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Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon Bross. Two thousand in eighteen. Happy New Year, Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. I missed you, guys, I did. I missed

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Speaker 1: this show. I missed the fans. I did not miss Douglas,

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Speaker 1: but I missed you Nate and I missed shirts. Thank

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Speaker 1: you well, another year, another playoff? Missed. How you guys

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Speaker 1: feel about this? I thought you used to be in Misco,

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Speaker 1: right you? Two week week and a half. All right,

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Speaker 1: y'all will be solo and oh, by the way, we

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Speaker 1: will be on Mondays at eleven o'clock am. From here

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Speaker 1: until probably at least training camp. We're gonna have various

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Speaker 1: guests on from time to time. Speaking of Chris Hall

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Speaker 1: that we had on earlier this season, what's his title, Kurt. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's like he has to do with the computer databases

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Speaker 1: and stuff in. Yeah, it's like the second man in

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Speaker 1: the scouting department or something. Yeah, he's got some some

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Speaker 1: great stories and in great points of view. He will

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Speaker 1: be joining us at some point during today. Uh, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have brought us on from time to time to

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Speaker 1: talk about the draft and promote the Draft show that

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Speaker 1: they have weekly now, and we'll have some other surprised

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Speaker 1: that's something to look forward to and something else to

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Speaker 1: look forward to. Nate, how do you feel about nine?

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Speaker 1: And seven meanless? Don't mean a thing? It don't and

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Speaker 1: and I struggle with that. Yeah, really both of them

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Speaker 1: the conclusion. For me, Uh, as an ex player and

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Speaker 1: don't live an unrealistic life. I don't reach out there

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. I don't do that. But but but my

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Speaker 1: inspectations of winning in your division are going ten and

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Speaker 1: six should be a realistic goal. That's one gets you

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Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs. Ten and six is a ninety

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Speaker 1: eight or ninety seven percent chance that you will be

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs every year, that that is my goal.

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Speaker 1: I would that that ninety seven. I you know, I

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Speaker 1: I say, well, yeah, you ain't. My wife I was

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Speaker 1: gonna says something. But what I'm saying, see ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: to seven? He just says nothing. It's meaningless. It don't

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Speaker 1: building on next year. I hope it makes you hungry.

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Speaker 1: ninety seven does nothing. Now is the season a failure? No,

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Speaker 1: we've seen him throw interceptions, but those interceptions we saw

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Speaker 1: out of the way. Kurt Daniels, Nate Newton, Shannon Gross Douglas.

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Speaker 1: Even though we don't like to knowledge, you're back there,

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Speaker 1: I understand. We are joined by very special guest Chris Hall.

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Speaker 1: What's up, fellow, what's up with you? I'll just getting

446
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: ready to get gets some serious scouting, get after it.

447
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: So for the people that didn't tune into the show

448
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: earlier in the season when you were on, what exactly

449
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Speaker 1: is your title and kind of what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I'm the Assistant director of College Scouting and Basically, I'm

451
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: tasked with keeping track of our circus back there that

452
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: leads up to the draft every April. So you're not

453
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Speaker 1: busy at all right about this now here, just waiting

454
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Speaker 1: to see what's going on, you know. So what is

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Speaker 1: your with all these Senior Bowl games and All Star

456
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Speaker 1: Games and all that stuff. What's your next couple few

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Speaker 1: weeks look like? The next couple of weeks basically is

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Speaker 1: exactly that. It's all Star games. There's a there's a

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Speaker 1: small game here locally in Addison that will spend some

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Speaker 1: time looking at some players. They don't play a game,

461
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Speaker 1: but they practice and get together and do teamwork and

462
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Speaker 1: some scrimmages for three days. And after that there's the

463
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Speaker 1: NFLPA game out in California and the East West Shrine

464
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Speaker 1: game down in Florida. We'll split our staff up and

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Speaker 1: half will go east, half will go West. And then

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Speaker 1: the following week we all end up in Mobile, Alabama

467
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Speaker 1: for the week watching the Senior Bowl. So we'll get

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Speaker 1: our eyes on a lot of players, from first rounders

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Speaker 1: to free agents over the next couple of weeks. Cool,

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Speaker 1: So what exactly, so when you go to those games,

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Speaker 1: what's your role to do? You guys have meetings after

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Speaker 1: practices and kind of talk and collect notes or how

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Speaker 1: does that process? Yeah, a little bit. Um. We kind

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Speaker 1: of split up the positions by depending on who's it

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Speaker 1: what game. Each scout's kind of assigned a cross check

476
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Speaker 1: position and they follow that and they also follow the

477
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Speaker 1: players that they've scouted during the year. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: their first chance in a lot of cases to get

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Speaker 1: to actually interview these guys and talk with them and

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00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: get to know the person a little bit. You've watched

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Speaker 1: them on tape, you've heard other people tell you about

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Speaker 1: who they are and what they what they can do.

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Speaker 1: But now as your chance to actually visit with the

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Speaker 1: with the player and get to see how they talk

485
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Speaker 1: to you and how they react to your questions and

486
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Speaker 1: get to know the person a little bit. On top

487
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Speaker 1: of the player, before we let Kurt get at you,

488
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Speaker 1: how many players when y'all first started this soon after

489
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Speaker 1: training camp, because that's when they soon after training camp

490
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Speaker 1: they started leaving training camp going into the designated regions.

