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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Dan Harris. You can find me on

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Speaker 1: Twitter at dan Harris Adi. Before the draft, we broke

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Speaker 1: down some team win totals, and today it's time for

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Speaker 1: some NFL team futures. And since the schedules just dropped

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Speaker 1: last night, we're also gonna take a look at some

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Speaker 1: week one lines that jump out to us as good

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Speaker 1: values as well with me to break it all down,

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Speaker 1: as Andrew Cayley, a senior publishing editor over It covers, Andrew,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the show. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back. We're just uh making, uh,

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Speaker 2: making the best of our time right now. I'm glad

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Speaker 2: we get to talk some football.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you've been You were saying you've been

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Speaker 1: knee deep in KBO stuff over there.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, yeah, by the way, is that uh?

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Speaker 1: I mean have you had to must be a crash course, right,

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Speaker 1: I assume you weren't all that familiar with the players

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Speaker 2: Yeah, full disclosure, I don't know anything about KBO baseball.

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Speaker 2: I don't know any of the players there. There's a

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Speaker 2: few from who used to play the MLB. But other

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Speaker 2: than that, I've just been going by my baseball betting knowledge.

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Speaker 2: And that's the greatness of baseball is you can carry

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Speaker 2: over some of these rules and tactics that you use

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Speaker 2: in baseball. It's the most stat based sport. So you

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Speaker 2: have eras and pitchers, you have whips, you have stats

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Speaker 2: against opponents sort of thing, batting averages, so all of

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Speaker 2: those things ring true in baseball, and those numbers are universal.

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I go by.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing I know you are comfortable talking about

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Speaker 1: I is an fl odd So let's go to it

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Speaker 1: right here. Let's go division by division here for the

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Speaker 1: division winners. Then again we'll hit the odds for conference winners,

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Speaker 1: then the super Bowl, and then we'll finish up by

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Speaker 1: looking at some week one lines that we like, just

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Speaker 1: as a gut reaction here with them just coming out

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Speaker 1: with the schedule dropping last night. Now we'll use the

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Speaker 1: consensus over hunders here from bettingpros dot com. That's the

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Speaker 1: aggregate of odds available in the market. As always, they vary,

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Speaker 1: you know, these are the consensus sids, and you look

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Speaker 1: at bettingpros dot com, it will give you the various

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Speaker 1: ods at all the sports books that are available, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes there are some outliers. So again, these are the consensus,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to show you just basically the entire

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Speaker 1: compliment that is available in the market. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: start with the AFC East here. I mean, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: are the favorites at plus one point twenty to win

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Speaker 1: the Jets and Dolphins at plus seven hundred. I do

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Speaker 1: not want to necessarily criticize whatever you're going to say here,

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Speaker 1: but I personally get that the Patriots have won the

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Speaker 1: division sixteen of the last seventeen years, but the fact

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Speaker 1: that they're the favorites this year strikes me as nuts.

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Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts here? Which which one do

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Speaker 2: I don't like anyone the best, can I say? Can

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Speaker 2: I say that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to be saying that for like three

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Speaker 1: different divisions, So if you want to take this for yours.

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Speaker 2: I'll take this one. Like you said, Patriots are the favorites.

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Speaker 2: They're a very publicly bet team, obviously, so they're gonna

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Speaker 2: get a little added, the price is going to be

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Speaker 2: affected that way a little bit. And they've won the division,

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Speaker 2: like you said, X many years, but I just is

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Speaker 2: Brian Hoyer. Their starter is Jared Sendler starter. They have

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Speaker 2: a lot of weird contracts. They didn't do much in

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Speaker 2: the draft, Like they're clearly not gonna lose for Lawrence

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Speaker 2: the tremor Lawrence the Clemson quarterback because I just don't

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Speaker 2: the other options in this division, like the Bills are

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Speaker 2: but I personally also don't like the Bills. Like the

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Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, is that really much? You

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Speaker 2: I might put it on the Dolphins at seven to one.

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Speaker 2: I know this sounds crazy, but I love to and

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Speaker 2: And it's just a wide open division for me. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know. And the like the Jets are the

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Speaker 2: NFL really didn't do the Jets any favors with that schedule.

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Speaker 1: That schedule is the schedule is abysmal for the Jets

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Speaker 1: because look, I think let's start off, you know, with

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Speaker 1: the overarching theme, which is I agree with you on

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Speaker 1: this division. There are there's nobody that jumps out to me.

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Speaker 1: There's no way I'm taking the Patriots. And again you

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Speaker 1: where they really should be. I also don't love the Bills.

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Speaker 1: an interesting offseason. They you know, whatever they've lost, they've

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Speaker 1: If I had to say, who do I think is

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Speaker 1: But I don't love it at plus one forty five,

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Speaker 1: you know, if if they do poorly this year and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. It's, look, he has

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're not even joking about it, but it's

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Speaker 1: and then you know, you saw the schedule at Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Not all right, Let's move over here to the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: The Raven an overwhelming favorite at minus two hundred, Steelers

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Speaker 2: It's a bit of a stay away because of the

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Speaker 2: fourteen wins Lamar Jackson was earned, that earned every little

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little too chocky in a division

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Speaker 2: that could be tighter. The Steelers at plus three fifty

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Speaker 1: I kind of wanted not to cut you off. I

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Speaker 1: so they you know, they added not that he's great,

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Speaker 1: They're a team that could be really good. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they're enough to overtake the Ravens. Absent injury to Jackson.

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Speaker 1: But I was tempted by them. But three point fifty

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Speaker 2: And I kind of had those leads well into my

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Speaker 1: I actually, I'll be honest, I'm not one hundred percent positive.

430
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: I assume Matt Moore is still the best I believe so.

