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Speaker 1: it's called Battleground Well, because life is a battleground. It's

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Speaker 1: But Pete Hegseth is not one of those people. He's

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Speaker 3: I guess it just reminds us of the fallen nature

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Battleground. Man, it's great to have you as

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Speaker 3: mentioned that it happened, and I I wanted to use

433
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Speaker 3: those as a as a stepping stone, But they're part

434
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Speaker 3: of the foundation of who you become as a person,

435
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Speaker 3: and I'd like to think they you know, think of

436
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Speaker 3: the storms you've gone through, Think of the fights that

437
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Speaker 3: you've had. I mean, without those fights in the hills

438
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Speaker 3: of Afghanistan, you're not fortified and prepared to deal with

439
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Speaker 3: other things. And so I'd like to think that's all

440
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Speaker 3: part of the fabric of what makes us who we are.

441
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Speaker 3: And that's why somebody calling me a name on TV.

442
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Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, whatever, you know. I mean, we've all

443
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 3: seen worse and experienced worse, so but it is. It

444
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Speaker 3: is surreal, it is I and I guess you manage

445
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Speaker 3: it by not thinking about it all that much because

446
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: it was a long time ago and I was a

447
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Speaker 3: younger man, and it's onto different fights.

448
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so true, like I see men

449
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Speaker 1: and women who come home, I mean, being a warrior,

450
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Speaker 1: an American warrior, is something that at a certain point

451
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Speaker 1: in time in my life that to who I was.

452
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Speaker 1: But like you, I haven't moved on from it, right,

453
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: I've just maybe shifted fire a little bit. Like I

454
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: know that that is always going to be a core

455
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: part of who I am. But I see so many

456
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Speaker 1: men and women come home from the fight and they

457
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Speaker 1: get stuck in that identity and then they start spinning

458
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Speaker 1: their wheels and they never really focus on what the

459
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Speaker 1: next mission is. And you know, so much of I

460
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Speaker 1: think when a veteran comes home and transitions from war

461
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Speaker 1: is is a is identifying what that next mission is

462
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Speaker 1: going to be and sort of braiding it with your purpose.

463
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Speaker 2: Right, if you.

464
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Speaker 1: Can figure sure, you can figure out a way to

465
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Speaker 1: do that, it becomes rocket fuel and you just move

466
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Speaker 1: out and draw fire onto.

467
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Speaker 2: The next objective.

468
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Speaker 1: And for you, I don't want to put words in

469
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Speaker 1: your mouth, but you've always been in the fight, whether

470
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Speaker 1: it was on the battlefields or iractive Afghanistan, or even

471
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Speaker 1: here at home. My sense of Upede is that you've

472
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Speaker 1: always been involved in the direction of this country and

473
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Speaker 1: the understanding that in order to keep freedom that we

474
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Speaker 1: have here in this country, it has to be fought

475
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Speaker 1: for by every generation.

476
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Speaker 3: And I mean, yeah, I mean I stumbled into it.

477
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: I mean I wasn't very political when I showed up

478
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 3: in college and then I looked around. I'm like, wow,

479
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: y'all are lunatics. Okay, what is this? Gender is a

480
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 3: social constructor My religion teacher is like, you know what,

481
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 3: Jesus was not crucified on across and he was most

482
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Speaker 3: likely buried in a shallow grave and even by dogs.

483
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: I was like, like, you're my absolutely insane. So it

484
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 3: was more a reaction to like, whoa, I got to

485
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Speaker 3: do something about this. And so yeah, I did get

486
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Speaker 3: interested in advocating for the things that I believe, if

487
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Speaker 3: in artfully, and I didn't have all the answers. And

488
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 3: maybe that's a testament to just sometimes you charge ahead.

489
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Speaker 3: You're not going to have every answer, you're not going

490
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: to get everything right. But action breeds opportunities. And so

491
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: by standing up and being willing to say I stand

492
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Speaker 3: for something, it prepares you for the next time you

493
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Speaker 3: have to stand up and stand for something. Uh. And

494
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: but but you're right there. There's no doubt that when

495
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 3: when I came home from Iraq, I had this attitude

496
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Speaker 3: of all right, don't talk to me. I've done my part,

497
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: you know, like I can I can throw that now

498
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: that I've been there, done there, got the T shirt

499
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 3: and all of that. I'm you know, no one can

500
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Speaker 3: question my loyalty to this country for the rest and

501
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: no one can question my manhood. And I'm you know,

502
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: I know I was there. My guys know I was there,

503
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 3: and they know what they did that lasts is a

504
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: satisfying feeling for like two months, you know, and as

505
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 3: you've bellied up to the bar and internalized all this

506
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: muck that you're still dealing with, and you've told a

507
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 3: few stories here or there, and then and that's where

508
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: it either goes. You either start to identify that next

509
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: chapter of purpose or it goes south. And for me,

510
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 3: it went south for a while, I mean, just no doubt.

