1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental health podcast 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glacier. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Welcome into Unbreakable. I'm mental health podcast with Jay Laser. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: I'm Jay Glazer. And if you're like many people, you 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: may be surprised to learn that one in five adults 7 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: in this country experienced mental illness last year. You had 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: far too many failed to receive the support they need. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Charilm Behavioral Health is doing something about it. They understand 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: that behavioral health is a key part of whole health, 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: delivering compassionate care that treats physical, mental, emotional, and social 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: needs in tandem. Charil and behavior health raising the quality 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: of life through empathy and action. Listen. Each week I 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: try to bring people on my brothers and sisters from 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: all over along the sports world, the entertainment world, veteran world, 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: the mental health world, wherever we can help. And you know, 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: our sisters include the Lindsay Vaughn's, the Curiis And you 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: know right now, I've never had somebody on from the 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: w NBA, so I like it. You're kicking down the 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 2: door here with me. Monique Billings, who plays for the. 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: Elevet screen of the WNBA. 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: How you doing. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: I'm so blessed happy to be here in season right now. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 5: You know, we were just talking about you coming to 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 5: a game, so we've got to make that happen. 26 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: We got to make that happen. You see you do 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: see them so zen for in season? 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: Were you always this calm in season? 29 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 4: I would say so. I'm naturally very calm. That's like 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 4: my personality. My alter ego kicks in on the court. 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: She's not so calm. 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: You find that other person, what do you do? You 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: have a name for that other person? 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: Ooh, it's funny because a long time ago I made 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 4: this name up with my therapist. 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: It's present, so I'm present. 38 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: Okay, good, Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Listen, I'm in 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: the mental health game now right trying to help people 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: out between their ears. For years and years, I still 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: a training people in mixed martial arts and a lot 42 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: of pro athletes, and I'm kind of like doing the 43 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: office of what you're supposed to do. I'm telling everybody 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: in that cage, on that field, on your course, wherever 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: it is, you're hurt, you're tired, you don't show it. 46 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: No hands on our hips. We don't show we're just 47 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: going to make. 48 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: It a horrible afternoon that person across from us. 49 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 2: But then for the other twenty one hours of the day, 50 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: I want us to really show our pain and really 51 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: show the vulnerability. 52 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: And then you just came out with a new book 53 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: kind of do exactly that explain. 54 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 4: So my book Finding Balance, a playbook for wellness, is 55 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: just how this lessoned keys that I've learned through being 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: a professional athlete, through my journey, I just like you, 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: want to help people with the mental side of things, 58 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: So helping people understand who they are outside of what 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 4: they do and really identifying just their space and not 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: just being solely an athlete, but understanding like we are 61 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: humans first, we have feelings, emotions and all of that. 62 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: So in order to be your best in whatever you do, 63 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 5: I think it's. 64 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: Important to know who you are, why are you feeling 65 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: the way that you're feeling, and being able to identify 66 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: that by just coming home within yourself. 67 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: What prompted you to do it? Because look, anybody's a 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: pro athlete, You're fucking different. We can curse on this podcast. 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: That's different is good. Differently to success. You're different than 70 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 2: the rest of the world to everybody you play with 71 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: is different. Why you to take this step? 72 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 5: Honestly, today, I think it's purpose. 73 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 4: I'm a woman of faith, and so I know that 74 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 4: God has big plans for me, plans outside of basketball, 75 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 4: and so I really feel like walking along this path, 76 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: writing this book was just. 77 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 5: A part of my purpose. 78 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 4: I told my manager like, hey, I'm very passionate about wellness. 