431
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 1: And he played slowly fine. I mean it's a great system.

432
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 1: He wasn't Mahomes, and you know they they clearly struggled,

433
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: but he can certainly keep this ship afloat. And their

434
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,919
Speaker 1: defense is always underrated. I mean, nobody really talked about it.

435
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: And there are plenty of times where you know they'll

436
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: they'll get in shootouts and the defense won't look great.

437
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 1: But overall it's not terrible. But again they added Clyde

438
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: Edwards A. Yeah, the receivers back, so they could.

439
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: Probably get exactly the team you said the judges. For me,

440
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: it's the Broncos. I really like what they've done. They

441
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: picked up some pieces, uh Drell Casey from the Titans.

442
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: He's a little a little older now, but I liked

443
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: that and that move and from the Jaguars, like they're

444
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,440
Speaker 2: trying to rebuild that defense again. And if Drew Lock

445
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: can be Drew Lock, maybe I'm not betting them to

446
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: win the division, but we can hint at something a

447
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 2: little later. They're coming up here. But if Drew Lock

448
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 2: can be okay, those those that skill position group he

449
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 2: has is excellent. I loved the Broncos draft. They got

450
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: Hammler to stretch out the field even more. And I

451
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: thought Jerry Judy was the best receiver in the draft.

452
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: And he's he's just gonna see stuff there in Denver.

453
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: And I mean, I guess I'm a sucker for just

454
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 1: the total athletic freak. But Albert oh, you know, I

455
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: don't know what he's going to be able to do,

456
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 1: but man, I loved adding him as well. And obviously

457
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: they added Melvin Gordon. I mean, I don't know what

458
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 1: they're going to do with all the backs, but.

459
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 2: You know he's there.

460
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah's you know they even up you know, they they

461
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: added Graham Glasgow to the offensive line, so you know

462
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: it's going to be better. I don't love Locke. I

463
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: think that's the thing. Like I try to get excited

464
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 1: about the I know's four and one when he was uh,

465
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, in last year. But I can't. I just

466
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't fight him. Yeah, but they've they've

467
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 1: certainly given him the weapons, and they should be. It's

468
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: going to be a really interesting division because the Raiders

469
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 1: also obviously offensively, so it's going to be a really

470
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: interesting division. But Rafting, yes, well, I mean I will

471
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: say this, the Raiders go by the beat of their

472
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: own drummer. I'll say that that's how they look. Whether

473
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: it's good or bad, No, we'll find out in a

474
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 1: couple of years, but for now, Yeah, I agree with you.

475
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't think i'd be willing to beg the Chiefs

476
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: at minus four hundred, but I get it, I completely

477
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: get it. I don't think anybody else is really worth

478
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: worth a look. If I had to, would be the Chargers.

479
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: But I cannot imagine any scenario where they actually overtake

480
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So let's move to a tighter division, at

481
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: least on top, which is the NFC East. Here you've

482
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys at minus one oh five. This has

483
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: moved a little bit because I think I checked it

484
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: last week and it was at plus one ten, so

485
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: it's moved a little bit. The Eagles now at plus

486
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: one forty, so not that big of a difference. Then

487
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: you've got a big drop to the Giants at plus

488
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: eight hundred and the Redskins at plus twelve hundred, So

489
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Speaker 1: you're all over the Redskins, right, that's what I care? Well,

490
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: are you Wait?

491
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: No, no, I have a note here there. I'm like, well,

492
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 2: if they get Cam Newton, maybe I like it. I

493
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: don't at their with their current roster, certainly not. But

494
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: this is another one of those divisions, like, yeah, the

495
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: Cowboys should be the favorite. They had, they had another

496
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: good draft, they added Ceede Lamb, which makes their receiving

497
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 2: more ridiculous, and they've got that line and Zeke and

498
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: they should be the favorites.

499
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: But you're no Jason Witten anymore though, to be clear,

500
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: I mean.

501
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: I didn't think too hard about Jason whitting here in

502
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: my analysis, to be fair. But then it's the Cowboys, right,

503
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: You're just like waiting for them to go eight and

504
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: eight again, and then they make the weird move. Like

505
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 2: I think it's a good football move to have Andy

506
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 2: Dalton as your backup, but it's kind of like, hey,

507
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 2: like Dak, get the job done if you don't, like,

508
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: we're going to put in this other guy who is

509
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 2: despite all of the jokes made about Andy Dalton, he's

510
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 2: thrown thirty touchdowns several times in his NFL career.

511
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: And yeah, oh interesting. So you read that as like

512
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: a challenge to Dak, because I read it as more

513
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: just saying, like, you know what, backup quarterback is a

514
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: really underrated position in this league, and God forbid something

515
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: happens to Dak, we need somebody to back them up.

516
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you know you've got the contract issue

517
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 1: with the Dak and everything, but I mean I still

518
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: I viewed it much more as not anything relating to

519
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: Dak or his contract or anything like that, and much

520
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: more about the we have a really good team here

521
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: and getting our backup quarterback is something that's really important

522
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 1: if God forbid, Dak goes down.

523
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: But what if what if camp comes around and Dak

524
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: is just like Dak is great. I like Dak, But

525
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: if Andy Dalton comes in and just blows the doors

526
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 2: off a training camp and he looks like the better quarterback. Like,

527
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that's out of the realm of possibilities.

528
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: So anytime you inject that kind of thought into a

529
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: locker room, I think there could be some problem, all right,

530
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,959
Speaker 2: So I don't And it's the Cowboys, right, like they

531
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: should have been better than eight and eight last year.

