WEBVTT - #401 - GoldToes & Mr. Lil One 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.440 Yeah, bluelet Cat Podcast Match special guests in here, two 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:10.280 of them, my guy go toes. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:11.840 Yeah, what's happening? What's happening? 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.120 Mister little one A came you know, yo yo, yo yo. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:15.960 Glad to be here. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:17.920 We got the Bay in San Diego in the building 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:19.360 right now. Yeah, what's going on? 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:20.760 The first of all, why y'all sit out the game 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:21.239 one more time? 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:22.280 The Bay in San Diego? 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:23.840 Yeah, the West Coast? 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.320 Baby, Yeah, what brings you guys here together? 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:28.440 We got a few things. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:33.559 Man. He had just wrote a song that I uh, 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:35.199 that he wrote for him. We didn't write, you know, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.080 he wrote a song for me. I said, man, I 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:39.279 want to want to do something different, and he had 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.040 a track man, and I was like, man, I'm feeling 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.600 that one. Let me get on that. And he blessed 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:45.760 me with the writing and I got up on there 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:47.879 and it came out really good. So it's a new 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.520 song called wake Up. Actually, we're gonna be at KA today. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:51.600 We're going to feature the song. 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:52.600 Wait so you're rapping? 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:53.880 Yeah yeah, I'm rapping on there. 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.400 How long have you Ben rap? 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:57.440 Ben Rapp? Yeah? 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.680 Well you know, oh I saw old school like album 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:00.400 cover yours? 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:00.600 Right? 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:01.160 Yeah? 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.800 Yeah, yeah, So this is not new to you. 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.759 No, nah, nah, I ain't new to me. But but 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.959 what I say, I don't consider myself a rap. I'm 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:08.520 a reciter. 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:08.759 Man. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:10.839 I have fun because people got to write the raps 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.920 for me. So I just take the words, you know, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.120 and do what I do, have some fun with it. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.040 That's what music is about, if you put them out 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.039 back in the day. Yeah, the gold Rush about fifteen 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:21.520 years ago. 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:21.959 Fun. 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:23.600 Yeah, And I think. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.039 People see you as like an executive. 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.040 I was I when I did Black and Brown Entertainment. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.360 I was. I was an executive for. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.480 The first you know, almost ten years of it before 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.600 I even hit the mic. The first song I did 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.000 whatever was the Walk on Toes with south Park Meskin 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.600 and that that hook he did, he wrote the hook 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:39.319 that that thing was. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:40.120 All over the radio. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.800 He's definitely in the headlines a lot, even. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:47.160 Yeah saying jail, Yeah, you stay in the headline. 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.000 What is your take on kind of like that whole situation. 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.000 There's it seems as if people have like a hard 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.800 line in the sand and the letting hip hop community 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.040 where they're either like, you know, fuck him if you're 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.440 associated with him. I don't know, like it just feels like, 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.720 don't I don't know. I'm not fully educated on what 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:04.040 happened when right. I just know he got convicted, you know, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.520 But what is your thought process on the controversy currently? 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:10.920 I mean, he just went, like I always said, when 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:12.480 he gets out, he's just gonna have to speak on it. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.480 And you know, that's really all I gotta say. 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.959 When he gets out, he's gonna he's gonna get so 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:17.560 much shows. 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.680 Would I don't know, man, I mean, I don't know, 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.560 because you're gonna have uh, you know, it ain't just 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.480 happen like that. They're gonna have stipulations. I'm sure, you 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.880 know what I mean, especially with those type of charges. 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:29.560 That's fair. 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:29.920 You know. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.880 What about you, man? What's going on with with you know? 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.880 Well, like you said, uh, you know, the Chicano Music 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.080 Festival is everything to me, But beyond the artists standpoint, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.640 it's just connecting the doubts in the culture. And that's 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.200 kind of how me and go Toos just kind of 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.280 came together symmetrically and just organically, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:48.560 Besides the music. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:52.280 So when we did that song, we started sharing more music, 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:53.880 start we spent more time together. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.040 And I ended up doing a two album deal. 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:58.720 Yeah. Let me say something I really like. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.639 Uh, I didn't. When I started really getting into his music, 0:03:02.919 --> 0:03:05.160 he started sending me all these songs for me, you know, 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.079 and I started bumping. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.760 I'm like, I started going it. I'm like, man, old man. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.120 He gets down, you know, and I like the oldies 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.320 and he was flipping them tight. I'm like, oh, he 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.480 got something, you know what I'm saying. And I was, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.160 I don't know, did you think I was gonna be 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:19.440 able to flip that song when I do? 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:19.839 Yeah? 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.560 So so when he's like, yo, let's do this song. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.640 You you heard go to Go Too, got natural right, 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.600 natural spin, natural flow. You know. So when when he 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:32.760 asked me, I'm like, absolutely, you could do that. Then 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:34.560 you know, we got the lyrics out there, and then 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.440 one day he just hit me and the song was done. 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:37.120 Wow. