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Speaker 1: So I speaking of New York. I was just at
Speaker 1: the Capital One Cafe in Union Square, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And I've never gone in before, and i've because it's
Speaker 1: always been one of those things where you're like, what
Speaker 1: is the marketing strategy here? Like, is it actually incredibly
Speaker 1: useful for them to have this massive, like advertisement for
Speaker 1: Capital One in the middle of one of the most
Speaker 1: high traffic areas of New York City, the crossroads of
Speaker 1: the world, and just have people in and out of
Speaker 1: the Capitol One Cafe all the time, like getting their
Speaker 1: coffee or is it just like like and that's and
Speaker 1: that's the value to them is just it's just rand
Speaker 1: exposure because it's like associating Capital One with coffee doesn't
Speaker 1: really make a ton of sense. I guess it's like
Speaker 1: a credit card is money, and money is something you
Speaker 1: buy and you buy more.
Speaker 2: That's about paffinated, less about coffee, java the bean what
Speaker 2: we're talking about. I think it's more about cafe fame
Speaker 2: means Europe cafe means also central perk, it means linger,
Speaker 2: it means couches, it means discussion of religion, it means breakups.
Speaker 1: And that's of course you want to associate all of
Speaker 1: that with your credit card.
Speaker 2: With banking. Yeah, and Capital One is always like trying
Speaker 2: to push their travel points.
Speaker 1: Oh and it is kind of travel Okay, so it's
Speaker 1: actually about like subliminal europe messaging. I buy that. Okay,
Speaker 1: that actually does kind of make sense to me. What
Speaker 1: was weird about it is.
Speaker 2: And it's like this is a place to hang out,
Speaker 2: like we don't just bank, we're a family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did feel like severe like unfamily vibes going in.
Speaker 1: It was very airport, much more airport than like any start.
Speaker 2: Like an airport.
Speaker 1: I mean, Starbucks has become less and less like nineties
Speaker 1: over time. I feel like they used to be pushing
Speaker 1: lingering more and it was more night like murals of
Speaker 1: like handwriting, and it was so Poet's cafe and like
Speaker 1: the bigger comfy or chairs like Starbucks is way no.
Speaker 2: Starbucks started as I mean, if you look them up
Speaker 2: on Google map, it says nineties Seattle coffee chain.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's not that anymore that they lost their way.
Speaker 2: I have a story about Starbucks, but that happened to
Speaker 2: me today. And this goes to your.
Speaker 1: Getting into a coffee corner. So I but I walk
Speaker 1: in and yeah, it's it's quite cold, it's packed. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of milling about different people. I will say,
Speaker 1: the barista staff there, they're not sending their best Okay,
Speaker 1: they're not the best baristas when they're getting placed out
Speaker 1: of barista school. They're not sending them to the capitol
Speaker 1: One cafe.
Speaker 2: And are they even doing the lattes there?
Speaker 1: They're just like, no, they are, they are. And I'm
Speaker 1: seeing so I'm seeing there's a lot of milling about that.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a girl doing the kind of tink tink
Speaker 1: with the espresso thing in the little right, you know,
Speaker 1: the Scooper and.
Speaker 2: But homeless comedians getting coffee and banks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one is really like putting their whole, their
Speaker 1: whole coffee seat into it and coffee. It's there's this
Speaker 1: like older mom in front of me who is kind
Speaker 1: of like asking about the teas for like a really
Speaker 1: long time and was like so confused with which tea
Speaker 1: she was getting.
Speaker 2: Not asking about that, what teas do you have is
Speaker 2: a question I rarely.
Speaker 1: Ask, and then i'm you're so not tea.
Speaker 2: And then even though if you notice I sound a
Speaker 2: little stuffed up, maybe I should be drinking tea today.
Speaker 2: And I'm just calling it out now. So if you're
Speaker 2: commenting and you're worried.
Speaker 1: Sick, yeah, real it is.
Speaker 2: I'm fine, but I'm working through it.
Speaker 1: So I order a ic chi, which is sort of
Speaker 1: my drink lately, and the Capital Cafe, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: like it's kind of its interview paid like seven sixty
Speaker 1: one for the girl to just pour the like box
Speaker 1: of chi liquid into a glass with milk.
Speaker 2: Wait, that's like Coffee mob Prises, the most expensive coffee
Speaker 2: shop in the United States, my local coffee shop. It's like, sorry,
Speaker 2: Capital One, shouldn't they be pushing lower prices because it's
Speaker 2: like a bang.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my twelve questions substack just went live.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, you know what I have to go. I
Speaker 2: have to go to the Capitol One Cafe with my
Speaker 2: dell and just read here.
Speaker 1: Go read my interview with Gordon Glasgow on his substack.
Speaker 1: When you have a chance. Okay, can't wait to sing
Speaker 1: my teeth into that and do a lot of cross
Speaker 1: promotion at four pm on a Wednesday, So I get
Speaker 1: the chiy anyway, it's sixty one. It's not good. There
Speaker 1: is this whole section set up that's like, wait, let
Speaker 1: me get the copyright. Took a photo. It's learn how
Speaker 1: Capital one can make your holidays cozy and stress free?
Speaker 2: How do they do it?
Speaker 1: And so then you walk up and then there's this
Speaker 1: little like kiosk that says capital when shopping with like
Speaker 1: a camera, and it's like camera activated and you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna have like a photo of you, but it
Speaker 1: just like you walk in front of it, and then
Speaker 1: just like text pubbles pop up, like very pop up
Speaker 1: video style that are just being like deferred payment and
Speaker 1: kind of just being like what a credit card is?
Speaker 2: That's so depressing, like say, what Capital one isn't just
Speaker 2: like have a huge credit card bill in January while
Speaker 2: you put this dollar Chai.
Speaker 1: Also not to be so okay now banking corner and
Speaker 1: I do wanted to get to your Starbucks.
Speaker 2: Also we talked about how I have a heeled savings
Speaker 2: for a couple of one last episode, it's like we're
Speaker 2: being like, oh, how random is it that this whole
Speaker 2: episode is about the Capitol One Cafe. Oh yeah, oh god, yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess they want to talk about their trouble.
Speaker 1: But we're sponsored by Trump sneakers in Capital One. Oh here, okay,
Speaker 1: so my ID set up auto payments on my Chase.
Speaker 1: Now let's take it over to Chase first.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, before we get into making, I have
Speaker 2: to talk about Starbucks.
Speaker 1: All right, I am right, let's pivot.
Speaker 2: Let's pivot because we don't talk about how right Starbucks started,
Speaker 2: the kind of the central perk. It's a chain, but
Speaker 2: it's a big couches. It's nineties. We can all be
Speaker 2: bmex so but all the ones in they are not
Speaker 2: like that anymore. If you go to the if you
Speaker 2: go to Howard Beach, beautiful Irish American, Italian enclav by
Speaker 2: the airport also, you know, kind of by the Rockaway
Speaker 2: Beach and stuff. So maybe if you drive home from
Speaker 2: the beach, you may have passed the most beautiful Starbucks
Speaker 2: in the entire world. Double Deca has a full like
Speaker 2: deck literally on the outdoor deck, outdoor deck like it
Speaker 2: looks like a beautiful suburban home and it looks out
Speaker 2: onto the water the Atlantic Ocean. Wow, that's like it's
Speaker 2: actually so freaking gorgeous.
Speaker 1: So and the upper deck of the Starbucks that right, and.