79 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 4: I want people to feel good Like I wake up 80 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: in the morning and I feel good. I'm ready to 81 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: experience life, to explore. I feel incredible, and I want 82 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: other people, my peers, basketball, people that play sports, whatever, 83 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 4: to feel the same way. And he was like, you 84 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: need to write a book. That's what people do when 85 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: they have an expertise in something. And so not that 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: I'm an expert or anything, but I do think that 87 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: I have put in the work and the time of 88 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: understanding the mind and just being an athlete. I think 89 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: that helps too, because it's relatable for people who are 90 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 4: currently going through it and just even outside of even 91 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: people who have what's it called retired. I think it's 92 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 4: important to know like who you are, Like I said, 93 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 4: who you are outside of what you do. Because the 94 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: ball goes flat at some point in life and it's like, Okay, 95 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: what's next, what are you going to do? Who's your character? 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: So that's why I would say, that's why. I mean, 97 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 4: it's just it's my purpose. 98 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: I would say, it's not like it's not you who 99 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: plays in the w NBA. It's what's behind your ribcage 100 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: that got you beat out millions of other girls that 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: you are right, that doesn't just leave when the uniform 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 2: comes off. Something. How to prompted this for you to say, Okay, 103 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to come forward about this? 104 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 5: That's a really good question. 105 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: I would say, I'm very diligent with the work that 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: I put in daily to feed my soul, my spirit, 107 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: to just do the mental work. It's so much more 108 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 4: than just dribbling a basketball, getting on court, watching film 109 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 4: and my opponents. I have to do all that stuff too, 110 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: but I have to ground myself every single day. 111 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 5: And like I said, I'm a woman of faith. 112 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: So for me, that starts with my faith, but it's 113 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 4: also journaling, it's also meditating. It's just taking that time 114 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: to be still, which is chapter in one of my book. 115 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 4: And I think that's been so important for me and 116 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: something that I've learned that has helped me so much. 117 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 5: And when I talk with other athletes and other people, they're. 118 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: Not necessarily doing that and taking that time and that 119 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 4: self care, those practices and rituals, and so I think 120 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: that that's where it has really stemmed from for me. 121 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: And like I said, just that quiet time, putting my 122 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: phone away, taking that time for myself, coming home with 123 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 4: them myself, and listening to my spirit's, what's on my heart, 124 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 4: what's going on around me, and just being self aware. 125 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: I guess what I'm asking is like, so for me, 126 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: I route on breadable and I realized saying that you're like, yeah, 127 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: we can kind of touch people in a different way. 128 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: But then I had also kind of fallen off the 129 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 2: reservation a little bit, and I said I got to 130 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: go this and help for myself and change because I 131 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: was just fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, NonStop. And I 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: and I saw that in myself and said, I can't 133 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: just teach people how to fight. I got to somehow 134 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: teach people how to heal, and heal between my ears. Yeah, 135 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 2: So I guess for you, what I'm asking is, was 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: there a time, was there a momment that you said, oh, 137 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: I got to do something different than what I've been doing. 138 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 5: I think, well I was going to. 139 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: I think I get what you're saying. So for me, 140 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 4: this book is for my younger self. These are the 141 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: keys and the things that I wish that someone had 142 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 4: told little Monique back in the day. I didn't know 143 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 4: who I was outside of what I did. And I 144 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 4: was raised by two very strong parents who raised me 145 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: in just such a beautiful way and really gave me 146 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: a great foundation. But even further than that, they weren't 147 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: professional athletes. They've never walked this path and journey. So 148 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 4: me being here now, I'm like, Okay, these are things 149 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: that keys and concepts that I wish I knew at fourteen. 150 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: I wish I knew even younger than that. And so 151 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: that's where finding Balance comes from. Is that answering your question? 152 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: That's kind of like it. Yeah, So so give me 153 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: you try to jump in a chapter one there and 154 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: I cut you off. What the ADHD and me does? Yeah, 155 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: tell me your if you're going to talk to one 156 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: of your teammates, one of your opponents and say this 157 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: is what it is. This is the magic of finding balance. 158 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: Well, let's start with chapter one. 