532
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, look, and I'm not I'm not

533
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 1: gonna say the praisers of Mike McCarthy, trust me, but

534
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: it's obviously a different coaching staff. Yeah, I mean it's

535
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: the same you know, you've got Cal Morris still there,

536
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: so you've got the same offensive coordinator, of course, but

537
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: you know you do have a different coaching staff now,

538
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: so you know whether or not you can say same

539
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: old Cowboys. But I agree, something does not feel right

540
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: ever about backing the Cowboys as the fans like, it

541
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: just doesn't doesn't feel right. What about the Eagles?

542
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: But the Eagles didn't Like I was expecting them to

543
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: come in and have like a good offseason and then

544
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: they do something crazy and draft Jalen Hurts from the

545
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: second round and then I'm like, now I don't know

546
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: what to do with the Eagles as well. Like it's

547
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: the same sort of scenario. They can say all they

548
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: want about they're gonna use him as a like a

549
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: tas a Taysom Hill kind of got, But he's not

550
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: Taysom Hill. He's just not He's a different type of quarterback.

551
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: I don't think he's an exceptional quarterback to begin with.

552
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't have invested a second round draft pick

553
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: in Jalen Hurts just because he has accuracy issues. When

554
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: he was against tougher competition in the se see he

555
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: had he barely completed fifty percent of his passes, and

556
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: obviously he goes to the Big twelve and tears it up.

557
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: But it's a big twelve that a lot of people

558
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: do that. So I'm a little more iffy on the

559
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: jail and hurt stuff. But it just it's just another

560
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: one of these things where, well, they've always had these

561
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: issues with Carson went staying healthy and in years past,

562
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: like it seems almost like fans and fully wanted Carson

563
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: Wentz to get hurt once the playoffs came around, just

564
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: so they could start Nick Foles.

565
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, no I didn't.

566
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: And it's just a weird situation. I don't like anything

567
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: in this division, is my point.

568
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I agree that it's not a division

569
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: that I probably will be placing a bed, and I

570
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: probably would if I had to go with the Eagles,

571
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: in part because I well, certainly I'm not going with

572
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: the Giants or the Redskins, you know, regardless of their number.

573
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: I think it partially is that I can't really trust

574
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever, in the move to McCarthy does not

575
00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: inspire me with any additional confidence, given that he he

576
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: strikes me as a Jason Garrett clone at this point.

577
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: But with the Eagles, I mean, in the end, there's

578
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Number One, they were they were

579
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: really decimated in their secondary last year and they are

580
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: pretty much every year asen. But you know, hopefully, you know,

581
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: guys like McLeod and Maddox and Jalen Mills can can

582
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: step up right now. But they also had the two

583
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: they've they added there. They got Darius Slay, they got

584
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: Roby Coleman. They're they're gonna be better there. They've got

585
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, their their their line is you know, their

586
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: defensive front is scary at this point, you know, because

587
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: you've got Fletcher Cox you've got Malik Jackson back, You've

588
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: got Jason Hargrave. You know, they they've got a pretty

589
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, their defense is going to be better than

590
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: it was last year. And then you know, look you've

591
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: got offensively. Yeah it was weird, man. They did draft Riggers,

592
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: so they they've got that. And you know, Deshaun Jackson

593
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: certainly had something left before he went down. You never

594
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: know about al Sean. I get it that, you know,

595
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: he who knows what he's able to do. He still

596
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, Earth's and everything like that. They they've got

597
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: pieces on offensive and I think Sanders is generally ready

598
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: to carry the load. You know, I would like it

599
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: if they had, not for fantasy purposes, but for betting purposes,

600
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: if they had sort of someone in the Jordan Howard

601
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: role better than Boston Scott. But for me, they're a

602
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: team that I think could be way better than they

603
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: were last or same with the Cowboys. But I'll just

604
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: take the better coach team and the one that I'm

605
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: getting plus money on. So for me, if I had to,

606
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: I probably won't. I don't love the value, but if

607
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: I had to, I think the Eagles probably represent the

608
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: best value in the division.

609
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: I think so as well. Like you said, the plus money,

610
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: the more experienced of the two, and the better coach team.

611
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Despite if I'm betting against the Cowboys as a favorite,

612
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm probably doing something, okay, So yes, let's move on

613
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: to the NFC North here. This one, I think, top

614
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: to bottom is probably the closest. The Vikings are the

615
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: leaders at plus one sixty, the Packers right behind them

616
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: though at plus one seventy five, the Bears at plus

617
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: four hundred, and the Lions at plus five point fifty.

618
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: I believe the Lions are sort of the you know,

619
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: the shortest odds for any you know, the one the

620
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: lowest in the division. So interesting that it's this close.

621
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: But how do you feel about this one NFC North.

622
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm very excited just to watch it. I'm excited to

623
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: see what goes on with the Packers, and I think

624
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 2: the Packers should probably be the favorites, if not for

625
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: all this YEP craziness with drafting, Jordan Love and Lafleur

626
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: basically just walking around like this is my team.

627
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: Insane, right, This is the most insane thing I've ever seen.

628
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: You have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

629
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: You went thirteen and three last year with pretty much

630
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: nobody for him to throw the ball to, and you

631
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: don't do anything to add to his ability to sort

632
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: of take I get that they were one of the

633
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: worst thirteen and three teams probably of all time, Like

634
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: they were not that good, but they're still close enough

635
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: where man, get this guy a legitimate wide receiver, get

636
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: him something, and instead you basically you think your middle

637
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: finger at him in that draft. It's crazy.

638
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: And I love I like, I loved aj Dillon coming

639
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 2: into this draft, but not for they They essentially their Packers'

640
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: two best players last year, where their quarterback and their

641
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: running back, and their first two picks for a quarterback

642
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 2: and running back. And I don't I don't get it.