Speaker 2: It's like there's tons of seating outdoor indoor mixed space.
Speaker 2: So you know, I had noticed that this summer and
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to I want to host
Speaker 2: a kind of the ridiculous like holiday comedy show. And
Speaker 2: so I was like, that would be so kind of
Speaker 2: conceptual if I did it at that Starbucks in Howard Beach,
Speaker 2: like on the second.
Speaker 1: Floor, that would be huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would literally be huge for me the community.
Speaker 2: I think the Howard Beach community comedy my career.
Speaker 1: I would totally go that if I had go to that,
Speaker 1: if I had a flight either before or after.
Speaker 2: So I was like, literally fuck it, like stop dreaming
Speaker 2: and start making moves. Yes, So today I called I
Speaker 2: just called the Starbucks.
Speaker 1: What you called? Like, so, what answered the.
Speaker 2: Howard Beach And it was just like so much, so
Speaker 2: many hibiscus refreshers being made, and it was like, Hello, this
Speaker 2: is my Starbucks. And I was like, Hi, can I
Speaker 2: speak to your manager? And he was like the manager's
Speaker 2: not in and I was like okay, so weird question.
Speaker 2: Do you guys have this events your location.
Speaker 1: And he was like, uh yeah, so the wedding package
Speaker 1: is fifteen grand per hour and that comes with food
Speaker 1: and drink out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, if you want the deluxe Pecan cold Brew package,
Speaker 2: that's actually one hundred and two per person. So he
Speaker 2: did say he was like, uh, not that I know of.
Speaker 1: He was like, I do know.
Speaker 2: We rent out the top floor, but we don't like
Speaker 2: host events.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they probably wouldn't be so like, oh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: down to have a comedy show.
Speaker 2: Right, but they're like, maybe you could like rent it
Speaker 2: out for like your book group or like a retirement coffee.
Speaker 1: Right, and it would be like eight hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which I asked again. I was like, so when
Speaker 2: is the manager gonna be He was like tomorrow around noon.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know. I think paying to
Speaker 2: rent out this top floor of this far Howard Beach
Speaker 2: Starbucks is taking the joke maybe a little too far.
Speaker 2: I agree, But also, like art doesn't stop for anything, I.
Speaker 1: Mean rented out. Like I feel like if you want
Speaker 1: to shoot like a cool video there that's like an
Speaker 1: interesting like outsider art, alternative comedy, like we want to
Speaker 1: make a piece of art. But I think just like
Speaker 1: for this event, right.
Speaker 2: That's not worth it if I want to be really
Speaker 2: performance art. It was just about being like showing up
Speaker 2: and going rogue and like doing Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's also what like most comedy is and
Speaker 1: just be so subway takes and it's called just like
Speaker 1: you have a camera and you're just like so we're
Speaker 1: asking people.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm met, like hosting a show like a live show,
Speaker 2: and we're all there just like doing Starbucks, like drinking
Speaker 2: Starbucks and like, but I could do more of a
Speaker 2: rogue outsider like art film video, but I yeah, my
Speaker 2: idea was to have this more like coffee improv.
Speaker 1: But I guess it could also be so like Chris
Speaker 1: Garthard slash like an e mail comedian, to be just
Speaker 1: like we're having a renegade comedy show on the deck
Speaker 1: of Starbucks until they kick us out, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, and then like you and it is failmed,
Speaker 1: but you do have a weird conversation where they're like,
Speaker 1: well they can be here, but they have to be
Speaker 1: customers and so everyone has to buy a high biscuits refresher.
Speaker 2: Or okay, common below if you will come to Howard beach,
Speaker 2: what day is good for you?
Speaker 1: And kind it depends on my flight schedule, and like see.
Speaker 2: My rogue like pecan coldbrew, like improv show.
Speaker 1: I okay, So I just just to sort of circle
Speaker 1: back to Chase to Chase second here and in credit
Speaker 1: card culture, so I feel stupid and like cut to
Speaker 1: me at thirty seven learning about how finance works and
Speaker 1: misstaw like would have a conniption if she knew this.
Speaker 1: But I had set up automatic payments on my Chase. Okay.
Speaker 1: I goes to go through the seventh of every month. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, I'm opening Chase, and I know and I
Speaker 1: or I know. I'm looking at my TD Bank and
Speaker 1: I say, the money hasn't left the account. It's now
Speaker 1: the thirteenth of November. Huh, No, no money has left
Speaker 1: the account to pay my credit card bill. So I
Speaker 1: go over to Chase and I log in to my
Speaker 1: personal account, not to my business account. And yes we
Speaker 1: do have a business, yes if a business account. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there's this big old balance on the card.
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of like it's supposed to be paid
Speaker 1: off of.
Speaker 2: The big old balance supposed to.
Speaker 1: Be paid off. This tigle this big old tiggle balance
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is supposed to be like
Speaker 1: not there, but it's just sitting there and I'm like,
Speaker 1: supposed to be paid off in the seventh and I look,
Speaker 1: no pain was made in the seventh. So I get
Speaker 1: the phone out, I call Chase. So I'm on the
Speaker 1: phone with them.
Speaker 2: Today is us about calling national corporations and getting someone
Speaker 2: on the phone.
Speaker 1: It's called get some National gets someone on the phone day.
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to this card. Couldn't be lovelier, by
Speaker 1: the way. Really nice guy over there, Chase, And I'm going,
Speaker 1: so I said about it, my pay is wind and
Speaker 1: the payment come out and he goes, oh, well because
Speaker 1: the balance, the previous balance was already paid off. And
Speaker 1: I'm going, but there is a balance on the card.
Speaker 1: And he's going, but the previous statement balance was already
Speaker 1: paid off. And I'm like, but there is a balance
Speaker 1: on the card. And this is when I learn how
Speaker 1: credit cards act work, because I didn't really get it.
Speaker 1: It's like I had made a payment the month before
Speaker 1: in October for like a few thousand dollars or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that I guess had paid this statement which was
Speaker 1: like for September, and so the bill you're getting in
Speaker 1: November is actually like the October statement, which is actually
Speaker 1: like the money you spent in September. So even there's
Speaker 1: this like four thousand dollars balance on the card, that's
Speaker 1: all money that I've spent in the next statement And
Speaker 1: does it need to be paid off until like December
Speaker 1: or whatever, Yeah, which I just think is kind of insane.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why isn't it the money that you've spent recently?
Speaker 1: Like why is it so in the past.
Speaker 2: But I guess that's like you're so allowed to pay it.
Speaker 1: Well I know, but I just it's weird that the
Speaker 1: automatic payment isn't paying what is the balance? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, it's just paying this stuff from a
Speaker 1: month ago. And then it's like, well, you already paid
Speaker 1: a month agoes, you don't need to pay any more.
Speaker 1: And so I get freaked out because it's like I
Speaker 1: don't like seeing this big balance.
Speaker 2: Well, this is also how they get you, because they
Speaker 2: want to like confuse it. I want you to have
Speaker 2: a balance.
Speaker 1: They know they want you to balance, and they want
Speaker 1: to confuse you, Like they design it this way to
Speaker 1: be confusing so that you'll like fuck up because I
Speaker 1: was worried I was going to get charged like interest
Speaker 1: fees for not paying off my balance in time, because
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want to carry a balance and
Speaker 1: then have interest.
Speaker 2: Miss Dow is also sorry, missus Dow, I'm always singleizing.