511
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Speaker 3: And thankfully there were good people and the other guys

512
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Speaker 3: I serve with, and frankly I had the benefit of

513
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: That's where the benefit of going to Princeton was there,

514
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: Like there were networks of people that reached out and

515
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 3: said can I help you? And you know, so many

516
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: guys we served with would never have access to that.

517
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 3: And they go back to their hometown or to their families,

518
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: great families, great hometowns, and they're great guys, and they

519
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: look at the opportunities in front of them there compared

520
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 3: to what they were doing in the military, and it's

521
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: it's baffling to find that next chapter. True, and it's hard,

522
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: so true.

523
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Speaker 2: It's it is hard.

524
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Speaker 1: And you tell you think like think about it, like

525
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: almost existentially it's like you have. You join the military,

526
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: and you become a part of the greatest military force

527
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: the world has ever known. I truly believe that there's

528
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: not been a military force in this world that rivaled

529
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Speaker 1: out of the United States of America. And you go

530
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Speaker 1: from that prestigious warrior culture if you're an enlisted guy,

531
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Speaker 1: you know, as you said, not most in listed guys

532
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: don't go to don't go to Princeton for their undergrad

533
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: you know. And those people transition out and and I

534
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: know because I've had conversations with them where they go

535
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: from being the best mortarman in the battalion, which is

536
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: a huge, a huge honor, uh to being offered a

537
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: job flipping burgers at McDonald's. And not that there's anything

538
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: wrong with that. There's honor in work and working to

539
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: provide for yourself and for your family. But it's not

540
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: the same as you know, putting that American flag on

541
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: your shoulder and fighting for a country that that you love,

542
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: you believe, you believe is exceptional, and coming home and

543
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: flipping burgers.

544
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: It's just an.

545
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a transition that most Americans are unaware of, I.

546
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 3: Think, absolutely right. And sometimes you know, they civilian might ask, well,

547
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: why don't they just stay in and be the mortarman?

548
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: And if that's such a big chapter of purpose, and

549
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: you and I both know, like the meat grinder that

550
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: is military service, whether it's multiple deployments, whether it's the

551
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: psychological part of it, whether it's inter personal dynamics, whether

552
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: it's bad leadership. You know, there are so many things

553
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: that can poison the well of really good soldiers who

554
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: then say, you know what, I thought, I wanted to

555
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 3: make it a career, but I'm on my way out

556
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: and it's different for everybody. Or a promotion structure that

557
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: actually isn't all that merit based, and it's a lot

558
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 3: more time based than it should be, and so it's

559
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: demoralizing and they so they leave thinking, all right, I've

560
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: done my part. There's you know, on degree your pastures

561
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: and it's just not that simple. And you know, you've

562
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: done a lot of work with Veterans Organization to try

563
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: to address that. It's what we talk about all the

564
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 3: time when we did it is find that chapter of

565
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: purpose and it can be being a husband and a

566
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: father too, and passing it on as you get older.

567
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: That's hard to realize when you're that age. I mean,

568
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: when you're younger, you don't realize how much your legacy

569
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: really isn't anything other than what you pass on to

570
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 3: your kids. And what I mean really, and I can

571
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: see my daughter through the window over here. She's five,

572
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: and it made me think of you. No, it made

573
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: me think of So she only knows me basically as

574
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: a forty year old man will never know the twenty

575
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: five year old that deployed, and we'll only look at

576
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 3: pictures of a man she never knew because she doesn't

577
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 3: recognize him that young, you know, And so her view

578
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: of me is not going to be based on what

579
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: I did in uniform. And my value to her is

580
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: going to be whether or not I teach her the

581
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: thing she needs to be. The type of Christian mother, wife,

582
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: citizen that are republic and Western civilization is going to

583
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: need to perpetuate itself in a world gone absolutely mad

584
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: and that is totally upside down. That's just hard for

585
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: a twenty six year old kid who was the best

586
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 3: mortarman in the company to come home and Okay, I'm

587
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: gonna pour into my family. They go, what do you mean,

588
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: I'm a poormanive fan like I gotta get a job.

589
00:29:54,040 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: I gotta you know what. And so it's it's just

590
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: got to keep encouraging guys to be there for other

591
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: guys and fight for the military to be better at

592
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: that transition process. And the ba's a disaster. That's not

593
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: the answer, at least not right now, and help outside

594
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: organizations that help guys heal and transition.

595
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: And how so you talked about the importance of family

596
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: and your daughter and you know, legacy. I have to

597
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: tell you that was something that was on my mind

598
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: in Afghanistan every day, you know, because you grapple with

599
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: these ideas of okay, of just absolute finality and death

600
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: which could happen at any second, you know, And I

601
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: found myself thinking on more than one occasion, like if

602
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: I die over here, right, I mean, you know, will

603
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: my family be sad?

604
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: Of course they will.

