1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: The volume. Okay, now that we've wrapped up all the 2 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: college games, I thought I would I would call my 3 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: guy out of the bullpen. Haven't talked to him in 4 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: a minute. I saw that he was in Glendale at 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: the Penn State Boise State game. My Mountain West squad. 6 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, they're gritty game. Was they hung tough? We'll 7 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: dive into that obviously. Notre Dame literally just one. I 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say, one of the biggest wins 9 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: in a long long time for that program. And now 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: they play because of the game being pushed back in 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: less than a week. So today is gonna be mainly 12 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: college football. We'll have a I talked to Stucky. We'll 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: have that video come out on Saturday talking about all 14 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: the NFL games, which is, you know, some of these 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: games it's hard to who the hell knows who's playing, 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: but there are a couple of games that really matter. 17 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: So we got a gamble on a little bit actually 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of like I mean, I talked to Stucky about 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: it and I looked at it again. After Notre Dame, 20 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: which is somehow favored against Penn State, you can get 21 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: Penn State right now to win the Natty so basically like, 22 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: can they beat Ohio State at almost five to one? 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: It was five to one earlier in the day. It 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: was plus four seventy five when I just checked. Somehow, 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: I still don't understand how they're an underdog to Notre Dame. 26 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: They get extra rest. But we'll have a week to 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: take that all in. We got a lot of big 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: football because these two games are Thursday and Friday. Then 29 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs are Saturday, Sunday and Monday. We got 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: coaches getting fired next week, so we got a lot 31 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: going on. But before we dive into Jackson and talk 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame Fighting Irish, you know, I gotta tell 33 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: you about my friends, my partners, and the official ticketing 34 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: gap of this podcast game time. Do you want to 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: go to one of these games? Do you want to 36 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: go to a concert? Do you want to go enjoy yourself? 37 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Get out of your home? I would if I wasn't 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: sick as a dog, But luckily I'm tough and I'm 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: able to podcast. 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If I had 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: pretty good teams, a lot of good NFL players, But 56 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: you finally won a game that a lot of people 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: watched that let's face it, most people thought you would 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: end up losing somehow, some way, and even early on 59 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: in this game, it's like, ah, I don't know, and 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: then that sack happened, the touchdown happened, then they came 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: and return the kick, and then I would say the 62 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: game kind of ended right there. But congratulations Jackson, Congratulations. 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: It's gotta feel good. 64 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm fired up, man. You know this is the same team. 65 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: And I know people always talk about the NIU loss, 66 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: but you got to give a lot of credit to 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman. 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: Man. 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: I don't know a lot of coaches out there that 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: can get their quarterback in check. And they've come out 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: with on Peacock, Here comes the Iris like a documentary, 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: hard knock style, and they kind of went in on 73 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: Riley Leonard and you know him looking at his phone, 74 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: looking at Twitter and all this social media stuff, which 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks are eliminating during the season, and 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: for him to turn around and for them to go 77 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: towards their strengths and you could argue a better Georgia 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: with Gunner Stockton's It's an impressive win for sure. 79 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: He like looked at Twitter to see people talking crap 80 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: about him, basically, I think. 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: So, I mean it's tough like when you're I mean 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: social media nowadays, you know too, it gets everywhere, whether 83 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 3: you want to see it on Instagram or Twitter or wherever. 84 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: You know you're gonna have it in front of you. 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: So but yeah, no, that when you texted me, I 86 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: think at like five point thirty when they're driving and 87 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: it was like a long third down or whatever, and 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: you're like, I think you got this might be your knight. 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: And I just telling Zero, I text you I think 90 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: it was. Was it twenty to ten? No, maybe it 91 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: was twenty to three, and Gunner stocked in unleashes one 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: to eighty six, and all of a sudden, the ball's 93 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: in the air and he's wide open, and you're like, 94 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: oh my god, I don't know if he's gonna score. 95 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: The dB might have caught him, but he would have 96 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: been inside the ten. It would have been a sixty 97 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: yard chunk play and it I mean I could have 98 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: looked as bad as that. I mean it was pretty bad, right. 99 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: He almost tripped, hits off his like shoulder hands, never 100 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: even clutches it, and you're like, it's your night. Then ironically, 101 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: like and this is why you're like shut up. Three 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: pays later, they hit a touch they hit a huge 103 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: play for a touchdown. All of a sudden, it's twenty 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: to ten. You look up, there's like seven minutes to go. 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: But I do think this game because Gunnar Stockton was 106 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: letting it loose. I mean there was a play early 107 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: in the game where he hits a bomb to what 108 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: they said the fastest guy in college football. I mean, 109 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how we're in smith, I don't know 110 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: how we validate that, but I'm sure he's one of them, 111 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: and clearly one of the red shirt kids runs out celebrating. 112 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: When I was at Fresno State, I think we were 113 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: playing Wisconsin. It was either Wisconsin or Illinois. It was 114 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: a one of our big non conference games that almost 115 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: happened to me on like a pick six or a 116 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: huge play that we scored on. And I remember running 117 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: down and the referees comeing, sprinting or backpedaling or however 118 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: it happened, and I missed him by a quarter of 119 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: an inch, and I remember thinking if I would have 120 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: fucking taken him out and it would have negated the 121 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: touchdown and I probably would have got fired on the field. 122 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: And luckily that kid. There were so many guys I 123 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: was isolated. It was just me. Kirby couldn't even probably 124 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: tell who it was, and they all kind of, you know, 125 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: jump back. That was a pretty devastating penalty for them, 126 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: and then they just never really got anything going on offense, 127 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: and obviously the end of the half happens, and that 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: when that end of the half, when they get the 129 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: fumble and then they immediately score, that was to me 130 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: a huge swing before even the kickoff return. You had 131 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: to feel extremely good going in halftime after that play. 132 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, even for Riley Leonard to throw it on an 133 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: RPO and it's so funny with him. You're always on 134 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: edge as a Notre name fan. Whether he throws the 135 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 3: ball deep. You just hope that he doesn't, you know, 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 3: throw an interception on that play too. He's got so 137 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: much room in front of him, in front of both Collins, 138 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 3: but he just wants to put it right on him, 139 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: make it a little tough catch for Collins. 140 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 2: And you're right. 141 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean they scored ten points in eleven seconds, and 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean it just completely changed that game. And then 143 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: you go back to it the you bring in a 144 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: transfer from Marshall. We talk all the time about these 145 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: group of five guys. 146 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: That kickoff return felt like the nail in the coffin 147 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: early against Georgia, they basically scored seventeen points in thirty 148 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: seconds of actual gameplay. I mean that's you know, for 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: a team with a backup quarterback who actually some plays 150 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: he would look terrible, but then he would make some 151 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: really nice plays. I mean he made some. The throw 152 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: out that eighty six dropped was a really nice pass. 153 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: The bomb that the thirty nine ran into the referee 154 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: was a beautiful play. The touchdown passed after eighty six 155 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: drop Like, he made some explosive plays. I mean, listen, 156 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: your guy threw for eighty eight yards, so your your 157 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: passing game. You know for this team, that was really impressive. 158 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: A wins win, but like, can they win the National Championship? Now? Listen, Georgia, 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: probably all eleven of their guys are gonna play in 160 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. On defense, several of them are gonna get 161 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: drafted really really high. So it's it's a hard defense 162 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: to play against. Uh, you know, love tweaks his knee. 163 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: That's a little scary big picture. It's one thing Chip 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: Kelly mentioned. I think I saw him say like a 165 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: week ago, like if if you were talking about who's 166 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: gonna win the National Championship and you're not talking about like, well, 167 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: it's impossible to know who's gonna get injured throughout all 168 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: these extra games, and you don't you see you guys 169 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: already lost a defensive lineman. Love's already been hurt. Now 170 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: what's like, is that an that's not an ankle, Like 171 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: that's a knee. He did exprain his knee. That's a 172 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: big deal playing Penn State. But that's not to look 173 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: ahead yet. But ultimately, you know, Marcus Freeman looks really 174 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: quick that first year when he lost to Marshall, and 175 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: maybe it's unfair, but he did inherit a pretty really 176 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: good situation and that loss was really really bad, and 177 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: early on in that season it was really really ugly, 178 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: and I honestly thought him like, I don't know if 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: he's gonna make it through a year because like losing 180 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: these games, you lose a Marshall at home, and then 181 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: it looked like he was gonna lose a Cal at home. 182 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: Then he righted the ship and he clearly proved that 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: he could recruit really really well right and these last 184 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: couple of years the team has been really good. And 185 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: last year, like Sam Hartman was solid that this guy 186 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: is just a more dynamic overall player because of his legs. 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: But defensively, I mean, that's what put Marcus Freemant on 188 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: the map right at Cincinnati It's why Brian Kelly hires 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: him to Notre Dame. I mean that that defense is 190 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: hitting a lot like Georgia Texas. What Ohio State has 191 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: looked like these last couple of weeks, what the best 192 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: SEC teams have looked like the last three or four years. Like, 193 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: if you hit with that much speed, you are gonna 194 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: be in every game, even if you don't have you know, 195 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Joe Montana back there slinging around, And. 196 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: It felt like two they're a lot well coached for 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: how young they are compared to Georgia. Out in space, 198 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: it felt like anytime they had some kind of you know, 199 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: outside zone or screen on the outside, you had about 200 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: three or four gold Domes. I mean number eight Don Schultz, 201 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: he's a sophomore. That kid's a player alongside Xavier Watts, 202 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: those two safeties on the back end, and then Notre 203 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: Dame's always had one of those older captain linebackers that 204 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: kind of stout in the middle of the defense. And 205 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: then you're right about the D line and you know 206 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: your guy, Brian Young I mean or Bryce Young I 207 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 3: should say, looked a little rusty there at the beginning. 