Speaker 1: Her name ye married married married to.
Speaker 2: The Wait, can we like just go to an opening
Speaker 2: of a stock sometime.
Speaker 1: Like just be there at nine am when they when
Speaker 1: the bell opens for like some random company, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Like watch them be cutters? Like where are the listings
Speaker 2: for like openings? It's like we're always getting invites to
Speaker 2: like a restaurant at a hotel scene launch.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you just answered your.
Speaker 2: Own question of the communities.
Speaker 1: The community that we roll in is not really like
Speaker 1: going public very often.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get text like from our girl
Speaker 2: flyer that's like come to my IPO cutting.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Why isn't company gallery having an IPO big scissors?
Speaker 1: I know, I mean it's like maybe it's like Houser
Speaker 1: and Worth would have an IPO at some point, but
Speaker 1: I don't think we would get invited to that hm.
Speaker 2: But but maybe we would.
Speaker 1: But maybe we would. And so let's actually try to
Speaker 1: make that happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's make that connection because when Carrie is asked
Speaker 2: to ring the bell, oh, it's for.
Speaker 1: For the newspaper that she writes for. Right. Oh well,
Speaker 1: so maybe if Interview magazine goes public.
Speaker 2: Their stock is just like negative, I love.
Speaker 1: You Interview starts a negative.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When Berlin based art magazine Spike goes public.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll be like ringing the bell and you're late.
Speaker 2: You're like, I mean, oh high in.
Speaker 1: Of course, we had to like have our occasional New
Speaker 1: York based freelancer celebrate our German law. Anyway, money is weird.
Speaker 2: Money is so weird, And like I bought a lamp
Speaker 2: at Ikea literally a year ago, speak on it, and
Speaker 2: of course it has like light bulbs that you can
Speaker 2: only buy at Ikea. So I like order some off
Speaker 2: Amazon thinking they're fine. I'm like, these don't fit, and
Speaker 2: then I order the ones also off Ikea. It's this
Speaker 2: white lamp.
Speaker 1: Oh that's like almost the same as my wolscons. I know,
Speaker 1: I know the bulbs you're talking about. It's like they
Speaker 1: are they're very like small industrial but small.
Speaker 2: Yes, And basically for the past year I'm like my
Speaker 2: like mine was like, let's just like sell it or
Speaker 2: get rid of it, like it doesn't work. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm on these forums trying to make it work, and
Speaker 2: everyone's like, well, this lamp is you have to have
Speaker 2: really small ants are tongs to like put the light
Speaker 2: bulbs in it like them.
Speaker 1: You do have a small hands.
Speaker 2: I do have small hands.
Speaker 1: And yet those little rabbit paws can't get in there.
Speaker 2: And like they're in there, and like the light bulbs
Speaker 2: are kind of in there, and I can get them
Speaker 2: to turn on for like a second, but then they
Speaker 2: go out.
Speaker 1: You're just not just like, why don't you just screw
Speaker 1: it in a little bit more? No, it is not happening.
Speaker 2: That's what I Oh, girls, that's what I'm doing. Like
Speaker 2: I spent like an hour or the other day trying
Speaker 2: to twistats.
Speaker 1: Ultimately, you get what you pay for. As a wise
Speaker 1: woman once said, it's just like the ikea lamp. I mean,
Speaker 1: my my ike is gone. Sometimes like flickers in like
Speaker 1: a in like a where's the ghost kind of way,
Speaker 1: and then I remember the ghost is that I paid
Speaker 1: like seven dollars for it.
Speaker 2: This lamp ball say it was one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Huh, yeah, I mean which many.
Speaker 2: I guess like, I'm always shocked when some people are like,
Speaker 2: these pants were such a steal. They were one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: These days, anything that's one hundred fifty dollars is the steel.
Speaker 2: Right, So I'm kind of still thinking, like I put
Speaker 2: down a fortune on this lamp, and like, how much
Speaker 2: longer am I gonna? You know, I give myself maybe
Speaker 2: tonight now that I just wanted to say it aloud,
Speaker 2: because I feel like I've been holding on to this
Speaker 2: like family secret.
Speaker 1: I'm zero for this lamp. We're about to pull the trigger.
Speaker 1: It lights out for your.
Speaker 2: Lamp, literally lights out for my lamp.
Speaker 1: Of wait, speaking of zero dark thirty, should we discuss
Speaker 1: the diplomat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the dimplomat. Are you guys watching
Speaker 2: Harry season two with the Carrie Russell joint?
Speaker 1: Because I am and Mama is as good as ever.
Speaker 2: It's as good as ever and wow, so you know
Speaker 2: how like people are always like, oh, like black person
Speaker 2: is the first person to die in a horror movie?
Speaker 1: Not anymore? Okay, wait, Sylar alert, get ahead if you
Speaker 1: don't want to know what happens this season. But We're
Speaker 1: just gonna have to say it.
Speaker 2: The non binary like foot bow tie like department Ambassador
Speaker 2: secretary is burnt to a Chris.
Speaker 1: I could not believe when they killed the lesbian first.
Speaker 1: I was like, no they didn't, not this poor bow tie,
Speaker 1: but the one character gets killed.
Speaker 2: I was dying the one bow tie. They It's like
Speaker 2: finally because I feel like it's always been so little
Speaker 2: gay assistant.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, the new thing is now having like a
Speaker 1: little non binary lesbian assistant. Right, gay men are dead.
Speaker 1: There's also there's like no gay guys on the show,
Speaker 1: which I also love about this show, although maybe the
Speaker 1: new replacement is he's kind of gay. Coda been in
Speaker 1: a straight like desperate way, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of just more like straight guy who's
Speaker 2: like taking ties.
Speaker 1: Did you notice the funeral when they show the photo
Speaker 1: of her and she's wearing a tea for tea hat.
Speaker 1: Did you did you clock that?
Speaker 2: How did I miss that?
Speaker 1: It was so subtle and quick, But I was like,
Speaker 1: not this like it was like they it was. It
Speaker 1: was very dog whistle. It was just like really tiny
Speaker 1: small tea tea like very just like you bought it
Speaker 1: at a coffee shop in Portland baseball cap and.
Speaker 2: They're like, we're selling coffee beans, pop cookies and really
Speaker 2: tiny tea.
Speaker 1: For tea hats. And now they've made it this whole
Speaker 1: thing where everyone is like so devastated by the loss
Speaker 1: of the boat, too lesbian, and they're all just like
Speaker 1: I can't look at Ronnie's desk, no.
Speaker 2: I know, just being like Ronnie's they're like in the
Speaker 2: hospital and like carry Russell's like Ronnie is not with us,
Speaker 2: and he's like no, no, no, no, Ronnie was in the restaurant,
Speaker 2: like Ronnie.
Speaker 1: Isn't Ronnie is.
Speaker 2: It's gone gone, Okay, it's real, And it's like, of
Speaker 2: course in the first season, I feel like bow Tie
Speaker 2: Ronnie was always just like in a tight bundle and
Speaker 2: keepsup like trying to keep up with people writing notes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: now that they're gone, you're.
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, I know, where's the level. But it's also
Speaker 1: just like I do feel like they were pretty assistant
Speaker 1: vibes and like not like laying laws. No, they weren't
Speaker 1: really like making any decisions or they were almost just
Speaker 1: it was pretty like one step up for getting the coffee.
Speaker 1: It seemed like their role yeah, and also just getting coffee.