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Speaker 1: How many guys we y'all just glimpse at over that

492
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Speaker 1: period of time. Well, we are our database started off

493
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Speaker 1: with about eight hundred players in it, and it's up

494
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: to almost twelve hundred. Now, man start looking at the

495
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: juniors that come out, the guys that maybe weren't written

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Speaker 1: by our scouting service to start off with, and just

497
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Speaker 1: players that have played their way into be in prospects

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Speaker 1: this fall. So, you know, we've got a staff of

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Speaker 1: ten college guys that are out there, and we break

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Speaker 1: the country up into eight regions and four guys go

501
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: over the top of that and we try and get

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Speaker 1: eyes on everybody. At least two people see all the

503
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Speaker 1: guys that we're that we think we might get to camp,

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00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: and three or four guys to see the players that

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Speaker 1: we feel will be on our draft board. That was

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Speaker 1: what I was kind of wondering at this point. Are

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Speaker 1: you you're going to these All star games? Are they're

508
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Speaker 1: like a handful of guys. I really want to see

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Speaker 1: them a handful of position. I really got to focus

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Speaker 1: on that. Are you? Is it still kind of a

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Speaker 1: blanket trying to see It's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we've we've got a ton of grades

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Speaker 1: in our system, and we've got a board working board built,

514
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: and we've got cross checklists set up so we know

515
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Speaker 1: who the top ten to twenty players are at each position,

516
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Speaker 1: and we're starting to zoom in on those guys a

517
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Speaker 1: little bit more than the guys that we think are

518
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Speaker 1: camp guys or guys out of that twelve hundred players

519
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: that really don't fit our scheme or we don't think

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Speaker 1: are good enough. At this point without giving us dates,

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00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: it won't be too long before y'all meet with the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff to see where their thoughts at. Right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's one thing we've done a really good job, and

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Speaker 1: I give Will McClay a lot of credit for that

525
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: is kind of bridging the gap, and our coaching staff

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Speaker 1: deserves credit too, because we've really come together a little

527
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Speaker 1: bit more over the last few years and work together

528
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: really well in this spring process of helping sort out

529
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Speaker 1: understanding better what the coaches want in the schemes that

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Speaker 1: we're playing and trying to provide those players and eliminate

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Speaker 1: the guys that really don't fit what we do. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know Nate back in your day, I

533
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Speaker 1: mean you could run and pull. Well, we still want

534
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Speaker 1: guys that can run and pull, but you'd rather have

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Speaker 1: a big guy that can run and pull than a

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Speaker 1: little guy that can run. Right, So, thanks for not

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Speaker 1: calling me fat never now, But yeah, I mean, you understand,

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Speaker 1: the more we understand what our coaches are doing, the

539
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: better we can help get them the right kind of

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Speaker 1: players that they think can succeed in the schemes that

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Speaker 1: we're playing right now. When do you have your first, say,

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Speaker 1: for this upcoming draft in April? When did you have

543
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: your first board, your first draft board put together where

544
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Speaker 1: you actually had guys kind of Well, we have a

545
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: working board right out of the gate to start with,

546
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Speaker 1: just based on like an A grade to be a

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Speaker 1: grade in a C grade, and then as our actual

548
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: grades come in through the fall, we build that board

549
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Speaker 1: as we go as we get the grades, so we're

550
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: always slotting guys up and down and moving them. So

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00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: we've got a pretty good idea where we feel the

552
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: strength of the draft is at this point, and you know,

553
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: hopefully that that marries up with some of you know,

554
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: the weaker areas on our team that we're looking to improve.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we really addressed our secondary last year.

556
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Speaker 1: We felt that you're looking at it last year, that

557
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Speaker 1: that was a real deep part of the draft and

558
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Speaker 1: we were able to you know, pick out some guys

559
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Speaker 1: and put them in there, and by the end of

560
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: the year they were playing pretty good for us, and

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00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: the future looks good for those guys in the back

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Speaker 1: end right now. So when you say, right out of

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Speaker 1: the gate, say the draft is the end of April,

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Speaker 1: when will you have next year's draft board? Will you

565
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Speaker 1: already have one kind of set right after that or

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Speaker 1: is it a few months before training camp? You know, Okay,

567
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Speaker 1: by the time we get to training camp, we kind

568
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Speaker 1: of have an idea on how the guys are slotted

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Speaker 1: in there and what what it's looking Nate, you said

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Speaker 1: they weren't only be like once again said they were

571
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Speaker 1: working the camp board. We caught that look on camera.

572
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: They said, Wow, if you're just listening to this, thank you,

573
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: go back, go what you gotta look at two things

574
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: in this show. One, Chris Hall has the best hair

575
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: in the company. Yeah, and to Jesus like the look

576
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: that Nate just gave me whenever I asked that question. Okay,

577
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, and Nate, it's just amazing how you sounded

578
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Speaker 1: like a fan. Then Okay, we just finished the draft. Okay,

579
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Speaker 1: but when we were about the next draft, Hey, trying

580
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: to bring the fast perspective shows about But nah, now

581
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: this is the big question and I never believed this.