208 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: Those three penalties. 209 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: Or twice those looked like roughing both times which they 210 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 3: were running in the kicker, it looked like he. 211 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 2: Hit both of his legs each time. But I mean, 212 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: I was just impressed. Man. 213 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: I know it's not attractive with Riley Leonard, you know, 214 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty four ninety yards one touchdown, but he 215 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: played with That's the way we're gonna play with his 216 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: running ability. 217 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 2: I know Colin Cowerd talked about it. 218 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: He kind of reminds him Josh Allen when it comes 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: to that grit and toughness. And I think for a 220 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: guy they've always been wanting to feed like Riley Leonard, 221 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: and they've always wanted him and for him to go 222 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: out like that and be the leading rusher with eighty yards, 223 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 3: I mean, how many times in the broadcast Haines King, 224 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Haines King, Georgia Tech. And it's just crazy. How I 225 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: want to hear your thoughts about it. How Georgia can't 226 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: stop a quarterback versus being able to stop the running backs. 227 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: Well, I think because you got to pick and choose 228 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: your poison. I think I'm trying to think of the game. 229 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Was it Pittsburgh. It was the second game that Pittsburgh 230 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: played the Ravens and this was was Christmas or maybe 231 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: this was the week before Christmas or you know, four 232 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: days before Christmas or whatever, and Derreck Henry went nuts. 233 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: And it's because they're like, you're the Lamar is not 234 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: gonna beat us. So on any time when you're gonna 235 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: have like the the RPO or the option of quarterback, 236 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: running back the give, you're gonna take out one or 237 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: the other. It's really hard to like play elite sound 238 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: football and take them both out, Like you really got 239 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: to sell out on one. And the Steelers, for example, 240 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: sell out on the quarterback. And in that game, Derrick 241 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: Henry went nuts. And tonight it was like those two 242 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: running backs. I mean, looking back on Indiana, Love's run 243 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: was obviously open the gate and you know, was a 244 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: start in the end of Indiana. It's like, we're not 245 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: gonna let these running backs get off. We're not gonna 246 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: let them have big plays and he can just kind 247 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: of run around. Now they also have designed runs for 248 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: Riley Leonard, you know, like they used to have them 249 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: with cam at Carolina, like the quarterback power that one. 250 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it was technically the last first down 251 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: for Notre Dame, but essentially was the like nail in 252 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: the coffin of the game where he leaped over and 253 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: the sideline just went nuts. Like there's when you get 254 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: a guy that big in space, that's where you have 255 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: the Cam Newton, Josh Allen, you know Lamar for example, 256 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: his speed is so elite, but he's not you know, 257 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: running through guys, running over guys. He's just beating you 258 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: to the spot. The Josh Allen's and Cams, I mean, 259 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Cam is fast, but they can take you out. So 260 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: if you're in front of them, especially if you get 261 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: to the edges with a quarterback that big, it is 262 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: not the middle linebacker in the defensive ends, right, it's 263 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: safeties and corners. And even on the broadcast, McElroy's like, 264 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: that's one of the best safeties in the country, and 265 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: what's he gonna do. He's like catching him in the air. 266 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: And how tall is Riley Leonard? Like sixty five sixty 267 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: six probably twoint forty. He's huge, yeah, yeah, and he's 268 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: leaping full speed. But that's how like he made some 269 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: of those against A and M And you know on 270 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: Penn State is essentially a Georgia Texas, like they're all 271 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 1: they're all the same in terms of SEC bodies NFL bodies, 272 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: and this guy can run over them. It's like, are 273 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: they good enough passing against them? You know, Georgia, sometimes 274 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: you need luck on your side. Like I would say 275 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: they got a little unlucky with some of their big 276 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: plays tonight with their backup quarterback in who hit some 277 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: big plays just didn't work out in their favor. But yeah, 278 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was your guys. Defense is one thing 279 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: I think that is different than some of Brian Kelly's 280 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: best teams. Like, you guys have had really good players 281 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: on defense, guys have played in the NFL. Obviously, Kyle 282 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: Hamilton would fit right in on this team. But like 283 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: you go back to Mantiteo, he didn't look like you 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: guys look right now. Like the speed in Watts moves, 285 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: it looks like a guy at Alabama, Georgia or Texas, 286 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Like the sideline the sideline, and that's what 287 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: you have to have to beat. You're playing Penn State, 288 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Like they got two NFL running backs in an NFL 289 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: tight end, so that's where they're gonna win the game. 290 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: So you got to be able to get really fast 291 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: in a short period. You need to have Fred Warren 292 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: or Patrick Willis, Luke Keigley got some speed and that's 293 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: why the SEC has always separated. Well, Texas has come in, 294 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: they've bought it, Notre Dame has bought it or recruited 295 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: it or whatever. I don't know. You guys have some 296 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: academic requirements. But I just watched you guys play and 297 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: team speed because A and M is a bot you 298 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: know NFL program, and you guys went toe to toe 299 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: with them speed wise. So it's like defensively speed wise, 300 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: I think you can play with anyone in the country right, 301 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: just offensively. You just have to get into a game 302 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: like your style is gonna be. You're not gonna play 303 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: like the Detroit Lions. You's got to play and kind 304 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: of an ugly can we win the game like twenty 305 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: to fifteen? 306 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah? And the different weapons they have too. 307 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: You got a Mitchell Evans that you just throw it 308 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 3: anywhere in his space will catch it. And Feijan's been 309 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: doing well in the slot at wide receiver. And then 310 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: on top of that, I was gonna ask you about this, 311 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: would you make a Marcus Freeman's little special teams? Bring 312 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: on the punt team take them off, bring on the 313 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: offense and Jalen Walker and Mikel Williams jumping there met. 314 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: Before pretty exactly that a first time you've seen him 315 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: do something like. 316 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: I think that's the first time I've seen that from 317 00:14:58,840 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. 318 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: I saw some one on Twitter, like a former player 319 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: or say, what Kirby should have done. You don't have 320 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: to rush your subs in because they gotta give you time. 321 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: He should have just slowly kind of gone, you know. 322 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: He rushed them all in like Marcus did and basically 323 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: played right into his hand. So then they rushed up 324 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: to line their hearts beating. That's part of it, right, 325 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's so easy to go, they're morons. That 326 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: is an elite coaching job because if he is gonna 327 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: rush his guys on when you don't have to, there's 328 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: twelve seconds on the clock or whatever, you're gonna get 329 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: up to the line, your heart's gonna be beating instead 330 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: of just letting the play slowly. And it's a huge 331 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: advantage because were they gonna snap the ball, you think. 332 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: No, no shot, No. Their wide receivers were so out 333 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: wide too. 334 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: Like I was looking at that play and I told 335 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: my friend this too. It's just crazy. I never thought 336 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: when was the last time you saw Kirby smart, get 337 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: out smarted with the situation like that, which he's not 338 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: special teams, is more of a defensive guy. But still 339 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: it's like that one of those things where then you 340 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: wonder if he had three timeouts, would he have called one? 341 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: Would he just let it be like that play? Pretty much? 342 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: It was like Belichick or you know, Vrabel got Belichick 343 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: one time on this punt situation in a playoff game. 344 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Belichick lost it where he's like holding guys. 345 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: You know. 346 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: One thing I'll give Mark Freeman a lot of credit 347 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: is if like Al Goldenser defensive coordinator. That's a pretty 348 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: high level defensive coordinator. I mean, this is a guy 349 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: that was a head coach at Miami in Temple, I mean, 350 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: and was viewed as one of the better assistants before 351 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: those days. So like their defense. How many times the 352 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: night did he There was one play like a fourth 353 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: and five and he called the perfect blitz. It reminded 354 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: me like Steve Spagnoli Spagnola at Kansas City and Gunner 355 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: was getting lit up right as he just had to 356 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: like throw it up and the guy caught it, but 357 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: he was like two yards short. But in fairness, the 358 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: quarterback had no shot. I mean they the guy came 359 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: right at the right time, and you could tell Golden 360 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: was so fired up he just went right to the 361 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: bench to meet the dudes. It was like, well, that's 362 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: a good call. I mean, that's that's a really you know, 363 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: for a younger coach. He's thirty eight years old and 364 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: he was obviously, you know, high level defensive guide. But 365 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: to bring in a guy for it's not like they 366 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, Al gold to Penn State guy. He's Ohio 367 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: State guy, so it's not like they ever played together. 368 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: They're different ages. But however that marriage worked out. Hiring him, 369 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: that's a big time hire because it's some young guys, 370 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: you know, like is Lincoln Riley hiring Al Golden? You know, 371 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, so like I. 372 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 3: Get coming in, Yeah, Mike Denbrock coaching Jayden Daniels last 373 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 3: year at LSU. 374 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: Maybe got tired of Brian Kelly. He comes in. Those 375 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 2: are two guys. 376 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: Where you know, you compare it to the NFL with 377 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 3: the Chiefs and having Steve Bagnolo and the guys that 378 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: just maybe aren't going to be head coaches that want 379 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: to be coordinators at a big time university given them money. 