Speaker 2: Back to coffee. It was like they're running to the
Speaker 2: Capitol One cafe and like smelling so much coffee themselves.
Speaker 2: I love that they have like a military funeral.
Speaker 1: Yeah, deserve funeral. What I love about this show is
Speaker 1: it continues to be just like Her main personality point
Speaker 1: is being this like stressed frazzle like Liz Lemon, who's
Speaker 1: like always just like, where's my deodorant? No?
Speaker 2: I Her only personality trait is that other people think
Speaker 2: she's really sloppy, and so she's either in a full
Speaker 2: ascid government gown and everyone's like, whoa you clean up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Nice, or she's like in a student always smelling her
Speaker 2: armpits being so like, oh I gotta change.
Speaker 1: What is that? So, As someone who doesn't wear deodorant,
Speaker 1: I'm so like surprised by this idea of like women
Speaker 1: in professional settings constantly meeting too do you yeah, just
Speaker 1: freaking down boots.
Speaker 2: I guess because of like the fucking like patriarchy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like women have to smell nice.
Speaker 1: And they but like are they sweating a lot?
Speaker 2: Like? I know, I honestly have like I've never really
Speaker 2: like met a woman that like has such an odor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like smells like really bad. Same like not in a
Speaker 2: way where it's like to me, women.
Speaker 1: Like don't have a smell at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is they actually well that shows your
Speaker 2: gig is waking in the scent of a woman.
Speaker 1: I just view women like mailboxes. I'm just kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's just not really.
Speaker 2: They don't smell. No, woman smell so beautiful, interesting floral sense.
Speaker 1: It does it, But that's only because they're wearing floral perfume.
Speaker 2: No, but there's there's something else there. I can't explain it.
Speaker 2: I did once tell my girlfriend she smelled, and she
Speaker 2: was like so office and offended and was just like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: She smelled like boh, you were like, girl, get the
Speaker 1: secret up.
Speaker 2: In here, because I was so surprised because it was
Speaker 2: like she usually is so like Dove's secret.
Speaker 1: Like oh okay, and she was like I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: like they were all out of deodorant the deodorant station
Speaker 1: and like the women's work.
Speaker 2: I'm so embarrassed, like I'll never do this again.
Speaker 1: And she is in the like bathroom at the office
Speaker 1: on that little like tufted ouch area with the vanity
Speaker 1: and the women's bathroom when they're all trading.
Speaker 2: Yes, you walking. If you want to know what goes
Speaker 2: on a women's bathroom, it's all women with their dove
Speaker 2: and Secret being like, oh, ladies, I'm using Secret and
Speaker 2: they're like, WHOA, what's that. It's the non stick, non
Speaker 2: smear deodorant for women for all day.
Speaker 1: I do think that there's something about the It's like
Speaker 1: there's a connection between the professionalism of the job and
Speaker 1: the odorant because a, those fabrics are more less breathable, right,
Speaker 1: so she's wearing these like silks and rayons, and excuse me,
Speaker 1: your female cat has something to contribute to the odor conversation.
Speaker 1: Talk about women who smell.
Speaker 2: She smells amazing.
Speaker 1: But so there's this thing of being like, A, I'm
Speaker 1: sweating more because I'm in this like silk chamouze like
Speaker 1: shirt that I've tucked in to my high waisted like
Speaker 1: fupa pants that are making me sweat even more. And
Speaker 1: so the deodorant makes me feel like I'm a even
Speaker 1: more professional because I'm like and also like doing more work.
Speaker 1: Like there's this like rolling up the sleeves thing of
Speaker 1: just being like, I'm working so hard.
Speaker 2: Well, but it's also about like how women have to
Speaker 2: do everything right? How does she do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So it's like the man deodorant commercial is like nineties
Speaker 2: is so like you're in the boardroom and then you're
Speaker 2: working hard at the gym, so obviously you need like
Speaker 2: the strongest deodorant. But woman is so on the go
Speaker 2: because she's like getting coffee and spelling it all over
Speaker 2: her non binary system, going to the office, yes, going
Speaker 2: to pick up and then still has to be sexy yes.
Speaker 2: And that's why like Carrie Russell's character is like it's
Speaker 2: really I think that is why we love the show
Speaker 2: because it is a throwback of like to this nineties
Speaker 2: woman of just so like, oh yeah, I love to
Speaker 2: like ride my fellow ambassador husband's like dick.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also like I'm sassy and I'm all in it for
Speaker 2: the job. I'm not some like hot politician. And have
Speaker 2: you gotten to Alison Jenny yet? No?
Speaker 1: Why are you spoiling that?
Speaker 2: I told you it was a blur. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know where you are.
Speaker 1: The episode I just watched is the one where they're
Speaker 1: in Scotland and the PM like maybe or maybe not
Speaker 1: like kills that like old MP, but don't tell me
Speaker 1: what happens with that. That's like the episode of But
Speaker 1: I like what I love what's interested about the show
Speaker 1: is it's such a like fantasy of like a bygone
Speaker 1: liberalism that's like you know, values, expertise, and like everything
Speaker 1: that seems like is over in the Trump era, where
Speaker 1: it's like he's putting this like insanely like hot guy
Speaker 1: who's a Fox and Friends weekend co host as like
Speaker 1: literally the Secretary of Defense, although to be frank, cabinet
Speaker 1: members are always kind of like almost ceremonial positions and like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like cabinet members are always so well and
Speaker 2: also ambassadorships are always just like something you give to
Speaker 2: your donors, like no calistic Gingrich is faster, and that's
Speaker 2: under Trump.
Speaker 1: But it's like so her Like the fantasy of the
Speaker 1: ambassador being this person who's like incredibly like skilled and
Speaker 1: like knowledgeable and is also in the middle of like
Speaker 1: all these crises and actually doing things is so it
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, but I feel like even Clinton, it's
Speaker 1: like I feel like it's this thing that has actually
Speaker 1: never existed and it's like longing for it.
Speaker 2: I think they needed to do that because they were
Speaker 2: like let's give her a job where she can do
Speaker 2: a lot of different jobs and no one can really
Speaker 2: be like, that's not what an ambassador does.
Speaker 1: M this is so true.
Speaker 2: So they can be like, yeah, of course an ambassador
Speaker 2: has like been to Afghanistan and like maybe did like
Speaker 2: set off a bomb like like in Albania. But also
Speaker 2: like she's at a gala. Yeah, and you're like, okay, period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, I guess this could happen through this
Speaker 1: like conceivable element to it.
Speaker 2: I just in the relationship with her husband so funny
Speaker 2: because it's like they're both these just like hot head, stubborn,
Speaker 2: you know, politicodes, but they're so like horny for each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're they're a horny for the love of
Speaker 1: the game. I mean I did like I think there's
Speaker 1: they're doing some things quite well. Like I liked how
Speaker 1: her deputy, the tall black guy, how he gets like
Speaker 1: really annoyed post Ronnie and is like blaming her for
Speaker 1: running and like because I was watching the show being
Speaker 1: like he's been really annoying, and then that actually was
Speaker 1: a platform where they were like, yeah, he's becoming really
Speaker 1: annoying and he needs to like reel it in because.
Speaker 2: He's he's annoyed at her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and I like this thing where he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, the Wilers are so cool, like they
Speaker 1: drink Lama's blood, like they're being friend they're paladining rama
Speaker 1: terrists and they're like so this like he's talking about
Speaker 1: how they are this Clintonian fantasy of the globe trotting
Speaker 1: diplomat who is like.