582
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Speaker 1: And Chris, you can say whatever you need, what you

583
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Speaker 1: need versus what's the best player? You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

584
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Speaker 1: I mean yes, it is explain that there's a different

585
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: philosophy all over the place depending on who you talk to. Okay,

586
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: what we try and what we try and do is

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Speaker 1: you know the point that like a little closer to you,

588
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Speaker 1: you hear that you don't want to draft for for need, right, Well,

589
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Speaker 1: the thought is you never want to pass up a

590
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Speaker 1: more talented player to take a lesser player who fills

591
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Speaker 1: a need. So what you try and do is you

592
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Speaker 1: might have a guy that's a little bit rated higher

593
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Speaker 1: than the guy that you take, but you've already got

594
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Speaker 1: three running backs on your roster. So if the talent

595
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: is close to being even, then you lean towards your need.

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Speaker 1: But if you have a spot where a guy is

597
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Speaker 1: just clearly better, and you may already be stocked up

598
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: at that spot, man, that's hard to pass those guys up.

599
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Speaker 1: And that's sometimes where you get into discussions in the

600
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Speaker 1: draft room draft process between your coaching staff and ownership

601
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: and your scouting scouting group, because look, we're all trying

602
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: to make the team better, right and better for the

603
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: long term. Well sometimes the coaches or maybe in it

604
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: for the shorter term to get better now, so they're

605
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: gonna want something that fills a gap right now. So

606
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Speaker 1: that's the tricky thing you have to try and balance

607
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: is helping now but building for the future as well.

608
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: So is it draft for need, draft the best player? Yes, yeah, yeah,

609
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Speaker 1: I agree. I'm with you. You kind of got to

610
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Speaker 1: feel it as it goes and see what's available at

611
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: the time. Because when when you go into a draft

612
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Speaker 1: room and and me and you, like I said, I

613
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: know you can't divulge what y'all thinking. How but for me,

614
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Speaker 1: you know, I think he wanted to receive what he

615
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: wont a linebacker. This guy won't me. I think our

616
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: team is at a position where we need to draft,

617
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Speaker 1: what's a what's what's available that's good enough to get

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Speaker 1: on the field at this point. And now that's just

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Speaker 1: my feeling, And give us your feelings, uh, Shannon, honestly

620
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Speaker 1: on this team after this year, you know, I don't

621
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Speaker 1: think there's a position that if a top guy is

622
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Speaker 1: there when you get there, that you could pass on

623
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Speaker 1: him because I think there's so many questions and so

624
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: many you know, injuries that you don't know the future of.

625
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: And you know, even with Zeke the off field problems,

626
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Speaker 1: you know, you don't know you need somebody there like

627
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Speaker 1: an Alfred Mars or if that guy's in the draft.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't even with Dak like you know,

629
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Speaker 1: year one and year two were two different stories. I

630
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: doubt I would take a quarterback or a running back,

631
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Speaker 1: but I'm saying that wouldn't be completely no way. There's

632
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: no way we're not taking one of those guys. So

633
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a position on this team that

634
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: you don't take. I kind of lean towards linebacker because

635
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: of Shawn Lee's health, so you don't know what's happening

636
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: with Hitchens, linebacker, receiver held, the secondary so young, and

637
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: that you can never have too many secondary guys. Offensive line,

638
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: we're really good at draft an offensive lineman in the

639
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: first round. I wouldn't be opposed to grabbing one of

640
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: those guys. Well you think, Kurt, Yeah, I'm always for

641
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: best available at the especially in the first round. You

642
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: need a guy that's gonna help the team immediately. Now,

643
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: don't you have basically the same thought when you talking

644
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: to the coaches too, no question and so so I

645
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: know you and will be sitting out that light. Okay,

646
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: So how do y'all stop prioritizing. I mean, everybody over

647
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: there wants the best guy at their position. As a coach,

648
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: you want to you want to coach great a talent

649
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: a one. So even though we've got Jason Whitton and

650
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Fame player, you can't tell me

651
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that our tight end coach isn't in their lobbying to

652
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: get another guy yeah there, or that our old line

653
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: coach isn't up there saying yeah, I know, we got

654
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: three number ones in here and another one and you

655
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: know we could use one more guy because we can

656
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: still get better here at this spot, right And the

657
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: same thing, I mean, you're you're suggestion a linebacker, Yeah

658
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: we got we got questions. They are a bunch of

659
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: good players there, but they've each got a question mark

660
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: with him at some point. The secondary super young. These

661
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: guys are just getting their feet with this year. Just

662
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: I mean, we got some confidence in them the last

663
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but are they going to back and

664
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: do the same thing? You know, you mentioned Zeke and

665
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: his issues that he has. I mean, are we comfortable

666
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 1: going forward with that? If Alfred Leaves is rod Smith

667
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: the guy that's next up and we feel good about

668
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 1: Those are the questions that we've got to internally debate

669
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: as we go forward and we see who comes down

670
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: the pipe. I mean, yeah, if say Quon Barkley is

671
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: there at number nineteen, I think you will see that.