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: Finding balance is taking that time for self every single day, 160 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: and it's going to look different every single day. I 161 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 4: don't wake up every morning and get to do everything 162 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: on my morning routine list. Sometimes I have to do 163 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 4: a couple things. I might be late to practice, and 164 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I can only do a couple of 165 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: things right now. Maybe I can do some more later. 166 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: But it's just taking that time to be still. I 167 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 4: think that's so important and something that we don't do. 168 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 4: It's taking breaks from your phone and being outside, being 169 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: in nature. 170 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: There was a point that you realize, Okay, I have 171 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: to start being still. Is there something like like when 172 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: did you learn this? 173 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: That's a good question. 174 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 4: I would say when I became a pro so my 175 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: rookie year, I was searching for knowledge, searching how to 176 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: feed my mind. 177 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: So I'm like listening to podcasts. 178 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 4: And different sound bites on YouTube and I'm like, Okay, 179 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: these are things that I've never been taught as an athlete. 180 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 4: I've been taught how to shoot a basketball, but I've 181 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: never been taught. 182 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 5: How to train my mind. 183 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: And that's what that's that was fueling me. I'm like, 184 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: this is soul food. Okay, cool? Where can I get 185 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: more of this, and so the more that I kept 186 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: doing it, then I started mastering my morning routine. And 187 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: I have a long way to go, Like I know 188 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 4: it's going to only continue to evolve, and so that's 189 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: the exciting part. 190 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 5: But it's been a process and it will continue to 191 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: be a process. 192 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll work in progress. 193 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Yes, Exactly. 194 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: How long is your morning routine take? 195 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 5: Ideally perfect day, I need like an hour and a 196 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 5: half from my morning routine. 197 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: And you noticed a huge difference when you don't do it, 198 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 3: So I. 199 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I don't do at least one thing within 200 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: my morning routine, even if it's just not making up 201 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: my bed or my skincare routine or just like getting 202 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 4: my hair nice for the morning, like whatever, whatever, it 203 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: might be, just one little stuff. 204 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 5: Thing I noticed, I just get up and go. Like 205 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 5: for the rest of the day. 206 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: I do feel like I'm just kind of stimulated and 207 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 4: not calm and balanced. 208 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: So give us what your morning routine has if you can, 209 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: okay in right elevator pitch. 210 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 4: Yes, money routine, wake up, make up my bed, skincare, 211 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: self care, make sure I'm looking good, meditate, read my 212 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: Bible journal, make a really good breakfast, and then I'm 213 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: out the door. 214 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: How long you. 215 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 5: Meditate for ten minutes? 216 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: Is it guided or is it transcendental? 217 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Or is it what kind of meditation is it? 218 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: It depends. 219 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: Sometimes I'll do guide it. Sometimes I just like to 220 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: sit in silence. Sometimes I'll listen to like soundbath or 221 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: like a meditation meditation type of music. 222 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: It just depends. 223 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 2: You kind of lead your teammates and things. 224 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: Now I have I've done guided meditations and I'm a yogi, 225 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: so yoga with them and different things like that. 226 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: So, yeah, what are you hoping to get from your book? 227 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: I want people to to read my book and have 228 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: a sense of I got this, a better sense of 229 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: understanding of who they are, like I said, outside of 230 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: what they do, and just understanding themselves more. That's what 231 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: I really hope my book will convey to people. 232 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: So my morning meditation or my morning routine, it goes 233 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes. I've said this on this podcast because 234 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 2: nothing good happens on this cell phone, right, Like, none 235 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: of us are actually have won two billion dollars as 236 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: the Nigerian prints. It doesn't really happen in real life. 237 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: We're not going to wake up to that, right, So 238 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 2: it's not a problems. And I used to just immediately 239 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: wake up to that the problems it's brutal. So now 240 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: I get up. I will do when I do it 241 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: with my beautiful fiance Rosie Tennyson, if I have a 242 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: partner to do with with, we'll do three songs of 243 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: breathwork of different breath work, and I'll basically put on 244 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 2: songs so it goes about ten minutes, and then we 245 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 2: will do a meditation of what we're grateful for, and 246 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 2: we'll write down a brat list of ten things or 247 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: grateful for from the day before. And it was so 248 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 2: hard when I originally learned the gratitude list, Like it 249 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: was so hard. 250 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: To a guy like me to was so self low 251 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: there to be grateful for anything. 