643
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see. I can't put

644
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: any money on the Packers. I don't have a lot

645
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: of faith in Like, the Vikings have a great defense

646
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: and Dalvin Cooks should with like who just uh Kubiak

647
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: is now the offensive coordinator there and so you know

648
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: they're going to want to give cook the ball a lot.

649
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: But Kirk Cousins is still there and and as much

650
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: as they did a good job by drafting Jefferson, I

651
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: liked him a lot. He's not Stefan Diggs right yet,

652
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 2: and so that that passing offense is going to take

653
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 2: a step back, I think. And so sorry you can.

654
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I didn't want to interrupt you. I'm sorry.

655
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: I first of all, I agree with you there. I

656
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: think the Packers should be favored. I think the Packers

657
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: are going to win the division. I don't mind them

658
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: at plus one seventy five. So if I had to

659
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: do something, it would probably be then. I mean, you

660
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: take away the nonsense with the draft, which really was crazy.

661
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: They have not had a particularly good offseason. I mean

662
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: you'll you know, they added Devin fun just like that's great,

663
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: That's not really gonna do it. I think there's a

664
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: chance that Alan Lazard or you know, Jay Sternberger can

665
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: kind of step up for Rogers. And I could totally

666
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: see this being an f U season from Rogers, like

667
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: to his coaching staff, to the you know, to the management,

668
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: to everyone and him going nuts, you know, for one

669
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: last hurrah.

670
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: So I could see that, Yeah, that is totally on

671
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 2: the table. At what point does laflour get what if

672
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: he starts calling his own plates?

673
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: You don't know that's right on the table. That's completely

674
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: on the table where he's gonna be Laflorda's gonna be

675
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: calling players and Rogers is going to completely disregard and

676
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: just doupid everyone.

677
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: It's completely I saw this stat though. It was a

678
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: like for a guy who hasn't really done anything in

679
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: the NFL to like kind of have the bravado that

680
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: he does. I'm talking about Lafleur, and it's kind of impressive.

681
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: There was something like what was the stat It was

682
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: something the Titans points for played. The year before he

683
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: was the OC, they were something like seventeen, and the

684
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: year after whatever they were they were, they were top

685
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: ten and points per play last year and the year

686
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: he was the OC they were twenty seven.

687
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: Yes, that's the point. I mean, I remember when he

688
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: got the job, it was like, wait, I don't understand.

689
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: It was just you're not Mike McCarthy, so you're an

690
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: upgrade I guess, yeah. But nothing in his resume was

691
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: like you're this offensive guru or anything remotely close to that.

692
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: So he felt he fit the Sean McVay tree, I

693
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: think for them, and that was that was about it.

694
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: But so for me at this looking at this list,

695
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with the Bears A plus

696
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 2: four hundred.

697
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: I I was gonna I know, I was gonna ask

698
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: you about them because other than the fact that you know,

699
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Mike Teglaire, who I work with closely, is a huge

700
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Bears fan, and it's Kallie. It's a miserable this whole offseason.

701
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: There is a there is a scenario you see where

702
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: they could be much much better than they were last year,

703
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: where I believe they were eight and eight last year anyway,

704
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like they were terrible. Despite how terrible

705
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: they seemed, they could be much better if despite sort

706
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: of some of their questionable moves.

707
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: So you think, yes, this is another one of those

708
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: cases we have to pray. Preface the preface this by saying,

709
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: if Matt Naggy gets out of his own ways, I think,

710
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: just just make full of the starter. He's the guy

711
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: who's not gonna lose you games, and he can actually

712
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: make some throws every now and then. They have a

713
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: decent receiving core in Chicago, and give David Montgomery the

714
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: ball like a lot. Give it to him a lot,

715
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: and that's all you need. With the defense, that is

716
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: still I think one of the better in the NFL.

717
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: If they run the ball well and Foles make the throat,

718
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: makes the throws when he needs to, and the def

719
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: is what we expected to be, there's there's definitely a

720
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: path to a big improvement from the Bears this year.

721
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 2: So I like that's the one I would put the

722
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: money on.

723
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: I think also, Yeah, I mean, look, they've got the

724
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: best tight end depth in the world, right They've got

725
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: like ten tight ends on their roster or whatever they have.

726
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: They drafted Comet just to just to make sure, just

727
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: to make sure you have too many, yes, especially after

728
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: you added Jimmy Graham for a terrible deal. Yeah. The

729
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: thing about Foles, honestly is, you know, all the all

730
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: the people that are going to be involved in the

731
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: offense right now, Bill Laser, John d Filippa, even Want

732
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Castillo is there for the run. They all have a relationship,

733
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: a previous relationship with Foles. It does seem like he's

734
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: somebody who could really get it done. They did not

735
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: pick up the fifty year option on Trubisky, so you know,

736
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: but they're probably gonna go into it with an open

737
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: competition if it is Foles yeah, I agree there is

738
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: a path there to get it. I don't think I'm

739
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: ready to go there plus four hundred, but it certainly

740
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: is something where I have no problem looking at it.

741
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: That was something that did stick out. It's something where

742
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: I've probably been jaded by the fact that, you know,

743
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: this offseason has been so horrific for them that I

744
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: don't think I could build the trigger. But it's definitely

745
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: something that I was like, Oh, you know, there's a

746
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: path at least to see where this team could win it. Yeah,

747
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: let's go on here to the NFC South. You've got

748
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: the Saints as the favorite at minus one ten, the

749
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Bucks at plus one oh five, the Falcons then at

750
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: plus one thousand, and the Panthers down at plus two

751
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: thousand and so are you all in on Brady or what.

752
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm not? And Brady just tanked the Bucks about like this,

753
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: there's no way they should be plus one oh five. Like,

754
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: I love Brady and I love this is a fun

755
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: year and Gronk's back and the draft seem to like

756
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: fall perfectly for them. I was like, oh, this seems

757
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: a little fishy the way these guys are falling to

758
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: them in the draft. But you can't. You can't take

759
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: them over the Saints at this point they have that experience.