605
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: But everything that I was, that I am and ever

606
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: will be, is gone from this earth forever. And what

607
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: will buying legacy b Like I don't even have kids

608
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: to pass on a legacy too. And so now that

609
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I've come home and I've got a family and and

610
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I've got amazing kids, and in fact, we're blending a

611
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: family and and that comes with it a whole lot

612
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: of other challenges that you do the thing. I know

613
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: you are, I know, but how do you do that, Pete? Like,

614
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: how do you talk to your children about your service

615
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: and and and the and and you're right in a

616
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: world gone completely crazy about what it means to be

617
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: an American and teach them that that freedom is a

618
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: very fleeting thing.

619
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Speaker 3: Man. I just think, I think, I think we can

620
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: take nothing for granted in today's society. So yes, you can.

621
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's conversations, it's dinner table, it's bedtime,

622
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: it's long car rides, it's you know, the places where

623
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: you get a chance in that moment to dig deep

624
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: with your kid and dive into the development of their

625
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: soul and how they view the world. But you know,

626
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 3: you're a busy guy. I'm a busy guy. Let's be honest.

627
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: If you're relying on those moments only, you're in some

628
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: ways chipping at the margins, especially once they become teenagers

629
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: with devices and different friend networks and then they move off.

630
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: I mean, so, I think we're at a moment where

631
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: you can't unless you know exactly what the institution your

632
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: kids where they're going to school exactly what they believe

633
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: and what they're committed to. They could be a wash

634
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: in worldviews that are completely anathetical to everything that you

635
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: believe in. And because it used to be that the

636
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 3: church and the community and the school and the family,

637
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: they all kind of threw osmosis, especially if you lived

638
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: in a more conservative area. We're reinforcing each other and

639
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: you just can't rely on that anymore. And so I mean,

640
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: this is my backyard, by the way here, it's part

641
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: of it. And we moved to Tennessee specifically for that reason,

642
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: because we have our kids in a school that was okay,

643
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: and but you know, New Jersey just put all these

644
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: mandates for transgender you know, education down to first grade

645
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: or whatever. I did research for Battle for the American Mind.

646
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: It traveled across the country visiting schools we found. I mean,

647
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: I know, not everybody can do this, so I this

648
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Speaker 3: comes with a giant caveat. But we found a school

649
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Speaker 3: we love and we moved to it, and we said,

650
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Speaker 3: that's exactly the type of education I want for my

651
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Speaker 3: kids to be poured into them as they become and

652
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Speaker 3: in the hopes that they will become future culture warriors,

653
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Speaker 3: because that's what we're going to need, not survivors of

654
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Speaker 3: the culture who sort of whisper to you that like,

655
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Speaker 3: oh yeah, I believe there's only two genders, do you?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay? Cool? You know, like they got to be prepared,

657
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Speaker 3: to be fortified to stand up for what they believe in,

658
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Speaker 3: and and and then maybe if they want to take

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Speaker 3: the next step to serve great, But that's that is,

660
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Speaker 3: you know, even then, I'm worried about the military and

661
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: what it stands for right now, that's a whole other conversation.

662
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Speaker 3: It's a whole other conversation where it's heading. But I

663
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Speaker 3: just it is. It has become the burden of my

664
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Speaker 3: heart to find those ways because I my parents did

665
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Speaker 3: a great job, and they took us a church and

666
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Speaker 3: loved us and cared for us. And I had the

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Speaker 3: privilege of two parents who were together, and there's just

668
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Speaker 3: no doubt about it. Yeah, but I do think they

669
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Speaker 3: were able to take for granted the fact that we

670
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Speaker 3: were going to learn that stuff that they wanted us

671
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Speaker 3: to learn. They were never political or even intentionally cultural

672
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Speaker 3: about a lot of things. They were great, but that

673
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 3: didn't have to be I think we have to be

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Speaker 3: now if we want to, I mean the next generation.

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Speaker 1: I told first of all, you know, you know where

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Speaker 1: I stand on this. I totally agree. And I think

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Speaker 1: as being a parent, like so much of being a

678
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Speaker 1: father or being a parent is I mean, god man like,

679
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Speaker 1: you sort of learn as you go, right. There's there's

680
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Speaker 1: lots of books written about you know what to expect

681
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Speaker 1: when expecting, and lots of lots of books that talk

682
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Speaker 1: about you know, how to be a good parent, But

683
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Speaker 1: really a lot of it is just you learn as

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Speaker 1: you go. And I think one of the things that

685
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Speaker 1: I've learned over time is you're not gonna have I mean,

686
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: we're busy people, as you mentioned, and that's not something

687
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Speaker 1: that's unique to us. Lots of parents are busy, and

688
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: so you almost have to embody what you want your

689
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Speaker 1: children to become. So if it is fighting for this

690
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Speaker 1: country and teaching them about what it means to be

691
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Speaker 1: an American and what it means to be free, and

692
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Speaker 1: what it means to be a culture warrior, with going

693
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Speaker 1: into that with the understanding that people are going to