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.080 I got it done quick too, like in a couple 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:39.680 of hours. You know. 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:39.920 Yeah. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.440 For people who don't know, you know, you're kind of 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:43.960 like you're like one of the O g's in the 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.760 Chicano rap world. How long have you been at this? 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.880 Because well, my first album, Once in a Decade, came 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.240 out in nineteen ninety six ship, you know, nainety six 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:55.560 and then and there was nine. 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.280 I gotta you know, what's crazy. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.120 I had a nine year old the other day when 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.800 I was in Reno, and he was saying, now, this 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.880 could have been what homicide or maybe this could have 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.280 been suicide from once in a decade. And he's nice 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.640 and he's nine. That's crazy, right, But I mean, you know, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.839 I've always I've always felt that, you know, the whole 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:20.000 chicono wrap thing, that's cool, but I've never really seen 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.159 it that way. I've always seen music, like he was saying, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.840 like art like no no color, no age, no no label. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.039 I've always looked at music like freedom and that and 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.600 and and so has go Tos. And I think that's 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.320 what's been able to to align us, you. 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.920 Know, not necessarily thinking in a box when it comes Yeah. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:41.839 Yeah, like you know, we thought the culture and everything, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.520 but ultimately, man, like the magnitude of what we're doing 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:45.120 is freedom. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.479 Yeah. I always tell tell people like, I think, you know, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.480 growing up because I'm from Phoenix, right, so we had 0:04:50.520 --> 0:04:53.520 Empty Magic and MB Writers and Nasty Boy Click before 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:57.240 they MB writers and all that. But like I listened to, uh, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.160 what was locals? I used to be the board off 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.640 and all that ship. Yeah, I used to all the 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.920 Lowrider shows, So I was like very hip to the culture, 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:08.360 but the music necessarily didn't ever really like a lot 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.560 of the Chicano rap shit was like very Hey, this 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:11.960 is for. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.440 Us, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And don't get me wrong, 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.440 and it is, But I mean that doesn't like there's 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.120 more than more than yeah, there's more than just sampling 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:22.960 a song and rapping. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.919 Is there sh that I was like a fan of too. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:29.560 Like, you know, everybody expects it to sound like Simon 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.760 right when there really is like skeletons being made out 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.920 of these melodies, remedies made to make memories, you know 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:36.440 what I'm saying. 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.159 Yeah, And then like I think some of the high 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:40.400 power guys are dropping shit with like Busy Bone like and. 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.160 Some of that, But like there's real mcs too, like Shadows, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:47.560 Ands and MC. You know there's real mcs too. But 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.560 so I always felt that we were so much more, 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:50.760 you know. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.880 I think Bash did a good job of breaking that 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.600 door down to be like, hey, I happen to be Latin, 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.040 but I'm making party music that if you live in 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.760 New York. 0:05:58.920 --> 0:05:59.760 You still bang it. 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.680 Out right, you can still bag it out and it's 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.839 it's still the same thing synonymously with the festival. Like 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.040 you know, the festival consists of all the cultural elements, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.440 but it's just the dwarf for everyone to come through 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:13.840 and experience the culture for sure. 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.320 You know what I'm saying. 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:18.760 On Sinco the Mayo. 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.400 Yes, it's gonna be crazy at the Legacy, the Midnighters, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.960 Slash Slacking, the Wicked, del Phonics, Jay roxx O, bet 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:30.960 By the SHA's gonna be crazy, Coyote Dope, gold Toes 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.760 in the house for gold Toes coming through. We got, Man, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.440 we got a whole bunch of stuff lined up. Like 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:38.680 I said, Man, you know, got. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:39.279 A whole layout. 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:40.480 Yeah, we got a whole layout. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.000 You know, I signed a two album deal with him. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.839 The English album will be at Chicano and the Spanish 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:49.800 and Mexicano and you know, and then we got a 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.040 joint project that we're working on together as well. So 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.720 you know, we got a lot of music, we got 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:56.679 a lot of visuals, we got a lot of shows, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:57.440 we got a lot. 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.400 Of a lot toes. I want to give you props 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.000 because I feel like you've been very instrument instrument in 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:09.920 terms of bridging the gap between Southern California Northern California Latinos. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:12.560 Yeah, you know, we're just communicating with each other. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.880 A lot more conversations are happening naturally, you know what 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:16.360 I'm saying. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.720 Uh uh, you know, and more to come. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.480 You know, it's gonna take some time, but you know, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.200 you know, it's good to communicate and get on to 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.160 another uh, you know far future. 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:27.680 I was gonna say, do you think like in terms 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:30.360 of like where that like just kind of the relationships 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:33.040 of like certain artists with certain artists from from up 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.320 north to down south, or even guys like like you, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.600 like who you've worked with, like like ten years ago. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.160 Would any of that stuff have been possible five years ago, 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.720 because it feels like there's been a lot more putting 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.680 some of the politics shit to the side and just 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:46.440 kind of uniting. 