380 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: So I mean that I want to win. Hopefully flips 381 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 3: the narrative. I think it does Notre Dame can't win 382 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: the big one. My last thing I was going to 383 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: say on this too is for Mitch Jeter, their kicker. 384 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they have to have the worst field goal 385 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: kicking in the country him dealing with a groin injury 386 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: since week two. They have a long time off because 387 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 3: they didn't play since the SIM twenty. I mean three 388 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 3: for three and those are big kicks. And you think 389 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 3: about yesterday with Texas and how many kicks they missed, 390 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: and I mean for that that too was so big 391 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: for their momentum and just get points. 392 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I that was cool. I mean it's 393 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: always cool when you see the family and stuff in 394 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: the and they go to them. But you know, yesterday 395 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: with Texas, I didn't realize this, but I saw McAfee 396 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: was talking with Saban and how Sark went out at 397 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: the end of the game and it was like talking. 398 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: With the kid. 399 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, It's like, bro, he just leave the kickers alone. Man, 400 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: the kickers. It's a weird scenario. 401 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: I think. 402 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: It's a cool moment and like, you beat Georgia, that's 403 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: a huge win for Marcus Freeman. I mean it'll be hard. 404 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: Like even if he were to beat Penn State, you 405 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: would say, like beating Penn State's a really really big deal, 406 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: but beating George just looks better on the resume. And 407 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: Kirby's won multiple national championships. You could argue, you know, 408 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: I know, shit, I'm almost putting money on James to 409 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: win the national championship. But you could argue he's won 410 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: two games and no one really even thinks he still 411 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: won a big game because of two games he won, 412 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: SMU you in Boise stayed. He's a pretty big favorite. 413 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: But there is pressure now on Notre Dame. I don't 414 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: quite understand this, maybe because they're kind of similar teams, 415 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: but they are favored in that game, so there is 416 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: just gonna be pressure. You know, this is just a 417 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: pretty unreal opportunity kind of you know, with the terrorist 418 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: attack and everything, the game gets moved back, so you 419 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: lose a day. Now you're just on a regular week schedule. 420 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: They clearly can't move the games Thursday and Friday. Like, 421 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: because I was like why don't they just flip flopp them. 422 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: But it's it's clearly set in stone way before the 423 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: season even starts, so that game was set to play Thursday, 424 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: so they ain't changing it. 425 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: I'm a little concerned for Notre Dames defense against Tyler Warren. 426 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: I felt like the tight ends too. If Gunner stocked 427 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: in on that fourth and what was it, fourth and two, 428 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: fourth and three? Have the backup tight end, which I 429 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 3: don't understand why Delp wasn't playing. If he keeps running, 430 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: I think he catches that football. They score, and they 431 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 3: had a bunch of inside routes to Delp and their 432 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: tight ends. Tyler Warren is one of those guys. I 433 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 3: feel like I'm a little concerned that Notre Dame won't 434 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 3: be able to bundle them with their linebackers. 435 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah he uh, he looks sweet. I mean you were, 436 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: you were at that game. The one thing that's cool 437 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: about this Final four is you just get four rosters 438 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: that are just full of NFL bodies and that if 439 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: you just went to a sideline, you just would go 440 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: Holy moly. Because I was watching the SEC network clips 441 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: on what day or I don't even know what day 442 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: it is, so it would have been Wednesday morning, and 443 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: the SEC network is, you know, at the game against 444 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: Texas and Arizona State, and they're like, you know, if 445 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you just and this is like an hour before when 446 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: warmups are going on in the back and they're like, 447 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: if you just look at warmups, you go like, I 448 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: don't know how fair this game is going to be. 449 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: And I would imagine, I mean, you were on the 450 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: sideline for Boise. Penn State, like Boise does not look 451 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: like Penn State physically coming out of the coming out now. 452 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: In fairness, they never really have for twenty five years 453 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: and have been averaging ten plus wins, but it is 454 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: pretty hard to overcome. I mean, Penn State is truly 455 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: like a top five roster in the in college football, 456 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: and I do think that they are. They're playing really 457 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: really well. I mean, if Carter can get healthy, they 458 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: definitely have. And their quarterback is he's not playing in 459 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: the cold anymore. I mean, he's gonna look a lot 460 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: better in a situation in these controlled environments because he 461 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: does throw the ball better than Riley Leonard, right Like 462 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's not. He's actually a pretty overrated athlete. 463 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: Turns out like when I see him move around, it's like, 464 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: just stay in the pocket. But he can throw the 465 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: ball a lot better than Riley and know obviously Riley 466 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: can run it. If you can combine the two of them, 467 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: you probably haven't number one overall pick. 468 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 3: I mean both those throws he had to warn were 469 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 3: pretty tight, had to get over the defender, pretty sweet, 470 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: like you mentioned. 471 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: And it's cool too. 472 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: We always him returning is is gonna be really cool 473 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: for college football and for himself too, because you always 474 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: forget like this is first year in a new system, 475 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 3: like the first year in a new system, him being 476 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: able to I know. I talked to the offensive coordinator 477 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: too from Penn State, and he Kolon Neck. He said 478 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: in one of the biggest traits is he knows what 479 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: everything's going on, so many shifts in motions and he's 480 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 3: got it dialt And it's pretty cool to see him 481 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: engage in the game, yelling at the refs and the 482 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: want from him. 483 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: I think it's something that. 484 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: How big you mention how big is he when he 485 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: just walks by. 486 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: Huge, huge Warren. Warren's massive. 487 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: He's kind of a quiet guy too, which I guess 488 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: you kind of get, you know, the long hair him. 489 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: Give me one of those tougher guys that just wants 490 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: to play football. But those two and an Abduen Carter, 491 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: you look at him, it's like that dude, That dude's 492 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: the top five pick and hopefully he can get back. 493 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: I think he's one of those guys that will gruele 494 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: out an injury just to play. But then you think 495 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: Penn State. It's like the National Championship the week after. 496 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 497 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: I wonder how him against You know, I guess the 498 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: outside game with Notre Dame will fare out if he 499 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: does player doesn't play. 500 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I know you said, what's the name 501 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: come back? I would say this. There is some buzz 502 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL circles. I mean, it's just going pretty 503 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: well for Drew Aller. If Drew Aller has another like 504 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: if he throws three touchdowns against Notre Dame and wins, 505 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: there could start being some momentum. Like, Bro, you're like 506 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: a top ten pick lock right now. Why couldn't he 507 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: just why couldn't he be the number one overall pick? 508 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: I'm serious. I mean, it's just like there was a 509 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of hype last year was a disaster, gets a 510 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: real coordinator, new offense, and by the second half of 511 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: the year, definitely the end stretch of the year, going 512 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: from Oregon to as we move on, I think he's 513 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: made himself a lot of money. You'd have to entertain it. Now. 514 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Penn State's paying him to come back. But if you 515 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: could be a really really high pick, like you're telling me, 516 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: the Titans or the Raiders, some of these teams would 517 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: pass on that guy. I'm I'm actually really really impressed. 518 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: I just always heard from my Penn State buddies that 519 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: he was like a much better athlete, Like, do you 520 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: think he moves around that well? 521 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: I think he moves up when he's going forward, not laterally, 522 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: if that makes sense. 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I'm just I'm surprised, 558 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 2: he declared. 559 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: But I guess it's one of those things where you 560 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: just you transfer, you hope you go somewhere else, or 561 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 3: you hit the draft. 562 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: I do think when you it's easier to transfer, you know, 563 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: when you're at kind of a random school, not even 564 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: a random school, but when you see like this guy 565 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: used to play at Arizona State, like when they were bad, 566 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: right or whatever, and now he's at Texas or Penn 567 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: State or wherever, it's like, I totally this guy was 568 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: at Washington State and now he's at Alabama or Oklahoma. 569 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I would have done that too. If 570 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: you're at Alabama for two years and you've been a 571 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: starting quarterback at Alabama and it's like, Okay, I go 572 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: to the transfer portal, like what are my options? You know, 573 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: like where am I actually going? And you start to 574 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: might look at your list. You're like, oh, just I'm 575 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: just gonna go to the draft, Like I'm not. I'm 576 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: not transferring no way, like at least quinn yours. And 577 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: we'll see how that plays out. If Quinn Ewers were 578 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: to transfer. I do think he would have better options 579 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: than Jalen Milroe. I think Jalen Milroe. I don't know 580 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: if he's been injured. I didn't watch that whole game, 581 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: but I did watch the first half of Michigan. It 582 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: was really, really bad. And you're watching these other quarterbacks, 583 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: you know, like Drew Aller is a good example, Like 584 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Jalen was playing better than him, felt like, you know, 585 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: twelve months ago and now you're looking at him. It 586 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: feels like they're playing two different sports. And part of it, 587 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, like you've been around see these guys that 588 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: sure you play with the NFL guys in Montana, like 589 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: you got to keep getting better. Like the moment you 590 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: start going backward, you know it's a it's a problem. 