694
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Speaker 1: despise you, but it is what's necessary to stand up

695
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: to the modern day progressive left like this ain't you're

696
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: this ain't my grandfather's Democrat party anymore? Like one of

697
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Speaker 1: the things that I've recognized as I've sort of grown

698
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: up and grown into this political world that we live

699
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Speaker 1: in today. I mean, everything is political. Even even late

700
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: night TV is political, which I loathe. But you have

701
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Speaker 1: to go into it as a conservative understanding the importance

702
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Speaker 1: of culture. And I think Republicans by and large have

703
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: seed culture to Democrats for the better part of fifty years,

704
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: much to our detriment. And it's so much of what

705
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: I see out of Republicans who either want to run

706
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: for office or even incumbents who've been in office in

707
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: the House and the Senate for a lifetime is they

708
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: want the adoration of the media and the celebrities. But

709
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Speaker 1: you guess what, it doesn't matter how much you try

710
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Speaker 1: to ingratiate yourself with that community, Pete, It's never going

711
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Speaker 1: to happen. And you have to go into it with

712
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Speaker 1: the understanding that that's going to be the case.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and the sooner you internalize that and realize if

714
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Speaker 3: they are my enemy, that I'm doing the right things,

715
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Speaker 3: the better place you are. And to the previous part

716
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Speaker 3: of that too, it's kind of weird. I don't know

717
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: if I'm guessing other generations had this feeling too, Certainly

718
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: not the World War two generation. They came out of

719
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 3: it very optimistic about the future, and other generations have had,

720
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Speaker 3: you know, ebbing and flowing senses of optimism and and

721
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 3: a pessimism. But looking at the fissures and fractures inside

722
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: our culture and our country right now, looking at the

723
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Speaker 3: state of higher education, of media, of big corporations, certainly

724
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 3: of academia, you know, social media, all of those have

725
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: been completely government have been completely corrupted to their core

726
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: or taken over by the hard left. I look at

727
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: my kids and I say, I don't know what's in

728
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: store for you. I really don't. I mean, I'm forty.

729
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: Who knows what are Republic's going to look like in

730
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Speaker 3: five or ten or fifteen years. And you and I

731
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: are going to be a part of, hopefully, you know,

732
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: leading the charge for things that are good and right

733
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Speaker 3: and true, that stand for the ideals this nation was

734
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Speaker 3: founded on. You're committed to that. I'm committed to that.

735
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Speaker 3: If that's my life's work, great, and it could go well,

736
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Speaker 3: and it could go sideways. But I feel like for

737
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 3: my kids. It's gonna go sideways at some point because

738
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Speaker 3: you can't maintain the absolute sort of ongoing fissure slash

739
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 3: underground divorce that we have in our culture, where half

740
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Speaker 3: the country thinks we're the greatest country in human history

741
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Speaker 3: and the other one thinks for the worst country in

742
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Speaker 3: human history. And then we don't have faith in our

743
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: elections anymore because of the way that's been changed, and

744
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: we don't have faith in our intelligence agencies anymore, and

745
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: certainly are electing, you know, more hardcore Republicans and more

746
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 3: hardcore Democrats, and for totally understandable reasons. At some point

747
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: that reaches a breaking point, which history shows us is

748
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Speaker 3: not a good one. And I don't welcome that. I

749
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: don't want that, but I agree I see that for

750
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: my kids, and I go, either you're going to be

751
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: the one who puts their head in the sand and

752
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: tries to make a buck or figure it out or

753
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Speaker 3: shelter their family, or you're going to be someone who is,

754
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: you know, putting their shoulders to the plow. And I

755
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: want shoulders on the plow. Whenever that moment comes, I.

756
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Speaker 1: Mean, no doubt, I mean, and who knows what the

757
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: future has in store for our children. Hell, our country

758
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: could be broke by then. And you look at like,

759
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: what's happening with this one point seven trillion dollar omnibus

760
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: spending bill four thousand plus pages. Dan Bishop had a

761
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: thread on it in Twitter, and all the stuff that

762
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: we waste money on, you know, for example, four hundred

763
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Speaker 1: and ten million to border security for other countries like Lebanon, Egypt, Domon,

764
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: but and funding for our border police as long as

765
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Speaker 1: they're not using that funding to actually secure the border,

766
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Speaker 1: which to me is just it's just crazy. You know,

767
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,720
Speaker 1: we're wasting all of this money at a time where

768
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Americans this is this is where I have a real

769
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: problem with both Republicans and Democrats. Right, do they recognize

770
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: the things that we're talking about, because it seems like

771
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: DC and Washington and those inside the Beltway are just

772
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: on autopilot and they've learned nothing from.

773
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Speaker 2: What I don't think if I think representative, I mean,

774
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Speaker 2: it's crazy.

775
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: It's I mean, Mitch McConnell is hell bent on cutting

776
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Speaker 3: a deal with Nancy Pelosi so he doesn't have to

777
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: deal with Kevin McCarthy because he'd rather deal with Nancy Pelosi.