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.320 Yeah, I mean, no, it wouldn't have been possible. I 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:51.120 mean it could have been, but I mean it would 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.160 have just been a lot more. It would have been 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:57.000 a lot more I would say, more complicated and difficult. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.720 I think through the times now and what's going on, uh, 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.760 in the last few years within the prison system, I 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.280 believe has helped out things to help develop things in 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.520 the streets. And you know, there's a lot of Latins 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.800 that are not into no type of gangs or no 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.320 type of politics. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.520 That still feel subject to uh just over front, just 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:16.960 to that. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:20.120 And geographically, yeah, geographically, and there needs to be some 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.960 type of now you know, yeah, we're giving it. We're 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.400 giving it a chance to We're giving ourselves a chance 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.920 to shine a little bit and to work to work together, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.000 you know what I'm saying. So you know, it's gonna 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.840 take some time, you know, and it's happening. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.559 It's happening right now, you know, in your podcast. You know, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.720 and again I think I think beyond anything. I think 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.360 that the thing that's important here is not we're not 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.640 trying to do anything that's just transactional. We want to 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.640 do things that are transformational, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.840 And that's the energy that we're on, you know, beyond 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.200 just music, like you know, really building something a found 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.080 that comes from a foundation of purity, you know, like 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.320 this is this isn't just about a monetary gain. 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:01.640 It's much more than set. 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.400 An example, when we got together, we were like all 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:08.840 your phone connected, connect colicted. When we have when we 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.240 have a lot in common. So everything is just coming in. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.520 It's coming how it's supposed to be. We coming at 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:16.600 it how it's supposed to come. I wanted to go 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.400 to go back and give a shout out to Pocals 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.080 Spedal Locals because that was a legendary show. Yeah, because 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.600 I mean they put on a lot of that. Think 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:27.280 from everywhere. I think our tacos man, this guy's bro. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:28.719 We're in the middle of the podcast where you. 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:34.800 At the doors locked ship, give us the white bed, 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:37.040 take my phone, man, my bad. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:39.360 From the white angle. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.839 We could keep calling me and call them like fuck. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.080 Tell them you're coming. I was going to say, you know, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.760 poke Spedal Locals obviously, like I feel like kool Aid, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:54.040 I forget the DJ's name. He did a lot for 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:55.920 the culture, for sure, man, a lot. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.200 You know. I remember kool Aid was a very big 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.480 believer in it, Big bad network, you know. Yeah, and 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.400 you know grew up in Oxnart. You know the ox 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.480 Snart is heavy with the culture. Five man, Yeah, shout 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.800 out today five And you know Koolaid opened that door 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:12.199 and we came in. The more they got syndicated, the 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.360 more we got out there, so that was a good 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:15.240 plug for us. 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.920 Yeah, those those og low Rider shows were crazy. I'm 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:22.240 talking about like six oh five oh seven. Then those 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:26.080 were yanking, cranking, you know what I'm saying. Tell me 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.640 kind of like for people who don't know, you have 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.880 GT Digital, which is your distribution distribution company, yep, And 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:36.840 these days there's so many distribution companies popping up. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.920 Right everybody's trying to do it. A lot of people 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.439 try to do it, they just can't get clients. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.120 Well, that's what I was gonna say for you, like, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.599 because I'm really you know, obviously I'm real typ with 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.120 Gazi and Nina and those guys, and as you are. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:48.880 You do a lot of business with Empire as well. 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:53.400 There's companies like Distro, Kid Tone Core and One r 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:58.400 PAN and so many independent distributors these days. What is 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.440 the what do you bring to the that is unique? 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.160 I think that being my years of being in the 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.800 record business, you know, Black and Brown entertainment. There's Latin 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.160 Records knowing how to be a record label, on the 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.320 necessity of communication, dealing with the artists. People do want 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.560 to give you their life, of their heart, and then 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:16.800 all of a sudden you got to talk to an 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.360 email and you can't speak to nobody, you know, with us, 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:20.800 I have a staff. We're going to talk to you. 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.200 I talk to you. I listen to the music. I'm 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.720 in tune with everybody. And there's a lot of artists 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.160 out there. You know what I'm saying. But I'm able 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.800 to decipher who really wants it and who is necessary 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.800 of that time to talk to them. Of course everybody is, 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.760 and we do. I believe there's enough time in our 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.000 day to talk to everybody. That's the whole thing. I 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:40.240 don't you know, we want to talk to you. I 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:41.760 leave give you five minutes to chop it. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:42.080 Up with you. 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:44.720 See what's going on? How you doing with your marketing? 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:46.640 What do you need help in? Let me listen to 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.400 your best song? First thing I do. What's your best song? 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.760 What's your best Let me see it? You know what 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:53.520 I mean? That ain't nothing. This is what I'm doing. 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:55.079 I'm in the music business. I want to listen to 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.120 the music. You know, there's some people that there's other 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.160 companies that don't do none of that. 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.240 That is true. Not to send an email, You got. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:02.640 It, that's it. 