760
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: Drew Brees is obviously trying to make one more push

761
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: and the and the Saints had a nice little draft.

762
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 2: I thought they secured Keep Keep Breeze up right the

763
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: thank you. So I just if you're making me like

764
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: for those two teams, which I think it will come

765
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: down to, you kind of always hope that the Falcons

766
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: when you see a number at like ten to one

767
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: and plus thousand there, you're hoping that maybe this is

768
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: one of those Falcons years where they're good but their

769
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: secondary got worse and their draft was another one of

770
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: those ones where.

771
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: You were terrible.

772
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,760
Speaker 2: Your head, you're like, huh, you could have traded down

773
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: and got the exact same guy and got another pick, right,

774
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: go ahead, you go ahead, and you do that. So

775
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't have I think they're gonna try to run

776
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: the tires off Todd Gurley. They're just gonna be like,

777
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: let's have one year where we just run him into

778
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 2: the ground. He probably only has two years left anyway,

779
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: So I expect them to go crazy with Gurley. Yeah,

780
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: but but I just I can't. I can't do it.

781
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: With the Falcons. So for me, it's the Saints breeze.

782
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: They're they're they're the known quantity. I like the offense

783
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: a lot, and I think I think they're the team

784
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: to be by. And you'll see it in Week one

785
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: when they play the when they play the Bucks.

786
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. If there's a bet here,

787
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: it's the Saints at minus one ten. One thing that

788
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: worries me a tiny bit is that we you know,

789
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: part of it is the Saints great home field advantage.

790
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: We don't know if they're even going to be fans there,

791
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: which which could hurt them in that sense of it.

792
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: But overall, no, I agree with it. And again, part

793
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: of the thing is we don't know about the offseason programs.

794
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: We don't know if Brady is going to have any

795
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: real ability to interact with you know that the new

796
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: guys that is going to be playing with, whether Evans

797
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: and Godwin will get there. Obviously, Gronk's got to get back,

798
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: and who knows what Gronk is going to be able to.

799
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: Some of these some of these Gronk props I found

800
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: so crazy, like some of the some of the numbers

801
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: they've set for him. I was like, guys, see, he

802
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: was mostly healthy in his last year. Mostly I'll say

803
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: mostly because he's obviously a football player and he's banged

804
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: up and he had some injuries, but he there and

805
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 2: his numbers, he's just he's just the toll has the

806
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: game has taken on him. It seems to be a lot.

807
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he plays more than like seven games, I'm

808
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: gonna die of shock in the end. All right, let's

809
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: move on here to our final division. The NFC WES

810
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers are the favorites at plus one fifteen,

811
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and at plus two twenty five Rams at

812
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: plus four hundred, and the Cardinals plus nine hundred. You

813
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: like anybody here?

814
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,479
Speaker 2: Uh, if you're gonna make me take anybody, I'm gonna

815
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: go with Russell Wilson. I think he's the best quarterback

816
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 2: in the division. And you're getting that plus two thirty

817
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: ish kind of range. Well, another team where I was like, geez,

818
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: I wish they drafted a little better.

819
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: Oh God, I don't understand. I mean, look, we're you know,

820
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: NFL front offices are there for a reason, and they've

821
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: made it to that point. But man, there are so

822
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: many especially this year, you know, or generally speaking, were

823
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: there are picks where it's like, universally everybody who final

824
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: slip it is like, this doesn't make any sense. Why

825
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: would you do this?

826
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: What's happening the Seahawks Number one thing every year is like, geez,

827
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: let's get Russell Wilson's more protection. He is one of

828
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: maybe the top three quarterbacks in the league. Let's let's

829
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: keep him as healthy as possible. And then they like

830
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: no offense to their first overall peck pick Jordan that's

831
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 2: his last name, out of a Texas Tech. But there

832
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: was linemen available there they could have taken, and I

833
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: was just draft lineman, keep him upright, And it's a

834
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: little disappointed, but I just I can't count them out

835
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: despite that, because realistically, he hasn't had an offensive line

836
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: since their super Bowl years and he still made the

837
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: playoffs most seasons. It feels like and.

838
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: And there they were a play away from winning the

839
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: division last year. I mean that exactly thing, right, and

840
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: it is Wilson. Wilson is a model buster for lack

841
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: of a better way to say it, right, I mean,

842
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: he makes the Seahawks so much better than they otherwise

843
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: would be. But yeah, even he was like, I need

844
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: some help, give me some help right now, and they're like, nah, nah,

845
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 1: you're okay, you're right. Also, by the way, if they

846
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: ever changed the offense, which they probably never will, and

847
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: they stop doing the Brian Schottenheimer, now let's run. Let's

848
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: run all right now. It's third and four, go ahead

849
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: until we fall behind, in which case we will let

850
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson do whatever he wants. And the offense looks

851
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: completely unstoppable. If they would ever just be like, maybe

852
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: we should just let Russell Wilson kind of run this

853
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: show from the very start of the game, they'd probably

854
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: do a lot better. But even with all that, even

855
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: with all that, they were a play away from winning

856
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: the division last year.

857
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: So that's the biggest thing. I don't understand that they

858
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: have one of the best, He's proven to be one

859
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 2: of the best passes in the league, and they still

860
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: like I love I love Chris Carson in fantasy. Sure,

861
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: but they need they need to open it up for

862
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: him a little bit.