778
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: I mean, Trump the further we get away from Trump's presidency,

779
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: the more it is we should realize again the anomaly

780
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 3: that was his candidacy and presidency. And frankly, it makes

781
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Speaker 3: me want that moment back because you get it, you

782
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 3: have it, you go okay, yeah, I see that. Then

783
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 3: the further you get away from it, you realize, no,

784
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 3: that was an affront to everything that the institutions, the

785
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: bureaucracy stood for, and they hid back and waited as

786
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: long as they could to try to wait him out

787
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: or take him out so they could go back to

788
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: business as usual, which is really to sell out our

789
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Speaker 3: country on either side.

790
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Speaker 2: And Pete, it's not sustainable.

791
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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

792
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not sustainable, right, You're so right. The

793
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: further we get away from from the Trump presidency, I

794
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: think his presidency. Look, love President Trump or hate him.

795
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: I I was a huge supporter. Everybody that's watching.

796
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Speaker 2: This knows that. But like it taught us a lot

797
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: about where we are.

798
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Speaker 1: The further we get away from it, the more I

799
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: see it brings into real focus just how broken Washington is.

800
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Speaker 1: And that's what he represented. He was a system disruptor.

801
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: He was an fu to the system, to the status quo,

802
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what so many Americans, even a

803
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: lot of blue collar Democrats, who this country, in this economy,

804
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: has just left the working men and woman behind. Trump

805
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: represented hope to them in the idea that the system

806
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: could change, but the system again inside the Beltway Republicans

807
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: as well, just went after him in a way that

808
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: I never even thought possible to. Now, you know, we're

809
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: talking about releasing President Trump's tax returns, like from what

810
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to twenty twenty, Like, what standard does that

811
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: set for any politician running for office? I mean, obviously,

812
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: now that it's happening to Trump, it can happen to

813
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: any Democrat. Like how shortsighted are some of our political It.

814
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: Won't happen to Democrats. That's the scary It won't happen

815
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: to Democrats. It is just I mean, first of first

816
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: of all, just happened to Donald Trump. He was such

817
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: an anomaly that they would stop at nothing to crush him.

818
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: I think the most revealing moment will be and I

819
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: hope it's not twenty twenty four, because I hope it's

820
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 3: Donald Trump in twenty twenty four, but it will be

821
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: what happens to the next Republican nominee or presidential candidate

822
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: or Republican who wins the presidency, how are they treated.

823
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Speaker 3: Was Trump just a revelation of what they'll do to

824
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: any Republican therefore all political opponents or was he just

825
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 3: so bad to them that they pulled out all the stops,

826
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Speaker 3: not making any of that acceptable at all. By the way,

827
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Speaker 3: I mean, Trump got eleven million more votes the second

828
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: time around that he did the first.

829
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Speaker 1: Gore believable, like how yeah, exactly, like we knew going

830
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Speaker 1: into that if he were to if you weren't going

831
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Speaker 1: to perform like that. I don't think there's a political

832
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Speaker 1: pundit in this country that that said, hey, Trump's gonna

833
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: and is going to get a lambined plus million. Yeah,

834
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Speaker 1: he's gonna win, bar none.

835
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Speaker 2: You know.

836
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Speaker 3: I mean, we ran into we run into the difference

837
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Speaker 3: between voters and ballots, and that's all.

838
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Speaker 1: That's exactly right and so and so, speaking of Congress

839
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: not learning anything like something that that just boggles the

840
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Speaker 1: mind is you have Zelensky coming in speaking uh to Congress,

841
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: which of course is correlates to the passing of this

842
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: omnibus spending bill, which, by the way, like Republicans in

843
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: the Senate, what the hell are you doing? Like why

844
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: how do you not punt this to January where Republicans

845
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: control the House, just so that we can have a

846
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: debate about what is in it? The bill was released

847
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: at two am yesterday. I think Dan Bishop said that,

848
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Speaker 1: like to read the entire four thousand plus page bill,

849
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Speaker 1: you'd have had to read four pages a minute without

850
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Speaker 1: a single break.

851
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Speaker 2: For sixteen hours.

852
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 1: So you have that, you have that dynamic where no

853
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat in Washington could possibly read this bill

854
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 1: before they sign off on it. To Zelenski speaking on

855
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: the floor of the House, and of course Schumer talked

856
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: about I helpe republicans'll take a page out of President

857
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: Trump's book and his friendship with Putin doesn't put them

858
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: up like how does this help the dialogue at all?

859
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: And more importantly than that, like what the hell's the

860
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Speaker 1: mission in Ukraine? What's the end state? We're spending over

861
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Speaker 1: one hundred billion dollars with probably one hundred more promised

862
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: in this omnibus spending bill, Like where's the money going?

863
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Speaker 2: What are we using it for? And then never mind

864
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Speaker 2: the fact that.