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.160 Just your kid ain't listening to your ship too, for sure. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.280 You think the motherfucker's day is not listening to your ship. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:09.040 They don't give you. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.880 You just loaded it up, put it in, and you 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:12.960 gonna get They're gonna get their money, they gonna pay it. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:18.200 Is it hard though, like trying to be accessible to everybody, you. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.240 Know what, Actually it ain't. 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.800 Nah, Yeah, they ain't because most people, most I'm gonna 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.280 say most artists are only doing an album or too. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.360 So they're putting a date some of them. 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.320 Some mother uckers they forget about they even put something 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.960 up right, you know what I'm saying. Then you got 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.880 something that are seriously into it, and then you can 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.600 talk to him. They're gonna put something out. I mean, 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:39.120 it's it's you know, like I said, ten minute conversation 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:40.360 is gonna go a long way. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.480 I think that's what he does different, you know, because 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:45.800 like he was talking about the communication, I think when 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:51.000 there's communication with comprehension, it changes the dynamic of just communicating. 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.199 When you communicate with comprehension, you understand what you're talking about. 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.319 And I think he's really good at that. He's really 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.000 good at letting him know, like, look, this is A, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.559 B and C. This is the way it's supposed to happened. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:01.520 You do your part. 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:02.360 I do my part. 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:06.400 Everybody wins instead of like, oh my ship's out all 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.760 over the you know, in every platform. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.800 So what Yeah, the destro game is interesting because I 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.960 just see, I feel like every major label has their 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.199 own version of I guess. With Empires, I feel like 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.600 kind of revolutionized in terms of like, you know, they 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.000 kind of kicked the door down and now everybody, everybody's 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:25.160 got their own Empire under their umbrella, you know, like 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.640 three hundred Sparta and you know, go on and on 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.680 and on. So I just always am wondering, like, you know, 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:32.400 I just I'm intrigued. 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.920 By me and Me and Gazi both started off with 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.760 Ingrous I was I started. I started, I started INgrooves 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.719 is Rap Division was their first rap I was their 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.560 first rap label. Actually hooked up Gazi with them for 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.520 the job. For him to get in there, It's crazy, 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.120 you know what I'm saying. Gazi was, you know, my 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.120 engineer for Black and Browning Entertainment at that time, you 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:51.680 know what I'm saying. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:55.319 So me, we we's still engineering too a whole album. 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:58.840 You know, because there's there's a YouTube video Gazi saying 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:00.360 I want to be like Julio and our grow up. 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.360 I'm like, now, god, he blew up. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.280 That means all this to say is at any point 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.120 you could get you can blow. It could take one day, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.200 any point, man, in this game, it could happen. You know, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.760 dreams can happen overnight overall with the you know, stuff 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.360 goes viral all of a sudden boom you're on. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.200 I was gonna ask both of you guys, because you 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.560 guys eas have had so much independent success in the 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.400 rap game. I feel like I always correlate the Bay 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.360 Area with like just the real roots of this independent 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.040 rap shit, like getting it out the Trump. You know 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:31.920 what I'm saying. Yeah, how do you guys like being 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.160 on both sides of the game right Like in twenty 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.200 twenty three, the music game is so different. There's got 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.840 to be like other ways to monetize your music besides 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:42.080 the streaming, because the streaming is you know it is 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:42.400 what it is. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.560 I mean, cross marketing of course with other artists, you 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:48.400 know what I'm saying, paying for you know, getting ads, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.560 YouTube ads, TikTok ads, doing sure marketing, spend money, gotta 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.880 spend money, man, you know, and it may not come back. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:56.840 You know, at least you gave yours. At least you 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.360 gave it a shot to shine though. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.520 And you gotta be okay with that. 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:00.640 Yeah, you gotta be okay. 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.960 You gotta be That's acceptance to that is a huge 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.480 part of being an artist, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.960 I've always been a firm believer of that. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:14.400 Like sometimes Deepak Chop process, expectancy determines outcomes. When you're 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.600 not attached to the outcome, the outcome is guaranteed. Sometimes 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.560 that desire and that one creates an actual barrier between 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.280 you and your success. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.800 I think you know, of course, doing the visual it's 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:29.720 the truth. I think your visuals too. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.040 You got to get in you know, you got to 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:31.960 get creative. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.040 With your videos and your visuals. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.240 Yeah, sometimes the song you think is the one may not. 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.880 Be the one. You gotta be okay with that, and 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.040 you gotta be okay. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.120 Gamble, bro, this is all a gamble. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.720 That's why I say, like, I have fun with this 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.520 ship man, like when he wrote the song having fun 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:46.560 with I'm gonna go do a video. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.000 Both have it? 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.800 You having fun. That's what I do with my music. 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.520 That's how I enjoy it. If I spend, I go 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.320 spend ten twenty thousand, but if I don't make it back, 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.840 at least I have fun doing it. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.880 When he told me about the music, I was like, ah, bro, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.240 that's like fifth on the list for me. You know 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.200 what I'm saying it is, you know, I'm bringing the 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.280 culture together doing these festivals all over the country, you know, 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.200 closing that paradoxic Divided slash Divided gap. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:12.880 Yeah. I mean you've been doing your thing as a 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.280 promoter for a long time, long time, yeah, which is 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.000 in the whole other side of the game is. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.920 Yeah, you know, but again, resource and strategy. You know, 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.560 there's been some shows that didn't go so well, so what. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.560 There's been some shows that were phenomenal. There's some records 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.400 that didn't do so well. So what some records that 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.200 did phenomenal. I've been on Power one on six, I've 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.200 been in Boise, Like, you know, it doesn't matter. You know, 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.120 every single aspect of what you do to contribute to 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.720 what you're doing matters, you know what I'm saying. So 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.320 I think a lot of artists have this idea this 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.040 fallacy of what they're their. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.480 Dreaming, and they ain't nothing wrong with that. 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.280 But ultimately, you can't let money consume you. You got 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.560 to have passion for what you do. You got to 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.200 have passion for your art. You still got One of 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.200 the things that people say about Florida Mayweather is that 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.360 he was still training like he was broke for sure. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.199 You know what I'm saying, Like, the passion has to 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.800 be your purpose, your art. I always look at music 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.719 like art. That's why it comes so naturally. I've been 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:14.240 doing it for a long time. But I was never 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.480 like an ABC person just to do songs to do songs, 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.679 especially as I got older, and especially as life itself 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.119 became more meaningful to me. Relationships become more meaningful. You 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.560 magnetize and allie with other people that are living a 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.400 meaningful life, and then whatever you do becomes meaningful. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.560 So therefore it happens organically. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:36.720 Yo, go Tos. I wanted to ask you, and obviously 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:38.560 you had a lot to do with this too, just 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.040 with the name of your label. But why do you 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.919 think that Northern California, it feels like Black artists and 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.400 Latin artists are more privy and naturally working together because 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:50.720 I feel like when it comes to southern California, it 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.040 it feels like the rap Games a little more divided. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.160 It's just the way we grew up in the Bay, 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.879 in northern Cally, It's just you know, we grew up 0:17:57.920 --> 0:17:59.520 black and brown. I mean even in La they grew 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:01.159 up black and around two. But I think, you know, 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.960 just from you know what I know is changing. 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:06.800 But I just mean, like historically, it just feels like 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:08.240 a little more like different. 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.800 I think it's just in the Bay it's always been 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.280 like that. You know, the Blacks and the Mexicans. We 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.960 grew up together, so it's just always had that. We've 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.639 had that that How can I say the lingo? You 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.399 know what I'm saying. San Francisco, you know it's a 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.360 little different, that's all. It's just what it is. It's 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.879 just different, you know geographically that we raised different, we 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:30.800 interact differently, and you know that's it. Really at the 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:31.560 end of the day. 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.400 How are you feeling about San Francisco? 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:36.480 Man? In fact, every time, man, everybody moving out, It's like, 0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:37.359 what the funk happened? 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:37.840 In my city? 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.240 Everybody goes got moms everywhere, I. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:42.680 Mean, the city is still the city, but. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:46.040 The Chinese president came through and they cleaned that shit up. Frisco. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:49.800 Frisco, Man, now Frisco. You know, city is still a city. 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.199 But you know a lot of everybody's been moving out, uh, 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.760 you know, hitting the suburbs and moving to different states. 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:56.000 But at the end of the day, man, you know, 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:56.800 I love my city. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.359 Every time I go there, I'm just paranoid. I'm just like, everyone, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.879 take everything out of your car. Not get bit. 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.480 We're doing the Splash City, you know me and yeah, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.200 we're doing the splashy with Four Ways Entertainment. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.800 So I met them. I was at his compound a 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.320 couple of months ago and I met the guys who 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.919 I think help wrote it. They came through. Yeah, I 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.639 think the trailer just dropped. Yeah, we just dropped the trailer. Yeah, 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:17.959 what's that coming. It's going to be coming out hopefully. 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.760 We're going to start filming in January, so sometime by 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.720 the end of the year. It's big twenty twenty four. Yeah, 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.199 Because I think Burne was saying that, it's like, you know, 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.240 if you think about all like these Netflix series and 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:28.760 like gangster movies, there's never been like anything that's really 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.960 there's been Boston gangster movies, New York gangster movies. There 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.200 ain't never been no like real spotlight on the Bay 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.800 and like what goes on in the Bay, and there's 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.360 so much culture there, there's so much like. 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.520 Man, it's just about that time and start time with Sean. 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.320 That's why we're here building bridges everywhere. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:49.360 Even the Mexicans in Texas different than the Mexicans in California. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.359 Trust me, I just went hog hunting with that Mexican. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.639 Oh yeah, I saw that, yeah, and that was fun. 