Speaker 2: He spends a lot of money.
Speaker 1: He spent like best friends with the Saudi's and like
Speaker 1: so like you know, is camping out with the Taliban,
Speaker 1: but it's like also going to Gallas and is and
Speaker 1: like running guns like in Somalia, and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. But guess what happens. You try to
Speaker 1: get involved in everything and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you you're non binary assistant, gets dialed by a bomb
Speaker 1: because you're having so much fun.
Speaker 2: This job is fucking glamorous until the non binary.
Speaker 1: Assistant right gets murdered and it's like maybe by the
Speaker 1: Scottish pregnant and maybe you should be the calistic gingrich
Speaker 1: and just being like another beautiful day in Rome and
Speaker 1: like have no idea what's going on, and like be
Speaker 1: doing that like.
Speaker 2: I wish calistic Gingridge was just like actually like in Rome,
Speaker 2: like just like with like in the War Room.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, are we confusing calistic ganguige with Sydney mc
Speaker 1: oh with Cindey.
Speaker 2: McCain Megan McCain's mom, Cindy McCain, Sindey McKay. But I
Speaker 2: think Callista is also.
Speaker 1: But she's also like an ambasador ambassador.
Speaker 3: They are.
Speaker 2: Keen is like I want to say, she like does something.
Speaker 1: With feel like now she's like the UN Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she was the US ambassador to the United Nations Agency
Speaker 1: for Food and Agriculture and now she's the executive director
Speaker 1: of the World Food Program. And this is why I
Speaker 1: want to get a master's degree.
Speaker 2: Well, I was saying, I think Carrie Russell play she
Speaker 2: is not having your dream career. The roles she plays
Speaker 2: are your dream career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, but it's like if I want It's like
Speaker 1: the thing is the actual route to ambassadorship is just
Speaker 1: to be like a well connected donor or just like
Speaker 1: a kind of do nothing governor who retires like you're
Speaker 1: fucking what's his name? Our Massachusetts guy who became the
Speaker 1: New Zealand senator or new Zealand ambassador Bill Weld. No,
Speaker 1: the new the Hawk guy. What was his name?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh rats Scott Brown.
Speaker 2: Scott Brown. Yeah, you have to be given. They're like, ooh,
Speaker 2: we should like give Scott Brown something. When speaking of
Speaker 2: Megan McCain, I've started reading her substack.
Speaker 1: Everyone has a fucking substack.
Speaker 2: It's like, wow, the world is really over when Meghan
Speaker 2: McCain has a stack.
Speaker 1: Wait, you know this is so funny. You know you're right,
Speaker 1: and you're right. Callista Greenwich was the ambassador to the
Speaker 1: Holy See aka the Vatican.
Speaker 2: Oh, the Holy Seat.
Speaker 1: Is so funny. Foundation that she wears is.
Speaker 2: So crazy because she always is looking like she's like
Speaker 2: photoshopped on a vespa in the Vatican.
Speaker 1: And then she's with Newt who's like always actively having
Speaker 1: a stroke. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they're like at some like really cheesy like restaurant
Speaker 2: in Rome.
Speaker 1: They're very like going to like Hillstone in Rome. Have
Speaker 1: you ever been to Hillstone?
Speaker 2: I've never been to Hillstone?
Speaker 1: Have you? No? I do want to go because like
Speaker 1: it is so like airport and cheesy and but like.
Speaker 2: Like it's so bert like grunch, like cat Ca listic grune.
Speaker 2: Like it's very like TikTok of, just like seeds are
Speaker 2: solid and a huge martini glass grunch, I'm having caught
Speaker 2: you a peppe like in a seeds are solid in
Speaker 2: a martini in an operao spreads, Okay, Meggan McCaine substack.
Speaker 2: She was like, here are things I learned, like by
Speaker 2: forty and she's trying to do her like things she's learned,
Speaker 2: and she's like magnetic onesies for babies, trust me, Like okay,
Speaker 2: and she's like Anthony Bourdein said it right, spicy Sesshuan
Speaker 2: food is the best thing for a hangover.
Speaker 1: For the insight, she's actually wrong about that. The best
Speaker 1: thing for a hangover is half a zen axe.
Speaker 2: Mama, I don't do pills personally.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like Meghan? I feel like Meggan McCain
Speaker 1: isn't san calistic. Gingrich is definitely zandou.
Speaker 2: Oh she's on. She's on the she's very like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's on the substance. But it's like she's just trading
Speaker 2: with like someone like another random mom in Scottsdale.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only like taking ten years off and she's
Speaker 1: just looking even more like Boca.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm like, ooh, can I do the substance, but
Speaker 2: just trade with a twenty nine year old butch Yeah.
Speaker 1: Meghan McCain has like been struggling to find her voice
Speaker 1: for the past like since basically ever, like she because
Speaker 1: her only thing is just being her father's daughter. And
Speaker 1: it's like she's still just being like I'm a never Trumper,
Speaker 1: but I am a Republican and like fuck the Libs
Speaker 1: and I love my husband who makes me like gross
Speaker 1: chicken and rice, but like I'm a commentator and like
Speaker 1: I don't really have any opinions, but like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kept on like she be fucked with. She
Speaker 2: kept on being like right, She's like I'm a rebel,
Speaker 2: like cure me roar, like I've been warning you guys,
Speaker 2: like conservatives are back. But I was like, okay, but
Speaker 2: your ultimate never trumper. But she's being like so like
Speaker 2: my good friend like Kamala just like supporters said, and
Speaker 2: you're like, well, so what is your opinion though?
Speaker 1: And then she's just not literally having a single opinion
Speaker 1: other than magnetic onesI.
Speaker 2: And then is like, do not talk about my father
Speaker 2: on this election day. Here are photos of me and
Speaker 2: my father like from like and it's like, okay, this
Speaker 2: election isn't about you and your.
Speaker 1: Dad, and like at the end of the day, like,
Speaker 1: at some point, we have to stop making this about
Speaker 1: your dad. Yeah, you know, and again maybe it is
Speaker 1: everything is about John McCain.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Megan, And then oh yeah, and then she had
Speaker 2: like she was like make my election day special enchiladas
Speaker 2: and just linked to like a random mommy blog. It's like,
Speaker 2: you don't even have your own recipe for your election enceladas.
Speaker 1: That's soriba wh y'all will be hearing on the main
Speaker 1: a in a few weeks. Who is like honestly sharing
Speaker 1: other folks recipes in her cookbook. And maybe there's something
Speaker 1: to be said for Megan McCain's honesty.
Speaker 2: Right, that's true, and maybe we don't all need our
Speaker 2: own recipe and just pretend. But I will absolutely continue.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna subscribe, but I will continue to read
Speaker 2: Meghan your substack because I'm just curious to see where
Speaker 2: you're gonna just where you're gonna take it to your
Speaker 2: morning pages. Did you see incomplete and random celebrity news
Speaker 2: that I sent you this? This Kevin Costner was like
Speaker 2: flirting with someone super random at the Yellowstone four b premiere.
Speaker 1: Oh wait what okay, they were like Yellowstone season five B,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, five B, what is this? What is
Speaker 1: this a gate? What terminal? Are we at?
Speaker 2: Very terminal? D? Yellowstone five be. You know, I've only
Speaker 2: watched one episode of Yellowstone because I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: maybe I should get into this.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. It seems like the most huge show.