865
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Speaker 1: The Biden family has some weird, incestuous relationship with the

866
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Speaker 1: leadership of Ukraine, like you know, fire the prosecutor or

867
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Speaker 1: you don't get the billion dollars type stuff, like in

868
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Speaker 1: all the while, Pete, all the while, the American people

869
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Speaker 1: can't put gas in their car and can't afford to

870
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Speaker 1: food to their table. I just think the priorities are

871
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Speaker 1: just totally jacked up.

872
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Speaker 3: I couldn't say it better myself. Everything you laid out

873
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: is spot on. I mean, it's the opposite of America first.

874
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: And that's what absolutely Trump threatened the International Order of

875
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: Council on Formulation Washington, D C. Brookings Institute types who

876
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: just assumed that the way things worked forever in the

877
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Speaker 3: world will be the way they work. And they were

878
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: never told their wars were stupid stupid, or their generals

879
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: were losers, or that NATO didn't step up, or that China,

880
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: you know, would Unleasha virus. So let's call it the

881
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Speaker 3: China virus and hold a new account for it. All

882
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: all of those things. We're a calling out of an

883
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Speaker 3: international order that was failing and is continuing to fail,

884
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Speaker 3: and now has a great advocate in the regime currently

885
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Speaker 3: in the White House. So they go right back to

886
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Speaker 3: business as usual and Ukraine. You can't that that Schumer

887
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Speaker 3: statement you mentioned about him sort of talking about Putin

888
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: is it's basically a fight Donald Trump by fighting Putin

889
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Speaker 3: through Zelensky war in Yah. I mean it really is.

890
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Speaker 2: That's so true. That is so true.

891
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Speaker 3: They finally found a war they just absolutely love and

892
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: it was all over the defense of Europe. As if

893
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Speaker 3: he couldn't even take Kiev. Now he's going to take

894
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Speaker 3: Europe and we need to throw the kitchen sink at it,

895
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Speaker 3: even though he's got a bunch of nukes and could

896
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Speaker 3: light the world on fire if you wanted to.

897
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Speaker 1: Uh.

898
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Speaker 3: And this is the greatest threat to democracy the world

899
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Speaker 3: has ever seen. Yet we don't know where a lot

900
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Speaker 3: of these weapons are going. And we're not even funding

901
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: our own military. We can't even recruit into our own military,

902
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Speaker 3: let alone all the other and we have a border

903
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Speaker 3: that we're we're pumping billions to defend a border and

904
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Speaker 3: our border is like you know, Sumer.

905
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Speaker 1: Sumar Schumer is like, oh, he Lensky comes to the

906
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Speaker 1: house floor as the embodiment of freedom itself. Like freedom

907
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Speaker 1: we just heard for the last week is the Twitter

908
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Speaker 1: files of the FBI paying American taxpayer dollars to Twitter

909
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Speaker 1: to then censor Americans whose taxpayer dollars paid for the censorship.

910
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Speaker 2: Since when did democrats care about freedom?

911
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: Do you?

912
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Speaker 1: I mean you remember, I'm sure many of the fights

913
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Speaker 1: that we had, like over the Iraq war and the

914
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Speaker 1: war in Afghanistan. And since when are democrats pro war?

915
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Speaker 1: What world do we live in?

916
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Speaker 2: And you talk about a.

917
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Speaker 1: Crazy world where guys like me and you, I mean,

918
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Speaker 1: I'm not anti war, not by a long shot. Like

919
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: I understand that freedom needs to be protected and there

920
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Speaker 1: are those of us that need to rise up to

921
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Speaker 1: do it. And God forbid, if there's ever a war

922
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Speaker 1: where our freedom needs to be protected, will be the

923
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Speaker 1: first one in line going to protect it. But these

924
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Speaker 1: sort of proxy wars that feed the sort of military

925
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Speaker 1: industrial complex. And you talk about the lack of trust

926
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Speaker 1: in our institutions, like I'm at a point where I

927
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Speaker 1: don't trust anything that the government is saying. The idea

928
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Speaker 1: that Zelensky comes to the house floor as the embodiment

929
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Speaker 1: of freedom is laughable to me.

930
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Speaker 3: Well, he's banning certain I mean, at the same time,

931
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Speaker 3: he's banning certain media outlets, and he's banning you know,

932
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Speaker 3: certain portions of the church. I mean, he's consolidating power

933
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Speaker 3: in some ways. Yeah, yeah, anyway, so it's a bit ironic,

934
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Speaker 3: but yeah, yeah. So here we are in love with

935
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Speaker 3: a new war that has any series of umpteen unintended consequences,

936
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Speaker 3: fresh off of two wars that spent twenty years and

937
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: unleashed massive amounts of unattended consequences that our leaders told

938
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Speaker 3: us were rather unimportant or or wouldn't happen. It just

939
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Speaker 3: I guess it just reminds us of the fallen nature

940
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Speaker 3: of humans, how dumb we really will be forever, and

941
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Speaker 3: how craven for power. To your point that find a

942
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Speaker 3: cause you can chance as if it is the champion

943
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Speaker 3: of freedom, because you're not actually fighting for freedom, but

944
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Speaker 3: you know that that's what America is supposed to be

945
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Speaker 3: premised on. So instead you you wave the flag, you

946
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Speaker 3: wave the blue and yellow flag as if it's the

947
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Speaker 3: American flag, and say that you're a patriot.