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.880 But you see building a bridge, like you said, from 0:19:55.920 --> 0:20:01.760 the Bay to here here to Texas and even California 0:20:01.960 --> 0:20:03.200 and Texas to Mexico. 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:04.920 The Mexico. 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.080 The movement with music is crazier, going nuts, for sure, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:08.760 it's crazy. 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:10.720 So that's what me and Gold is doing. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.679 We here building bridges, just putting our resources together and 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:15.879 communicating and see what we can make happen, you know, 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:17.960 And it's good for the culture. It's good for all 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:19.040 of us for sure. 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:20.520 What do you guys think of a guy like Mexicano 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.360 T who is funk? You just got a gold record. 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.679 He's make it, He's all right. 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.840 I think he's yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:33.639 But I see how fast he popped up boom, you 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:34.200 know what I'm saying. 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.440 But he said it exactly like how go Tos was 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.919 talking about about the ward and He's. 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.160 Like, it's just culture where he was raised. 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:43.000 He was like, this is where we grew up. Man, 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:43.520 it's just cod. 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:45.119 I went to a city where he grew up. I 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:45.560 saw it. 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.760 You know, Texas different Texas and Texas. You know, they 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:50.840 got a lot of slang out there, they do. They 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:53.960 got a lot of slang and Mexicans out there sound 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.080 black black. I thought we sound black, and I'm like, damn. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.480 Yeah, yeah, though Texas is wild. Yeah, everybody got a strap. 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:05.800 We were cracking out there, man. 0:21:05.840 --> 0:21:07.160 We were like we. 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:12.760 Were in the middle of nowhere, just stalking hogs on 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.800 a helicopter. No, no, we did, and then we did 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.480 it on foot. It like two in the morning with 0:21:16.640 --> 0:21:18.440 night vision and ship. It was fucking great. 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:19.400 Yeah, but that was dope. 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.720 I'm sure that's a different experience, but that's how he 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.159 grew up. 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:22.920 Yeah, for sure. 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:24.359 You know that's what makes it dope. 0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:26.760 We do you guys put a guy like Magic in 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:28.960 the pantheon of like Latin hip hop because he obviously 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:30.720 he makes love music, but he's also empty magic. 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.000 Yeah. But in my opinion, I mean, you know, I 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.439 love I love the freedom of his art. 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:36.399 Yeah, he stayed true to his roots. 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:42.200 He you know, he he he gets music and provides 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:45.959 his art to the music and everybody hears an empty 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:47.639 magic beat and knows it. 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.520 And he's doing more shows now, yeah, everyone in his career. 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:56.600 Yeah that's what's so crazy. And yeah, him Bash and 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:57.440 little Robert. 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.200 Running it, yeah, running it. 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.040 They're doing more shows than they've ever done. And it's 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.320 crazy because like like they'll set out the novel like 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:06.640 twice a year, you know what I'm saying. Like, it's 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.520 just it's just wild, because always feel like magic like 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:10.040 for us and easy. He's like kind of like the 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:11.920 fucking biggest thing has ever come out of Phoenix, you 0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:12.280 know what I mean. 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.760 So, but I mean he's always treated that music like 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:15.520 guard for. 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:18.359 Sure, and he's always been a professional, always. 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:20.040 Lockdowns. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:21.760 Yeah, yeah, you know, I just saw him in San 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.760 Diego maybe a few months ago when he was out 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.040 there shooting the video and we chopped it up for 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:28.800 a little bit. But he's also a really good dude. 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.960 For the best, he's got you know, he's kind of 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:33.720 taking a page from your book and he's doing his 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:34.160 own shows. 0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:35.600 Yeah, he's doing his own shows too. 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.359 You know, it's crazy because if you go to a 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:42.439 magic show, he's on, like if Rob's opening or someone's 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:45.280 opening for him, like or anyone that goes on before him, 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:46.960 Like he's on the side of the stage running the show. 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:47.680 Yeah. 0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:49.360 Like I was standing there with him. I was like, oh, 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.640 you're fucking yeah, like handling, like he's playing the graphics 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.680 on the screen and ship, Like, don't you have some 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:57.480 who could do this so that. 0:22:57.520 --> 0:22:59.399 You know, when I was doing the Latin Lockdown, I 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.080 was getting him on the show. Then I've seen him 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:05.439 doing this thing too. But you know, even even just 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.200 being motivated to do the festival because of things like that. 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.000 You know, there's a lot of people that use the 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:14.120 word tackle, the word Michelada, the word just add festival 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:14.920 to it for sure. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:16.760 And you know I went to my Alreadys did one 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:18.440 in present. I think it was like called Taco throw Down. 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:19.239 Yeah, there you go. 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.200 You know, there's there's millions of dollars being generated off 0:23:22.240 --> 0:23:25.320 the culture, you know what I'm saying, Sure, so why. 0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.440 Not let why I mean shot out to Bobby d two. 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.920 Yeah, Bobby, shout out to Bobby on the big concert, Bobby, 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.080 He's got based, He's fucking But you know, like that's 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:34.920 the objective here. 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:36.560 The objective is is beyond that. 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.800 I mean, you know, there's always this microscopic fucking lens 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.240 in the inner city, like nobody gives it the telescopic 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:45.719 lens about the beautiful ship that happens in the culture, 0:23:46.160 --> 0:23:48.399 you know what I'm saying. So bringing acts like and 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:50.760 like Malo and del Phonics because the oldies are part 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:51.000 of the. 