Speaker 2: Right, And then I was like, this is actually so boring.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, like not, It's not like Lifetime like where
Speaker 1: it's like so like funny and like totally ridiculous. It's
Speaker 1: actually just like slow.
Speaker 2: It was pretty slow, and it was like building secrets
Speaker 2: and tension amongst men come.
Speaker 1: And corosser parties, seitd up and MSc with athlete Rainy
Speaker 1: Castanata Rainy as in like it's it's a rainy Days,
Speaker 1: that is how it's spelled. And he does look fucking delicious,
Speaker 1: I will say, in this turtleneck and like black kind
Speaker 1: of elbows, costello glasses, and he's recently divorced. He looks
Speaker 1: so divorced. He almost has like chops.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got like mutton chops.
Speaker 1: He looks hot, he looked gay and hot.
Speaker 2: He's looking fucking good. Well, he dated his rebound was Jewel,
Speaker 2: and I guess that didn't that ended.
Speaker 1: Wait, Jewels not single. I mean Jewel is single now, No,
Speaker 1: I mean kept right, But it was weird that she
Speaker 1: was single enough to date Kevin Costner that.
Speaker 2: She isn't single enough. She was married to like also
Speaker 2: like a rodeo man, and they have like joint custody
Speaker 2: of their son. She lives in Alaska or something. But yeah,
Speaker 2: she's divorced.
Speaker 1: I'm sad they didn't work out because that's hot to me.
Speaker 2: I know, isn't that such a hot couple.
Speaker 1: But I guess like heat's really it's raining pussy no
Speaker 1: pun intended for him, and he killed because rainy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he was like too off, too
Speaker 2: hot off the divorce. Yeah, like if him and Jewel
Speaker 2: like were to have a fucking chance.
Speaker 1: He would need to get his jolly's off first and
Speaker 1: then give into it.
Speaker 2: But it seems like he's just getting his jolli's off
Speaker 2: with these mutton chops. Those mutton chops say, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Swear In Celebrity Corner, should we discuss my Anna gas
Speaker 1: Styre run in Yeah, I was watching What you missed
Speaker 1: by fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: That's what happens when you're late, you guys.
Speaker 1: So I got to the iHeart Studio to record her
Speaker 1: infamous podcast, and our good good friends Matt Rogers and
Speaker 1: Bow and Yang we're finishing their show with Anna Gastyr
Speaker 1: in the same studio that we record in, and so
Speaker 1: they're kind of coming now. We're all like saying hello
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, and she's been so she's in
Speaker 1: like denim jacket bangs, really bangs, Mama bangs. Okay, like
Speaker 1: dark dark eye makeup, not like like so smoky that
Speaker 1: it's almost like can you see raccoon base? But it
Speaker 1: wasn't so raccoon where it's like at like a harsh
Speaker 1: line where it's like thick and like cat I. It
Speaker 1: was just like smoky, smoky, smudgy, smudgy, smudgie. And she
Speaker 1: also like is a squinter and she's like always like squinting,
Speaker 1: so it was like yeah, with the squint and the smokey,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like can you see? And then
Speaker 1: she's in denim jacket, like tight jeans I bet skinnies,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like skin tight, and she had like thirty handlers.
Speaker 1: They had thirty handlers. I had thirty handlers. I was
Speaker 1: the least handled person.
Speaker 2: Not handled at all, but someone who needs a handler.
Speaker 1: And I was kind of like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: make a big deal out of it, so I said
Speaker 1: to Matt. I was just like, oh, like, it's so
Speaker 1: funny because I just saw a mattress like the other week.
Speaker 1: I because she's in Once Upon a Mattress on Broadway,
Speaker 1: which I'd see with my parents like two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: which is like such a coincidence with Sutton Foster and
Speaker 1: she plays the Queen. Sutton Foster plays the princess.
Speaker 2: Uh okay, Sutton Foster, who's the new beard for a
Speaker 2: huge jet.
Speaker 1: Um, which is also we need to get into by
Speaker 1: the way, was so incredible and I was like, you
Speaker 1: are our generation's Lucilla Ball, like I get what I
Speaker 1: love you. Yeah, or Anna Sutton Ston was incredible, like
Speaker 1: Sutton delivered the house down.
Speaker 2: Boot like see, this is why you need to watch Younger.
Speaker 1: No, I'm and what's funny is it's like even watching
Speaker 1: her on Broadway, I was like, what age is she?
Speaker 1: I'm like again, hold on, I'm being tricked. I am
Speaker 1: being tricked, Like we're all being tricked by her age.
Speaker 1: That's why she was the perfect cassengers for that show.
Speaker 1: But I don't think the TV show is really like
Speaker 1: was able to showcase her talents, like she's such a
Speaker 1: physical comedi yan like as my dad hornerly said, she's
Speaker 1: so limber, but she was. She was really like all
Speaker 1: over the stage and like just the movements, the sharpness
Speaker 1: of the movements, like the exaggeration, the timy, like really
Speaker 1: old school, like I'm telling you, loose in school, Like
Speaker 1: no one is doing it like her. I really felt transported.
Speaker 1: It was such a thrill to watch. And anyway, and
Speaker 1: I guess I was in it too. She's fine, she's great,
Speaker 1: she's you know, she's not her Sutton Foster show. But
Speaker 1: so I say, so I say to Matt, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I just saw her a mattress because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to kind of like just be casual and pretend
Speaker 1: like I.
Speaker 2: See so literally yeah, like so chill.
Speaker 1: And then Matt was like, oh, that's that's funny, like
Speaker 1: blah blah. And then she kind of like is moving
Speaker 1: into the conversation with me and Bowen and like she
Speaker 1: was being very celebrity like I'm so busy, I have
Speaker 1: to go to a thousand things. And what I did
Speaker 1: here from my producers that she was forty five minutes
Speaker 1: late because her people sent her to like the wrong
Speaker 1: photo shoot or something, okay, And then I said to her,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no. And then I said to
Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, you know, I was in.
Speaker 1: I was in Mattress in high school. And then he
Speaker 1: goes to her, oh, he was in Mattress in high school.
Speaker 1: So he kind of like did okay.
Speaker 2: I was trying to bring her ge. He was throwing you.
Speaker 1: He was giving me the grace of not having to
Speaker 1: be like, oh ah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was, I'm gay, I'm a gay guy. I was,
Speaker 2: I was in. I was in Mattress.
Speaker 1: So and then she was like oh like and she
Speaker 1: was like, and what were you? And I was just
Speaker 1: like the jester and and she just goes points to
Speaker 1: all three of us. She goes, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of gesters.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you got a lot of faggots.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then she was like, oh, Matt, you made
Speaker 1: such a good point about how like comedians are like
Speaker 1: the gesters of today. And I was a little like
Speaker 1: that does seem like not that I don't think he
Speaker 1: was probably making it like this is groundbreaking, but she
Speaker 1: was kind of acting like it was a groundbreaking crazy
Speaker 1: and I was like, how did that not occur to you?
Speaker 2: Baby, world famous comedian.
Speaker 1: And you've never thought like I never kind of connected
Speaker 1: that thought. But is that all?
Speaker 2: Like is it also just like middle aged celebrity whenever
Speaker 2: she's just being so like it's so interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very mom Anyway, she was fine. I
Speaker 1: didn't get excessively warm vibes from her, but she looked great.
Speaker 2: Leaving the interview, she'd give it a lot.