591 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: And at quarterback it's so far under the magnified you 592 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: like you can't really hide. Like if you're a running back, 593 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: you can be in a rotation. You could have a 594 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: bad month, or you know, a defensive end you kind 595 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: of blend in not getting pressure, your quarterbacks start playing bad. 596 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: It's like the whole offense sputters. Yeah, it's just I 597 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: think he I understand why he went pro because I 598 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: couldn't transfer. If you've been at Alabama, it's like it's 599 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: like if you start living in a penthouse, it'd be 600 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: hard to move to some you know, to the bottom 601 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: of the floor, right, I mean, it's just you're you're 602 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: living pretty well. I mean, he's been coached by Saban 603 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: and Deboor. I just think that, what the hell go pro? Now? 604 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 605 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: I had he just stock, I'd be shocked if he 606 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: fits round pick or something. Such a fall off from 607 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: all these guys this year. I mean, you look at 608 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: Carson back, Quinn, viewers, jel Moro. At one point, I 609 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: think jaale Mero is projected to go to the ain'ts 610 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: in the top ten. It's like, now you look at 611 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: it and you're right about this year's class. With Ward 612 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: and Shanor, it's like, well, it's I know they're both talented, 613 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: but are they are they over hyped by the media 614 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: and stuff. Like there's some areas that you see on 615 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: both both Ward and chanor that you're like, I don't 616 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: know if I really want that as a Giants getting 617 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: one of those guys in. Do you feel that confident 618 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: you're a Giants GM looking at those two or do 619 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: you kind of I mean, I don't even if I'm 620 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: a Giants GM. I don't even know if I'm gonna 621 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: have my office in about five days. But do you 622 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: keep keep you locking out of the year, Like, I mean, no, 623 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: I think Drew locked. Yeah, they should have been starting 624 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: him for a lot longer when they went to the veto. 625 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: How about the contraption on what's his name's arm today 626 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: on the sideline? Like clearly Carson Beck had pretty serious 627 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: elbow surgery. So it's like, is his next year in doubt? 628 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: Even if it's you know, maybe he'll be ready for 629 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: training camp. His draft stock had already taken a huge hit. Now, 630 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: I I I don't see how he goes any earlier 631 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: like the fifth, sixth, seventh round, major elbow injury after 632 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: the season he just had, and then Gunner came in 633 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: and I would say, I don't think it made Carson 634 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: look like better. It's like, oh, see what you could 635 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: like he was slinging around get the ball to some guys. 636 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: Uh looked a little rusty for a guy making his 637 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: I guess taking his first. 638 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 2: Ever start, first ever. 639 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's like I don't think that now college 640 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: is weird because you know, high end teams and even 641 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: save And said, like, this guy was a pretty high 642 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: level recruit. It's not like you're back up at some 643 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: of these programs. Even though that maybe the average fan 644 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: hasn't heard of him, like all the coaches have, like 645 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: Gunner Stocked and I don't know exactly if he's going 646 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: to be this quarterback for Georgia next year, but if he, 647 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: let's say win in the transfer port of tomorrow, Gunner 648 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: Stockton would have options immediately. Like when Carson back, my 649 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: team would like a top ten team, Like would notre 650 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Dame call Carson back. I'm saying Kav was healthy. I 651 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of teams like wouldn't 652 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: even be that interested given like how he his ego is, 653 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: how much money he'd want Quinn yours. I'm not the 654 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: biggest fan, but I would rather have yours than Carson 655 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: back if they were both healthy. Now, Carson's arms work, 656 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: so it doesn't even matter. How shocked were you that 657 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: you Weres made that throw on fourth and thirteen. I 658 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: thought of you right when he threw it. I was like, well, 659 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: you know, he's not good with pressure. They're gonna bring 660 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure. 661 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: And then him to check out of that and the 662 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: protection on them I think they brought six guys was 663 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 3: spot on by him. I didn't think he had that 664 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 3: in him, and for him to do that was was 665 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: you gotta tip the cap. 666 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: A little bit for you. 667 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: You think they called like a double move because he 668 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: looked like he was running out at the sticks and 669 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: then he went forward. That's a pretty garby post. That's 670 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: a pretty ballsy call because you're basically playing for the 671 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: touchdown thinking they will bite at the sticks. It's like 672 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: it worked, and it was. It's all credit to Sarka 673 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: and the boys, But like, what if it doesn't work, 674 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: what if the pressure gets there he runs off the spot. 675 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: I think that's you're basically playing for the end zone 676 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: shot and nothing else on that and it worked because 677 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: the guy bit and listen, I mean, if you're that dB, 678 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: you gotta play the sticks on that spot right fourth 679 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: and thirteen because if they go through to the sticks 680 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: and you tackle him at the eleven or twelve yard line, 681 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: you hold him. It'st You're a legendary individual in the 682 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: history of the program, So it's hard for me to 683 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: blame the dB. Maybe that speaks to why it's such 684 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: a great call. But part of that call is like 685 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: you got to make sure the protection is there because 686 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: he's got to have a little time and they obviously 687 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: blocked it up and he made a great heat. He 688 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: makes great passes. I mean the game opened up in 689 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: a blink of an eye they score a touchdown. Like 690 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: he he has a nice arm. He just makes some 691 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: bad decisions, throws some bad picks, sometimes leaves like sometimes 692 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: he makes the right decision, but he puts too much 693 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: air under a ball. The ball that was picked did, 694 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: I think ended up leading to a touchdown, which I'm 695 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: glad they didn't call it targeting on when when the 696 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: other dB took the guy out and luckily turned his shoulder. 697 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: But I think Sark gets kind of gun shy with 698 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: him where it's like, look at Boise and Asu with 699 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: their running backs. They just go down swinging with their guys, right, 700 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: just go down with the guys where it's like Sarks like, 701 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: how do we kind of get around this? And they 702 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: try to and the problem. 703 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 3: Is they can't run the ball, so they just they're 704 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: kind of screwed their running games so up and down. 705 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned that too, And that was one thing with 706 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: Marcus Freeman in the first quarter. They interviewed him, they said. 707 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, what's what are you gonna continue to do? 708 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 3: He said, hey, you know, Jeremiah Love is not getting anything, 709 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: Price doesn't get anything, but we're gonna commit to the. 710 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: Run because that's what we want to do. It felt 711 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: like Texas even up sixteen. 712 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: It was like first, first and ten, they got one 713 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: yard and it was immediately all right, let's. 714 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: Throw the ball, let's get it out there. I just 715 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: what do you make of what's the identity of this team. 716 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: Is just we're just Texas is gonna come out and 717 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 3: win barely and run the ball one week and throw 718 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: the ball the next week. Like it just seems like 719 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: you're right, the trust is not there with with Sark 720 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 3: and his quarterback or his offense. 721 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Well, it was weird about that game is in basically 722 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: a two series, they score immediately, then they take the 723 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: punch to the house. And you're like they might win 724 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: this game, like they might really embarrass Kenny Dillingham here, 725 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, they just kind of 726 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: nothing happened for a long period time, and it's like 727 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: the end of the half, it's seventeen to three. You're like, 728 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: how is this humanly possible? And I saw someone put 729 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: out the drive chart. It's like what happened? But that 730 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: happens to them a lot where it's like you gonna 731 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: watch one drive they look like Ohio State, like, oh my, 732 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: look at that guy move, look at that throat, look 733 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: at that the pancake blocked by the guard. You're like, geez, Louise. 734 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: And then they just have a quarter stretch where they 735 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: just look like an awful football team on offense. Their 736 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: defense always looks good. Their defense is good. It's why 737 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: Cam Skataboo impressed many people. Like he's running over NFL 738 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: players right. Their defense is good. Now, their secondary, I think, 739 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: is a little question right like the place Skataboo just 740 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of throw up the prayer like that's the Clemson 741 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: was hitting big plays on them. They got hit hit 742 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: big plays, like that's even Asu hit some big plays. 743 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: That's the one area, like their front seven is really 744 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: really dominant, like Penn State, like Georgia, like Notre Dame. 745 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: This is their secondary, I would say, can be just 746 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: a little hit or miss, at least in the playoffs 747 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: so far, which is scary. Against Ohio State. 748 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: It's crazy that that's half. 749 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: You mentioned Scatta ball on their longest play being that 750 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: running back wheel for him to get out there, and 751 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: it's gotta catching that football too. 752 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a mismatch for Texas. And that's one 753 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: thing too. 754 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: I felt like their secondary has been fine until the 755 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 3: playoff hit when Kate Clebnick started dealing it and then 756 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: you kind of sit back and you're like, well, they 757 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 3: got the Throp Award winner, They've got some good dbs. 758 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: But I feel like teams have found ways, like you mentioned, 759 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: to expose this Texas defense. 760 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: It wasn't good last year, right, That's why that was 761 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: their downfall against Washington. Their secondary was bad mainly all 762 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: season despite being a Final four team, clearly was better 763 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: this year. I think a lot of that front four, 764 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: and really the front seven is pretty dominant, but it 765 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: feels like it gets just a little weird right now 766 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: these last two games. And like you know everyone was 767 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: being critical. You get tight in these players you're talking 768 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: about eighteen nineteen twenty year olds. Scata Booth made some 769 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: incredible plays. The double pass a little. I saw Scata 770 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: whose it was supposed to be Philly special. He's gonna 771 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: throw it back to the quarterback. But either they I 772 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: don't know if they covered him or he kind of 773 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: got gun shy, he said. 774 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 3: He said he rolled his ankle the play before to 775 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: love it. He said, yeah, don't, don't throw it to me. 776 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: And on that too, he kind of tripped, okay, and 777 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 3: under throw. 778 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: He said. 779 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 1: He looked up he saw one on one he said, 780 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm okay, screw it. And that's why so they But 781 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: that's what you have to do in a game like 782 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: that when you're asu and you do start getting little momentum. 