672
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, those are the what ifs. But you know,

673
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: do you take Aaron Rodgers if he keeps falling down

674
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: to you somebody eventually didn't turned out pretty good for him? Yeah,

675
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: and they didn't need a quarterback at the time. Yeah,

676
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: they have a dumb question, or you don't mind. It

677
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: ain't dumb. I don't know. It's coming from Kurt. You

678
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: never know. He scouting the scouting department as a whole.

679
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: Obviously you're on the amateur side. Does the scouting department

680
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: assist or help or do anything with the kind of

681
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: grading out and evaluation of this year's players that are

682
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: on the team now? Yeah, yeah, we do um and

683
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: our pro guys handle more of that than than the

684
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: college groups that I work primarily with. And we have

685
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: an end of the season evaluation. The coaches do a

686
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: separate end of the season evaluation, and you know, so

687
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: there's two different looks at it. So you know, mister Jones,

688
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: he gets two different opinions on it, and sometimes they're

689
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: a little bit different. You know, they have a lot

690
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: more information about exactly what was going on during the

691
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: season during a game. I mean, you don't know sometimes

692
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: when you're looking at a game Monday morning, you don't

693
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: know if the quarterback checked off something, or if whose

694
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: fault it was not picking up a blitz or did

695
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: the receiver run the right route. You know, we don't

696
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: necessarily know all these things until you ask. So you

697
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: could be looking at at at a TV copy of

698
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: something at home or at the game and it looks

699
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: like somebody busted when it was actually somebody else. You

700
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: can see from a technique standpoint of a guy's getting

701
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: better or sure of troubles, or maybe I think you

702
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: can definitely, but it's it's sometimes it's the mental aspect

703
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: of it, which is every bit as important as the

704
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: physical aspect that you're not one hundred percent sure about

705
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 1: until you ask the question and find that out, and

706
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: you know that's and see that and you've guys hear

707
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: me said all the time, what you're thinking if you

708
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: if you, if you are not confident and you're not

709
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: mentally strong, it'll break you. Yeah, man, your ability it's amazing.

710
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: I've seen guys that you know, a world class, but

711
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: they lose as soon as they lose that confidence. Man,

712
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: You're like, it's this the same guy, because it's all

713
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: about confidence success being repeated over and over. You may

714
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: not be talked about grading out positions. You I don't

715
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: know how much you can tell us or whatever, but

716
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: who's somebody if you can tell us that the fans

717
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: may think they had a so so year or not

718
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: that great of a year that actually graded out higher

719
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: than what you think the fans would expect. Uh, Because

720
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: like you said, us us as fans watching the game,

721
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: you don't know who busted the coverage. You just see

722
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: the closest guy chasing him down the field. You don't

723
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: know who this is this and I think there's our

724
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: fans have a misconception of some of the players on

725
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: our team that they're not that great. That really when

726
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: you grows great him out there, they're right up. I'll

727
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: tell you what, man, I bet you Heath grade over

728
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: the year that was that was the one name I

729
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: was probably Yeah, he get Gray went from oh my god,

730
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 1: can I'm real man? See, But Jeff's a great example

731
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: of what you just said. Yeah, the opposite way, his confidence,

732
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: I think continued to grow. Oh yeah, I played more.

733
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: And there were a few of those mistackles that people

734
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: were down on over the last couple of years because

735
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Jeff would splatter you right where he'd miss you sometimes.

736
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: But this year it was pretty darn consistent. And you know,

737
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: he led our team in interceptions. It was just with three,

738
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: but he's still you got to give him credit for that.

739
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: He guy made some incredible plays. I mean the play

740
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: in Oakland, you know, he said they won the game

741
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: for us, essentially knocking the ball out of David cart

742
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: at the goal line. So, I mean, I think that

743
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: there's some hidden things that Jeff brings to the game

744
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: that maybe go unnoticed sometimes to where he probably deserves

745
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: a little more credit than he can't get from the

746
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: average fan. And I'm gonna tell you who else really

747
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: really did a nice job that didn't look good at

748
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: first two or three was Cavan Frasier. Yeah, yeah, thing Cavan.

749
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: I would argue might be one of the best special

750
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: teams players in the league. Derek Eagleton, if you're listening,

751
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: mark that, Douglas, tell me what time that was, because

752
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with Derek about this and he

753
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: almost called me crazy. You gotta understand that he's that

754
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: he's coming from a University of Texas perspective the last

755
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: few years, so they are not thinking clearly. They all

756
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: you ever seen the movie, Uh Damien, you have seen

757
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 1: the movie Matt Damian playing in the movie like it's

758
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: a Chinese movie. I can't think of the Great Wall,

759
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: the Great Wall, wait this way, this lady animal, hollow

760
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: and every all these thousands of things, all of these

761
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm seeing all of these thousands of things. Chris would

762
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 1: respond to her, You're the Great Wall. I have to

763
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: go back and watch and to go up to the

764
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: point where they what is Queen is just ho every

765
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: all these things understood what she wanted. So what does

766
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: that say about it? That's the universe of Texas right now.

767
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: When anybody Hollows is going, they just they mind his muddle.

768
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: And if she don't on holiday, they just continue to fight.