863
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I for me, I will talk about

864
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: it a little bit here in a second. I see

865
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: a path for the Rams to be, you know, kind

866
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: of get back up being a really good team, but

867
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't of it at plus four hundred. I think,

868
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: you know, that's the thing here, right exactly. I might

869
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: like them, you know, some other futures with them, but

870
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: not to win the division plus four hundred. It's hard

871
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: to see it being either the forty nine ers, anybody

872
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: other than the forty nine ers or the Sea Ooks.

873
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: I probably would just you know, go with the Chalk.

874
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: It's plus money with the forty nine ers because you know,

875
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: again they're largely intact. They lost the fart, yeah exactly,

876
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: they lost Joe Stale. They lost Joe Staley, so but

877
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, they replaced you know, Buckner and Emmanuel Sanders

878
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,720
Speaker 1: with kin Laan. You you know, it's hard to really

879
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: get too worked up about anything they did. They're a

880
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: very good team, their world coach. So I would probably

881
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: go chalk with them. But either way, I have no

882
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: problem with the Seahawks.

883
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: Certainly, I don't hate what the Cardinals are doing, by

884
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: the way, don't hate it, but I'm not gonna bet

885
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 2: the med plus nine divisions.

886
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing. They really they're probably the most

887
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: improved team in the NFL right now, coming in. They

888
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: they've had a tremendous uh off season, and you know,

889
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: their draft was fine and they helped the offensive line

890
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: by drafting Josh Jones. But yeah, I just don't think

891
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: that they are at the point at plus nine hundred.

892
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: It's just not enough. They again, it's not making the playoffs.

893
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: It's not you know, even if they have a great

894
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: team to overtake all those teams to win the division

895
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: just seems way too unlikely.

896
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: A quick fantasy thing for anyone who has a super

897
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: flex with QBS. Chris Streveler is going to score many

898
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: touchdowns this year. I think he is a guy I'm

899
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: from Canada. I know the CFL. This guy just won

900
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: the Great Cup with the Winnipeg Blue Bombers and they

901
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: signed him two B Taysom Hill. That's what they signed

902
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: him to be. They're going to use him at the

903
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: goal line and that is He scored fourteen touchdowns for

904
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: the Blue Bombers inside the inside the one yard line

905
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 2: or something like that last year. And he still threw

906
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: another twelve which was which was pretty good. But yeah,

907
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: watch it for this.

908
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 1: Chris Trevler did Canadian fantasy tip coming on the Betting

909
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: pros prowncast. Andrew gayly. I love it all right, here's

910
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. Let's go the AFC winner. I

911
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: Am just going to list all of the odds, okay,

912
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: just so everybody knows what they all are, and then

913
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: you just tell me which if any really jumps out

914
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: to you as one you like. The Chiefs are the

915
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: favorite to win the AFC at plus two eighty, then

916
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens at plus three thirty three, followed by the

917
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: Pats at plus one thousand, the Steelers at plus twelve hundred,

918
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: the Colts, Titans, and Bills all at plus fourteen hundred,

919
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: the Browns at plus sixteen hundred, the Charters at plus

920
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: two thousand, the Broncos and the Texans all the way

921
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: at plus twenty five hundred, the Raiders at plus three thousand,

922
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Jets at plus four thousand, the

923
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: Bengals at plus five thousand, and your favorite, the Jags

924
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: at plus ten thousand. So any of those jump out

925
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: at you as good value.

926
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: If anyone gives you what ten thousand one, you always do.

927
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, Kevin Malone. If anyone gives you ten

928
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: thousand to one on anything you take, And if John

929
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: Cougar Mellencamp, ever wins an Oscar, I'll be a rich time,

930
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: all right.

931
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: Obviously, I think the Chiefs and Ravens the class of

932
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: the AFC, and but the odds reflect that quite obviously.

933
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm we'll get to this a little later, so I

934
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 2: probably won't bet either of them to win the AFC.

935
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: So I probably look at a little longer shot. And

936
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: we talked about them a bit earlier. The Colts at

937
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: plus fourteen hundred I really like, and the other one

938
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: is the Broncos at plus twenty five hundred. This obviously

939
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: is all encompassing if Drew Locke is a serviceable quarterback.

940
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: If he's not, obviously that goes right down the window. Sure,

941
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: right out the window. But those are the numbers that

942
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: jumped out on jump out of the board. Yep for me,

943
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: the Colts at plus fourteen hundred and the Broncos at

944
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 2: plus twenty five hundred, yep. Like what both teams are

945
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: doing heading into this season. Yeah.

946
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: The one that I have already placed a bet on,

947
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: and the one I like the most are the Cults

948
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: at plus fourteen hundred. Again, I really like what they've done.

949
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I've like I said, I'd probably still bet

950
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: them to win the division, even though the odds they're

951
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: the favorite and the odds aren't really that great. But

952
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: if you're giving me plus fourteen hundred to win the FC, yeah,

953
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: there's there's an easy path for that to happen, if

954
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: everything breaks right and if they are as good as

955
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: they possibly can be. I think not. I said, easy path.

956
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to get hate mail. Not an easy path.

957
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: There's obviously you've still got the big two standing in

958
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: front of them, but yeah, that's the one that struck

959
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: me as most value as well. Let's move on to

960
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: the NFC here, and the favorites are a little longer.

961
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: Here.

962
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: You've got the forty nine Ers at plus four to

963
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: seventy five, the Bucks at plus six hundred, my goodness,

964
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: all the Brady love, just all of it. The Saints

965
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: at plus six fifty, the Cowboys at plus nine hundred,

966
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles at plus one thousand, the Seahawks at plus

967
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: eleven hundred, the Packers and the Vikings at plus thirteen hundred,

968
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: the Rams at plus sixteen hundred, the Falcons and the

969
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: Bears at plus two thousand, the Cardinals at plus twenty

970
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: five hundred, the Lions at plus twenty eight hundred, the

971
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: Giants at plus four thousand, and the Redskins and the

972
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: Panthers at plus forty five hundred. So no ten thousand

973
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: odds here. But what do you like here?