252 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: Right, So now we learn how to do it. And 253 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: then this week actually introduced saying out loud like hold 254 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 2: the games and saying thank you God, I'm grateful for this. Yes, 255 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: And we do that together and then we say a 256 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: quicker and then we look at our phones. 257 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 4: I like that, and I like that you said you 258 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 4: wait to be on your phone. I think that's very 259 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: important that I often apply as well. 260 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: And I do want to add this. So for the gratitude. 261 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: Something that I heard this week, actually, I think it 262 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: was on a Joyce Meyer podcast. She had said, imagine 263 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 4: not saying thank you for the things that you are 264 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: actually grateful for and then being gone tomorrow. That hit 265 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: me hard, Like, imagine not being grateful for I don't 266 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 4: know my legs, my arms, the fact that I'm able 267 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 4: to breathe and I'm healthy, the little things that we 268 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: take for granted, and they're gone tomorrow. So when when 269 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: I heard that, I was like, wow, I can do 270 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: better being grateful. 271 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 2: I learned how to do this gratitude list in Thailand 272 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 2: from this Timelnk and it was wild. I went on 273 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: like a thirty five day mind body spirit journey. I 274 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 2: fought my muay Thai in the jungle, and I did 275 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: breath work and meditation and I did you know eight 276 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: so clean, didn't drink. But when they first told me 277 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 2: to do this, hey, we want you to write down 278 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: one hundred things your grip for. It took me a 279 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: week and my life is great. It's incredible, right, it 280 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: was so. But then you think you talk about things 281 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 2: like you just brought up your legs, your eyesight, your 282 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: arms and things we don't know really how to be 283 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 2: grateful for that. We do take for granted. 284 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 4: Well, it sounds like you've done a lot of work 285 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 4: now to where you could probably write two lists to 286 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: one hundred list. 287 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm about four hundred in now, you kidd. 288 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 5: Make I love it. I love it. 289 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. But I like that you say that because it 290 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: was like it was hard for me. And they're like, yeah, 291 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 2: you could put things out, are materialistic, You're good. It's like, 292 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: whatever makes you feel grateful, Yes, that's for you, right 293 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: down on your list. Yeah, And it's a much better 294 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: way to wake up grateful than to look on her 295 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: phone and wake up with problems. 296 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 5: I totally agree. 297 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: Give me some of the other big lessons you're trying 298 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: to teach us with your book. 299 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to spoil too much. I want people 300 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: to read the book. It's a very quick read. 301 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: But some of the things you got to spoil us, 302 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: trust me, you'll still read it. 303 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 5: I got you, I got you. 304 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: Some of the things that some of the concepts that 305 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 4: I include in my book are just asking yourself tough 306 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: questions like why do I dress the way that I dress? 307 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 5: Why do I listen to the music that I listen to. 308 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: Do I really like this stuff? 309 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 4: Or is this just in my environment and the people 310 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: around me listen to these types of things or dress 311 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: this type of way. Those are questions that I had 312 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 4: to ask myself because I wasn't being stimulated by the 313 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: music that I was listening to. 314 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 5: In the locker room with my teammates. It just wasn't 315 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 5: for me. 316 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 4: I am an R and B gurly, and that's something 317 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 4: that I'm very comfortable with now, but at a certain 318 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: I would try to hide aspects of myself because I 319 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: noticed that people around me maybe just weren't like that, 320 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: and so I realized that there's some things about me 321 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: that are different. So that's one thing like again asking 322 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 4: yourself those tough questions, kind of just deep diving and 323 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 4: really getting to know who you are. 324 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: I want to hit you a little bit on your 325 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: your career. What makes you different than everybody else out there? 