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.320 Culture for sure. Have you obviously your hip to like 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.680 what Desi Hollow is doing an ocean size Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.159 you doing a great job with the whole school. 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.359 Yeah yeah, for sure. He's dope as fuck too. And 0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.480 I got abed by the yea. Yeah, you know he's 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:03.920 dope as fuck too. But again, you know, being able 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.520 to bring the motown side of it, the latinos side 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:10.879 of it, hip hop side of it with little Weirdo 0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.440 Kryota and still got Conako and Shadow you know, and 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:15.720 uh and just being a being. 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.640 Whirdos to id to get him on the show. Weirdos dope. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.720 Yeah, we're those dope, you know, and connect connecting with 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.520 go to's, you know, man and being able to do 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.440 we want to take this to the Bay. We want 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:25.440 to take this to Texas. 0:24:25.600 --> 0:24:27.240 Got it doesn't ask you what do you think is 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:32.040 like a key to kind of helping some of these uh, 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.359 like like smaller cities in the middle of Cali because 0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.880 I think of a guy like GB who have had 0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:39.640 on the show shot to him ghetto boy. But there's 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.760 like cities like Fresno. There's cities like Bakersfield. Their city 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:45.040 is like Stockton, Stockton's booming. 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:46.960 They they got to cross market themselves. 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.000 I mean you can even I mean even. 0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:50.880 I mean there's a lot of rappers and you could 0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.520 be cracking locally, but I'm gonna be honest. You got 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.080 to get out even, got to get out the state 0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:57.080 to start moving around. I mean, most of these guys 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.200 they put out an album name even making ten thousand 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.280 dollars in a year, they're most of them probably making 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:03.280 about three rats at the most. I mean it's like, 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:04.320 for real, you feel. 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:05.960 Me well, I mean yeah, especially if you start doing 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:06.760 the math on the stream. 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:07.800 Yeah, I started staying there. 0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.000 You know that you think they popping, but they really 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:13.880 when you start really seeing the numbers. 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.040 Right about four grand last year. You know, if you 0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:19.199 got a million streams. 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.480 Going, man, you got to keep pushing, you feel me? 0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:23.720 So uh, you know you got music? Like I tell everybody, 0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:25.399 do it, you love it, and keep doing it and 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.120 keep being consistent with it. And look, look we're fifty 0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:29.720 years old. I was doing this shit when I was 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:30.240 twenty three. 0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:34.000 Right, that's crazy, you know that, Sear, that's the timeless 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.600 aspect of it, you know again, but it goes back. 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.119 You know, you either inspired, like if you go you 0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:43.480 go to a football player's baseball players mom's house, you'll 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:44.960 see him doing that sport when he. 0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:45.720 Was ten, for sure. 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.240 So it's got to be it's got to be passion. 0:25:48.480 --> 0:25:50.320 Yeah, it has to be the first thing. 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.480 It can be like chains, the broads and the car 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:54.080 I mean. 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.359 I always tell people like, uh, if you are willing 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.600 to spend money on a belt or a fun wallet 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.960 or a fucking half ass chain, but your videos look 0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:06.560 like ship yeah, and the artwork on your album is 0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.200 a joke and you and you ain't doing social media 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:12.600 content the right way. Like fuck your belt, bro, fuck 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:14.200 the Louis belt with the Gucci shooting. 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.840 I would say that, you know, it's more like that 0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.680 the mute that the videos looked the way the music sounds. 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:22.320 Yeah, you gotta brand yourself, you know, you gotta. 0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:24.560 Make everything a little ice cream. You want to cover 0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:26.320 to be right. You want your videos to be right. 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:28.120 Like right now, everything I'm doing, I'm trying to take 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.120 my time, like even though I don't do songs all 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.440 the time, but when I do it now, I want 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.280 to make sure everything is tight, everything's looking right, the 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:36.920 rollouts nice, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:38.320 --> 0:26:42.040 Somebody who was I arguing with somebody from San Francisco 0:26:42.240 --> 0:26:48.560 in my comments lied, they said that what they say. 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:52.160 Somebody said the Bay has the best Mexican food, which 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.320 is just a bullfaced lie obviously, because. 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.720 San Diego got good. 0:26:58.200 --> 0:26:59.800 I am not san Diego. 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.200 San Diego, San Diego has the best Mexican best. 0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:07.239 I'm gonna take no, no, no, no, I let's say no 0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:08.520 no no no no no. 0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.800 No no no no no. San Diego is good. San Jose, 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.040 San hol got some good ship though. 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.000 San Diego ne SEMy I'm gonna say. 0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:17.840 I'm gonna say, neck and. 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.720 Neck sane man, San Diego. 0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:22.639 I might have to ride with San Jo Man twenty 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:24.159 twenty the market. 0:27:24.640 --> 0:27:27.520 Listen, san Diego got the craziest Mexican food I ever had, 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.080 And well, Tijuana is my ship. Though there's a place 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:33.600 in TJ called Lionfish that's all so good, but that's 0:27:33.600 --> 0:27:35.920 like my school is like more of the Spanish ship, 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.240 but more than the seafood chip. But now, because you're. 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:42.040 Crazy, you're a liar, man, San Jogo. 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:46.040 I say Phoenix has the best, and it doesn't San 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:46.720 Diego does. 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.120 San Diego's got the best. 0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.400 I'm gonna tell you one thing, twenty one thing. 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:51.879 I get it. 