974
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: Anybody among the favorites. It's definitely the Saints at plus

975
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: six fifty. I can't believe they're buying Bucks. It's crazy,

976
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy.

977
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Again, this is just sort of a point that's not

978
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere. No, you know, so let's make that clear.

979
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: Those are the contentancies. But at fandel for example, the

980
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: Bucks are plus seven hundred, the Saints are plus six fifty.

981
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: So it does vary. But yeah, it's crazy that it's there,

982
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely that.

983
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: It's that much. And the other ones that stuck out

984
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: to me were the Seahawks once again we touched on

985
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: why at plus eleven hundred, the Bears at plus two thousand,

986
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 2: and you mentioned them as well, the Rams at plus

987
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 2: sixteen hundred, though those ones were the ones that seem

988
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: to be outliers in terms of value.

989
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, again it is I alluded to it earlier.

990
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: It is the Rams. For me, this is just sort

991
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: of a team that I feel like they went nine

992
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: and seven last year, but they just felt like it

993
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: was the worst team you ever saw, and you know,

994
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Jared Goff was terrible, and really that was because the

995
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: offensive line was pretty terrible. I mean they were signing

996
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: guys off the street and throwing them in the starting

997
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: lineup right off the bat. So it's the type of

998
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: thing where unfortunately they haven't really bulked that up that well.

999
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: So it's they really if they stay healthy though, they

1000
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: have enough to sort of make it going. And I

1001
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: also think that McVeigh, having seen what it looked like,

1002
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: when oh, wait, this is not what we need to

1003
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: We need to figure some way around this offensive line,

1004
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: I think you give him enough time to do that

1005
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: that he'll spend the off season figuring out how to

1006
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: get around that. Obviously, they lost Gurley and Brandon Cooks,

1007
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: but they added Acres and Ben Jefferson, and I liked

1008
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: kind of what they did with the defense in the draft.

1009
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: I like the two Turell's they drafted, Lewis and Burgess.

1010
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of upside, so I

1011
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: could see them sort of surprising and being good. So

1012
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: if you're giving me plus sixteen hundred, that's something that

1013
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm willing to take a taste on, so I agree

1014
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: with you on that one. All right, real quick, here

1015
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I mean, it's probably pretty similar to

1016
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: who you like and who you don't. But the Chiefs

1017
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: at plus six huns hundred, Ravens at plus seven hundred,

1018
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: forty nine, Ers at plus nine hundred, Saints at plus

1019
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: eleven hundred, Bucks at plus twelve hundred, So the Saints

1020
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: are actually, you know, the veter odds there. The Cowboys

1021
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: at plus eighteen hundred, the Eagles at plus two thousand,

1022
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks at plus twenty two hundred, along with the Patriots

1023
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: also at plus twenty two hundred, the Steelers, Packers, and

1024
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Vikings all at plus twenty five hundred, the Colts and

1025
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 1: the Bills at plus twenty eight hundred, the Titans at

1026
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: plus three thousand, the Browns and the Rams at plus

1027
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: thirty three hundred, the Falcons, Chargers and Bears all at

1028
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: plus four thousand, the Cardinals, Broncos and Texans at plus

1029
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: five thousand, the Lions and Raiders at plus six thousand,

1030
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at plus eight thousand, along with the Giants

1031
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: and the Panthers, Bengals, Jets at plus ten thousand, which

1032
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: obviously you have to bet because of the office adage.

1033
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: The Redskins at plus fifteen thousand and the Jaguars at

1034
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: plus twenty thousand. I mean, I don't know when it comes

1035
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: down to it that, but what do you got here?

1036
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: So for me, this is the this is the point

1037
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: where I'll I'll sprinkle something both on the Chiefs and

1038
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: Ravens at plus six and seven hundred respectively. I honestly

1039
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: think they're the best two teams with the with the

1040
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: Niners being closely there as well. But I just I

1041
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: just think the super Bowl winner is going to come

1042
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: from the AFC, and for me, it's one of those

1043
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 2: two teams. So I'm gonna put something on each and

1044
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: hopes that one of them is the Super Bowl victor.

1045
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: And the thing is, those odds aren't going to get better,

1046
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: Like those aren't going to improve if you're waiting for

1047
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: Week eight and maybe the Chiefs and Ravens have a

1048
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: little slip up there, it's those odds aren't going to

1049
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 2: get better either way. So if you if you like them,

1050
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: take now's the time to take them. And that's I

1051
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: I do have a little sprinkle on each right now.

1052
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: To win the Super Bowl.

1053
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: Yep, I completely agree, because the odds that you're getting

1054
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: there are good enough for you to just wager a

1055
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: little bit. I also, I would put a little something

1056
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: on the Saints at plus eleven hundred. I mean, this

1057
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: is the last are off for Breeze. This is it.

1058
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: He's retiring next year. Can almost guarantee you. So for me,

1059
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna do a little sprinkle anywhere else,

1060
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: I think that's where it would be at plus eleven hundred.

1061
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: All right, let us finish up. We've got Week one lines.

1062
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna list them here because people are probably

1063
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: tired of hearing me list lines. So why don't you

1064
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: go ahead and tell me we've both looked at them.

1065
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: Tell me anything that jumps out to you as something

1066
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: you feel like at now you might be making a

1067
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Speaker 1: play on.

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Speaker 2: So it's funny that we said that. One of the

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00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: ones that jumped out to me right away last night

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Speaker 2: were the Jags at plus seven. It was plus seven

1071
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: and a half before it's down to seven. Now that

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00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: makes me a little more where that's against the Colts.