Speaker 1: Probably no, she left it all on the I Heart counter.
Speaker 2: And by the way, when we got in the studio,
Speaker 2: no one had touched their water.
Speaker 1: That was the shocker of the century.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm slurping maybe water.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's this thing though where it's like the celebrity
Speaker 1: doesn't touch the water and so then you feel we're
Speaker 1: touching the water and you're waiting for her because it's power,
Speaker 1: and so then just it was this kind of standoff
Speaker 1: and then just no one touched the water.
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense because it's like then you're
Speaker 2: seeming like this like weird, thirsty person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would have just gone right ahead
Speaker 1: and then slurping it down. And if I'd finished mine,
Speaker 1: I would have said, and I want to you hand
Speaker 1: me that water because it looks like you're not going
Speaker 1: to touch it.
Speaker 2: You're taking her water. Yeah, it's very when Kamala to
Speaker 2: throw it back to the before times two weeks ago,
Speaker 2: when Kamala was on Shannon's podcast and his whole thing,
Speaker 2: Shannon what's his name? Like the Shannon Show? His name
Speaker 2: is Shannon who that like wait that like your uber
Speaker 2: driver that podcast you were listening to, Oh Sha sheha
Speaker 2: club sha yeah, club club shashe but his name is
Speaker 2: Shannon because she was being so like Shannon. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: his whole thing is being very like airport male lounge
Speaker 2: and like has like everyone has like a whiskey need. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she like toasted him on the pod, but then
Speaker 2: was like set out loud. She wasn't going to drink it.
Speaker 2: It's just it's such a awkward thing to do. It's
Speaker 2: just kind of like no celebrities like drink the drink
Speaker 2: in an interview, just like don't drink it. But she
Speaker 2: was like, and I'm not going to drink this because
Speaker 2: I'm meeting with Baraque after this, and I'm gonna fall
Speaker 2: asleep if I do drink this, And you're like, what.
Speaker 1: A metaphor for her, I know, for her vision for America,
Speaker 1: Just like I'm going to tell you that I'm not
Speaker 1: drinking whiskey, but I'll hold it.
Speaker 2: But I'll hold it and like laugh about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm going to tell you that I will
Speaker 1: not stop army in Israel but I but I will
Speaker 1: laugh about it and continue to.
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel self con lack of plastic bag?
Speaker 2: Do you have the fear at a restaurant and you
Speaker 2: realized maybe this is me. You've you've had more of
Speaker 2: your drink or you've you've finished.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Can we talk about the unspoken humiliation? And I'm the
Speaker 4: only one of the of the drink level noticing and
Speaker 4: how we're all doing it?
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you wrong, I'm not crazy here.
Speaker 1: No, I'm constantly checking to see where everyone else's level
Speaker 1: is at, because you never want to be the lowest level. No,
Speaker 1: but then at the same time someone has to be
Speaker 1: someone has to move it along. So it's like when
Speaker 1: you're the highest level, you feel like on top of
Speaker 1: the world. You're like, oh my god, I'm a am
Speaker 1: sober b I.
Speaker 2: I'm the healthiest person in the entire world.
Speaker 1: Like, I have no addictive qualities to my personality. I'm
Speaker 1: so in the moment and enrapturing conversation. I even notice
Speaker 1: my right.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm also really fun because like I'm actually just
Speaker 2: laughing so much and talking so much. I haven't even
Speaker 2: had a chance. But I'm also still fun because I'm
Speaker 2: ordered a good drink.
Speaker 1: And then when you see that it's lower than everyone
Speaker 1: else is, You're like, oh, so they all think they're
Speaker 1: so much better than me.
Speaker 2: I'm just like fucking like whine no.
Speaker 1: But I start to get really resentful for the sense
Speaker 1: of superiority that I imagine everyone else has looking at
Speaker 1: me with my near empty alcoholics glass.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're superiority, but I'm like then I
Speaker 2: started to get self conscious. I'm like, oh, does everyone
Speaker 2: know I have like two more SIPs left? There's every
Speaker 2: fun fucking no, now they.
Speaker 1: Know every know you're on the razor's edge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like intervention, let's call it. Yeah, it's really
Speaker 2: really And then you start to slow down. But then
Speaker 2: you're like, well, what's actually the point.
Speaker 1: Well, and especially once you get towards the end, because
Speaker 1: I also feel I feel pity for the person who's
Speaker 1: nursing the watery like you know, centimeter of backwash of
Speaker 1: the drink, acting like they're not done with the drink.
Speaker 1: I'm like, who are you kidding? Yeah, like that almost
Speaker 1: a just you want another round even more than I do.
Speaker 2: Right, because you're like, oh no, let me let me save.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're desperately trying to like to squeeze it out,
Speaker 1: to like to to stretch it.
Speaker 2: And it's totally I mean, there's also there's wine, and
Speaker 2: if you're being red wine, you're kind of being like, hmm,
Speaker 2: swirling wine.
Speaker 1: Is this whole other situation because you can get refills
Speaker 1: on wine, and then it throws the entire math out
Speaker 1: of sink because now you don't know you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: how much have they had, because maybe they've had a
Speaker 1: refill or a slight refiller. It's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: if you get a bottle out of rest, if you've
Speaker 1: got a bottle of glass and they're refilling the glass,
Speaker 1: then then it throws everything out of whack and like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the surveillance aspect is kind of
Speaker 1: torqued well.
Speaker 2: Right, because if you finish and then the person fills
Speaker 2: your glass and then you realize, oh, I'm on my then.
Speaker 1: You you know, but it's less, but you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: you can't surveil others with the same kind of vias
Speaker 1: in accuracy. So even though you know, they could be
Speaker 1: on their fifth glass or they could be on their first,
Speaker 1: and so then you're looking at them and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: are they so smug on their first? Are they getting
Speaker 1: away with murder? On their fifth?
Speaker 2: They about to pass out?
Speaker 1: Which just kind of throws into stark relief, the idea
Speaker 1: that we're really only viewing our own drinking habits in
Speaker 1: relation to others, and without that comparison, where do we stand?
Speaker 2: Where do you stand when it's just you know, you.
Speaker 1: And the bottle and a mirror.
Speaker 2: In the bottle, you in the bottle. What's that big
Speaker 2: bad voodoo Daddy song? Right?
Speaker 1: That's cherry Poppin' that's.
Speaker 2: Cherry Poppin' Daddy's get.
Speaker 1: Your ska history? Right? What is the big bad song?
Speaker 2: But if it's it's if it's a chilled up drink,
Speaker 2: then I think it's like, yeah, Well, drink it.
Speaker 1: If it's chilled and up, drink it. But also if
Speaker 1: it's chilled and ice, drink it, because it's like then
Speaker 1: at the end it's just all it's just getting too watery.
Speaker 2: Well, but if it's like a beautiful like whiskey on ice,
Speaker 2: I don't mind that because then it kind of waters
Speaker 2: it down.
Speaker 1: The night my boyfriend made me a gold rush.
Speaker 2: The other night, pray tell what is a gold rush?
Speaker 1: We bought some Mictor's bourbon at the store. Awesome gold rush.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we like to try a new bourbon every week. Actually, oh,
Speaker 2: I just got a calendar notification for a concert or
Speaker 2: sceying tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Lily, stop telling everyone our businesss Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's bourbon honey syrup, and the honey syrup is
Speaker 1: at like a two to one ratio of like honey
Speaker 1: of water or whatever, okay, and lemon juice. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, uh.