769
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: And that's that's why I don't pay attention to Texas. Yeah,

770
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: I know I do weird stuff like that. How long

771
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: have I known you? A while? So when you're talking

772
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: about the film and how what you see on what

773
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: people see on film and what really went on in

774
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: the game, uh, and how that applies to NFL evaluation,

775
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: how does that apply to the draft and what you

776
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: think you're seeing a college player do and then you

777
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: go and you talk to his coach and maybe you

778
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: find out he's either smarter or not as smart is

779
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: maybe you thought based on the tape, right, That's that's

780
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: a great question. And that's one of the hardest things

781
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: for us to do is to marry the player's mental

782
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: to his physical ability. And you have to ask a

783
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: lot of questions and you got to spend a lot

784
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: of time. And the best way to do that is

785
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: to sit down with the player and watch tape with

786
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: them when you get that opportunity, and have them explain

787
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: what's going on here, or you have them draw up

788
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: a play. I mean, you might only have fifteen minutes

789
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: to interview a guy and you don't have videos, so

790
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: you put a piece of paper to put your favorite

791
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: play down on paper. For me, here some guys have

792
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: a hard time drawing a formation, believe it or not. Wow. Uh.

793
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: And other guys, man, they can give you everything, bage coverage,

794
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: his offense, defense. I mean, it's it's surprising when when

795
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: we put some guys to the test like that that

796
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: you know they struggle drawing a front sometimes. How often

797
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: do you get to you always hear at the scouting

798
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: come by that happens, right, how how many other times?

799
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Well at these bowl game, these all star games that

800
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: will go to and in a lot of cases in

801
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: these settings, it's it's nothing but a speed dating deal.

802
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: You're fifteen minutes and you're trying to you're trying to

803
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: get this guy to open up to you in fifteen minutes.

804
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's tough. So you try and ask a

805
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: few key questions that you ask of everybody. So so

806
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: maybe you're getting the same type of answer and you

807
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: can gauge those against each other. But at the end

808
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: of the day, you really don't know until you know,

809
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: we're allowed to bring thirty players here to Dallas, and

810
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: that's you know, and everybody gets honest because oh well

811
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, look who they're bringing in. They're gonna draft

812
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: those guys. Well, yeah, you know what we are because

813
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: we really get to know those guys and we feel

814
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: comfortable with them and we feel like they're gonna fit

815
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: and help us get better. So the time, the more

816
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: time you can spend with a guy, and that includes

817
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: sending coaches, sending scouts out to see these guys in

818
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: the spring, work out with them, take them to dinner.

819
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: How do they treat the waitress? Yeah, you know, I

820
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: do they hold the door for the kids coming in

821
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: or out. You know, little things like that tell you

822
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: about a person, and I think that's important. And I

823
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: also really feel like you've got to be really smart

824
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 1: to play the game of football these days, to stay

825
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: on the field for three downs and be a difference maker,

826
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: you've got to study it and you've got to know

827
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: the game, what your team is doing, and as much

828
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 1: as you can about what the other team is doing.

829
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: So I want smart guys. I don't want guys that

830
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to worry about. Are they doing

831
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: the extra work, are they putting the film work in,

832
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: Do they know the playbook? Because if they don't, and

833
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: they bust when they you know what, they're not going

834
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: back in. Especially as a young guy, they got to

835
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: earn their way back in there if they make mistakes

836
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: like that. So you can't see the talent if they

837
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: can't do what they're being asked to do. So, so

838
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: what you're saying is you spent on the college side, y'all.

839
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: Y'all build of relationships with other colleges, with all the colleges,

840
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: going back to some of the high school coaches, trying

841
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: to build good relationships where they can give you an

842
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: honest opinion on their kids, like they made love the kid,

843
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: but they're not gonna lie to you. You hope they don't. Yeah,

844
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: And that's where the relationships are so important, you know.

845
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: And I've seen both sides of it. Guys that you

846
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: thought were getting good information turned out to be pulling

847
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: your leg to protect the kids. You know what I've

848
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: one of the realizations I've come to in the last year,

849
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: so is football is really professional. Football is really one

850
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: of the few sports that you really don't get to

851
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: know the kid in his amateur development, right. I mean,

852
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: you think about some of the access that other scouts

853
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: and other sports have to players, I mean hockey and

854
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: soccer and base basketball, basketball, But you're around these kids

855
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: when they're in high school a lot of them in

856
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: a lot of these sports, even basketball now, and you're

857
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: able to have more access to watch them practice more often,

858
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: they have a longer season, they have more opportunities for

859
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: guys to get to know them. So if a junior

860
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: just declares here in two weeks that he's coming out,

861
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: and he comes straight out of the woods and we

862
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: don't know anything about him, We've got three months to

863
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: get to know that guy, that's it. And you might

864
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: get a chance to interview him for fifteen minutes here,

865
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes there, and if you make a big enough

866
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: splash to get your attention. So it can be tricky

867
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: at getting to know the person. Wow, that's what makes

868
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: it hard for us sometimes. So I'm supposed to add

869
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: Chris to the open now, right, Yeah, sure to the

870
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: show open. Just throw him on in there. Yeah, he's

871
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: gonna be on every every Monday at eleven o'clock at

872
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: some point, calling in from the Senior Bowl. He won't

873
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: be busy. Yeah, well, I'll be at the Senior Bowl myself.