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Speaker 2: We've talked up quite a lot here today. Yep. The

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00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: Dolphins at plus seven as well. You can also see

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Speaker 2: that at seven and a half at some spots, the

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00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: Bears at plus one and a half against the Lions,

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Speaker 2: and the Rams getting two and a half to three

1078
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: points at home against the Cowboys. And we just talked

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00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: up the Rams that is on Sunday night on Week one.

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Speaker 2: I believe that's might be my favorite. I like the

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Speaker 2: Rams getting the points at home against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Interesting.

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00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Jags one is funny just because like

1084
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: they're bad, They're gonna be bad, but I don't think

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00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: they're that bad as people are as people are projecting,

1086
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: and I think they'll be a little scrappy. And the

1087
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 2: Colts that's Week one, so maybe the Colts will still

1088
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: be Like with all of these, who knows what the

1089
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: workout and offseas and programs are gonna be. And it's

1090
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: not like Philip Rivers has been a great bet over

1091
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: the last few years. Obviously, teams are different and that

1092
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: has an effect, but he hasn't been like an outstanding

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00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: bet sort of thing is during his uh his last

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00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 2: five years sort of thing. Yep, But yeah, I like

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00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: I like the Jags. If you're getting I would say

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00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 2: i'd like the Jags if you're getting more than a touchdown,

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00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: And same with the Dolphins in that scenario, just because

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00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we're gonna get from the Patriots

1099
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: at that point. Yea, And even though it's it's it's

1100
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: early in the season, it's still the warm well depending

1101
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: on when the season starts, warm weather, New England. And yeah,

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00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 2: so those are the ones that jumped out to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like a couple of those as well. And

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Speaker 1: I think the one thing is you noted, I mean

1105
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: the lines. The schedule just drop, so the lines have

1106
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: just come out, so they're moving. I mean I looked,

1107
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: legitimately looked at this ten minutes before we started recording,

1108
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: and some of them have moved already. So a couple

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00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: of ones that I like. And I think the point

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00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 1: that you made, which in the early part of the season,

1111
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: it's worth it to kind of look at necessarily what

1112
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: teams are bringing in a lot of new pieces, because

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00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: you feel like they probably will be a little bit

1114
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: behind necessarily. So if there are a ton of new

1115
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: pieces coming in, it is something where you probably need

1116
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: to assume that they may not have all that much

1117
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: time to gel and get working together. A couple ones

1118
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: that's suck out to me are the Steelers getting a

1119
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: field goal from the Giants. It's in the Meadowlands, so

1120
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the Giants are home. That's the first

1121
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 1: Monday night game. But again, this is something where I

1122
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: feel like the Steelers may be a little under valued

1123
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: early in the season because we don't know exactly what

1124
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: they're necessarily going to look like. Another one I liked

1125
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: was the Seahawks at the Falcons, the Seahawks getting one again.

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Speaker 1: We talked about why we generally are willing to back

1127
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: the Seahawks more than we otherwise would be based on

1128
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: the team. But again, this is something where I'm looking

1129
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: at it and whatever they do, however they play football,

1130
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's going to be with a full

1131
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: stadium of fans sitting right next to each other, whether

1132
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: or not they are using crowd noise or whatever it is.

1133
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: But it's not going to be exactly the same home

1134
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: field environment, at least not right off the bat. So

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks playing in Atlanta, which is, you know,

1136
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: a dome and a pretty large home field advantage, it

1137
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: probably doesn't play the exact same way as it otherwise

1138
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: would So that's something for me where I'm looking at

1139
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: the Seahawks there. Finally, the only other one is the

1140
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: Raiders getting one and a half from the Panthers. Look,

1141
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: the Raiders are not a bad team. They may have

1142
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: some questionable draft choices. I don't exactly know what they're

1143
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: doing completely, but for the most part, they're intact. They've

1144
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: added a lot of new wide receivers and everything like that,

1145
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: but you know, it's the same coaching staff. It's going

1146
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: to be, I'm sure the same quarterback. I don't expect

1147
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: Mariota to take it over, and they should be in

1148
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: pretty decent shape. And the Panthers are like a completely

1149
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: new system going on here. They've obviously added a new

1150
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: head coach, They've added Robby Anderson, They've added Teddy Bridgewater.

1151
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: They just drafted their entire defense in this draft. So

1152
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: I think their inability to get together throughout this is

1153
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: something that might hurt them at least in the early

1154
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: part of the season, and in Week one.

1155
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: They might be one of the worst teams in football

1156
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: outside of Christian mccovery.

1157
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Speaker 1: I mean, look, with the way you know, with the

1158
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: way mem Rule does his stuff, they terrible the first year.

1159
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: Every time he takes over a new program right before

1160
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: they get they get better.

1161
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Speaker 2: So it's watch out for PJ Walker, right, But that's

1162
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: my bold prediction for the season. PJ Walker, a form

1163
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 2: of the Houston Roughnecks in the XFL, has a makes

1164
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: at least a handful of starts for the for the Panthers.

1165
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: Who I love it. Well, hopefully you can find a

1166
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: line on that so you can all right, that is

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for today's show. We talked about a lot, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming on. I love catching up

1169
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Speaker 1: with you. You've been on a bunch of times. You're

1170
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guests. So just remind everybody where

1171
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: they can find more of you and your work, especially

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Speaker 1: about the KBO that's going on now.

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Speaker 2: You can find me and my daily KBO coom over

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Speaker 2: at covers dot com and I tweet out most of

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Speaker 2: my plays at covers Underscore Kaylee on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, thanks again for coming on. Don't forget that. Over

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1178
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Speaker 1: over at betting pros dot com slash NFL. Everybody, stay safe,

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. I'll talk to you next time.