Speaker 2: Kind of a whiskey sour. Whiskey honey sour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's somewhere between like a whiskey sour on
Speaker 1: an old fashion but it's really nice. What the honey
Speaker 1: gives it a nice thickness and mouthfeel that's super you're
Speaker 1: making a scared face. I pretend to be so afraid
Speaker 1: of honey. But you love honey, you love it. You
Speaker 1: love fireball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that has a culture and a history. And
Speaker 2: that's not even honey, that's chemicals. It's about doing fireball.
Speaker 2: Shaltz Schultz. I always invoke the the Auntie Mame scene
Speaker 2: when Auntie Mame goes to visit her nouveau reche possible
Speaker 2: in laws and he makes her a drink and he's like, well,
Speaker 2: it's my secret ingredient you might want to know, and
Speaker 2: she's so like bo Ho and just like loves martinis
Speaker 2: and the secret ingredient in his cocktail is honey, and
Speaker 2: she like throws it away and she's like, it's discussing.
Speaker 1: Oh, so that's what this is. This is just your
Speaker 1: kind of like learned classism from your father via auntie name.
Speaker 2: And yeah, well, I mean the people in that are
Speaker 2: like richer than her, but they're like basics.
Speaker 1: Right, and you're not a fucking basic anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my learns, like bo Ho classism. I guess
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm not a huge honeyhead. I'm
Speaker 2: no Winny the Poo over here, but I can imagine
Speaker 2: whiskey and honey of course go together.
Speaker 1: What I what I like about this drink is like
Speaker 1: an old fashioned. I love an old fashioned obviously, but
Speaker 1: you know, this stretches it. As we're talking, it makes
Speaker 1: there's more liquid content because you're adding in the lemon
Speaker 1: juice and.
Speaker 2: But stretcher alcohol.
Speaker 1: Stretch your alcohol.
Speaker 2: That's how we keep our cups filled.
Speaker 1: But honey, I really love the mouthfeel. I like that
Speaker 1: thickness that you're getting and the fatures do. It was
Speaker 1: a wonderful bourbon. Say, not quite as amazing as Blanton's,
Speaker 1: which is my new favorite bourbon me and Reba.
Speaker 2: Maketure's is really good. But I know, I guess I was.
Speaker 2: I was drinking a ginger beer, just non alcoholic yesterday
Speaker 2: that my sister brought me and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is so sweet. And I looked at the bottle
Speaker 2: and it was like I was like, oh, it's made
Speaker 2: with honey. So i've this comes from Malta last night
Speaker 2: of me being like, ugh, honey.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, you're you're on like an anti honey tip
Speaker 1: and that's okay, even though like we're all in different
Speaker 1: places with honey right now, like.
Speaker 2: The weather's changing and I actually should have some like
Speaker 2: honey and lemon water right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I think a little honey might do
Speaker 1: a good mama with that.
Speaker 2: But I love the name of that cocktail and like
Speaker 2: I'm open to it sounds like something from Wait, MAYA
Speaker 2: got be this? Which I do want to start making
Speaker 2: this in saying nineteen sixties recipe box of cocktails, and
Speaker 2: everything is so like in it, and it has each
Speaker 2: It's like a little roll index box with all these
Speaker 2: little cars, and everything is so like the gold Rush,
Speaker 2: like Planter's plum punch, like the Bachelorette score, and everything
Speaker 2: is like crem dementth honey pig and whiskey.
Speaker 1: Pig, just straight up pig.
Speaker 2: So that will be something really fun to try kind
Speaker 2: of for the winter new cocktail. What are you guys drinking?
Speaker 2: Leave it in the comments.
Speaker 1: What are you stepping on? Wait? Did you try the
Speaker 1: Chicken Big Mac? Or no? So?
Speaker 2: No? Yeah, I texted you last night being like, should
Speaker 2: I try the Chicken Big Mac till I talk about
Speaker 2: the VIP lounge And just like for COT, I've been
Speaker 2: curious and I was like picking up a laundry, and
Speaker 2: I was hungry, and I was like, I could walk
Speaker 2: to McDonald's right now and get it. But I had
Speaker 2: just like tofu and rice at home, and like we
Speaker 2: just made all these ribs for the riba recipe, and
Speaker 2: I was kind of just like, eat at home. Here's
Speaker 2: the thing with the chicken big Mac, which I want
Speaker 2: to try, but also what is keeping me away from it?
Speaker 2: I think it's the uniform color.
Speaker 1: Because the chicken is not enough of a contrast with
Speaker 1: with the bun. The bun and yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing about m chicken. It's
Speaker 1: just the amount of it.
Speaker 2: It's I think, right me chicken, You're like, oh, it's
Speaker 2: a chicken. You see the pickle, you see the lettuce,
Speaker 2: and you're just seeing this tall, beige stack. And I'm
Speaker 2: a little bit like, Okay, I don't need to eat
Speaker 2: this like couch Like sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm not jd vance. Yeah no, I I hear you,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, Mama. That's gonna be a fucking truth
Speaker 1: bomb that was just dropped in the chat. I was
Speaker 1: deterred by the price. When I went to McDonald's today.
Speaker 1: It was ten dollars and I was just like the fuck,
Speaker 1: that's insane.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is so much, mind you right,
Speaker 2: not for the meal, for this sandwich, because.
Speaker 1: Like the Big Mac has already been like seven sixty
Speaker 1: one for the sandwich. And then they were just like
Speaker 1: and the chicken by Mac, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: go fuck yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like we know it's made of horse anyway, make
Speaker 2: it six it's horse chicken.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I actually was looking at the combo because
Speaker 1: AI is telling me that it's six nineteen or a
Speaker 1: chowhound is saying it's six nineteen. But where it's like
Speaker 1: in New York, it's more expensive. I don't know. Still
Speaker 1: that's a lot.
Speaker 2: Well it is that thing, like you know, and like
Speaker 2: even at of like a rest up on the highway,
Speaker 2: McDonald's is more expensive in an airport way. Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: see on uber eats how much it is. I think. Also,
Speaker 2: maybe I'll try it if it's like I'm in the
Speaker 2: car and I stop at a drive through. But just
Speaker 2: like walking to the McDonald on a beautiful day on
Speaker 2: Coney Island Avenue.
Speaker 1: On your way to a comedy show at the Storebucks
Speaker 1: upper Deck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, let's let's I was like let's
Speaker 2: say this for another day. Even though I will do
Speaker 2: anything for you guys, and anything you want me to try,
Speaker 2: I will. Okay McDonald's let's see, we're the new try guys,
Speaker 2: delivered searching. Okay, got it earliest arrival able quarter pound
Speaker 2: er chicken oh fourteen seventy nine for the meal. So
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong.
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Speaker 2: we met Tulsey in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: Where is that last episode? Maybe we'll kind of like
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Speaker 1: I feel like we've covered a lot.
Speaker 2: I think we have food, culture, emotion, banking.
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Speaker 1: and sociology. Anything you want to post?
Speaker 2: Anything I want to plug? Yeah, come to the Starbucks
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Speaker 1: Out the month, block it out. No plans, no.
Speaker 2: Plans, anything you want to plug. You mentioned that you're
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just I wrote. I mean it's everybody
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Speaker 2: On a subject, you answer your own question.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if Giotto has tried the Chicken Big Mac.
Speaker 2: Probably not, not.
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