874
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: I'll be in Mexico. Hey, so we need a bowl

875
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: game in Mexico. You used to have one in Hawaii. Yeah,

876
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: that used to be nice too. Let's uh, I don't

877
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,160
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878
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879
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: let's take a quick our final break, and then when

880
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: we come back, Chris Hall is going to tell you

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905
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914
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Speaker 1: got the passion and the heart to do your part

916
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: supporting the boys no matter what. That's why when the

917
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Speaker 1: game's on the line, you're on your feet, whether you're

918
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Speaker 1: at home or in the stands. Actually, you're more than

919
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Speaker 1: a fan. You are a member of Cowboys Nation. And

920
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Speaker 1: so is AT and T doing their part to keep

921
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: you connected to America's team all season law At and

922
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Speaker 1: T is a proud member of Cowboys Nation. Back to

923
00:49:53,719 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: hang it with the Boys, back the Star in Frisco, Texas,

924
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: where it is chili outside. A weird day here. It

925
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: has been a very weird day we had why is

926
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: that curtain? Now? Hold on? Be a weird They had

927
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: a fire alarm. Okay, all had to go outside. This

928
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: doesn't happen when it's seventy outside, right, right? Yeah? And

929
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: then the power went out, right right, and then the

930
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: fire alarm went off again. Okay, I don't think we're

931
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: meant to be here today. And when the power goes out,

932
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: if you've got card access to your room, did you

933
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: work in? You no longer can get in? Oh man?

934
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: So did you just stand out in the hall? Douglas thereabouts,

935
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: I went back to my desk and watch YouTube. So

936
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: that broke you away from the film, right, Chris? Yeah?

937
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: So Chris, who are we taking with the number one

938
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: pick or the Nate just told you who take the

939
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: best player of val He said that off air. Though

940
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna give me a name. I

941
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: thought you knew who it was gonna be. It. Hey,

942
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: I'd love to give you a name. I don't. All

943
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: the guys are in the draft. Yeah, he's got twelve

944
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:06,839
Speaker 1: hundred guys, oh eight, A bunch of juniors who haven't

945
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: decided if they're coming or not. What does What is

946
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: their deadline date? Juniors? Their date is to the fifteenth

947
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: or the eighteenth of January, I forget which. And then

948
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: they get a couple of days to change their mind

949
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: if they want to, and then it becomes final a

950
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: couple of days after that, and illegal send us out

951
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: a memo that has all the names that have been

952
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: given what they call special eligibility to come in to

953
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: the draft this year. So will these these juniors are

954
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: not allowed at the Senior Bowls and stuff like that. Well,

955
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: the last couple of years they tweaked it a little bit. So, um,

956
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: if a junior has graduated and is done. Yes, they will,

957
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: and he's already announced it. He's got his degree. They'll

958
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: they'll allow him to play. Now they've only let one

959
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: or two guys do this each year. Uh. Courtland Sutton

960
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: from SMU is going to play in the Senior Bowl

961
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: this year. He's still had another year eligibility, but he

962
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: graduated in December and so he's gonna be one of

963
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: the guys that gets to play in the game this year.

964
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: The quarterback from Wyoming was trying to get that done,

965
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: but he was like three credit short, so technicality, you know,

966
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: they won't let him play because he doesn't have his degree,

967
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: right wow, asked the important question. Yeah, what count you

968
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: got coming up? Black Label? Where are they coming next Saturday?

969
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 1: So you're a concert guy. Oh yeah, I didn't know that, man.

970
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: I did not know that. Man, he's a big rock guy.

971
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: That's Zach Wild's band, right, Yeah, Ozzie's all guitar player. Yeah,

972
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind going to see that. You didn't know

973
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: he was a big concert guy. So Kurt's a big

974
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: metal head. If you didn't know that like hardcore for real,

975
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I like hard rock. You don't

976
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: for Kurt, you would think it's hardcore like sweet? Yeah, man,

977
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: may Douglas get in on this. Now they going down

978
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: your role? Brother? Just want And if Coach Garrett tries

979
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: to get Chris to go to uh Bob Dylan springste

980
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: Springsteen concert with him or is that just a Laughenburg thing.

981
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: I think that's a loafenburg. That's a backup quarterback thing.

982
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: I think, what kind of music at the backups? I

983
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: love all music, I really do. And uh, but since

984
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: I've become a Christian, I have to kind of be

985
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: staying constant prayer when I hear stuff like Tupac and

986
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: challenges you challenged staying constant prayers. So here, but Chris,

987
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: that is great. You know, Chris has always been so

988
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: it's Chris here when you were here. From the beginning.

989
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: He's always been low key. I used to call him

990
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: Jesus and then I stopped doing that. Ain't Jesus? What's up?

991
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's going to concerts. I thank them Jesus.

992
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: But hey man, it's just k that amazes me. Brother,

993
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: So no one of you I need screaming guitars. Okay,

994
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: And what's the last concert you went to? Kurt? It's

995
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: probably Metallica at the stadium. I'm so so mad I

996
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: missed that. Oh it was good, so good. I didn't Joe,

997
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: was it good? Jog to Guns and Roses? Yes, I

998
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: did not. You know. We were actually a training camp

999
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: when that, I know. And I flew home that night

1000
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: because we had a day off. That day off, and

1001
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: it also happened to be my birthday, so I gave

1002
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: birthday present and flew out of Lax came back on

1003
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: the six am flight the next day and didn't miss it.