783 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: That was a classic boise you know, for in the 784 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: Chris Peter Sceonara, you gotta have some trick plays. That's 785 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: why I thought Boise State like they just kind of 786 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: ran a traditional offense against Penn State. It's like you 787 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: got to pull out some some tricks against a team 788 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: that has better talent. Like hell, Penn State was running 789 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: like double passes with Tyler Warren and you're thinking, like, 790 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Just run normal plays? Why 791 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: isn't Boise trying that? That's why I give props to 792 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,919 Speaker 1: Dillingham and Asu for kind of pulling some of those 793 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: plays when the ball was in the air. You're like, 794 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: what is he doing? And then the guy you know 795 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: that they benefited from it. But but I thought these 796 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: these four games were just really really entertaining. And the 797 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: amount of just star players, you know, I think this 798 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: is where college football is really taking a huge step. 799 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, college basketball used to have 800 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: this too, But you know, it doesn't it's not the 801 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: same anymore. Like so many of these guys are playing 802 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like, think about even the two big 803 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: underdogs that lost Asu and Boise. I mean, they have 804 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: two star running backs. I mean genti is, I mean 805 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: an all time running back name that's gonna be on 806 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: the list forever. In Skataboo became like a Colt hero. 807 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: I mean, when do you ever see a white running 808 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: back who like kind of gained some momentum throughout the seasons, like, oh, 809 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: this guy's kind of fun. This guy's kind of fun. 810 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: By the end, everyone even like NFL guys Like, Jesus, 811 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: this guy's incredible. You know, I think did Skataboo earn 812 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: more street cred just in terms of like, is this 813 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: guy a real NFL player or jesus a good college player? 814 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,919 Speaker 1: That game all the other games combined this season, because 815 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: it's like, listen, you can run for whatever against West 816 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Virginia or who you're playing in the Big twelve, and 817 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: even early on in that game, like this is a 818 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: different animal. You know, this is a different animal. In 819 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: fairness is offensive line couldn't block those guys. And then 820 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: it was just like this guy and clearly he had 821 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: like the flu or sick or something. He's puking on 822 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: the sideline and he just starts trucking guys, making guys miss, 823 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: making plays. And then you see his stats at the 824 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: end of the game, like one hundred and twenty yards rushing, 825 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: eighty nine yards passing, he had a passing touchdown. It's like, 826 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 1: what a performance by the kid, What a legend that was? 827 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: Zero stars went to sax State, ends up there and 828 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 1: caps that effort off and honestly, I mean they fourth 829 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: and thirteen to beat Texas is one of those when 830 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking up I'm like, this is almost too good 831 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: to be Jais she was really gonna pull this off, 832 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: But then you're looking at like fourth and thirteen and 833 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: what's the likelihood of that hitting ten percent? Fifteen percent? 834 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Especially late in the game. 835 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 3: This was one receiver in one receiver Matthew Golden. The 836 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: whole time I'm watching, I'm like everyone's talking about on 837 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: college game day the emergence of Isaiah Bond, Like, oh, 838 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 3: him coming back a big plus for the offense. He 839 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 3: didn't get one only on one target was the one 840 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 3: where he. 841 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 2: Got blown up on the targeting. 842 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: It's weird. I don't know what's going on with him. 843 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: Is a you wers thing? Is he still banged up? 844 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 3: Like he played some snaps and he was even on 845 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: a one on one matchup. It wasn't even look towards 846 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: his way. This is the guy that was supposed to 847 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: be a potential first round pick, maybe even second round pick, 848 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 3: and it's like, you now you're going to guys Golden 849 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 3: more some of those younger dudes. It's kind of weird 850 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 3: just seeing him the last because Miami or not Miami 851 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 3: Michigan game he went off and after that, it's been really. 852 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Quiet for him. What I think is gonna be interesting 853 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: is like big picture, Texas is always going to be good. 854 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: Now with the nil air, they're going to dominate. Yeah, 855 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Ohio States are going to dominate, Penn State's gonna dominate. 856 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: You guys are going to dominate. Like these teams are 857 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: not going anywhere. ASU caught lighting in a bottle a 858 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: little bit this year with Skataboo, who kind of fell 859 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: into their lap right just Sex State. No one wanted them. 860 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: The likelihood of that happening over and over is pretty slim. 861 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: Now he does gain momentum because they're on national television, 862 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: maybe they get some better recruits, but it is gonna 863 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: be very difficult. And I'm thinking once they lost that game, 864 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: that might be their best chance I ever to be 865 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: in a situation like that. Because one thing you say 866 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: about Boise, like boys have been winning ten to twelve 867 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: games for twenty five years, Like the chances Boise wins 868 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: ten to eleven games the next couple of years and 869 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: puts themselves in a position in the non power forward 870 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: to get another spot. No, they may never get a 871 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: buy as they change the rules. But if you told 872 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: me what are the chances Boise he's in this game 873 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: in the next three years, you know, in a playoff game, 874 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: I'd say like ninety percent if you tell me the 875 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: next five years. Even if I think I think dilly 876 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: Ham's clearly really good, issue might never get back to 877 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, issue, are they gonna win eight 878 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: games next year? Not because he's not a good coach 879 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: or whatever. It's just it's hard. You know, Oklahoma State 880 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: was down. You know the schedule, you don't play certain teams. 881 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: I just think that's the one you just lose sleepover. 882 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, Like Georgia sucks to lose. 883 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: Kind of a weird season and their team clearly wasn't 884 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,839 Speaker 1: as good. They're like, we'll be fine, We'll be back. 885 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: Even Alabama you missed the playoffs, Like we'll reload. We 886 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: got it, We'll be okay. A program like as she 887 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: was like, this might have been our best shot ever, 888 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: especially once we come back and then take the lead 889 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: in overtime. 890 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 3: Don't you think with Levitt though, that they may have 891 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 3: some in a big twelve where I mean I'm looking 892 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: trying to think on top of my head. Utah has 893 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 3: got a transfer quarterback, maybe Avery Johnson in Kansas State. 894 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 3: This next year ends up turning it around and he 895 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 3: becomes better. But I look at the Big twelve, I 896 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 3: did Colorado losing all their guys door and you know, 897 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: Shiloh and Travis and stuff. I kind of feel like, 898 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 3: at least throughout the season that you saw Sam Levitt 899 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 3: progress in what he was able to do in that 900 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 3: football game. I mean, he made some big time throws, 901 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 3: extending plays. 902 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 2: I get that. 903 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 3: I feel like there's maybe one more if they can recruit. 904 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,799 Speaker 3: But you're right, they're never gonna find another Scota but 905 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 3: who has basically their entire offense. But Levitt did improve, 906 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 3: and you kind of look at that game like, Okay, 907 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 3: the future may be bright for Asu. 908 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the knock they've had is like nil has 909 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: been an uphill battle for him. It's like, and hopefully 910 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: this helps, you know, just some of their famous Like 911 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: they might not have the crazy boosters, but maybe they 912 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: just got some rich former athletes that all put in 913 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: a couple hundred grand to each. You know, even if 914 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: there's a lot of Phil Micholson's a lot of the world, 915 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: it doesn't even need to be foot they don't. It 916 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be football players just because it is cool, 917 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: like the football team like saw Phil Mickelson tweeted about, 918 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: like it just brings people together in a moment like that. Yeah, 919 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 1: I just it's just sometimes you hope, like the wide 920 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: receiver they got injured, is he going to the drafts 921 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: he's coming back? 922 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 2: Is like sophomore. 923 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like is he a transfer portal guy? 924 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: It's like or does Texas call him up? You know 925 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: that's that's where and that's what and that's where I say, boys, 926 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: he's a lot to be back, maybe in the old 927 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: pre anil days, but it's harder, like when they get 928 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,880 Speaker 1: the gents now as freshman or sophomores, it's gonna be 929 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: harder and harder for them to keep him. It was 930 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: just hard for them to keep him this offseason, and 931 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: they got lucky, stayed very loyal, and he was. It 932 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: obviously worked out for him pretty well that he stayed. 933 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: He made the playoffs. It was all worth it. But 934 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: he's I would say, he's probably the exception that most 935 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: guys at a school like Boise. When Alabama calls or 936 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State calls, or LSU calls or Georgia calls, I 937 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: give you eight hundred thousand dollars and you'd be my 938 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: starting whatever. It's hard to turn that down, you know. 939 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: That's what makes me nervous about like the non super Superpowers, 940 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: which is like a pretty clear like ten teams Oregon, 941 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: Ohio State. I would throw Michigan in their Penn State, 942 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: Notre Dame, Georgia, Bama, LSU, Texas. Like when when those 943 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: schools call to any non you know of that group, 944 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: is they're gonna get basically guaranteed yes this Like I 945 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: saw Jim More go in nuts, like I'm gonna start 946 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: turning people calling my good players like I had good 947 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: luck with that, Jim. I don't think anyone cares, but 948 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: that's happening, Like they're just I just think their personnel department, 949 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: like who's the best player on the who give me 950 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: the list of the top twenty players in the non 951 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: power for We'll fucking start dming them and calling them 952 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: and they. 953 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 3: Like the the FCS National Championship next Monday, I might 954 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 3: get some attention to you talked about it. I mean, 955 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm a Montana guy and I hate Montana State being 956 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 3: in the National Championship, but they've got some dudes there too, 957 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 3: that can move, I mean either wide receiver position or 958 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 3: running back to their quarterback. A lots could be one 959 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: of those guys that a Notre Dame. He kind of 960 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 3: plays in that similar style. But FCS on the chief 961 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 3: you're telling me, like even Ohio State, I don't know 962 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 3: if they would go and get a guy from the FCS. 963 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 2: But it's it's the tampering. 