948
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so well said. I yeah, Pete, I

949
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: want to be respectful of your time. Uh, but I

950
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Speaker 1: also want to talk about real quickly the Life of Jesus,

951
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: and that it's premiering on Fox Nation and I watched

952
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: the trailer on your Instagram and man, it was so powerful,

953
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: like the idea that you're there, boots on the ground,

954
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Speaker 1: following his footsteps, learning about his life. Uh, did you

955
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Speaker 1: did you walk the Stations of the Cross? Can please

956
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Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about what that looks like

957
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: because it looks powerful?

958
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was humbling, it was amazing it

959
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 3: it Uh, it's one thing to talk about it, we've

960
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: all read it, but to see there, to be there too,

961
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Speaker 3: to see it and to be there and to be

962
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Speaker 3: at the very place. And we learn more every decade

963
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Speaker 3: about archaeologically, about what correlates with what and where it is.

964
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Speaker 3: I mean, yes, we did watch the walk the Stations

965
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Speaker 3: of the Cross. We went to where the Last Supper occurred.

966
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Speaker 3: We went to you know, Golgatha. It's a big church church,

967
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Speaker 3: the Holy Sepucher. But there's also another location that just

968
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Speaker 3: blows your mind when you're there that may event actually

969
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: been the actual tomb and the stone that was rolled away.

970
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Speaker 3: I mean, I get chills just you go to the

971
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Speaker 3: wilderness where Jesus was tempted and you realize how vast,

972
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Speaker 3: how hot it was in the day and how cold

973
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Speaker 3: it was at night, and how empty it was, and

974
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Speaker 3: how forty days and forty nights for a mere mortal

975
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Speaker 3: is impossible. The Jordan River where he was baptized, I

976
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Speaker 3: mean his hometown, where they threw him out of the

977
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Speaker 3: synagogue and almost threw him off of a cliff. You know,

978
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Speaker 3: you've read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. We've all heard

979
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Speaker 3: the stories. But when you weave them together and you

980
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Speaker 3: start to tell almost a chronological story, it gives you

981
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: a sense of the gathering storm that was the clash

982
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: between God on Earth performing miracles clearly proclaiming the Gospel

983
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Speaker 3: and proclaiming to be the Messiah, and religious authorities and

984
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: others who said, no, this is a heretic. I mean,

985
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 3: he's either the Messiah or he's a false prophet. And

986
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 3: people were choosing sides, and you could feel the mounting tension.

987
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: So this first part of the series, which got released

988
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: on Fox Nation for Christmas, is from birth to basically

989
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: up to Holy Week, and then in Easter we're going

990
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: to release the Holy Week Stations of the Cross, everything

991
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: that you see in Jerusalem. But it was it's humbling.

992
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I know, I can't tell I mean,

993
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 3: how can you tell the story of Jesus Christ. You can't.

994
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: But I took a pastor with me and we went

995
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 3: to the places where it happened, not to say did

996
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: it happen, but we know what happened. We think it

997
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: happened here, and here's the scriptures that tell us why

998
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: it's important.

999
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: Pete. It just looks incredible, man.

1000
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: And how is that into perspective?

1001
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: Because I know it does.

1002
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: You know, when you think about your faith, you tie

1003
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: it to what's actually happening in the world. Now, you

1004
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: look at what happened to Jesus and sort of the

1005
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: life and death clashes that happened around his spirituality and

1006
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: the kind of person that he was eater he became

1007
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: having been in the arena myself, you know, like in

1008
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: a complete nube, you know, in terms of like just

1009
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: even running for office. It really you do see that

1010
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: there are you know, spiritual forces at work, not just

1011
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: in this country, but all over the world. And I

1012
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: think the life of Jesus really brings that into perspective

1013
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: and reminds people just how important it is to be

1014
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: on the right side of those things, and has that

1015
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: journey for you in filming this this special or documentary

1016
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: or whatever you're calling it, has that changed the way

1017
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: that you see the fighter of you always seen it

1018
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: that way?

1019
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 3: Well for sure. I mean I think it's easy to

1020
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: fight and what's the right way to put it. You

1021
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: can fight for intellectual reasons because you know something to

1022
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 3: be true, and that's probably the easier mode to fight in.