1004
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: I was so I was so pissed because and it

1005
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: was worth it wasn't really because they played here like

1006
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: three days before we came back, and then we came

1007
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: back and they played the Rose Bowl like three days

1008
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: after we flew back, and I missed both of them.

1009
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about that show, the Colt opened

1010
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: up for him. Yeah, and in nineteen eighty seven they did.

1011
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: I saw Guns and Roses open for the Culture Ronco.

1012
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: Why remember that. I wasn't at the concert, but I

1013
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: remember that happened. And then they had to reverse who

1014
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: opened for who in about three months flipped it. And

1015
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: that was when the Colt was out on Electric and

1016
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: Guns album and just just broke. I think Electrics probably

1017
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: one of the best albums. I tell you what. I

1018
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: saw the Cult opened up for Marilyn Manson, I think

1019
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: two years ago, and I just went, I'm not a

1020
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson fan, but I like some of the opening

1021
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: acts and the guy for the lead singer for the

1022
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: Colt Man, he's a weird cat and he gets political

1023
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: on you and trips out and I was like, okay,

1024
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: as that was it all with a name like Colts Up.

1025
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: We gotta get got dark hair, tasty skin, and dark tattoos.

1026
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: But you know, music is good, man. You know. I

1027
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: tell people, you know, like I said, I do have

1028
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: to kind of back up with some of the music

1029
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: I used to listen to. But I can turn the

1030
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: radio on and it just don't matter how long as

1031
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: it eight ascid, kind of just real crazy like music

1032
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: is good. You know. It's kind of it's kind of

1033
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: hard for me because sometimes I'm listening, I'm kind of rocking.

1034
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: My wife's looking at them like baby, music is good.

1035
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. You know what I'm saying.

1036
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: It makes you move. Brother. If music, if music can't

1037
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: soothe you, you know, whether it's a hard Bruce Springs thing,

1038
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: or it's far enough. I say, big and small. That

1039
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: is not good music because it don't leave you anywhere.

1040
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm talking about my boy Biggie and all of them.

1041
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: You know what they were saying. But it's just uh,

1042
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, like for me it was Gap Band, it

1043
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: was Lina Richard, you know, Prince, if music can't take

1044
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: you somewhere like Luther for me, Whitney, if it can't

1045
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: take you somewhere, you know what I'm saying, a piece

1046
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: of mind. And see when I I don't know Foreigner's Journey.

1047
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't know when they're seeing it. But I can

1048
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: ask my wife. She knows all these groups. So baby,

1049
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: who is that that sounds good? Or that's Journey, that's Foreigner.

1050
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: I knew Springs thing because everybody know him for his

1051
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: raspy are everybody know him? Hugh and Lewis and the news.

1052
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: So I'm the old guy. I'm the old guy. That

1053
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 1: is new stuff y'all talking about that's been around a while.

1054
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 1: That's the guys, all the guys. You know what. I

1055
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: used to listen to Willing Nelson, the Brothers ed be like,

1056
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: hey man, we heard you can you imagine I got

1057
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: eight teams in my ride Willard Elson again, They're like, hey,

1058
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: the brothers might be going to do it. Bro, what's that?

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00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: That's Willing Nelson? Man? What if you don't get out

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: of it? But music to me has no race. Obviously

1061
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: pretty simple for me. Music has no race, you know.

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00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: And and I've always I've always lived by that creed

1063
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: and now it allows me to open up to everything.

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00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: I love it me too. Unless I go to Mexico

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00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: to listen to something, I ain't going to Mexico listening

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00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: what concert is down in Old Mexico. So every year

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm not even a Luke Brian fan, but it goes

1068
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: every year. I go every year because of the experience.

1069
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: It's a it's a four day experience. Yeah, it's a

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: four day country concert on the beach, and it's on

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00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: the property of the hotel. So like you walk out

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00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: of your room and literally walk down the beach and

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00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: I have a big stage set up in the ocean's

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00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: right there. And it's evident if it is on the beach,

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00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: I think the ocean gonna be somewhere. It could be

1076
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: it could be on a lake. Lake Louisville, they got

1077
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: beaches and uh so it's all inclusive, so you can

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00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: get off literally get off the plane. They they're holding

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00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: up a sign that says crash my playa And you

1080
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: get on the bus and there's coolers full of beer

1081
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: on the bus. They take your bags and you don't

1082
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: pay for anything the rest of the time that you're there.

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00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: So I go, oh, so that's the kicker. Yeah, thanks Chris.

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: It's all inclusive. So this year it's Luke Brian plays

1085
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Friday and Sunday. Blake Shelton is Saturday, and then Sam

1086
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: Hunt is Thursday, and then there's some other opening act.