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.640 I get upset about being in Texas if they don't 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:59.040 fucking have burritos. Bro, Bro, Texas, I mean you'll find 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.280 it in California. 0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.760 Bro, who would we argue with from Texas? Was it ot? 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.400 I'm like you can't, obviously, but you can't really think 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.280 like Texas Mexican food is better than anything in California. 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.080 I remember, I remember one time I was in Houston 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:12.960 and I hit Bash and I'm like, yo, dog, was, 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.840 where do they have roll tacos out here? He sent 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.000 me to this spot and they're like dip like in 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.240 Sauce Video. Na, No no, no, no, it was not be. 0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:22.880 It was it was just all bad. 0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.040 Noah, yeah, yeah, listen. Texta was his own thing. But 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.120 it ain't fucking with Cali. It ain't fucking with Azy either. 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.720 Tucson Phoenix shipping on Texas. So no San Jose. 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.199 In San Diego and you been the mark. 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.720 I say this. The best papoosas I ever had were 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.080 off mission. In the mission. 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.440 Yeah, I had one of the little spot thirtieth Street. 0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.640 Oh my god, were you there, Cyrus when we have 0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:51.240 papoosas in the bay. Oh man, they were so good. 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:55.080 Shots of the savvy's. Man. I love papoosas. But yeah, look, 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:57.520 so we got two albums coming out. 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:01.440 Two albums in Chicano and Michicano Gold. 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.080 We're working on something together joint and they joined album 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.080 and then we got the song that he he wrote 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:09.720 for you, he wrote for me right now, wake Up, 0:29:09.920 --> 0:29:12.920 wake Up, Wake Up in the future of Mary Will if. 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.800 You just help put together the record with Berner, and. 0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:17.520 So we did. Berner, I just did. 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:21.800 I remixed Berner, Jay Diggs and Too Short. I threw 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.640 Jenny six y nine on there right, Jenny did her verse. 0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:26.240 Then I brought her up to the bay. We just 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:30.200 knocked out the video her short burn digs lit up 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.400 the bay and that should be chopping at the top 0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:32.800 of the year. 0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:33.239 Yo. 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.240 What I always for people who I always say, people 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:41.440 don't quite understand if you're not like so mac dre right. 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:43.480 I've talked with people in the Bay. They always say that, 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:46.959 like he really wasn't fully appreciated until he passed. 0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.840 True, he was very much like that's because the radio 0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.239 really got on him. But everything just really just intensive by. 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.320 But that really happens whatever. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.080 I mean, even Nipsey do a standard, right, like Nipse 0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:58.240 fully appreciated. 0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.600 Yeah, the Jack Lie And it's just this is what happens, 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.840 you know what I'm saying. People start really listening to 0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.200 and appreciating with you with the music you left behind. 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:07.400 It's just crazy because you think about like the Hyphie 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:12.000 era and how he really wasn't there to I guess 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:13.920 really enjoy enjoy the peak of it. 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.360 But he was the one that started it. He was light, 0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:17.280 he was the fire. 0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.200 He was going to start it up. But it's crazy 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.080 because I just like, like at that. 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.600 I guess I guess you don't appreciate you like you 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:26.040 don't appreciate things when they're right there in front of 0:30:26.040 --> 0:30:26.840 you until they're gone. 0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:29.320 Then you're like, man, but we're here giving it up 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:30.120 to him though, So for. 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:31.800 Sure, Yeah, r P mac dre Man. 0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:35.840 All right, well look go stream your song is out. 0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:36.640 Wake up. 0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:38.800 People want to sign up for some distro. They could 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:39.160 go to what. 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.240 You can go to my GT Digital distribution on i G. 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:44.680 There's a click the link in the bi or you 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.600 can you know, you can follow me at go tos 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.880 link link in the bar on IG. Just fill it out. 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.840 My staff is gonna get right to you. We're gonna 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.320 sign you up, check you out, you know, listen to 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.960 your music and then we'll get you going real easy, 0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:56.400 you know what I mean. 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.120 Then the show people people can buy tickets. 0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:01.040 Yet you go out on music fest dot com the 0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:02.640 Chicano Music Festival next year. 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:04.240 It's gonna be historical. 0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.840 Good to Mario san Diego, stay tuned for all of it. 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:07.680 I want to say. 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:10.000 I want to say, it's been a pleasure though seeing you, 0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.200 uh you know, develop yourself, appreciate it in the entertainment business, 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.400 and uh, you know, it's an honor right now to 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.680 be at this time in the rap game. Especially for 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.480 Latin rap. Uh you know right, it's the best it's 0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:23.920 ever been. 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.680 Yeah, I mean it's we are. 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.080 We are at a point to where us as Latinos 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.880 in the entertainment business, we have an opportunity to really 0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.320 be great and to come together to even be greater, 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.240 to help each other because I believe we've been held 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:42.360 back a lot and now's the time to shine and 0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.920 to put our powers together to be the best that 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:45.120 we can. 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:49.240 There's been there really dope media platforms like food Community developing. 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.719 And don't let no motherfucker stop you man, stop being scary, 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:52.880 get there and get it done. 0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:54.000 That's the fuck we're doing. 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.360 That's it, man, I'm standing on this ship. 0:31:57.560 --> 0:31:59.440 There it go, solute boom.