964 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: Part of it's a dominant. If Ohio State takes a 965 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,400 Speaker 1: guy from Minnesota, then Minnesota calls Montana, right. 966 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So if you take lad yeah, So if you take. 967 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: The starting guard from Wisconsin and he comes Ohio State 968 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: or Alabama, then Wisconsin goes, well, who's the best guard? 969 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: I can get this all American at Montana. That's a 970 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: fourth round pick. We take them here. It's actually not 971 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: even a downgrade. But Ohio State might not go there though, 972 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: just come to us because they see him. It's just 973 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: an easier transition for them, where for us, like this 974 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: guy's a starter and but for that kid, how does 975 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,439 Speaker 1: he turn down when Montana or Utah calls him? Right? 976 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: And that's where the shady part of this whole thing. 977 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 1: It's like he's not technically like a lot of guys 978 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: don't enter the transfer portal till they hear who knows, 979 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: you know, hear so many different stories. Agents are working 980 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 1: the back channels. But it is kind of it is 981 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: kind of lawless, which I got no problem. If your 982 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: coach leads or whatever, you can do whatever you want. 983 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: But some of these guys that are just like their 984 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: coaches staying and just their dms are flooded. It would 985 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: be difficult. You just gotta hope, like the dude's got 986 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: a girlfriend that he doesn't want to leave, you know, 987 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: because they clearly one thing's proven. The friendships like your 988 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: boys and your team, they're not that strong. Because I 989 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 1: don't hear many people say like, you know, I just 990 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: couldn't leave my boys. Everyone's like, yeah, that's a great opportunity. 991 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 2: See guys later. 992 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,359 Speaker 3: That's like Finley, he's been to five schools. Like when 993 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: you look at getting married, who is gonna be on 994 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 3: your best man? Your groom's been set up, You're not 995 00:44:58,480 --> 00:44:59,760 Speaker 3: gonna have any type of friends. 996 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 2: I think. 997 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 3: The only the only one that's been kind of I 998 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 3: guess have friends and people sticking around was notre name. 999 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: Some of those big schools. 1000 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, you're right, it's the tampering part of it. 1001 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how they're gonna fix it. I don't 1002 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 3: think they ever will. You just think that's might just 1003 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 3: be part of the sport, just tampering and stuff. 1004 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: That's why, like James Franklin's pounding the table of like 1005 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 1: we need just a commissioner. They can just write some 1006 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: basic bylaws. And he keeps messing with Saban doing it. 1007 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: But I think they know they need a coach. They 1008 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: can understand, like we gotta not harp on this, you 1009 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: know whatever it is, pushing the envelope on these five things, 1010 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: but we got to have a hard line of like, 1011 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 1: if you sign an nil with me, you can't leave 1012 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: unless these three things happen. Your coach leaves. Uh, if 1013 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,399 Speaker 1: you break the contract, you gotta pay. You know you're 1014 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 1: under contract. I don't know. I don't exactly know, but 1015 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: I think that's their big thing. We just need some 1016 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: bylaws like in the NFL, they're just rules if you're 1017 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 1: under contract, can't leave now, but can get cut. Like again, 1018 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't exactly know how it would go, but there 1019 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: has to be some sort of of rules right now 1020 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: there just aren't any. And even for coaches like, well, 1021 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,719 Speaker 1: they can leave whenever. Well, yeah, if you want to 1022 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 1: steal a said coach. They there's a buyout usually right, 1023 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: twenty million, you know, the summer bigger than others, so 1024 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 1: there's no buyout players. It doesn't seem like, you know, 1025 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: that cam Ward thing didn't play like you know, was 1026 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: part of his NIO playing in that game. I saw 1027 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman wright that him playing in that game did 1028 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: help a lot of other guys not opt out and 1029 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 1: also play in that game. I mean, he practice you know, 1030 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: for you know, three whatever weeks, ten practices. I think, listen, 1031 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 1: we jumped the Sharks so long ago. The guy sitting 1032 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: out the ball games, how could in what world if 1033 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: he helps other people stay and play in the ball game, 1034 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: if he wants to play a half, how is that 1035 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: more polarizing than guys just quitting and just leaving, which 1036 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: been happening now pretty consistently for a while. That's why 1037 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to make about half of 1038 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: these Bowl games. It's like I fell asleep before the 1039 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: A and M USC game, but I remember seeing the 1040 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: list of A and M guys that opted out as 1041 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: like half their team, like they just and I would 1042 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: guess the majority of them didn't go to the bowl 1043 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: or just left, especially that bowl, you know, against a 1044 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: six and six USC team. So you tell me what's worse. 1045 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: A guy practicing with his team in a ball game. 1046 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean anything. And I'm not even some huge 1047 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: im noting I'm pound on the table for km more. 1048 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm just looking as logically playing in the half, and 1049 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 1: clearly they want to get a look at their backup 1050 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: as their backup quarterback can either starter or they need 1051 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: the transfer portal. And you know they lost. Maris is 1052 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 1: not Mario loses a lot of big games, like just 1053 00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 1: check his resume. Now they have lost with Cam probably not, 1054 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 1: but who knows Mario as a coach or all these 1055 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,239 Speaker 1: guys just say peace, I'm out and just head to 1056 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 1: LA start training, Like you tell me what's worse, Like 1057 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: Cam was there with his guys. I think people, you know, 1058 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: feel like they listen it's it does happened a lot. 1059 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: The guy just leaves at halftime. But I do think 1060 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: that is much much better and I have more respect 1061 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: for that than the guys that just leave. And now 1062 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: everyone's so numb to no one even cares, like, oh 1063 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: they just opted out. Look at just Twitter on a 1064 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: daily basis, like not now because all these Bowl games 1065 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 1: are mainly over, but like two weeks ago, opt out, 1066 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: opt out, opt out, opt out. All these guys either 1067 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: transfer portal or. 1068 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 2: Or the league. 1069 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,760 Speaker 1: I respect the guys. It's like he's in the transfer portal, 1070 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: but he's also still playing. I think Orgy for Michigan 1071 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:32,759 Speaker 1: is in the transfer portal, but he's playing. 1072 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 2: Like Devin Brown from Ohio State, their backup quarterback is 1073 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:35,319 Speaker 2: still playing. 1074 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 1: I respect that. 1075 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I think part of it, too, 1076 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 3: is the reason why is sports betting. Sports gambling has 1077 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,439 Speaker 3: been so popular for Miami to be a five six 1078 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 3: point favorite and have its flip around where Iowa State 1079 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 3: not a lot of guys left to go to the 1080 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 3: portal for them. I got their starting quarterback, they're all young. 1081 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 3: Versus Miami, you've got Emery Williams who hasn't played like 1082 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 3: the entire season. 1083 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: I think that part of it is why people were 1084 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: all back. I will say this, betting on Bowl games, 1085 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: non playoff games in general is a very difficult proposition 1086 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: in this era, and it has been for a while. 1087 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's just you don't know who's playing. You 1088 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 1: don't know who cares. It's always been tough as they've got, 1089 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: especially as they've gone to the four team playoff, and 1090 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,919 Speaker 1: it's really kind of I would say, diminished a lot 1091 00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: of the importance of the Bulls. The smaller schools still 1092 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of mattered, but for the bigger schools like you 1093 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: turn on Alabama US or Alabama Michigan. Listen. I know 1094 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: Jalen Milroll played bad, but it didn't feel like Alabama 1095 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: cared at all. You can't tell me if throughout the season, 1096 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: if Alabama played them in a regular season game in 1097 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: like October tenth, that Michigan would beat them. I would 1098 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: doubt that. Who knows. Now, maybe Michigan beat Ale State 1099 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 1: and turned the corner and now they're better. I don't know. 1100 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: But bowl games are weird, non playoff games that it 1101 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: feels like everyone's all in game planning. I mean, half 1102 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,879 Speaker 1: these plays are screwing around Like Colorado. Well, I wonder 1103 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: what Colorado's focus was leading up to that BYU game. 1104 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: I would imagine it was pretty low. 1105 00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 2: Kicking. 1106 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 1: It was like, hey dad, we'll play. We'll play for 1107 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: you because we love you, but uh yeah, we're don't 1108 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,879 Speaker 1: expect max effort out of us here. 1109 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 2: You know, it was crazy. 1110 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: I looked up because the NFL game was going and 1111 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,520 Speaker 1: Shador was getting chased down in like the fourth quarter, 1112 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: like five minutes ago. I'm like, this isn't he's getting peppered. 1113 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is crazy. 1114 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 3: So what do you make of all four teams with buys? 1115 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 3: You know, Arizona State, Boise State. Most likely we're going 1116 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 3: to lose that football game ended up having opportunities and 1117 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 3: not winning. What do you make I guess the four 1118 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 3: teams with buys losing. 1119 00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:03,280 Speaker 1: I think what's going to happen is well, Georgia and Oregon. 1120 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: Just I mean, you just play against a game, this 1121 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: happens in the NFL. You just play against another high 1122 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: level team. It's football. You could lose. I don't think 1123 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: that's that weird. I would say that. I would imagine 1124 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: the next couple iterations as they changed this. If I 1125 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: was a by team, I would want a home game. 1126 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge, huge advantage. Then have to 1127 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 1: travel three or four days before, stay at a hotel 1128 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 1: like I'd want a home game. Now, Oregon might have 1129 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,479 Speaker 1: lost that game, whether they played that thing in Notts 1130 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: and whether they play that thing in the moon. It 1131 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: might not have mattered, probably wouldn't have, but I would say, hey, 1132 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go undfeed and be the only like, 1133 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: how do we not get home games? We gotta figure 1134 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: this out. I think Klatt or someone had said that 1135 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 1: he envisions a scenario that essentially the Big Ten and 1136 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 1: the SEC flex or muscles, and they say, you guarantee 1137 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: the SEC championship and the Big Ten championship winner a bye, 1138 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: and then the other two bys. Like, you guys could 1139 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: figure that out. It doesn't have to be championship games. 