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00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: Who is Sam Hunt? He sings look him up. He's

1088
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of that hop country like Florida Georgia line. I'm

1089
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: not a huge fan of his, but he's got some

1090
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: catchy I didn't realize it was all on the hotel

1091
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: property that oh yeah, that gives you better odds of

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: making it back to your Oh yeah, I've I've slept

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00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: on the beach before because I didn't make it back

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00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: to my hotel. I got confused and couldn't figure out

1095
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: where to go. So I was just like, oh, chair

1096
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: on the beach and not the water's right, So he's

1097
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: so Chris went back to football. Wow, So, so how

1098
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: many years has this been for you? You married? You?

1099
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: I share some of the personal that's Nate's go to

1100
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: question any player or anybody that's on this show. Nates,

1101
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: so what you want? What's your woman's situation? And you

1102
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: see some of the players go, well, I've been married

1103
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys for twenty ye my wife, my wife

1104
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: for twenty two years. Many kids. I have two daughters.

1105
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: I have fifteen year old girl in a seventeen year

1106
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: old sweet man. We've been exploring where we're going to

1107
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: college next year or so, what's what's she likeing? Uh? Well,

1108
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: right now, she's been accepted at Oklahoma, Baylor, and Texas

1109
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: A and M. You're a Mustang, Yes, I'm a Mustang.

1110
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: But but she's waiting on Rice Duke and Vanderbilt. Wow. Wow. Yeah,

1111
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: she's a pretty amazing kid, smart kid, so want to

1112
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: be if she didn't need her, if she stays in

1113
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: the tay A sect, the state of Texas, Texas and M.

1114
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: Because Texas and M in Texas they take care of

1115
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: their own exactly. That's serious. I'm coming around to the whole. Yeah,

1116
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: they take care of their own. I knew a veternarian

1117
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: texasan m uh. It's a cult down as soon as

1118
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: as soon as I mentioned that, you know any of

1119
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: his buddies and I'm like, man, I know this guy.

1120
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: Take they know each other. I mean they are effected,

1121
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: and they will they will look out for yeah, stupid

1122
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: rings and will be jealous. Man, be jealous. Bathrooms with

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01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: A and M fuzzy stuff. My my my best one

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01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 1: of my best friends, his daughter tends Texas in m

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01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: and her boyfriend is a devas a van for Texas

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01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: and M and uh. And the people in the neighborhood

1127
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: found out that my best friend's daughter was going to

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Speaker 1: Texas and m is She's like, I ain't know. I

1129
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: had these many neighbors showing up well, Chris, last last question.

1130
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Speaker 1: With the draft coming up, that's like your super Bowl, right,

1131
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: that's what you prepare all year for. Definitely, is it

1132
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 1: is it still? Is it fun for you or is

1133
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: it so stressful that you just don't get to enjoy it. No,

1134
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's obviously stressful because there's so many moving parts.

1135
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about actual draft draft weekend. Draft day.

1136
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: Draft Day is usually a blast. Because you've spent a

1137
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: whole year putting this whole thing together and you just

1138
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: kind of watch it unfold until it gets down to

1139
01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: your wheelhouse when you can start affecting things. And you know,

1140
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: we've had an incredible history of moving all over the

1141
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: draft board and those are some of the most amazing

1142
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: experiences to watch how that all comes together and watch

1143
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: the Joneses work the phones and figure out is this

1144
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: a good deal for us? And we need more here?

1145
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if we do this, we might miss

1146
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: out on this player, you know. Man, that's that's exciting.

1147
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're a little barry eyed by the time

1148
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: you get to the finish line. But man, there's always

1149
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot of juice left when you when you cross

1150
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: over there and get to get to draft day for sure. Man,

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01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the

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01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: show with us. I got one more question. I got

1153
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: one question. So when y'all, when y'all get through it

1154
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: the draft, how long is it before you get in

1155
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: draft training camp? Training camp? Did you not pay attention

1156
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: to anybody? Chris had to say today training camp, I

1157
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 1: don't like you anymore. I feel glad I'm going to

1158
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: Mexico in two weeks. Oh congratulations by the way to

1159
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,439
Speaker 1: Everson Walls and yes Teryl Owens for being uh too

1160
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: Classicus eighteen Hall of Fame and Ductee finalists. Chris was

1161
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 1: talking about Jeff Heath's three interceptions. I mean everything, those

1162
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: those were double digits. Like every season that was that

1163
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: was a different deal back then. Yes, it was down

1164
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: eleven twelve intercepts. That that's some crazy numbers from a

1165
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: guy who running four to six. Yeah, yeah, wow. He

1166
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: also had two tall Jones covering the quarterback's eyes so

1167
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't see where it was throwing. I wanted to

1168
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: fast guy either button Hey, who cares? Still got three

1169
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: rings though? There you go. Well Chris, thanks a lot, man. Well,

1170
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: hopefully we'll get you on a lot during the off

1171
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: season once things slowed down a little bit for you.

1172
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: All Right, all right, Kurt, thank you for showing up. Nate,

1173
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it over. We're over. I think we're

1174
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: going to three third. I'm sorry, sitting back down. We

1175
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: gotta sign off. Thanks Nate, Thanks Douglas, We're going to

1176
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: three thirty. Man, I'm like, whoa, thanks Douglas, what you do?

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01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: Good to see Chris thanks again, and well you guys.

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Speaker 1: Monday at eleven o'clock, I'll hanging with a boys. This

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