts of extermination. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.440 Six million murdered Jews are proof of where words like 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:19.560 these can lead given the right circumstances. In two thousand twelve, 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:22.680 the n r A hosted retired Lieutenant General William Boykin 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.400 at a speech in Saint Louis. General Boykin is on 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.840 the record for claiming that there should be no mosques 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.400 in America. The n r A made him the keynote 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.160 speaker of a prayer breakfast where he stated Islam as 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.320 evil and called it a totalitarian way of life which 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:40.680 should not be protected under the First Amendment. Now Hispanic 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:43.400 Americans might be targeted as well. There are already thousands 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.400 of migrants and concentration camps along our southern border. These 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:49.400 camps are not currently death camps, but people have already 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:51.200 died in them at a time when the country is 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.960 still stable and wealthy. It is not beyond the pale 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.880 to imagine the government countencing more violence, or at least 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:01.120 worse conditions for those people as the national situation deteriorates. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.560 One thing that makes me worry, particularly for the fate 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.280 of Hispanic Americans, is the increase in a very specific 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.320 set of words used by American politicians to describe undocumented immigrants. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.719 Researchers at the University of Nevada have found that comparisons 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.639 to vermin and viruses have grown markedly more common in 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.639 the language of right wing politicians. They've also shown that 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:24.520 the use of this language has a distinct dangerous impact quote. 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.880 When these metaphors are present in a news article that immigrants, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.080 the more participants identify as American, the more disgusted they 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:35.440 experienced reading the article. As these researchers note, quote media 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.040 can be a powerful shaper of public attitudes towards specific 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.560 social groups. Hitler capitalized on this in Nazi Germany, advocating 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.639 for anti Jewish propaganda in mind comp and creating movies, flyers, 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.800 and other media communications portraying the Jewish people as subhuman, 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:52.000 as rats or parasites, that is, vermin infiltrating Aryan society. 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.520 Tutsis were routinely called cockroaches leading up to their genocide 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:59.920 by the Jutuos in Rwanda in nine And then, of course, 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.919 there's the possibility of eliminationist violence against America's black population. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.000 The history of anti black sentiment in America is literally 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.840 as old as the United States. The history of eliminationist 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:12.400 anti black rhetoric in this country is thankfully at least 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.000 a little bit shorter, but killers like Dylan Rufe for 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.440 proof that the desire to murder huge numbers of black 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.040 people has grown more common among the fascist rite in 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.680 recent years. I don't see open elimination as violence against 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:27.159 Black or Hispanic populations by the government as particularly likely, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.679 but the growing power of white supremacist militias could pose 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.600 an existential threat to large communities of both groups. Ten 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.960 years ago, a large k k k rally might have 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:41.240 attracted twenty people. Neo Nazi demonstrations tended to be similarly small, 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.439 but today white supremacists and Nazis of all stripes have 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:47.880 seen huge surges in both their activity and membership over 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.359 the last ten years. According to the Anti Defamation League, 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.280 seventy three percent of all domestic extremist related killings have 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.240 been perpetrated by right wing extremists, compared to twenty three 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.919 point four percent perpetrated by terrorists motivated by Salafi jihadism 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:03.480 and three point two percent by left wing extremism. The 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.399 Center for Strategic and International Studies says that the number 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:09.280 of far right terrorist attacks has more than quadrupled from 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:12.480 two thousand sixteen to two thousand seventeen. We have seen 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.360 that scale of surge in again a period of relative 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.040 prosperity and stability. History shows us these French ideologies will 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:22.119 become more prevalent and attract more members during times of 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.920 unrest and violence. This is certainly what white supremacists are 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.600 banking on. In two eighteen, their propaganda efforts increased by 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.560 a hundred and eighty two percent, leaping from four hundred 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.679 and twenty one reported incidents of white supremacists propaganda to 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.080 one thousand, one hundred eighty seven over the course of 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.719 a year. Like it or not, the Nazis and their 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.080 ideological kin are growing every year. In the unrest of 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.800 a second American Civil war, we can expect their numbers 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:52.480 and their body count to leap exponentially. We offer a 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.440 white supremacists full target Muslims and Jewish people, as well 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.440 as black and Hispanic Americans. We know this because they've 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.679 been planning to do so longer than most of you 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.919 listening to this have been alive. In the nineteen eighties, 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.920 a neo Nazi terrorist group called The Order carried out 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.080 a series of daring robberies, netting millions of dollars, which 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.879 was used to fund hate groups and their militias around 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:25.400 the country. These groups were connected via an early computer 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.480 network and organized mostly by a fellow named Lewis Beam. 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.520 Beam presided over a loose alliance of white supremacists and 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.480 Nazi groups with a shocking amount of access to military 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:40.360 grade weaponry, including law rockets, grenade launchers, and fully automatic weapons, 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:42.800 much of it smuggled with them by their compatriots in 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:47.160 the military before they were only partly exposed and taken down. 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.280 Beam and his comrades were anticipating the collapse of the U. 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.280 S Government and planning what they would do after its fall. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.960 Here's what Beams said to a group of recruits in 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:59.359 nineteen eighty. We'll set up our own state here and 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.240 announced that all non whites have twenty four hours to leave. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.720 Lots of them won't believe it or won't believe us 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:06.600 when we say we'll get rid of them, so we'll 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.240 have to exterminate a lot of them the first time around. 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.080 The biggest threat for genocide I see in the United 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:16.280 States comes after federal power starts to fall and fall 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.679 back from certain areas. Emboldened racists will see that as 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.480 their opportunity to seize a white homeland, and they will 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:26.879