1140 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: It can just be the highest ranked team whatever, you 1141 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: guys want to do it. But our two teams get 1142 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 1: bys and then just like if it's other teams from 1143 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: our network, fine, but like this situation is not. It 1144 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: was kind of clunky this year with Boise and Arizona State. 1145 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: But I also think the combination of the Bulls still 1146 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: having their hand in the cookie jar throws things off. 1147 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: It's a little weird. I mean, you're I would say this, 1148 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,279 Speaker 1: the passion of the game you were at still felt 1149 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Now, Boise, you know, has a passionate fan base. 1150 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: I would imagine a lot of their alumni live on 1151 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: the West coast. A lot of people from the Northeast 1152 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: live in Arizona, southern California maybe, so it's not that 1153 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: far of a travel. Like that atmosphere felt pretty cool 1154 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: that that spot I feel like works better for big 1155 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: college now Arizona. You know, the Cardinals haven't been good 1156 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: since like Bruce Arian days, but that place is a 1157 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 1: good place to host a college game. A lot of 1158 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: people that come here finding out. 1159 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, even the final four last year, I mean the 1160 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 3: amount of fans they had. They packed it all the 1161 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 3: way up to the rim on both sides, and you 1162 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 3: can see the the college spirit they bring in because 1163 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals have those casinos in the end zone, so 1164 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 3: they remove those and they bring in all the extra 1165 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 3: stands in there. I did find it weird though, this 1166 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 3: was the first time, even last year with the four 1167 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 3: team playoff. How it's like, hey, you congrat you win 1168 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 3: this bowl game. They're passing all these bull hats and 1169 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 3: you get the trophy, and even James Franklin's like, yeah, 1170 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 3: we'll celebrate this, but it's like, now. 1171 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 2: We've got to go on to the Orange Bowl and 1172 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 2: win an Orange. 1173 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 3: Bowl trophy and then win a national championship trophy. That 1174 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 3: part of it's like a little conflicting, where back in 1175 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 3: the day you won a bowl game, it kind of 1176 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 3: meant a big deal to wear the hat. 1177 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 2: You're gonna throw that hat that dumps you. It's a 1178 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 2: little off. 1179 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 1: Like in basketball, you cut the nets when you make 1180 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: it to the final four. It's a really big deal. 1181 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: And then you'd only cut the nets if you won 1182 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: the national championship. You won't cut the nets after you 1183 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: win the semi final game. Yeah, but now that's as 1184 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: they're still figuring their way through this. It's got a 1185 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: little baseball feel to it, like when you, you know, 1186 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: win every playoff series, you spray champagne. We're in football, 1187 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs really celebrate once that when they win 1188 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,880 Speaker 1: the Vision, and you don't really celebrate it again until 1189 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: you win the Super Bowl. I guess you would celebrate 1190 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: if you won the AFC and then the Super Bowl, 1191 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 1: but like celebrating each round of the playoffs, it's just 1192 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: a little clunky. But I get if you're these bowls 1193 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 1: and this is where I don't think you would do it, 1194 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: Like if you were just Oregon, you just interview if 1195 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: you like you know at that game was at Notre 1196 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: Dame today or at Georgia, you just wouldn't have a celebrate. 1197 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: You just interview Marcus Freeman, you'd interview Riley Leonard, guys 1198 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: be able to field celebrate, and then they just go 1199 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 1: to the locker room, do a sweet celebration in the 1200 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: locker room and go shower, eat, go home. But you 1201 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 1: got it, like the all the sponsors, he's got too 1202 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: many hands in the cookie jar right now. There's just 1203 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 1: too much going on with the sponsors, the bulls, the playoffs. 1204 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: It does feel a little clunky. I I didn't realize 1205 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: that watching it today, but it makes sense now, Like 1206 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 1: it feels because they're gonna do it again in the 1207 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: semi final games, right Yeah, they're going to the Orange 1208 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: Bowl and the Cotton Bowl, so it's like, Okay, you're 1209 00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 1: gonna win that game and then you go to it 1210 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: for the national Championship. That's just a lot of I 1211 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: don't mind the bowl games for the semis, but I 1212 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,359 Speaker 1: think that quarterfinal and look, I mean, all former great 1213 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,879 Speaker 1: atmospheres outside of the Sugar Bowl. 1214 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 2: What's been going on. 1215 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 3: But uh, it did feel a little like the celebration 1216 00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 3: after giving him the trophy. And I even saw even 1217 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,600 Speaker 3: the Camp Scatta Will getting the Peach Bowl Offensive MVP 1218 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 3: the loss like that's I don't know, it's like your congrats, 1219 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 3: you got this Peach Bowl trophy, but we want the 1220 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,399 Speaker 3: big one at the end. 1221 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's end on this one thing that's going around. 1222 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,360 Speaker 1: And this is where I think all these guys pushing 1223 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: for they're just using Sabing because he just retired and 1224 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: he's old and he knows a lot, and they know 1225 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: he'd be a dick and would just like drive a 1226 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: hard line on things. 1227 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:44,720 Speaker 2: Is that. 1228 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: I think all these bowls eventually they got to kind 1229 00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,320 Speaker 1: of figure out a way to just keep it pretty 1230 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: consistent with like maybe there's a between six bowles, you 1231 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: kind of rotate between the semis and then just keep 1232 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: the national championship at the Rose Bowl because the Rose 1233 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: Bowl is just the sweetest the way it looks, it's 1234 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 1: pretty cool. And that it does feel like a push 1235 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: in college football world to have the national championship at 1236 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl forever. It's just like this is the Masters. 1237 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: Just add Augusta every year. It's like, we don't rotate 1238 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: venues here. Now, this is where I think so many 1239 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: people are involved that the Orange Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, Like, 1240 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: these people ain't going to allow that to happen, right, 1241 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 1: I mean you saw today when Molly's trying to interview 1242 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: the All State person's grabbing the mic and it's just 1243 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: everyone up on the day. As you always have these 1244 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: sponsors and the Bull president. Those people have a lot 1245 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,120 Speaker 1: of juice, you know in the committee. You know, they 1246 00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,839 Speaker 1: just they're a part of this thing. So it's that's 1247 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,120 Speaker 1: where I just wonder. We talk a lot about nil 1248 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: and transfer portal. The Bull system is pretty like there's 1249 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,879 Speaker 1: a lot of money exchanging hands there, you know, where 1250 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: they ain't giving up their power. That's where I think 1251 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 1: the coaches are like, oh my god, the Rose Bull's cool. 1252 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 1: But Jays Franklin's like, we just people these day and 1253 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: we're like doing this celebration, you know, can we just 1254 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,319 Speaker 1: we only got like eight days till our next game. 1255 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: It's probably felt really weird to him, It would definitely. 1256 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: Saban wouldn't handle it. 1257 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, it was. It was a little weird. 1258 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 3: I mean, none of them were wearing the hats after 1259 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 3: they all had them in their in their hand. I 1260 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 3: think the only one that had some type of fiestable. 1261 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 3: I guess relevancy was Tyler Warren with his trophy. But 1262 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 3: you talk about the Rose Bowl, don't you think that 1263 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,439 Speaker 3: some cities would get a little jealous, like, hey, well, 1264 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 3: Pasadena is gonna get the national championship every year, the 1265 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 3: economical impact that has on their city. Why can't we 1266 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 3: have it in Indianapolis? Why can't we have it in Phoenix? 1267 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 3: Do you think that battle would happen if they were 1268 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 3: to have it in one spot? 1269 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: Well, that's the pushback. I'm thinking, like they always think 1270 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 1: the college games in Glendale pomp like it looks good 1271 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: on TV on at night too, especially Miami. New Orleans 1272 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: always works. Uh, Georgia always works, right, and they land 1273 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: up like, so the rotation does work. I just think 1274 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: people think because of the weather, it's perfect outside, it's 1275 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: such a historic venue, and that's where maybe we are 1276 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: just destined to have. I don't think the second round 1277 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: the buy teams are gonna get home games for the 1278 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: foreseeable future, Like maybe that's maybe that's it's a stupid 1279 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 1: conversation to have because it's just not gonna happen because 1280 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: I would imagine they made so much money with all 1281 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: the sponsors. That's why they did this. So it's almost 1282 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:32,480 Speaker 1: like if Ohio State wins it, it's harder because you 1283 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: got to play the extra game. But it is pretty 1284 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,959 Speaker 1: cool if you do got to play the first round, 1285 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: get a home game, win it, and then go on 1286 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 1: if you get the right bracket or Penn State, like 1287 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: if it's Penn State versus Ohio State. It's been pretty 1288 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: sweet for them. They got to play in two, you know, 1289 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: three bowl games, and they got to play a home 1290 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: playoff game in December. That's pretty that's pretty wild, and 1291 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,480 Speaker 1: maybe maybe there'd be a well, have to see, you 1292 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 1: got to need like five years of data, but you 1293 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: do get some momentum, you know, having played and you 1294 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,600 Speaker 1: just you know, some people say, you know, and sometimes 1295 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: a bye week in football can slow you down a 1296 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 1: little bit. In the NFL, and those teams just stay 1297 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,439 Speaker 1: hot and they just keep going through, especially for college kids, right, 1298 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: and I know, something to keep an eye on. But 1299 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: and then now I talk about it like I don't 1300 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: think these bowl games are going anywhere. It's just too 1301 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: much money, too many sponsors. 1302 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting though with the whole by situation. 1303 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: I the only two things they could do is shrink 1304 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: it to eight or expand it to sixteen. It ain't 1305 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: an it ain't get shrunk exactly. Yeah it it won't 1306 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: get shrunk. 1307 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 3: But it would be funny if they didn't flip it 1308 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 3: where the ten, twelve, eleven, and nine were to get 1309 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,480 Speaker 3: the first round by and then the first year, but 1310 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,960 Speaker 3: then you have to play the obviously five through eight. 1311 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,760 Speaker 1: What's your number grade out of ten so far in 1312 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: these playoffs, I've been I'm a fan of more football. 1313 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the March Madis side of college football, 1314 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: and I think it's anything we'd ever see, even ten 1315 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: years ago when they came out with this model. 