326 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 5: Basketball wise or basketball wise? 327 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 328 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 5: Basketball wise? 329 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? 330 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: What makes you say that female athletic player in the WNBA? 331 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: And no, I did not give myself that title, but 332 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: I will take it. I am notably super athletics super 333 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,239 Speaker 4: athlete crazy jeans, and I know that that's my separator, 334 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: and there's something about being in the WNBA. There's only 335 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: one hundred and forty four of us. Everyone has to 336 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: be a specialist. That's something. My specialty is my athleticism 337 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: and the fact that I'm able to rebound like crazy. 338 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: Was that something you think you were born with or 339 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: something you were taught? 340 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: Definitely born with. I mean, I have the work ethics, 341 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: so I think that helps as well. But my dad 342 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: would always tell me, like my ability to run, John 343 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: to just be athletic. He would always say, that's your gift, 344 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: that's your gift. When I was young, I didn't understand that. 345 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 4: But now I'm like, I see what you mean. 346 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: Now that you're in a mindfulness, are you able to 347 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: I've dealt with this with fighters and sometimes guys. Sometimes 348 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: I get real religious and they'll go, man, I'm kind 349 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: of feeling bad what I'm doing in there, and I'm like, no, no, no, 350 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: You're allowed to be two different chaps. It's fine, right. 351 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: Are you able to be a total gangster out there 352 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: and still know Okay, I'm still mindful by doing this. 353 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 5: Dude, I am a gospel gangster for I love that. 354 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 5: I love that I know that what I'm doing is 355 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 5: on purpose. 356 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: I know that I'm serving the Lord, and I'm always 357 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: asking God for that discernment to feel like I am 358 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: walking in alignment with the purpose that He has me 359 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: here for. 360 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: So you know, if you're just out there just throwing elbows, hey, 361 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: it's part of it. So I am. 362 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm not a starting player. That's different. 363 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: It's not dirty. You're doing what you gotta don. 364 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,119 Speaker 4: Man, throwing elbows, I would say throwing elbows is dirty. 365 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: That's well, if your rebounding, you just they just gotta 366 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: get out of your way. 367 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's an art to it. 368 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an art to it, absolutely absolute art to it. 369 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: So if you're doing it the artful way, that's okay. 370 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 5: But if you're just out here trying to hurt people, 371 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 5: that's no. 372 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't see that. 373 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: You know, I talked to a lot of teams about 374 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: mental health, and I don't know how it is. 375 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: In the the w NBA, like the NFL, they take 376 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: their therapist and they kind of usually put him or 377 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: upstairs or away or almost make it where it's like, ah, man, 378 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: you can really go up there, and I want them 379 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: next to the cafeteria or next to the weight room, 380 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: and you know you got to take your mental health 381 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: and attack it the same way you do your physical health. 382 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: What's it like in the w n B A. 383 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 4: I would say it's the same way to whereas like, 384 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 4: we have the option to address our mental health in 385 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: any way that we want. We have the resources. Whether 386 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: you tap in with it or not is up to you. 387 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 4: That's a part of being a pro. That's why I 388 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: love being a pro, because no one can hold your 389 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: hand through it. In college, people will hold your hand. 390 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: It's a lot more micromanaged. But as a pro, what 391 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 4: do you need? I feel like it would help everyone 392 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 4: who is a professional athlete to happen with their mind, 393 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: but not everyone feels like they need that. And I 394 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: think people at different points in their journey might realize 395 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: they need it. 396 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 5: Someone might be seven years in and say, you. 397 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 4: Know what, let me start tappening with my mind because 398 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: I realize it's more mental than physical, someone like me 399 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 4: who realized this as a rookie. We all hit it 400 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 4: at different stages, but the resources are definitely there. 