1023
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 3: And that's probably the instinct that I have at the

1024
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 3: very least going to Israel and seeing this and growing

1025
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 3: in my faith over the last five six years going

1026
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: to Israel. I've been eight or nine times, and this

1027
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: was a ten day trip to do it. It's as

1028
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 3: my pastor says, it's taken it from the twelve inches

1029
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: from the head to the heart is where most people

1030
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 3: miss Jesus because it's right up here, but it's not

1031
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: in here. And feeling it and seeing it, touching it

1032
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 3: is it kind of leaves an imprint that when you're

1033
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: doing your devotions every day you say, Okay, I think

1034
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: I understand a little bit more what Jesus meant. Not

1035
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: some special insight. I don't have any special insight. It's

1036
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: just a connection to the feeling of what he may

1037
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 3: have experienced and what he was trying to impart on people,

1038
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: and I just that's what we're trying to do with

1039
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: the film, is share that good news of Jesus that

1040
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: we all need because human nature never changes. I mean,

1041
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 3: as much as we may want to think we've progressed

1042
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: or no, we are the same fallen, sinful souls that

1043
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 3: Jesus encountered two thousand years ago. And if he walked

1044
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 3: onto my yard right now and proclaimed to be the Messiah,

1045
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: I might deny him the same way people around him

1046
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: who saw miracles denied him. Because there is a spiritual

1047
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: battle on this earth. As you said, every single day.

1048
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: Lies are the most potent weapons of the devil, and

1049
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: we fall for them every day in ways big and small.

1050
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: And so the more I the more I'm out in

1051
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: the public square, have the more I want to make

1052
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: sure I'm right with him in reconcile. And I think

1053
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 3: it's something as young people we just sort of dismiss

1054
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 3: or we play with that the super level. It's part

1055
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 3: of getting older again is I want to know my creator.

1056
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Speaker 3: I want to have a personal relationship with Jesus that

1057
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Speaker 3: changes my heart so that I have the humility and

1058
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 3: the courage to see what is right, or the wisdom

1059
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Speaker 3: to see what is right and the courage to do it,

1060
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Speaker 3: and the humility to know I don't have every answer,

1061
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: but also that assurance of heart that we talked about

1062
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 3: earlier on in the program, that if my life were

1063
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: to end today, I know that I know, I know

1064
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: who I served or who I wanted to be serving,

1065
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Speaker 3: and what my purpose was here on earth. That I

1066
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Speaker 3: think if you make your life, your life the center

1067
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Speaker 3: of your worship, then you start then politics becomes a god,

1068
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: and the climate becomes a god, and COVID becomes a god,

1069
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 3: and safety becomes a god. And that's why a lot

1070
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,919
Speaker 3: of you can get really unhappy really fast. And I've

1071
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Speaker 3: had plenty of scars and failures and missteps in my life,

1072
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Speaker 3: and if those defined me, then I would be laying

1073
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Speaker 3: in the yard in a fetal position. But instead I'm

1074
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Speaker 3: you know, redeemed by a savior who went through a

1075
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Speaker 3: lot more than that and gives me a second chance.

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Speaker 3: And so I hope people will watch it for Christmas,

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Speaker 3: want to watch it the most, Sean are my kids,

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Speaker 3: you know, and they're probably gonna watch it like oh Dad,

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Speaker 3: another program. Yeah, I know the story of Jesus. I

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Speaker 3: know I'm going to be utterly disappointed by their reaction

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Speaker 3: pick it back up or I send it to them

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Speaker 3: and they say, oh Dad, Okay, now I get it,

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Speaker 3: you know, and it deepens their faith if we're going

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Speaker 3: to need a deepening of all of our faith to

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Speaker 3: deal with what's coming.

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Speaker 1: No question, man, no question will Pete. Thanks so much

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Speaker 1: for coming on Battleground and the Life of Jesus. Watch

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Speaker 1: it on Fox Nation. If you're not a member of

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Speaker 1: Fox Nation, join up watch it, especially around this time

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Speaker 1: of year.

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Speaker 2: It will be worth it.

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Speaker 1: God bless you man, and God bless this God bless

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Speaker 1: you country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One last thing, I just want to say, I just

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas to you. I can't tell you how much

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Speaker 3: I appreciate the way you fight, the way you fought,

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Speaker 3: and what you've gone through. And you are a leader

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Speaker 3: been through the fire. So I couldn't be prouder of

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Speaker 3: where you've been, what you're doing and how you're doing it,

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Speaker 3: and congrats on this great podcast and sky's a limit

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Speaker 3: and appreciate you man. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks brother, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: Take care, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everyone, that's a wrapp mission complete. If you like

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Speaker 1: what you heard, please subscribe to my YouTube channel and

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Speaker 1: the more shows we can do for you. Please join

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Speaker 1: the platoon. Follow me on Twitter Sean Parnell USA, and

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Speaker 2: Media reviews for me because that helps too.

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Speaker 1: And as always, I am truly grateful for your support.

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Speaker 1: None of this is possible without you. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining me, and God bless you all, and

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Speaker 1: God bless this amazing country that we live in.

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Speaker 2: Take care,