1316 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 2: I think the. 1317 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 3: Second round definitely brought it up compared to all the 1318 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 3: blowouts in the first round. 1319 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,840 Speaker 2: I'd probably say eight out of ten. 1320 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 3: I think there's been a lot of drama, instill parodying 1321 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: the sport where it's like you're on your especially these 1322 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 3: four games. Every game it felt like the other team 1323 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,200 Speaker 3: the underdog and an opportunity to win. 1324 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 2: What about you? 1325 01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say I'd say the second round really amped 1326 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,960 Speaker 1: it up. Notre Dame that last game, I mean that 1327 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 1: was just that was a war. Arizona State Texas the 1328 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 1: game of the year so far, right, game of the 1329 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: playoffs by a mile. Yeah, I go like seven seven 1330 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: and a half. 1331 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 2: I mean even Ohio State. 1332 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 3: I mean I know you and you and Colin talked 1333 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 3: about it, and I was leaning more towards Oregon. I 1334 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 3: mean that type of performance, that type of performance you 1335 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 3: watched them. I was just in awe about the both 1336 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 3: sides of the football for Ohio State and the fact 1337 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 3: that you have two players that are going to be 1338 01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 3: number one overall picks that aren't even That's what's great 1339 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 3: about the sport too. I think that's what we see 1340 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 3: in the playoff is there's been a lot of younger 1341 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,480 Speaker 3: guys that have stepped up in the playoff. 1342 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 2: Then I'll get a lot of fame. 1343 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 3: That'll bring a lot of people back to the sport 1344 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 3: when you look at next season. 1345 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And I think the one good part about this playoffs 1346 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 1: year one, if you would have taken like the group 1347 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: of like however many teams, probably eight to twelve, they 1348 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: would have been like, who's going to be in the 1349 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: final four? These would have been for the eight or ten, right, 1350 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's Notre Dame Penn State. And I mean 1351 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,919 Speaker 1: I would have said, everyone would have picked Ohio State 1352 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 1: in Texas, right, Ohio State would have been a lock, 1353 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I'd say for most people to be in a final four. 1354 01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: I think Texas would have been high up there as well. 1355 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: Penn State probably would have been close to like most 1356 01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 1: teams people's eight. You know. But if I would have 1357 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 1: told you who they would have got to play to 1358 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: get to the final four, you might have picked them. 1359 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,439 Speaker 1: But once you watch them play this year is clearly 1360 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: they're pretty freaking good. And Notre Dame was just kind 1361 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: of the wild card of like how good are they actually? 1362 01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 1: But people thought they were definitely a playoff team before 1363 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: the season. That was why, And it turns out they're 1364 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: actually probably better. You know, that was a freak loss. 1365 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're they're really good on defense and 1366 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback's gotten better. But that's like, that's an excellent 1367 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 1: final four for TV viewing. You get Notre Dame, Texas 1368 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: and Ohio State. I mean, those are those are probably 1369 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: the top three brands in the sport. I mean, I 1370 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,080 Speaker 1: don't even know, maybe Michigan Alabama. I'm just talking like 1371 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,560 Speaker 1: brand put them on TV, get people to watch. I mean, 1372 01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: Ohio State's definitely one. Most people would argue Texas is too. 1373 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean Notre Dame's probably like two B. I mean, 1374 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: I mean Penn State ain't small. I mean Penn State's 1375 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 1: closer to five than it is fifteen. So it's it's 1376 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna be it's really good. And you know, Ohio State's 1377 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,520 Speaker 1: a pretty big favorite over Texas. The one good thing 1378 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: with Texas is they got so much talent they can 1379 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: like it's not a lock. It wouldn't shock me at 1380 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: all if it's a tight game at halftime, right, I 1381 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: mean they are, They're well coached, they got I know, 1382 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,919 Speaker 1: people think like Sark. I'm actually come around on Sark. 1383 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that he gets scared with Quinn, that he's 1384 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna make a mistake, and they kind of coach around him. 1385 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: Their defense is so much more physical than in the 1386 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: history of that pro you know, in the history of 1387 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: star coach in that program, like they are. Their defense 1388 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,600 Speaker 1: is good. I mean, their secondary gives up balls like 1389 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 1: that shit that happens in the NFL. What are you 1390 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna do it? dB on an Island. He's either good 1391 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: enough or he's not. There's it's not like, well, he's 1392 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: better than the guy on the bench. But their front 1393 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: seven is every bit as good as Ohio State's Notre 1394 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: Dames de penn States. I mean it's that's the amount 1395 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: of NFL guys in this final four is pretty stupid, 1396 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are like nineteen and twenty 1397 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: years old. They're not even going to the NFL. I 1398 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 1: mean Brian Youngs kid on Notre Dame, I mean, that 1399 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,040 Speaker 1: guy's because an NFL player. I mean, he's he's a 1400 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,240 Speaker 1: lock to be like in two years, like a fifteen 1401 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,680 Speaker 1: sack starting edge guy. I mean, how big is that 1402 01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: guy gonna be as he eats and lifts because he 1403 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: technically doesn't even really start this year, right, he's a 1404 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: rotational No, he didn't get playing time until the playoff 1405 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: yet because we lost a couple guys in the interior, 1406 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: and then you lose Howard Cross for a little bit, 1407 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Buttello as well and Mills him. 1408 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 3: That was one thing to the middle of the defense. 1409 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 3: That's one thing that's been so impressive about this Notre 1410 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 3: Name team is just their ability to just plug and 1411 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 3: play guys like their secondary they're playing three freshmen. 1412 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: It's see, that's the thing about That's the thing about 1413 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 1: these programs, So like a guy like him next year, 1414 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of time, like he's putting fifteen 1415 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 1: more pounds of muscle he's starting this year like in 1416 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, and maybe he takes maybe it's like 1417 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: he's a twelve sat guy, all American, like that's on 1418 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: the table with a lot of guys like him on 1419 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: all four of these teams where it's like these guys 1420 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: like there could be like ten guys that are rotational 1421 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 1: guys that are gonna be top twenty picks in twenty 1422 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven. And the talent on the field, it's not 1423 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: just like you know, the the NFL guys who are 1424 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,640 Speaker 1: getting drafted, it's also the freshman and sophomores who are 1425 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,479 Speaker 1: a lot future NFL players. That was the Georgia team, 1426 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 1: like when they first won the National Championship. It's like, guys, 1427 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: I hope you know that half their defense as sophomores 1428 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,919 Speaker 1: and they're all gonna be top forty five picks next year. 1429 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 1: So every guy that's not draft eligible is going to 1430 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: be draft eligible, and some of them are even better 1431 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: than the guys that are drafted this year. So that's 1432 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 1: these teams are just stacked with talent and maybe in 1433 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 1: the nil era one thing that's gonna be impossible. You 1434 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: could get an upset like an ASU or Boise, but 1435 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,680 Speaker 1: you couldn't win like three games if you don't have 1436 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: a lead talent. So it's gonna be the top programs. 1437 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,840 Speaker 1: Like I don't need to see five years of this playoff, 1438 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: Like you couldn't have like back to back upsets with 1439 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: just the little engine that could, right, you could have one. 1440 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,480 Speaker 3: And if it's ofesome, I was gonna say, it's all 1441 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 3: some fluky stuff like you mentioned Arizona State with the 1442 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 3: fake double pot. Yeah, double pass, and then Boise State 1443 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 3: at one point had it because gent fumbles and Drew 1444 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,640 Speaker 3: Allerd gives the ball back and then they run down 1445 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 3: the field and they score. 1446 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of fluky stuff in those games. 1447 01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 2: It would have been potential upsets. 1448 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: And there were some freaky stuff in that game, like 1449 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,600 Speaker 1: when Genty fumbled twice. Has he fumbled all season and 1450 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: he fumbled that time popped up. 1451 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 2: It was incredible, was crazy. 1452 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Jackson, thanks for joining me. Congrats big day. I 1453 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,800 Speaker 1: mean Notre Dame. This is this is why you're fan 1454 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,600 Speaker 1: because these moments you're not that old. So most of 1455 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: your moments, I mean, what you're losing to Alabama, I mean, 1456 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,440 Speaker 1: your moments haven't been that terrible. Like You've had a 1457 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: lot of good teams, a lot of sweet NFL guys, 1458 01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,120 Speaker 1: but and honestly, you're not even that much farther. Like 1459 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 1: you've been to the National Championship with Brian Kelly, right, 1460 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: you've been to the final four, so now you're just 1461 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,480 Speaker 1: back to the final four. But beating Georgia feels like 1462 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: cooler than those moments losing yet you still got to 1463 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 1: win if you lose against Penn State obviously was a 1464 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: successful year. But well, feel great. You are favored. 1465 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 2: So I'm excited. 1466 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 3: Man, I cannot believe this Notre Dame team is flipped around. 1467 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 3: And I'm actually, when we get off of this, I'm 1468 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,960 Speaker 3: gonna buy some more Notre Dame merch because we're pretty 1469 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 3: low in the department and as they keep playing, hopefully 1470 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,680 Speaker 3: I can wear it on throughout the season. But I 1471 01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 3: just feel like Marcus Freeman at the perfect timing of 1472 01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,760 Speaker 3: him for Notre Dame to finally get over the hump 1473 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 3: that they can't win the big one, and and against 1474 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 3: a Georgia team with Gunnar stocked in, and I know 1475 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 3: the whole headline was, well, a backup quarterback. 1476 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: It's Georgia, but they got a backup quarterback. I think 1477 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,600 Speaker 1: we all could tell he looked pretty much better than 1478 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Carson back and I guess he should have. His receivers 1479 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,560 Speaker 1: would have helped him out a little bit. 1480 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,320 Speaker 3: I mean that that eighty six catches, that eighty r pass, 1481 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,120 Speaker 3: it looks even better for Georgia. 1482 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't. 1483 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: You didn't just beat some like scrub who couldn't play 1484 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,080 Speaker 1: like that was a real win. That was a real 1485 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,080 Speaker 1: win against defense that was really trying. 1486 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 3: With an offensive line that was hyped up throughout the 1487 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 3: entire season too, that has an offensive guard that's going. 1488 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 2: To go in the first round too. 1489 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you take the exciting time, pride and no, 1490 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,959 Speaker 1: just get ready for a game in seven days. Well, 1491 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon, buddy, and congrats the volume