401 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: They all need it. It's just that again, it's that 402 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: stigma still, and I think people like you, people like 403 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: mess help are helping them break down. Have you seen 404 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: a turn? And how many of your teammates or people 405 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: in the league start to approach you and say, hey, it' 406 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: see you're starting to talk about this and I like 407 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: to talk to about a little bit more. 408 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 5: I would say, yeah. 409 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 4: I think a lot of people have been impressed because 410 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: at first I've never been so just open about mental 411 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: health and having these conversations, and so I think a 412 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 4: lot of people are like, wow, I didn't know that 413 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: you were in this space. And when they do read 414 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: my book and just even see it and feel it 415 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 4: and just kind of like skin through it, they're like wow, 416 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 4: like this is impressive. 417 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 2: Do your coaches come to you about it a. 418 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: Little bit in the off season. It's season. 419 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 4: I see that their focus locked in as we should be. 420 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: But in the off season, they too were just like wow, 421 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 4: this is this is very impressive. My head coach actually 422 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 4: she was a player just a few years ago, and 423 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 4: so she's like, you know what, these weren't conversations that 424 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: were being had when I was a player, So I 425 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: think that's pretty cool. 426 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: And also take care of her because like our leaders 427 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: got to take everybody else, but who texts care of them. 428 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: They got to take on all your problems, right, but 429 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: no one makes sure that they're okay. And they sign 430 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 2: up to coach sports they didn't sign up to, you know, 431 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: to be a mental health coach, and sometimes it just 432 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 2: gets on their shoulders a lot. Yeah. 433 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a really good point. 434 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: What do you hope when all is sending down with 435 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: your book and then your next book and your book 436 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: after that, Like, where do you hope that this path 437 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 2: takes you? 438 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 5: That's a great question. 439 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: That's something that I'm praying on because I was twenty 440 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: four to twenty five when I started writing this book, 441 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: and I did not necessarily want to. 442 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 5: Like I said, I was, I'm. 443 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: Walking on purpose, and I'm asking God for that discernment 444 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: and so I'm leaving it. I'm being a steward and 445 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 4: I'm leaving it in his hands and I'm praying that 446 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: what he wants his will to be done with this book. 447 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, like one of the things I 448 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: bring up with my book to get me through my 449 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 2: depression anxiety is being of service. And that's what you're 450 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: doing whether you have like so, don't look at yourselves. 451 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: You're being of service and that's the great part of this. 452 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something that I'm still having to learn. It's 453 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: not about numbers or how many I'm selling. 454 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 5: It's okay. 455 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: One person said they were impacted and they felt great. 456 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: It's been more than one, but just it just means 457 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 4: a lot. It's touching the right people, and I know 458 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 4: that it'll be in the right people's. 459 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: Hands for sure. Let that feel you out. You know. 460 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: I kind of looked at it early on too, like, 461 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, for myself where I'm in, and yet 462 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 2: people were reaching out saying, Wow, you save my life. 463 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: If you inspired me to change my life. You gave 464 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: me the words to have the conversation with my son 465 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: or daughter, and I wasn't necessarily letting it sink in 466 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: the way it should have. Each one is sunk in 467 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: not my quest for success. 468 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 5: Right, Wow, thank you for that. Now I received that 469 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 5: for sure. 470 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, give me one more thing we could take out 471 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: of your book before I let you go. 472 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you my favorite quote that's in my book. 473 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 4: It could be better than yesterday, not as good as tomorrow. 474 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: My dad gave me that quote, and I would say 475 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: that's what I live by. It's striving to be great 476 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: every single day, You're chasing the best version of yourself, 477 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: and I think that that's how we should live life. 478 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 2: I love that, Manique Billings. I really appreciate you, and 479 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: I will take you up on it. I get to 480 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: a game, come there, I'll cheer you on. Absolutely. 481 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having me. 482 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us, and again, tell everybody what 483 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: the name of your book is. 484 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 4: Finding Balance, a playbook for wellness. You can find it 485 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 4: at my website Mobillings dot com or Instagram at Monique Billings. 486 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you so much for joining us. 487 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, God bless